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1/5/2026 - Automating Icky Project Organization in Notion Using the AI Assistant

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Kyle Shannon confronts his personal resistance to organizational tasks, diving into the "ick work" required to professionalize his AI business using Notion. Facing the challenge of mapping his extensive file hierarchy, he leverages Notion’s AI assistant, "Harry," to automatically restructure his projects and business areas. This session provides a candid look at how AI can help automate tedious setup and enforce professional consistency, turning a daunting organizational task into a manageable daily practice.
The conversation pivots to the broader implications of AI on careers, using data from Stack Overflow to illustrate how technical knowledge is rapidly becoming commoditized. Kyle argues that as AI handles more expertise, "soft skills"—such as integrity, passion, and follow-through—will become the core criteria for hiring and collaboration. He stresses that active participation in communities like the AI Salon is now essential for demonstrating these critical human traits.
#Notion,#AItools,#productivityhacks,#futureofwork,#professionalskills,#AIcommunity,#projectmanagement,#dailypractice
Chapters:
00:00:00 Welcome and Courage
00:01:15 Facing the Ick Work
00:03:10 Driving Your Projects
00:05:57 Notion Organization Challenge
00:08:00 AI Creates Project Chaos
00:09:18 Future of Content Organization
00:12:53 New Gaming PC
00:14:10 Local AI Tools
00:18:10 Stack Overflow Decline Analysis
00:21:59 Hiring for Soft Skills
00:25:00 Importance of AI Community
00:29:05 AI Salon Community Creations
00:33:00 Emotional Suno Music
00:36:10 AI Music and Visualizations
00:39:40 Making Money with AI
00:44:50 Fractal Plotlines Infographic
00:50:40 Beginning Notion Setup
00:56:00 Paying for Notion AI
01:00:00 Automating Notion Organization
01:04:15 Testing Harry the AI
01:17:20 Acknowledging Positive Feedback
01:22:30 Defining Project Status
01:32:00 Populating Notion Tasks
01:41:40 Open Source AI Debate
01:51:52 Final Event Reminders
Chapters
0:00Welcome and Courage1:15Facing the Ick Work3:10Driving Your Projects5:57Notion Organization Challenge8:00AI Creates Project Chaos9:18Future of Content Organization12:53New Gaming PC14:10Local AI Tools18:10Stack Overflow Decline Analysis21:59Hiring for Soft Skills25:00Importance of AI Community29:05AI Salon Community Creations33:00Emotional Suno Music36:10AI Music and Visualizations39:40Making Money with AI44:50Fractal Plotlines Infographic50:40Beginning Notion Setup56:00Paying for Notion AI1:00:00Automating Notion Organization1:04:15Testing Harry the AI1:17:20Acknowledging Positive Feedback1:22:30Defining Project Status1:32:00Populating Notion Tasks1:41:40Open Source AI Debate1:51:52Final Event Reminders
Transcript
0:00 Explain why we're not getting any 0:01 comments. [laughter] 0:10 [music] 0:15 [music] 0:33 >> [music] 0:41 >> Welcome, welcome. If you just joined on 0:43 YouTube or LinkedIn or Twitter, go ahead 0:45 and comment. I forgot to go live earlier 0:48 because, you know, professional 0:54 I did a thing scared today. 0:57 I didn't get a yes, but I didn't get a 0:59 no. 1:02 Um, even if you got a yes or even if you 1:05 got a no 1:07 that you did a thing scared is the 1:11 actual definition of courage. 1:13 Congratulations. That's a big deal. 1:16 Actually, one of the things that I was 1:17 thinking about doing tonight is going 1:20 back to notion on my own. I know we 1:22 probably might have Vicki in here, so I 1:25 probably have I probably have uh 1:28 [laughter] guard rails that if I get 1:31 completely stuck, I can ask someone. But 1:34 my my challenge with notion right now 1:37 isn't 1:38 how to set it up. It's set it's set up 1:41 enough that I can start doing stuff with 1:44 it. My challenge with notion is it's at 1:47 the part where 1:49 I actually have to return to it and put 1:52 in the the icky work. So, it's not quite 1:56 taking action in the face of fear like 1:58 you did, Mimi, but it is 2:03 resisting 2:05 doing something fun and sexy 2:08 and choosing to do something that I 2:10 actually need to get done. And and 2:12 here's why I need to get it done. 2:15 Now that you're live, Vicki is here. 2:16 Awesome. Um, 2:22 I've got enough projects and I've got 2:25 enough 2:28 I've got enough shift in 2:31 what I want to do in 2026 where I want 2:34 to be more intentional. I want to make 2:37 some [ __ ] money. I want to um 2:44 not be so willing to give into the fear, 2:47 right? I want to have a a good 2:49 courageous year, a good a good solid 2:54 make it happen year. 2:56 And 2:58 [music] 3:03 and part of that requires doing the 3:05 doing the ick work, doing the work that 3:07 doesn't feel as sexy. [music] 3:10 JJ, same. Same, Kyle. Same. Yeah. It's 3:14 it's it's like I mean, [laughter] you 3:16 know, you know, starting out the new 3:18 year with like, okay, we're going to 3:19 kick ass in 2026. It's like great. And 3:22 then the next day shows up, you're like, 3:24 "Okay, what what are we gonna do now? 3:28 What are we?" 3:30 So, you're with me, right? I'm just all 3:33 on my own still. Yeah, man. If you're 3:37 going to do this [ __ ] you actually have 3:39 to do the [ __ ] 3:41 In my case, 3:44 my big epiphany was 3:47 I have a lifetime of 3:50 [music] I'm really good at starting 3:52 projects and then I and I think of them 3:54 like cars. Like I design and build a car 3:58 like I'm good 4:01 and then I get out of the driver's seat 4:02 and I get in the back seat [laughter] 4:04 and I don't drive it. 4:08 So, this year is going to be about 4:10 finding ways to be in the driver's seat. 4:13 Being in the driver's seat, [music] 4:15 really owning what that means. 4:20 Sometimes that means taking 4:22 responsibility for [ __ ] you didn't do. 4:24 Sometimes that means 4:27 not relying on other people to make 4:29 decisions that you know are yours to 4:31 make. Can you drive the black bar back 4:34 on? I could. And I could also flip 4:37 cameras. 4:39 Um, 4:42 let me see. 4:45 [singing] 4:46 There we go. That's better for you tick 4:48 tockers, right? That's good. [music] 4:57 [music] 5:02 Okay, hang on a sec. 5:04 Hang on, people. There's There's schmutz 5:07 to be smooched. Schmooched. [laughter] 5:12 All right. How's that? Is that better? 5:14 Uhoh. 5:16 What have I done? What have I done? 5:18 Yeah, that's better. Okay. Beautiful. 5:23 Where is he going? Just going to to wipe 5:27 the pav. 5:29 I too hope I can earn a bit of money 5:31 with AI. 5:34 You can make money with 5:36 >> I'm okay with just 10 million US 5:39 [laughter] 5:41 per hour to start. Yeah, 10 million 10 5:45 million US should get you through the 5:47 weekend. 5:51 [music] 5:54 Um, I actually before I dive in and do 5:56 my distasteful work, I I do want to 5:58 share something with you. I made a a 6:00 video today on Tik Tok and I also posted 6:03 it on LinkedIn [music] and then I went 6:06 to boost it on LinkedIn and I actually 6:08 think it's important enough that it's 6:09 worth sharing more widely and uh 6:12 LinkedIn rejected it because I say the F 6:15 word in it. [music] 6:21 [music and singing] 6:23 Um, but I want to talk about that 6:27 and then I'm going to dive into the the 6:29 work I have to do on notion actually 6:33 doesn't have anything to do with notion 6:35 but but I'll tell you what it's going to 6:36 be so you can prepare to take a nap now. 6:40 [laughter] 6:43 Okay. So Vicki helped me set up. I've 6:46 got these things called I forget what 6:48 they're called and what I called them, 6:49 but like large project groupings and 6:52 then I have projects underneath those. 6:54 Like Kyle writing might be a a group 6:58 project and then Sydney might be a 7:00 project underneath that and a book might 7:01 be a project underneath that. 7:05 And so I've got I've got a set of 7:07 folders on my hard drive that follow a 7:12 hierarchy. And I want to make sure that 7:14 my notion folders follow the same 7:16 hierarchy so that there's some 7:17 consistency between them so it's not all 7:19 [ __ ] confusing. 7:21 Um, and while that might sound simple to 7:25 some of you, the thought of that to me 7:28 is one of those things just like you 7:30 know grinding 7:32 I don't know sand into a wound. It's 7:34 just like it's just very distasteful. 7:37 [music] 7:37 And so 7:39 it's just going to be me doing that. 7:41 Now, what I am likely going to discover 7:43 is that it's less of a big deal than I 7:46 make it out to be, which one of my 7:49 experience in experiences in life is 7:53 the anticipation is always always way 7:58 more intense than the reality. [music] 8:06 [music] Kyle, that's tantamount to brain 8:08 rewiring. Yeah. 8:11 >> [music] 8:12 >> And and listen, I get I'm here's what 8:14 I'm not doing. What I'm not doing is I'm 8:16 not trying to turn myself into a project 8:18 manager, right? 8:21 But what I am trying to do is say that 8:26 as part of my daily practice in 8:28 professionalizing my work in AI, 8:34 I think one of the one of the downsides 8:38 of AI is that it it it so easily allows 8:43 you to start new [ __ ] 8:46 And then if you don't have a if you 8:49 don't have a decent place to put that 8:51 [ __ ] where you can go find it again, 8:55 then it's just chaos. Then it's just 8:57 noise and madness. 8:59 Um, 9:01 and so this is, you know, if I had not 9:04 witnessed Cindy [ __ ] get her get her act 9:06 together on this and people like Vicki 9:09 that are figuring this stuff out, um, 9:11 who also have, you know, similar 9:15 neurospicy, 9:16 um, 9:19 elements That's [laughter] 9:21 [music] 9:31 [music] 9:37 [music] 9:43 [music] 9:48 >> [music] 9:53 [music] 9:56 >> I truly believe that organizing content 9:58 for others will be a future job. That's 10:01 actually not a bad idea, Kelly. I I do 10:06 not disagree with you. 10:11 Now, what I would say is that AI 10:14 AI is going to get good enough that you 10:17 may not need to organize stuff, 10:20 but I think that's ultimately a pipe 10:23 dream because 10:28 I don't know. I don't know, man. That's 10:30 a fascinating one. 10:36 Maybe it's not even so much that AI 10:38 can't organize it. It's that you hire 10:40 someone 10:43 to just help you think about how you 10:44 want to organize things. 10:47 I've thought about this for a while that 10:49 that the idea of hierarchical folder 10:52 structures. 10:56 Like it makes sense when we as humans 10:58 have to dig through stuff, but it it 11:00 stops making sense when the hierarchy 11:03 gets so complicated that our brains 11:05 can't handle it. 11:07 >> [sighs and gasps] 11:10 >> Well, with the exception of the Dewey 11:12 decimal system, [laughter] 11:14 but you know, there's people in there 11:16 whose job it is to just organize [ __ ] 11:19 [laughter] 11:21 But if you have a tool that that can 11:23 find anything and knows everything about 11:25 you, do we need to organize stuff? Right 11:28 now, we do. So, right now, I'm going to 11:30 learn [ __ ] Notion. I'm going to get 11:31 it together. I'm going to learn notion. 11:33 So, that's what we're going to do 11:34 tonight. All right. I predicted prompt 11:36 movies two years ago because I wanted to 11:38 watch Die Hard [laughter] 11:42 in Lego. 11:47 [music] 11:54 Is this [music] place I can rest my 11:56 forehead 11:59 [music] 12:01 to gather [singing] my thoughts in sweet 12:03 silence? 12:08 And is this place where the 12:10 [singing and music] feelings on day 12:14 from an over [singing and music] closure 12:16 to violence. 12:19 This is the place I can slowly [singing] 12:21 face. The only one I truly can know. 12:26 [music] 12:27 These are tears from a long time ago. 12:29 [singing] 12:31 Got these [music] tears from a long time 12:33 ago. 12:34 I [singing] need to cry 30 years or 12:37 [music] so. 12:39 These are tears from a long time. 12:43 [music] 12:45 Go. 12:48 [music] 12:53 [music] 12:54 Okay, 12:56 [clears throat] let's get going. 12:58 So, one one exciting uh one exciting 13:01 moment. No, one exciting thing for me 13:04 personally 13:06 is um I saved up some shekels and and I 13:12 got myself a new gaming PC so that I 13:15 could do sim racing again. Don't worry, 13:16 I'm not going back to sim racing five 13:18 nights a week instead of this cuz this 13:20 replaced my sim racing, [laughter] 13:23 but I want to occasionally race again. 13:25 And I had blown out I had blown out my 13:27 my handme-down computer from one of my 13:29 boys. I got a uh I got a a uh a freebie 13:33 graphics card from the internet and it 13:35 blew up my computer. So So I haven't 13:38 been able to race. So I went to Costco 13:41 and I got myself a pre-built PC. Um and 13:44 it's got a decent graphics card in it. 13:47 So I'm going to be able to do local AI 13:50 stuff. Um, I'm not going to get into 13:53 open source deeply, but I do want to 13:56 understand what's possible and what's 13:58 possible with like a basically a gaming 14:00 PC. I still prefer the large screen of 14:03 YouTube, but I keep Tik Tok open so I 14:05 can read the comments. Let's make a new 14:07 platform. Neuros Oh, actually, 14:11 you know what, Tom Nodler, 14:14 Mr. Forever hooked. 14:19 That would be like an interesting Tik 14:21 Tok tube. 14:24 That would be an interesting vibe coding 14:26 app, wouldn't it? I do. Both of them 14:28 have APIs. I think both of them do. I 14:30 don't know if Tik Tok does. They may 14:32 not. [clears throat] Okay. 14:35 I can't leave you. [laughter] I wish I 14:38 could leave you. [gasps] Okay. I want to 14:40 show you all something. Let me go share 14:42 my screen. Let me go share the screen. 14:48 I'm gonna guess I'll do entire screen 14:50 because I'm going to be bouncing around 14:51 a bit. [clears throat] 14:54 Okay, let's see. 14:58 Where did I respond? 15:03 I did a reply. Did I do a reply? I think 15:06 I did a reply. 15:10 AI models are killing critical thinking, 15:13 are they? 15:15 Okay, here's this 15:18 graph from. Okay, 15:21 so here's the comments. This is on 15:24 hacker news [clears throat] 15:25 y combinator. 15:27 [cough] 15:29 Excuse me. 15:31 Got a little little garb in in your old 15:34 throat. 15:36 All [clears throat] right. 15:39 Oh, Bunny Cat sent gifts on Tik Tok. 15:42 Thank you very much, bunny cat. Oh, a 15:44 hat and a mustache. Thank you so much. 15:47 That is lovely. I appreciate that. Oh, I 15:51 am so excited to hear you say this. I 15:54 started playing with Lama and 15:56 anti-gravity. Oh, that's cool. So, um, 15:59 so here's what I did. I cheated. One of 16:01 Thank you so much. I appreciate that, 16:03 buddy. Um, one of the things that I have 16:06 told you all for years is get your ass 16:10 in community, right? 16:13 [laughter] 16:13 And and um, why do we do that? Well, 16:19 maybe there's some day where you get 16:23 yourself a gaming PC that has a graphics 16:26 card in it that can do AI. Well, what do 16:28 you do next? You could just go ask chat 16:30 GPT, but if you know someone like Brent 16:33 Peterson who's been building stuff on 16:35 open source models for three years at a 16:38 worldclass level, you could just drop 16:41 Brent a little DM on LinkedIn and go, 16:43 "Hey buddy, [laughter] 16:46 what's the what's the first thing I 16:48 should install?" 16:50 And he just flipping answered it. He 16:53 just flipping answered it. um it's LM 16:56 Studio 16:58 um is what he recommends. So LM Studio 17:00 basically gives you like um like a chat 17:03 GPT like interface 17:05 um and then you can basically just 17:06 download different models and you just 17:08 basically switch between models and you 17:10 use it just like Chad GPT. So that's LM 17:12 Studio. And then the other thing he 17:14 recommended was Pinocchio, which if you 17:17 don't know Pinocchio, it basically 17:20 if you really want to set up like 17:24 any decent 17:26 local AI model, you've got to set up 17:29 like Python libraries and Python servers 17:32 and dependencies and I don't know, 17:34 there's all this [ __ ] you got to set up. 17:36 And that's exactly the reason why I 17:39 don't play with open source is because I 17:41 could give two shits about that level of 17:43 geekery. I just I don't care. I don't 17:46 care. What Pinocchio does is it just 17:48 automates all of that. So So geeks that 17:52 love that stuff, they put together a 17:54 little framework of here's all the 17:55 dependencies you need, here's all the 17:56 tools you need to install, and the 17:58 Pinocchio just installs that [ __ ] for 18:00 you. Just goes and does it. Um, I I 18:04 haven't actually played with anything on 18:06 Pinocchio yet, but I those are the two 18:07 things I have. So, where's paid? I'm 18:10 lost already. [laughter] 18:16 Oh, man. Okay. I started with LM Studio. 18:19 Wait till you have the power to handle 18:22 it. Um, fried my MacBook Air. [laughter] 18:27 That's hilarious. That's great. Yeah, 18:29 MacBook Airs weren't weren't meant for a 18:31 lot of high data throughput. 18:34 Okay, so this is the response board to 18:39 this 18:43 uh this graph. Wait, where 18:45 [clears throat] is it? 18:47 Is this it? Yeah, this graph. 18:51 So, let me make this bigger. So, this 18:53 graph 18:55 is funny. I made a video about this this 18:57 morning about 18:58 This is a graph of Substack and Vicky 19:01 Baptist was like, "Uh, are you sure? 19:05 Seems like Substack's doing pretty 19:07 good." I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, I I know 19:09 what I'm doing, Vicki." And then I went 19:11 and looked at the graph and it's not 19:13 Substack, it's Stack Overflow, but it 19:16 had a stack in it. In my defense, it did 19:18 have a stack in it. So, [laughter] I had 19:21 to I had to re re uh re-record my video 19:25 that talked about Substack and delete 19:26 it. Uh, Stub Substack's doing fine. This 19:28 is Stack Overflow. Um, here's what I 19:32 wanted to share you share with you about 19:34 this graph. So, uh, Stack Overflow 19:37 started in 2008 and, um, and this is 19:41 their, um, graph of number of questions 19:45 asked. I assume this is maybe quarterly. 19:52 It's this is two years across here. So 19:54 we got 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 20:00 15 16 17 19 20. Okay, so it's monthly. 20:04 So this is monthly um monthly messages. 20:08 They peaked at around 210 20:12 27,000 20:14 monthly messages. 20:16 Um they're down to 321. 20:22 So, it just fell off a cliff. Right 20:24 here, 20:26 right here 20:28 is the end of 2022. 20:31 So, that's the the beginning of chat 20:33 GPT. 20:34 And what what Stack Overflow is is this 20:37 is a site that where programmers ask 20:40 each other questions like the question I 20:42 asked Brent Peterson. If it was a real 20:44 substantive question, I would go to 20:46 Stack Overflow and I would say, "Hey, 20:48 who knows how to handle a memory 20:50 overflow error with this programming 20:52 language and this kind of 20:53 configuration?" And some nerd in there 20:56 would figure it out and tell me and 20:57 everything would be happy. 21:00 They're basically 21:02 non-existent, [clears throat] 21:03 right? So, what strikes me about this 21:07 graph, 21:08 we've been talking a lot in here about 21:10 making money. Well, not a lot. In the 21:13 past two weeks, we've talked the the the 21:16 subject of making money 21:20 >> has come up that we've all put in a lot 21:21 of time and and we've got some expertise 21:25 and we've got some credibility and 21:29 you know, we're sort of combining what 21:31 we used to do with our AI and we've got 21:33 some some knowledge there and that's all 21:36 good. 21:37 This is an example of a community that 21:40 has very very high knowledge demands 21:43 and 21:46 the 21:48 people asking other people for that 21:51 knowledge is non-existent because 21:54 knowledge is now a commodity that we can 21:56 ask a large language model for. And the 22:00 implication of this is this is not just 22:02 going to be limited to programmers. This 22:05 is going to be every kind of knowledge. 22:08 If you're an expert um 22:13 business consultant, change management 22:16 consultant, creative director, project 22:19 manager, you've got 20, 30 years of 22:21 experience. Historically, how you would 22:24 market yourself is say, I've got these 22:26 skills. I've got this knowledge. And 22:30 historically, someone would go, I need a 22:32 project manager. I need someone with 22:34 expertise in project management. 22:39 And they would go look and they say, 22:40 "Oh, they've got 20 years of experience 22:42 here." Well, they're not asking those 22:45 questions anymore because if they need 22:48 just basic knowledge about stuff, they 22:49 can go ask chat GPT. If they want to 22:52 vibe code an app, they can go vibe code 22:53 an app. 22:55 It doesn't mean that that no one's going 22:58 to hire other people. I think there's 23:01 going to be lots of hiring that goes on, 23:03 but I think that how people get hired is 23:07 going to change dramatically. So, 23:09 instead of me thinking, I've got to find 23:10 someone who's good at Photoshop or who's 23:12 good at, you know, has experience with 23:15 this, has these kind of skills, 23:19 I'm going to hire them for very 23:20 different reasons. I'm going to assume 23:22 that because of AI, if they're decently 23:25 AI literate, they're going to be able to 23:27 figure out the knowledge stuff, the 23:29 tactical stuff, the execution stuff, the 23:31 expertise stuff. 23:33 Well, how why am I going to hire them? 23:35 Well, I'm going to hire them for their 23:38 soft skills, right? We there's always 23:40 been this talk in the in the work world 23:42 of soft skills and hard skills. Hard 23:44 skills are here's the [ __ ] I know how to 23:46 do. Soft skills are like you're not an 23:49 [ __ ] 23:50 You've got integrity. You follow through 23:53 on things. You you give a [ __ ] about the 23:56 end product and and as as Liz Miller 23:59 Gersfeld says, the fidelity of the idea. 24:02 I'm not going to hire Liz because she's 24:04 great at this tool or that tool or being 24:07 able to edit things together. I'm going 24:09 to assume that she can figure that stuff 24:11 out because of AI. I'm going to hire her 24:13 because I know that she's personally 24:15 cares deeply about understanding what 24:18 we're trying to accomplish and 24:20 maintaining the fidel fidelity of that 24:22 idea. 24:23 And so the the reason I'm sharing this 24:25 is that, you know, I the the more I 24:29 learn about what's coming and what's 24:31 here, the more important than ever it 24:34 seems to be part of a community like 24:36 this one, part of the AI salon 24:40 that getting your voice heard so that 24:44 you so people understand that you're 24:46 passionate and you're 24:49 um 24:51 that you have integrity and that you are 24:54 someone you'd want to hang out with is 24:56 is really important stuff. 24:59 The implications for education are huge. 25:01 That's why I'm positioning myself out of 25:03 teaching and into AI for higher 25:05 education. Yep, that makes sense to me. 25:07 Biology is the next big target in my 25:09 humble opinion. Lots of companies 25:11 looking for biology PhDs 25:13 uh to check AI biology output. Oh yeah, 25:16 especially cell bio. Yeah. and and and 25:19 that'll even be temporary because at you 25:21 know at some point simulation world 25:23 understanding 25:25 um world simulation is going to be so 25:27 strong that the the AI is going to be 25:29 able to run experiments virtually that 25:31 match what happens in the world. So 25:33 you'll need less and less of those 25:35 people verifying that science because 25:37 it'll be it'll be so so much farther 25:39 down the down the road. And then when we 25:41 have physical robots um maybe you even 25:43 have have labs that can do all that 25:45 stuff. Um, but again, it goes back to 25:48 we're going to hire people, but we're 25:49 going to hire them for different 25:50 reasons. So, anyway, big thanks to AI 25:52 Salon. Amazing and mind-blowing 25:55 contributors. Yeah, exactly. AI Salon 25:57 helped me find someone in my field, 25:59 archetypal architect. I'm hoping to make 26:01 an impact. Great. Beautiful. Um, yeah. 26:05 So, so if you're not a member of the AI 26:07 salon, join, go to community.thesalon.ai 26:11 and join. Um, it doesn't cost anything. 26:15 you can join what's called the AI salon 26:17 mastermind and that's where we're 26:19 working on designing our daily practices 26:21 and I'm turning this channel into an 26:24 expression of my daily practice, a place 26:26 where I can practice um being more 26:30 intentional with AI and so I'm I'm 26:31 really excited about that. Tomorrow 26:34 night, um if you missed AI Festivus, we 26:37 have a really fun uh we have a really 26:39 fun uh AI salon presents tomorrow night. 26:43 So, from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. Mountain 26:45 time, 26:47 we are um 26:50 bringing back I think what did we end up 26:53 with, Brandon? Like a dozen a dozen 26:55 speakers from AI Festivus, something 26:58 like that. 27:00 See? Yeah. Um we have like a dozen 27:03 people including Kelly Bes and um well, 27:08 Brandon will be there. [laughter] 27:10 Brandon will be bringing people up. a 27:12 bunch of people that spoke at Festivus 27:14 um are going to be just doing like a 27:16 little five minute recap of what they 27:18 talked about at Festivus and then 27:20 talking about what are their thoughts 27:21 for 2026, you know, what are their 27:23 predictions, what are their thoughts. Um 27:25 so it should be a really good really 27:27 good uh uh session and and just a lot of 27:30 love in the room because the the 27:32 presenters at Festivist did did really 27:34 great and people just love them. There's 27:36 uh Joy Perie is gonna be there and Rick 27:38 and and uh Erica Erica Hana um puke 27:43 rainbows. I don't know if she's here 27:44 tonight, but she was here the other 27:46 night giving me all sorts of [ __ ] 27:48 [laughter] 27:50 Um I would be nowhere in my AI knowledge 27:53 without this community. Thanks all. 27:56 Yeah. And it's, you know, it's funny 27:57 like the people that the people that are 28:00 active in the community, if I think 28:02 about, you know, if I want to do 28:04 something, 28:06 I know the people in the community who 28:08 show up, right? 28:11 And I know the people in the community 28:12 who are curious and adventurous and 28:15 think, you know, intelligently and think 28:17 critically. 28:19 And so if it comes time at some point 28:20 for me to hire people, I'm going to be 28:22 able to go, "Huh, who do I who do I know 28:24 in here? I'm not going to go to [ __ ] 28:27 LinkedIn. Who's got the right resume for 28:29 this set of skills that I want?" No. No. 28:33 No. No. No. Okay. 28:40 Are we allowed to post the link here? 28:42 Which link? To the AI salon? 28:45 Yes. 28:48 In fact, it's on screen right now. 28:49 community.thesalon.ai 28:52 here. Right here. Right here. Yeah. 28:55 There you go. 28:59 Oh, beautiful. Oh, the link the link 29:01 directly to the uh to the event 29:04 tomorrow. Yeah, it's great. Awesome. So, 29:06 there's the if if you go to just the the 29:09 basic AI Salon uh Mighty Network site, 29:12 the community uh and click on the events 29:14 tab, you will also see it in there. All 29:17 right, let's go. I like it. I like it a 29:20 lot. Okay, I'm avoiding what I what I 29:24 said I'm going to do next. I don't want 29:25 to do it. 29:27 >> Hey, Kyle. 29:28 >> Yes. 29:29 >> Well, I'm gonna help you avoid it. Have 29:31 some weekend homework to grade. 29:34 >> Oh, yeah. That's right. Okay, good. 29:36 >> That was my way of trying to tell you, 29:37 let's go to the salon. 29:39 >> That's right. 29:40 >> Where am I going? Look what I look what 29:41 I made. And and uh community feed. 29:45 It's mostly in liquid. I mean, 29:47 >> okay, cool. For homework, Joy Party, 29:49 I've decided. Wait, let's go. Let's go 29:51 see where we've got. Okay, there's one. 29:55 Oh, this one's cool. Weaver. Weaver 29:58 doing some cool stuff in here. All 29:59 right, we'll go look at this in a 30:01 second. Lori Blair, 30:05 Brandon Tid, silly song I made. 30:08 What's this? Weaver. Another one. 30:13 real triplets or be tip triplets. Mod 30:17 2100. 30:20 Weaver geeking out. 30:23 That's gorgeous. 30:25 Weaver's in the comment. 30:28 It's a great site, by the way. Oh, the 30:30 community site. Thank you. That's we we 30:32 have Andy Scarantino to thank for the 30:35 organization of the salon right now. She 30:38 uh she's really good at at figuring that 30:41 stuff out. Okay, this is a sunno song 30:43 from Brandon. Silly song I made for the 30:46 tidbits. Those are the those are the 30:48 Brandon Tid children, I'm guessing, 30:50 [laughter] because he calls them the 30:52 tidbits. All right, here we go. Oh, 30:54 something went wrong. 30:56 Please try refreshing the page. 30:59 All right, that's good. But I got to 31:01 share this different. Hold, please. 31:05 [clears throat] 31:09 All right. So, this is a chilling song 31:11 for Brandon's kids. 31:21 [music] 31:26 I'm swimming in the [singing] snow with 31:27 my flippers on tight, wearing shades in 31:29 the dark of the middle of night. I'm 31:32 eating hot soup from an ice cream cone. 31:34 Calling everyone loudly on a silent 31:37 phone. Nothing makes sense [singing] and 31:39 that's just fine. When everything 31:42 backwards feels right on time, 31:46 it's the opposite day. Hooray! 31:49 Hooray! Hooray! [singing] 31:53 Up is down and night is day. Laugh it 31:56 loud. Don't be afraid. [music] come and 31:59 play. 32:01 [singing] 32:06 >> So, so Brandon, I have a question for 32:08 you. [laughter] 32:11 So, so this is turning into your 32:13 soundtrack for your car. Have you 32:15 created songs that you've played so much 32:17 now that you can't stand them anymore? 32:19 [laughter] 32:21 >> We're getting there. 32:24 But the kids will request actual like 32:27 they will be singing them here and um 32:30 they will be like requesting them by 32:33 name. So they want to hear like oh I 32:35 want to hear this song. This one's a bit 32:37 campy. This is probably the campiest one 32:39 that we created. 32:40 >> It's catchy and it and we only created 32:43 it a week ago. So it's it's still in hot 32:45 rotation. 32:46 >> This one's still still nice and fresh. 32:48 [laughter] 32:49 I like it. That's awesome. Uh, the one 32:52 above mine though, um, I think it was 32:55 from Silver Fox. 32:57 >> This one? 32:57 >> Um, it absolutely amazing. So, much much 33:01 better than than my AI. 33:03 >> No, yours. Listen, yours yours is what 33:05 it reminded me of is like a a Wiggles 33:07 song or like one of those things where 33:09 you're like, you know, this this has 33:11 been fo foisted on my family. I should 33:13 not have to deal with this. But you 33:15 foisted it on yourself. So, 33:17 >> yes, we were the we were the foyers. 33:20 >> That's awesome. All right, let's listen 33:22 to Silver Foxes. By the way, if you're 33:24 wondering what we're doing, we we uh on 33:26 Friday night date night, uh we give 33:28 homework for the weekend. And so we just 33:30 said, "Hey, this weekend go make 33:32 something nice and and post it into Look 33:34 what I made." And so that's what people 33:35 have done. Um okay, let me 33:41 go play this song. 33:51 Do you feel feel me? Okay. 33:57 [music] 34:04 [music] We used to be electric 34:06 summer on our skin. Now every hour is a 34:10 day. You feel [music] this paper thin. 34:12 [singing] 34:13 Your voice is right there, but it's 34:16 miles away. Like we're both [music] 34:18 holding goodbye back every day. I scroll 34:22 through a lance. 34:25 [singing] 34:26 Trying [music] to prove we were real, 34:29 not just accidents. Your eyes don't 34:31 [singing] land the way they used to do. 34:34 And I hate how that hurts. [music] I 34:37 hate me for it, too. 34:41 Do you feel me when you don't reach for 34:43 my hand? When your silence says stop 34:47 what your heart says I can't. We're sad 34:50 and we're angry. We're breaking into you 34:55 and my 34:58 losing [singing and music] 34:59 you. 35:02 Do you feel [music and singing] me? Do 35:04 you feel me? We don't even fight like we 35:09 mean it anymore. Just sharp little 35:12 [music] words. Then we stare at the 35:14 floor. You say you're fine. [singing] 35:16 Like it's easier to lie. I say whatever, 35:21 but I'm dying inside. 35:24 You look past [music] me like I'm 35:26 background [singing] 35:27 noise. I miss the way you used to say my 35:30 [music] name like [singing] a choice. 35:32 And I can't tell what's worse. You 35:36 letting go or me still open your door. 35:43 Do you feel me when you don't reach for 35:46 my hand? When your silence says stop, 35:49 but your heart says I [music] can. We're 35:52 sad and we're angry. We're breaking into 35:56 you are my 36:00 and [music] I'm losing you. 36:07 >> [music] 36:09 >> That's so good. That's so good. It just 36:12 I think 2026 is going to be a really 36:14 interesting year. Um it became pretty 36:17 apparent in 2025 36:21 that 36:22 there are absolutely AI haters with all 36:26 of the music generation tools. Um but 36:29 you also had Warner Music and Universal 36:31 Music. um quas buying basically suing 36:36 their way into owning major stakes of 36:39 Sunno and Udo. Um, so the the music 36:43 industry is invested in these 36:45 technologies and there's a lot of 36:47 musicians who've embraced AI as a 36:50 component in the chain of craft of 36:53 making songs like taking old snippets or 36:55 ideas from songs, turning them into 36:57 tracks and then splitting them into 36:59 stems and sort of, you know, recreating 37:01 them. But but absolutely using AI in in 37:04 the flow. Um, I think 2026 that's going 37:07 to get way more way more apparent or or 37:10 way more visible. Um, and I don't I 37:14 don't think it's going to be I I I hope 37:17 not that it's going to be just, you 37:19 know, years and years and years of 37:22 people screaming about it. Um, we'll 37:24 see. We'll see. Joyy's video. The notion 37:28 motion. I want to look at I want to look 37:29 at Weaver's 37:31 graphics here. 37:33 These are cool. The Ryman hypothesis. 37:35 Oh, wait. I'm not sharing my screen. 37:41 Navier Stokes PTE. So, these are like 37:45 math proofs, prime patterns or math 37:48 concepts that are visualized with with 37:52 cool light. This is super cool. 37:59 Iterative dynamics. Colets. Oh, yeah. 38:01 The old iterative dynamics. You know, 38:03 when I studied iterative dynamics in 38:05 acting school, uh we did a lot of uh 38:08 collat uh theorems, we worked those out 38:11 a lot. [laughter] 38:15 Algebraic geometry. I you know, if I get 38:18 one more A in algebraic geometry, that 38:20 would be one. 38:23 All right, let's see. What's this one? 38:25 Lock discoveries. I'm telling Pate. 38:28 Don't tell Pate that I'm making fun of 38:31 math people. 38:32 >> [laughter] 38:35 >> Oh, the diiaphantine equations. Man, if 38:38 I had a nickel for every diaph equation 38:41 I solved, I would still be broke. Prime 38:44 patterns. 38:46 Um, these are cool. These are beautiful. 38:53 Wow. 38:55 Huh. 38:58 I think this is just we when I see stuff 39:00 like this. [laughter] 39:03 I'll tell you I'll tell you how ignorant 39:05 I am with math. I see stuff like this 39:07 and I'm like they just making this [ __ ] 39:10 up. That this isn't real. No one does 39:14 this. The those movies where they write 39:16 [ __ ] on the board, Matt Damon writing in 39:19 the hallway, that's not real. 39:23 [sighs] 39:23 That's a whole another life I get to 39:25 explore. I'll I'll deal with that next 39:28 time around. [laughter] 39:33 Oh man. Let's see. Oh, Joy Joy Pertie is 39:37 going to be on a podcast tomorrow. Oh, 39:39 with Ken Wisman. That's great. Cool. 39:43 Beautiful. Yeah, if you can put that in 39:44 the uh put that in the uh thing. 39:47 We're talking about the maths. Al 39:50 although I listen I don't know if you 39:52 know this um but I am a polymath. 39:56 I thought for years a polymath was 39:59 someone like Weaver who knew about 40:01 theorems and [ __ ] and you know numbers 40:04 to the power of numbers and letters and 40:06 things. 40:08 That's not what it is. A polymath is 40:10 someone who's good at many things. Maths 40:13 means many things. 40:16 Um, and uh, so I'm a polymath even 40:19 though I'm horrible at math. [laughter] 40:21 That makes me It's one of the one of the 40:23 things that made me happy in 2025 was I 40:26 discovered that I'm a polymath. 40:28 Um, what about these ads that claim to 40:30 learn AI in 15 minutes a day and become 40:34 a millionaire? Oh, that's this. 40:36 >> You can make money with 40:38 >> Okay, so Stephen, great question. Thank 40:41 you for asking that question. 40:45 Um, 40:48 I just talked to I don't know if you're 40:50 here earlier. I was talking about on 40:52 Stack Overflow the the the traffic on a 40:56 site that was about asking experts their 40:59 opinions on how to solve problems has 41:01 basically fallen off a cliff. It it no 41:04 one's using it anymore. Like no one's 41:05 using it because everyone can ask chat 41:07 GBT to answer their questions. They 41:10 don't have to ask other other 41:11 programmers. Um, that's gonna that's 41:14 going to happen for everything. So, so 41:15 there's a thing that's going on is one 41:19 of the things that those sleazy 41:22 marketing people and I really do think 41:23 they are sleazy. 15 minutes a day 41:26 practicing AI, you can bring money. 41:32 Why it's [ __ ] 41:35 I mean, there's a couple of reasons it's 41:36 [ __ ] One of the reasons it's 41:38 [ __ ] is that everybody who 41:41 experiences AI for the first time, they 41:44 realize, "Oh my god, it's remarkable. I 41:48 can do all this stuff that I couldn't do 41:50 before." So, what I'm going to do is I'm 41:52 going to tell people, I can now do all 41:54 this stuff. And then they wonder why the 41:57 phone doesn't ring because everyone's 42:00 having that exact same epiphany at the 42:01 same time. Oh my god, I can do all this 42:03 stuff. I'm going to tell people I can do 42:05 all this stuff. and everyone else is 42:06 just going and asking Chat GPT for that 42:09 help. They're not asking other people. 42:11 So that's one of the problems. 42:14 The second problem 42:15 >> you can make money with 42:17 >> these [ __ ] 42:22 is that 42:24 people don't pay you money 42:27 because you can use AI. 42:30 They don't pay you money because you can 42:32 use Photoshop. They don't pay you money 42:35 because you know how to use a shovel. 42:39 They pay you money because they need a 42:41 hole 42:43 and you happen to know how to use a 42:45 shovel and have one and are willing to 42:48 do the work to dig them a hole, right? 42:52 You hire someone because you need 42:54 pictures edited and refined and made 42:57 more beautiful. 42:59 And so the fact that they can use 43:01 Photoshop is secondary to the problem 43:03 that they're solving. It's the exact 43:05 same thing with AI. How you make money 43:07 with AI 43:10 is you take things that you're good at, 43:12 things that you're passionate about, 43:14 things where you know there's a problem 43:15 to be solved 43:18 and then you can either tell them you're 43:20 using AI or not. It doesn't [ __ ] 43:23 matter if you use AI. Like let's say 43:26 that you're you're really passionate 43:28 about rewriting um 43:31 restaurant menus that that you one of 43:34 your passions in life is you think 43:36 restaurant menus suck and they should be 43:37 entertaining and so you go in and you 43:40 say I'm going to make your menu 43:42 entertaining and and you know it's going 43:45 to raise your you know your ticket price 43:47 by 15%. 43:49 You know it's it's all about the 43:50 desserts. We're going to we're going to 43:51 feature the desserts in this crazy way. 43:54 and they're like, "Okay, I want to I 43:56 want more money and yeah, our menu is 43:58 really boring. I I'd like to see what 44:00 you do with it." Whether you go off and 44:03 manually rewrite their menu or you use 44:05 chat GPT to do that, I think that's 44:07 irrelevant to to the conversation. If 44:10 you can do it well and fast and for less 44:14 money than they give you, then you've 44:16 made money, right? 44:19 So that's so my my philosophy on how you 44:22 make money with chat GPT is how you make 44:24 money with a shovel. You find a problem 44:26 and you solve it. And if you solve it in 44:28 a way either cheaper, better or faster 44:31 than someone else can, 44:34 then you'll make money. And with AI, the 44:36 promise of AI is that you can solve it 44:39 faster, better, and cheaper. 44:42 Right? It used to be you've got these 44:45 three things. Pick any two, right? You 44:47 can have it faster and better. Wait, you 44:49 can have it You can have it wait slower. 44:52 I don't whatever it is. I forget 44:54 [laughter] how I forget all the math of 44:56 that. But faster, better, cheaper. You 44:58 can now do all three. Quality, price, 45:00 and time. Yeah, exactly. Um, it used to 45:03 be that if you wanted it better, it 45:05 would take longer. Now it can be better 45:07 and fast and cheap. So, good, fast, 45:10 cheap. Yeah, exactly. 45:12 If there was a problem, yo, I'll solve 45:14 it. Yeah. I I mean that's that's the 45:16 thing. Some people are just problem 45:17 solvers and they make money because 45:19 they're like in any situation they're 45:20 like I can help you solve that. Now with 45:22 AI you can do that. So the the purpose 45:25 of the 15 minutes a day that I actually 45:27 agree with, right? Have a daily 45:29 practice. Jim Jim Ross sets his timer 45:32 for an hour. I've now decided to make 45:34 these sessions um a place where I can 45:38 practice my AI stuff on my projects. 45:41 Although tonight we haven't gotten there 45:42 yet. 45:44 >> [laughter] 45:45 >> All right, we're going to do Joyy's 45:47 video. Um, who's this from? This is from 45:50 Archetypal Architect. The fractal 45:51 architecture of consciousness. Let's go 45:53 look at this quick. 45:55 The foundation of being, microbial life, 45:58 sentient species, the rise of narrative. 46:00 Oh, this is cool. Augmented and creative 46:03 minds, digital gods, the fractal 46:05 pattern. 46:08 Let's see. Ecological networks. The con 46:13 mimemetic life forms transcending 46:14 biology. The Odin mind 46:17 known digital gods. 46:20 No layer is better. Each is simply less 46:22 blind than the one below it. That's 46:24 cool. Beautiful. All right, let's see. 46:28 Joy Pertie's video for homework. I 46:30 decided to remake this 40 secondond 46:32 video each year to track how AI models 46:36 evolve and how I grow as a filmmaker. 46:38 How cool is that? Mind your tabs. Am I 46:41 on the wrong Oh, yeah. Okay. 46:44 Mind it right now. Boom. It jump. 46:50 This is Joy Party. 46:53 Well, I remember this. I think I've seen 46:55 this. I I saw an earlier version of this 46:57 book. 47:29 Wow, that's super cool, man. AI is 47:33 getting so good, man. It really is. 47:48 So cool. Archetypal. That's what my 47:49 novel's all about. Oh, that's super cool 47:53 that your novel's all about. 47:55 [clears throat] Oh, now I know why it's 47:57 a a pile of pages. This is This is the 48:00 uh this is the plot of your novel. 48:03 [laughter] 48:05 It It's going to be a thick one. Yeah. 48:07 It's It's It's a thicker It's a thicker 48:10 book. It It's going to It's going to 48:12 take you a while. Yeah. Yeah. It's No, 48:15 it's it's a There's a lot there. It's 48:18 It's pretty much all the answers of the 48:20 universe. Well, all the questions and 48:22 then detailed answers of each one. Yeah. 48:26 Simple. [laughter] 48:29 Read the caption. Which caption? 48:32 [clears throat] 48:33 Book one is 850 pages. Wow. Amazing. 48:38 Okay. 48:39 Scroll up just a little. Oh, wait. 48:48 Oh, I see up here. 48:53 Since I first since I published the 48:55 first book of the novel series I've been 48:57 writing for several years, I had 48:59 notebook LM whip me up an infographic 49:01 that explores my fractal plot lines. 49:04 This one focuses on how evolution works 49:06 at many layers of existence. Wow, 49:10 cool. 49:13 You know, even with AI, this makes my 49:15 head hurt. [laughter] 49:19 It actually doesn't. It's actually 49:21 pretty it's it's pretty clear. It's 49:22 quite beautiful. I I I always admire 49:26 people that can take a big idea and and 49:28 follow it follow it forward. I suppose 49:31 I'm doing that a little bit with Sydney 49:33 with the musical. Um it's one of the 49:36 reasons I like having a partner is that 49:38 is that you can maintain momentum. I 49:40 feel like you archetypal are good at 49:42 doing this on your own, which is 49:43 amazing. The answer is 42. Imagine me 49:47 trying to keep it all straight. Um, way 49:50 past where the AI loses track. Oh my 49:52 god. I Yeah, like the the lack of the 49:57 the the context window problem where 50:00 where with large context windows, it 50:03 gets confused in the middle of of the 50:06 context window. I bet this was an 50:07 absolute nightmare to deal with. 50:11 Fascinating. Cool. Okay. So, anyway, so 50:13 where this is, we're over at the AI 50:15 salon and uh in uh if you come over here 50:18 and join, there's like four little 50:19 things to get started. The second one is 50:21 introduce yourself. You should do that. 50:23 You should look at our values of the 50:25 community. Um and then there's there's, 50:27 you know, events and community feed, and 50:29 then there's little different areas, 50:30 play and create, learn and grow, and 50:32 then advocacy and policy and and 50:34 partnership and things like that. So, 50:36 lots of things to do here. Um lots of 50:39 amazing people. So, go do that. 50:42 Okay, 50:44 [sighs] 50:46 notion. 50:48 Here we are, people. 50:52 We're here. So, let me orient you. 50:57 So, with the help I'm going to get rid 50:59 of this. Let's see. Move that to trash. 51:02 Okay. With the help of 51:06 Vicki, I'm still at the salon. Oh, I 51:08 gotta share a different hold, please. 51:15 >> [panting] 51:19 >> Okay, with the help of Vicki, 51:22 I set up a notion board where I've got 51:24 business areas and these are sort of my 51:27 higher level containers. So, I've got 51:30 Story Vine, I've got the Practice Engine 51:32 LLC, I've got the AI salon, I've got 51:35 Content Evolution, um I've got Kyle 51:38 Shannon Media. So, my writing projects 51:40 and things like that. And then 51:42 underneath these I have projects, 51:48 right? And so they sit inside. Well, I 51:51 only have two of them. So, part of the 51:53 work we're doing today is is populating 51:57 this. And so, I have an idea. 52:00 So, one of the cool things about Notion 52:03 now is that it's got this little dude at 52:06 the bottom. 52:07 this dude right here. And I What did I 52:10 name mine? I forget what I named him, 52:13 [laughter] but whatever. Doesn't matter. 52:17 Merlin or something stupid. Tik Tok pin. 52:20 You can do do it, Kyle. Deep breath. I 52:22 know. Jesus. I I I don't I so don't want 52:25 to be doing this. I so don't want to be 52:27 doing this. 52:29 [sighs] 52:30 DQ Blizzard. I'm over here now so I can 52:33 Harry. I called him Harry. That's right. 52:35 Thank you, Vicki. my second brain who 52:37 helped me set up notion also remembers 52:39 the name of my little AI dude Harry. So 52:42 Harry um you can ask him to do stuff for 52:46 you. So here's my idea. 52:49 My idea is rather than here's what I 52:51 would normally do pre- AAI days is I 52:55 would go up to this level. I would go to 52:57 my business areas and I'd look at these 53:00 and then I would go to my 53:04 finder 53:06 where I have these folders 53:11 and I got to do date modified and so 53:13 here they are all are at the top and so 53:16 I've got the AI salon I've got um which 53:20 I think is just a a hyperlink 53:24 a a reference to a another Google Drive 53:28 folder. Let's see. Start simple. 53:31 Is notion a website builder or an app on 53:34 my computer? 53:36 You 53:38 Vicki can answer that. I have no idea. I 53:42 know that notion is a relational 53:44 database. I know that it is what I'm 53:47 building right now is a fancy to-do 53:49 list, which I've already vibe coded a a 53:53 uh a project tracker to-do list thing. 53:56 So, there's a part of me that's wanting 53:58 to resist this because um 54:01 because I've already done this work and 54:03 I don't use that thing as much as I 54:04 should, but you know, whatever. Okay, 54:08 let's see. So, what I'm going to do 54:12 is I'm going to open these folders. 54:17 Going to close 54:19 any subfolders. 54:25 That one I'm going to leave closed. 54:34 Okay. [clears throat] 54:38 experiments I'm not going to worry about 54:40 right now, 54:42 but music I will. 54:47 Okay. So, I So, what I'm going to do is 54:48 this. I'm going to go 54:51 I'm going to screenshot this. I don't 54:53 know if you can see my little screenshot 54:54 window, but I've got a screenshot 54:55 window. So, I'm going to screenshot this 55:01 and I'm going to go to chat JPT 55:09 and I'm going to say create me a 55:14 [clears throat] 55:16 um 55:18 an outline 55:21 where 55:23 the top levels are the 55:28 business areas and the 55:33 subfolders 55:36 are projects. 55:38 Um, ignore 55:43 stand 55:46 alone 55:48 documents. 55:52 If they do not if they don't seem like 55:57 projects 56:00 [sighs and snorts] 56:01 I don't like this. Why why go to chat 56:04 GBT when you give give it to the notion 56:06 agent? Oh, I'll just shut up and watch. 56:21 Uh, let's try to do this in notion. 56:24 Okay. 56:26 So, I'm gonna Hey, Harry. I'm going to 56:28 paste in that thing for Harry. Did it 56:31 paste it in 56:33 image. 56:35 You've run out of free responses. 56:38 [laughter] 56:44 Vicki, this is the point where I 56:46 normally go great, [ __ ] it, and leave. 56:50 >> [laughter] 56:51 >> Oh my god. Okay, so I got to pay for it. 56:54 So I got to write a check. Shot collar. 56:57 Where's the damn shot caller? 57:02 Why is my mouth dry? 57:06 [sighs] 57:08 24 bucks a month. 57:13 All right. Thank you, Brandon. 57:17 Is this worth 24 bucks a month? Tom Tom 57:20 Nler laughing his ass off. [laughter] 57:24 [gasps] 57:25 Kelly Kelly, tell me it's worth it. It's 57:29 called Notion Anxiety. 57:32 I'm waiting for I'm waiting for Kelly 57:35 Camp to say it's worth 24 bucks a month. 57:38 I know, Vicki. I know it's worth it to 57:40 you, but you you've got skills that I 57:42 don't like. Like Like what's that one 57:45 called? Follow through. Oh, Kelly's 57:49 Kelly's gone silent on me. I'm on my own 57:51 here. All right, I think I'm going to do 57:53 it. 57:55 [sighs and gasps] 58:01 Just ask Harry for help. Is it worth it 58:04 not to? Well, I'm still going to have to 58:06 learn. You will acquire said skills. I 58:09 know. I know. I know. I know. Okay. 58:12 Everybody calm down. Everybody calm 58:15 down. This is not about you. [laughter] 58:19 Please agree to the terms of service. 58:22 How about you bite my butt? Okay. Use 58:24 your saved information. 58:29 Okay. 58:33 Vicky costs more than $24 a month. 58:36 That's true. [laughter] 58:38 Okay. I'm getting out of credit card. 58:40 I'm doing it. Oh my god, people. 58:45 >> [sighs] 58:46 >> just I I ache [laughter] 58:50 [clears throat] 58:51 [sighs] 58:53 and for whatever reason Notion can't 58:55 access any of my saved credit cards on 58:58 my machine. I'm having to manually type 59:00 everything in. This is every fiber of my 59:03 being is screaming run. Do not do this. 59:07 which is probably the this this is one 59:09 of the things that Liz Miller Gersfeld 59:12 talks about in our in our uh AI salon 59:15 mastermind practice lab is that you know 59:19 those things that are confronting to you 59:21 those things where there's upset and 59:23 angst there's generally gold on the 59:25 other side of that so yes thank you Liz 59:29 in my thank you Liz in my mind 59:32 [laughter] 59:36 Shannon's gonna make you sleep in the 59:38 garage tonight. 59:40 Oh my god. [laughter] I am following my 59:43 own advice and just going monthly. 59:52 All right, I think I'm almost there. 59:53 Brandon, [snorts] 59:55 wait. Hang on a sec. Plan. Okay. 59:59 Upcoming invoice. 1:00:02 Edit method. Okay, we're going. Welcome 1:00:04 to Notion. 1:00:07 All right, 1:00:10 back to 1:00:14 Does that have Okay, so wait, I'm in 1:00:17 business area. So, let me go up a layer. 1:00:21 So, I've got the image. Okay. Um, 1:00:25 here is an image 1:00:28 of my directories for my 1:00:34 business areas 1:00:37 and then projects 1:00:40 underneath them. By the way, the answer 1:00:42 to your question, Vicki, about why do I 1:00:45 go to chat GBT when I could just do it 1:00:47 in notion 1:00:49 is 1:00:51 I think it's basically just old guy 1:00:53 behavior or it's just maybe it's add 1:00:55 behavior where it's like 1:00:58 I know how to use 1:01:01 I know how to use chat GPT well enough 1:01:03 to to know predictably what it's going 1:01:06 to give me. And so if I know I need I 1:01:08 want a certain kind of input for some 1:01:10 other tool like one of the things that 1:01:13 frustrates me madly is I come to notion 1:01:16 to try this and then it isn't as good as 1:01:19 chatb and then then that drives me 1:01:21 crazy. So I tend to just use the tools 1:01:24 that I know which I know kind of flies 1:01:27 in the face of play with purpose but I'm 1:01:32 also just a dude. Okay. Muscle memory. 1:01:34 Yeah. Exactly. Um, where you are doesn't 1:01:37 matter as long as you tell it where to 1:01:38 put it. Okay, so let's see. Here's an 1:01:41 image of my directories for my business 1:01:43 areas and then projects underneath each 1:01:45 of them. 1:01:47 Um, there are some 1:01:52 stand alone docs that are not projects. 1:02:00 You can ignore them. 1:02:03 Um, 1:02:05 I want you to 1:02:11 modify 1:02:12 my business 1:02:16 areas and 1:02:18 projects 1:02:20 here to match 1:02:23 the hierarchy 1:02:27 higher 1:02:29 key 1:02:31 in the image. 1:02:33 All right. 1:02:34 Come on, Harry. Do me proud. 1:02:39 Oh, don't forget to say put them in the 1:02:41 project database. I didn't say that, but 1:02:43 it said something about databases. I 1:02:45 think I I saw. 1:02:50 Let's see how good Harry is, even 1:02:51 without my [laughter] 1:02:54 my Vicky recommended 1:02:56 specifics. 1:02:59 [clears throat] 1:03:03 Now you have a set calendar event to 1:03:05 cancel if you don't like it. Oh, that 1:03:08 would be so Mimi, that's really good. 1:03:10 That would be that would be a 1:03:12 responsible 1:03:14 um 1:03:16 practice like act. I think that's a 1:03:20 really good idea. That's a really good 1:03:21 idea. Okay, we're going to do that. In 1:03:24 fact, while Harry is crafting my notion, 1:03:28 let's go over to my calendar. 1:03:34 And this is Janu. So, wait, what's 1:03:35 today? Today is the 5th. So, I'm going 1:03:38 to go to February 4th. 1:03:44 And in the middle of the day, I'm going 1:03:47 to say 1:03:49 um cancel 1:03:52 notion 1:03:54 subscription 1:03:58 if you are not using it. Exclamation 1:04:01 point. Boom. Look at me acting like a 1:04:06 [ __ ] adult. [laughter] 1:04:11 I just tell Siri to do it for me. I have 1:04:14 so not used Siri. Siri I I've got I've 1:04:17 got Apple PTSD where I've been with 1:04:19 Apple long enough that I remember when 1:04:21 they used to be good and and that pretty 1:04:24 much ended when Steve Jobs died. And so 1:04:26 I've just been in a state of uh of 1:04:29 denial and and conscientious objector 1:04:33 ever since. 1:04:35 Okay. Does it say crafting? crapping or 1:04:38 crashing. Uh, crafting. Okay. Wait. Oh, 1:04:41 wait. Wait. What's going on here? It's 1:04:43 doing something. 1:04:48 What I changed? I renamed Oh, this is 1:04:50 cool. I renamed the business areas to 1:04:53 match the folder names. AI salon, KS 1:04:55 Writer, KS Finances, 1:04:57 KSAI Consulting, KS Monetizable 1:05:00 Projects. I created the missing business 1:05:03 areas of KS keynotes, speaking and 1:05:05 podcast appearances and KS music. I 1:05:08 updated the project to business 1:05:10 assignment areas where I could. 1:05:15 What's still missing? Your screenshot 1:05:17 shows additional project folders like AI 1:05:19 selling story vine and but those 1:05:21 projects do not currently exist as pages 1:05:23 in your project. Um yes. Yes. Create the 1:05:28 missing projects 1:05:31 in the project 1:05:34 database and ass and associate 1:05:42 associate 1:05:44 with 1:05:46 the 1:05:49 right business area. Okay. 1:05:54 So Harry said he did the work and now 1:05:56 Harry's gonna finish the work. 1:05:59 Serious crap now. [laughter] 1:06:05 So old guy behavior. Yes. Old guy 1:06:07 behavior is why I went to chat GBT. Now 1:06:10 listen, 1:06:11 if this actually does this 1:06:16 this this is one of those dopamine 1:06:18 moments where I'm going to continue 1:06:20 forward. Okay, 1:06:22 let's see. created and linked projects 1:06:24 under KS monetizable projects CE 1:06:27 collabad workshop storyline selling AI 1:06:30 festivist AI readiness training program 1:06:32 under KS keynote AI podcast under KS 1:06:35 writer feed 1:06:38 okay so in theory 1:06:42 we're going to go to business areas 1:06:46 and here's the things 1:06:50 oh you know what we're going to do we're 1:06:51 going to have Harry's going to help us 1:06:54 put appropriate emojis before before 1:06:57 [laughter] the other business areas. 1:06:59 I'm going to say, "Hey, Harry. Um, let's 1:07:02 see. Music and uh KS keynotes 1:07:10 have 1:07:13 fun emojis. 1:07:16 Make appropriate 1:07:19 emoji. 1:07:22 Emojis. 1:07:23 How do you spell emoji? Emo. Shut up. 1:07:26 Shut up. 1:07:28 He doesn't even know how to spell emoji. 1:07:30 I went on this thing called the AI 1:07:32 learning lab and 1:07:34 [snorts] I I thought I was expecting to 1:07:36 learn something and then but he didn't 1:07:38 even know how to spell emojis. It was 1:07:41 very concerning to me. All right. Make 1:07:43 appropriate emojis for the boring ones 1:07:48 [laughter] 1:07:49 icons. Kyle icons. Well, but they are 1:07:52 emojis. 1:07:54 Um, it puts the right icons in my 1:07:56 recipes. Love it. 1:08:00 [clears throat] 1:08:01 If you're new here, if you're trying to 1:08:02 figure out what the hell is going on, 1:08:06 this is the AI learning lab. I am using 1:08:09 this time to work on some personal stuff 1:08:12 that is stuff that like on a daily 1:08:15 basis. I want to be making progress 1:08:18 using AI to move my projects forward. 1:08:21 Um, and I want to do it like a practice. 1:08:23 And part of doing it like a practice 1:08:24 means doing stuff that feels distaste 1:08:28 justful. 1:08:30 [laughter] 1:08:33 [gasps] Okay. So now I've got consulting 1:08:35 is a handshake. Finances is a bag of 1:08:38 money. That's good. Keynotes is a is a 1:08:40 microphone. Monetizable projects is a 1:08:44 rocket. Music is music. Writer's 1:08:46 writing. And AI salon is a magic wand. 1:08:51 Um, AI salon is a community. 1:08:58 While 1:09:00 while I like the wand, 1:09:04 is there something better? 1:09:08 Help me, Harry. Help me. Help me, Harry. 1:09:13 [laughter] 1:09:15 I like the brain. 1:09:18 Oh, a martini for the salon vibe. Let's 1:09:22 go martini. Let's go martini. 1:09:26 Okay. Beautiful. 1:09:33 Done. And there it is. Done. Martini, 1:09:36 right? Okay. So, that's good. 1:09:39 [gasps] And then by theme. 1:09:44 Ah, 1:09:47 okay. So, now 1:09:51 my theme. 1:09:54 Does this have themes? 1:09:56 Yes. 1:09:59 Okay. So, we're gonna have Okay. So, so 1:10:01 what we set up here, what what Vicki 1:10:03 helped me set up was 1:10:06 here's our business areas. 1:10:09 I don't think we need status here 1:10:12 because these are business areas. So, 1:10:14 we're not going to have status. So, 1:10:15 status is not right. So, so Harry 1:10:19 remove 1:10:21 the status column. 1:10:26 Um, since these 1:10:31 [laughter] Let's use a martini since Hot 1:10:34 Pockets is not an emoji. That's good. 1:10:36 Okay. Remove the status column since 1:10:39 these are business areas, 1:10:43 not projects. 1:10:46 Um, 1:10:49 also I want you to take 1:10:53 a crack 1:10:54 at assigning 1:11:03 the correct theme for each business 1:11:08 area. 1:11:13 I might not need bit. I might not need 1:11:15 themes at this level either, but that's 1:11:17 okay. Let's see what it can do. Okay, so 1:11:21 Harry is gonna 1:11:23 Harry's going to help us get rid of that 1:11:25 column. I We probably don't need an 1:11:28 owner column. 1:11:31 Dates. We might need dates. I think 1:11:33 dates could be important. Yeah, dates is 1:11:35 really important. Like AI Festivus. 1:11:38 Well, AI Festivus is inside one of 1:11:39 these. Maybe it's not as important. 1:11:41 Okay. Priority and then theme. 1:11:45 All right. So, it hasn't done anything 1:11:47 with themes yet. 1:11:51 It's cooking. 1:12:00 Look, we no longer have status. That's 1:12:02 gone. I removed status. 1:12:07 It assigned themes. Let's see. Oh, look. 1:12:10 Look how cool that is. All right, Vicky 1:12:13 and Kelly and whoever the if Cindy 1:12:16 Coon's in here, you freaky people that 1:12:20 are like, I love Notion. Notion's great. 1:12:22 You should really try it. All right, 1:12:23 fine. I'm digging it. I'm digging this. 1:12:27 All right, AI, can I move these columns? 1:12:29 I bet I can. I bet I can just drag it, 1:12:31 right? Oh, yeah. Mhm. Yep. You see what 1:12:34 I'm saying there, people? 1:12:36 All right, let's get let's tell Harry um 1:12:39 since I am the only 1:12:43 owner 1:12:45 that column 1:12:50 seems dumb dumb. [laughter] 1:12:57 Let's Let's see if Harry can understand 1:12:59 stupid talk. 1:13:01 Vicki on YouTube. 1:13:04 Enough dopamine. 1:13:07 Getting there. Getting there, Vicki. But 1:13:10 I 1:13:14 I'm still 1:13:16 It's pretty cool. I'm tempted. I know, 1:13:19 Silver Fox. It's not bad. It's not bad. 1:13:22 It's listen, let let me tell you, my 1:13:25 expectations for what I was going to 1:13:27 have to do tonight was to go in and 1:13:29 manually change all the project names 1:13:31 and manually change or the the business 1:13:33 area names, manually change stuff. So, 1:13:36 the fact that it just did it and the 1:13:38 fact that it went on ahead and and gave 1:13:40 me theme suggestions. Wait, did it not? 1:13:43 It didn't understand what I wanted to do 1:13:45 there. Um, or did it? Let's see if it 1:13:47 removed the owner column. No, remove the 1:13:51 owner column. 1:13:57 So Harry Harry doesn't understand stupid 1:13:59 prompts. [laughter] 1:14:07 All right, that's gone. 1:14:09 And then there's priority. I don't even 1:14:11 know that we need that. So AI consulting 1:14:14 is AI amplified marketing. 1:14:18 Finances is monetizable content. 1:14:23 Yeah, that doesn't really fit nicely in 1:14:25 a theme, does it? AI salon people 1:14:28 centered project management. Yeah, these 1:14:30 don't really fit. 1:14:32 All right. So, I'll have to I'll I'll 1:14:34 have to deal with that. Okay. Now, let's 1:14:36 go look at projects. So, if I go where'd 1:14:40 I go? Go back to my control board. Oh, 1:14:42 Vicki, I have a question. How 1:14:46 these are all sort of 1:14:49 [sighs and gasps] 1:14:53 like projects is way down here at the 1:14:55 bottom like how this page is laid out 1:14:57 sucks 1:15:00 cuz I kind of want to see the hierarchy 1:15:02 like here's business areas and then 1:15:04 there's projects below that. Can I drag 1:15:07 this up here 1:15:09 like to here? Yes. Okay, fine. 1:15:14 Fine. 1:15:16 [laughter] 1:15:16 Tell Harry to fix the page layout. Um, 1:15:19 okay. 1:15:21 Harry, 1:15:24 the page layout 1:15:28 here 1:15:30 kind of sucks and is unintuitive. 1:15:37 Can you 1:15:39 help 1:15:42 me make it better? I am purposely 1:15:44 putting in a shitty prompt 1:15:47 because 1:15:51 we're all going to do shitty prompts and 1:15:53 so I'll I'll do the shittiest prompts 1:15:55 and then you can do Wait, what did it 1:15:58 What did it do? [laughter] 1:16:05 What? What's it doing? 1:16:09 It's doing all sorts of [ __ ] I abs 1:16:12 Absolutely. I reorganized the control 1:16:15 board. 1:16:18 Do next today. 1:16:22 And then I've got business areas. Here's 1:16:24 the projects I'm working on. 1:16:29 Well, this is kind of cool. 1:16:36 Um, 1:16:39 oh yeah, there's the business area 1:16:42 and I can sort by business area. Yeah, 1:16:47 to-do 1:16:50 in progress to-do complete. So, let's 1:16:53 see. Some of these are complete. 1:16:56 Okay, so wait. So, like the Kai Health 1:16:58 video is complete. 1:17:01 Um, 1:17:03 AI Festivus is complete. Although 1:17:05 there's stuff to do for Festivus. 1:17:08 Um, 1:17:12 in progress to do is not a category 1:17:16 here. 1:17:18 Vibe project [laughter] man Harry Eagles 1:17:20 vibe project management. That's pretty 1:17:22 good. 1:17:23 Um, 1:17:25 this one's complete. 1:17:29 CE collab story selling and futures book 1:17:33 project is complete. 1:17:42 Fetty is complete. 1:17:46 Okay. So, I'm going to say Harry. 1:17:51 This is great. This 1:17:55 is great. Um, but don't show me 1:18:02 complete 1:18:08 projects 1:18:12 and 1:18:23 PI let's see primary 1:18:28 sort should be on 1:18:33 business area 1:18:35 and then 1:18:39 alpha 1:18:46 for projects 1:18:51 in each biz 1:18:54 area. Okay. 1:18:58 So, I'm starting to I'm starting to No, 1:19:02 I'm not starting to get religion on 1:19:04 this. I'm starting to see that. 1:19:09 Okay. Here's what's really good about 1:19:11 this. Here's what's really good about 1:19:13 this. 1:19:15 One of the things that prevents me like 1:19:19 in in in my business in StoryVine, we 1:19:22 use Trello and someone who's good at 1:19:25 project management set up the Trello, 1:19:28 you [clears throat] know, workflow and 1:19:29 it's changed over the years and things 1:19:31 like that. But when I'm setting these 1:19:33 things up myself, 1:19:35 one of the things that drives me [ __ ] 1:19:37 insane 1:19:39 is I'll put together a structure and 1:19:43 then I'll start working with it and 1:19:45 realize that that structure doesn't 1:19:46 work. And then what I have to do is I 1:19:48 have to go, "Oh god." And I go to a 1:19:50 whiteboard and I'm like, "What order 1:19:53 should it be in? What should I do?" And 1:19:54 then I kind of have to map. What do I 1:19:56 need to undo? What do I need to rename? 1:19:58 what I need to and and then it just some 1:20:00 point I just abandon it because I don't 1:20:02 feel like doing that shitty work which 1:20:04 that's something I'm working on as a 1:20:06 human to just do the shitty work but 1:20:09 also if if a tool like this can do the 1:20:12 shitty work of like I have a new idea 1:20:15 for how I want to organize this I can 1:20:16 just tell it that's pretty cool that I 1:20:18 like that I'm digging Kyle thank you for 1:20:20 [laughter] everything you do you give me 1:20:22 the confidence to go 1:20:25 all all in on AI Hi, that's awesome, 1:20:28 Victor. Um, thank you. And in fact, I'm 1:20:31 going to I'm So, I'm trying to do 1:20:32 something here. 1:20:35 I am trying I am work working 1:20:38 [clears throat] 1:20:39 excuse me. I'm working really hard 1:20:44 to really take in acknowledgements. 1:20:49 Um, 1:20:50 I've had a fair amount of breakthroughs 1:20:53 in the past month or so. And one of the 1:20:55 things that I realized is that 1:20:58 because I have historically 1:21:00 disassociated myself from the things 1:21:03 I've created, I'm sitting in the, you 1:21:05 know, in the in the back seat, not 1:21:07 driving. 1:21:08 Um 1:21:11 I 1:21:13 I'm disassociated from the feedback that 1:21:17 I get from you all which is often and 1:21:20 it's quite generous and 1:21:23 it struck me how shitty and unfair it is 1:21:27 to all of you when you say nice things 1:21:29 to me that I don't actually take it in. 1:21:31 So So I just screenshotted that. So let 1:21:33 me show you something cool. 1:21:35 Um, I've now got I've got myself a 1:21:38 journal um for my daily practice and for 1:21:42 some coaching work I'm doing. And then I 1:21:45 have this I bought myself this really 1:21:47 cool 1:21:48 Japanese toolbox 1:21:52 and I'm just going to fill it like Cindy 1:21:54 [ __ ] has her bucket of um Post-it notes 1:21:58 that are [ __ ] she got done. This is 1:22:00 going to be filled with printed out or 1:22:03 handwritten acknowledgements that I get 1:22:05 from people. Um, and I'm gonna [ __ ] 1:22:08 fill this thing up. So, anyway, so thank 1:22:11 you for that. 1:22:13 I still get that. Good for you, Kyle. 1:22:15 Yeah, I know, right, Corey. It's like 1:22:16 I'm I'm sure you've got, you know, a 1:22:19 similar sort of thing where where you 1:22:20 get all sorts of acknowledgement and, 1:22:22 you know, if you're anything like me, 1:22:24 like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll get to 1:22:25 that. No, that's good. Thanks. Thanks. 1:22:27 That's terrific. I'm glad I, you know, 1:22:29 did that for you. That's great. I'm 1:22:31 going to I'm going to go make a pot now. 1:22:33 Um, [laughter] 1:22:34 so, so I totally get it. Okay, done. 1:22:38 Your project's view now hides anything 1:22:40 where it's status complete. Sorts by 1:22:43 business area first, then a toz within 1:22:44 each area. So, Harry understood what I 1:22:46 asked for. Now, let's go see if Harry 1:22:47 did it right. Let's close Harry. Oh, 1:22:50 look at that. That's so cool. 1:22:54 Keynote speaking. Okay. And so now, so 1:22:56 AI podcast. So I So now I need to Okay. 1:23:00 under keynotes. Uh under 1:23:03 keynotes, add a project 1:23:07 for 1:23:10 write 1:23:12 a keynote 1:23:16 presentation 1:23:19 as well as 1:23:22 um a project for 1:23:27 uh 1:23:29 [snorts] speakers bureau. Euros 1:23:35 spelled wrong, but it'll figure it out. 1:23:41 Okay, I think I'm digging this. I think 1:23:43 I'm digging this. Look how fast that was 1:23:46 just done. Like, okay. Okay, so look 1:23:49 people. 1:23:51 So, normally what I would have to do is 1:23:55 I would have to add a new page and then 1:23:58 it would it would add a thing and then I 1:24:00 would have to type stuff in and then I 1:24:01 would have to manually connect it to to 1:24:03 one of the business areas. 1:24:07 All right. Oh, I spelled it correctly. I 1:24:10 I inadvertently spelled bureaus 1:24:12 correctly. [laughter] That's good. 1:24:15 And then for any one of these I can 1:24:16 open. I still don't know what what to do 1:24:18 with these when they're open. Okay. And 1:24:20 then this status of to-do is wrong. So, 1:24:22 so status, what would be the status? Um, 1:24:30 so this is project status. 1:24:33 Project status. Project status. 1:24:38 Um, 1:24:41 oh, I know what I'm going to do. I'm 1:24:44 going to do EOS. 1:24:46 Okay. For project 1:24:52 for project status. 1:24:56 I want them to be 1:25:03 just starting 1:25:08 off track 1:25:13 on track 1:25:17 complete. 1:25:26 Change 1:25:28 anything 1:25:30 that is currently 1:25:40 in progress or to-do. 1:25:44 It's currently 1:25:47 in progress 1:25:51 or to-do. 1:26:00 We'll just start with on track 1:26:05 also. 1:26:07 On track 1:26:09 should be green. 1:26:15 Off track 1:26:18 should be yellow. 1:26:21 Um, 1:26:23 complete should be I don't know purple 1:26:28 and 1:26:30 just starting 1:26:32 should be 1:26:35 blue. 1:26:39 Um, 1:26:43 I also think we need a 1:26:53 status 1:26:55 called 1:26:57 um 1:27:02 [snorts] 1:27:05 um [ __ ] show on fire. Um, 1:27:11 okay. We'll call it [ __ ] show for now. 1:27:15 [ __ ] show. Um, that is red 1:27:21 for when a project 1:27:25 is in major 1:27:29 need of attention. 1:27:32 Okay. 1:27:34 Dumpster fire. I think dumpster fire is 1:27:36 better. [laughter] Dumpster fire is 1:27:38 good. Train wreck. Train wreck's not 1:27:40 bad. Dumpster fire is good. Okay, this 1:27:43 is good. I think [ __ ] show's a little 1:27:45 aggressive. I think [ __ ] shows a little 1:27:47 aggressive. Train wreck. I I think I'm 1:27:49 going to go train wreck. Not on hold. 1:27:51 It's not on hold, Kuno. It's This is 1:27:54 projects where it's like, you know those 1:27:57 projects where you just keep ignoring it 1:27:59 and you're like, "This is going to be 1:28:01 bad. This is going to be bad. If I keep 1:28:04 ignoring it, this is gonna be bad. And 1:28:05 then it is. [laughter] 1:28:13 Needs more than a band-aid. Exactly. 1:28:16 [laughter] 1:28:17 It's just a flesh wound. 1:28:24 Okay, let's go look. Do we have Do we 1:28:26 have um Look, everything's on track. 1:28:28 Look how awesome that is. But look, [ __ ] 1:28:31 show. I can make one a [ __ ] show. 1:28:33 [laughter] 1:28:36 That's so good. Just starting. This is 1:28:39 really good. This is really good. Okay, 1:28:42 so let's see. Uh Kai Health video. Okay, 1:28:44 it so this is complete. 1:28:48 Vetti is complete. So Oh, that's cool. 1:28:51 As as soon as I turn it to complete, it 1:28:53 makes it disappear. So it was smart 1:28:55 enough to know to do that. the AI 1:28:57 podcast, 1:28:59 that's going to be a keynote thing. So, 1:29:01 we'll call that one on track. We'll call 1:29:03 that one just starting. Uh speakers 1:29:06 bureaus, that's just starting. Uh write 1:29:10 a keynote presentation just starting. 1:29:12 10-person team workshop on track. I 1:29:15 would call that off track. That needs 1:29:17 attention. That's good. AI festivist on 1:29:20 track. 1:29:23 Launchpad workshop complete. complete 1:29:27 AI readiness training project. I think 1:29:29 that's on track. That's in pretty good 1:29:31 shape right now. CE collab is 1:29:37 that's mostly on track. Storyine selling 1:29:39 is off track. That's something I need to 1:29:42 get working on. So that is yellow. That 1:29:45 this color coding is working for me. I'm 1:29:47 liking this. AI futures is complete. 1:29:52 Feed your prompt. I would call that off 1:29:55 track because I changed the name of the 1:29:57 book again [laughter] 1:30:00 and Sydney is on track. So, this is 1:30:02 good. So, let's go ask Harry. Um, let's 1:30:07 change um 1:30:10 [ __ ] show. [laughter] 1:30:14 I think dumpster fire. Train wreck. 1:30:16 Dumpster. I think dumpster fire because 1:30:18 dumpster fire implies that you got to 1:30:19 put the fire out. two [laughter] 1:30:23 dumpster fire. Okay. All right. All 1:30:28 right. People, listen. For those of you 1:30:32 that are sitting there like, Kyle, 1:30:34 notion sucks. And and you're going to 1:30:36 hate it and you're never going to like 1:30:37 it. I am I am trending toward I think 1:30:42 this could be a very powerful tool. My 1:30:45 my instinct has always been 1:30:48 that this is going to be a nightmare to 1:30:50 set up. It is more of a nightmare than I 1:30:52 thought it would be, but having little 1:30:55 Harry here to just do my work for me, 1:30:57 I'm kind of digging Harry. All right, I 1:31:00 would need some completed stuff to stay 1:31:02 on the list so I can feel the payoff. 1:31:04 Well, don't forget these projects. Like, 1:31:06 I haven't even gotten to the to-do lists 1:31:09 underneath each one of these projects 1:31:11 yet. 1:31:12 Is this a paid version or free version? 1:31:15 Um, it was it was a free version until I 1:31:18 used Harry one too many times. And 1:31:21 [laughter] then and then Harry said, 1:31:23 actually right as I started tonight, I 1:31:25 went to ask Harry if he could reorganize 1:31:27 my projects. And Harry said, "Yeah, 1:31:30 you're gonna Hey, hey, I got a I got an 1:31:32 idea there for you, Kyle. How about 1:31:34 maybe you go [ __ ] yourself?" He didn't. 1:31:36 He Harry did not. He he said, "Unless 1:31:40 I'm giving him money there, he will not 1:31:42 be helping tonight." So, I went and I 1:31:44 forked out the money. And thanks, I 1:31:47 think it was Mimi's suggestion, I went 1:31:49 into my calendar and I made a calendar 1:31:52 event the day before this day next month 1:31:56 and said, "If you're not using motion, 1:31:57 cancel the subscription." 1:32:00 Harry has a damned attitude. He does. 1:32:03 Harry's got a bit of a He's got a bit of 1:32:05 a situation. 1:32:07 Dumpster fire. Love it. Look at that. 1:32:09 That's so good. [laughter] 1:32:11 Dumpster fire. So good. All right. 1:32:16 Okay. Now, 1:32:19 so now I have a container. 1:32:22 Let's see. Team 10erson team workshop. 1:32:26 We've got the keynote up there. 1:32:30 [sighs] 1:32:32 Festivus. We got collab. 1:32:35 Do I have my Oh, I do. Hang on. 1:32:40 Sometimes it's good to have a [ __ ] 1:32:43 shitty messy desk. See this? This This 1:32:48 is my map of all my projects that I did 1:32:52 in 1:32:55 Nano Banana. There's my brain. And then 1:32:58 here's all the projects that came out of 1:33:00 my brain. There's a lot of overlap here, 1:33:02 but I got a lot of [ __ ] going on. So, 1:33:04 let me look at this and see if there's 1:33:07 anything missing for my project. 1:33:09 Storyline mastermind. 1:33:12 Oh, practice engine LLC. Let's see. 1:33:16 Let me go to business areas. 1:33:24 I guess that's under AI salon. Okay, 1:33:28 let's see. Um, 1:33:31 under AI salon, 1:33:36 create a project Tik Tok pin. You need 1:33:40 three days before. 1:33:43 Oh, three days before. Sorry to say 1:33:44 that. Fine. I can fix that. [laughter] 1:33:49 Here, look. Here it is. Here. Cancel 1:33:51 notion subscription. Um, edit. 1:33:55 You want 3 days before? You got three 1:33:58 days before. Boom. Look at that. Done. 1:34:01 We don't screw around here. [laughter] 1:34:06 That was two days before. No, it was on 1:34:09 the 5th and now I made it for the 1:34:11 second. So that's three days before. It 1:34:13 was one day before and I made it two 1:34:14 more. I'm good. I'm good. 1:34:19 Kyle, how about doing emergent 1:34:23 one day vibe code? What? 1:34:27 I don't [laughter] know what that means. 1:34:28 Corey 1:34:32 demoing emergent. 1:34:35 Oh, it's like lovable. Oh, 1:34:39 okay. 1:34:42 I could do that. Well, let me wait. Let 1:34:43 me before I run and do that, I'm gonna 1:34:46 create a project called 1:34:48 um practice 1:34:51 engine. 1:34:54 Um 1:34:58 uh 1:35:00 product 1:35:03 practice engine offering. 1:35:07 Okay, 1:35:09 let me 1:35:11 looking ASL meetings. Okay, learning 1:35:14 lab. 1:35:16 Do I I don't have the learning lab in 1:35:17 here, do I? 1:35:21 And that should go under 1:35:25 I don't know. 1:35:32 Let's call Learning Lab a monetizable 1:35:35 project. We could 1:35:37 Well, this I I make 20 bucks a month on 1:35:40 AI Learning Lab. [laughter] 1:35:44 Occasionally, occasionally something 1:35:46 comes in. All right. Monetizable 1:35:48 projects. Yes. So, we'll put it under 1:35:50 that. Okay. under [clears throat] 1:35:54 monetizable 1:35:56 projects 1:35:57 um 1:36:00 create 1:36:02 project for AI learning 1:36:06 lab. Okay, [clears throat] 1:36:10 [sighs and gasps] 1:36:13 my darn thumbs and autocorrect are 1:36:15 horrors. 1:36:17 [laughter] 1:36:19 It's another vibe coding thing. 1:36:22 All right, beautiful. Vicki, yes. Is 1:36:25 that working well, Kelly? 1:36:28 Hey, Kyle. In solidarity, I'm having 1:36:30 Notion reorganize my entire database. Oh 1:36:33 my gosh, it's Harry Frank's evil twin 1:36:36 twin brother. [laughter] 1:36:41 It's been real fart, folks. But this old 1:36:43 fart has to go to bed. First day of 1:36:45 school for my kids tomorrow, so I'm up 1:36:47 at 5. Oh my god. Sorry about that. 1:36:49 Later. later, Tom. Okay. What time is 1:36:52 it? Oh, it's getting to be time. Um, 1:36:54 okay. Just added. So, let's go back to 1:36:57 control board. 1:36:59 So, our control board has this nice area 1:37:02 now. Look at all my projects, people. 1:37:08 Okay. now. 1:37:12 [panting] 1:37:19 So, let me add something. Okay, I've got 1:37:21 something 1:37:25 under AI podcast 1:37:30 project. 1:37:32 Add a to-do 1:37:38 for 1:37:43 this week 1:37:46 to 1:37:49 have AI 1:37:54 Gemini or chat 1:37:58 Gemini question work. 1:38:02 Generate a keynote 1:38:10 presentation outline out of 1:38:15 the transcript of the Michael 1:38:20 of the AI podcast 1:38:26 um of the AI podcast. Okay, let's see if 1:38:29 it does that. I mean, I know it'll do 1:38:32 that. Let's see if it makes sense what 1:38:33 it does. So, are you liking notion? 1:38:36 I don't know yet. I'm [clears throat] 1:38:40 I'm liking that I can tell Harry's my 1:38:43 little dude here. 1:38:46 I'm liking that I can tell Harry what I 1:38:47 want and it just does it. 1:38:52 I think I'm really going to like it 1:38:55 when I start populating all this stuff 1:38:58 and 1:39:01 populating it with notes and I I don't 1:39:04 know like I 1:39:07 I know that the more information that 1:39:10 goes into notion and then can get 1:39:12 assigned to these projects the more 1:39:14 powerful it's going to become. So, I'm 1:39:17 at the point right now where I'm like, 1:39:20 "Okay, here's the here's the metaphor. 1:39:24 I know that in the end what I want is a 1:39:26 giant life-sized statue of of maybe a 1:39:31 human being, but maybe a human being 1:39:33 with like a monster 1:39:35 parts." 1:39:38 And where I am right now is I'm like 1:39:40 I've got a roll of wire and I'm starting 1:39:43 to like bend the wire into the armature 1:39:45 for the like I'm just starting on one of 1:39:47 the feet. And so right now I've got like 1:39:50 some twisted up wire that's starting to 1:39:53 look like a foot a foot skeleton 1:39:57 [laughter] 1:39:57 that I'm going to put clay on. But I've 1:40:00 got like this whole rest of the thing to 1:40:04 imagine and build the structure for 1:40:07 before I even start putting clay on it. 1:40:09 So that's 1:40:11 and and where I am right now is Harry is 1:40:14 helping me bend the wire for the feet, 1:40:16 telling me what to do, you know, doing a 1:40:18 little bit of the work for me. Tik Tok 1:40:20 question. Um, the pin went away. 1:40:25 Are these just headings for projects 1:40:28 right now? But no info and files. That's 1:40:30 correct. Right now, help writing a 1:40:33 children's book for trauma. Recommended 1:40:35 AI. Literally doesn't matter. 1:40:39 Any of them are good. 1:40:41 Which one do you currently use? Is it I 1:40:45 mean, here's the thing about 1:40:51 people swear by Claude as being a better 1:40:54 writer. Um, but better writer is very 1:40:58 very subjective. You might see something 1:41:00 that Gemini writes and that resonates 1:41:02 more with you than something that Claude 1:41:04 writes. Also, all of these tools can be 1:41:07 modified to write more like you write by 1:41:10 prompting them smartly or writing system 1:41:13 instructions. So, it really doesn't 1:41:15 matter. I would say the two for for 1:41:17 writing a children's book right now that 1:41:19 I would recommend are Gemini and Chat 1:41:22 GPT because both of them have really 1:41:25 good image generation 1:41:27 um tools within them that can generate 1:41:30 text, can do car consistent characters. 1:41:33 Um and they're also really good at the 1:41:35 narrative. So I I would I would try 1:41:36 those two. Um Gemini or Chat GPT? I just 1:41:40 lost that that pin again. Could someone 1:41:42 pin that again? Um, have you ever tried 1:41:44 vibe coding to self-host to reduce 1:41:48 subscriptions? 1:41:52 No, 1:41:55 it's not a bad idea, 1:41:59 but if I wanted to do that, I would 1:42:01 probably just go to, you know, something 1:42:03 like 1:42:05 like the like uh what you call like Po. 1:42:08 Like Po lets you use lots of models. I 1:42:10 don't think I need to vibe code 1:42:12 something up where I can get access to 1:42:14 multiple subscriptions. 1:42:16 Um 1:42:18 I my problem with those kind of sites is 1:42:21 that they tend to be a compromise 1:42:25 from from the core site, right? Like 1:42:28 like PO, if you don't like the basic PO 1:42:32 interface and the and the the PO layout, 1:42:35 it's like that for every tool, right? 1:42:37 It's always the same for every tool. And 1:42:39 if you don't like it, you don't like it. 1:42:40 Like I just don't like the UI for PO. I 1:42:43 think they meant open source. Um Oh. Oh, 1:42:47 doing it with open source. I 1:42:50 I said this earlier. I just got a I'm a 1:42:53 Mac guy. And so I've been avoiding 1:42:57 open-source tools like the plague 1:42:59 because I don't have a machine powerful 1:43:01 enough to really run them and I don't 1:43:03 have the hard drive space to [laughter] 1:43:05 to to run them. I just got a gaming PC 1:43:08 yesterday and I set it up and I've I've 1:43:12 I've installed LM Studio and Pinocchio 1:43:15 and I'm gonna I'm gonna start playing 1:43:17 with open source models. Um 1:43:20 I don't have the time or patience to 1:43:22 really go deeply into that world. Um, 1:43:26 I also 1:43:29 [sighs and gasps] 1:43:32 the open- source stuff feels like it's 1:43:34 just behind like it's lagging just 1:43:36 behind the frontier model companies. Um, 1:43:39 I think there are probably some 1:43:41 arguments where there there might be 1:43:43 things like DeepSeek that are that are 1:43:45 ahead or at least in parody. Um, but I'm 1:43:48 not going to be able to run those 1:43:50 versions locally, right? like so so it's 1:43:53 like running things locally feels like a 1:43:57 compromise to me. So I don't know. So 1:43:59 that's where so where I am right now is 1:44:01 not really. It's not a bad idea though. 1:44:03 It's not a bad idea. And and you know, 1:44:05 quite frankly, in 2026, I would imagine 1:44:08 that the the efficiency of the models 1:44:12 might get to the point that a small 1:44:15 something that you can run on a gaming 1:44:16 PC without, you know, multiple graphics 1:44:19 cards um is good enough to do that. Like 1:44:22 I I think that could happen in 2026. Gen 1:44:25 Spark has gotten very good at layering 1:44:27 models and making them better. I I love 1:44:29 Gen Spark. I'm a huge fan of Gen Spark. 1:44:31 More controls, more choice. Its 1:44:33 personality is great. I I think Gen 1:44:35 Spark of of all the things I know that 1:44:38 Meta just bought Manis, which I find 1:44:40 mind-blowing, but good for Manis. Um I 1:44:44 like Gen Spark better than Manis. Um but 1:44:46 I think Manis is a bit more uh 1:44:51 like like I think of it like 1:44:55 like Gen Spark is kind of like 1:45:01 I was trying to think of a car metaphor. 1:45:03 I can't really. 1:45:09 Manis is like an erector set and Gen 1:45:12 Spark is like Legos. [laughter] 1:45:17 There you go. There's [laughter] your 1:45:19 There's your metaphor. There's your 1:45:22 toys. Toys from the 80s metaphor. 1:45:24 [laughter] Although erector sets from 1:45:26 the 50s. [clears throat] 1:45:28 Okay, 1:45:30 let's see. modify added for to-do for 1:45:34 this week use Gemini. So, if I go to AI 1:45:36 podcast now and I open this, hang on, 1:45:39 let me So, if I go here and I hit open, 1:45:45 where do I see 1:45:50 my task? 1:45:52 Tasks. Use Gemini. 1:45:55 The due date is January 9th. 1:46:01 All right. Hang on. 1:46:05 Let me close this. 1:46:19 This is a business area. 1:46:28 So, I'm going to go project work. 1:46:41 business area 1:46:47 status to do. Okay. 1:46:53 Okay. So, that kind of worked. [snorts] 1:46:56 So, then I think so you don't need to 1:46:58 watch me do this. I think my next my 1:47:01 next thing to do now 1:47:04 is to use Harry 1:47:08 to go put in all my to-dos, my tasks. 1:47:15 Ask Harry to add the task to the 1:47:17 projects. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm 1:47:18 going to do. GenSpark is more user 1:47:21 friendly. One more step. Yeah, exactly. 1:47:26 Exactly. and then I'll have that and 1:47:29 then Okay, so Vicki, so here's here's 1:47:31 one more question for tonight. 1:47:34 Um, 1:47:36 so I get that I've got now I've got it 1:47:38 set up with business areas, projects 1:47:40 underneath them. I've got overall status 1:47:43 of the projects if I want to look at 1:47:44 that, including dumpster fire. 1:47:47 Within the projects, I've got tasks, 1:47:50 I've got to-dos. I might rename tasks 1:47:53 something more, you know, less 1:47:55 businessy. 1:47:56 Um, 1:47:59 what else do you use 1:48:03 notion for? Like what are you putting in 1:48:06 the project pages or what are you 1:48:08 putting in like what other [ __ ] are you 1:48:11 putting in here? Because right now this 1:48:13 just is like a fancy to-do list and I 1:48:17 know it can do so so much more than 1:48:18 that. So, and anyone can answer this, 1:48:21 not just Vicki. If anyone uses notion, 1:48:24 I'd like to understand like what are the 1:48:26 other things I should be thinking about 1:48:28 populating this with 1:48:36 [clears throat] 1:48:37 mouse battery. 1:48:40 This is one of those beautiful Apple 1:48:42 mice where when you charge it, you can't 1:48:45 use it [laughter] 1:48:47 because they put the charging port on 1:48:49 the bottom where you use the mouse. 1:48:52 Resources, reminders to pay or stop 1:48:55 bills. 1:48:57 Resources like what? Like documents, 1:49:00 Vicki. Like you put like a word document 1:49:03 in here. 1:49:09 That's why I bought a trackpad. 1:49:12 All right, I'll I'll I'll start to 1:49:14 figure out what resources means next 1:49:16 time. 1:49:18 Okay, so 1:49:22 while I've got you here, 1:49:24 um I hope you enjoyed this. I hope you 1:49:28 enjoyed watching an old guy try to 1:49:31 install software. [laughter] 1:49:35 Welcome. Welcome to the AI learning lab 1:49:38 where you too can watch someone stumble 1:49:40 through life. Um, but listen, this is 1:49:43 how we learn, man. This is part of the 1:49:45 daily practice, part of how we get 1:49:48 better at this [ __ ] is you've got to sit 1:49:50 through the the uncomfortable stuff and 1:49:52 figure out if something is actually for 1:49:54 you. I may do all this work and 1:49:56 ultimately realize it ain't for me, but 1:49:59 I'm willing to go through it. I like I 1:50:01 feel like I owe I enough people that I 1:50:05 respect 1:50:06 have been telling me it's worth the 1:50:09 time, it's worth the investment that I'm 1:50:11 going to give it a shot. 1:50:13 Um, and it sucks going through it, 1:50:16 right? All my API keys are under the 1:50:19 tools they belong to. Oh, that's really 1:50:20 smart. That's really good. Okay, so 1:50:23 couple of things. If you did not see AI 1:50:26 Festivus, 1:50:27 you missed out on a huge thing. It was 1:50:29 24 hours of content over two days, 1:50:32 January 2 or December 26th and 27th. Um, 1:50:36 it was a really remarkable event. 1:50:38 There's a sneak preview of my musical 1:50:40 Sydney in there. Um, there's just all 1:50:43 sorts of very, very inspiring talks. you 1:50:46 can get the deluxe replay bundle which 1:50:49 includes all of the videos, all of the 1:50:52 transcripts, um, jellyod podcasts, 1:50:55 u just all sorts of stuff 1:50:58 from Festivus for 27 bucks. So, if you 1:51:02 go to aifestivist.com, 1:51:04 you can get the replay bundle for 27 1:51:06 bucks. Like, it is ridiculous how cheap 1:51:10 that is. So, go do that if you haven't. 1:51:13 even if you just want to support the 1:51:14 event because it was free to everyone 1:51:16 who watched it. Um, I want you to join 1:51:19 the AI salon. So, if you go to 1:51:20 community.thesalon.ai, 1:51:22 it's on screen right there. If you 1:51:24 haven't joined, go and join. Tomorrow 1:51:26 night, we've got our monthly meeting. 1:51:28 It's called AI Salon Presents. And we've 1:51:30 got about a dozen speakers from AI 1:51:33 Festivus who are coming back to tell us 1:51:36 what they talked about at Festivus and 1:51:38 um what they uh what they think is going 1:51:41 to happen in 2026. It's going to be 1:51:43 really cool. Um [clears throat] so 1:51:45 that's happening tomorrow night from 1:51:47 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. Mountain time. 1:51:51 So come do that. Uh and then the final 1:51:53 things um one of the groups within the 1:51:56 AI salon is called AI Life Hacks. that 1:51:59 that is hosted by producer Brandon um 1:52:02 and Claire Jacobs, Dr. Jay, and they put 1:52:05 together um 1:52:08 AI life hacks and they bring in people 1:52:10 to talk about that. So, so that's um 1:52:13 that's Wednesday night at at what 5 1:52:16 Mountain time, Brandon? Is that correct? 1:52:19 It's in the AI salon. If you go to 1:52:21 events, it's in there. 5:30. Okay. 1:52:24 And then finally, on January 17th, save 1:52:27 the date. It's a Saturday. Corey 1:52:29 Sandler, who's in the house tonight, is 1:52:32 going to be doing an LOL, a learn out 1:52:34 loud. And I think it's on it's on image 1:52:37 generation. Is that correct? My custom 1:52:40 GPT directory is in notion. Oh, cool. 1:52:43 Code blocks. Okay. Sorry. Still 1:52:46 remembering process templates. Proud of 1:52:48 you. Thank you, DQ. 1:52:51 I I'm proud of me, too. I got over a 1:52:54 hump of like I set this up with Vicki. 1:52:57 whatever it was a week ago and I haven't 1:52:59 touched it since because I was kind of 1:53:00 intimidated by oh I don't feel like 1:53:03 going in there and typing all those 1:53:04 project names and I didn't I just 1:53:07 screenshotted [laughter] my my finder 1:53:10 hierarchy and it matched it. So this now 1:53:13 matches my finder hierarchy. That's 1:53:15 super cool. And then yeah the Corey 1:53:17 Sandler um learn out loud is going to be 1:53:19 about image making. If you've not 1:53:21 watched how Corey 1:53:24 curates and and finds her voice with AI 1:53:28 images, it is really something to 1:53:30 behold. I haven't seen it in a while, so 1:53:31 that's great. Yes, Corey's doing image 1:53:33 generation iterations to rabbit holes. 1:53:35 Good. Yeah, she runs down creative 1:53:38 rabbit holes that I just I find it my 1:53:40 brain doesn't work that way. It's so 1:53:42 cool to watch someone who can do that 1:53:44 really well. Um, beautiful. All right, 1:53:49 fantastic everyone. Hope you had a good 1:53:51 time tonight. 1:53:52 This is what it's like to be in a in a 1:53:54 daily practice. You just you just do the 1:53:57 work. You just do the work. Sometimes 1:53:59 the work, you know, whatever it was 1:54:01 three, four nights ago, I was crying 1:54:03 like a baby. 1:54:05 Tonight it was kind of miserable. We got 1:54:07 we got some dopamine hits. Harry helped 1:54:10 us [laughter] through the through the 1:54:11 rough patches. I'm starting to see some 1:54:13 value in notion. Um, I don't quite get 1:54:17 it yet, but like all the stuff that 1:54:19 Vicki just said, she puts in notion, 1:54:21 it's starting to make sense. Prompts and 1:54:24 code snippets and API keys and all sorts 1:54:27 of [ __ ] like that. And when you have it 1:54:28 hooked into chat GPT, as Kelly Camp 1:54:32 does, and I assume Vicki does as well, 1:54:34 you can just be in chat GPT and be 1:54:37 updating [ __ ] and pulling [ __ ] out of 1:54:39 Notion. There's something really big 1:54:41 here. There's something good here. We 1:54:43 just we don't love it yet, but we 1:54:46 haven't given up. [laughter] 1:54:49 That's it. All right. So, we will vibe 1:54:52 code with emergent maybe tomorrow. 1:54:53 Sometime this week, we'll do that. Um, 1:54:57 beautiful. All right. Um, all have a 1:54:59 good night. Hope you had fun and uh I 1:55:01 will see you tomorrow. Bye.