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1/5/2026 - Automating Icky Project Organization in Notion Using the AI Assistant

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Kyle Shannon confronts his personal resistance to organizational tasks, diving into the "ick work" required to professionalize his AI business using Notion. Facing the challenge of mapping his extensive file hierarchy, he leverages Notion’s AI assistant, "Harry," to automatically restructure his projects and business areas. This session provides a candid look at how AI can help automate tedious setup and enforce professional consistency, turning a daunting organizational task into a manageable daily practice. The conversation pivots to the broader implications of AI on careers, using data from Stack Overflow to illustrate how technical knowledge is rapidly becoming commoditized. Kyle argues that as AI handles more expertise, "soft skills"—such as integrity, passion, and follow-through—will become the core criteria for hiring and collaboration. He stresses that active participation in communities like the AI Salon is now essential for demonstrating these critical human traits. #Notion,#AItools,#productivityhacks,#futureofwork,#professionalskills,#AIcommunity,#projectmanagement,#dailypractice Chapters: 00:00:00 Welcome and Courage 00:01:15 Facing the Ick Work 00:03:10 Driving Your Projects 00:05:57 Notion Organization Challenge 00:08:00 AI Creates Project Chaos 00:09:18 Future of Content Organization 00:12:53 New Gaming PC 00:14:10 Local AI Tools 00:18:10 Stack Overflow Decline Analysis 00:21:59 Hiring for Soft Skills 00:25:00 Importance of AI Community 00:29:05 AI Salon Community Creations 00:33:00 Emotional Suno Music 00:36:10 AI Music and Visualizations 00:39:40 Making Money with AI 00:44:50 Fractal Plotlines Infographic 00:50:40 Beginning Notion Setup 00:56:00 Paying for Notion AI 01:00:00 Automating Notion Organization 01:04:15 Testing Harry the AI 01:17:20 Acknowledging Positive Feedback 01:22:30 Defining Project Status 01:32:00 Populating Notion Tasks 01:41:40 Open Source AI Debate 01:51:52 Final Event Reminders

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0:00 Explain why we're not getting any
0:01 comments. [laughter]
0:10 [music]
0:15 [music]
0:33 >> [music]
0:41 >> Welcome, welcome. If you just joined on
0:43 YouTube or LinkedIn or Twitter, go ahead
0:45 and comment. I forgot to go live earlier
0:48 because, you know, professional
0:54 I did a thing scared today.
0:57 I didn't get a yes, but I didn't get a
0:59 no.
1:02 Um, even if you got a yes or even if you
1:05 got a no
1:07 that you did a thing scared is the
1:11 actual definition of courage.
1:13 Congratulations. That's a big deal.
1:16 Actually, one of the things that I was
1:17 thinking about doing tonight is going
1:20 back to notion on my own. I know we
1:22 probably might have Vicki in here, so I
1:25 probably have I probably have uh
1:28 [laughter] guard rails that if I get
1:31 completely stuck, I can ask someone. But
1:34 my my challenge with notion right now
1:37 isn't
1:38 how to set it up. It's set it's set up
1:41 enough that I can start doing stuff with
1:44 it. My challenge with notion is it's at
1:47 the part where
1:49 I actually have to return to it and put
1:52 in the the icky work. So, it's not quite
1:56 taking action in the face of fear like
1:58 you did, Mimi, but it is
2:03 resisting
2:05 doing something fun and sexy
2:08 and choosing to do something that I
2:10 actually need to get done. And and
2:12 here's why I need to get it done.
2:15 Now that you're live, Vicki is here.
2:16 Awesome. Um,
2:22 I've got enough projects and I've got
2:25 enough
2:28 I've got enough shift in
2:31 what I want to do in 2026 where I want
2:34 to be more intentional. I want to make
2:37 some [ __ ] money. I want to um
2:44 not be so willing to give into the fear,
2:47 right? I want to have a a good
2:49 courageous year, a good a good solid
2:54 make it happen year.
2:56 And
2:58 [music]
3:03 and part of that requires doing the
3:05 doing the ick work, doing the work that
3:07 doesn't feel as sexy. [music]
3:10 JJ, same. Same, Kyle. Same. Yeah. It's
3:14 it's it's like I mean, [laughter] you
3:16 know, you know, starting out the new
3:18 year with like, okay, we're going to
3:19 kick ass in 2026. It's like great. And
3:22 then the next day shows up, you're like,
3:24 "Okay, what what are we gonna do now?
3:28 What are we?"
3:30 So, you're with me, right? I'm just all
3:33 on my own still. Yeah, man. If you're
3:37 going to do this [ __ ] you actually have
3:39 to do the [ __ ]
3:41 In my case,
3:44 my big epiphany was
3:47 I have a lifetime of
3:50 [music] I'm really good at starting
3:52 projects and then I and I think of them
3:54 like cars. Like I design and build a car
3:58 like I'm good
4:01 and then I get out of the driver's seat
4:02 and I get in the back seat [laughter]
4:04 and I don't drive it.
4:08 So, this year is going to be about
4:10 finding ways to be in the driver's seat.
4:13 Being in the driver's seat, [music]
4:15 really owning what that means.
4:20 Sometimes that means taking
4:22 responsibility for [ __ ] you didn't do.
4:24 Sometimes that means
4:27 not relying on other people to make
4:29 decisions that you know are yours to
4:31 make. Can you drive the black bar back
4:34 on? I could. And I could also flip
4:37 cameras.
4:39 Um,
4:42 let me see.
4:45 [singing]
4:46 There we go. That's better for you tick
4:48 tockers, right? That's good. [music]
4:57 [music]
5:02 Okay, hang on a sec.
5:04 Hang on, people. There's There's schmutz
5:07 to be smooched. Schmooched. [laughter]
5:12 All right. How's that? Is that better?
5:14 Uhoh.
5:16 What have I done? What have I done?
5:18 Yeah, that's better. Okay. Beautiful.
5:23 Where is he going? Just going to to wipe
5:27 the pav.
5:29 I too hope I can earn a bit of money
5:31 with AI.
5:34 You can make money with
5:36 >> I'm okay with just 10 million US
5:39 [laughter]
5:41 per hour to start. Yeah, 10 million 10
5:45 million US should get you through the
5:47 weekend.
5:51 [music]
5:54 Um, I actually before I dive in and do
5:56 my distasteful work, I I do want to
5:58 share something with you. I made a a
6:00 video today on Tik Tok and I also posted
6:03 it on LinkedIn [music] and then I went
6:06 to boost it on LinkedIn and I actually
6:08 think it's important enough that it's
6:09 worth sharing more widely and uh
6:12 LinkedIn rejected it because I say the F
6:15 word in it. [music]
6:21 [music and singing]
6:23 Um, but I want to talk about that
6:27 and then I'm going to dive into the the
6:29 work I have to do on notion actually
6:33 doesn't have anything to do with notion
6:35 but but I'll tell you what it's going to
6:36 be so you can prepare to take a nap now.
6:40 [laughter]
6:43 Okay. So Vicki helped me set up. I've
6:46 got these things called I forget what
6:48 they're called and what I called them,
6:49 but like large project groupings and
6:52 then I have projects underneath those.
6:54 Like Kyle writing might be a a group
6:58 project and then Sydney might be a
7:00 project underneath that and a book might
7:01 be a project underneath that.
7:05 And so I've got I've got a set of
7:07 folders on my hard drive that follow a
7:12 hierarchy. And I want to make sure that
7:14 my notion folders follow the same
7:16 hierarchy so that there's some
7:17 consistency between them so it's not all
7:19 [ __ ] confusing.
7:21 Um, and while that might sound simple to
7:25 some of you, the thought of that to me
7:28 is one of those things just like you
7:30 know grinding
7:32 I don't know sand into a wound. It's
7:34 just like it's just very distasteful.
7:37 [music]
7:37 And so
7:39 it's just going to be me doing that.
7:41 Now, what I am likely going to discover
7:43 is that it's less of a big deal than I
7:46 make it out to be, which one of my
7:49 experience in experiences in life is
7:53 the anticipation is always always way
7:58 more intense than the reality. [music]
8:06 [music] Kyle, that's tantamount to brain
8:08 rewiring. Yeah.
8:11 >> [music]
8:12 >> And and listen, I get I'm here's what
8:14 I'm not doing. What I'm not doing is I'm
8:16 not trying to turn myself into a project
8:18 manager, right?
8:21 But what I am trying to do is say that
8:26 as part of my daily practice in
8:28 professionalizing my work in AI,
8:34 I think one of the one of the downsides
8:38 of AI is that it it it so easily allows
8:43 you to start new [ __ ]
8:46 And then if you don't have a if you
8:49 don't have a decent place to put that
8:51 [ __ ] where you can go find it again,
8:55 then it's just chaos. Then it's just
8:57 noise and madness.
8:59 Um,
9:01 and so this is, you know, if I had not
9:04 witnessed Cindy [ __ ] get her get her act
9:06 together on this and people like Vicki
9:09 that are figuring this stuff out, um,
9:11 who also have, you know, similar
9:15 neurospicy,
9:16 um,
9:19 elements That's [laughter]
9:21 [music]
9:31 [music]
9:37 [music]
9:43 [music]
9:48 >> [music]
9:53 [music]
9:56 >> I truly believe that organizing content
9:58 for others will be a future job. That's
10:01 actually not a bad idea, Kelly. I I do
10:06 not disagree with you.
10:11 Now, what I would say is that AI
10:14 AI is going to get good enough that you
10:17 may not need to organize stuff,
10:20 but I think that's ultimately a pipe
10:23 dream because
10:28 I don't know. I don't know, man. That's
10:30 a fascinating one.
10:36 Maybe it's not even so much that AI
10:38 can't organize it. It's that you hire
10:40 someone
10:43 to just help you think about how you
10:44 want to organize things.
10:47 I've thought about this for a while that
10:49 that the idea of hierarchical folder
10:52 structures.
10:56 Like it makes sense when we as humans
10:58 have to dig through stuff, but it it
11:00 stops making sense when the hierarchy
11:03 gets so complicated that our brains
11:05 can't handle it.
11:07 >> [sighs and gasps]
11:10 >> Well, with the exception of the Dewey
11:12 decimal system, [laughter]
11:14 but you know, there's people in there
11:16 whose job it is to just organize [ __ ]
11:19 [laughter]
11:21 But if you have a tool that that can
11:23 find anything and knows everything about
11:25 you, do we need to organize stuff? Right
11:28 now, we do. So, right now, I'm going to
11:30 learn [ __ ] Notion. I'm going to get
11:31 it together. I'm going to learn notion.
11:33 So, that's what we're going to do
11:34 tonight. All right. I predicted prompt
11:36 movies two years ago because I wanted to
11:38 watch Die Hard [laughter]
11:42 in Lego.
11:47 [music]
11:54 Is this [music] place I can rest my
11:56 forehead
11:59 [music]
12:01 to gather [singing] my thoughts in sweet
12:03 silence?
12:08 And is this place where the
12:10 [singing and music] feelings on day
12:14 from an over [singing and music] closure
12:16 to violence.
12:19 This is the place I can slowly [singing]
12:21 face. The only one I truly can know.
12:26 [music]
12:27 These are tears from a long time ago.
12:29 [singing]
12:31 Got these [music] tears from a long time
12:33 ago.
12:34 I [singing] need to cry 30 years or
12:37 [music] so.
12:39 These are tears from a long time.
12:43 [music]
12:45 Go.
12:48 [music]
12:53 [music]
12:54 Okay,
12:56 [clears throat] let's get going.
12:58 So, one one exciting uh one exciting
13:01 moment. No, one exciting thing for me
13:04 personally
13:06 is um I saved up some shekels and and I
13:12 got myself a new gaming PC so that I
13:15 could do sim racing again. Don't worry,
13:16 I'm not going back to sim racing five
13:18 nights a week instead of this cuz this
13:20 replaced my sim racing, [laughter]
13:23 but I want to occasionally race again.
13:25 And I had blown out I had blown out my
13:27 my handme-down computer from one of my
13:29 boys. I got a uh I got a a uh a freebie
13:33 graphics card from the internet and it
13:35 blew up my computer. So So I haven't
13:38 been able to race. So I went to Costco
13:41 and I got myself a pre-built PC. Um and
13:44 it's got a decent graphics card in it.
13:47 So I'm going to be able to do local AI
13:50 stuff. Um, I'm not going to get into
13:53 open source deeply, but I do want to
13:56 understand what's possible and what's
13:58 possible with like a basically a gaming
14:00 PC. I still prefer the large screen of
14:03 YouTube, but I keep Tik Tok open so I
14:05 can read the comments. Let's make a new
14:07 platform. Neuros Oh, actually,
14:11 you know what, Tom Nodler,
14:14 Mr. Forever hooked.
14:19 That would be like an interesting Tik
14:21 Tok tube.
14:24 That would be an interesting vibe coding
14:26 app, wouldn't it? I do. Both of them
14:28 have APIs. I think both of them do. I
14:30 don't know if Tik Tok does. They may
14:32 not. [clears throat] Okay.
14:35 I can't leave you. [laughter] I wish I
14:38 could leave you. [gasps] Okay. I want to
14:40 show you all something. Let me go share
14:42 my screen. Let me go share the screen.
14:48 I'm gonna guess I'll do entire screen
14:50 because I'm going to be bouncing around
14:51 a bit. [clears throat]
14:54 Okay, let's see.
14:58 Where did I respond?
15:03 I did a reply. Did I do a reply? I think
15:06 I did a reply.
15:10 AI models are killing critical thinking,
15:13 are they?
15:15 Okay, here's this
15:18 graph from. Okay,
15:21 so here's the comments. This is on
15:24 hacker news [clears throat]
15:25 y combinator.
15:27 [cough]
15:29 Excuse me.
15:31 Got a little little garb in in your old
15:34 throat.
15:36 All [clears throat] right.
15:39 Oh, Bunny Cat sent gifts on Tik Tok.
15:42 Thank you very much, bunny cat. Oh, a
15:44 hat and a mustache. Thank you so much.
15:47 That is lovely. I appreciate that. Oh, I
15:51 am so excited to hear you say this. I
15:54 started playing with Lama and
15:56 anti-gravity. Oh, that's cool. So, um,
15:59 so here's what I did. I cheated. One of
16:01 Thank you so much. I appreciate that,
16:03 buddy. Um, one of the things that I have
16:06 told you all for years is get your ass
16:10 in community, right?
16:13 [laughter]
16:13 And and um, why do we do that? Well,
16:19 maybe there's some day where you get
16:23 yourself a gaming PC that has a graphics
16:26 card in it that can do AI. Well, what do
16:28 you do next? You could just go ask chat
16:30 GPT, but if you know someone like Brent
16:33 Peterson who's been building stuff on
16:35 open source models for three years at a
16:38 worldclass level, you could just drop
16:41 Brent a little DM on LinkedIn and go,
16:43 "Hey buddy, [laughter]
16:46 what's the what's the first thing I
16:48 should install?"
16:50 And he just flipping answered it. He
16:53 just flipping answered it. um it's LM
16:56 Studio
16:58 um is what he recommends. So LM Studio
17:00 basically gives you like um like a chat
17:03 GPT like interface
17:05 um and then you can basically just
17:06 download different models and you just
17:08 basically switch between models and you
17:10 use it just like Chad GPT. So that's LM
17:12 Studio. And then the other thing he
17:14 recommended was Pinocchio, which if you
17:17 don't know Pinocchio, it basically
17:20 if you really want to set up like
17:24 any decent
17:26 local AI model, you've got to set up
17:29 like Python libraries and Python servers
17:32 and dependencies and I don't know,
17:34 there's all this [ __ ] you got to set up.
17:36 And that's exactly the reason why I
17:39 don't play with open source is because I
17:41 could give two shits about that level of
17:43 geekery. I just I don't care. I don't
17:46 care. What Pinocchio does is it just
17:48 automates all of that. So So geeks that
17:52 love that stuff, they put together a
17:54 little framework of here's all the
17:55 dependencies you need, here's all the
17:56 tools you need to install, and the
17:58 Pinocchio just installs that [ __ ] for
18:00 you. Just goes and does it. Um, I I
18:04 haven't actually played with anything on
18:06 Pinocchio yet, but I those are the two
18:07 things I have. So, where's paid? I'm
18:10 lost already. [laughter]
18:16 Oh, man. Okay. I started with LM Studio.
18:19 Wait till you have the power to handle
18:22 it. Um, fried my MacBook Air. [laughter]
18:27 That's hilarious. That's great. Yeah,
18:29 MacBook Airs weren't weren't meant for a
18:31 lot of high data throughput.
18:34 Okay, so this is the response board to
18:39 this
18:43 uh this graph. Wait, where
18:45 [clears throat] is it?
18:47 Is this it? Yeah, this graph.
18:51 So, let me make this bigger. So, this
18:53 graph
18:55 is funny. I made a video about this this
18:57 morning about
18:58 This is a graph of Substack and Vicky
19:01 Baptist was like, "Uh, are you sure?
19:05 Seems like Substack's doing pretty
19:07 good." I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, I I know
19:09 what I'm doing, Vicki." And then I went
19:11 and looked at the graph and it's not
19:13 Substack, it's Stack Overflow, but it
19:16 had a stack in it. In my defense, it did
19:18 have a stack in it. So, [laughter] I had
19:21 to I had to re re uh re-record my video
19:25 that talked about Substack and delete
19:26 it. Uh, Stub Substack's doing fine. This
19:28 is Stack Overflow. Um, here's what I
19:32 wanted to share you share with you about
19:34 this graph. So, uh, Stack Overflow
19:37 started in 2008 and, um, and this is
19:41 their, um, graph of number of questions
19:45 asked. I assume this is maybe quarterly.
19:52 It's this is two years across here. So
19:54 we got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
20:00 15 16 17 19 20. Okay, so it's monthly.
20:04 So this is monthly um monthly messages.
20:08 They peaked at around 210
20:12 27,000
20:14 monthly messages.
20:16 Um they're down to 321.
20:22 So, it just fell off a cliff. Right
20:24 here,
20:26 right here
20:28 is the end of 2022.
20:31 So, that's the the beginning of chat
20:33 GPT.
20:34 And what what Stack Overflow is is this
20:37 is a site that where programmers ask
20:40 each other questions like the question I
20:42 asked Brent Peterson. If it was a real
20:44 substantive question, I would go to
20:46 Stack Overflow and I would say, "Hey,
20:48 who knows how to handle a memory
20:50 overflow error with this programming
20:52 language and this kind of
20:53 configuration?" And some nerd in there
20:56 would figure it out and tell me and
20:57 everything would be happy.
21:00 They're basically
21:02 non-existent, [clears throat]
21:03 right? So, what strikes me about this
21:07 graph,
21:08 we've been talking a lot in here about
21:10 making money. Well, not a lot. In the
21:13 past two weeks, we've talked the the the
21:16 subject of making money
21:20 >> has come up that we've all put in a lot
21:21 of time and and we've got some expertise
21:25 and we've got some credibility and
21:29 you know, we're sort of combining what
21:31 we used to do with our AI and we've got
21:33 some some knowledge there and that's all
21:36 good.
21:37 This is an example of a community that
21:40 has very very high knowledge demands
21:43 and
21:46 the
21:48 people asking other people for that
21:51 knowledge is non-existent because
21:54 knowledge is now a commodity that we can
21:56 ask a large language model for. And the
22:00 implication of this is this is not just
22:02 going to be limited to programmers. This
22:05 is going to be every kind of knowledge.
22:08 If you're an expert um
22:13 business consultant, change management
22:16 consultant, creative director, project
22:19 manager, you've got 20, 30 years of
22:21 experience. Historically, how you would
22:24 market yourself is say, I've got these
22:26 skills. I've got this knowledge. And
22:30 historically, someone would go, I need a
22:32 project manager. I need someone with
22:34 expertise in project management.
22:39 And they would go look and they say,
22:40 "Oh, they've got 20 years of experience
22:42 here." Well, they're not asking those
22:45 questions anymore because if they need
22:48 just basic knowledge about stuff, they
22:49 can go ask chat GPT. If they want to
22:52 vibe code an app, they can go vibe code
22:53 an app.
22:55 It doesn't mean that that no one's going
22:58 to hire other people. I think there's
23:01 going to be lots of hiring that goes on,
23:03 but I think that how people get hired is
23:07 going to change dramatically. So,
23:09 instead of me thinking, I've got to find
23:10 someone who's good at Photoshop or who's
23:12 good at, you know, has experience with
23:15 this, has these kind of skills,
23:19 I'm going to hire them for very
23:20 different reasons. I'm going to assume
23:22 that because of AI, if they're decently
23:25 AI literate, they're going to be able to
23:27 figure out the knowledge stuff, the
23:29 tactical stuff, the execution stuff, the
23:31 expertise stuff.
23:33 Well, how why am I going to hire them?
23:35 Well, I'm going to hire them for their
23:38 soft skills, right? We there's always
23:40 been this talk in the in the work world
23:42 of soft skills and hard skills. Hard
23:44 skills are here's the [ __ ] I know how to
23:46 do. Soft skills are like you're not an
23:49 [ __ ]
23:50 You've got integrity. You follow through
23:53 on things. You you give a [ __ ] about the
23:56 end product and and as as Liz Miller
23:59 Gersfeld says, the fidelity of the idea.
24:02 I'm not going to hire Liz because she's
24:04 great at this tool or that tool or being
24:07 able to edit things together. I'm going
24:09 to assume that she can figure that stuff
24:11 out because of AI. I'm going to hire her
24:13 because I know that she's personally
24:15 cares deeply about understanding what
24:18 we're trying to accomplish and
24:20 maintaining the fidel fidelity of that
24:22 idea.
24:23 And so the the reason I'm sharing this
24:25 is that, you know, I the the more I
24:29 learn about what's coming and what's
24:31 here, the more important than ever it
24:34 seems to be part of a community like
24:36 this one, part of the AI salon
24:40 that getting your voice heard so that
24:44 you so people understand that you're
24:46 passionate and you're
24:49 um
24:51 that you have integrity and that you are
24:54 someone you'd want to hang out with is
24:56 is really important stuff.
24:59 The implications for education are huge.
25:01 That's why I'm positioning myself out of
25:03 teaching and into AI for higher
25:05 education. Yep, that makes sense to me.
25:07 Biology is the next big target in my
25:09 humble opinion. Lots of companies
25:11 looking for biology PhDs
25:13 uh to check AI biology output. Oh yeah,
25:16 especially cell bio. Yeah. and and and
25:19 that'll even be temporary because at you
25:21 know at some point simulation world
25:23 understanding
25:25 um world simulation is going to be so
25:27 strong that the the AI is going to be
25:29 able to run experiments virtually that
25:31 match what happens in the world. So
25:33 you'll need less and less of those
25:35 people verifying that science because
25:37 it'll be it'll be so so much farther
25:39 down the down the road. And then when we
25:41 have physical robots um maybe you even
25:43 have have labs that can do all that
25:45 stuff. Um, but again, it goes back to
25:48 we're going to hire people, but we're
25:49 going to hire them for different
25:50 reasons. So, anyway, big thanks to AI
25:52 Salon. Amazing and mind-blowing
25:55 contributors. Yeah, exactly. AI Salon
25:57 helped me find someone in my field,
25:59 archetypal architect. I'm hoping to make
26:01 an impact. Great. Beautiful. Um, yeah.
26:05 So, so if you're not a member of the AI
26:07 salon, join, go to community.thesalon.ai
26:11 and join. Um, it doesn't cost anything.
26:15 you can join what's called the AI salon
26:17 mastermind and that's where we're
26:19 working on designing our daily practices
26:21 and I'm turning this channel into an
26:24 expression of my daily practice, a place
26:26 where I can practice um being more
26:30 intentional with AI and so I'm I'm
26:31 really excited about that. Tomorrow
26:34 night, um if you missed AI Festivus, we
26:37 have a really fun uh we have a really
26:39 fun uh AI salon presents tomorrow night.
26:43 So, from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. Mountain
26:45 time,
26:47 we are um
26:50 bringing back I think what did we end up
26:53 with, Brandon? Like a dozen a dozen
26:55 speakers from AI Festivus, something
26:58 like that.
27:00 See? Yeah. Um we have like a dozen
27:03 people including Kelly Bes and um well,
27:08 Brandon will be there. [laughter]
27:10 Brandon will be bringing people up. a
27:12 bunch of people that spoke at Festivus
27:14 um are going to be just doing like a
27:16 little five minute recap of what they
27:18 talked about at Festivus and then
27:20 talking about what are their thoughts
27:21 for 2026, you know, what are their
27:23 predictions, what are their thoughts. Um
27:25 so it should be a really good really
27:27 good uh uh session and and just a lot of
27:30 love in the room because the the
27:32 presenters at Festivist did did really
27:34 great and people just love them. There's
27:36 uh Joy Perie is gonna be there and Rick
27:38 and and uh Erica Erica Hana um puke
27:43 rainbows. I don't know if she's here
27:44 tonight, but she was here the other
27:46 night giving me all sorts of [ __ ]
27:48 [laughter]
27:50 Um I would be nowhere in my AI knowledge
27:53 without this community. Thanks all.
27:56 Yeah. And it's, you know, it's funny
27:57 like the people that the people that are
28:00 active in the community, if I think
28:02 about, you know, if I want to do
28:04 something,
28:06 I know the people in the community who
28:08 show up, right?
28:11 And I know the people in the community
28:12 who are curious and adventurous and
28:15 think, you know, intelligently and think
28:17 critically.
28:19 And so if it comes time at some point
28:20 for me to hire people, I'm going to be
28:22 able to go, "Huh, who do I who do I know
28:24 in here? I'm not going to go to [ __ ]
28:27 LinkedIn. Who's got the right resume for
28:29 this set of skills that I want?" No. No.
28:33 No. No. No. Okay.
28:40 Are we allowed to post the link here?
28:42 Which link? To the AI salon?
28:45 Yes.
28:48 In fact, it's on screen right now.
28:49 community.thesalon.ai
28:52 here. Right here. Right here. Yeah.
28:55 There you go.
28:59 Oh, beautiful. Oh, the link the link
29:01 directly to the uh to the event
29:04 tomorrow. Yeah, it's great. Awesome. So,
29:06 there's the if if you go to just the the
29:09 basic AI Salon uh Mighty Network site,
29:12 the community uh and click on the events
29:14 tab, you will also see it in there. All
29:17 right, let's go. I like it. I like it a
29:20 lot. Okay, I'm avoiding what I what I
29:24 said I'm going to do next. I don't want
29:25 to do it.
29:27 >> Hey, Kyle.
29:28 >> Yes.
29:29 >> Well, I'm gonna help you avoid it. Have
29:31 some weekend homework to grade.
29:34 >> Oh, yeah. That's right. Okay, good.
29:36 >> That was my way of trying to tell you,
29:37 let's go to the salon.
29:39 >> That's right.
29:40 >> Where am I going? Look what I look what
29:41 I made. And and uh community feed.
29:45 It's mostly in liquid. I mean,
29:47 >> okay, cool. For homework, Joy Party,
29:49 I've decided. Wait, let's go. Let's go
29:51 see where we've got. Okay, there's one.
29:55 Oh, this one's cool. Weaver. Weaver
29:58 doing some cool stuff in here. All
29:59 right, we'll go look at this in a
30:01 second. Lori Blair,
30:05 Brandon Tid, silly song I made.
30:08 What's this? Weaver. Another one.
30:13 real triplets or be tip triplets. Mod
30:17 2100.
30:20 Weaver geeking out.
30:23 That's gorgeous.
30:25 Weaver's in the comment.
30:28 It's a great site, by the way. Oh, the
30:30 community site. Thank you. That's we we
30:32 have Andy Scarantino to thank for the
30:35 organization of the salon right now. She
30:38 uh she's really good at at figuring that
30:41 stuff out. Okay, this is a sunno song
30:43 from Brandon. Silly song I made for the
30:46 tidbits. Those are the those are the
30:48 Brandon Tid children, I'm guessing,
30:50 [laughter] because he calls them the
30:52 tidbits. All right, here we go. Oh,
30:54 something went wrong.
30:56 Please try refreshing the page.
30:59 All right, that's good. But I got to
31:01 share this different. Hold, please.
31:05 [clears throat]
31:09 All right. So, this is a chilling song
31:11 for Brandon's kids.
31:21 [music]
31:26 I'm swimming in the [singing] snow with
31:27 my flippers on tight, wearing shades in
31:29 the dark of the middle of night. I'm
31:32 eating hot soup from an ice cream cone.
31:34 Calling everyone loudly on a silent
31:37 phone. Nothing makes sense [singing] and
31:39 that's just fine. When everything
31:42 backwards feels right on time,
31:46 it's the opposite day. Hooray!
31:49 Hooray! Hooray! [singing]
31:53 Up is down and night is day. Laugh it
31:56 loud. Don't be afraid. [music] come and
31:59 play.
32:01 [singing]
32:06 >> So, so Brandon, I have a question for
32:08 you. [laughter]
32:11 So, so this is turning into your
32:13 soundtrack for your car. Have you
32:15 created songs that you've played so much
32:17 now that you can't stand them anymore?
32:19 [laughter]
32:21 >> We're getting there.
32:24 But the kids will request actual like
32:27 they will be singing them here and um
32:30 they will be like requesting them by
32:33 name. So they want to hear like oh I
32:35 want to hear this song. This one's a bit
32:37 campy. This is probably the campiest one
32:39 that we created.
32:40 >> It's catchy and it and we only created
32:43 it a week ago. So it's it's still in hot
32:45 rotation.
32:46 >> This one's still still nice and fresh.
32:48 [laughter]
32:49 I like it. That's awesome. Uh, the one
32:52 above mine though, um, I think it was
32:55 from Silver Fox.
32:57 >> This one?
32:57 >> Um, it absolutely amazing. So, much much
33:01 better than than my AI.
33:03 >> No, yours. Listen, yours yours is what
33:05 it reminded me of is like a a Wiggles
33:07 song or like one of those things where
33:09 you're like, you know, this this has
33:11 been fo foisted on my family. I should
33:13 not have to deal with this. But you
33:15 foisted it on yourself. So,
33:17 >> yes, we were the we were the foyers.
33:20 >> That's awesome. All right, let's listen
33:22 to Silver Foxes. By the way, if you're
33:24 wondering what we're doing, we we uh on
33:26 Friday night date night, uh we give
33:28 homework for the weekend. And so we just
33:30 said, "Hey, this weekend go make
33:32 something nice and and post it into Look
33:34 what I made." And so that's what people
33:35 have done. Um okay, let me
33:41 go play this song.
33:51 Do you feel feel me? Okay.
33:57 [music]
34:04 [music] We used to be electric
34:06 summer on our skin. Now every hour is a
34:10 day. You feel [music] this paper thin.
34:12 [singing]
34:13 Your voice is right there, but it's
34:16 miles away. Like we're both [music]
34:18 holding goodbye back every day. I scroll
34:22 through a lance.
34:25 [singing]
34:26 Trying [music] to prove we were real,
34:29 not just accidents. Your eyes don't
34:31 [singing] land the way they used to do.
34:34 And I hate how that hurts. [music] I
34:37 hate me for it, too.
34:41 Do you feel me when you don't reach for
34:43 my hand? When your silence says stop
34:47 what your heart says I can't. We're sad
34:50 and we're angry. We're breaking into you
34:55 and my
34:58 losing [singing and music]
34:59 you.
35:02 Do you feel [music and singing] me? Do
35:04 you feel me? We don't even fight like we
35:09 mean it anymore. Just sharp little
35:12 [music] words. Then we stare at the
35:14 floor. You say you're fine. [singing]
35:16 Like it's easier to lie. I say whatever,
35:21 but I'm dying inside.
35:24 You look past [music] me like I'm
35:26 background [singing]
35:27 noise. I miss the way you used to say my
35:30 [music] name like [singing] a choice.
35:32 And I can't tell what's worse. You
35:36 letting go or me still open your door.
35:43 Do you feel me when you don't reach for
35:46 my hand? When your silence says stop,
35:49 but your heart says I [music] can. We're
35:52 sad and we're angry. We're breaking into
35:56 you are my
36:00 and [music] I'm losing you.
36:07 >> [music]
36:09 >> That's so good. That's so good. It just
36:12 I think 2026 is going to be a really
36:14 interesting year. Um it became pretty
36:17 apparent in 2025
36:21 that
36:22 there are absolutely AI haters with all
36:26 of the music generation tools. Um but
36:29 you also had Warner Music and Universal
36:31 Music. um quas buying basically suing
36:36 their way into owning major stakes of
36:39 Sunno and Udo. Um, so the the music
36:43 industry is invested in these
36:45 technologies and there's a lot of
36:47 musicians who've embraced AI as a
36:50 component in the chain of craft of
36:53 making songs like taking old snippets or
36:55 ideas from songs, turning them into
36:57 tracks and then splitting them into
36:59 stems and sort of, you know, recreating
37:01 them. But but absolutely using AI in in
37:04 the flow. Um, I think 2026 that's going
37:07 to get way more way more apparent or or
37:10 way more visible. Um, and I don't I
37:14 don't think it's going to be I I I hope
37:17 not that it's going to be just, you
37:19 know, years and years and years of
37:22 people screaming about it. Um, we'll
37:24 see. We'll see. Joyy's video. The notion
37:28 motion. I want to look at I want to look
37:29 at Weaver's
37:31 graphics here.
37:33 These are cool. The Ryman hypothesis.
37:35 Oh, wait. I'm not sharing my screen.
37:41 Navier Stokes PTE. So, these are like
37:45 math proofs, prime patterns or math
37:48 concepts that are visualized with with
37:52 cool light. This is super cool.
37:59 Iterative dynamics. Colets. Oh, yeah.
38:01 The old iterative dynamics. You know,
38:03 when I studied iterative dynamics in
38:05 acting school, uh we did a lot of uh
38:08 collat uh theorems, we worked those out
38:11 a lot. [laughter]
38:15 Algebraic geometry. I you know, if I get
38:18 one more A in algebraic geometry, that
38:20 would be one.
38:23 All right, let's see. What's this one?
38:25 Lock discoveries. I'm telling Pate.
38:28 Don't tell Pate that I'm making fun of
38:31 math people.
38:32 >> [laughter]
38:35 >> Oh, the diiaphantine equations. Man, if
38:38 I had a nickel for every diaph equation
38:41 I solved, I would still be broke. Prime
38:44 patterns.
38:46 Um, these are cool. These are beautiful.
38:53 Wow.
38:55 Huh.
38:58 I think this is just we when I see stuff
39:00 like this. [laughter]
39:03 I'll tell you I'll tell you how ignorant
39:05 I am with math. I see stuff like this
39:07 and I'm like they just making this [ __ ]
39:10 up. That this isn't real. No one does
39:14 this. The those movies where they write
39:16 [ __ ] on the board, Matt Damon writing in
39:19 the hallway, that's not real.
39:23 [sighs]
39:23 That's a whole another life I get to
39:25 explore. I'll I'll deal with that next
39:28 time around. [laughter]
39:33 Oh man. Let's see. Oh, Joy Joy Pertie is
39:37 going to be on a podcast tomorrow. Oh,
39:39 with Ken Wisman. That's great. Cool.
39:43 Beautiful. Yeah, if you can put that in
39:44 the uh put that in the uh thing.
39:47 We're talking about the maths. Al
39:50 although I listen I don't know if you
39:52 know this um but I am a polymath.
39:56 I thought for years a polymath was
39:59 someone like Weaver who knew about
40:01 theorems and [ __ ] and you know numbers
40:04 to the power of numbers and letters and
40:06 things.
40:08 That's not what it is. A polymath is
40:10 someone who's good at many things. Maths
40:13 means many things.
40:16 Um, and uh, so I'm a polymath even
40:19 though I'm horrible at math. [laughter]
40:21 That makes me It's one of the one of the
40:23 things that made me happy in 2025 was I
40:26 discovered that I'm a polymath.
40:28 Um, what about these ads that claim to
40:30 learn AI in 15 minutes a day and become
40:34 a millionaire? Oh, that's this.
40:36 >> You can make money with
40:38 >> Okay, so Stephen, great question. Thank
40:41 you for asking that question.
40:45 Um,
40:48 I just talked to I don't know if you're
40:50 here earlier. I was talking about on
40:52 Stack Overflow the the the traffic on a
40:56 site that was about asking experts their
40:59 opinions on how to solve problems has
41:01 basically fallen off a cliff. It it no
41:04 one's using it anymore. Like no one's
41:05 using it because everyone can ask chat
41:07 GBT to answer their questions. They
41:10 don't have to ask other other
41:11 programmers. Um, that's gonna that's
41:14 going to happen for everything. So, so
41:15 there's a thing that's going on is one
41:19 of the things that those sleazy
41:22 marketing people and I really do think
41:23 they are sleazy. 15 minutes a day
41:26 practicing AI, you can bring money.
41:32 Why it's [ __ ]
41:35 I mean, there's a couple of reasons it's
41:36 [ __ ] One of the reasons it's
41:38 [ __ ] is that everybody who
41:41 experiences AI for the first time, they
41:44 realize, "Oh my god, it's remarkable. I
41:48 can do all this stuff that I couldn't do
41:50 before." So, what I'm going to do is I'm
41:52 going to tell people, I can now do all
41:54 this stuff. And then they wonder why the
41:57 phone doesn't ring because everyone's
42:00 having that exact same epiphany at the
42:01 same time. Oh my god, I can do all this
42:03 stuff. I'm going to tell people I can do
42:05 all this stuff. and everyone else is
42:06 just going and asking Chat GPT for that
42:09 help. They're not asking other people.
42:11 So that's one of the problems.
42:14 The second problem
42:15 >> you can make money with
42:17 >> these [ __ ]
42:22 is that
42:24 people don't pay you money
42:27 because you can use AI.
42:30 They don't pay you money because you can
42:32 use Photoshop. They don't pay you money
42:35 because you know how to use a shovel.
42:39 They pay you money because they need a
42:41 hole
42:43 and you happen to know how to use a
42:45 shovel and have one and are willing to
42:48 do the work to dig them a hole, right?
42:52 You hire someone because you need
42:54 pictures edited and refined and made
42:57 more beautiful.
42:59 And so the fact that they can use
43:01 Photoshop is secondary to the problem
43:03 that they're solving. It's the exact
43:05 same thing with AI. How you make money
43:07 with AI
43:10 is you take things that you're good at,
43:12 things that you're passionate about,
43:14 things where you know there's a problem
43:15 to be solved
43:18 and then you can either tell them you're
43:20 using AI or not. It doesn't [ __ ]
43:23 matter if you use AI. Like let's say
43:26 that you're you're really passionate
43:28 about rewriting um
43:31 restaurant menus that that you one of
43:34 your passions in life is you think
43:36 restaurant menus suck and they should be
43:37 entertaining and so you go in and you
43:40 say I'm going to make your menu
43:42 entertaining and and you know it's going
43:45 to raise your you know your ticket price
43:47 by 15%.
43:49 You know it's it's all about the
43:50 desserts. We're going to we're going to
43:51 feature the desserts in this crazy way.
43:54 and they're like, "Okay, I want to I
43:56 want more money and yeah, our menu is
43:58 really boring. I I'd like to see what
44:00 you do with it." Whether you go off and
44:03 manually rewrite their menu or you use
44:05 chat GPT to do that, I think that's
44:07 irrelevant to to the conversation. If
44:10 you can do it well and fast and for less
44:14 money than they give you, then you've
44:16 made money, right?
44:19 So that's so my my philosophy on how you
44:22 make money with chat GPT is how you make
44:24 money with a shovel. You find a problem
44:26 and you solve it. And if you solve it in
44:28 a way either cheaper, better or faster
44:31 than someone else can,
44:34 then you'll make money. And with AI, the
44:36 promise of AI is that you can solve it
44:39 faster, better, and cheaper.
44:42 Right? It used to be you've got these
44:45 three things. Pick any two, right? You
44:47 can have it faster and better. Wait, you
44:49 can have it You can have it wait slower.
44:52 I don't whatever it is. I forget
44:54 [laughter] how I forget all the math of
44:56 that. But faster, better, cheaper. You
44:58 can now do all three. Quality, price,
45:00 and time. Yeah, exactly. Um, it used to
45:03 be that if you wanted it better, it
45:05 would take longer. Now it can be better
45:07 and fast and cheap. So, good, fast,
45:10 cheap. Yeah, exactly.
45:12 If there was a problem, yo, I'll solve
45:14 it. Yeah. I I mean that's that's the
45:16 thing. Some people are just problem
45:17 solvers and they make money because
45:19 they're like in any situation they're
45:20 like I can help you solve that. Now with
45:22 AI you can do that. So the the purpose
45:25 of the 15 minutes a day that I actually
45:27 agree with, right? Have a daily
45:29 practice. Jim Jim Ross sets his timer
45:32 for an hour. I've now decided to make
45:34 these sessions um a place where I can
45:38 practice my AI stuff on my projects.
45:41 Although tonight we haven't gotten there
45:42 yet.
45:44 >> [laughter]
45:45 >> All right, we're going to do Joyy's
45:47 video. Um, who's this from? This is from
45:50 Archetypal Architect. The fractal
45:51 architecture of consciousness. Let's go
45:53 look at this quick.
45:55 The foundation of being, microbial life,
45:58 sentient species, the rise of narrative.
46:00 Oh, this is cool. Augmented and creative
46:03 minds, digital gods, the fractal
46:05 pattern.
46:08 Let's see. Ecological networks. The con
46:13 mimemetic life forms transcending
46:14 biology. The Odin mind
46:17 known digital gods.
46:20 No layer is better. Each is simply less
46:22 blind than the one below it. That's
46:24 cool. Beautiful. All right, let's see.
46:28 Joy Pertie's video for homework. I
46:30 decided to remake this 40 secondond
46:32 video each year to track how AI models
46:36 evolve and how I grow as a filmmaker.
46:38 How cool is that? Mind your tabs. Am I
46:41 on the wrong Oh, yeah. Okay.
46:44 Mind it right now. Boom. It jump.
46:50 This is Joy Party.
46:53 Well, I remember this. I think I've seen
46:55 this. I I saw an earlier version of this
46:57 book.
47:29 Wow, that's super cool, man. AI is
47:33 getting so good, man. It really is.
47:48 So cool. Archetypal. That's what my
47:49 novel's all about. Oh, that's super cool
47:53 that your novel's all about.
47:55 [clears throat] Oh, now I know why it's
47:57 a a pile of pages. This is This is the
48:00 uh this is the plot of your novel.
48:03 [laughter]
48:05 It It's going to be a thick one. Yeah.
48:07 It's It's It's a thicker It's a thicker
48:10 book. It It's going to It's going to
48:12 take you a while. Yeah. Yeah. It's No,
48:15 it's it's a There's a lot there. It's
48:18 It's pretty much all the answers of the
48:20 universe. Well, all the questions and
48:22 then detailed answers of each one. Yeah.
48:26 Simple. [laughter]
48:29 Read the caption. Which caption?
48:32 [clears throat]
48:33 Book one is 850 pages. Wow. Amazing.
48:38 Okay.
48:39 Scroll up just a little. Oh, wait.
48:48 Oh, I see up here.
48:53 Since I first since I published the
48:55 first book of the novel series I've been
48:57 writing for several years, I had
48:59 notebook LM whip me up an infographic
49:01 that explores my fractal plot lines.
49:04 This one focuses on how evolution works
49:06 at many layers of existence. Wow,
49:10 cool.
49:13 You know, even with AI, this makes my
49:15 head hurt. [laughter]
49:19 It actually doesn't. It's actually
49:21 pretty it's it's pretty clear. It's
49:22 quite beautiful. I I I always admire
49:26 people that can take a big idea and and
49:28 follow it follow it forward. I suppose
49:31 I'm doing that a little bit with Sydney
49:33 with the musical. Um it's one of the
49:36 reasons I like having a partner is that
49:38 is that you can maintain momentum. I
49:40 feel like you archetypal are good at
49:42 doing this on your own, which is
49:43 amazing. The answer is 42. Imagine me
49:47 trying to keep it all straight. Um, way
49:50 past where the AI loses track. Oh my
49:52 god. I Yeah, like the the lack of the
49:57 the the context window problem where
50:00 where with large context windows, it
50:03 gets confused in the middle of of the
50:06 context window. I bet this was an
50:07 absolute nightmare to deal with.
50:11 Fascinating. Cool. Okay. So, anyway, so
50:13 where this is, we're over at the AI
50:15 salon and uh in uh if you come over here
50:18 and join, there's like four little
50:19 things to get started. The second one is
50:21 introduce yourself. You should do that.
50:23 You should look at our values of the
50:25 community. Um and then there's there's,
50:27 you know, events and community feed, and
50:29 then there's little different areas,
50:30 play and create, learn and grow, and
50:32 then advocacy and policy and and
50:34 partnership and things like that. So,
50:36 lots of things to do here. Um lots of
50:39 amazing people. So, go do that.
50:42 Okay,
50:44 [sighs]
50:46 notion.
50:48 Here we are, people.
50:52 We're here. So, let me orient you.
50:57 So, with the help I'm going to get rid
50:59 of this. Let's see. Move that to trash.
51:02 Okay. With the help of
51:06 Vicki, I'm still at the salon. Oh, I
51:08 gotta share a different hold, please.
51:15 >> [panting]
51:19 >> Okay, with the help of Vicki,
51:22 I set up a notion board where I've got
51:24 business areas and these are sort of my
51:27 higher level containers. So, I've got
51:30 Story Vine, I've got the Practice Engine
51:32 LLC, I've got the AI salon, I've got
51:35 Content Evolution, um I've got Kyle
51:38 Shannon Media. So, my writing projects
51:40 and things like that. And then
51:42 underneath these I have projects,
51:48 right? And so they sit inside. Well, I
51:51 only have two of them. So, part of the
51:53 work we're doing today is is populating
51:57 this. And so, I have an idea.
52:00 So, one of the cool things about Notion
52:03 now is that it's got this little dude at
52:06 the bottom.
52:07 this dude right here. And I What did I
52:10 name mine? I forget what I named him,
52:13 [laughter] but whatever. Doesn't matter.
52:17 Merlin or something stupid. Tik Tok pin.
52:20 You can do do it, Kyle. Deep breath. I
52:22 know. Jesus. I I I don't I so don't want
52:25 to be doing this. I so don't want to be
52:27 doing this.
52:29 [sighs]
52:30 DQ Blizzard. I'm over here now so I can
52:33 Harry. I called him Harry. That's right.
52:35 Thank you, Vicki. my second brain who
52:37 helped me set up notion also remembers
52:39 the name of my little AI dude Harry. So
52:42 Harry um you can ask him to do stuff for
52:46 you. So here's my idea.
52:49 My idea is rather than here's what I
52:51 would normally do pre- AAI days is I
52:55 would go up to this level. I would go to
52:57 my business areas and I'd look at these
53:00 and then I would go to my
53:04 finder
53:06 where I have these folders
53:11 and I got to do date modified and so
53:13 here they are all are at the top and so
53:16 I've got the AI salon I've got um which
53:20 I think is just a a hyperlink
53:24 a a reference to a another Google Drive
53:28 folder. Let's see. Start simple.
53:31 Is notion a website builder or an app on
53:34 my computer?
53:36 You
53:38 Vicki can answer that. I have no idea. I
53:42 know that notion is a relational
53:44 database. I know that it is what I'm
53:47 building right now is a fancy to-do
53:49 list, which I've already vibe coded a a
53:53 uh a project tracker to-do list thing.
53:56 So, there's a part of me that's wanting
53:58 to resist this because um
54:01 because I've already done this work and
54:03 I don't use that thing as much as I
54:04 should, but you know, whatever. Okay,
54:08 let's see. So, what I'm going to do
54:12 is I'm going to open these folders.
54:17 Going to close
54:19 any subfolders.
54:25 That one I'm going to leave closed.
54:34 Okay. [clears throat]
54:38 experiments I'm not going to worry about
54:40 right now,
54:42 but music I will.
54:47 Okay. So, I So, what I'm going to do is
54:48 this. I'm going to go
54:51 I'm going to screenshot this. I don't
54:53 know if you can see my little screenshot
54:54 window, but I've got a screenshot
54:55 window. So, I'm going to screenshot this
55:01 and I'm going to go to chat JPT
55:09 and I'm going to say create me a
55:14 [clears throat]
55:16 um
55:18 an outline
55:21 where
55:23 the top levels are the
55:28 business areas and the
55:33 subfolders
55:36 are projects.
55:38 Um, ignore
55:43 stand
55:46 alone
55:48 documents.
55:52 If they do not if they don't seem like
55:57 projects
56:00 [sighs and snorts]
56:01 I don't like this. Why why go to chat
56:04 GBT when you give give it to the notion
56:06 agent? Oh, I'll just shut up and watch.
56:21 Uh, let's try to do this in notion.
56:24 Okay.
56:26 So, I'm gonna Hey, Harry. I'm going to
56:28 paste in that thing for Harry. Did it
56:31 paste it in
56:33 image.
56:35 You've run out of free responses.
56:38 [laughter]
56:44 Vicki, this is the point where I
56:46 normally go great, [ __ ] it, and leave.
56:50 >> [laughter]
56:51 >> Oh my god. Okay, so I got to pay for it.
56:54 So I got to write a check. Shot collar.
56:57 Where's the damn shot caller?
57:02 Why is my mouth dry?
57:06 [sighs]
57:08 24 bucks a month.
57:13 All right. Thank you, Brandon.
57:17 Is this worth 24 bucks a month? Tom Tom
57:20 Nler laughing his ass off. [laughter]
57:24 [gasps]
57:25 Kelly Kelly, tell me it's worth it. It's
57:29 called Notion Anxiety.
57:32 I'm waiting for I'm waiting for Kelly
57:35 Camp to say it's worth 24 bucks a month.
57:38 I know, Vicki. I know it's worth it to
57:40 you, but you you've got skills that I
57:42 don't like. Like Like what's that one
57:45 called? Follow through. Oh, Kelly's
57:49 Kelly's gone silent on me. I'm on my own
57:51 here. All right, I think I'm going to do
57:53 it.
57:55 [sighs and gasps]
58:01 Just ask Harry for help. Is it worth it
58:04 not to? Well, I'm still going to have to
58:06 learn. You will acquire said skills. I
58:09 know. I know. I know. I know. Okay.
58:12 Everybody calm down. Everybody calm
58:15 down. This is not about you. [laughter]
58:19 Please agree to the terms of service.
58:22 How about you bite my butt? Okay. Use
58:24 your saved information.
58:29 Okay.
58:33 Vicky costs more than $24 a month.
58:36 That's true. [laughter]
58:38 Okay. I'm getting out of credit card.
58:40 I'm doing it. Oh my god, people.
58:45 >> [sighs]
58:46 >> just I I ache [laughter]
58:50 [clears throat]
58:51 [sighs]
58:53 and for whatever reason Notion can't
58:55 access any of my saved credit cards on
58:58 my machine. I'm having to manually type
59:00 everything in. This is every fiber of my
59:03 being is screaming run. Do not do this.
59:07 which is probably the this this is one
59:09 of the things that Liz Miller Gersfeld
59:12 talks about in our in our uh AI salon
59:15 mastermind practice lab is that you know
59:19 those things that are confronting to you
59:21 those things where there's upset and
59:23 angst there's generally gold on the
59:25 other side of that so yes thank you Liz
59:29 in my thank you Liz in my mind
59:32 [laughter]
59:36 Shannon's gonna make you sleep in the
59:38 garage tonight.
59:40 Oh my god. [laughter] I am following my
59:43 own advice and just going monthly.
59:52 All right, I think I'm almost there.
59:53 Brandon, [snorts]
59:55 wait. Hang on a sec. Plan. Okay.
59:59 Upcoming invoice.
1:00:02 Edit method. Okay, we're going. Welcome
1:00:04 to Notion.
1:00:07 All right,
1:00:10 back to
1:00:14 Does that have Okay, so wait, I'm in
1:00:17 business area. So, let me go up a layer.
1:00:21 So, I've got the image. Okay. Um,
1:00:25 here is an image
1:00:28 of my directories for my
1:00:34 business areas
1:00:37 and then projects
1:00:40 underneath them. By the way, the answer
1:00:42 to your question, Vicki, about why do I
1:00:45 go to chat GBT when I could just do it
1:00:47 in notion
1:00:49 is
1:00:51 I think it's basically just old guy
1:00:53 behavior or it's just maybe it's add
1:00:55 behavior where it's like
1:00:58 I know how to use
1:01:01 I know how to use chat GPT well enough
1:01:03 to to know predictably what it's going
1:01:06 to give me. And so if I know I need I
1:01:08 want a certain kind of input for some
1:01:10 other tool like one of the things that
1:01:13 frustrates me madly is I come to notion
1:01:16 to try this and then it isn't as good as
1:01:19 chatb and then then that drives me
1:01:21 crazy. So I tend to just use the tools
1:01:24 that I know which I know kind of flies
1:01:27 in the face of play with purpose but I'm
1:01:32 also just a dude. Okay. Muscle memory.
1:01:34 Yeah. Exactly. Um, where you are doesn't
1:01:37 matter as long as you tell it where to
1:01:38 put it. Okay, so let's see. Here's an
1:01:41 image of my directories for my business
1:01:43 areas and then projects underneath each
1:01:45 of them.
1:01:47 Um, there are some
1:01:52 stand alone docs that are not projects.
1:02:00 You can ignore them.
1:02:03 Um,
1:02:05 I want you to
1:02:11 modify
1:02:12 my business
1:02:16 areas and
1:02:18 projects
1:02:20 here to match
1:02:23 the hierarchy
1:02:27 higher
1:02:29 key
1:02:31 in the image.
1:02:33 All right.
1:02:34 Come on, Harry. Do me proud.
1:02:39 Oh, don't forget to say put them in the
1:02:41 project database. I didn't say that, but
1:02:43 it said something about databases. I
1:02:45 think I I saw.
1:02:50 Let's see how good Harry is, even
1:02:51 without my [laughter]
1:02:54 my Vicky recommended
1:02:56 specifics.
1:02:59 [clears throat]
1:03:03 Now you have a set calendar event to
1:03:05 cancel if you don't like it. Oh, that
1:03:08 would be so Mimi, that's really good.
1:03:10 That would be that would be a
1:03:12 responsible
1:03:14 um
1:03:16 practice like act. I think that's a
1:03:20 really good idea. That's a really good
1:03:21 idea. Okay, we're going to do that. In
1:03:24 fact, while Harry is crafting my notion,
1:03:28 let's go over to my calendar.
1:03:34 And this is Janu. So, wait, what's
1:03:35 today? Today is the 5th. So, I'm going
1:03:38 to go to February 4th.
1:03:44 And in the middle of the day, I'm going
1:03:47 to say
1:03:49 um cancel
1:03:52 notion
1:03:54 subscription
1:03:58 if you are not using it. Exclamation
1:04:01 point. Boom. Look at me acting like a
1:04:06 [ __ ] adult. [laughter]
1:04:11 I just tell Siri to do it for me. I have
1:04:14 so not used Siri. Siri I I've got I've
1:04:17 got Apple PTSD where I've been with
1:04:19 Apple long enough that I remember when
1:04:21 they used to be good and and that pretty
1:04:24 much ended when Steve Jobs died. And so
1:04:26 I've just been in a state of uh of
1:04:29 denial and and conscientious objector
1:04:33 ever since.
1:04:35 Okay. Does it say crafting? crapping or
1:04:38 crashing. Uh, crafting. Okay. Wait. Oh,
1:04:41 wait. Wait. What's going on here? It's
1:04:43 doing something.
1:04:48 What I changed? I renamed Oh, this is
1:04:50 cool. I renamed the business areas to
1:04:53 match the folder names. AI salon, KS
1:04:55 Writer, KS Finances,
1:04:57 KSAI Consulting, KS Monetizable
1:05:00 Projects. I created the missing business
1:05:03 areas of KS keynotes, speaking and
1:05:05 podcast appearances and KS music. I
1:05:08 updated the project to business
1:05:10 assignment areas where I could.
1:05:15 What's still missing? Your screenshot
1:05:17 shows additional project folders like AI
1:05:19 selling story vine and but those
1:05:21 projects do not currently exist as pages
1:05:23 in your project. Um yes. Yes. Create the
1:05:28 missing projects
1:05:31 in the project
1:05:34 database and ass and associate
1:05:42 associate
1:05:44 with
1:05:46 the
1:05:49 right business area. Okay.
1:05:54 So Harry said he did the work and now
1:05:56 Harry's gonna finish the work.
1:05:59 Serious crap now. [laughter]
1:06:05 So old guy behavior. Yes. Old guy
1:06:07 behavior is why I went to chat GBT. Now
1:06:10 listen,
1:06:11 if this actually does this
1:06:16 this this is one of those dopamine
1:06:18 moments where I'm going to continue
1:06:20 forward. Okay,
1:06:22 let's see. created and linked projects
1:06:24 under KS monetizable projects CE
1:06:27 collabad workshop storyline selling AI
1:06:30 festivist AI readiness training program
1:06:32 under KS keynote AI podcast under KS
1:06:35 writer feed
1:06:38 okay so in theory
1:06:42 we're going to go to business areas
1:06:46 and here's the things
1:06:50 oh you know what we're going to do we're
1:06:51 going to have Harry's going to help us
1:06:54 put appropriate emojis before before
1:06:57 [laughter] the other business areas.
1:06:59 I'm going to say, "Hey, Harry. Um, let's
1:07:02 see. Music and uh KS keynotes
1:07:10 have
1:07:13 fun emojis.
1:07:16 Make appropriate
1:07:19 emoji.
1:07:22 Emojis.
1:07:23 How do you spell emoji? Emo. Shut up.
1:07:26 Shut up.
1:07:28 He doesn't even know how to spell emoji.
1:07:30 I went on this thing called the AI
1:07:32 learning lab and
1:07:34 [snorts] I I thought I was expecting to
1:07:36 learn something and then but he didn't
1:07:38 even know how to spell emojis. It was
1:07:41 very concerning to me. All right. Make
1:07:43 appropriate emojis for the boring ones
1:07:48 [laughter]
1:07:49 icons. Kyle icons. Well, but they are
1:07:52 emojis.
1:07:54 Um, it puts the right icons in my
1:07:56 recipes. Love it.
1:08:00 [clears throat]
1:08:01 If you're new here, if you're trying to
1:08:02 figure out what the hell is going on,
1:08:06 this is the AI learning lab. I am using
1:08:09 this time to work on some personal stuff
1:08:12 that is stuff that like on a daily
1:08:15 basis. I want to be making progress
1:08:18 using AI to move my projects forward.
1:08:21 Um, and I want to do it like a practice.
1:08:23 And part of doing it like a practice
1:08:24 means doing stuff that feels distaste
1:08:28 justful.
1:08:30 [laughter]
1:08:33 [gasps] Okay. So now I've got consulting
1:08:35 is a handshake. Finances is a bag of
1:08:38 money. That's good. Keynotes is a is a
1:08:40 microphone. Monetizable projects is a
1:08:44 rocket. Music is music. Writer's
1:08:46 writing. And AI salon is a magic wand.
1:08:51 Um, AI salon is a community.
1:08:58 While
1:09:00 while I like the wand,
1:09:04 is there something better?
1:09:08 Help me, Harry. Help me. Help me, Harry.
1:09:13 [laughter]
1:09:15 I like the brain.
1:09:18 Oh, a martini for the salon vibe. Let's
1:09:22 go martini. Let's go martini.
1:09:26 Okay. Beautiful.
1:09:33 Done. And there it is. Done. Martini,
1:09:36 right? Okay. So, that's good.
1:09:39 [gasps] And then by theme.
1:09:44 Ah,
1:09:47 okay. So, now
1:09:51 my theme.
1:09:54 Does this have themes?
1:09:56 Yes.
1:09:59 Okay. So, we're gonna have Okay. So, so
1:10:01 what we set up here, what what Vicki
1:10:03 helped me set up was
1:10:06 here's our business areas.
1:10:09 I don't think we need status here
1:10:12 because these are business areas. So,
1:10:14 we're not going to have status. So,
1:10:15 status is not right. So, so Harry
1:10:19 remove
1:10:21 the status column.
1:10:26 Um, since these
1:10:31 [laughter] Let's use a martini since Hot
1:10:34 Pockets is not an emoji. That's good.
1:10:36 Okay. Remove the status column since
1:10:39 these are business areas,
1:10:43 not projects.
1:10:46 Um,
1:10:49 also I want you to take
1:10:53 a crack
1:10:54 at assigning
1:11:03 the correct theme for each business
1:11:08 area.
1:11:13 I might not need bit. I might not need
1:11:15 themes at this level either, but that's
1:11:17 okay. Let's see what it can do. Okay, so
1:11:21 Harry is gonna
1:11:23 Harry's going to help us get rid of that
1:11:25 column. I We probably don't need an
1:11:28 owner column.
1:11:31 Dates. We might need dates. I think
1:11:33 dates could be important. Yeah, dates is
1:11:35 really important. Like AI Festivus.
1:11:38 Well, AI Festivus is inside one of
1:11:39 these. Maybe it's not as important.
1:11:41 Okay. Priority and then theme.
1:11:45 All right. So, it hasn't done anything
1:11:47 with themes yet.
1:11:51 It's cooking.
1:12:00 Look, we no longer have status. That's
1:12:02 gone. I removed status.
1:12:07 It assigned themes. Let's see. Oh, look.
1:12:10 Look how cool that is. All right, Vicky
1:12:13 and Kelly and whoever the if Cindy
1:12:16 Coon's in here, you freaky people that
1:12:20 are like, I love Notion. Notion's great.
1:12:22 You should really try it. All right,
1:12:23 fine. I'm digging it. I'm digging this.
1:12:27 All right, AI, can I move these columns?
1:12:29 I bet I can. I bet I can just drag it,
1:12:31 right? Oh, yeah. Mhm. Yep. You see what
1:12:34 I'm saying there, people?
1:12:36 All right, let's get let's tell Harry um
1:12:39 since I am the only
1:12:43 owner
1:12:45 that column
1:12:50 seems dumb dumb. [laughter]
1:12:57 Let's Let's see if Harry can understand
1:12:59 stupid talk.
1:13:01 Vicki on YouTube.
1:13:04 Enough dopamine.
1:13:07 Getting there. Getting there, Vicki. But
1:13:10 I
1:13:14 I'm still
1:13:16 It's pretty cool. I'm tempted. I know,
1:13:19 Silver Fox. It's not bad. It's not bad.
1:13:22 It's listen, let let me tell you, my
1:13:25 expectations for what I was going to
1:13:27 have to do tonight was to go in and
1:13:29 manually change all the project names
1:13:31 and manually change or the the business
1:13:33 area names, manually change stuff. So,
1:13:36 the fact that it just did it and the
1:13:38 fact that it went on ahead and and gave
1:13:40 me theme suggestions. Wait, did it not?
1:13:43 It didn't understand what I wanted to do
1:13:45 there. Um, or did it? Let's see if it
1:13:47 removed the owner column. No, remove the
1:13:51 owner column.
1:13:57 So Harry Harry doesn't understand stupid
1:13:59 prompts. [laughter]
1:14:07 All right, that's gone.
1:14:09 And then there's priority. I don't even
1:14:11 know that we need that. So AI consulting
1:14:14 is AI amplified marketing.
1:14:18 Finances is monetizable content.
1:14:23 Yeah, that doesn't really fit nicely in
1:14:25 a theme, does it? AI salon people
1:14:28 centered project management. Yeah, these
1:14:30 don't really fit.
1:14:32 All right. So, I'll have to I'll I'll
1:14:34 have to deal with that. Okay. Now, let's
1:14:36 go look at projects. So, if I go where'd
1:14:40 I go? Go back to my control board. Oh,
1:14:42 Vicki, I have a question. How
1:14:46 these are all sort of
1:14:49 [sighs and gasps]
1:14:53 like projects is way down here at the
1:14:55 bottom like how this page is laid out
1:14:57 sucks
1:15:00 cuz I kind of want to see the hierarchy
1:15:02 like here's business areas and then
1:15:04 there's projects below that. Can I drag
1:15:07 this up here
1:15:09 like to here? Yes. Okay, fine.
1:15:14 Fine.
1:15:16 [laughter]
1:15:16 Tell Harry to fix the page layout. Um,
1:15:19 okay.
1:15:21 Harry,
1:15:24 the page layout
1:15:28 here
1:15:30 kind of sucks and is unintuitive.
1:15:37 Can you
1:15:39 help
1:15:42 me make it better? I am purposely
1:15:44 putting in a shitty prompt
1:15:47 because
1:15:51 we're all going to do shitty prompts and
1:15:53 so I'll I'll do the shittiest prompts
1:15:55 and then you can do Wait, what did it
1:15:58 What did it do? [laughter]
1:16:05 What? What's it doing?
1:16:09 It's doing all sorts of [ __ ] I abs
1:16:12 Absolutely. I reorganized the control
1:16:15 board.
1:16:18 Do next today.
1:16:22 And then I've got business areas. Here's
1:16:24 the projects I'm working on.
1:16:29 Well, this is kind of cool.
1:16:36 Um,
1:16:39 oh yeah, there's the business area
1:16:42 and I can sort by business area. Yeah,
1:16:47 to-do
1:16:50 in progress to-do complete. So, let's
1:16:53 see. Some of these are complete.
1:16:56 Okay, so wait. So, like the Kai Health
1:16:58 video is complete.
1:17:01 Um,
1:17:03 AI Festivus is complete. Although
1:17:05 there's stuff to do for Festivus.
1:17:08 Um,
1:17:12 in progress to do is not a category
1:17:16 here.
1:17:18 Vibe project [laughter] man Harry Eagles
1:17:20 vibe project management. That's pretty
1:17:22 good.
1:17:23 Um,
1:17:25 this one's complete.
1:17:29 CE collab story selling and futures book
1:17:33 project is complete.
1:17:42 Fetty is complete.
1:17:46 Okay. So, I'm going to say Harry.
1:17:51 This is great. This
1:17:55 is great. Um, but don't show me
1:18:02 complete
1:18:08 projects
1:18:12 and
1:18:23 PI let's see primary
1:18:28 sort should be on
1:18:33 business area
1:18:35 and then
1:18:39 alpha
1:18:46 for projects
1:18:51 in each biz
1:18:54 area. Okay.
1:18:58 So, I'm starting to I'm starting to No,
1:19:02 I'm not starting to get religion on
1:19:04 this. I'm starting to see that.
1:19:09 Okay. Here's what's really good about
1:19:11 this. Here's what's really good about
1:19:13 this.
1:19:15 One of the things that prevents me like
1:19:19 in in in my business in StoryVine, we
1:19:22 use Trello and someone who's good at
1:19:25 project management set up the Trello,
1:19:28 you [clears throat] know, workflow and
1:19:29 it's changed over the years and things
1:19:31 like that. But when I'm setting these
1:19:33 things up myself,
1:19:35 one of the things that drives me [ __ ]
1:19:37 insane
1:19:39 is I'll put together a structure and
1:19:43 then I'll start working with it and
1:19:45 realize that that structure doesn't
1:19:46 work. And then what I have to do is I
1:19:48 have to go, "Oh god." And I go to a
1:19:50 whiteboard and I'm like, "What order
1:19:53 should it be in? What should I do?" And
1:19:54 then I kind of have to map. What do I
1:19:56 need to undo? What do I need to rename?
1:19:58 what I need to and and then it just some
1:20:00 point I just abandon it because I don't
1:20:02 feel like doing that shitty work which
1:20:04 that's something I'm working on as a
1:20:06 human to just do the shitty work but
1:20:09 also if if a tool like this can do the
1:20:12 shitty work of like I have a new idea
1:20:15 for how I want to organize this I can
1:20:16 just tell it that's pretty cool that I
1:20:18 like that I'm digging Kyle thank you for
1:20:20 [laughter] everything you do you give me
1:20:22 the confidence to go
1:20:25 all all in on AI Hi, that's awesome,
1:20:28 Victor. Um, thank you. And in fact, I'm
1:20:31 going to I'm So, I'm trying to do
1:20:32 something here.
1:20:35 I am trying I am work working
1:20:38 [clears throat]
1:20:39 excuse me. I'm working really hard
1:20:44 to really take in acknowledgements.
1:20:49 Um,
1:20:50 I've had a fair amount of breakthroughs
1:20:53 in the past month or so. And one of the
1:20:55 things that I realized is that
1:20:58 because I have historically
1:21:00 disassociated myself from the things
1:21:03 I've created, I'm sitting in the, you
1:21:05 know, in the in the back seat, not
1:21:07 driving.
1:21:08 Um
1:21:11 I
1:21:13 I'm disassociated from the feedback that
1:21:17 I get from you all which is often and
1:21:20 it's quite generous and
1:21:23 it struck me how shitty and unfair it is
1:21:27 to all of you when you say nice things
1:21:29 to me that I don't actually take it in.
1:21:31 So So I just screenshotted that. So let
1:21:33 me show you something cool.
1:21:35 Um, I've now got I've got myself a
1:21:38 journal um for my daily practice and for
1:21:42 some coaching work I'm doing. And then I
1:21:45 have this I bought myself this really
1:21:47 cool
1:21:48 Japanese toolbox
1:21:52 and I'm just going to fill it like Cindy
1:21:54 [ __ ] has her bucket of um Post-it notes
1:21:58 that are [ __ ] she got done. This is
1:22:00 going to be filled with printed out or
1:22:03 handwritten acknowledgements that I get
1:22:05 from people. Um, and I'm gonna [ __ ]
1:22:08 fill this thing up. So, anyway, so thank
1:22:11 you for that.
1:22:13 I still get that. Good for you, Kyle.
1:22:15 Yeah, I know, right, Corey. It's like
1:22:16 I'm I'm sure you've got, you know, a
1:22:19 similar sort of thing where where you
1:22:20 get all sorts of acknowledgement and,
1:22:22 you know, if you're anything like me,
1:22:24 like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get to
1:22:25 that. No, that's good. Thanks. Thanks.
1:22:27 That's terrific. I'm glad I, you know,
1:22:29 did that for you. That's great. I'm
1:22:31 going to I'm going to go make a pot now.
1:22:33 Um, [laughter]
1:22:34 so, so I totally get it. Okay, done.
1:22:38 Your project's view now hides anything
1:22:40 where it's status complete. Sorts by
1:22:43 business area first, then a toz within
1:22:44 each area. So, Harry understood what I
1:22:46 asked for. Now, let's go see if Harry
1:22:47 did it right. Let's close Harry. Oh,
1:22:50 look at that. That's so cool.
1:22:54 Keynote speaking. Okay. And so now, so
1:22:56 AI podcast. So I So now I need to Okay.
1:23:00 under keynotes. Uh under
1:23:03 keynotes, add a project
1:23:07 for
1:23:10 write
1:23:12 a keynote
1:23:16 presentation
1:23:19 as well as
1:23:22 um a project for
1:23:27 uh
1:23:29 [snorts] speakers bureau. Euros
1:23:35 spelled wrong, but it'll figure it out.
1:23:41 Okay, I think I'm digging this. I think
1:23:43 I'm digging this. Look how fast that was
1:23:46 just done. Like, okay. Okay, so look
1:23:49 people.
1:23:51 So, normally what I would have to do is
1:23:55 I would have to add a new page and then
1:23:58 it would it would add a thing and then I
1:24:00 would have to type stuff in and then I
1:24:01 would have to manually connect it to to
1:24:03 one of the business areas.
1:24:07 All right. Oh, I spelled it correctly. I
1:24:10 I inadvertently spelled bureaus
1:24:12 correctly. [laughter] That's good.
1:24:15 And then for any one of these I can
1:24:16 open. I still don't know what what to do
1:24:18 with these when they're open. Okay. And
1:24:20 then this status of to-do is wrong. So,
1:24:22 so status, what would be the status? Um,
1:24:30 so this is project status.
1:24:33 Project status. Project status.
1:24:38 Um,
1:24:41 oh, I know what I'm going to do. I'm
1:24:44 going to do EOS.
1:24:46 Okay. For project
1:24:52 for project status.
1:24:56 I want them to be
1:25:03 just starting
1:25:08 off track
1:25:13 on track
1:25:17 complete.
1:25:26 Change
1:25:28 anything
1:25:30 that is currently
1:25:40 in progress or to-do.
1:25:44 It's currently
1:25:47 in progress
1:25:51 or to-do.
1:26:00 We'll just start with on track
1:26:05 also.
1:26:07 On track
1:26:09 should be green.
1:26:15 Off track
1:26:18 should be yellow.
1:26:21 Um,
1:26:23 complete should be I don't know purple
1:26:28 and
1:26:30 just starting
1:26:32 should be
1:26:35 blue.
1:26:39 Um,
1:26:43 I also think we need a
1:26:53 status
1:26:55 called
1:26:57 um
1:27:02 [snorts]
1:27:05 um [ __ ] show on fire. Um,
1:27:11 okay. We'll call it [ __ ] show for now.
1:27:15 [ __ ] show. Um, that is red
1:27:21 for when a project
1:27:25 is in major
1:27:29 need of attention.
1:27:32 Okay.
1:27:34 Dumpster fire. I think dumpster fire is
1:27:36 better. [laughter] Dumpster fire is
1:27:38 good. Train wreck. Train wreck's not
1:27:40 bad. Dumpster fire is good. Okay, this
1:27:43 is good. I think [ __ ] show's a little
1:27:45 aggressive. I think [ __ ] shows a little
1:27:47 aggressive. Train wreck. I I think I'm
1:27:49 going to go train wreck. Not on hold.
1:27:51 It's not on hold, Kuno. It's This is
1:27:54 projects where it's like, you know those
1:27:57 projects where you just keep ignoring it
1:27:59 and you're like, "This is going to be
1:28:01 bad. This is going to be bad. If I keep
1:28:04 ignoring it, this is gonna be bad. And
1:28:05 then it is. [laughter]
1:28:13 Needs more than a band-aid. Exactly.
1:28:16 [laughter]
1:28:17 It's just a flesh wound.
1:28:24 Okay, let's go look. Do we have Do we
1:28:26 have um Look, everything's on track.
1:28:28 Look how awesome that is. But look, [ __ ]
1:28:31 show. I can make one a [ __ ] show.
1:28:33 [laughter]
1:28:36 That's so good. Just starting. This is
1:28:39 really good. This is really good. Okay,
1:28:42 so let's see. Uh Kai Health video. Okay,
1:28:44 it so this is complete.
1:28:48 Vetti is complete. So Oh, that's cool.
1:28:51 As as soon as I turn it to complete, it
1:28:53 makes it disappear. So it was smart
1:28:55 enough to know to do that. the AI
1:28:57 podcast,
1:28:59 that's going to be a keynote thing. So,
1:29:01 we'll call that one on track. We'll call
1:29:03 that one just starting. Uh speakers
1:29:06 bureaus, that's just starting. Uh write
1:29:10 a keynote presentation just starting.
1:29:12 10-person team workshop on track. I
1:29:15 would call that off track. That needs
1:29:17 attention. That's good. AI festivist on
1:29:20 track.
1:29:23 Launchpad workshop complete. complete
1:29:27 AI readiness training project. I think
1:29:29 that's on track. That's in pretty good
1:29:31 shape right now. CE collab is
1:29:37 that's mostly on track. Storyine selling
1:29:39 is off track. That's something I need to
1:29:42 get working on. So that is yellow. That
1:29:45 this color coding is working for me. I'm
1:29:47 liking this. AI futures is complete.
1:29:52 Feed your prompt. I would call that off
1:29:55 track because I changed the name of the
1:29:57 book again [laughter]
1:30:00 and Sydney is on track. So, this is
1:30:02 good. So, let's go ask Harry. Um, let's
1:30:07 change um
1:30:10 [ __ ] show. [laughter]
1:30:14 I think dumpster fire. Train wreck.
1:30:16 Dumpster. I think dumpster fire because
1:30:18 dumpster fire implies that you got to
1:30:19 put the fire out. two [laughter]
1:30:23 dumpster fire. Okay. All right. All
1:30:28 right. People, listen. For those of you
1:30:32 that are sitting there like, Kyle,
1:30:34 notion sucks. And and you're going to
1:30:36 hate it and you're never going to like
1:30:37 it. I am I am trending toward I think
1:30:42 this could be a very powerful tool. My
1:30:45 my instinct has always been
1:30:48 that this is going to be a nightmare to
1:30:50 set up. It is more of a nightmare than I
1:30:52 thought it would be, but having little
1:30:55 Harry here to just do my work for me,
1:30:57 I'm kind of digging Harry. All right, I
1:31:00 would need some completed stuff to stay
1:31:02 on the list so I can feel the payoff.
1:31:04 Well, don't forget these projects. Like,
1:31:06 I haven't even gotten to the to-do lists
1:31:09 underneath each one of these projects
1:31:11 yet.
1:31:12 Is this a paid version or free version?
1:31:15 Um, it was it was a free version until I
1:31:18 used Harry one too many times. And
1:31:21 [laughter] then and then Harry said,
1:31:23 actually right as I started tonight, I
1:31:25 went to ask Harry if he could reorganize
1:31:27 my projects. And Harry said, "Yeah,
1:31:30 you're gonna Hey, hey, I got a I got an
1:31:32 idea there for you, Kyle. How about
1:31:34 maybe you go [ __ ] yourself?" He didn't.
1:31:36 He Harry did not. He he said, "Unless
1:31:40 I'm giving him money there, he will not
1:31:42 be helping tonight." So, I went and I
1:31:44 forked out the money. And thanks, I
1:31:47 think it was Mimi's suggestion, I went
1:31:49 into my calendar and I made a calendar
1:31:52 event the day before this day next month
1:31:56 and said, "If you're not using motion,
1:31:57 cancel the subscription."
1:32:00 Harry has a damned attitude. He does.
1:32:03 Harry's got a bit of a He's got a bit of
1:32:05 a situation.
1:32:07 Dumpster fire. Love it. Look at that.
1:32:09 That's so good. [laughter]
1:32:11 Dumpster fire. So good. All right.
1:32:16 Okay. Now,
1:32:19 so now I have a container.
1:32:22 Let's see. Team 10erson team workshop.
1:32:26 We've got the keynote up there.
1:32:30 [sighs]
1:32:32 Festivus. We got collab.
1:32:35 Do I have my Oh, I do. Hang on.
1:32:40 Sometimes it's good to have a [ __ ]
1:32:43 shitty messy desk. See this? This This
1:32:48 is my map of all my projects that I did
1:32:52 in
1:32:55 Nano Banana. There's my brain. And then
1:32:58 here's all the projects that came out of
1:33:00 my brain. There's a lot of overlap here,
1:33:02 but I got a lot of [ __ ] going on. So,
1:33:04 let me look at this and see if there's
1:33:07 anything missing for my project.
1:33:09 Storyline mastermind.
1:33:12 Oh, practice engine LLC. Let's see.
1:33:16 Let me go to business areas.
1:33:24 I guess that's under AI salon. Okay,
1:33:28 let's see. Um,
1:33:31 under AI salon,
1:33:36 create a project Tik Tok pin. You need
1:33:40 three days before.
1:33:43 Oh, three days before. Sorry to say
1:33:44 that. Fine. I can fix that. [laughter]
1:33:49 Here, look. Here it is. Here. Cancel
1:33:51 notion subscription. Um, edit.
1:33:55 You want 3 days before? You got three
1:33:58 days before. Boom. Look at that. Done.
1:34:01 We don't screw around here. [laughter]
1:34:06 That was two days before. No, it was on
1:34:09 the 5th and now I made it for the
1:34:11 second. So that's three days before. It
1:34:13 was one day before and I made it two
1:34:14 more. I'm good. I'm good.
1:34:19 Kyle, how about doing emergent
1:34:23 one day vibe code? What?
1:34:27 I don't [laughter] know what that means.
1:34:28 Corey
1:34:32 demoing emergent.
1:34:35 Oh, it's like lovable. Oh,
1:34:39 okay.
1:34:42 I could do that. Well, let me wait. Let
1:34:43 me before I run and do that, I'm gonna
1:34:46 create a project called
1:34:48 um practice
1:34:51 engine.
1:34:54 Um
1:34:58 uh
1:35:00 product
1:35:03 practice engine offering.
1:35:07 Okay,
1:35:09 let me
1:35:11 looking ASL meetings. Okay, learning
1:35:14 lab.
1:35:16 Do I I don't have the learning lab in
1:35:17 here, do I?
1:35:21 And that should go under
1:35:25 I don't know.
1:35:32 Let's call Learning Lab a monetizable
1:35:35 project. We could
1:35:37 Well, this I I make 20 bucks a month on
1:35:40 AI Learning Lab. [laughter]
1:35:44 Occasionally, occasionally something
1:35:46 comes in. All right. Monetizable
1:35:48 projects. Yes. So, we'll put it under
1:35:50 that. Okay. under [clears throat]
1:35:54 monetizable
1:35:56 projects
1:35:57 um
1:36:00 create
1:36:02 project for AI learning
1:36:06 lab. Okay, [clears throat]
1:36:10 [sighs and gasps]
1:36:13 my darn thumbs and autocorrect are
1:36:15 horrors.
1:36:17 [laughter]
1:36:19 It's another vibe coding thing.
1:36:22 All right, beautiful. Vicki, yes. Is
1:36:25 that working well, Kelly?
1:36:28 Hey, Kyle. In solidarity, I'm having
1:36:30 Notion reorganize my entire database. Oh
1:36:33 my gosh, it's Harry Frank's evil twin
1:36:36 twin brother. [laughter]
1:36:41 It's been real fart, folks. But this old
1:36:43 fart has to go to bed. First day of
1:36:45 school for my kids tomorrow, so I'm up
1:36:47 at 5. Oh my god. Sorry about that.
1:36:49 Later. later, Tom. Okay. What time is
1:36:52 it? Oh, it's getting to be time. Um,
1:36:54 okay. Just added. So, let's go back to
1:36:57 control board.
1:36:59 So, our control board has this nice area
1:37:02 now. Look at all my projects, people.
1:37:08 Okay. now.
1:37:12 [panting]
1:37:19 So, let me add something. Okay, I've got
1:37:21 something
1:37:25 under AI podcast
1:37:30 project.
1:37:32 Add a to-do
1:37:38 for
1:37:43 this week
1:37:46 to
1:37:49 have AI
1:37:54 Gemini or chat
1:37:58 Gemini question work.
1:38:02 Generate a keynote
1:38:10 presentation outline out of
1:38:15 the transcript of the Michael
1:38:20 of the AI podcast
1:38:26 um of the AI podcast. Okay, let's see if
1:38:29 it does that. I mean, I know it'll do
1:38:32 that. Let's see if it makes sense what
1:38:33 it does. So, are you liking notion?
1:38:36 I don't know yet. I'm [clears throat]
1:38:40 I'm liking that I can tell Harry's my
1:38:43 little dude here.
1:38:46 I'm liking that I can tell Harry what I
1:38:47 want and it just does it.
1:38:52 I think I'm really going to like it
1:38:55 when I start populating all this stuff
1:38:58 and
1:39:01 populating it with notes and I I don't
1:39:04 know like I
1:39:07 I know that the more information that
1:39:10 goes into notion and then can get
1:39:12 assigned to these projects the more
1:39:14 powerful it's going to become. So, I'm
1:39:17 at the point right now where I'm like,
1:39:20 "Okay, here's the here's the metaphor.
1:39:24 I know that in the end what I want is a
1:39:26 giant life-sized statue of of maybe a
1:39:31 human being, but maybe a human being
1:39:33 with like a monster
1:39:35 parts."
1:39:38 And where I am right now is I'm like
1:39:40 I've got a roll of wire and I'm starting
1:39:43 to like bend the wire into the armature
1:39:45 for the like I'm just starting on one of
1:39:47 the feet. And so right now I've got like
1:39:50 some twisted up wire that's starting to
1:39:53 look like a foot a foot skeleton
1:39:57 [laughter]
1:39:57 that I'm going to put clay on. But I've
1:40:00 got like this whole rest of the thing to
1:40:04 imagine and build the structure for
1:40:07 before I even start putting clay on it.
1:40:09 So that's
1:40:11 and and where I am right now is Harry is
1:40:14 helping me bend the wire for the feet,
1:40:16 telling me what to do, you know, doing a
1:40:18 little bit of the work for me. Tik Tok
1:40:20 question. Um, the pin went away.
1:40:25 Are these just headings for projects
1:40:28 right now? But no info and files. That's
1:40:30 correct. Right now, help writing a
1:40:33 children's book for trauma. Recommended
1:40:35 AI. Literally doesn't matter.
1:40:39 Any of them are good.
1:40:41 Which one do you currently use? Is it I
1:40:45 mean, here's the thing about
1:40:51 people swear by Claude as being a better
1:40:54 writer. Um, but better writer is very
1:40:58 very subjective. You might see something
1:41:00 that Gemini writes and that resonates
1:41:02 more with you than something that Claude
1:41:04 writes. Also, all of these tools can be
1:41:07 modified to write more like you write by
1:41:10 prompting them smartly or writing system
1:41:13 instructions. So, it really doesn't
1:41:15 matter. I would say the two for for
1:41:17 writing a children's book right now that
1:41:19 I would recommend are Gemini and Chat
1:41:22 GPT because both of them have really
1:41:25 good image generation
1:41:27 um tools within them that can generate
1:41:30 text, can do car consistent characters.
1:41:33 Um and they're also really good at the
1:41:35 narrative. So I I would I would try
1:41:36 those two. Um Gemini or Chat GPT? I just
1:41:40 lost that that pin again. Could someone
1:41:42 pin that again? Um, have you ever tried
1:41:44 vibe coding to self-host to reduce
1:41:48 subscriptions?
1:41:52 No,
1:41:55 it's not a bad idea,
1:41:59 but if I wanted to do that, I would
1:42:01 probably just go to, you know, something
1:42:03 like
1:42:05 like the like uh what you call like Po.
1:42:08 Like Po lets you use lots of models. I
1:42:10 don't think I need to vibe code
1:42:12 something up where I can get access to
1:42:14 multiple subscriptions.
1:42:16 Um
1:42:18 I my problem with those kind of sites is
1:42:21 that they tend to be a compromise
1:42:25 from from the core site, right? Like
1:42:28 like PO, if you don't like the basic PO
1:42:32 interface and the and the the PO layout,
1:42:35 it's like that for every tool, right?
1:42:37 It's always the same for every tool. And
1:42:39 if you don't like it, you don't like it.
1:42:40 Like I just don't like the UI for PO. I
1:42:43 think they meant open source. Um Oh. Oh,
1:42:47 doing it with open source. I
1:42:50 I said this earlier. I just got a I'm a
1:42:53 Mac guy. And so I've been avoiding
1:42:57 open-source tools like the plague
1:42:59 because I don't have a machine powerful
1:43:01 enough to really run them and I don't
1:43:03 have the hard drive space to [laughter]
1:43:05 to to run them. I just got a gaming PC
1:43:08 yesterday and I set it up and I've I've
1:43:12 I've installed LM Studio and Pinocchio
1:43:15 and I'm gonna I'm gonna start playing
1:43:17 with open source models. Um
1:43:20 I don't have the time or patience to
1:43:22 really go deeply into that world. Um,
1:43:26 I also
1:43:29 [sighs and gasps]
1:43:32 the open- source stuff feels like it's
1:43:34 just behind like it's lagging just
1:43:36 behind the frontier model companies. Um,
1:43:39 I think there are probably some
1:43:41 arguments where there there might be
1:43:43 things like DeepSeek that are that are
1:43:45 ahead or at least in parody. Um, but I'm
1:43:48 not going to be able to run those
1:43:50 versions locally, right? like so so it's
1:43:53 like running things locally feels like a
1:43:57 compromise to me. So I don't know. So
1:43:59 that's where so where I am right now is
1:44:01 not really. It's not a bad idea though.
1:44:03 It's not a bad idea. And and you know,
1:44:05 quite frankly, in 2026, I would imagine
1:44:08 that the the efficiency of the models
1:44:12 might get to the point that a small
1:44:15 something that you can run on a gaming
1:44:16 PC without, you know, multiple graphics
1:44:19 cards um is good enough to do that. Like
1:44:22 I I think that could happen in 2026. Gen
1:44:25 Spark has gotten very good at layering
1:44:27 models and making them better. I I love
1:44:29 Gen Spark. I'm a huge fan of Gen Spark.
1:44:31 More controls, more choice. Its
1:44:33 personality is great. I I think Gen
1:44:35 Spark of of all the things I know that
1:44:38 Meta just bought Manis, which I find
1:44:40 mind-blowing, but good for Manis. Um I
1:44:44 like Gen Spark better than Manis. Um but
1:44:46 I think Manis is a bit more uh
1:44:51 like like I think of it like
1:44:55 like Gen Spark is kind of like
1:45:01 I was trying to think of a car metaphor.
1:45:03 I can't really.
1:45:09 Manis is like an erector set and Gen
1:45:12 Spark is like Legos. [laughter]
1:45:17 There you go. There's [laughter] your
1:45:19 There's your metaphor. There's your
1:45:22 toys. Toys from the 80s metaphor.
1:45:24 [laughter] Although erector sets from
1:45:26 the 50s. [clears throat]
1:45:28 Okay,
1:45:30 let's see. modify added for to-do for
1:45:34 this week use Gemini. So, if I go to AI
1:45:36 podcast now and I open this, hang on,
1:45:39 let me So, if I go here and I hit open,
1:45:45 where do I see
1:45:50 my task?
1:45:52 Tasks. Use Gemini.
1:45:55 The due date is January 9th.
1:46:01 All right. Hang on.
1:46:05 Let me close this.
1:46:19 This is a business area.
1:46:28 So, I'm going to go project work.
1:46:41 business area
1:46:47 status to do. Okay.
1:46:53 Okay. So, that kind of worked. [snorts]
1:46:56 So, then I think so you don't need to
1:46:58 watch me do this. I think my next my
1:47:01 next thing to do now
1:47:04 is to use Harry
1:47:08 to go put in all my to-dos, my tasks.
1:47:15 Ask Harry to add the task to the
1:47:17 projects. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm
1:47:18 going to do. GenSpark is more user
1:47:21 friendly. One more step. Yeah, exactly.
1:47:26 Exactly. and then I'll have that and
1:47:29 then Okay, so Vicki, so here's here's
1:47:31 one more question for tonight.
1:47:34 Um,
1:47:36 so I get that I've got now I've got it
1:47:38 set up with business areas, projects
1:47:40 underneath them. I've got overall status
1:47:43 of the projects if I want to look at
1:47:44 that, including dumpster fire.
1:47:47 Within the projects, I've got tasks,
1:47:50 I've got to-dos. I might rename tasks
1:47:53 something more, you know, less
1:47:55 businessy.
1:47:56 Um,
1:47:59 what else do you use
1:48:03 notion for? Like what are you putting in
1:48:06 the project pages or what are you
1:48:08 putting in like what other [ __ ] are you
1:48:11 putting in here? Because right now this
1:48:13 just is like a fancy to-do list and I
1:48:17 know it can do so so much more than
1:48:18 that. So, and anyone can answer this,
1:48:21 not just Vicki. If anyone uses notion,
1:48:24 I'd like to understand like what are the
1:48:26 other things I should be thinking about
1:48:28 populating this with
1:48:36 [clears throat]
1:48:37 mouse battery.
1:48:40 This is one of those beautiful Apple
1:48:42 mice where when you charge it, you can't
1:48:45 use it [laughter]
1:48:47 because they put the charging port on
1:48:49 the bottom where you use the mouse.
1:48:52 Resources, reminders to pay or stop
1:48:55 bills.
1:48:57 Resources like what? Like documents,
1:49:00 Vicki. Like you put like a word document
1:49:03 in here.
1:49:09 That's why I bought a trackpad.
1:49:12 All right, I'll I'll I'll start to
1:49:14 figure out what resources means next
1:49:16 time.
1:49:18 Okay, so
1:49:22 while I've got you here,
1:49:24 um I hope you enjoyed this. I hope you
1:49:28 enjoyed watching an old guy try to
1:49:31 install software. [laughter]
1:49:35 Welcome. Welcome to the AI learning lab
1:49:38 where you too can watch someone stumble
1:49:40 through life. Um, but listen, this is
1:49:43 how we learn, man. This is part of the
1:49:45 daily practice, part of how we get
1:49:48 better at this [ __ ] is you've got to sit
1:49:50 through the the uncomfortable stuff and
1:49:52 figure out if something is actually for
1:49:54 you. I may do all this work and
1:49:56 ultimately realize it ain't for me, but
1:49:59 I'm willing to go through it. I like I
1:50:01 feel like I owe I enough people that I
1:50:05 respect
1:50:06 have been telling me it's worth the
1:50:09 time, it's worth the investment that I'm
1:50:11 going to give it a shot.
1:50:13 Um, and it sucks going through it,
1:50:16 right? All my API keys are under the
1:50:19 tools they belong to. Oh, that's really
1:50:20 smart. That's really good. Okay, so
1:50:23 couple of things. If you did not see AI
1:50:26 Festivus,
1:50:27 you missed out on a huge thing. It was
1:50:29 24 hours of content over two days,
1:50:32 January 2 or December 26th and 27th. Um,
1:50:36 it was a really remarkable event.
1:50:38 There's a sneak preview of my musical
1:50:40 Sydney in there. Um, there's just all
1:50:43 sorts of very, very inspiring talks. you
1:50:46 can get the deluxe replay bundle which
1:50:49 includes all of the videos, all of the
1:50:52 transcripts, um, jellyod podcasts,
1:50:55 u just all sorts of stuff
1:50:58 from Festivus for 27 bucks. So, if you
1:51:02 go to aifestivist.com,
1:51:04 you can get the replay bundle for 27
1:51:06 bucks. Like, it is ridiculous how cheap
1:51:10 that is. So, go do that if you haven't.
1:51:13 even if you just want to support the
1:51:14 event because it was free to everyone
1:51:16 who watched it. Um, I want you to join
1:51:19 the AI salon. So, if you go to
1:51:20 community.thesalon.ai,
1:51:22 it's on screen right there. If you
1:51:24 haven't joined, go and join. Tomorrow
1:51:26 night, we've got our monthly meeting.
1:51:28 It's called AI Salon Presents. And we've
1:51:30 got about a dozen speakers from AI
1:51:33 Festivus who are coming back to tell us
1:51:36 what they talked about at Festivus and
1:51:38 um what they uh what they think is going
1:51:41 to happen in 2026. It's going to be
1:51:43 really cool. Um [clears throat] so
1:51:45 that's happening tomorrow night from
1:51:47 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. Mountain time.
1:51:51 So come do that. Uh and then the final
1:51:53 things um one of the groups within the
1:51:56 AI salon is called AI Life Hacks. that
1:51:59 that is hosted by producer Brandon um
1:52:02 and Claire Jacobs, Dr. Jay, and they put
1:52:05 together um
1:52:08 AI life hacks and they bring in people
1:52:10 to talk about that. So, so that's um
1:52:13 that's Wednesday night at at what 5
1:52:16 Mountain time, Brandon? Is that correct?
1:52:19 It's in the AI salon. If you go to
1:52:21 events, it's in there. 5:30. Okay.
1:52:24 And then finally, on January 17th, save
1:52:27 the date. It's a Saturday. Corey
1:52:29 Sandler, who's in the house tonight, is
1:52:32 going to be doing an LOL, a learn out
1:52:34 loud. And I think it's on it's on image
1:52:37 generation. Is that correct? My custom
1:52:40 GPT directory is in notion. Oh, cool.
1:52:43 Code blocks. Okay. Sorry. Still
1:52:46 remembering process templates. Proud of
1:52:48 you. Thank you, DQ.
1:52:51 I I'm proud of me, too. I got over a
1:52:54 hump of like I set this up with Vicki.
1:52:57 whatever it was a week ago and I haven't
1:52:59 touched it since because I was kind of
1:53:00 intimidated by oh I don't feel like
1:53:03 going in there and typing all those
1:53:04 project names and I didn't I just
1:53:07 screenshotted [laughter] my my finder
1:53:10 hierarchy and it matched it. So this now
1:53:13 matches my finder hierarchy. That's
1:53:15 super cool. And then yeah the Corey
1:53:17 Sandler um learn out loud is going to be
1:53:19 about image making. If you've not
1:53:21 watched how Corey
1:53:24 curates and and finds her voice with AI
1:53:28 images, it is really something to
1:53:30 behold. I haven't seen it in a while, so
1:53:31 that's great. Yes, Corey's doing image
1:53:33 generation iterations to rabbit holes.
1:53:35 Good. Yeah, she runs down creative
1:53:38 rabbit holes that I just I find it my
1:53:40 brain doesn't work that way. It's so
1:53:42 cool to watch someone who can do that
1:53:44 really well. Um, beautiful. All right,
1:53:49 fantastic everyone. Hope you had a good
1:53:51 time tonight.
1:53:52 This is what it's like to be in a in a
1:53:54 daily practice. You just you just do the
1:53:57 work. You just do the work. Sometimes
1:53:59 the work, you know, whatever it was
1:54:01 three, four nights ago, I was crying
1:54:03 like a baby.
1:54:05 Tonight it was kind of miserable. We got
1:54:07 we got some dopamine hits. Harry helped
1:54:10 us [laughter] through the through the
1:54:11 rough patches. I'm starting to see some
1:54:13 value in notion. Um, I don't quite get
1:54:17 it yet, but like all the stuff that
1:54:19 Vicki just said, she puts in notion,
1:54:21 it's starting to make sense. Prompts and
1:54:24 code snippets and API keys and all sorts
1:54:27 of [ __ ] like that. And when you have it
1:54:28 hooked into chat GPT, as Kelly Camp
1:54:32 does, and I assume Vicki does as well,
1:54:34 you can just be in chat GPT and be
1:54:37 updating [ __ ] and pulling [ __ ] out of
1:54:39 Notion. There's something really big
1:54:41 here. There's something good here. We
1:54:43 just we don't love it yet, but we
1:54:46 haven't given up. [laughter]
1:54:49 That's it. All right. So, we will vibe
1:54:52 code with emergent maybe tomorrow.
1:54:53 Sometime this week, we'll do that. Um,
1:54:57 beautiful. All right. Um, all have a
1:54:59 good night. Hope you had fun and uh I
1:55:01 will see you tomorrow. Bye.