1/5/2026 - Automating Icky Project Organization in Notion Using the AI Assistant

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1. 0:00Explain why we're not getting any comments. [laughter] [music]
2. 0:15[music]
3. 0:33>> [music] >> Welcome, welcome. If you just joined on YouTube or LinkedIn or Twitter, go ahead and comment. I forgot to go live earlier
4. 0:48because, you know, professional I did a thing scared today. I didn't get a yes, but I didn't get a no.
5. 1:01Um, even if you got a yes or even if you got a no that you did a thing scared is the actual definition of courage.
6. 1:13Congratulations. That's a big deal. Actually, one of the things that I was thinking about doing tonight is going
7. 1:19back to notion on my own. I know we probably might have Vicki in here, so I probably have I probably have uh
8. 1:28[laughter] guard rails that if I get completely stuck, I can ask someone. But my my challenge with notion right now isn't
9. 1:38how to set it up. It's set it's set up enough that I can start doing stuff with it. My challenge with notion is it's at the part where
10. 1:48I actually have to return to it and put in the the icky work. So, it's not quite taking action in the face of fear like
11. 1:58you did, Mimi, but it is resisting doing something fun and sexy and choosing to do something that I actually need to get done. And and
12. 2:11here's why I need to get it done. Now that you're live, Vicki is here. Awesome. Um, I've got enough projects and I've got enough
13. 2:27I've got enough shift in what I want to do in 2026 where I want to be more intentional. I want to make some [ __ ] money. I want to um
14. 2:44not be so willing to give into the fear, right? I want to have a a good courageous year, a good a good solid make it happen year. And
15. 2:57[music] and part of that requires doing the doing the ick work, doing the work that doesn't feel as sexy. [music]
16. 3:10JJ, same. Same, Kyle. Same. Yeah. It's it's it's like I mean, [laughter] you know, you know, starting out the new
17. 3:17year with like, okay, we're going to kick ass in 2026. It's like great. And then the next day shows up, you're like,
18. 3:23"Okay, what what are we gonna do now? What are we?" So, you're with me, right? I'm just all on my own still. Yeah, man. If you're
19. 3:36going to do this [ __ ] you actually have to do the [ __ ] In my case, my big epiphany was I have a lifetime of
20. 3:49[music] I'm really good at starting projects and then I and I think of them like cars. Like I design and build a car like I'm good
21. 4:00and then I get out of the driver's seat and I get in the back seat [laughter] and I don't drive it. So, this year is going to be about
22. 4:09finding ways to be in the driver's seat. Being in the driver's seat, [music] really owning what that means. Sometimes that means taking
23. 4:21responsibility for [ __ ] you didn't do. Sometimes that means not relying on other people to make decisions that you know are yours to
24. 4:30make. Can you drive the black bar back on? I could. And I could also flip cameras. Um, let me see.
25. 4:44[singing] There we go. That's better for you tick tockers, right? That's good. [music] [music]
26. 5:01Okay, hang on a sec. Hang on, people. There's There's schmutz to be smooched. Schmooched. [laughter] All right. How's that? Is that better?
27. 5:13Uhoh. What have I done? What have I done? Yeah, that's better. Okay. Beautiful. Where is he going? Just going to to wipe the pav.
28. 5:29I too hope I can earn a bit of money with AI. You can make money with >> I'm okay with just 10 million US [laughter]
29. 5:41per hour to start. Yeah, 10 million 10 million US should get you through the weekend. [music] Um, I actually before I dive in and do
30. 5:56my distasteful work, I I do want to share something with you. I made a a video today on Tik Tok and I also posted
31. 6:02it on LinkedIn [music] and then I went to boost it on LinkedIn and I actually think it's important enough that it's
32. 6:08worth sharing more widely and uh LinkedIn rejected it because I say the F word in it. [music] [music and singing]
33. 6:22Um, but I want to talk about that and then I'm going to dive into the the work I have to do on notion actually
34. 6:32doesn't have anything to do with notion but but I'll tell you what it's going to be so you can prepare to take a nap now. [laughter]
35. 6:43Okay. So Vicki helped me set up. I've got these things called I forget what they're called and what I called them,
36. 6:49but like large project groupings and then I have projects underneath those. Like Kyle writing might be a a group
37. 6:57project and then Sydney might be a project underneath that and a book might be a project underneath that. And so I've got I've got a set of
38. 7:07folders on my hard drive that follow a hierarchy. And I want to make sure that my notion folders follow the same
39. 7:15hierarchy so that there's some consistency between them so it's not all [ __ ] confusing. Um, and while that might sound simple to
40. 7:24some of you, the thought of that to me is one of those things just like you know grinding I don't know sand into a wound. It's
41. 7:34just like it's just very distasteful. [music] And so it's just going to be me doing that. Now, what I am likely going to discover
42. 7:42is that it's less of a big deal than I make it out to be, which one of my experience in experiences in life is
43. 7:53the anticipation is always always way more intense than the reality. [music] [music] Kyle, that's tantamount to brain
44. 8:08rewiring. Yeah. >> [music] >> And and listen, I get I'm here's what I'm not doing. What I'm not doing is I'm
45. 8:15not trying to turn myself into a project manager, right? But what I am trying to do is say that as part of my daily practice in
46. 8:28professionalizing my work in AI, I think one of the one of the downsides of AI is that it it it so easily allows
47. 8:42you to start new [ __ ] And then if you don't have a if you don't have a decent place to put that [ __ ] where you can go find it again,
48. 8:54then it's just chaos. Then it's just noise and madness. Um, and so this is, you know, if I had not
49. 9:04witnessed Cindy [ __ ] get her get her act together on this and people like Vicki that are figuring this stuff out, um,
50. 9:11who also have, you know, similar neurospicy, um, elements That's [laughter] [music]
51. 9:30[music] [music] [music]
52. 9:47>> [music] [music] >> I truly believe that organizing content for others will be a future job. That's actually not a bad idea, Kelly. I I do
53. 10:06not disagree with you. Now, what I would say is that AI AI is going to get good enough that you may not need to organize stuff,
54. 10:20but I think that's ultimately a pipe dream because I don't know. I don't know, man. That's a fascinating one.
55. 10:35Maybe it's not even so much that AI can't organize it. It's that you hire someone to just help you think about how you
56. 10:44want to organize things. I've thought about this for a while that that the idea of hierarchical folder structures.
57. 10:55Like it makes sense when we as humans have to dig through stuff, but it it stops making sense when the hierarchy
58. 11:02gets so complicated that our brains can't handle it. >> [sighs and gasps] >> Well, with the exception of the Dewey
59. 11:12decimal system, [laughter] but you know, there's people in there whose job it is to just organize [ __ ] [laughter]
60. 11:20But if you have a tool that that can find anything and knows everything about you, do we need to organize stuff? Right
61. 11:27now, we do. So, right now, I'm going to learn [ __ ] Notion. I'm going to get it together. I'm going to learn notion.
62. 11:32So, that's what we're going to do tonight. All right. I predicted prompt movies two years ago because I wanted to watch Die Hard [laughter]
63. 11:41in Lego. [music] Is this [music] place I can rest my
64. 11:56forehead [music] to gather [singing] my thoughts in sweet silence? And is this place where the [singing and music] feelings on day
65. 12:14from an over [singing and music] closure to violence. This is the place I can slowly [singing] face. The only one I truly can know. [music]
66. 12:26These are tears from a long time ago. [singing] Got these [music] tears from a long time ago. I [singing] need to cry 30 years or
67. 12:37[music] so. These are tears from a long time. [music] Go. [music]
68. 12:52[music] Okay, [clears throat] let's get going. So, one one exciting uh one exciting moment. No, one exciting thing for me personally
69. 13:05is um I saved up some shekels and and I got myself a new gaming PC so that I could do sim racing again. Don't worry,
70. 13:16I'm not going back to sim racing five nights a week instead of this cuz this replaced my sim racing, [laughter]
71. 13:22but I want to occasionally race again. And I had blown out I had blown out my my handme-down computer from one of my
72. 13:28boys. I got a uh I got a a uh a freebie graphics card from the internet and it blew up my computer. So So I haven't
73. 13:37been able to race. So I went to Costco and I got myself a pre-built PC. Um and it's got a decent graphics card in it.
74. 13:46So I'm going to be able to do local AI stuff. Um, I'm not going to get into open source deeply, but I do want to
75. 13:55understand what's possible and what's possible with like a basically a gaming PC. I still prefer the large screen of
76. 14:03YouTube, but I keep Tik Tok open so I can read the comments. Let's make a new platform. Neuros Oh, actually, you know what, Tom Nodler,
77. 14:14Mr. Forever hooked. That would be like an interesting Tik Tok tube. That would be an interesting vibe coding
78. 14:25app, wouldn't it? I do. Both of them have APIs. I think both of them do. I don't know if Tik Tok does. They may not. [clears throat] Okay.
79. 14:35I can't leave you. [laughter] I wish I could leave you. [gasps] Okay. I want to show you all something. Let me go share
80. 14:42my screen. Let me go share the screen. I'm gonna guess I'll do entire screen because I'm going to be bouncing around a bit. [clears throat]
81. 14:54Okay, let's see. Where did I respond? I did a reply. Did I do a reply? I think I did a reply.
82. 15:09AI models are killing critical thinking, are they? Okay, here's this graph from. Okay, so here's the comments. This is on
83. 15:23hacker news [clears throat] y combinator. [cough] Excuse me. Got a little little garb in in your old throat. All [clears throat] right.
84. 15:39Oh, Bunny Cat sent gifts on Tik Tok. Thank you very much, bunny cat. Oh, a hat and a mustache. Thank you so much.
85. 15:46That is lovely. I appreciate that. Oh, I am so excited to hear you say this. I started playing with Lama and
86. 15:55anti-gravity. Oh, that's cool. So, um, so here's what I did. I cheated. One of Thank you so much. I appreciate that,
87. 16:02buddy. Um, one of the things that I have told you all for years is get your ass in community, right? [laughter]
88. 16:13And and um, why do we do that? Well, maybe there's some day where you get yourself a gaming PC that has a graphics
89. 16:25card in it that can do AI. Well, what do you do next? You could just go ask chat GPT, but if you know someone like Brent
90. 16:33Peterson who's been building stuff on open source models for three years at a worldclass level, you could just drop
91. 16:41Brent a little DM on LinkedIn and go, "Hey buddy, [laughter] what's the what's the first thing I should install?"
92. 16:50And he just flipping answered it. He just flipping answered it. um it's LM Studio um is what he recommends. So LM Studio
93. 16:59basically gives you like um like a chat GPT like interface um and then you can basically just download different models and you just
94. 17:08basically switch between models and you use it just like Chad GPT. So that's LM Studio. And then the other thing he
95. 17:14recommended was Pinocchio, which if you don't know Pinocchio, it basically if you really want to set up like any decent
96. 17:25local AI model, you've got to set up like Python libraries and Python servers and dependencies and I don't know,
97. 17:33there's all this [ __ ] you got to set up. And that's exactly the reason why I don't play with open source is because I
98. 17:40could give two shits about that level of geekery. I just I don't care. I don't care. What Pinocchio does is it just
99. 17:48automates all of that. So So geeks that love that stuff, they put together a little framework of here's all the
100. 17:55dependencies you need, here's all the tools you need to install, and the Pinocchio just installs that [ __ ] for
101. 17:59you. Just goes and does it. Um, I I haven't actually played with anything on Pinocchio yet, but I those are the two
102. 18:07things I have. So, where's paid? I'm lost already. [laughter] Oh, man. Okay. I started with LM Studio.
103. 18:19Wait till you have the power to handle it. Um, fried my MacBook Air. [laughter] That's hilarious. That's great. Yeah,
104. 18:29MacBook Airs weren't weren't meant for a lot of high data throughput. Okay, so this is the response board to this uh this graph. Wait, where
105. 18:44[clears throat] is it? Is this it? Yeah, this graph. So, let me make this bigger. So, this graph is funny. I made a video about this this
106. 18:56morning about This is a graph of Substack and Vicky Baptist was like, "Uh, are you sure? Seems like Substack's doing pretty
107. 19:06good." I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, I I know what I'm doing, Vicki." And then I went and looked at the graph and it's not
108. 19:13Substack, it's Stack Overflow, but it had a stack in it. In my defense, it did have a stack in it. So, [laughter] I had
109. 19:20to I had to re re uh re-record my video that talked about Substack and delete it. Uh, Stub Substack's doing fine. This
110. 19:28is Stack Overflow. Um, here's what I wanted to share you share with you about this graph. So, uh, Stack Overflow
111. 19:37started in 2008 and, um, and this is their, um, graph of number of questions asked. I assume this is maybe quarterly.
112. 19:51It's this is two years across here. So we got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 19 20. Okay, so it's monthly.
113. 20:04So this is monthly um monthly messages. They peaked at around 210 27,000 monthly messages. Um they're down to 321.
114. 20:21So, it just fell off a cliff. Right here, right here is the end of 2022. So, that's the the beginning of chat GPT.
115. 20:34And what what Stack Overflow is is this is a site that where programmers ask each other questions like the question I
116. 20:42asked Brent Peterson. If it was a real substantive question, I would go to Stack Overflow and I would say, "Hey,
117. 20:47who knows how to handle a memory overflow error with this programming language and this kind of configuration?" And some nerd in there
118. 20:55would figure it out and tell me and everything would be happy. They're basically non-existent, [clears throat]
119. 21:03right? So, what strikes me about this graph, we've been talking a lot in here about making money. Well, not a lot. In the
120. 21:13past two weeks, we've talked the the the subject of making money >> has come up that we've all put in a lot
121. 21:21of time and and we've got some expertise and we've got some credibility and you know, we're sort of combining what
122. 21:31we used to do with our AI and we've got some some knowledge there and that's all good. This is an example of a community that
123. 21:40has very very high knowledge demands and the people asking other people for that knowledge is non-existent because
124. 21:54knowledge is now a commodity that we can ask a large language model for. And the implication of this is this is not just
125. 22:02going to be limited to programmers. This is going to be every kind of knowledge. If you're an expert um
126. 22:12business consultant, change management consultant, creative director, project manager, you've got 20, 30 years of
127. 22:21experience. Historically, how you would market yourself is say, I've got these skills. I've got this knowledge. And
128. 22:29historically, someone would go, I need a project manager. I need someone with expertise in project management.
129. 22:38And they would go look and they say, "Oh, they've got 20 years of experience here." Well, they're not asking those
130. 22:44questions anymore because if they need just basic knowledge about stuff, they can go ask chat GPT. If they want to
131. 22:51vibe code an app, they can go vibe code an app. It doesn't mean that that no one's going to hire other people. I think there's
132. 23:00going to be lots of hiring that goes on, but I think that how people get hired is going to change dramatically. So,
133. 23:08instead of me thinking, I've got to find someone who's good at Photoshop or who's good at, you know, has experience with
134. 23:14this, has these kind of skills, I'm going to hire them for very different reasons. I'm going to assume
135. 23:21that because of AI, if they're decently AI literate, they're going to be able to figure out the knowledge stuff, the
136. 23:28tactical stuff, the execution stuff, the expertise stuff. Well, how why am I going to hire them? Well, I'm going to hire them for their
137. 23:37soft skills, right? We there's always been this talk in the in the work world of soft skills and hard skills. Hard
138. 23:44skills are here's the [ __ ] I know how to do. Soft skills are like you're not an [ __ ] You've got integrity. You follow through
139. 23:52on things. You you give a [ __ ] about the end product and and as as Liz Miller Gersfeld says, the fidelity of the idea.
140. 24:02I'm not going to hire Liz because she's great at this tool or that tool or being able to edit things together. I'm going
141. 24:08to assume that she can figure that stuff out because of AI. I'm going to hire her because I know that she's personally
142. 24:15cares deeply about understanding what we're trying to accomplish and maintaining the fidel fidelity of that idea.
143. 24:23And so the the reason I'm sharing this is that, you know, I the the more I learn about what's coming and what's
144. 24:30here, the more important than ever it seems to be part of a community like this one, part of the AI salon
145. 24:40that getting your voice heard so that you so people understand that you're passionate and you're um that you have integrity and that you are
146. 24:53someone you'd want to hang out with is is really important stuff. The implications for education are huge.
147. 25:01That's why I'm positioning myself out of teaching and into AI for higher education. Yep, that makes sense to me.
148. 25:07Biology is the next big target in my humble opinion. Lots of companies looking for biology PhDs uh to check AI biology output. Oh yeah,
149. 25:15especially cell bio. Yeah. and and and that'll even be temporary because at you know at some point simulation world understanding
150. 25:24um world simulation is going to be so strong that the the AI is going to be able to run experiments virtually that
151. 25:31match what happens in the world. So you'll need less and less of those people verifying that science because
152. 25:37it'll be it'll be so so much farther down the down the road. And then when we have physical robots um maybe you even
153. 25:43have have labs that can do all that stuff. Um, but again, it goes back to we're going to hire people, but we're
154. 25:48going to hire them for different reasons. So, anyway, big thanks to AI Salon. Amazing and mind-blowing contributors. Yeah, exactly. AI Salon
155. 25:56helped me find someone in my field, archetypal architect. I'm hoping to make an impact. Great. Beautiful. Um, yeah.
156. 26:05So, so if you're not a member of the AI salon, join, go to community.thesalon.ai and join. Um, it doesn't cost anything.
157. 26:14you can join what's called the AI salon mastermind and that's where we're working on designing our daily practices
158. 26:21and I'm turning this channel into an expression of my daily practice, a place where I can practice um being more
159. 26:29intentional with AI and so I'm I'm really excited about that. Tomorrow night, um if you missed AI Festivus, we
160. 26:36have a really fun uh we have a really fun uh AI salon presents tomorrow night. So, from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. Mountain time, we are um
161. 26:50bringing back I think what did we end up with, Brandon? Like a dozen a dozen speakers from AI Festivus, something like that.
162. 27:00See? Yeah. Um we have like a dozen people including Kelly Bes and um well, Brandon will be there. [laughter]
163. 27:09Brandon will be bringing people up. a bunch of people that spoke at Festivus um are going to be just doing like a
164. 27:15little five minute recap of what they talked about at Festivus and then talking about what are their thoughts
165. 27:21for 2026, you know, what are their predictions, what are their thoughts. Um so it should be a really good really
166. 27:26good uh uh session and and just a lot of love in the room because the the presenters at Festivist did did really
167. 27:33great and people just love them. There's uh Joy Perie is gonna be there and Rick and and uh Erica Erica Hana um puke
168. 27:42rainbows. I don't know if she's here tonight, but she was here the other night giving me all sorts of [ __ ] [laughter]
169. 27:50Um I would be nowhere in my AI knowledge without this community. Thanks all. Yeah. And it's, you know, it's funny
170. 27:57like the people that the people that are active in the community, if I think about, you know, if I want to do something,
171. 28:05I know the people in the community who show up, right? And I know the people in the community who are curious and adventurous and
172. 28:14think, you know, intelligently and think critically. And so if it comes time at some point for me to hire people, I'm going to be
173. 28:22able to go, "Huh, who do I who do I know in here? I'm not going to go to [ __ ] LinkedIn. Who's got the right resume for
174. 28:28this set of skills that I want?" No. No. No. No. No. Okay. Are we allowed to post the link here? Which link? To the AI salon?
175. 28:45Yes. In fact, it's on screen right now. community.thesalon.ai here. Right here. Right here. Yeah. There you go.
176. 28:59Oh, beautiful. Oh, the link the link directly to the uh to the event tomorrow. Yeah, it's great. Awesome. So,
177. 29:06there's the if if you go to just the the basic AI Salon uh Mighty Network site, the community uh and click on the events
178. 29:14tab, you will also see it in there. All right, let's go. I like it. I like it a lot. Okay, I'm avoiding what I what I
179. 29:23said I'm going to do next. I don't want to do it. >> Hey, Kyle. >> Yes. >> Well, I'm gonna help you avoid it. Have
180. 29:31some weekend homework to grade. >> Oh, yeah. That's right. Okay, good. >> That was my way of trying to tell you, let's go to the salon.
181. 29:39>> That's right. >> Where am I going? Look what I look what I made. And and uh community feed. It's mostly in liquid. I mean,
182. 29:47>> okay, cool. For homework, Joy Party, I've decided. Wait, let's go. Let's go see where we've got. Okay, there's one.
183. 29:54Oh, this one's cool. Weaver. Weaver doing some cool stuff in here. All right, we'll go look at this in a second. Lori Blair,
184. 30:04Brandon Tid, silly song I made. What's this? Weaver. Another one. real triplets or be tip triplets. Mod 2100.
185. 30:20Weaver geeking out. That's gorgeous. Weaver's in the comment. It's a great site, by the way. Oh, the community site. Thank you. That's we we
186. 30:32have Andy Scarantino to thank for the organization of the salon right now. She uh she's really good at at figuring that
187. 30:41stuff out. Okay, this is a sunno song from Brandon. Silly song I made for the tidbits. Those are the those are the
188. 30:48Brandon Tid children, I'm guessing, [laughter] because he calls them the tidbits. All right, here we go. Oh, something went wrong.
189. 30:55Please try refreshing the page. All right, that's good. But I got to share this different. Hold, please. [clears throat]
190. 31:09All right. So, this is a chilling song for Brandon's kids. [music]
191. 31:25I'm swimming in the [singing] snow with my flippers on tight, wearing shades in the dark of the middle of night. I'm
192. 31:31eating hot soup from an ice cream cone. Calling everyone loudly on a silent phone. Nothing makes sense [singing] and
193. 31:39that's just fine. When everything backwards feels right on time, it's the opposite day. Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! [singing]
194. 31:52Up is down and night is day. Laugh it loud. Don't be afraid. [music] come and play. [singing] >> So, so Brandon, I have a question for
195. 32:07you. [laughter] So, so this is turning into your soundtrack for your car. Have you created songs that you've played so much
196. 32:16now that you can't stand them anymore? [laughter] >> We're getting there. But the kids will request actual like
197. 32:26they will be singing them here and um they will be like requesting them by name. So they want to hear like oh I
198. 32:34want to hear this song. This one's a bit campy. This is probably the campiest one that we created. >> It's catchy and it and we only created
199. 32:42it a week ago. So it's it's still in hot rotation. >> This one's still still nice and fresh. [laughter]
200. 32:48I like it. That's awesome. Uh, the one above mine though, um, I think it was from Silver Fox. >> This one?
201. 32:57>> Um, it absolutely amazing. So, much much better than than my AI. >> No, yours. Listen, yours yours is what
202. 33:05it reminded me of is like a a Wiggles song or like one of those things where you're like, you know, this this has
203. 33:11been fo foisted on my family. I should not have to deal with this. But you foisted it on yourself. So,
204. 33:17>> yes, we were the we were the foyers. >> That's awesome. All right, let's listen to Silver Foxes. By the way, if you're
205. 33:23wondering what we're doing, we we uh on Friday night date night, uh we give homework for the weekend. And so we just
206. 33:29said, "Hey, this weekend go make something nice and and post it into Look what I made." And so that's what people have done. Um okay, let me
207. 33:40go play this song. Do you feel feel me? Okay.
208. 33:57[music] [music] We used to be electric summer on our skin. Now every hour is a day. You feel [music] this paper thin.
209. 34:12[singing] Your voice is right there, but it's miles away. Like we're both [music] holding goodbye back every day. I scroll through a lance.
210. 34:25[singing] Trying [music] to prove we were real, not just accidents. Your eyes don't [singing] land the way they used to do.
211. 34:34And I hate how that hurts. [music] I hate me for it, too. Do you feel me when you don't reach for my hand? When your silence says stop
212. 34:47what your heart says I can't. We're sad and we're angry. We're breaking into you and my losing [singing and music] you.
213. 35:01Do you feel [music and singing] me? Do you feel me? We don't even fight like we mean it anymore. Just sharp little
214. 35:11[music] words. Then we stare at the floor. You say you're fine. [singing] Like it's easier to lie. I say whatever, but I'm dying inside.
215. 35:23You look past [music] me like I'm background [singing] noise. I miss the way you used to say my [music] name like [singing] a choice.
216. 35:32And I can't tell what's worse. You letting go or me still open your door. Do you feel me when you don't reach for
217. 35:45my hand? When your silence says stop, but your heart says I [music] can. We're sad and we're angry. We're breaking into you are my
218. 35:59and [music] I'm losing you. >> [music] >> That's so good. That's so good. It just I think 2026 is going to be a really
219. 36:14interesting year. Um it became pretty apparent in 2025 that there are absolutely AI haters with all of the music generation tools. Um but
220. 36:28you also had Warner Music and Universal Music. um quas buying basically suing their way into owning major stakes of
221. 36:38Sunno and Udo. Um, so the the music industry is invested in these technologies and there's a lot of musicians who've embraced AI as a
222. 36:50component in the chain of craft of making songs like taking old snippets or ideas from songs, turning them into
223. 36:57tracks and then splitting them into stems and sort of, you know, recreating them. But but absolutely using AI in in
224. 37:04the flow. Um, I think 2026 that's going to get way more way more apparent or or way more visible. Um, and I don't I
225. 37:13don't think it's going to be I I I hope not that it's going to be just, you know, years and years and years of
226. 37:21people screaming about it. Um, we'll see. We'll see. Joyy's video. The notion motion. I want to look at I want to look at Weaver's
227. 37:30graphics here. These are cool. The Ryman hypothesis. Oh, wait. I'm not sharing my screen. Navier Stokes PTE. So, these are like
228. 37:45math proofs, prime patterns or math concepts that are visualized with with cool light. This is super cool.
229. 37:58Iterative dynamics. Colets. Oh, yeah. The old iterative dynamics. You know, when I studied iterative dynamics in
230. 38:04acting school, uh we did a lot of uh collat uh theorems, we worked those out a lot. [laughter] Algebraic geometry. I you know, if I get
231. 38:17one more A in algebraic geometry, that would be one. All right, let's see. What's this one? Lock discoveries. I'm telling Pate.
232. 38:28Don't tell Pate that I'm making fun of math people. >> [laughter] >> Oh, the diiaphantine equations. Man, if
233. 38:38I had a nickel for every diaph equation I solved, I would still be broke. Prime patterns. Um, these are cool. These are beautiful.
234. 38:53Wow. Huh. I think this is just we when I see stuff like this. [laughter] I'll tell you I'll tell you how ignorant
235. 39:04I am with math. I see stuff like this and I'm like they just making this [ __ ] up. That this isn't real. No one does
236. 39:13this. The those movies where they write [ __ ] on the board, Matt Damon writing in the hallway, that's not real. [sighs]
237. 39:23That's a whole another life I get to explore. I'll I'll deal with that next time around. [laughter] Oh man. Let's see. Oh, Joy Joy Pertie is
238. 39:37going to be on a podcast tomorrow. Oh, with Ken Wisman. That's great. Cool. Beautiful. Yeah, if you can put that in
239. 39:44the uh put that in the uh thing. We're talking about the maths. Al although I listen I don't know if you know this um but I am a polymath.
240. 39:55I thought for years a polymath was someone like Weaver who knew about theorems and [ __ ] and you know numbers
241. 40:03to the power of numbers and letters and things. That's not what it is. A polymath is someone who's good at many things. Maths
242. 40:13means many things. Um, and uh, so I'm a polymath even though I'm horrible at math. [laughter] That makes me It's one of the one of the
243. 40:23things that made me happy in 2025 was I discovered that I'm a polymath. Um, what about these ads that claim to
244. 40:30learn AI in 15 minutes a day and become a millionaire? Oh, that's this. >> You can make money with
245. 40:38>> Okay, so Stephen, great question. Thank you for asking that question. Um, I just talked to I don't know if you're
246. 40:49here earlier. I was talking about on Stack Overflow the the the traffic on a site that was about asking experts their
247. 40:58opinions on how to solve problems has basically fallen off a cliff. It it no one's using it anymore. Like no one's
248. 41:05using it because everyone can ask chat GBT to answer their questions. They don't have to ask other other
249. 41:11programmers. Um, that's gonna that's going to happen for everything. So, so there's a thing that's going on is one
250. 41:19of the things that those sleazy marketing people and I really do think they are sleazy. 15 minutes a day practicing AI, you can bring money.
251. 41:31Why it's [ __ ] I mean, there's a couple of reasons it's [ __ ] One of the reasons it's [ __ ] is that everybody who
252. 41:40experiences AI for the first time, they realize, "Oh my god, it's remarkable. I can do all this stuff that I couldn't do
253. 41:49before." So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to tell people, I can now do all this stuff. And then they wonder why the
254. 41:56phone doesn't ring because everyone's having that exact same epiphany at the same time. Oh my god, I can do all this
255. 42:02stuff. I'm going to tell people I can do all this stuff. and everyone else is just going and asking Chat GPT for that
256. 42:08help. They're not asking other people. So that's one of the problems. The second problem >> you can make money with >> these [ __ ] is that
257. 42:23people don't pay you money because you can use AI. They don't pay you money because you can use Photoshop. They don't pay you money
258. 42:34because you know how to use a shovel. They pay you money because they need a hole and you happen to know how to use a
259. 42:44shovel and have one and are willing to do the work to dig them a hole, right? You hire someone because you need
260. 42:54pictures edited and refined and made more beautiful. And so the fact that they can use Photoshop is secondary to the problem
261. 43:03that they're solving. It's the exact same thing with AI. How you make money with AI is you take things that you're good at,
262. 43:12things that you're passionate about, things where you know there's a problem to be solved and then you can either tell them you're
263. 43:20using AI or not. It doesn't [ __ ] matter if you use AI. Like let's say that you're you're really passionate about rewriting um
264. 43:31restaurant menus that that you one of your passions in life is you think restaurant menus suck and they should be
265. 43:37entertaining and so you go in and you say I'm going to make your menu entertaining and and you know it's going
266. 43:44to raise your you know your ticket price by 15%. You know it's it's all about the desserts. We're going to we're going to
267. 43:51feature the desserts in this crazy way. and they're like, "Okay, I want to I want more money and yeah, our menu is
268. 43:58really boring. I I'd like to see what you do with it." Whether you go off and manually rewrite their menu or you use
269. 44:05chat GPT to do that, I think that's irrelevant to to the conversation. If you can do it well and fast and for less
270. 44:13money than they give you, then you've made money, right? So that's so my my philosophy on how you make money with chat GPT is how you make
271. 44:23money with a shovel. You find a problem and you solve it. And if you solve it in a way either cheaper, better or faster
272. 44:30than someone else can, then you'll make money. And with AI, the promise of AI is that you can solve it faster, better, and cheaper.
273. 44:42Right? It used to be you've got these three things. Pick any two, right? You can have it faster and better. Wait, you
274. 44:48can have it You can have it wait slower. I don't whatever it is. I forget [laughter] how I forget all the math of
275. 44:55that. But faster, better, cheaper. You can now do all three. Quality, price, and time. Yeah, exactly. Um, it used to
276. 45:03be that if you wanted it better, it would take longer. Now it can be better and fast and cheap. So, good, fast, cheap. Yeah, exactly.
277. 45:12If there was a problem, yo, I'll solve it. Yeah. I I mean that's that's the thing. Some people are just problem
278. 45:17solvers and they make money because they're like in any situation they're like I can help you solve that. Now with
279. 45:22AI you can do that. So the the purpose of the 15 minutes a day that I actually agree with, right? Have a daily
280. 45:29practice. Jim Jim Ross sets his timer for an hour. I've now decided to make these sessions um a place where I can
281. 45:38practice my AI stuff on my projects. Although tonight we haven't gotten there yet. >> [laughter] >> All right, we're going to do Joyy's
282. 45:46video. Um, who's this from? This is from Archetypal Architect. The fractal architecture of consciousness. Let's go look at this quick.
283. 45:55The foundation of being, microbial life, sentient species, the rise of narrative. Oh, this is cool. Augmented and creative
284. 46:02minds, digital gods, the fractal pattern. Let's see. Ecological networks. The con mimemetic life forms transcending biology. The Odin mind
285. 46:17known digital gods. No layer is better. Each is simply less blind than the one below it. That's cool. Beautiful. All right, let's see.
286. 46:28Joy Pertie's video for homework. I decided to remake this 40 secondond video each year to track how AI models
287. 46:35evolve and how I grow as a filmmaker. How cool is that? Mind your tabs. Am I on the wrong Oh, yeah. Okay. Mind it right now. Boom. It jump.
288. 46:49This is Joy Party. Well, I remember this. I think I've seen this. I I saw an earlier version of this book.
289. 47:28Wow, that's super cool, man. AI is getting so good, man. It really is.
290. 47:47So cool. Archetypal. That's what my novel's all about. Oh, that's super cool that your novel's all about.
291. 47:55[clears throat] Oh, now I know why it's a a pile of pages. This is This is the uh this is the plot of your novel. [laughter]
292. 48:05It It's going to be a thick one. Yeah. It's It's It's a thicker It's a thicker book. It It's going to It's going to
293. 48:12take you a while. Yeah. Yeah. It's No, it's it's a There's a lot there. It's It's pretty much all the answers of the
294. 48:20universe. Well, all the questions and then detailed answers of each one. Yeah. Simple. [laughter] Read the caption. Which caption?
295. 48:31[clears throat] Book one is 850 pages. Wow. Amazing. Okay. Scroll up just a little. Oh, wait.
296. 48:47Oh, I see up here. Since I first since I published the first book of the novel series I've been writing for several years, I had
297. 48:58notebook LM whip me up an infographic that explores my fractal plot lines. This one focuses on how evolution works
298. 49:06at many layers of existence. Wow, cool. You know, even with AI, this makes my head hurt. [laughter] It actually doesn't. It's actually
299. 49:20pretty it's it's pretty clear. It's quite beautiful. I I I always admire people that can take a big idea and and
300. 49:28follow it follow it forward. I suppose I'm doing that a little bit with Sydney with the musical. Um it's one of the
301. 49:35reasons I like having a partner is that is that you can maintain momentum. I feel like you archetypal are good at
302. 49:41doing this on your own, which is amazing. The answer is 42. Imagine me trying to keep it all straight. Um, way
303. 49:49past where the AI loses track. Oh my god. I Yeah, like the the lack of the the the context window problem where
304. 49:59where with large context windows, it gets confused in the middle of of the context window. I bet this was an
305. 50:07absolute nightmare to deal with. Fascinating. Cool. Okay. So, anyway, so where this is, we're over at the AI
306. 50:14salon and uh in uh if you come over here and join, there's like four little things to get started. The second one is
307. 50:21introduce yourself. You should do that. You should look at our values of the community. Um and then there's there's,
308. 50:27you know, events and community feed, and then there's little different areas, play and create, learn and grow, and
309. 50:31then advocacy and policy and and partnership and things like that. So, lots of things to do here. Um lots of amazing people. So, go do that.
310. 50:42Okay, [sighs] notion. Here we are, people. We're here. So, let me orient you.
311. 50:56So, with the help I'm going to get rid of this. Let's see. Move that to trash. Okay. With the help of Vicki, I'm still at the salon. Oh, I
312. 51:07gotta share a different hold, please. >> [panting] >> Okay, with the help of Vicki,
313. 51:22I set up a notion board where I've got business areas and these are sort of my higher level containers. So, I've got
314. 51:30Story Vine, I've got the Practice Engine LLC, I've got the AI salon, I've got Content Evolution, um I've got Kyle
315. 51:37Shannon Media. So, my writing projects and things like that. And then underneath these I have projects,
316. 51:47right? And so they sit inside. Well, I only have two of them. So, part of the work we're doing today is is populating
317. 51:56this. And so, I have an idea. So, one of the cool things about Notion now is that it's got this little dude at the bottom.
318. 52:07this dude right here. And I What did I name mine? I forget what I named him, [laughter] but whatever. Doesn't matter.
319. 52:17Merlin or something stupid. Tik Tok pin. You can do do it, Kyle. Deep breath. I know. Jesus. I I I don't I so don't want
320. 52:24to be doing this. I so don't want to be doing this. [sighs] DQ Blizzard. I'm over here now so I can Harry. I called him Harry. That's right.
321. 52:35Thank you, Vicki. my second brain who helped me set up notion also remembers the name of my little AI dude Harry. So
322. 52:42Harry um you can ask him to do stuff for you. So here's my idea. My idea is rather than here's what I would normally do pre- AAI days is I
323. 52:55would go up to this level. I would go to my business areas and I'd look at these and then I would go to my finder where I have these folders
324. 53:10and I got to do date modified and so here they are all are at the top and so I've got the AI salon I've got um which
325. 53:20I think is just a a hyperlink a a reference to a another Google Drive folder. Let's see. Start simple.
326. 53:31Is notion a website builder or an app on my computer? You Vicki can answer that. I have no idea. I know that notion is a relational
327. 53:43database. I know that it is what I'm building right now is a fancy to-do list, which I've already vibe coded a a
328. 53:53uh a project tracker to-do list thing. So, there's a part of me that's wanting to resist this because um
329. 54:00because I've already done this work and I don't use that thing as much as I should, but you know, whatever. Okay,
330. 54:07let's see. So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to open these folders. Going to close any subfolders.
331. 54:25That one I'm going to leave closed. Okay. [clears throat] experiments I'm not going to worry about
332. 54:39right now, but music I will. Okay. So, I So, what I'm going to do is this. I'm going to go I'm going to screenshot this. I don't
333. 54:52know if you can see my little screenshot window, but I've got a screenshot window. So, I'm going to screenshot this
334. 55:01and I'm going to go to chat JPT and I'm going to say create me a [clears throat]
335. 55:15um an outline where the top levels are the business areas and the
336. 55:33subfolders are projects. Um, ignore stand alone
337. 55:48documents. If they do not if they don't seem like projects [sighs and snorts] I don't like this. Why why go to chat
338. 56:03GBT when you give give it to the notion agent? Oh, I'll just shut up and watch.
339. 56:20Uh, let's try to do this in notion. Okay. So, I'm gonna Hey, Harry. I'm going to paste in that thing for Harry. Did it paste it in image.
340. 56:34You've run out of free responses. [laughter] Vicki, this is the point where I normally go great, [ __ ] it, and leave.
341. 56:49>> [laughter] >> Oh my god. Okay, so I got to pay for it. So I got to write a check. Shot collar. Where's the damn shot caller?
342. 57:02Why is my mouth dry? [sighs] 24 bucks a month. All right. Thank you, Brandon.
343. 57:17Is this worth 24 bucks a month? Tom Tom Nler laughing his ass off. [laughter] [gasps] Kelly Kelly, tell me it's worth it. It's
344. 57:29called Notion Anxiety. I'm waiting for I'm waiting for Kelly Camp to say it's worth 24 bucks a month. I know, Vicki. I know it's worth it to
345. 57:39you, but you you've got skills that I don't like. Like Like what's that one called? Follow through. Oh, Kelly's
346. 57:48Kelly's gone silent on me. I'm on my own here. All right, I think I'm going to do it. [sighs and gasps]
347. 58:01Just ask Harry for help. Is it worth it not to? Well, I'm still going to have to learn. You will acquire said skills. I
348. 58:09know. I know. I know. I know. Okay. Everybody calm down. Everybody calm down. This is not about you. [laughter]
349. 58:19Please agree to the terms of service. How about you bite my butt? Okay. Use your saved information. Okay. Vicky costs more than $24 a month.
350. 58:35That's true. [laughter] Okay. I'm getting out of credit card. I'm doing it. Oh my god, people. >> [sighs] >> just I I ache [laughter]
351. 58:50[clears throat] [sighs] and for whatever reason Notion can't access any of my saved credit cards on my machine. I'm having to manually type
352. 58:59everything in. This is every fiber of my being is screaming run. Do not do this. which is probably the this this is one
353. 59:09of the things that Liz Miller Gersfeld talks about in our in our uh AI salon mastermind practice lab is that you know
354. 59:18those things that are confronting to you those things where there's upset and angst there's generally gold on the
355. 59:25other side of that so yes thank you Liz in my thank you Liz in my mind [laughter] Shannon's gonna make you sleep in the garage tonight.
356. 59:40Oh my god. [laughter] I am following my own advice and just going monthly. All right, I think I'm almost there. Brandon, [snorts]
357. 59:55wait. Hang on a sec. Plan. Okay. Upcoming invoice. Edit method. Okay, we're going. Welcome to Notion. All right,
358. 1:00:09back to Does that have Okay, so wait, I'm in business area. So, let me go up a layer. So, I've got the image. Okay. Um,
359. 1:00:25here is an image of my directories for my business areas and then projects
360. 1:00:40underneath them. By the way, the answer to your question, Vicki, about why do I go to chat GBT when I could just do it in notion is
361. 1:00:50I think it's basically just old guy behavior or it's just maybe it's add behavior where it's like I know how to use
362. 1:01:00I know how to use chat GPT well enough to to know predictably what it's going to give me. And so if I know I need I
363. 1:01:08want a certain kind of input for some other tool like one of the things that frustrates me madly is I come to notion
364. 1:01:16to try this and then it isn't as good as chatb and then then that drives me crazy. So I tend to just use the tools
365. 1:01:23that I know which I know kind of flies in the face of play with purpose but I'm also just a dude. Okay. Muscle memory.
366. 1:01:34Yeah. Exactly. Um, where you are doesn't matter as long as you tell it where to put it. Okay, so let's see. Here's an
367. 1:01:41image of my directories for my business areas and then projects underneath each of them. Um, there are some
368. 1:01:51stand alone docs that are not projects. You can ignore them. Um, I want you to
369. 1:02:10modify my business areas and projects here to match the hierarchy
370. 1:02:27higher key in the image. All right. Come on, Harry. Do me proud. Oh, don't forget to say put them in the
371. 1:02:40project database. I didn't say that, but it said something about databases. I think I I saw. Let's see how good Harry is, even
372. 1:02:51without my [laughter] my Vicky recommended specifics. [clears throat] Now you have a set calendar event to
373. 1:03:05cancel if you don't like it. Oh, that would be so Mimi, that's really good. That would be that would be a responsible um
374. 1:03:16practice like act. I think that's a really good idea. That's a really good idea. Okay, we're going to do that. In
375. 1:03:24fact, while Harry is crafting my notion, let's go over to my calendar. And this is Janu. So, wait, what's
376. 1:03:35today? Today is the 5th. So, I'm going to go to February 4th. And in the middle of the day, I'm going to say um cancel
377. 1:03:52notion subscription if you are not using it. Exclamation point. Boom. Look at me acting like a [ __ ] adult. [laughter]
378. 1:04:11I just tell Siri to do it for me. I have so not used Siri. Siri I I've got I've got Apple PTSD where I've been with
379. 1:04:19Apple long enough that I remember when they used to be good and and that pretty much ended when Steve Jobs died. And so
380. 1:04:26I've just been in a state of uh of denial and and conscientious objector ever since. Okay. Does it say crafting? crapping or
381. 1:04:37crashing. Uh, crafting. Okay. Wait. Oh, wait. Wait. What's going on here? It's doing something. What I changed? I renamed Oh, this is
382. 1:04:50cool. I renamed the business areas to match the folder names. AI salon, KS Writer, KS Finances, KSAI Consulting, KS Monetizable
383. 1:04:59Projects. I created the missing business areas of KS keynotes, speaking and podcast appearances and KS music. I
384. 1:05:08updated the project to business assignment areas where I could. What's still missing? Your screenshot
385. 1:05:16shows additional project folders like AI selling story vine and but those projects do not currently exist as pages
386. 1:05:23in your project. Um yes. Yes. Create the missing projects in the project database and ass and associate
387. 1:05:41associate with the right business area. Okay. So Harry said he did the work and now
388. 1:05:55Harry's gonna finish the work. Serious crap now. [laughter] So old guy behavior. Yes. Old guy behavior is why I went to chat GBT. Now
389. 1:06:09listen, if this actually does this this this is one of those dopamine moments where I'm going to continue forward. Okay,
390. 1:06:22let's see. created and linked projects under KS monetizable projects CE collabad workshop storyline selling AI
391. 1:06:29festivist AI readiness training program under KS keynote AI podcast under KS writer feed okay so in theory
392. 1:06:41we're going to go to business areas and here's the things oh you know what we're going to do we're going to have Harry's going to help us
393. 1:06:53put appropriate emojis before before [laughter] the other business areas. I'm going to say, "Hey, Harry. Um, let's
394. 1:07:02see. Music and uh KS keynotes have fun emojis. Make appropriate
395. 1:07:18emoji. Emojis. How do you spell emoji? Emo. Shut up. Shut up. He doesn't even know how to spell emoji. I went on this thing called the AI
396. 1:07:31learning lab and [snorts] I I thought I was expecting to learn something and then but he didn't even know how to spell emojis. It was
397. 1:07:40very concerning to me. All right. Make appropriate emojis for the boring ones [laughter] icons. Kyle icons. Well, but they are emojis.
398. 1:07:54Um, it puts the right icons in my recipes. Love it. [clears throat] If you're new here, if you're trying to
399. 1:08:02figure out what the hell is going on, this is the AI learning lab. I am using this time to work on some personal stuff
400. 1:08:12that is stuff that like on a daily basis. I want to be making progress using AI to move my projects forward.
401. 1:08:20Um, and I want to do it like a practice. And part of doing it like a practice means doing stuff that feels distaste justful. [laughter]
402. 1:08:32[gasps] Okay. So now I've got consulting is a handshake. Finances is a bag of money. That's good. Keynotes is a is a
403. 1:08:40microphone. Monetizable projects is a rocket. Music is music. Writer's writing. And AI salon is a magic wand. Um, AI salon is a community.
404. 1:08:57While while I like the wand, is there something better? Help me, Harry. Help me. Help me, Harry.
405. 1:09:12[laughter] I like the brain. Oh, a martini for the salon vibe. Let's go martini. Let's go martini. Okay. Beautiful.
406. 1:09:32Done. And there it is. Done. Martini, right? Okay. So, that's good. [gasps] And then by theme. Ah,
407. 1:09:47okay. So, now my theme. Does this have themes? Yes. Okay. So, we're gonna have Okay. So, so what we set up here, what what Vicki
408. 1:10:02helped me set up was here's our business areas. I don't think we need status here because these are business areas. So,
409. 1:10:13we're not going to have status. So, status is not right. So, so Harry remove the status column. Um, since these
410. 1:10:31[laughter] Let's use a martini since Hot Pockets is not an emoji. That's good. Okay. Remove the status column since
411. 1:10:38these are business areas, not projects. Um, also I want you to take
412. 1:10:52a crack at assigning the correct theme for each business
413. 1:11:08area. I might not need bit. I might not need themes at this level either, but that's okay. Let's see what it can do. Okay, so Harry is gonna
414. 1:11:23Harry's going to help us get rid of that column. I We probably don't need an owner column. Dates. We might need dates. I think
415. 1:11:32dates could be important. Yeah, dates is really important. Like AI Festivus. Well, AI Festivus is inside one of
416. 1:11:39these. Maybe it's not as important. Okay. Priority and then theme. All right. So, it hasn't done anything with themes yet. It's cooking.
417. 1:12:00Look, we no longer have status. That's gone. I removed status. It assigned themes. Let's see. Oh, look.
418. 1:12:10Look how cool that is. All right, Vicky and Kelly and whoever the if Cindy Coon's in here, you freaky people that
419. 1:12:19are like, I love Notion. Notion's great. You should really try it. All right, fine. I'm digging it. I'm digging this.
420. 1:12:26All right, AI, can I move these columns? I bet I can. I bet I can just drag it, right? Oh, yeah. Mhm. Yep. You see what
421. 1:12:34I'm saying there, people? All right, let's get let's tell Harry um since I am the only owner that column
422. 1:12:49seems dumb dumb. [laughter] Let's Let's see if Harry can understand stupid talk. Vicki on YouTube.
423. 1:13:03Enough dopamine. Getting there. Getting there, Vicki. But I I'm still It's pretty cool. I'm tempted. I know,
424. 1:13:18Silver Fox. It's not bad. It's not bad. It's listen, let let me tell you, my expectations for what I was going to
425. 1:13:26have to do tonight was to go in and manually change all the project names and manually change or the the business
426. 1:13:33area names, manually change stuff. So, the fact that it just did it and the fact that it went on ahead and and gave
427. 1:13:39me theme suggestions. Wait, did it not? It didn't understand what I wanted to do there. Um, or did it? Let's see if it
428. 1:13:47removed the owner column. No, remove the owner column. So Harry Harry doesn't understand stupid prompts. [laughter]
429. 1:14:06All right, that's gone. And then there's priority. I don't even know that we need that. So AI consulting is AI amplified marketing.
430. 1:14:17Finances is monetizable content. Yeah, that doesn't really fit nicely in a theme, does it? AI salon people
431. 1:14:27centered project management. Yeah, these don't really fit. All right. So, I'll have to I'll I'll have to deal with that. Okay. Now, let's
432. 1:14:35go look at projects. So, if I go where'd I go? Go back to my control board. Oh, Vicki, I have a question. How these are all sort of
433. 1:14:48[sighs and gasps] like projects is way down here at the bottom like how this page is laid out sucks cuz I kind of want to see the hierarchy
434. 1:15:01like here's business areas and then there's projects below that. Can I drag this up here like to here? Yes. Okay, fine. Fine. [laughter]
435. 1:15:16Tell Harry to fix the page layout. Um, okay. Harry, the page layout here kind of sucks and is unintuitive.
436. 1:15:36Can you help me make it better? I am purposely putting in a shitty prompt because we're all going to do shitty prompts and
437. 1:15:53so I'll I'll do the shittiest prompts and then you can do Wait, what did it What did it do? [laughter] What? What's it doing?
438. 1:16:09It's doing all sorts of [ __ ] I abs Absolutely. I reorganized the control board. Do next today. And then I've got business areas. Here's
439. 1:16:24the projects I'm working on. Well, this is kind of cool. Um,
440. 1:16:38oh yeah, there's the business area and I can sort by business area. Yeah, to-do in progress to-do complete. So, let's
441. 1:16:52see. Some of these are complete. Okay, so wait. So, like the Kai Health video is complete. Um, AI Festivus is complete. Although
442. 1:17:05there's stuff to do for Festivus. Um, in progress to do is not a category here. Vibe project [laughter] man Harry Eagles
443. 1:17:20vibe project management. That's pretty good. Um, this one's complete. CE collab story selling and futures book project is complete.
444. 1:17:42Fetty is complete. Okay. So, I'm going to say Harry. This is great. This is great. Um, but don't show me
445. 1:18:02complete projects and
446. 1:18:22PI let's see primary sort should be on business area and then
447. 1:18:38alpha for projects in each biz
448. 1:18:53area. Okay. So, I'm starting to I'm starting to No, I'm not starting to get religion on this. I'm starting to see that.
449. 1:19:08Okay. Here's what's really good about this. Here's what's really good about this. One of the things that prevents me like
450. 1:19:19in in in my business in StoryVine, we use Trello and someone who's good at project management set up the Trello,
451. 1:19:28you [clears throat] know, workflow and it's changed over the years and things like that. But when I'm setting these things up myself,
452. 1:19:35one of the things that drives me [ __ ] insane is I'll put together a structure and then I'll start working with it and
453. 1:19:44realize that that structure doesn't work. And then what I have to do is I have to go, "Oh god." And I go to a
454. 1:19:49whiteboard and I'm like, "What order should it be in? What should I do?" And then I kind of have to map. What do I
455. 1:19:55need to undo? What do I need to rename? what I need to and and then it just some point I just abandon it because I don't
456. 1:20:01feel like doing that shitty work which that's something I'm working on as a human to just do the shitty work but
457. 1:20:09also if if a tool like this can do the shitty work of like I have a new idea for how I want to organize this I can
458. 1:20:16just tell it that's pretty cool that I like that I'm digging Kyle thank you for [laughter] everything you do you give me
459. 1:20:22the confidence to go all all in on AI Hi, that's awesome, Victor. Um, thank you. And in fact, I'm going to I'm So, I'm trying to do
460. 1:20:32something here. I am trying I am work working [clears throat] excuse me. I'm working really hard to really take in acknowledgements.
461. 1:20:48Um, I've had a fair amount of breakthroughs in the past month or so. And one of the things that I realized is that
462. 1:20:57because I have historically disassociated myself from the things I've created, I'm sitting in the, you know, in the in the back seat, not
463. 1:21:06driving. Um I I'm disassociated from the feedback that I get from you all which is often and it's quite generous and
464. 1:21:23it struck me how shitty and unfair it is to all of you when you say nice things to me that I don't actually take it in.
465. 1:21:30So So I just screenshotted that. So let me show you something cool. Um, I've now got I've got myself a
466. 1:21:37journal um for my daily practice and for some coaching work I'm doing. And then I have this I bought myself this really cool
467. 1:21:48Japanese toolbox and I'm just going to fill it like Cindy [ __ ] has her bucket of um Post-it notes that are [ __ ] she got done. This is
468. 1:22:00going to be filled with printed out or handwritten acknowledgements that I get from people. Um, and I'm gonna [ __ ]
469. 1:22:08fill this thing up. So, anyway, so thank you for that. I still get that. Good for you, Kyle. Yeah, I know, right, Corey. It's like
470. 1:22:16I'm I'm sure you've got, you know, a similar sort of thing where where you get all sorts of acknowledgement and,
471. 1:22:22you know, if you're anything like me, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get to that. No, that's good. Thanks. Thanks.
472. 1:22:26That's terrific. I'm glad I, you know, did that for you. That's great. I'm going to I'm going to go make a pot now. Um, [laughter]
473. 1:22:33so, so I totally get it. Okay, done. Your project's view now hides anything where it's status complete. Sorts by
474. 1:22:42business area first, then a toz within each area. So, Harry understood what I asked for. Now, let's go see if Harry
475. 1:22:47did it right. Let's close Harry. Oh, look at that. That's so cool. Keynote speaking. Okay. And so now, so
476. 1:22:56AI podcast. So I So now I need to Okay. under keynotes. Uh under keynotes, add a project for write
477. 1:23:11a keynote presentation as well as um a project for
478. 1:23:27uh [snorts] speakers bureau. Euros spelled wrong, but it'll figure it out.
479. 1:23:41Okay, I think I'm digging this. I think I'm digging this. Look how fast that was just done. Like, okay. Okay, so look people.
480. 1:23:51So, normally what I would have to do is I would have to add a new page and then it would it would add a thing and then I
481. 1:23:59would have to type stuff in and then I would have to manually connect it to to one of the business areas.
482. 1:24:07All right. Oh, I spelled it correctly. I I inadvertently spelled bureaus correctly. [laughter] That's good.
483. 1:24:15And then for any one of these I can open. I still don't know what what to do with these when they're open. Okay. And
484. 1:24:19then this status of to-do is wrong. So, so status, what would be the status? Um, so this is project status. Project status. Project status.
485. 1:24:37Um, oh, I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to do EOS. Okay. For project
486. 1:24:51for project status. I want them to be just starting
487. 1:25:08off track on track complete.
488. 1:25:26Change anything that is currently in progress or to-do.
489. 1:25:44It's currently in progress or to-do.
490. 1:26:00We'll just start with on track also. On track should be green.
491. 1:26:15Off track should be yellow. Um, complete should be I don't know purple and
492. 1:26:29just starting should be blue. Um, I also think we need a
493. 1:26:52status called um [snorts] um [ __ ] show on fire. Um,
494. 1:27:11okay. We'll call it [ __ ] show for now. [ __ ] show. Um, that is red for when a project is in major
495. 1:27:28need of attention. Okay. Dumpster fire. I think dumpster fire is better. [laughter] Dumpster fire is good. Train wreck. Train wreck's not
496. 1:27:40bad. Dumpster fire is good. Okay, this is good. I think [ __ ] show's a little aggressive. I think [ __ ] shows a little
497. 1:27:46aggressive. Train wreck. I I think I'm going to go train wreck. Not on hold. It's not on hold, Kuno. It's This is
498. 1:27:54projects where it's like, you know those projects where you just keep ignoring it and you're like, "This is going to be
499. 1:28:00bad. This is going to be bad. If I keep ignoring it, this is gonna be bad. And then it is. [laughter] Needs more than a band-aid. Exactly.
500. 1:28:16[laughter] It's just a flesh wound. Okay, let's go look. Do we have Do we have um Look, everything's on track.
501. 1:28:28Look how awesome that is. But look, [ __ ] show. I can make one a [ __ ] show. [laughter] That's so good. Just starting. This is
502. 1:28:38really good. This is really good. Okay, so let's see. Uh Kai Health video. Okay, it so this is complete.
503. 1:28:48Vetti is complete. So Oh, that's cool. As as soon as I turn it to complete, it makes it disappear. So it was smart
504. 1:28:54enough to know to do that. the AI podcast, that's going to be a keynote thing. So, we'll call that one on track. We'll call
505. 1:29:03that one just starting. Uh speakers bureaus, that's just starting. Uh write a keynote presentation just starting.
506. 1:29:1210-person team workshop on track. I would call that off track. That needs attention. That's good. AI festivist on track.
507. 1:29:23Launchpad workshop complete. complete AI readiness training project. I think that's on track. That's in pretty good
508. 1:29:30shape right now. CE collab is that's mostly on track. Storyine selling is off track. That's something I need to
509. 1:29:41get working on. So that is yellow. That this color coding is working for me. I'm liking this. AI futures is complete.
510. 1:29:51Feed your prompt. I would call that off track because I changed the name of the book again [laughter] and Sydney is on track. So, this is
511. 1:30:01good. So, let's go ask Harry. Um, let's change um [ __ ] show. [laughter] I think dumpster fire. Train wreck.
512. 1:30:16Dumpster. I think dumpster fire because dumpster fire implies that you got to put the fire out. two [laughter]
513. 1:30:23dumpster fire. Okay. All right. All right. People, listen. For those of you that are sitting there like, Kyle,
514. 1:30:33notion sucks. And and you're going to hate it and you're never going to like it. I am I am trending toward I think
515. 1:30:42this could be a very powerful tool. My my instinct has always been that this is going to be a nightmare to
516. 1:30:50set up. It is more of a nightmare than I thought it would be, but having little Harry here to just do my work for me,
517. 1:30:57I'm kind of digging Harry. All right, I would need some completed stuff to stay on the list so I can feel the payoff.
518. 1:31:03Well, don't forget these projects. Like, I haven't even gotten to the to-do lists underneath each one of these projects yet.
519. 1:31:12Is this a paid version or free version? Um, it was it was a free version until I used Harry one too many times. And
520. 1:31:21[laughter] then and then Harry said, actually right as I started tonight, I went to ask Harry if he could reorganize
521. 1:31:27my projects. And Harry said, "Yeah, you're gonna Hey, hey, I got a I got an idea there for you, Kyle. How about
522. 1:31:33maybe you go [ __ ] yourself?" He didn't. He Harry did not. He he said, "Unless I'm giving him money there, he will not
523. 1:31:41be helping tonight." So, I went and I forked out the money. And thanks, I think it was Mimi's suggestion, I went
524. 1:31:49into my calendar and I made a calendar event the day before this day next month and said, "If you're not using motion,
525. 1:31:57cancel the subscription." Harry has a damned attitude. He does. Harry's got a bit of a He's got a bit of a situation.
526. 1:32:06Dumpster fire. Love it. Look at that. That's so good. [laughter] Dumpster fire. So good. All right. Okay. Now, so now I have a container.
527. 1:32:22Let's see. Team 10erson team workshop. We've got the keynote up there. [sighs] Festivus. We got collab. Do I have my Oh, I do. Hang on.
528. 1:32:40Sometimes it's good to have a [ __ ] shitty messy desk. See this? This This is my map of all my projects that I did in
529. 1:32:54Nano Banana. There's my brain. And then here's all the projects that came out of my brain. There's a lot of overlap here,
530. 1:33:02but I got a lot of [ __ ] going on. So, let me look at this and see if there's anything missing for my project. Storyline mastermind.
531. 1:33:11Oh, practice engine LLC. Let's see. Let me go to business areas. I guess that's under AI salon. Okay,
532. 1:33:27let's see. Um, under AI salon, create a project Tik Tok pin. You need three days before.
533. 1:33:42Oh, three days before. Sorry to say that. Fine. I can fix that. [laughter] Here, look. Here it is. Here. Cancel
534. 1:33:50notion subscription. Um, edit. You want 3 days before? You got three days before. Boom. Look at that. Done.
535. 1:34:00We don't screw around here. [laughter] That was two days before. No, it was on the 5th and now I made it for the
536. 1:34:11second. So that's three days before. It was one day before and I made it two more. I'm good. I'm good. Kyle, how about doing emergent
537. 1:34:22one day vibe code? What? I don't [laughter] know what that means. Corey demoing emergent. Oh, it's like lovable. Oh,
538. 1:34:39okay. I could do that. Well, let me wait. Let me before I run and do that, I'm gonna create a project called um practice engine.
539. 1:34:53Um uh product practice engine offering. Okay,
540. 1:35:08let me looking ASL meetings. Okay, learning lab. Do I I don't have the learning lab in here, do I? And that should go under
541. 1:35:25I don't know. Let's call Learning Lab a monetizable project. We could Well, this I I make 20 bucks a month on
542. 1:35:40AI Learning Lab. [laughter] Occasionally, occasionally something comes in. All right. Monetizable projects. Yes. So, we'll put it under
543. 1:35:50that. Okay. under [clears throat] monetizable projects um create project for AI learning
544. 1:36:06lab. Okay, [clears throat] [sighs and gasps] my darn thumbs and autocorrect are horrors. [laughter] It's another vibe coding thing.
545. 1:36:21All right, beautiful. Vicki, yes. Is that working well, Kelly? Hey, Kyle. In solidarity, I'm having Notion reorganize my entire database. Oh
546. 1:36:32my gosh, it's Harry Frank's evil twin twin brother. [laughter] It's been real fart, folks. But this old fart has to go to bed. First day of
547. 1:36:45school for my kids tomorrow, so I'm up at 5. Oh my god. Sorry about that. Later. later, Tom. Okay. What time is
548. 1:36:51it? Oh, it's getting to be time. Um, okay. Just added. So, let's go back to control board. So, our control board has this nice area
549. 1:37:01now. Look at all my projects, people. Okay. now. [panting]
550. 1:37:19So, let me add something. Okay, I've got something under AI podcast project. Add a to-do
551. 1:37:37for this week to have AI
552. 1:37:53Gemini or chat Gemini question work. Generate a keynote
553. 1:38:10presentation outline out of the transcript of the Michael of the AI podcast
554. 1:38:25um of the AI podcast. Okay, let's see if it does that. I mean, I know it'll do that. Let's see if it makes sense what
555. 1:38:33it does. So, are you liking notion? I don't know yet. I'm [clears throat] I'm liking that I can tell Harry's my little dude here.
556. 1:38:45I'm liking that I can tell Harry what I want and it just does it. I think I'm really going to like it when I start populating all this stuff
557. 1:38:57and populating it with notes and I I don't know like I I know that the more information that goes into notion and then can get
558. 1:39:12assigned to these projects the more powerful it's going to become. So, I'm at the point right now where I'm like,
559. 1:39:19"Okay, here's the here's the metaphor. I know that in the end what I want is a giant life-sized statue of of maybe a
560. 1:39:30human being, but maybe a human being with like a monster parts." And where I am right now is I'm like
561. 1:39:39I've got a roll of wire and I'm starting to like bend the wire into the armature for the like I'm just starting on one of
562. 1:39:47the feet. And so right now I've got like some twisted up wire that's starting to look like a foot a foot skeleton [laughter]
563. 1:39:57that I'm going to put clay on. But I've got like this whole rest of the thing to imagine and build the structure for
564. 1:40:07before I even start putting clay on it. So that's and and where I am right now is Harry is helping me bend the wire for the feet,
565. 1:40:16telling me what to do, you know, doing a little bit of the work for me. Tik Tok question. Um, the pin went away.
566. 1:40:24Are these just headings for projects right now? But no info and files. That's correct. Right now, help writing a
567. 1:40:33children's book for trauma. Recommended AI. Literally doesn't matter. Any of them are good. Which one do you currently use? Is it I
568. 1:40:44mean, here's the thing about people swear by Claude as being a better writer. Um, but better writer is very
569. 1:40:57very subjective. You might see something that Gemini writes and that resonates more with you than something that Claude
570. 1:41:04writes. Also, all of these tools can be modified to write more like you write by prompting them smartly or writing system
571. 1:41:12instructions. So, it really doesn't matter. I would say the two for for writing a children's book right now that
572. 1:41:18I would recommend are Gemini and Chat GPT because both of them have really good image generation um tools within them that can generate
573. 1:41:30text, can do car consistent characters. Um and they're also really good at the narrative. So I I would I would try
574. 1:41:36those two. Um Gemini or Chat GPT? I just lost that that pin again. Could someone pin that again? Um, have you ever tried
575. 1:41:43vibe coding to self-host to reduce subscriptions? No, it's not a bad idea,
576. 1:41:59but if I wanted to do that, I would probably just go to, you know, something like like the like uh what you call like Po.
577. 1:42:08Like Po lets you use lots of models. I don't think I need to vibe code something up where I can get access to multiple subscriptions. Um
578. 1:42:17I my problem with those kind of sites is that they tend to be a compromise from from the core site, right? Like
579. 1:42:27like PO, if you don't like the basic PO interface and the and the the PO layout, it's like that for every tool, right?
580. 1:42:37It's always the same for every tool. And if you don't like it, you don't like it. Like I just don't like the UI for PO. I
581. 1:42:43think they meant open source. Um Oh. Oh, doing it with open source. I I said this earlier. I just got a I'm a
582. 1:42:53Mac guy. And so I've been avoiding open-source tools like the plague because I don't have a machine powerful
583. 1:43:00enough to really run them and I don't have the hard drive space to [laughter] to to run them. I just got a gaming PC
584. 1:43:08yesterday and I set it up and I've I've I've installed LM Studio and Pinocchio and I'm gonna I'm gonna start playing
585. 1:43:16with open source models. Um I don't have the time or patience to really go deeply into that world. Um, I also [sighs and gasps]
586. 1:43:31the open- source stuff feels like it's just behind like it's lagging just behind the frontier model companies. Um,
587. 1:43:39I think there are probably some arguments where there there might be things like DeepSeek that are that are
588. 1:43:45ahead or at least in parody. Um, but I'm not going to be able to run those versions locally, right? like so so it's
589. 1:43:53like running things locally feels like a compromise to me. So I don't know. So that's where so where I am right now is
590. 1:44:00not really. It's not a bad idea though. It's not a bad idea. And and you know, quite frankly, in 2026, I would imagine
591. 1:44:08that the the efficiency of the models might get to the point that a small something that you can run on a gaming
592. 1:44:16PC without, you know, multiple graphics cards um is good enough to do that. Like I I think that could happen in 2026. Gen
593. 1:44:25Spark has gotten very good at layering models and making them better. I I love Gen Spark. I'm a huge fan of Gen Spark.
594. 1:44:30More controls, more choice. Its personality is great. I I think Gen Spark of of all the things I know that
595. 1:44:37Meta just bought Manis, which I find mind-blowing, but good for Manis. Um I like Gen Spark better than Manis. Um but
596. 1:44:46I think Manis is a bit more uh like like I think of it like like Gen Spark is kind of like
597. 1:45:00I was trying to think of a car metaphor. I can't really. Manis is like an erector set and Gen Spark is like Legos. [laughter]
598. 1:45:17There you go. There's [laughter] your There's your metaphor. There's your toys. Toys from the 80s metaphor.
599. 1:45:24[laughter] Although erector sets from the 50s. [clears throat] Okay, let's see. modify added for to-do for
600. 1:45:33this week use Gemini. So, if I go to AI podcast now and I open this, hang on, let me So, if I go here and I hit open, where do I see
601. 1:45:49my task? Tasks. Use Gemini. The due date is January 9th. All right. Hang on.
602. 1:46:04Let me close this.
603. 1:46:19This is a business area. So, I'm going to go project work.
604. 1:46:41business area status to do. Okay. Okay. So, that kind of worked. [snorts]
605. 1:46:56So, then I think so you don't need to watch me do this. I think my next my next thing to do now is to use Harry
606. 1:47:08to go put in all my to-dos, my tasks. Ask Harry to add the task to the projects. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm
607. 1:47:18going to do. GenSpark is more user friendly. One more step. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. and then I'll have that and
608. 1:47:28then Okay, so Vicki, so here's here's one more question for tonight. Um, so I get that I've got now I've got it
609. 1:47:37set up with business areas, projects underneath them. I've got overall status of the projects if I want to look at
610. 1:47:44that, including dumpster fire. Within the projects, I've got tasks, I've got to-dos. I might rename tasks something more, you know, less
611. 1:47:54businessy. Um, what else do you use notion for? Like what are you putting in the project pages or what are you
612. 1:48:08putting in like what other [ __ ] are you putting in here? Because right now this just is like a fancy to-do list and I
613. 1:48:16know it can do so so much more than that. So, and anyone can answer this, not just Vicki. If anyone uses notion,
614. 1:48:24I'd like to understand like what are the other things I should be thinking about populating this with [clears throat] mouse battery.
615. 1:48:40This is one of those beautiful Apple mice where when you charge it, you can't use it [laughter] because they put the charging port on
616. 1:48:49the bottom where you use the mouse. Resources, reminders to pay or stop bills. Resources like what? Like documents,
617. 1:49:00Vicki. Like you put like a word document in here. That's why I bought a trackpad. All right, I'll I'll I'll start to
618. 1:49:13figure out what resources means next time. Okay, so while I've got you here, um I hope you enjoyed this. I hope you
619. 1:49:28enjoyed watching an old guy try to install software. [laughter] Welcome. Welcome to the AI learning lab
620. 1:49:37where you too can watch someone stumble through life. Um, but listen, this is how we learn, man. This is part of the
621. 1:49:44daily practice, part of how we get better at this [ __ ] is you've got to sit through the the uncomfortable stuff and
622. 1:49:51figure out if something is actually for you. I may do all this work and ultimately realize it ain't for me, but
623. 1:49:58I'm willing to go through it. I like I feel like I owe I enough people that I respect have been telling me it's worth the
624. 1:50:08time, it's worth the investment that I'm going to give it a shot. Um, and it sucks going through it, right? All my API keys are under the
625. 1:50:18tools they belong to. Oh, that's really smart. That's really good. Okay, so couple of things. If you did not see AI Festivus,
626. 1:50:27you missed out on a huge thing. It was 24 hours of content over two days, January 2 or December 26th and 27th. Um,
627. 1:50:35it was a really remarkable event. There's a sneak preview of my musical Sydney in there. Um, there's just all
628. 1:50:43sorts of very, very inspiring talks. you can get the deluxe replay bundle which includes all of the videos, all of the
629. 1:50:51transcripts, um, jellyod podcasts, u just all sorts of stuff from Festivus for 27 bucks. So, if you go to aifestivist.com,
630. 1:51:04you can get the replay bundle for 27 bucks. Like, it is ridiculous how cheap that is. So, go do that if you haven't.
631. 1:51:12even if you just want to support the event because it was free to everyone who watched it. Um, I want you to join
632. 1:51:18the AI salon. So, if you go to community.thesalon.ai, it's on screen right there. If you haven't joined, go and join. Tomorrow
633. 1:51:26night, we've got our monthly meeting. It's called AI Salon Presents. And we've got about a dozen speakers from AI
634. 1:51:32Festivus who are coming back to tell us what they talked about at Festivus and um what they uh what they think is going
635. 1:51:41to happen in 2026. It's going to be really cool. Um [clears throat] so that's happening tomorrow night from
636. 1:51:475:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. Mountain time. So come do that. Uh and then the final things um one of the groups within the
637. 1:51:56AI salon is called AI Life Hacks. that that is hosted by producer Brandon um and Claire Jacobs, Dr. Jay, and they put together um
638. 1:52:08AI life hacks and they bring in people to talk about that. So, so that's um that's Wednesday night at at what 5
639. 1:52:15Mountain time, Brandon? Is that correct? It's in the AI salon. If you go to events, it's in there. 5:30. Okay.
640. 1:52:24And then finally, on January 17th, save the date. It's a Saturday. Corey Sandler, who's in the house tonight, is
641. 1:52:32going to be doing an LOL, a learn out loud. And I think it's on it's on image generation. Is that correct? My custom
642. 1:52:39GPT directory is in notion. Oh, cool. Code blocks. Okay. Sorry. Still remembering process templates. Proud of you. Thank you, DQ.
643. 1:52:51I I'm proud of me, too. I got over a hump of like I set this up with Vicki. whatever it was a week ago and I haven't
644. 1:52:58touched it since because I was kind of intimidated by oh I don't feel like going in there and typing all those
645. 1:53:04project names and I didn't I just screenshotted [laughter] my my finder hierarchy and it matched it. So this now
646. 1:53:13matches my finder hierarchy. That's super cool. And then yeah the Corey Sandler um learn out loud is going to be
647. 1:53:19about image making. If you've not watched how Corey curates and and finds her voice with AI images, it is really something to
648. 1:53:29behold. I haven't seen it in a while, so that's great. Yes, Corey's doing image generation iterations to rabbit holes.
649. 1:53:35Good. Yeah, she runs down creative rabbit holes that I just I find it my brain doesn't work that way. It's so
650. 1:53:41cool to watch someone who can do that really well. Um, beautiful. All right, fantastic everyone. Hope you had a good time tonight.
651. 1:53:52This is what it's like to be in a in a daily practice. You just you just do the work. You just do the work. Sometimes
652. 1:53:58the work, you know, whatever it was three, four nights ago, I was crying like a baby. Tonight it was kind of miserable. We got
653. 1:54:07we got some dopamine hits. Harry helped us [laughter] through the through the rough patches. I'm starting to see some
654. 1:54:13value in notion. Um, I don't quite get it yet, but like all the stuff that Vicki just said, she puts in notion,
655. 1:54:21it's starting to make sense. Prompts and code snippets and API keys and all sorts of [ __ ] like that. And when you have it
656. 1:54:28hooked into chat GPT, as Kelly Camp does, and I assume Vicki does as well, you can just be in chat GPT and be
657. 1:54:36updating [ __ ] and pulling [ __ ] out of Notion. There's something really big here. There's something good here. We
658. 1:54:43just we don't love it yet, but we haven't given up. [laughter] That's it. All right. So, we will vibe code with emergent maybe tomorrow.
659. 1:54:53Sometime this week, we'll do that. Um, beautiful. All right. Um, all have a good night. Hope you had fun and uh I
660. 1:55:01will see you tomorrow. Bye.