10/9/2025 - From a Simple Guitar Lick to a Fully Produced AI-Generated Song

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1. 0:01[Music]
2. 0:18[Music] Is this place I can rest my forehead? [Music] Ging thoughts and sweet silence. [Music]
3. 0:33Is this place where the feelings on [Applause] exposure to violence? This is the place I can slowly face. The
4. 0:48only one I truly can know. These are tears from a long time ago. Got these tears from a long time ago. I need to cry 30 years or so.
5. 1:04These are tears for a long time. [Music] No. [Music] Oh darling, oh darling, you say unto me,
6. 1:25where have you been all my life? [Music] Well, I have been swimming the seven sad seas. Poor women have tossed me their
7. 1:40lifelines. I'd pull them into the waters. might have them, but I didn't know. These are tears from a long time ago.
8. 1:54Got these tears from a long time ago. I need to cry. 30 years old. So, these are tears from a long time. [Music]
9. 2:24Welcome, welcome, producer Brandon. Producer Brandon a little late tonight. Checking in a little late. Not a
10. 2:29problem. He's got a whole other show he does. Not just as producer, he's he's he's he's star of the show. And you're
11. 2:36like, well, producer Brandon's star of this show. I Exactly. He's busy. So there you have that. Dr. Jay, what's happening? What's shaking?
12. 2:45What's going down? Good evening, good people. Share the live if you would be so kind. [Music] You like that?
13. 3:01[Music] [Music]
14. 3:31[Music] What's Hello. Is this it? [Music] Wait.
15. 3:53[Music] Huh? [Music]
16. 4:22Is that higher? I think it's higher. [Music]
17. 4:38[Music] I can't remember those chords. What I can tell you is I'm as good at AI
18. 4:52as I am at guitar. He's not very good at guitar. What are we going to do? I It's called the AI learning lab. I would think he would
19. 5:07have some qualifications. I came in here to learn something about artificial intelligence. I heard from my work. I
20. 5:13don't work there anymore. They let us all go. But I heard from my work that artificial intelligence was the future.
21. 5:19And so I've come here for that. And he he claims to not know anything about it. [Music]
22. 5:54Wonder if I should turn that into Suno song. H I bet I can't remember it. I bet I can't remember it. Let's see if I can.
23. 6:08We're going to So, hello. We're going to share this tab instead because if we don't share the tab correctly, Brandon gets all sorts of
24. 6:18twisted up in a bunch. Cams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. cams, bars, black box thing. Okay. Wait, what was that?
25. 6:33Wait, [Music] that's all it is. Let's see what Suno
26. 6:50can do with that. We're going to add audio. We're going to record. We're going to turn my little microphone down toward my guitar.
27. 7:008 minute limit for audio uploads. I don't think we're going to come close to that. Okay, I got to give it permission. Oh my
28. 7:11god. Why does it dump it over to the iPhone all the time? All right, hang on. Hang on. Start over. Everybody just calm. Your browser
29. 7:23browser has lost connection. All right. I might not be able to We'll figure this out, people. [Music]
30. 7:51Wait. [Music] Okay. Let's see. I got to cut off the
31. 8:06beginning of this. Is it here? No, I don't think so. Let's see.
32. 8:36[Music]
33. 9:01Okay. He should be able to hear me now. Champy's at the top of his game. All right, here we go. I'm going try this again. Let me get
34. 9:15this wire out of the way. By the way, what we're doing here, if you didn't if you didn't know, because I
35. 9:23I didn't I just had a brain fart and I was just playing around on my [Music] I just came up with this little lick
36. 9:34that I thought was kind of interesting. And uh then I thought, "Oh, wonder what Sunoa could do with that as a song." So,
37. 9:40we're going to figure that out. [Music]
38. 10:00[Applause] [Music] Okay. [Music]
39. 10:27Okay, so we just recorded that crappy little lick played mediocre mediocrely. We're going to save that to library.
40. 10:42All right, lyrics. What does that sound like? We're not going to use human lyrics because why? Um, all right. We're going to go to
41. 10:53chat. JP Thai. Welcome everybody. If you're new here, how many folks are in here right now? Oh, just a handful. This is This is all
42. 11:01irregulars. You all know me. If anybody doesn't know me, I'm Kyle. This is the AI learning lab. We're gonna figure some
43. 11:06[ __ ] out tonight. Okay. Um, you're a Grammy awardw winning
44. 11:21lyricist. You know what would be nice is if I could upload that little lick to chat GPT and have it hear it. I could
45. 11:28probably do that over at at Gemini, couldn't I? your award-winning Grammy award-winning lyricist known for clever word play and
46. 11:46um profound imagery. All right, good. Isn't five multimodal? I I don't know if it can do audio like
47. 12:01song analysis. I've never tried it. We can You know what, producer Brandon, throw that on the purple post-it. Let's
48. 12:07try that next. Yes, you're late, Mr. It. It ruined everything. It ruined everything. Everyone was here. We were ready to
49. 12:15start. We lit the candles. Everybody was getting ready to blow them out. And someone was like, "Where's Mr. It?" So,
50. 12:22the candles just melted down. The cakes ruined. Anyway, welcome, welcome. Okay. Um, profound imagery. What does it sound like?
51. 12:37Um, [Music] I got it.
52. 12:52write a song about two people who haven't quite
53. 13:06decided if they are more than friends as they walk around a carnival.
54. 13:25a few hours before it opens. That's nice. All right, here we go. Soulpiercing lyricist. Oh, that's good. I should have
55. 13:39done that. The struggles of swimming upstream against the current. The current like salmon. That's good.
56. 13:47That's okay. Let's see what we got here. What's it called? Before the lights come on. I like that genre folk pop ballad
57. 13:54with cinematic imagery crossed between Phoebe Phoebe Brides and Paul Simon. The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
58. 14:01folded tight. We walk between the shadows and strings of halfway light. Ooh, strings of halfway light is beautiful. The popcorn stands are
59. 14:10dreaming of laughter. They'll be fed and your reflection in a puddles turning pink instead of red. Wow, that's beautiful.
60. 14:19You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this Kong. You smile like you know something. I know
61. 14:26I've already begun. Aw. Before the lights come on, before the crowd arrives, before we name what this
62. 14:34could be, before this the day survives, we linger in the middle. We linger in the middle where the maybe feels like
63. 14:44song. That's a great line. We linger in the middle where maybe feels like song to hearts not yet decided before the
64. 14:52lights come on. This is [ __ ] good. Okay, so let's copy all this. We don't need no stinking brains. Brains is tasty.
65. 15:05H you know that brains is tasty. That's Chichin Chong, by the way, if you're triggered because I'm making a
66. 15:16fun of someone. I'm not. I'm mimicking Chichin Chong. Okay. Um, okay. We're going to paste the lyrics here. We're
67. 15:23going to go grab the title. [Music] Do we want this to be a female or a male? I think it's from a point of view. Hang
68. 15:38on. Um, style influence. Okay. So, wait. So, we got to get the the style folk pop ballad with cinematic imagery. Oh, so, okay.
69. 15:51So, here's what we're going to do. I'm going to go back to chat. Oh, I haven't sw switched my tab. Okay, I'm back at
70. 15:56chat GBT. I'm going to grab um I'm going to grab this description and I'm going to have it kill the artist names. So,
71. 16:05I'm going to say, um, give me a new ve, that's not give. Give me a new music prompt that doesn't
72. 16:22include artists name but captures their styles as you intend. I want chat to to design
73. 16:38this song. Can you give Sunno? Can't you give Sunno the same name? Oh, the same. I could tell it to do this.
74. 16:48Yeah, but that's okay. It's captures. Captures. Okay. [Music]
75. 17:02Extend the lyrics. Four more versus female. Of course. Okay. Sarah Mclofflin cross crossed with Corey Sandler. I like
76. 17:09it. That's solid. Okay, great. Create Jesus Christ. Um, I need this as a simple 200 character prompt.
77. 17:25Good lord, you went overboard. Hey Corey, did you see Sarah Mclofflin
78. 17:42on uh on the Kelly Clarkson show singing her angel? Which which, you know, Kelly Clarkson was like, I can't I can't hear that song
79. 17:54anymore. I just think of Sad Puppies. Um but man, they sang they sang a duet and Kelly Clarkson's um harmonies on that
80. 18:03were [ __ ] she's incredible, man. Incredible. Um, by the way, is is audio Can you hear my voice good? Is it better
81. 18:12or worse than it has been for the past couple of weeks? I think this mic I got is is shittier. I don't know. Like I've
82. 18:19got either a bad cable or bad settings or something. Okay, it's okay. Okay, fine. Okay, now we're going back to Sununo and I'm
83. 18:30actually going to switch my screen this time. So, we're going to go down here. We're going to go style. We're going to pop that in there.
84. 18:38Bittersweet folk pop ballad set in a quiet carnival before dawn. I don't know what actually it'll be interesting to
85. 18:45soon see what Sunno does with that. If we get like some Collopy music or something. Two friends on the edge of
86. 18:51love, soft acoustic, ambient shimmer, tender vocals, nostalgic yet full of unspoken hope. Fine. Let's let's let's
87. 19:00see. Let's see how it do. All right. Um, so we'll go verse. I gota I got to put all these lyrics in
88. 19:14uh what you call it brackets. So hold please while I do some whatever this is called. Manuel labor.
89. 19:28We linger in the middle.
90. 19:44pre chorus bracketology. Yes, this is this is the bracketology. It's exactly what's happening here. Uh if you're new here,
91. 19:52how many folks here? We got some some new folks in. I'm Kyle Shannon. This the AI learning lab. What we're learning tonight
92. 19:59is I played a little teeny tiny just guitar lick. And then I thought about what it sounded like. And then I had Chat GPT write me some
93. 20:10lyrics and they were actually pretty [ __ ] good. Um because I've done this before and the lyrics are like laughingly bad, but this
94. 20:21was not bad. Okay, so we got that. Now we're going to scroll down here. We got our style. Advanced options. Exclude styles. No,
95. 20:33we'll do that. We're going to go female. Corey Sandler insisted. And if Corey says it's got to be a woman, it's got to
96. 20:39be a woman. You don't mess with her. You just don't do it. She can throw clay. Okay. She can throw clay. So, if you
97. 20:48think she's messing with you, she's not. So, we just do what she says. That's what we do around here. Weirdness.
98. 20:56Let's go. We're going to go up a little bit in weirdness. We'll go to 67. 67. There should be something that happens
99. 21:04there. If a Jenzer is nearby, they're probably laughing right now. Oh boy, I'll tell you. All right. And the song is called Before
100. 21:15the Lights Come On. All right. Here we go. Do you want to hear my Do you want to hear my uh Oh, no. That's not That's a different thing.
101. 21:25We're making new songs. Oh yeah, here's the recording. Oh, I didn't trim it. Dang it. That may not matter. Can I trim this?
102. 21:39Edit. I thought I did trim it. Maybe I didn't. I don't know. Whatever. Let's Let's just go see what what Sununo did.
103. 22:12[Music] Hang on. I got to reshare because when when my microphone took a dump. This is sounding like an amazing little song.
104. 22:24It sounded like like a really sweet sweet little song. I've been doing a lot of incredible guitar solos
105. 22:35in the call and response direction. Oh, that's cool. You can insert stage direction that can include a call and response solo to an
106. 22:45instrument. Oh, cool. Okay, here we go. Uh, record it. We're I mean, we're wherever we are. We're at
107. 22:52the beginning again. Here. Here's here's our little song with our with our not only poorly played little guitar piece,
108. 22:59but like the piece at the beginning that was just janky. [Music]
109. 23:15A ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway
110. 23:23light. The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed and your reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red.
111. 23:34You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know something.
112. 23:55>> Hold on. There's There's a There's an audio artifact in there. Yeah, we you lost it because I had two I had two shares up and uh
113. 24:08so something something was weird. Let's let's listen listen to the other one for a second. And then I think I want to go
114. 24:14edit. I think what I'm going to do is I'm going to edit the the jankiness out of the beginning and then remaster it.
115. 24:20And then we'll use that as the basis. [Music] >> The ferris wheels asleep. It arms still
116. 24:36folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands are dreaming
117. 24:44of the laughter they'll be fed in your reflection. In a puddle is turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty.
118. 24:56>> Wow, that's so cool. Okay, so let's go fix this recording and make another couple of couple of couple of actions.
119. 25:04What's going on? Why can I not go edit this? Open an editor. [Music] In the studio, you have complete DAW
120. 25:19controls and you can clone your voice, too. Yeah, I haven't really dug into um all the stuff you can do now in Sunno.
121. 25:27Here's the part that's [ __ ] up. Let's hear. Listen. Okay, that was bad. So, can I just delete this? No, of course not. Oh, wait. I did.
122. 25:40Okay, there's that click. So, let's get rid of Let's get rid of I think I have this twice. So, let me grab that. Oh, no. That's not right.
123. 25:54No. Oh, okay. I see what I can do. How do I grab the end of this?
124. 26:19Um, can I zoom in? Yes. [Music]
125. 26:51[Music]
126. 27:20Um, save his new song. 23 second. Wait, 23 seconds. I don't think it's that long. Anyway, all right.
127. 27:35Maybe it is. All right. And then we're going to go. This is it, I think. Oh, you're not seeing this. Share this tab instead. [Music]
128. 27:50All right. Um, who knows why it's given that pop. Let's remaster it and see if it depopifies it. So, we're going to go
129. 28:05remixedit. We're going to go create remaster.
130. 28:19Remaster remastered successfully. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Remastering clip. Where's our remaster?
131. 28:39[Laughter] Remastered. Okay. Oh, there's two of them. [Music]
132. 28:55Okay. [Music] That was good.
133. 29:11Right. I like that weird [ __ ] it did with it. Okay. So, this one we're now going to go
134. 29:28cover, right? We're going to cover this one. All right. So, it's loading that there. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful.
135. 29:43And then we got to go back to chat jeep and I need to get my style prompt. So we're So there's our style prompt and
136. 29:56then we got to go back and get our lyrics. Oh crap. Oh, you know what I can do? I can go to this other song where it's got
137. 30:08the lyrics in there. before the lights come on and I can go get me some lyrics. Um, yeah, there we go.
138. 30:23Now I don't have to do the editing. Copy. And then I go back. Did I lose everything? No. I pop my new lyrics in.
139. 30:37All right. Fantastic Bob. And then I go down to our advanced options and we put in a little lady. We do the
140. 30:47weirdness up a little bit like we talked about. Audio influence, we're going to leave it 25. Style influence, we're going to
141. 30:55leave it 50. That's fine. And then we need our song title before the lights come on. before the lights come on.
142. 31:19Yeah, I guess that's good. Okay. Create. Now we should have a song that's similar to what we had before, but without the
143. 31:28popping the popping stuff. Hopefully it's kind of like that because I'll I'll do a a remaster of this one
144. 31:43because this one's really cute. It has that little pop in it. So, we'll rem Actually, you know what? Let's just
145. 31:57[ __ ] it. Let's go remaster that one right now. remaster.
146. 32:12All right, that one's getting remastered. And then we've got [Music]
147. 32:35The ferris wheels asleep arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway
148. 32:43light. The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter. They'll be fed in your reflection in a puddle's turning pink
149. 32:52instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know something
150. 33:08I don't know. I've already begun. Before the lights come on before the crowd arrives. [Music]
151. 33:25Why am I getting goosebumps? AI can't be creative. AI can't be creative. The the trolls come in here and they
152. 33:37tell us this night after night after night. It can't do anything original. It can't do anything creative.
153. 33:43Sorry. Yes, it can. Holy [ __ ] That was really good. Um, it was a little little janky, but but really beautiful. Let's hear this one.
154. 33:55[Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
155. 34:12folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands are dreaming
156. 34:20of the laughter they'll be fed. And your reflection in a puddle is turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty.
157. 34:32I say it's strange. >> All right, let's I want to We've got to add a little something to this. Um, it's completely changed it. Yeah,
158. 34:43exactly. That one, that one was completely changed. Let me go see if I can find the remaster here of that original one. That was really
159. 34:54sweet. Yeah, here we go. Before the lights come on remastered Tik Tok pin. I got goodies on Oh, I got gooseies on
160. 35:06my recent songs. I I I I created YouTube channel called sleep to house them. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah.
161. 35:17I you know, it's funny. I was talking to my friend Steve today and he was saying something about, you know, it not being
162. 35:24able to have a novel thought. And I was like, well, how do we have novel thoughts, right? He goes he goes
163. 35:33he goes how can it have a novel thought if it's only been trained on things in from the past and I'm like how does our
164. 35:41brain work? Like what's it been trained on? Things from the past, right? Like we [ __ ] went in our head when we were eight
165. 35:51and when we were five and when we were 13 and then we learned to play a song at 27 and then we wrote a song at 28 and then we got
166. 36:01stalked by some crazy [ __ ] in New York and then right all that shit's in the past but it's in there somewhere
167. 36:11and how do you get it out? I don't know. You have you you create some sort of probability calculator that when someone gives you a a prompt,
168. 36:20you you have a bunch of tokens that get zapped together and spit it out remarkably like a large language model.
169. 36:32Jeff Flanigan, I live in the past like a lot. Most people do. Most people do. Um it's great. I created lullabibies with
170. 36:41both lyrics and instruments. They're killer good. Now you have eight hours of it. That's awesome, man. All right,
171. 36:47let's let's listen to this remaster. The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
172. 37:01folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands a dreaming of
173. 37:09the laughter they'll be fed and your reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty.
174. 37:21I say it's strange to feel his calm. You smile like you know something I don't know I've already begun. M
175. 37:37before the lights come on. Before the crowd arrives, before we name what this could be, before the day survives, we
176. 37:46linger in the middle where the maybe feels like song. Two hearts not yet decided. Before the lights come on, [Music]
177. 38:03a prize bear in the windows got a rip along the seam. You laugh and say he's just like me, stitched up from a dream. [Music]
178. 38:19>> Huh. Okay. Not crazy about it. It's okay. Okay, it's good. It's good. Let's we Let's We got to go create something
179. 38:27remarkable. Like the seed here is really good. So, let's go change this bittersweet folk pop ballad. I'm going to say with um hints of
180. 38:42carnival music. We're not going to put the story in here. Music. soft acoustic, ambient shimmer, tender vocals, nostalgic
181. 38:58yet full of unspoken hope. Um, the song starts sweetly and builds
182. 39:17with drama and joy. Boom. Oh, and I want to do another version. So, there's two of those going. I want to pull down the weirdness
183. 39:32and I want to increase the style influence. We're going to flip those two and we're going to create those. Okay,
184. 39:39here we go. Lannis Moriceet. It's got a little of that in there. Electro Synth. Can someone drop the genre info he's
185. 39:47using? So, the genre info that I wrote, I'll put it uh I'll I'll drop it in YouTube and then um and then if someone could dump that over
186. 40:00to TikTok, that would be great. There's YouTube. Um there you go. That's the That's the prompt. All right, let's Well, let's see
187. 40:08how good the prompt Let's see how good it is. So, hopefully it keeps a little of my original guitar in there. [Music]
188. 40:38The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between >> that still had some weird uh uh popping
189. 40:54and audio [ __ ] in it. I wonder if it it might be my browser session where it's actually not in You know what I'm
190. 41:02going to do? No, Kyle. What? I'm going to download that. I'm going to download that MP3 and see if it's still got the artifacts in it.
191. 41:13It might be my browser because I haven't restarted my browser in a while. >> Oh, it's Oh, well.
192. 41:28The ferris wheels asleep, it arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway. The
193. 41:37popcorn stands a dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed in your reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red.
194. 41:47You can just imagine this video, right? Like two like two young little sweet, you know, like teens or early 20s
195. 41:56walking, you know, walking down like a dirt road carnival. People are getting ready in the background. Lights are
196. 42:04coming on here and there. There's lights in the puddles. You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this calm.
197. 42:19You smile like you know something I don't know. I've already beun. Before the lights come on and before the
198. 42:32crowd arrives. Before we name what this could be. Before the day survives, we linger in the middle where the maybe
199. 42:42feels like song. Two hearts not yet decided before the lights come on. [Applause] [Music] [Applause]
200. 42:56All right. I I This must be Hang on. I just downloaded two two things. Let Let me just listen to him quick.
201. 43:07YouTube, you're not going to hear this probably. [Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
202. 43:24folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands a dreaming of
203. 43:33the laughter. They'll be fed in your reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange.
204. 43:47>> All right. Um I think it's better. I don't know. Okay. Whatever. Okay. Back to this. Let's hear the other versions. [Music]
205. 44:02in there. I think we're just going to have to accept it. [Music] >> That was horrible. [Music]
206. 44:21>> The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway
207. 44:29light. The popcorn stands a dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed in your reflection in a puddle's turning pink
208. 44:38instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know
209. 44:46something. I don't know. I've already begun. Before the lights come on, before the crowd arrives, before we name what this
210. 45:00could be, before the day survives, we linger in the middle where the maybe feels like song. Two hearts not yet decided
211. 45:16before the lights come on. [Music] A prize bear in the windows got a rip along the seam. You laugh and say he's
212. 45:33just like me, stitched up from a dream. The smell of rain and sawdust makes the air taste almost sweet. I count your
213. 45:41footsteps next to mine. They nearly match the bead. You toss a coin, it spins between the quiet and the breeze.
214. 45:50It lands on something fragile, something trembling between me. Before the lights come on, before the noise begins, before
215. 46:01the world demands, we choose where all this story ends. We're written in the margin where the ink's still barely strong. [Music]
216. 46:14Two souls half in the promise before the lights come on. >> All right, we're gonna I think it needs to be a little punchier. So, bittersweet
217. 46:25folk pop, rock ballad with hints of carnival music. I'm going to kill soft acoustic. We'll leave ambient shimmer,
218. 46:41tender vocals, nostalgic yet full of unspoken hope. The song starts sweetly and builds builds, let's say, to a joyful beat.
219. 46:56All right. Seeing their children's children on the rides while their grandparents wearing huge smiles. Kyle,
220. 47:02seriously, a bit of an Irish low with boron and penny whistle. Ah, yeah. Okay, this is good. Um, I'm just going
221. 47:10to add that at the end. A bit of an Irish lil with I don't know what a boron is. Boron and penny whistle. Boron
222. 47:25and penny whistle. That's cool. I like that. I love music nights. I know. This is fun, right? I didn't plan on this. Irish
223. 47:36drum. Oh, yeah. That's good. Uh like uh let's see. Um poke ball pad with hints of carnival music
224. 47:52and an Irish lil with boron. Oh, that's the hand drum. Got it. Irish drums with boron and penny whistle ambient shimmer tender vocals.
225. 48:08Okay. Okay. This should be good. This should give it a little bit of magic. This should give it a little bit of
226. 48:18magic. And hopefully because it's going to have a bit more of a drive to it, we won't get that clicking and popping
227. 48:27because I think that's from my original my original file introduced that. And Brandon's point's a good one. It kind of
228. 48:34sounds like an old crackly album. [Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
229. 48:49folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of half. the popcorn. [Music]
230. 49:07>> The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway
231. 49:16light. The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed and your reflection in a puddle's turning pink
232. 49:24instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know
233. 49:39I don't know. [Music] >> I don't quite like that one. I want to go back. I want to hear that remaster one. The cute little remaster.
234. 49:56[Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the
235. 50:11shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed and your
236. 50:19reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange to see [Music] this calm.
237. 50:34You smile. >> Can you switch time signatures? I think that is in three, isn't it? D. [Music]
238. 50:53>> Before the lights come on, before the crowd, before we name what this could be before the day survives, we'll linger in the
239. 51:03middle where the feels. >> I think it is a six. The drive is now 44 though it's underlying 68. Yeah. But how can I change that? That I don't
240. 51:19know. Have you done that, Corey? Like what what would I prompt? Do I do that as a as a cover or a remaster and then
241. 51:26change the time signature? I don't know how to do that. If anyone knows how to do that, tell me. Um, all right, let's
242. 51:31go. I changed the prompt here from bittersweet folk pop rock to just bittersweet folk rock. [Music]
243. 51:50The ferris wheels arms folded tight. >> Is that in the song? This is what I can't figure out. [Music]
244. 52:05>> The ferris wheels asleep. It's arms folded tight between >> that those cracks are not in the songs. They're >> they're in the playback.
245. 52:19[Music] >> The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed and your reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red.
246. 52:33You say it's strange to see it empty. [Music] I say it's strange. [Music] >> Yeah, it's a glitch. There's a glitch in
247. 52:45it, but like when I replay the same section, the glitches are in different spots. [Music] >> You say it's strange to see it empty.
248. 53:03I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know something I don't know I've already begun.
249. 53:16Before the lights come on before the crowd arrives. Before we name what this could be before the day surides.
250. 53:26We linger in the middle where the maybe feels like song. Two hearts might get decided before the lights come on. >> Nice. Nice.
251. 53:40A prize bear in the windows. Got a rip along the seam. You laugh and say, stitched up from a dream. The smell of
252. 53:50rain and sawdust makes the air taste almost sweet. I count your footsteps next to mine. They nearly match the beach.
253. 54:00You toss a coin, it spins between the quiet and the breeze. It lands on something fragile. Something trembling between.
254. 54:13Before the lights come on, before the noise begins, before the world demands, we choose where all this story ends.
255. 54:23We're written in the margin. Where the ink still barely strong [Music] before the lights come on. God damn. That's a good song. Those
256. 54:35lyrics are good, man. Um, okay. So, that got a thumbs up. That's pretty good. I like the driving thing. I just tried to
257. 54:41do two more in 68. So, let's hear this this other one. That's the indie indie rock. [Music]
258. 54:56The ferris wheels asleep. It arms still folded tight. >> There. You just asked for it, Cy. There's your alto.
259. 55:08>> The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter. They'll be fed in your reflection in her puddles turning pink instead of red. [Music]
260. 55:22Suno's got that weird thing where it just it does that weird sort of octave. It does that in a lot of songs. It's
261. 55:31weird. It's very It's very kind of a telltale sign of a sunos. >> Let's try these other ones. These are
262. 55:38the ones I prompted in 68. We'll see if they're in 68. [Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
263. 55:54folded tight. We walk between the strings of halfway. The popcorn stands fed. [Music]
264. 56:18The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway
265. 56:27light. The popcorn stands a dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed in your reflection in a puddle turning pink instead of red.
266. 56:40You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this come. You smile like you know something.
267. 56:55I don't know. I've already begun. Before the lights come on. Before the crowd arrives. Before we name what this could be.
268. 57:14I think I'm killing the soul of this thing. I'm going to pull out the bittersweet. Like, I feel like the earlier versions
269. 57:24that were more simple are really what this song's about, but I think it's worth exploring. [Music]
270. 57:43The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway
271. 57:51light. The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter. They'll be fed in your reflection. And a puddle's turning pink
272. 58:00instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this. >> You know what the thing is? The lyrics.
273. 58:12It's strange to see it empty when there's a bunch of instruments underneath that. It doesn't have that same kind of haunting feeling of it
274. 58:21being empty. It feels not empty. So, I think we've got to I think we have to re
275. 58:36The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway
276. 58:45light. The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter. They'll be fed in your reflection in a puddles turning pink
277. 58:53instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know something I
278. 59:08don't know. I've already begun. Before the lights come on. Before the crowd arrives. Before we name what this
279. 59:19could be. Before the day survives. We linger in the middle. Where the navy feels like song. Two hearts not yet.
280. 59:31>> All right, I'm gonna try that. Corey, cello and acoustic guitar could work good with this. Yeah, now this is just a
281. 59:36Disney song. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, we're we're uh we're bleeding the life out of it. But, you know, this is
282. 59:43like the cool thing is we have all the previous versions so we can go back. This is so you know if you wonder like
283. 59:51I'm working on this musical Sydney and we've written a you know a a fair amount of the songs have been written in some version of this where
284. 1:00:02but the difference in a musical is we know we know exactly the emotion that we want for a particular scene
285. 1:00:10and it's a lot of it's a lot of just cranking through dozens and dozens and dozens thousands of these until you get
286. 1:00:17something that's close and then you kind of circle around the drain for a while. It take it it's it's a bizarre process. Um,
287. 1:00:27but it's like I you know I kind of feel like the people that say that this isn't a creative process haven't done it
288. 1:00:36right. Like it's like this is a weird song. Like I didn't write the lyrics. I wrote the little guitar lick, but that's not writing a song.
289. 1:00:45But that first thing that we got out of it was really kind of magical, right? And so it's like, can you make it better
290. 1:00:52without losing the magic? And that's that's part of the art. And maybe maybe not. Maybe you don't end up with anything usable out of this.
291. 1:01:04[Music] [Applause] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the
292. 1:01:18shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed. Your
293. 1:01:26reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this calm.
294. 1:01:40You smile like you know something. I don't know. I've already begun. Before the lights come on, before the
295. 1:01:51crowd arrives, before we name what this could be, before the day. [Music] >> All right, that's not bad. I I did two
296. 1:02:03versions with um with I added obo for you, Corey, the key changes of crime against humanity. This is songwriting by committee.
297. 1:02:18[Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between
298. 1:02:32>> No, she sounds too sure of herself right there. Right. Like the the magic of it was it was like this young woman in this wistful place.
299. 1:02:43Here's Obo. inary. [Music]
300. 1:03:04The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway
301. 1:03:13light. The popcorn stands are dreaming of the laughter they'll be fed. And your reflection in a puddle's turning pink
302. 1:03:21instead of red. You say it strange to see it empty. I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know something I
303. 1:03:37don't know. I've already begun. Before the lights come on, before the crowd arrives, before we >> No, the chorus sucks.
304. 1:03:51[Music]
305. 1:04:07Incredibles asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows
306. 1:04:21and strings of halfway light. [Music] The popcorn stands are dreaming [Music] of the laughter. They'll be fair
307. 1:04:36and your reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty.
308. 1:04:51I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know I don't know I've already begun.
309. 1:05:06The percussion throughout can match visuals. Oh man, I thought Kenny Rogers. Yeah, that had a Kenny Rogers thing to it.
310. 1:05:14Minor key and slow lead to a power rise. You can direct the transition of key changes from minor to major. Huh, that's cool.
311. 1:05:28All right, let's This is new thing. Minimalist folk with cello and acoustic guitar and obo in 68 with hints of carnival music, ambient
312. 1:05:40shimmer, tender vocals, nostalgic yet full of unspoken hope. Um, yeah, that's all right. [Music]
313. 1:05:57The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway. The
314. 1:06:06popcorn stands are dreaming. >> Minimalist is key. I don't like that melody, but minimalist is really good.
315. 1:06:13That's And it's it's got like all that processing on the vocals. All the all the reverb and ambience in the vocals.
316. 1:06:19That's That's what gives it that empty feeling. That's good. [Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
317. 1:06:36folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands are dreaming
318. 1:06:45of the laughter they'll be fed and your reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red. [Music] You say it's strange to see it empty.
319. 1:07:01I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know something I don't know. I've already begun.
320. 1:07:16Before the lights come on, before the crowd arrives, before we name what this could be, before the day survives, we
321. 1:07:26linger in the middle where the maybe feels like song. Two hearts not yet decided before the lights come on.
322. 1:07:40Yeah, let's get this baked, Corey. And you should absolutely cover it. You should absolutely cover it.
323. 1:07:48And also, anyone wants to make a video of this. This is I can see this video so clearly, right? This is just, you know,
324. 1:07:56morning. Sun's just coming up. Fog's lifting off the fields. Carnival. Whoever had the idea about like zoom in
325. 1:08:04on the the merrygoround with the horses on it and then old guys there dusting them off, wiping the moisture off.
326. 1:08:11These two just walking gently through the That's really cool. [Music] in the windows. Got a rip along the
327. 1:08:25seam. You laugh and say he's just like me, stitched up from a dream. The smell of rain and sawdust makes the air taste
328. 1:08:34almost sweet. I count your footsteps next to mine. They nearly match the beat. You toss a me stitched up from a
329. 1:08:43dream. The smell of rain and sawdust makes the air taste almost sweet. I count your footsteps next to mine. They
330. 1:08:52nearly match the beat. You toss a coin, it spins between the quiet and the breeze. It lands on something fragile,
331. 1:09:01something trembling between. Before the lights come on, before the noise begins, before the world demands,
332. 1:09:12we choose where all this story ends. We're written in the margin where the ink's still barely strong. Two souls half in the promise
333. 1:09:25before the lights come on. [Music] Cotton candy ghost the whisper of a
334. 1:09:40secret that your hand could hold but hasn't yet tried. If I breathe too loud I'll break the spell we've spun.
335. 1:09:51A heartbeat before gravity decides which way we run. Before the lights come on, before the sky turns gold. Before our voices learn
336. 1:10:05the lines they're scared to have told. Let's walk this midway silence till the dawn is found. And maybe we'll decide it. Before
337. 1:10:21the lights come on [Music] one. [Music]
338. 1:10:38>> That's the one. Damn. Damn. That's good. All right, let's download. We'll download the video. Video will be
339. 1:10:51downloaded after the generation. Let me grab the MP3. Download the MP3. Let me give that a thumbs up and let me publish it. Publish.
340. 1:11:08Um, let's see. Replace image. Upload prompt for an AI generated image. Um, young
341. 1:11:24couple walk side by side at dawn down a dusty
342. 1:11:42carnival road with Um, ferris wheel in
343. 1:11:59the background. Um, bold color film stock
344. 1:12:13with light bleed. [Music] dee.
345. 1:12:31[Music]
346. 1:12:53All right, that's good enough.
347. 1:13:14Add a video. Yeah. Let's see. Caption. Um,
348. 1:13:31let's see. created in collaboration with the irregulars.
349. 1:13:49Yes. All right. Publish. So that's now published. So you should be able to go search for before the lights come on.
350. 1:14:04And then let me share this. Share. Copy link. Let me go to the AI cell.
351. 1:14:20I'm going to put it in. Look what I made. You know, it's it's a good song when you
352. 1:14:36stop playing it and then you immediately start singing it again. You know what I'm saying? Mhm. Why did that not make So, wait, what's
353. 1:14:48this called? Before the lights come on. Um, why do I not have an image there? That sucks.
354. 1:15:12Can I copy this? Paste it. I don't think so.
355. 1:15:28[Music] Paste. Did it work? Yes. Post. Oh [ __ ] I just notified everyone about
356. 1:15:44my song. How come he gets to notify the entire community when he posts something, but we're not allowed to do
357. 1:15:50that? That was a mistake. Sorry about that. But anyway, okay. So, wait. Oh, edit displayed lyrics without verse, etc. Oh, is that does
358. 1:16:04that is that an option or should I just I should just pull them out, right? Um, [Music] can I edit these here? No. Let's see.
359. 1:16:18Edit. Uh, how do I edit this? Uh, edit. Here we go. Edit displayed lyrics. Okay,
360. 1:16:33beautiful. Thank you. Good call, Silver Fox. You know what's amazing about these lyrics is normally these lyrics will
361. 1:16:47have like some really dud kind of um like like just it'll it'll have like the better lyrics will be in the verse than
362. 1:16:59the chorus or there'll be like a a verse that's just got really shitty cliched lyrics. This doesn't really have any of those. This GPT5 it's
363. 1:17:10pretty [ __ ] good. I hate to break it to you. In case you were wanting AI to keep sucking, it's getting a little better.
364. 1:17:22Pin song to profile. Okay. And then can I How do I How do I republish? Do I republish this?
365. 1:17:37Save. It's already published. Okay. So, let's go. Oh, you're not No one's looking at this. Sorry about that. Tabs.
366. 1:17:44Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. I saw it a little too late. Okay. So, it's displaying the lyrics correctly. Great. So, share this tab.
367. 1:17:58All right. So, let's listen to our song and then we'll download the video of it and go put that we'll go download the
368. 1:18:07video and put it on X and spend the next 45 minutes trying to get a video to upload anybody of a
369. 1:18:21Okay, here we go. [Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
370. 1:18:35folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands are dreaming
371. 1:18:44of the laughter they'll be fed in your reflection in a puddles turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty.
372. 1:19:00I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know something I don't know. I've already begun.
373. 1:19:14Before the lights come on. Before the crowd arrives. Before we name what this could be. Before the day survives, we
374. 1:19:25linger in the middle where the maybe feels like song. Two hearts not yet decided before the lights come on. [Music]
375. 1:19:44A prize bear in the windows got a rip along the seam. You laugh and say he's just like me. stitched up from a dream.
376. 1:19:53The smell of rain and sawdust makes the air taste almost sweet. I count your footsteps next to mine. They nearly
377. 1:20:01match the beat. You toss a coin. It spins between the quiet and the breeze. It lands on something fragile, something trembling between.
378. 1:20:15Before the lights come on, before the noise begins, before the world demands, we choose where all this story ends.
379. 1:20:25We're written in the margin where the ink still barely strong. Two souls half in the promise before the lights come on. [Music]
380. 1:20:45Cotton candy goes the whisper of eye. The secret that your hand could hold but hasn't yet tried. If I breathe too loud,
381. 1:20:56I'll break the spell we've spun. A heartbeat before gravity decides which way we run. Before the lights come on. Before the
382. 1:21:11sky turns gold. for our voices learn the lines they're scared to have told. Let's walk this midway silence till the dawn
383. 1:21:21has found its song. And maybe we'll decide it before the lights come on. [Music]
384. 1:21:49Nice. All right. >> The queen of the woodlands wears a gold crown. [Music] She sits by a streaming
385. 1:22:06lilac. She rests on a hill. It may be her tomb.
386. 1:22:22She weaves a chain of [Music] >> um let's go back here. Let's do this. So there's Thank you for that, Corey
387. 1:22:33Sandler. That's a beautiful image. That is a good a good image than I did. I like it. So, we'll use it. Um,
388. 1:22:44look what I made. Let's just make sure. I think this is gonna have Yeah, that's bad. So, we'll get rid of that. Oh, no. We got to edit this.
389. 1:23:01Um, edit. Edit.
390. 1:23:17[Music] Come on. Oh, come on. This must be Xfinity.
391. 1:23:38Edit [Music]
392. 1:23:56can't display AVIFs. Welcome to the format nightmare. All right. Fantastic. Bob, you got it
393. 1:24:12done there. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. There's our beautiful little song. Our beautiful little thing. We click
394. 1:24:23here. It goes there. There it is. Very beautiful. We click here. Did that go to a new place? It did go to
395. 1:24:35a new place, but here's where it went. Calm down, everyone. I'll share the right tab before the lights come on. All right.
396. 1:24:52Why is it not playing? I lost connection. Screen share audio. Awesome. Yeah, my machine is hosed RAMwise.
397. 1:25:10That is what's going on with all the audio. So, anyway, all right, we got a we got a pretty thing. So, let's go grab the video
398. 1:25:21download. We're going to download the video. a video. Oh, it's got to generate it because we put a new a new picture. We put in a new
399. 1:25:32picture, people. Fantastic. What's happening? Shu. Uh, Kyle, do you have any writing advice for finding a premise?
400. 1:25:45Oh, I might do Nanorimo next month. Um,
401. 1:26:02it's so funny. my writing partner, my writing partner for Sydney. Right before I started StoryVine, I did a uh
402. 1:26:18I did a 30-day everyday update of Andrew, my writing partner, who was doing Nanorimo, and we did a we did a 30-day diary of
403. 1:26:32him doing the 30 days of Nanorimo. That that just came back to me. That's really funny. Um, yeah, there was this amazing moment
404. 1:26:41where he got sick and he didn't want to make a video and I said, "Make a video anyway." And man, he had a [ __ ] ton of people
405. 1:26:50following him by the end. It was really cool. Um, oh, but advice for for coming up with a premise. Um, if you want to see that, it's at
406. 1:26:59it's at my YouTube channel here. I'll show it to you. It's at my Kyle Shannon YouTube channel. So, let me share this tab.
407. 1:27:16Go to your channel. Yeah. And here it is. The X Days project. So, it must be in playlists. There's my kids when they were little. Here's
408. 1:27:31>> Hi there. My name is Andrew Watts and my goal is to write a complete novel in only 30 days. What the hell am I doing?
409. 1:27:48[Music] Good morning. Uh, I'm Andrew Watts and this is day one of my 30-day attempt to
410. 1:28:05>> So, anyway, that's good. The uh let's see, I'll I'll go to the funny day. Hang on. The funny day is
411. 1:28:20I think it's this one. Hi there, What the hell am I doing?
412. 1:28:37[Music]
413. 1:28:52Still not ready. Oh, was the day before this one. Yeah, hang on. >> Hi there. My name is Andrew Watts and my goal is to write a complete
414. 1:29:00>> Yeah, this is the one. This is really good. So, I'll tell you >> Hi there. My name is Andrew Watt.
415. 1:29:05>> I'll tell you the story of this video you're about to see. So, so he was deathly ill and he he was like, "Kyle,
416. 1:29:10dude, I can't make a video and I'm not writing. I don't think I'm going to finish Nanorimo." And he he was like, "I just think this
417. 1:29:17is all [ __ ] stupid." And so I told him I said I said, "Just make a video of that. Screw the format.
418. 1:29:25Just Just make a video of that. So, this is what he made. >> And my goal is to write a complete novel in only 30 days.
419. 1:29:32>> I don't think he's related to Alan. >> What the hell am I doing?
420. 1:29:47[Music] Uh hello. Welcome to day five. I'm Andrew Watts. Um I'm really sick today. I didn't write. I'm not going to read.
421. 1:30:02Uh and as far as I concerned, um Nanorimo can go suck my ass.
422. 1:30:21Um, Nanorimo. Oh, yeah. It's the National National Novel Writers Month, and the the goal is that you write I think it's
423. 1:30:30a 30,000word or 50,000word novel in 30 days. Um, and uh, yeah. So, so that that was Andrew. Okay. Um, what are we doing? I
424. 1:30:43don't know. K, it's your channel. Maybe you should figure out what we're doing here. Um download video.
425. 1:30:51All right. So let's go not share this and share full screen so you can hear it. And then I will go to here.
426. 1:31:08My eyes are drying out. Yeah, my RAM is hosed.
427. 1:31:24Hued. Hued. These sessions always make me think of Rick Rubin. That's a hu I'll take that as a huge [ __ ] compliment.
428. 1:31:39Why Why is this not launching? window before the lights come on. Uh oh.
429. 1:31:54My machine is not happy. Uh let's see. Let's see.
430. 1:32:11I don't think the lights are coming back on. Yeah, something's [ __ ] weird. All right, let's try this again.
431. 1:32:19Quick time player. There we go. Okay. All right, everybody. Everybody calm down. You're all so [ __ ] excitable.
432. 1:32:28Here's our This is our Corey Sandler artwork. Corey Sandler. A lot of music direction in this. She was She was good producer tonight.
433. 1:32:37Did you ever answer a shoe? No. a shoe. Sorry. Wait, before we play the song, um, coming up with concepts, premises for a novel
434. 1:32:52here would here would be a fun thing to do. So, one of the things that um, Chat GPT is really good at is sifting through
435. 1:33:02a bunch of sort of idea vomit. So, what I would say is um put chat GPT into conversation mode where you're talking to it and tell it
436. 1:33:15you want to come up with premises for a novel and then just literally ju and just tell it I'm going to I'm
437. 1:33:22going to just share a whole bunch of unrelated ideas and just say, you know, here's a story from when I was a kid.
438. 1:33:31Here was a dream I had once. Here's a dumb idea I had for a thing once. Here's the kinds of things I like. Here's the
439. 1:33:38kinds of things I don't like. Literally just let your brain like not not take anything seriously. Just get it as
440. 1:33:50much out of your head as you can. Your opinion, stories you've got, things like that. When you get a bunch of that stuff
441. 1:33:56out, say, "Okay, I've said enough. Now, what I want you to do first is I want you to organize my thoughts into themes
442. 1:34:04or or or a framework or something like that. Just give it some sort of direction to organize your thoughts.
443. 1:34:13And then once it's organized your thoughts, then say something like, you know, if I want to turn, you know,
444. 1:34:22something in these thoughts into a novel, what do you think are the five bit best ideas in my, you know, scattershot of
445. 1:34:32thoughts that could that could evolve into a novel concept and then let it come up with that and and look at what it comes up with. And
446. 1:34:41then if you don't like any of them, tell it why you don't like it, you know, tell it, "Nope, I don't like any of those, and here's why."
447. 1:34:50And then and then tell it to give you 10 more. And then and then you'll you'll probably within 15 minutes, you'll end
448. 1:34:59up with three or four concepts you'll be really excited about. And then I would take each one of those and and run them
449. 1:35:06down their own sort of chat GPT brainstorming session. And then, you know, one or two of them will probably hit dead ends, but
450. 1:35:15there'll be one that like as you run down the brainstorming session, it'll completely open up. So, that that would
451. 1:35:21be a fun way to do it because you don't want to just ask it to give you concepts that are not related to you, right? This
452. 1:35:27is a novel. So, if you're going to be spending 30 days writing, you know, getting the [ __ ] out of your soul,
453. 1:35:36then have it be come from your soul. So, have it be about you. So just, you know, put no judgment on any ideas and and
454. 1:35:44they don't have to be related at all. Just vomit them into the machine and then watch how it organizes them and
455. 1:35:49then just turn that into concepts. I think that'll be good. Claude Sonnet had been telling me off for procrastinating
456. 1:35:56and not writing anything. That's hilarious. Great idea. I do that with chat GPT to write poems, then combine poems in Sunno and have
457. 1:36:05them create the song. Yeah, that's great. That's awesome. All right. So, here's our video that we're going to try to upload to um uh to
458. 1:36:13to Twitter, which should be comical. [Music] The ferris wheels asleep, its arms still
459. 1:36:30folded tight. We walk between the shadows and the strings of halfway light. The popcorn stands are dreaming
460. 1:36:38of the laughter they'll be fed and your reflection in a puddle's turning pink instead of red. You say it's strange to see it empty.
461. 1:36:55I say it's strange to feel this calm. You smile like you know something I don't know. I've already begun.
462. 1:37:09Before the lights come on, before the crowd arrives, before [Music] >> Good question from El Diablo Blanco. Um,
463. 1:37:26I've seen subscription sites advertised with all different AI programs. Do you recommend any of these? Um, I I I I'm a mixed bag on them.
464. 1:37:40It is absolutely a pain in the balls to have multiple subscriptions and try to keep up with all the different models
465. 1:37:49and blah blah blah blah blah. So, there is something very seductive about having a single interface where you can have
466. 1:37:56access to all the models. Um, one of the old school ones, you know, like three years old, but but one of the ones that
467. 1:38:03people seem to like a lot is Poe Poe. Um, it's really good. There's there's a bunch of them right now that are just
468. 1:38:11kind of thrown together sites where they're they're literally just throwing APIs into a single chat interface and
469. 1:38:18then they charge 2030 bucks a month. Um, PO's been around long enough that it's pretty good. Um, it also depends like
470. 1:38:26what PO has is large language models, image models. I think it might have audio models and it's got video models,
471. 1:38:35too. Um, so there's there's things like PO that have lots of different models in them. And then there's ones that are
472. 1:38:42more creative specific like um like Leonardo's one of them, Korea is one of them that have lots of different models
473. 1:38:53you can choose from, but they're just for like video or they're just for images or images and video things like
474. 1:38:57that. Um here's the downside to them for something like chat GPT. It's not just the chat GPT5 API that you want
475. 1:39:08access to. like chat GPT itself is like 25 different tools and so if you're in someone else's environment just using
476. 1:39:19the chat GPT API you're using some small percentage of what's there so you end up not learning what the core model site actually is
477. 1:39:29like like what I would say is if you want to play with lots of different models what might make sense is do a subscription to
478. 1:39:38something like PO where you can POE where you can do lots of different models but then I would also do a subscription to chat GPT
479. 1:39:47just so you can experience all the stuff it offers and like really dig deep on a single model because it's just a different
480. 1:39:55experience. So that that's that's my two cents on that. Um I find those things distracting and confusing and often not
481. 1:40:04really adding value. Um, you know, there's lots of open- source ones, too. I don't know. I don't know. I I could
482. 1:40:13spend if chat GPT stopped right now, I could spend the next three to five years not even scratching the surface of it.
483. 1:40:19It's It's that deep. There's so much going on there. Um, imagine.art. I just found that because but so expensive. I'm still
484. 1:40:29wavering on spending on a video model. I listen, Corey. I'm I'm right there with the the video models right now are all
485. 1:40:37so expensive. They really are. They're like like like uh the new Sunno in the API is is 10 cents a second, which means
486. 1:40:47a 10-second video is a dollar. Do you know how many [ __ ] videos you have to make to get the videos to not suck, to
487. 1:40:54be usable in some form? Like if you wanted to do a video of this music video, it's three minutes and 28 seconds long and it's, you know, th
488. 1:41:06those things are generating 5-second clips. So So you're going to probably have to do a hundred different clips to
489. 1:41:14get enough video to do this. Well, if you're doing that in Sunno, that's a $100. Now, if you compare that to what
490. 1:41:22it would take to go out and film on set, it's really cheap. But if you're just [ __ ] around with AI, a hundred bucks
491. 1:41:29is ridiculous. Not wait, Sora. Yes, sorry. Sorao is the song maker. Sora is the one I was talking about. It's 10 10
492. 1:41:39cents a second for Sora, too. Um, that's just expensive. There's there's other ones that are cheaper, but good lord. So
493. 1:41:47if you really want to experiment with video, what might actually make sense is spin up an instance of like Google Collab
494. 1:41:56where you have a a virtual machine in the cloud and run some open- source models like set up some GPUs in the cloud. I assume that would be
495. 1:42:04significantly cheaper, but I don't know. But then you got to then you got to [ __ ] set up a you know a virtual
496. 1:42:10machine and go research all the open source video models. So, just the the other here's the other thing I would
497. 1:42:16say. If you're just exhausted by not knowing what the [ __ ] to do with video, give it a year, right? Because we're just now we're just
498. 1:42:27now getting to the point where the physics in these models are good enough that you you can get mostly usable
499. 1:42:36videos most of the time. A year from now, they're going to be rock solid and there's going to be a bunch of really
500. 1:42:42cheap ones that are just fine. Tik Tok voc users salon. Okay. Um, videos frustrate me. They frustrate me
501. 1:42:54too, Silver Fox because I'll tell you when when videos don't um frustrate me like the song that I did um
502. 1:43:06to Kill You for a Dollar. Let me show you this video and then I'll I'll tell you why it didn't drive me as crazy. Um, where am I going?
503. 1:43:21Am I sharing? I'm not sharing right. Hang on.
504. 1:43:35Here we go.
505. 1:43:54Am I sharing? Oh, no. Not okay.
506. 1:44:18[Music]
507. 1:44:35to kill you for a dollar. Desperate for an end to this monotony monotony. [Applause]
508. 1:44:52You look like a warm one. Your future all set. Let me lick your pockets. I'll take what I can get. I don't need your
509. 1:45:02kindness, your contact, your jokes, or your pitiful love. Do you have any smokes? Can't go back to Kansas or three channel
510. 1:45:13TV. You know what's coming in. Your future is me. The rats control the sewer pipe. And in this waste they multiply
511. 1:45:24and feed upon their young. And here they flock. They strain. They push to be
512. 1:45:38much more than they can be. [Music] Eyes like sharks. They lack the light
513. 1:45:55to look upon their destiny. [Music] to kill you for a dollar.
514. 1:46:10[Music] Flicker and static feel chill to the bone. This is the channel that leads you back home. A dollar buys you power. A
515. 1:46:24dollar buys regret. A dollar buys a silence your conscience won't forget to kill you for a dollar. [Music]
516. 1:46:40To kill you for a dollar for a dollar for a dollar. So, the reason that wouldn't didn't drive me that crazy is because
517. 1:46:52I basically just found a style in midjourney that I liked and I just wanted like video snippets and sort of images
518. 1:47:03as if they were filmed in the late 80s in New York City in Spanish Harlem, which is where that song what that what
519. 1:47:10that song's about, being an artist in New York City during the crack epidemic And so it just had to be like a wash of
520. 1:47:20reality and a wash of emotion and it was kind of like I I tried to to semi, you know, include images that went with the
521. 1:47:30lyrics, but I didn't really think about it that much. So if you're doing something like that, the video stuff's
522. 1:47:36brilliant. Like that like emotionally that captures what it felt like back then to me, right? It's like that's what it felt like. Um,
523. 1:47:48but the minute you start to get into, you know, I want to have someone sitting here and at this line I want to have
524. 1:47:54them look over here and then I want a ball to come into the scene. The minute you try to do any kind of actual
525. 1:48:01storyboarding, holy [ __ ] [ __ ] it's a disaster. Um, the sound comes in better here, but the picture comes in better on X. That's
526. 1:48:12hilarious. Okay, so the the video clips are midjourney video. Yes. What what plan includes? So So Corey, um the
527. 1:48:28$60 plan? You can get videos in the $30 plan, but there's so few of them that it's just not worth it. So, if you want
528. 1:48:38to actually do videos in midjourney, it's the $60 plan. Um, and it gives you a fair amount. Like, I don't I don't
529. 1:48:46think I have any fast hours left. You need the pro plan. Yeah, you do. But it's it's really good. Like, so so
530. 1:48:55there's there's two things. If you want if you want audio generated for your clips, then you need to use something like V3 or Sora 2.
531. 1:49:08But if you just want So Corey Sandler, I feel like for you, how does it compare to say cling? I think that the
532. 1:49:21similar to the the image fidelity in midjourney where the the images are just on a different plane artistically.
533. 1:49:30I feel like the video is similarly on a different plane artistically like midjourney just look I it's hard to
534. 1:49:38describe what midjourney seems to do is actually understand the artistic intent of the image if that makes any sense.
535. 1:49:45So, if you've got a really flat image that's like, you know, sketched shapes and sketched drawings, it'll kind of
536. 1:49:52recognize it as a 2D plane and then any animation it does stays in this 2D plane. But if you've got something if
537. 1:50:00you've got an image that has kind of depth to it or like sometimes an image will feel kind of 3D, Midjourney seems
538. 1:50:07to catch that really good and turn things appropriately 3D and like it's just I don't know, it's just a really
539. 1:50:14smart model visually. Um, but it doesn't generate sound. So, if you want to do dialogue and all that sort of stuff, you
540. 1:50:20have to throw that into like Hedra or or Runway, uh, whatever the [ __ ] their their, you know, voiceover thing is. Um,
541. 1:50:30anyway, um, I think it's quite beautiful. You've never used it. Let me go, let me pop over to MidJourney. I'll
542. 1:50:35show it to you, but I don't think I have enough I don't think I have any fast credit, so I don't think I can make a video right now. Um,
543. 1:50:44mid journey mid journey. Mid joiny mid johny mid johny. All right. So here I am in a mid joiny and the way
544. 1:51:00it works is you can basically take any image like here's a cool image and then down here in the lower right
545. 1:51:10it's just animate image low motion high motion. Um, you can you can do it as a loop so so that it ends where it began or you
546. 1:51:20can do it as a regular um thing. If I hit low motion, it's probably going to error me out. Submitting. Oh, no, it didn't.
547. 1:51:34I'm in I'm in relaxed mode. Well, it'll it'll take a while, but that's it. Like it is. And it you get
548. 1:51:41four videos for every every time you hit the button. It's really really good. You've never even used it for images,
549. 1:51:49Corey. Oh my god. You're You will love MidJourney. It's insane. It's so good. Um here, let me show you, Corey. Let me
550. 1:51:58show you a couple of things. Um I don't even know where to begin. So there's a thing called mood boards. So,
551. 1:52:08if you've got existing images or photographs, Corey, or even like your your pottery, just shapes that you use
552. 1:52:14to inspire your pottery, you can create mood boards. Like this is a mood board that I made of, um, photography that I
553. 1:52:22did, uh, sky photographs that I made over the years. Um, and so I can choose this mood board and then I'll get images
554. 1:52:30that have skies in them that look like stuff that I that I shot. It's it's it's insane. And then you can mix mood
555. 1:52:37boards. Um, so let me see. Let me go back here. So I can go let me let me do I'll put in one of those sky ones.
556. 1:52:46Let's see. Yeah. So, so it popped it popped the uh the code right there. And then let me do I'll do this sign
557. 1:52:56one. This is this is another set of photographs I did of like these street signs on Kfax Avenue here in Denver. And so
558. 1:53:07I'll add that one in there. So now I've got two different mood boards sitting up in the prompt. And so I'll just type in a prompt. I'll
559. 1:53:18say like um cowboy walking down the street as cars pass
560. 1:53:32him by. at golden hour and then we'll see how it does. That video is going to take forever.
561. 1:53:50But these these images may show up at some point. We'll come back to them. Um let me let me show you some other
562. 1:54:02like here. These are a bunch of the videos I did for To Kill You for a Dollar.
563. 1:54:19[Music] I And that video I I did so many videos it blew out my subscription. I blew up my subscription like three
564. 1:54:29days into the month this month and I just I'm I'm like I'm like [ __ ] it if if you know if they're not going to do it.
565. 1:54:37Like look at the the quality of the images in Mid Journey is just insane. Oh Corey, let me show you another thing.
566. 1:54:43So, so just like you have mood boards, if you go to the explore tab, so in the upper leftand corner here, um
567. 1:54:54over here to the right, there's three different things. There's images, videos, and styles. So, if you go to
568. 1:55:00images, these are just images that people have made. But if you go to styles, these are all now um style references that you can create
569. 1:55:11images in those styles. So let me see what my last prompt was. My last prompt was cowboy walking down the street. Okay, so
570. 1:55:24there's there's my cowboys. We'll look at that in a second. But if I go back here and you say try this style, it
571. 1:55:32takes whatever your last prompt was and it does it in this new style. So let me try that one. And then you can also search
572. 1:55:44for these. You can search for like um drama and then now here's a bunch of dramat dramatic styles. So, let me find
573. 1:55:55something here that looks cool and dramatic and would look cool with a cowboy. Uh, this one. So, I'll try that
574. 1:56:01style. And so, now if I come back here, now it's creating four new images of each of those styles. It's really slick. But here's,
575. 1:56:14you know, here's the thing based on like this is absolutely kind of those are absolutely my skies, you know, similar
576. 1:56:21to my skies and has the sort of color grading of of the images I make. You know, they're kind of weird and overly processed,
577. 1:56:33which I just kind of dig. So, it's it's just it's just really good at understanding images. Really good.
578. 1:56:45All right, I got to get out of here, people. I hope that was helpful for everybody. There's Ann Murphy in the house. Ann Murphy,
579. 1:56:54good luck. Saturday, the She Leads AI create conference starts. If you are near Salt Lake City or want to be, you
580. 1:57:04should be going to the uh to the Sheile Leads AI create conference. A little last minute, but I'm sure if you're nice
581. 1:57:12to an she'll hook you up. Um Corey Sandler, thanks so much for everything you do. You're welcome. Of course. Um
582. 1:57:23Oh, Pro Professor Crystal, you're Boulder, Denver. Cool. Awesome. Yeah, I'm in Denver. Terrific. Um, oh, these are cool. Here, wait, show
583. 1:57:33my screen again. There, Brandon. Here was this. This was that one dramatic style that um that the images just came in from.
584. 1:57:46Like, look at these things. These are crazy. And this is this these are not my mood boards. This was like one of those
585. 1:57:52ones we picked that was dramatic. They're just like you can just so quickly iterate different styles.
586. 1:58:05Oh yeah, these are these are from one of those mood boards that I picked or one of the styles I picked on the outside.
587. 1:58:12Look at that one. It's got this banded sky thing going on. Killer. I know, Champy. You need cheese. I know,
588. 1:58:22buddy. Okay. All right. Good. So, today is Thursday. That means tomorrow's Friday. What does that mean? That means
589. 1:58:30we got a bunch of stuff going on. 11:00 a.m. Mountain time is AI Salon office hours and meetup. All right. So, that's
590. 1:58:39if you go to my LinkedIn, it's available there. And I think if you go to the new the brand spanking new
591. 1:58:48AI salon website, if you go to thus the salon.ai, let me make sure that the the event is actually there. Yeah, it is.
592. 1:59:03Tomorrow's October 10th. Yeah. So, if you go to the salon.ai AI and just scroll down a little bit. It says upcoming events
593. 1:59:12and the AI salon office hours and meet and greet is there. Okay. Tab. Am I on the wrong tab? Yes, I am. There you go.
594. 1:59:22All right. So, upcoming events and here it is right here. So, just go RSVP. Beautiful. That'll give you the the
595. 1:59:28information. And by the way, this is our brand spanking new lovely website. Um, okay. So, that's that. Um,
596. 1:59:40right after that meeting is a meeting for the AI Salon Mastermind, a founder hangout where if you're part of the AI
597. 1:59:48salon mastermind, it's a smaller meeting where we talk about what everyone's up to in business and and just business and
598. 1:59:55life and talk about, you know, solving problems for them. It's a it's a really it's a really nice group. Um, so that
599. 2:00:02that happens at noon Mountain time and then tomorrow night is Friday night date night. Friday night date night. So back
600. 2:00:09here at uh at 8:00 p.m. Mountain time. Uh, and what that looks like is you bring a date or not. I'll be your date.
601. 2:00:19Doesn't matter. Bring nachos. Bring hot pockets. Get yourself some booze. Get drunk on a Friday night and and and
602. 2:00:28lament the fact that you could be doing something else, but you're actually doing the right thing. Being in the
603. 2:00:33conversation about AI. I thought I was your date. You're always my date, Brandon. Yeah. Yeah. And if you don't come
604. 2:00:40tomorrow night, you have FOMO. You're gonna you're just gonna you're just not going to be happy with your life. Okay.
605. 2:00:48Um that's it. I'm getting out of here. My voice is shot. That was That was a lot tonight, but it was good. I was glad
606. 2:00:54to do it. All right. Peace out. Hope you have a good night. Bye.