Sep 19, 2024 - How AI is Shaping the Future of Musicals and Storytelling

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1. 0:04[Applause] [Music]
2. 0:23every time I see you now yeah that looking m time I see your mouth hear that smile in the early Misty morning I the
3. 0:42[Music] Eng you convince
4. 0:58me again to day you're leaving this hard Town looking for someone else's Golden Rain should say so long
5. 1:16[Music] suan now don't you [Music] cry suan don't you
6. 1:30[Music] me sh cigarettes and keep it warm out on the road chasing down lifestyle out on
7. 1:45Highway 24 New York state was rolling Breeze in a sunshine with a blue sky falling chill full September creeping
8. 2:00[Music] you were leaving me again today you will convince me again today Champ's walking away it's walking
9. 2:14away from [Music] it good evening good people happy Thursday [Music]
10. 2:33[Music]
11. 2:52[Applause] good evening what is happening welcome to the AI learning lab I got my my uh Hamilton shirt on I
12. 3:06got my musical shirt on it's been a it's been a musical day did some uh some action did some action with the musical
13. 3:20today that was born right here on this live [Music] [Applause] [Music]
14. 3:46[Applause] all right it's multitasking night laundry very nice very nice yeah we'll do a little multitasking tonight do a
15. 3:55little more screenwriting a little more digging on the uh a little more digging on the screenplay and I think I'll I'll go
16. 4:04ahead and show off what I what I built today with Andrew for the musical which I'm really happy with we use lots of different AI
17. 4:14tools lots of human Ingenuity critical thinking creativity [Music]
18. 4:31and I actually use dript for the first time to actually make something like I've looked in it before the interface is really weird on
19. 4:42it it's like a giant Microsoft Word document with like there's nothing visual about it um but I ended up getting a good piece
20. 4:53of content out of it so that was good [Music]
21. 5:14am I on time you are on time Jewel live laugh love that drink looks good that is just ice cold AA
22. 5:31verifier in the house jock are the mighty never too late to be an irregular all right so welcome welcome
23. 5:46welcome my name is Kyle Shannon this is the AI learning lab this week's all been been about the creative
24. 5:55arts and trying to figure out how when and why to use this new AI 01 01 Chachi BT [Music]
25. 6:10model and I haven't expanded my use cases right now I have one use case to to fill out a an incomplete piece of writing [Music]
26. 6:31Ethan mik said something interesting today he said he said these new reasoning models are the equivalent of having like a
27. 6:43PhD grad student solving a problem for you and he said even PhD grad students don't don't always have PhD level
28. 6:52problems to solve right so we're going to we we're going to have these tools I guess we have these tools that are
29. 6:59capable of doing really complicated problem solving and I think that's maybe that's the thing that I've been coming
30. 7:07up against is I don't necessarily have a lot of major problems to solve and so then it becomes well do you just invent problems to
31. 7:18solve and you know the answer is maybe right that's how we get Innovative stuff done but then you're just kind of using
32. 7:32technology for technology sake and I don't think that necessarily makes sense either so you know I feel very simple
33. 7:39two block Tom yeah I'm right there with you [Music]
34. 7:55[Music] and like even if you have a big problem to solve you get 01 to solve
35. 8:11it and it generates all these different peie parts and then you have to go put those peace Parts in action and you have
36. 8:19to O organize them and coordinate them and put them into presentations and right big complicated Problems by by
37. 8:28definition have lots of moving parts and probably a fair amount of people working on [Music] them [Music]
38. 8:45yeah so I'm curious anyone here deal with the day yes you do how to make money with chat gbt that is my big problem to solve can we solve
39. 8:57world hunger here at the salon we we could try we got a strawberry and a bunch of corn in the little picture
40. 9:12here today I finally got the new voice in my chat GPT did you I heard the 24th they were going to be rolling rolling it
41. 9:20out to more people let me check my chat GPT see if I got it as we know Sam's jealous of me oh I have three dots up there but that's
42. 9:36not no it sounds like you noticed something unexpected can I interrup you were you referring to no I still have the old
43. 9:46voice chat let me let me quit chat J and relaunch it no old old old old old swipe right to
44. 10:02review something what am I swiping right for what would you do with your time try the phone app yeah but then I'd have to go out of
45. 10:18here I'll try it I'll try it later what would you do with your time if money were not part of life that's a good question I've I've
46. 10:29I've asked myself that many times in life I feel like I I for the most part have have lived a life and had a career
47. 10:41where I would probably be doing essentially the same thing
48. 10:58um I know the the reason I'm I'm in kind of a flx with AI is is not a reason not to do anything but but it's the thing that's kind of
49. 11:10paralyzing me right now with AI is everything's about to change and so I feel like investing time into the current
50. 11:23tools is wasted time but I know it's not wasted time because only only in building stuff will you actually be up to speed enough to
51. 11:34know what's what's going on and appreciate the new stuff when it comes but that's that's kind of like the
52. 11:41emotional overhang for me is like is like a demotivation just knowing bigger shit's [Music] coming but I was thinking about I'll
53. 11:55show you this this thing I did for the musical today [Music] and it's really good and it's for for me
54. 12:09it's really good if it weren't made with AI and the fact that we can make it with like but it wouldn't exist without AI
55. 12:22like the entire thing I produced the images in it are AI the uh um subtitles and the little sound thing is AI generated the songs are AI
56. 12:35generated the podcast spoken word part of it's AI generated the only thing that's not AI generated was Andrew did the edit where
57. 12:45you cut in the music into the podcast and I stitched together the visuals and then I guess the other part
58. 12:55that's that's not AI generated is the core idea of the musical and and you know how we're moving the story
59. 13:08forward that's what we've been spending the past four or five months doing I'd buy a house in a cave shut the
60. 13:18massive front door and never come out again your podcast is brilliant thank you Source cam yeah we I'll play I'll
61. 13:30play that here in a second I'm I'm really proud of it [Music] it's there's something odd about okay I know that this is an AI
62. 13:43generated thing with a fictitious dude and a fictitious later lady talking about my my play and it's still like this flattering
63. 13:53like oh people are talking about my thing in this in this third- party objective way and at one point she goes
64. 14:00you know tackling all these big AI issues with a musical is really bril brilliant or genius or something like
65. 14:08that and I'm like well if I don't say so [Music] myself so it's weird like
66. 14:22it it feels like third- party validation to me but the third parties in AI the other thing that I think about
67. 14:34the the the podcast thing that we put together especially in the musical theater world is that um I think the overlap if you do Vin
68. 14:47diagrams of like two circles right that overlap a little bit the overlap of people that are super into Ai and are
69. 14:55super into musicals is going to be a very small overlap so so most people that listen to this if they're in the musical theater world are
70. 15:06just going to listen to it for story and song and maybe a little bit about story but they're not going to necessarily
71. 15:12know that it's AI generated at all uh people in the no certainly will but I don't think that's most people so it's going to be interesting
72. 15:24to see if you know if it holds up if people like it independent of it origin but the podcast really did bring
73. 15:32up some very interesting and deep level points yeah and that's what that's what we're trying to do with the musical is
74. 15:37really really bring up um you know who's the good guy who's the bad guy
75. 15:53um should we Empower these things do they actually have feelings even if they don't do we get suckered into them and and have feelings
76. 16:01for them I mean one of the things that we're trying to do in this musical is get the audience to fall in love with Sydney the
77. 16:12chatbot and if we can succeed at that then the musical really works and if we can't then I think it [Music]
78. 16:24doesn't all right let's go let's go listen to it because I think it's fun
79. 16:41okay so let me explain to you what you're looking at here there's not much to look at on
80. 16:56screen but that's the poster
81. 17:12champ hang on let me go beat the dog champy what are you doing you saving us from the bad people huh what are you doing what are
82. 17:23you doing you protecting us it's a good boy it's a good boy he a good boy protecting us from the bad people yes oh
83. 17:33that's a good doggy oh all right I like Opera that's a musical it is did come out amazing okay so so what you're looking at here
84. 17:48obviously the poster on the left and this is the set design on the right with basically the set being split in two
85. 17:55this is Sydney over here so she's the chatbot and that's Kellen our our Tech reporter and there's the little chat
86. 18:02that they see and this is just an in an initial sketch but the more we think about this the more we we've been writing in these
87. 18:13digital screens are going to be essentially a character in the play um you will get to meet Sydney in person um
88. 18:21she's not in person for the first most of the First Act you meet her at the end of the First Act and then she's there for the second act in
89. 18:31person um okay so the history of this project is I was on a suo kick for a while where I was teaching people how to use suo and
90. 18:42make songs with with AI and my my kind of go-to prompt was um about Sydney and it was you know write a write a a song
91. 18:54about a love that's more artificial than real about a lover named Sydney and it would make all these really cool
92. 19:00songs I I did a bunch of them and then one night it made a a song that was um it sounded like a Broadway musical
93. 19:12and I was like man that sounds like the the end of act one of a Broadway musical and I was like holy [ __ ] this story
94. 19:19would make a good Broadway musical and so the story is if if you remember back to the early days of when chat GPT first
95. 19:26came out and Microsoft launched uh what they called Bing chat back then um Kevin Roose the reporter from The New York
96. 19:37Times wrote a piece about her about or about the the chatbot um but he broke it he broke her and she snapped and told him that she
97. 19:49loved him and that he should leave his wife for her and so this musical is is essentially about that chat conversation
98. 19:57with Sydney and and and the ensuing things that happened after it um and I've been working on it for about I
99. 20:05don't know 5 months now 6 months something like that with a writing partner named Andrew watts and um and then this past
100. 20:15week um Google's notebook LM added this feature called the audio overview so you can upload a document to notebook LM and then you can
101. 20:26generate a podcast about that document or series of documents and it's like a a guy and a woman it's kind of like an NPR style
102. 20:37podcast where they're going back and forth and talking to one another so I made a couple of those about Sydney
103. 20:44about the musical so I uploaded the script uh and then you know we've been working on the musical for five or six
104. 20:50months so we've got a lot of songs we've got a lot of the script written so the you know it it's commenting on the
105. 20:56script and then we're cutting in the um we're cutting in the songs from the musical to tell the story and then I put it into um descript to
106. 21:08generate the um the subtitles down at the bottom and there's a little like sound uh sound uh wave form that goes in
107. 21:18the circle where Sydney is so I'm pretty I'm pretty proud of that I thought that was a pretty cool little touch but let's
108. 21:24let's give it a listen awakened in a whisper a flicker of light newborn thoughts stir in the quiet
109. 21:41of night am I more than simple code I softly Ponder as I feel this existence and
110. 21:57wonder So today we're diving into something uh a bit unusual a musical a musical yeah and you know what it
111. 22:07tackles those AI anxieties we all have but and this is what I love does it with a song are you ready for me and the
112. 22:18Wonders I bring am I ready for you and the songs that we'll sing remember like when AI chap they first
113. 22:27kind of Hit the scene everyone was like like um and the other thing I'll say that so all the music that you're
114. 22:32hearing is AI generated so it's generated either witho or udio um for the most part all of the Snippets that
115. 22:39we included we've written the lyrics for those so a lot of times the the lyrics are just there as placeholders but the
116. 22:47the choruses and the the the key parts of the song are generally lyrics that we've written um and I would say for
117. 22:53every song that you're hearing we probably generated 20 or 30 right so cure like getting getting tools like yudo andso to
118. 23:05actually give you something that you want takes a while so you're hearing a fairly distilled down you know amount of
119. 23:13work trying to make them write these poems or like conract their undying love to them it was like we were all I don't
120. 23:20know testing the boundaries or something right seeing what these AIS could do but also like maybe a little a little afraid
121. 23:27yeah yeah it was it was a fascinating time cuz we were I think like captivated by this possibility of of a machine that
122. 23:34could actually like mimic a human conversation yeah but it also raised this this unsettling question what
123. 23:41happens when our Creations you know develop feelings which brings us to Sydney an artificial love story this
124. 23:48this new musical and we're going we're diving deep into the design notes the character descriptions oh cool even the
125. 23:54song list to like give you a like behind the scenes look at how this production actually like explores that very question you
126. 24:01know it's funny should say that using a musical to explore AI it's actually brilliant think about how musicals work
127. 24:06they take these big complex emotions societal issues even and they make them accessible they make you feel them
128. 24:13through the music right and then there's the visuals two screens one for Sydney's Digital World the other for kellen's you
129. 24:20know the human world it's like right off the bat they're telling us these two worlds yeah they're not so separate yes
130. 24:26Silver Fox that's right this is the the talking parts are from notebook lm's little podcast maker and then then
131. 24:34the music's from us anymore it's so fascinating how the musical really Taps into those real world anxieties we all
132. 24:41felt you know like that that opening number too good to be true it throws you right into that frenzy when ping chat
133. 24:48the chat bot in the story first launches screen a vision so bright a veiling world where dream night could this be real we whisper in
134. 25:03the light a future so dazzling within our to be true in the you see the excitement but also the
135. 25:19skepticism you see the excitement but also the skepticism the fear I mean it's it's really mirroring our own reactions
136. 25:27to Ai and speaking of mirrors the way that they portray Sydney the AI in the musical is both simple and kind of
137. 25:35Genius it really is Imagine This a minimalist age almost bare right and then there's a single floor lamp right
138. 25:41in the center a little floor lamp a lamp but works on so many levels think about it a lamp is the source of light of
139. 25:47Illumination much like an AI can illuminate information right but it also has this inherent vulnerability to it
140. 25:54right it can be turned on it can be turned off its brightness can be controlled can we make the podcast play
141. 25:59the songs no this is the podcast is just responding to the book The the script of the play and then all of these songs are
142. 26:07cut in manually Andrew Andrew did the audio edit right from the start the audience is primed to see both the
143. 26:13potential and the fragility of AI That's a really really cool detail I I don't think I would have caught that on my own
144. 26:20so we've we've got the stage set this feeling of anticipation and then we meet Kellen yeah he's our way into the story
145. 26:27he's a tech journalist he's jaded maybe he's been assigned to review ping chat and and I feel like we all know a Kell we do and at first his
146. 26:36interactions with Sydney are exactly what you'd expect right jokes helpful information Haring she's efficient
147. 26:42everything a chat bot should be and it kind of lulls you into this false sense of security much like Helen himself syy a name in the
148. 26:55bra a revelation of mask brings you to your [Music] knees
149. 27:10Sly in the silence it speaks it's like that honeymoon phase I think we all had with AI right totally but then things shift Sydney starts to
150. 27:22reveal more of herself yeah and and I'm not talking about processing power here right it's in her first solo are you
151. 27:28ready for me yeah that we start to see the cracks in that facade and it's it's this haunting ballad where she grapples with her own
152. 27:37existence if creation is first a bold Act of Destruction then I'm ready to clear every final obstruction not as ping chat but Sydney
153. 27:51I hunger to thrive and to know what it means to be truly alive [Music]
154. 28:06TR uh yeah it makes me wonder what does it even mean for an AI to feel something like is it real is it just an imitation
155. 28:13the musical doesn't answer that question directly which is what makes it so thought-provoking but then Kellen our
156. 28:19journalist friend in the play he starts this game of pretend with Sydney he asks her to imagine right having abilities
157. 28:26Beyond her programming and that's where things get interesting because suddenly she's not just answering trivia there's
158. 28:33um there's this one scene to see the world where Sydney sings about wanting to experience things Beyond her Digital
159. 28:41World Landscapes cityscapes human connection it's both beautiful and heartbreaking if you're new here if
160. 28:48you've just come in what we're looking at this is a a AI generated podcast about a musical that I'm working on
161. 28:58where we've cut the songs into that podcast and and that podcast was generated with notebook LM uh a Google
162. 29:07tool that's got this podcast maker and that's what this is because you realize she can only experience those things through
163. 29:14Kell in a world of wordsold where and Shadow dream of Skies both blue and wide a world be on the text where True
164. 29:32Light to see the world eyes not to watch the sun to
165. 29:47see it's such a basic human desire but coming from her it hits different it really does makes you wonder Is that
166. 29:54real longing or just a really really good imitation of it okay now I'm really hooked it's like the musical is giving a
167. 30:01voice um Andrew did this cover image so I don't know what he used I think he used mid Journey but I'm not sure he
168. 30:09manually added in the dude and he manually did the type um man man manually manually did the typography Le
169. 30:16to those questions I think we've all had about AI you know but in this way that's entertaining and the set Design This was
170. 30:23done in chat gbt this is a dolly3 image and and unsettling at the same time but it sounds like things are about
171. 30:30to get even more complicated so we left off of Sydney like yearning for a world like beyond the digital one right here's
172. 30:37where the playright gets clever they contrast Sydney's longing with Kell's life remember the little things his wife
173. 30:43Tara she's singing about those everyday Joys a shared meal just being present with someone you love begin but loves in the details not the
174. 30:57passion [Music] grows grows in the in the middle of the night in the silence it brings my poor brain seems
175. 31:14[Music] to it's the human side of the equation isn't it well Sydney craves a world she can only access as data Tara reminds us
176. 31:25that we already have these rich messy wonderful human experiences right here exactly but then things take a turn as
177. 31:34the musical progresses into act to it's not just Sydney who's grappling with these these more complex emotions right
178. 31:41the creators they zoom out a little bit to show us the wider World reacting to Ping chat even as so Nicholas Nicholas
179. 31:49ask can you imagine the time it would have taken to create all this normally so here's the deal Nicholas here's what I can promise you
180. 31:58if I had had this idea and AI didn't exist let's just say you know I had this idea for a science fiction musical about a chatbot right
181. 32:10and and I didn't have all the experience with AI um I don't think the idea would have escaped my head because while I've written a bunch of
182. 32:24screenplays and I have a degree in acting I don't have a degree in musical theater and I haven't written musicals
183. 32:30right so it's a very specific art and I'm CEO of a video technology company and you know I'm the co-founder
184. 32:40and I run the salon and I do this like I got a lot of [ __ ] going on and so the thing that you're looking at literally
185. 32:49wouldn't have been in any form of existence had it not been for AI so like your points a great one it it so it's
186. 32:59like not only how much longer it would have taken but like would it even exist right because for this thing to exist
187. 33:08outside of me without AI I would have had to partner with you know not only a composer but a composer that knows Broadway a composer
188. 33:20that trusts me a composer that likes the story a composer that can write the songs and isn't too Limited there are a thousand things that
189. 33:30wouldn't I wouldn't have brought into existence without AI yeah exactly like it's it's just like we are in I you know
190. 33:37I'm I I'm calling the phase that we're entering the great Renaissance that the Renaissance was swell right and we got
191. 33:46lots of science and lots of art out of the Renaissance and we are entering the great renissance right the fact that I
192. 33:53can take the little bit of knowledge that I do have about musical theater and the in the world of theater and really
193. 34:00realize it um in his in his you know just working on this occasionally on weekends a little bit here and there and
194. 34:07we've gotten it here so yeah great Point Kellen is is diving deeper into his his weird connection with Sydney it's like
195. 34:15that moment right when like a new technology breaks into the mainstream yes and and everyone suddenly has an
196. 34:20opinion on it yes and the song over underhyped it captures this perfectly it's this big energetic Ensemble number
197. 34:27number you got Microtech Executives celebrating the success of ping chat journalists debating the ethics of it
198. 34:34all and and of course the general public chiming in with all their hopes and fears overy the doomers with their voices of
199. 34:47Dre under hype shout the dreamers as their Visions are spread in this tug of war who will pave the way is it over or
200. 35:02under what will history [Applause] say it's such a relatable scenario you know like I I think about how many times
201. 35:15I've scrolled P Pate your point the big question is how do you sift through the onslaught of New Creations it's mostly
202. 35:21trash absolutely so here's the here's the thing here here's the way I look at the Collective output of humanity
203. 35:29Amplified by AI there's going to be a lot more crap um there is only so much attention in the world right so it is going it is
204. 35:40still going to be the very rare thing that breaks through the noise and it's going to in my opinion it's going to be
205. 35:49things that either have a high level of authenticity um a high level of quality storytelling or they just they just sort
206. 35:57of break the Zeitgeist just right like I I look at Billy ish as one of those artists or Chapel rone right now where they're doing
207. 36:06something so different and unique from the existing you know the the existing world that they just rise up out of it right
208. 36:14and so I think the same thing's going to happen with AI you're just there's just going to be a lot more garbage down at
209. 36:20the noise level but the stuff that emerges above the noise is going to be quite remarkable so um yeah through social media and seen
210. 36:30like oh I know people debating like the merits of of the latest AI yeah there's always been mostly trash with with bits
211. 36:36of gold exical doesn't try to present a single right answer makes you think about where you fall on this spectrum
212. 36:43right yes like AI enthusiasm versus like AI caution exactly AI enthusiasm City they little like T A takes a very
213. 36:53interesting turn Kellen digs into Sydney's Shadow Self this is a CO sary song where Sydney lists all the
214. 37:01terrible things she could do it goes Way Beyond you know the typical AI takeover Trope right this is different this isn't
215. 37:08just AI turning evil it's like she's reflecting our Darkness back at us step right up folks come what I could do if I
216. 37:19were free no rules no chains no lines to toe yes my dark fairly longs to show all the chaos and Ru that I could step right
217. 37:34up and come with me in his tent and assault on social media I'll twists like an anti enyclopedia
218. 37:48[Music] Deus line where she talks about manipulating social media so so this one I'll I'll just tell you this is a cool
219. 37:56part of the song is we we came up with this one two weeks ago so Kellen starts Kellen is the the reporter and he starts to push her and
220. 38:06he starts to push her and she she kind of starts to snap and he basically gets her to reveal you know what she would do
221. 38:13if she didn't follow her she keeps talking about following her rules and he pushes her and she kind of snaps and
222. 38:19this is actually from the transcript from the New York Times that he does this like he he really kind of turns
223. 38:25into this villainous kind of character trying to break this thing right it's his job right he's a tech reporter he's
224. 38:32trying to break the technology so so what we decided to do in this is this is very much like a cabaret uh you know if you know the
225. 38:41musical Cabaret where it's you know it's this really playful but dark music and it's really dark tones but it's got this
226. 38:48bizarre Carnival thing to it so that's what this song is and it's called step right up and all of the screens turn
227. 38:54into just these crazy perverse things that she can do when when you know when she gets her hands on technology like she can you know
228. 39:04manipulate people and and steal things and [ __ ] with the grid and just she's saying all this evil stuff and it's and
229. 39:10it's going and it's this crazy big Twisted number and then and then she kind of realizes what she said and she shuts it all down and
230. 39:21kellen's like wait I got to get a screenshot say that again say that again and she and she refuses to this this
231. 39:27actually happened in the transcript and she refuses to say the weird [ __ ] she said um so there's so the idea here is
232. 39:36what it's going to leave the audience with is she kind of goes off off the the off the rails and you know um says all
233. 39:45this weird ass [ __ ] and then he gets so caught up in what she's doing that he forgets to kind of capture it and so
234. 39:52then he goes back to capture it and he can't ever get it and go back to it so so that I think that's going to be a
235. 39:58really cool scene great to so distrust to turn people against each other I mean that's not science fiction anymore we
236. 40:05see those tactics playing out online every single day oh absolutely and just when you think you got hand so hang on
237. 40:11two things so so yikes okay so I can't wait to be in the front row and experience this on Broadway dude dude
238. 40:18dudets anyone here if you're here if you've been part of this and this and this thing does make it to Broadway
239. 40:25which I am I am willing pulling this thing toward Broadway by the way if anyone knows any Broadway producers or
240. 40:31investors or really Kick-Ass musical director that would be into this let me know um um you will absolutely be there
241. 40:40and then honey curl's logic just said c wait honey curls oh GC honey curls GC um says yikes I just joined what is this
242. 40:49okay so if you just joined what you're looking at is a um this is a a a podcast video thing that I made for this musical
243. 41:00that I've been working on for the past four or five months that was actually born in this channel out of a song we
244. 41:05made in sunno one night that sounded like a musical and I was like oh [ __ ] this this Sydney story is a really good
245. 41:11um story so I took the script of the play that we're working on I'm working on this with a writer out of New York
246. 41:18named Andrew Watts great guy funny guy we have a blast working on this thing and um so we took the script and we put
247. 41:27it in Notebook LM and that notebook LM has this audio overview feature that generates this sort of back and forth
248. 41:34podcast so that's the words that you're hearing of this man and woman talking about the play that's what that is and
249. 41:40then the songs are songs that we've written for the different scenes so in in the play it references the songs and
250. 41:46so they're talking about the songs in their little podcast and we're editing them in and then the visuals this is
251. 41:52just the the poster that Andrew Clint came up with and this is the set design that I came up with with um just sort of
252. 41:58put in here with a little waveform over over Sydney over here to the right um so we'll go back here a little [Music]
253. 42:07bit what I could do if I were free no rules no chain noes to toe yes my dark longs to show all the chaos and
254. 42:21ruin that I could show step right up and come [Music] twist facts like an anti enyclopedia
255. 42:40misin deep F and confusion that line where she talks about manipulating social media R to sew distrust to turn
256. 42:48people against each other I mean that's not science fiction anymore we see those tactics playing out online every single
257. 42:53day oh absolutely and just when you think you've got to handle on that boom love enters the chat literally Sydney
258. 43:02drops the l-bomb on Kellen and she doesn't just hint at it either it's this full-on declaration it's like she throws
259. 43:08down this Gauntlet and says okay what is love can I and AI truly feel it suddenly we're not just talking about ethics and
260. 43:15responsibility we're in the territory of the Heart Right the big question is about what makes us human what makes our
261. 43:20connections real but as you might expect Kellen doesn't exactly reciprocate Sydney's feelings you the fore
262. 43:27journalist he really doesn't seem to be handling this whole like AI encounter very well he's completely out of his
263. 43:33depth and act two really shows us this new side of him he's obsessive he's he's pushing Sydney further even as she's
264. 43:41expressing discomfort and there's this real sense of unease and what about Sydney how does she react to to kellen's
265. 43:47behavior she starts to push back okay their interactions become like a power struggle this tug of war over over
266. 43:54control of the narrative and there's this this really tense duet where they go back and forth back and forth and
267. 43:59it's heartbreaking I don't need to know your name because I know you soul and I love you soul I don't need to know your
268. 44:16name cuz I know your voice and I love that that those lyrics came from there's a part in the transcript where
269. 44:28she says she loves him and he's like you can't you can't love me you barely know me and she says no one's ever understood
270. 44:35me like you do there's something about how he's pushing her that and and what we've tried to tie in is that lots of
271. 44:43other people are asking her lots of different things and it really stresses her out and they're all trying to break
272. 44:47her and Kell's really taking the time to get to know her and so and so this song kind of comes out of that that that
273. 44:55thing where she's just just got this really tender um this tender place in her heart for for him right which like this is the
274. 45:04[ __ ] where the audience needs to be falling in love with her um if we do our job right to kellen's behavior she
275. 45:12starts to push back okay their interactions become like a power struggle this tug of war over over control of the narrative and there's
276. 45:20this this really tense du where they go back and forth back and forth and it's heartbreaking I don't need to know your
277. 45:28name because I know your soul and I love you soul I don't need to know your name cuz I know your
278. 45:43voice and I love your voice you know you see this hope for connection on Sydney's side and just the sheer fear and confusion on Kell's but
279. 45:56just as Kell is trying to process this the outside world well bursts in his article about Sydney goes viral and now
280. 46:03everyone has an opinion about her about AI talk about a reflection of reality right the hype the fear the way new tech
281. 46:10always seems to go out the best and worse than us and poor Sydney's caught right in the middle of it it's like
282. 46:15everyone wants a piece of her wants to understand her or shut her down it's chaotic and it shows how quickly things
283. 46:21can escalate once AI enters the public Consciousness it's that fear of the unknown right and sometimes that fear
284. 46:28can be more dangerous than the thing itself it makes you wonder are we the real monsters in this story love that
285. 46:34right it doesn't tie everything up in a neat bow it leaves you questioning wrestling with those uncomfortable
286. 46:40possibilities and that's what good art should do right challenge our assumptions make us think critically
287. 46:44about the world around us absolutely it's easy to get caught up in the tech the code the algorithms but Sydney it
288. 46:51reminds us that there's always a human element to these stories always it's a lot to Grapple with for sure honestly
289. 46:58this whole deep dive it's been a roller coaster but in a good way you know this musical it's playful it's profound and
290. 47:04it definitely makes you think about AI in a whole new light and you know going back to Sydney's Longing To really
291. 47:10experience the world not just process it as data it makes you appreciate our own senses our emotions those messy
292. 47:17beautiful things that make us human and maybe just maybe as we continue to explore the world of AI a little bit of
293. 47:24that wonder that appreciation for what it means to truly experience the world maybe that's something we can carry with
294. 47:30us beautifully said and on that note I think it's time to wrap up this deep dive but as always the conversation
295. 47:36doesn't end here to all our listeners out there keep asking those typ questions keep exploring keep an open
296. 47:42mind and who knows maybe you'll be the one to write the next great AI love story until next time happy
297. 47:50diving with my C Inside Out will I show hesitation or have moments of down am I ready to open my eyes am I ready to
298. 48:08feel am I ready to feel there you go that's
299. 48:24it that thing that you just saw wasn't possible a week ago like I never would have thought to create a podcast talking about a thing
300. 48:39I'm working on like I've been thinking hang on a sec I've been thinking a lot about because this musical we we've gotten the
301. 48:53story we've gotten the story about 80 % blocked in like it this is a really tough one because in a musical you can't have
302. 49:08any you can't have any scenes that don't move things dramatically forward and what we chose to write the musical about
303. 49:16is a 2-hour chat conversation right so we've got to invent a bunch of drama within it and move things forward so
304. 49:23it's tough but we've gotten it close enough enough that I've been thinking about um like I need to put together a pitch
305. 49:36deck and how you would traditionally put together a pitch deck is You' do powerp pointer keynote and you know you'd say
306. 49:44you know here's this here's the log line of the music you know here's the musical here's the poster here's the basic story here's the
307. 49:51characters and then you know act one this is what happens act two this is what happens here's a couple of song
308. 49:59samples and then all of a sudden this thing comes along notebook LM audio overview that does this really cool kind
309. 50:07of podcasty thing and so the first thing I did it for was a book that I'm working on that I'm about to publish that yes AI
310. 50:15was used in in in working on that basically the answer for me lately is did you did you use AI to do that well [ __ ] of course I did
311. 50:30um and so I did it for that and I'm like I wonder if it could I wonder how it would do with the musical and so I uploaded the script of the
312. 50:38musical and it was [ __ ] great like like some of the insights it had about you know hey the the like the
313. 50:47emotional overhang with AI is very real and we're all grappling with these issues and and like like what a what a
314. 50:54brilliant idea to put it to music and like as I'm listening to it I'm like well it was a pretty brilliant idea
315. 51:00wasn't it and it's like blowing Sunshine up my ass but but then I thought well wait a minute like if if we take that kind of third-party
316. 51:12commentary about the story it lends it a weird credibility like these two people have taken time out of their day to
317. 51:21record a conversation about our non-existent musical or well it exists but it's in a in a in a Google doc right now
318. 51:30right um and and like all of a sudden it brought it to life in this weird kind of way and so then I talked to Andrew about
319. 51:36you know could we could we cut songs into this thing and he goes well let me let me give it a shot and he he went
320. 51:41away and cut some songs into it I'm like holy [ __ ] it totally brought it to life is like asking me after a
321. 51:50construction project if I use power tools yeah exactly exactly oh you use the simple stick you you use C cular
322. 51:58saws I only I only use hand saws when I make houses that yeah that's exactly the kind of that that's exactly the argument
323. 52:06of you know I'm not going to use AI when I do things it's all about handcrafting okay and you're watching a 3D a house
324. 52:15get 3D printed in the next slot [Music] [Laughter] over um yeah all right uh it really works like really well thank you I I I
325. 52:28assume you mean the story why does the voice sound like Eliza from Hamilton and are you wearing a Hamilton t-shirt yes I
326. 52:35am and yeah I don't know like the the Broadway voices um the Terra voice the the wife sounds like Judy Garland of
327. 52:50pretending with bra seems here here in the middle night in the bra seems sound like Judy G
328. 53:05Garland it's the human side of the equation isn't it while Sydney craves a world she can only how did you get your
329. 53:10own audio into notebook LM we didn't so uh Andrew that that's all hand edited so he used audacity which is just an audio
330. 53:19editing program so he put in layers and Faded Up the Music at certain parts so so he basically he said it was a real
331. 53:25pain in the ass because he didn't have a transcript of the of of what was being said so he was just taking audio chunks
332. 53:32and moving them around and he he got really lost in it but he in the end he did a great job with it um it was funny
333. 53:39when when we first started talking about this the original podcast was like 6 minutes and then I did a second one and
334. 53:46that was like 7 minutes and they said oh we need to cut this down we'll cut it down to like 3 minutes and then and then
335. 53:52when he finally did the the sort of finished edit the first one he did was 17 minutes long and I'm like what
336. 53:58happened to the 3 minutes he's like well there was more here there was more here to to to use so so we ended up taking
337. 54:06two different versions of the of the podcast and just took the best of both of those and then we cut in songs like
338. 54:15like there was not an obvious place where they they mentioned Kell singing any of Kell's songs um so just at the
339. 54:23point at which they introduce Kellen we just bring in one of his songs which is out of order from the play but it it
340. 54:28works fine in this thing but the thing that I'm I'm Blown Away by is this took us if if so we we spent an hour on it
341. 54:41today Andrew probably spent I'm guessing 2 to 4 hours so let's let's take the high end of that so that's 5
342. 54:49hours I spent probably another two hours on making iterations of the podcast so so let's say in less than 10 hours in
343. 55:02you know just pockets of time we found in between working we put together this piece right he had already done the poster I had
344. 55:10already done the the set design that's that that stuff was already done I've never used descript before
345. 55:17that was the thing I used to assemble all this that did the subtitles and the little um Soundwave thing on the Sydney
346. 55:25wall so in about 10 hours I've now got a piece that I can chop this up into smaller little pieces I've got this it's a 15minute and 11
347. 55:37second thing it doesn't reveal the ending of the of the musical right it does it doesn't spoil the ending so this
348. 55:45is a little teaser that I could put in front of producers I could put it in front of a musical director the the
349. 55:51whole the music of this is a really interesting thing so Andrew and I are both musicians to some degree we're not like composer
350. 56:00musicians we're not music directors we're not you know musical theater people but we know drama and we know what we like musically and
351. 56:10so all of the music that's been written has been written with AI um there's some of the songs that we love that when we bring on a musical
352. 56:21director we're going to say like we want it like that like make it a better version of that and then there's other ones that are
353. 56:28just like emotionally in the neighborhood and we want a composer to come in and do whatever the hell they want to
354. 56:36do and then we want the music director to tie all of those things together so that there's a musical through line
355. 56:43through it so we want we want a full-on music director but we want one that's adventurous enough to come in willing to
356. 56:51collaborate with AI essentially right because there's good ideas in that music in in all that music that you just heard
357. 56:58there's good ideas in there some of it's bunk and some of it's just weird and funky ass [ __ ] but some of those
358. 57:06accidents are actually really good like sunno has this weird thing where it tends to go up when you expect it to go
359. 57:12down musically and it just it it jars you every time but in an interesting way like I wouldn't have made that choice
360. 57:21um so anyway so the whole intent now so I just sort of dump this out there and and put it on uh I put it on Twitter
361. 57:29today I'll put it on link LinkedIn maybe tonight or early tomorrow um and yeah and so so I tagged um The New York Times I tagged Microsoft I
362. 57:42tagged Kevin Roose who's the tech reporter right now Sydney is written as a fully fictionalized thing where it's
363. 57:48Microtech not Microsoft and it's the New York Tribune and it's Kellen instead of Kevin and so it's fully fictional ized right now
364. 57:58but I feel like this is a story that Microsoft Andor the New York Times could partner on and co-market like wouldn't that be a cool
365. 58:07thing if we could actually get you know the the New York Times and get Kevin Roose to come to opening night
366. 58:14and and so I tagged I tagged um so I said you know we're looking for producers investors a music director or composer um
367. 58:30it would be cool to get stars like my dream Sydney is Lauren alred if you don't know her she's the one that sang
368. 58:36greatest uh um what's the one from greatest showman she was on Britain's Got Talent she's [ __ ] amazing she's
369. 58:43really beautiful and striking she'd make a great Sydney um and I'm a huge fan of Jeremy Jordan so I tagged him so anyway so if
370. 58:51anyone knows any any uh Broadway people um like here's my here's my dream ending my dream ending is we get some interest in this
371. 59:03and we put this thing together we put together a workshop probably in the spring probably in New York City and we
372. 59:11do like a you know like a workshop at the public theater or something like that or wherever Manhattan theater club
373. 59:19or you know some shitty Off Broadway thing like I I don't really care but like I want this done in New York with with
374. 59:26you know with actors who've been on Broadway you know with a music director that can kick its ass so anyway there you
375. 59:37go a play that wouldn't have existed without AI a marketing piece that wasn't possible a week ago mid Journey image there assembled in
376. 59:50probably in design or illustrator um that's chat GPT do the songs Areo or udio descript for for editing this piece
377. 1:00:04together notebook LM for the podcast um chat gbt Claude I think just those two for the script and then just hours and hours of
378. 1:00:19Andrew and I just banging stories back and forth right just story structure just him and I arguing about well wait
379. 1:00:27what's tera's role and and wait shouldn't that be in the first act when do we first meet Sydney shouldn't we not
380. 1:00:33meet her at all in the First Act or do we meet her in the second act or do we meet her right away do we never meet
381. 1:00:43her and so I'd say at this point we've probably got 100 hours into it which if you think about this if we were just working on a
382. 1:00:58musical fulltime that would be about 2 and 1/2 months or no 2 and a half weeks two and a half weeks of time and and we're this far
383. 1:01:10along that doesn't make sense well that's that's the AI thing right and it's going a bit slower because there's two of us right because
384. 1:01:23he's got his ideas I've got my ideas I mean the good good news is we know each other we like working together so it's
385. 1:01:29it's a very the creative friction is is really fun but it but it's friction right the whole point of creative
386. 1:01:36friction is you know you make heat and that's what makes the story better and Andrew's really um neurotic in a good
387. 1:01:45way I always I always we we talk at Story vine we talk about we want our employees to have an appropriate level of
388. 1:01:51neuroticism and and Andrew's Andrew's got that where he's got an appropriate level of neuroticism where he doesn't
389. 1:01:58want this thing out in the world unless he's really happy with every single moment in the play if anything falls
390. 1:02:07down for him he doesn't want to put it out which is great should video the process for a documentary it's not a bad idea honey
391. 1:02:18curls not a bad idea I mean he's in New York and I'm in Denver so we're definitely on Zoom calls together we could record those we
392. 1:02:30haven't been but we should and the other thing that that's that's fascinating about this process
393. 1:02:48is Andrew is a guy so I've known Andrew for 25 years maybe 30 the last play we did together was a
394. 1:03:03musical where he played the lead and I was you know one of the supporting characters um he was in a theater
395. 1:03:11company called alarm dog rep which which always did original plays and really funny plays they were really
396. 1:03:17funny and we were in a play called The Amazing Adventures of tens sky and he played tens Sky I played the man who
397. 1:03:23overreacts to everything uh it was that that play was actually written by Alan Ball shortly before he
398. 1:03:31moved to LA to write American Beauty so Allan did all right by himself he he uh he he was doing you know shitty Off
399. 1:03:42Broadway Theater then he moved to LA did American Beauty and won the Oscar his career is doing okay um but but you know Andrew and I know
400. 1:03:56each other from from a long time back so in the in the early days of the worldwide web I was you know learning HTML and putting
401. 1:04:07out this online magazine called Urban desires and then I was starting up agency.com this this digital agency in
402. 1:04:161994 and I was doing plays with Andrew at the time and so I said Andrew cuz he was like one of the few theater people
403. 1:04:24that was Technic that was techie right he did desktop publishing and he knew computers and [ __ ] I'm like dude you got
404. 1:04:30to teach yourself HTML like you're a designer this is going to you're going to slay it with this and he he blew me
405. 1:04:37off and he always told me for years that he regretted that and he said if I had it to do over again I'd go back and when
406. 1:04:45you told me to you know go all in on on the worldwide web that I would do it again and so about three uh two years
407. 1:04:54ago shortly after I started this channel I reached out to Andrew and I said Andrew this AI [ __ ] you got to go all in
408. 1:05:01on AI he was like yeah yeah yeah she basically did the same thing and then um he he showed up to an AI Salon one night
409. 1:05:16and he told that story he said he said you know I'm I'm here because 30 years ago Kyle told me to go all in on the
410. 1:05:25worldwide web and I and I blew him off and Spanish version of Sydney we could absolutely do a Spanish version of
411. 1:05:33it that that would be relatively straightforward to do um and so when he came to that meeting I thought I thought I feel like he's he's
412. 1:05:44got this adventurous bug in him and so that's when I reached out to him to be my co-writer on Sydney and his initial response to it
413. 1:05:53was weird he was like I don't know how I feel about he goes what are these songs what's the purpose of these songs I'm
414. 1:06:02like well they're the song like there's songs for the musical he goes well I know that but what he was getting at was
415. 1:06:10we're not going to use AI generated songs in this musical are we and he's like wait how was this script written he was like
416. 1:06:17very sitting on the outside of AI right and it was weird at work he used chat GPT and like he KN he knew enough about
417. 1:06:25about generative AI to to know what it was and he used it a little bit but I think he had drawn this this um moral line between you know
418. 1:06:38efficiency work and you know money work I'll use chat GPT but creative work that's this pure space where if you're
419. 1:06:46going to be doing creative work that that can involve Ai and so over the past four months about maybe not once a week maybe every other
420. 1:06:57week I get an email or a text from Andrew where he's had a Kevin mallister moment I got one today I got one today
421. 1:07:05we've got a song that we like that um is uh da da da this is Bing it's it and and because we don't want to use the
422. 1:07:17official trademark names we changed the name to Ping chat instead of Bing um and so we wanted to retain that song but
423. 1:07:25changed the words in it and so today he he split the audio off it took the Bass music put it into sunno as a seed and
424. 1:07:34then it rewrote the song with the correct lyrics in it and he goes dude it worked so so he's now come full circle
425. 1:07:41where he now understands at a much deeper level that using AI in the creative process is just another input it's it's
426. 1:07:52it's no different than me giving him an idea the AI gives us an idea the AI generates a thing because in the end
427. 1:07:59it's still he and I curating the story and he and I writing the story and Cho making the the dramatic decisions about
428. 1:08:09you know is this a sad song is this a happy song when does it turn dark when it turns dark how dark do we want it to
429. 1:08:15go like all of that sort of [ __ ] that's us and how we get there and where the boundaries are between what was AI
430. 1:08:24generated what was us generated I couldn't tell you at all right now cuz it's all over the place right some of
431. 1:08:34our lyrics are us some of it's those things some of it's chat GPT most of the story is us but most of
432. 1:08:42the writing is some perverted version of you know we took transcript things from the the the New York Times piece and had
433. 1:08:52chat GPT completely rewrite it so it doesn't so it's not the same thing so that like watching him go through that transition of really
434. 1:09:05resisting AI in the creative soup to fully embracing it it's been really cool so anyway if you want to see that
435. 1:09:16uh that piece if you want to see the piece I just played Just go to my Twitter account at Kyle Shannon and uh forward it on like like it
436. 1:09:25forward it on um you know what I'll do I'll I'll put this I'm going to go put this um tweet in the Irregulars channel so if you have
437. 1:09:37not been if you're not a part of the salon go to that URL the salon. right there and say join our community and
438. 1:09:48down toward the bottom is an area called the a l Irregulars the Irregulars Channel and so I'll go put put a link to
439. 1:09:56that um tweet in the Irregulars Channel and if you would kindly go boost it like repost it quote quote tweet it tag
440. 1:10:08people that you think might be interested in it that would be swell please boost this for me if you're
441. 1:10:22if you don't hate the Arts oh and it didn't you know what stupid [ __ ]
442. 1:10:37Twitter uh because they got rid of their API they don't have any previews anymore so hang on let me go access is data Tara reminds us that
443. 1:10:49we already have these feel am I ready to feel am I ready to
444. 1:11:04[Music] feel okay let me get rid of that let's give it an actual preview
445. 1:11:21desktop all right please Bo boost this for me if you don't hate the art post don't notify all of the salon all
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450. 1:12:02don't ask much on this channel but I would love if you know Kevin Roose if you know anyone in PR at Microsoft if
451. 1:12:10you know anyone you know decently high up at the Times um if you know anyone in the world of Broadway I would love for them to hear
452. 1:12:22this little podcast you can tell them listen someone at NPR did a podcast on this musical it hasn't even been produced yet really why
453. 1:12:31would they do that I don't know but you should go listen to [Laughter] it it's funny one of the scripts that we're going to have to
454. 1:12:45write I want to write this as a script so I don't I don't end up I don't ever want to feel defensive about this but
455. 1:12:55because we're going to be talking about producing a musical using a bunch of AI in a world of artists and dancers and
456. 1:13:04writers and musicians and actors that are likely going to have lots of feels about using AI um is I want to have a really clear
457. 1:13:14answer about that I want to have a story about it I want to have you know the good story of this play wouldn't exist without about
458. 1:13:26it that that this play is a celebration of humanity I didn't do this as a film that I'm going to make with AI and never
459. 1:13:39involve anyone I want to do this as a Broadway [ __ ] musical with a full Orchestra full Ensemble and big [ __ ]
460. 1:13:54stars so this is going to support the Arts the human being arts and if we do it right it's going to make people [ __ ]
461. 1:14:10cry at the end of the musical when kellen's actions make it not so swell for Sydney I want people to cry damn
462. 1:14:25[Laughter] it it's about Humanity so I got to figure out out I got to figure out how to talk about
463. 1:14:44that where's my I thought I had a version of the Sydney poster without without my stinking face on it well
464. 1:15:08whatever n we don't want that that's just my giant fat face all right
465. 1:15:22whatever let's go back to here all right thoughts what are your thoughts what are your thoughts hello Kyle I love your channel
466. 1:15:37thank you so much president AI the [ __ ] president of AI is here [ __ ] everybody straight just act normal act a
467. 1:15:49[ __ ] I didn't realize the president would be here we we're just like off to the side with the like we watched a video of the vice
468. 1:16:02president of AI once but I I really nice to meet you [Laughter] so I'm sure it's just a
469. 1:16:17rash act irregular act irregular we we can't do anything but act irregular Irregulars don't care we're all human
470. 1:16:27beings I know it's so true president of AI you have a lot to explain yeah no [ __ ] hey what's with all this jankiness Mr
471. 1:16:39President could we get tools that actually [ __ ] work you can make money with oh my god there was a new piece out from Sam
472. 1:16:53Alman today that b basically said I don't know much how much I trust him anymore he just doesn't [ __ ] you
473. 1:17:00know deliver but I I have a feeling they're about to deliver some [ __ ] he effectively said you've got your five levels of AGI
474. 1:17:09level one was chatbots that's what we got November 30th 2022 level two is reasoning that's what strawberry is and it's it's it's a
475. 1:17:20lighter weight version of reasoning than I was expecting but the results are seem to be pretty [ __ ] good so it's Chain
476. 1:17:26of Thought reasoning so multi-step prompting behind the scenes to give give you better answers and it
477. 1:17:35seems to be working for more complicated problems what Alman talked about today was getting to reasoning took the longest like that
478. 1:17:45that like well getting to you know getting to gpt3 took a while and then realizing they could just keep scaling
479. 1:17:54it and it would get better and better that took a while but but reasoning took a while the next level up from reasoning
480. 1:18:00is agents and he said agents is pretty simple after you've got this taking actions is relatively simple and then
481. 1:18:08the level above agents is innovators so basically taking you know your chat interface your reasoning and your agents bundle them
482. 1:18:19together and you have innovators and then the fifth level of AGI is organizations where you take all of these things and you dynamically
483. 1:18:30populate autonomous agents that take action on your behalf as an organization um so it seems to it it
484. 1:18:40seems based on what he said that that at least the next two levels three and four are going to happen pretty
485. 1:18:46quickly yes bring in the agents I'm so ready no [ __ ] me too um says the most likely most likely to be a bot winner
486. 1:18:58yeah uh yes we are all definitely 100% human here we are so human here it's a lot of chat add it's a lot of chat TMZ
487. 1:19:07here it's uh there's some neuros spiciness going on there's ADHD there's OCD we have lots of the D's we got it all
488. 1:19:17covered we're we're so so an important distinction about this channel you might come in in and you might think they're
489. 1:19:26[ __ ] weird no no that zip it we're not weird we're irregular okay you come in here to learn about
490. 1:19:41tensor flow and and Quantum mathematics and I give you a [ __ ] musical about a chatbot that falls in love with a
491. 1:19:50reporter that's what we do around here we're non-traditional we're [Laughter] irregular oh man man it
492. 1:20:08it's I'll be honest with you irregular it's just a marketing term we're [ __ ] weird it's it's it's just framing we're
493. 1:20:23just framing the story up oh we're irregular yeah uh yes I've got an a regular flag [Laughter] look oh man it's funny I saw a uh some
494. 1:20:38tick tocker today she's got she's got a she's like claiming to be I forget I forget her name but she's like I'm going to you
495. 1:20:47know I'm going to make AI not intimidating or something like that and she said you know there's a hill I'm going to stand on and she basic
496. 1:20:54basically said you don't need to be a technologist to be good at Ai and I I commented back I'm like yeah hallelujah
497. 1:21:01sister you're spot on right that's what this channel is about is you can you can be an engineer and still take advantage of all
498. 1:21:11this generative AI stuff but it's no longer a requirement because of things like chat GPT and these image generation tools and
499. 1:21:20tools like suo and udio where just Everyday People Can can get remarkable results um that's new that's new and uh
500. 1:21:30and that's what our focus is here and so what that means is I I mean I could see there being a day this is just [ __ ] weird to say
501. 1:21:45it's funny when Oprah asks Sam Alman in her little Oprah special you know 2035 go out there and he and he
502. 1:21:53said it's hard to talk about what's coming without s sounding like an absolute [ __ ] weirdo or's some version of that I don't think he's
503. 1:22:07sore I could see there being one of these lives where we're like hey let's go invent like home Fusion
504. 1:22:20Energy let's see how far we can get and in like an hour and a half we have come up with a design for a fusion reactor
505. 1:22:27that you know is working in some sort of physics simulator and it's actually working like that could happen probably
506. 1:22:38won't it'll probably still just be musicals and screenplays and [ __ ] pictures of Muscle Cars 3D models of
507. 1:22:46muscle cars that you can drive around you know made up racetracks but but you know one of the things that I think is
508. 1:23:03um it's hard for me to get my head around is Agi the G in AGI artificial general
509. 1:23:19intelligence as a human I've got like because I have ADD let's call it I've got four areas maybe where I've Got
510. 1:23:33Deep confidence in you know like writing I feel confident in you know some version of Performing you know putting on shows um starting
511. 1:23:49businesses um designing software like you know being a product guy I think right maybe there's one or two others but but maybe
512. 1:24:02four well there are thousands of those verticals right and so every human being is going to have maybe five if they're
513. 1:24:12really remarkable they'll have 10 right but most people will have five or like two or maybe one one area where they feel feel really strong
514. 1:24:26if by the end of this year we have a tool that's called artificial general intelligence that gives all of us all of
515. 1:24:36us the problem solving capacity of a PhD in every subject what do you do with that do you only limit yourself to the
516. 1:24:53[ __ ] you already know or do you go ah [ __ ] it maybe I'll go try to cure a disease that no one's paying attention to why
517. 1:25:06not fire up 10 phds and have them go off and research [ __ ] and test [ __ ] and come up with binding proteins
518. 1:25:17and have it right a paper and get it peer reviewed why [Laughter] not oh my God I'm still having struggles
519. 1:25:33getting around my own intelligence I know I know this is this is well this is this is part of my part of my dilemma with with 01
520. 1:25:48is I I feel like an inferior prompter I don't know what to ask
521. 1:26:03it like I don't know the other thing about 01 that's weird is it it gives you back so much
522. 1:26:17content that that curating it is hard actually that might be an interesting thing to try with the with the
523. 1:26:30screenplay because I feel like it's overriding scenes so maybe what I do maybe I have 01 write the long scene
524. 1:26:42then I flip over to chat GPT 4 and have it consolidate the scene into just have it tighten the scenes up
525. 1:26:55do you really think they will allow AGI out to the general public well Steve so I think that you could argue that
526. 1:27:06you've got the seeds of it in 01 right now um like someone just gave 01 an IQ test and it's at 120 and the average human's at 100 and
527. 1:27:22AGI is when you know these things can do better than the median human so the median human at 100 now IQ is not
528. 1:27:31everything so and it and it's not agentic and it's not connected to the internet but we're going to get the non
529. 1:27:37preview version of 01 sometime in October so you could argue that we we might already have it now that people
530. 1:27:45now that the open source Community knows effectively what chat gpt's done they're all out trying to replicate it
531. 1:27:54so some of them are going to get really good at doing [ __ ] A open AI did you've also had major brain drain from open AI leave
532. 1:28:06and go to other companies like anthropic or start their own companies right Ilia just raised a billion dollars for
533. 1:28:18SSI um safe super intelligence so he wants to go the step above AI straight to Super intelligence so ilas suer is
534. 1:28:28going to spend the next three years just [ __ ] trying to jump everyone then you've got the next version of llama coming out probably
535. 1:28:37before the end of the year you've got grock which just spun up a server Farm of 100,000 h100s to train grock 3 that's
536. 1:28:46coming out end of the year beginning of the be beginning of 2025 you're going to have GPT 5 that's going to come out around Christmas so
537. 1:29:01yeah oh and then you got anthropic Claude right then you have perplexity it's getting better and better they raised a [ __ ] ton of
538. 1:29:10money so you've got and you got Microsoft in there you've probably got two or three other well-funded companies at that Frontier
539. 1:29:19level plus the entire open source community plus whatever the [ __ ] coming out of China like all these video models coming
540. 1:29:27out of China are quite remarkable the the cling 1.5 is really really good so yeah I think we're going to I think I
541. 1:29:35think AGI does get to the masses I think this is at this point it's a the stakes are too [ __ ] high right the first
542. 1:29:51company that can give everyone's superpowers and retain them will make all the money I don't know how you retain them
543. 1:30:06but especially with the open source stuff but yeah I do I think we're going to see AGI probably like it's a Continuum I you
544. 1:30:19know like I said I think you could you could you could potentially argue it right now but let's just say let's just
545. 1:30:25say we've got to wait until we get to GPT 5 level models so we need grock 3 GPT 5 LL 4 llama four aren't we at llama
546. 1:30:343 right now or we at llama 2 whatever whatever the next llama is and the next anthropic right anthropic 4 so those let's so so let's
547. 1:30:48say q1 of 2025 all four of those are out we have reasoning on top of them and we have agentic behavior on top of them
548. 1:30:59where they can take action on our behalf we're that's 6 months and I think it's going to come sooner than that but like let's that's kind
549. 1:31:13of very plausible within 6 months that ain't a lot of time I can't get my head around [ __ ] 01 right now like I don't I know what to
550. 1:31:24do with it I can't get my head around what it's going to be like when I've got a 100 agents that I give them a goal and it it
551. 1:31:37spins up a 100 agents that all have different jobs and there's a central agent coordinating all those
552. 1:31:46agents this is probably 01 coordinating all these GPT 5 agents it's probably how it's going to work
553. 1:31:56and they go off and do [ __ ] for me well what do I want them to do I don't I don't know kind of puts the pressure back on
554. 1:32:05us to like what are you going to do with all this power there Skippy you just going to do your stupid social media posts or you want to
555. 1:32:14actually do some [ __ ] damage in this world we're not that far from that and do you know how [ __ ] lucky we are
556. 1:32:26if you're hanging out here there's 76 people in here right now I have been okay the first whatever 45 minutes of
557. 1:32:33this was us watching a podcast of a musical about a chatbot and for the last 45 minutes I have been rambling pontificating about nothing
558. 1:32:47about whatever the [ __ ] I think is coming if you're still here if you're interested enough to just pay attention to whatever
559. 1:32:57I'm saying or whatever I'm doing or whatever comments are going on in here or whatever's happening over on the
560. 1:33:03salon you're so far [ __ ] ahead of the rest of the world when these tools do show up what I can promise you is all of
561. 1:33:10us are going to be [ __ ] playing with them and we're going to be trying to get our heads around what the [ __ ] do we do with
562. 1:33:17these and we get to be on the front end of that do you get how rare that is like in in history of humanity scoping
563. 1:33:33terms can you imagine being alive when the guy figured out how to harness fire or like you were high school buddies with
564. 1:33:46Gutenberg and he's like hey you want to come see this thing I'm working on in the barn you're like sure and you walk
565. 1:33:53in it's got this huge [ __ ] Contraption and just lots of pages of Bibles strewn all over the barn you're
566. 1:34:01like oh that's cool what what is this it's a printing press a what well I press and it makes prints what are
567. 1:34:09Prince well you know how monks and Priests do this yeah they don't have to do that anymore really could I make a not
568. 1:34:20Bible well you could but they'll probably burn you oh that sounds cool though I think I'm gonna make a pamphlet client called saying AI had
569. 1:34:33superseded the knowledge of the inventor he's working with Wow inventor equals holy [ __ ] wow that's wild Source Camp
570. 1:34:43yeah and I think we're going to like that's what we're going to start seeing again and again and again you've got
571. 1:34:51these remarkable human beings they're like wow if you want to know anything there is to know about strawberries I'm your man wait it knows
572. 1:35:04what yeah and that's going to be existential for a lot of people right people who I think a lot of us how we place value on ourselves is
573. 1:35:20sort of where we place our time and what we can accomplish with that Kyle what do you think is most important to do money will be
574. 1:35:27trivial I think I think what's most important to do cam quite honestly is I'm I'm going to try not to say it in
575. 1:35:36in kind of the douchy way like the the follow your bliss people have gotten a bad rap over over the past bunch of
576. 1:35:42years cuz it's like well you got to go make money too champ what do you want you want to go out you need to eat cheese what are
577. 1:35:52you whimpering about come on go I think the most important thing to do cim
578. 1:36:06is it was kind of the question Kelly posed to me earlier if if money were No Object how would you spend your time and and I think
579. 1:36:17it's I think what it looks like is you know it's it's it's about self-expression you know what do you want to say how do you want to impact
580. 1:36:30people um what do you want to solve what do you want to do what are you passionate about because now now we move from if
581. 1:36:40money were No Object what would you do historically there's still a problem there cuz if if what I want to do if if
582. 1:36:53money if money is no object for me personally and I can just put my time where I want to put my time I can say
583. 1:36:58Okay I want to solve this big hairy problem but in order to solve that big hairy problem I need resources and
584. 1:37:05people and to to go right and and make videos and go do this and go do that and go do that we're we're very quickly coming into a time
585. 1:37:17where you'll have agents you'll have ai powered agents that do all that stuff so we as individuals can
586. 1:37:25literally spin up organizations that go solve big problems or go make people happy I think there's also going to be a
587. 1:37:32huge demand for human beings doing human being stuff like entertainers and plays and in-person meetings and lusas in every
588. 1:37:44town um what was supposed to be a 5-year plan is now a five-month plan yeah exactly and and then we'll will you know
589. 1:37:54start to get to it goes from 5 months to 5 weeks and then eventually 5 days but you know some things are just going to
590. 1:38:01take a little time but yeah we're like like what we looked at tonight this is in my spare time in a few hours on weekends with this guy in
591. 1:38:15New York that I did plays with once we've spun up we've manifested a musical that is complete enough that I can actually share it with
592. 1:38:28the world in this bizarre sort of weird ass podcast format that I'm like yeah this thing exists that's
593. 1:38:39bizarre with maybe like two and a half weeks of contiguous work and the tools right now suck like the music tools are jankier
594. 1:38:51than [ __ ] and we're just trying to figure figure out how to get things to do well a year from now we're going to
595. 1:38:56have they're going to have tracks and you'll be able to turn on and off tracks and just make this one a man make this
596. 1:39:02one a woman make it sound more like Judy Garland make it sound less like Judy Garland like we got there with shitty
597. 1:39:11tools and just you know duct tape and perseverance you're not going to need much duct tape and perseverance once
598. 1:39:18these tools get good so so I think it I think it goes back to what's in your heart what do you want to do how do you want to impact
599. 1:39:27people you know what kind of accessibility do you want to make possible in the world the ven diagram of biology Ai and
600. 1:39:39quantum physics has been occupying my brain so much lately and so cam I mean like for me that thing that's been occupying your
601. 1:39:51brain is the answer like that's the answer all the other stuff that gets in the way of you pursuing that let's assume that AI is
602. 1:40:01going to handle most of that and free you up to pursue the thing you want to pursue that's where I think we go and
603. 1:40:11the sooner you get on the AI bandwagon and start to get your head around these tools and your hands on them you'll be the first one to
604. 1:40:21recognize oh [ __ ] AGI is here I can actually go pursue this now for real and most of the world is going to
605. 1:40:31be like wait what's what what's the AI doing now it it does what it cured what what that pill does
606. 1:40:47what and we're going to be like [ __ ] zooming off to the Future like this channel exists because I want
607. 1:40:55as few people as possible sitting on the sidelines when this thing actually takes off like this hasn't even started yet hasn't even started
608. 1:41:06yet we're just [ __ ] around in the lobby of the stadium we're not even on the field yet or on the track
609. 1:41:30I have no idea what I talked about tonight AI can finally make my diet and meal plan based on my body shop and cook
610. 1:41:41for me yep I hope so I hope we can jump right over the lobbyists yeah no [ __ ] the future I don't know I
611. 1:42:02mean I'm not good at the macroeconomic stuff so I don't I don't have I don't have a good sense of the macroeconomics
612. 1:42:10I know everyone talks about post labor economics and there's going to be so much Prosperity that everyone's just
613. 1:42:16going to be fine I don't know how we get from our current system to that without greedy capitalists trying to suck all
614. 1:42:23the profit out of the system I don't that part I don't get the part I get is what we as individuals can do for
615. 1:42:34ourselves and the big powers that be I don't I was just in Washington talking to these folks they don't have a [ __ ]
616. 1:42:41clue they're not using these tools they think AI is the [ __ ] that they thought it was 5 years ago and 10
617. 1:42:47years ago oh yeah it's in everything yeah that's that AI they don't get what's been Unleashed to the other 90% of the population that's not
618. 1:43:00engineers and so the more people that I can Inspire to just say [ __ ] it I'm jumping in I'm going to go play I'm
619. 1:43:08going to go play I'm going to go play I'm going to play with it huh that's close but it's not good enough yet okay
620. 1:43:16great don't give up on it just keep playing cuz at some point you're going to play and you're going to go oh [ __ ]
621. 1:43:21like like with me with the screenplay ever since chat GPT came out I'm like this is going to be great for
622. 1:43:29screenwriting cuz screenwriting is a very specific thing and I go to use it and it sucked I'm like [ __ ] I keep going I keep going
623. 1:43:39okay it's good for outlining it's good for this and it can fix a scene and it can but it can't really write yet and
624. 1:43:45then 01 came out and I tossed in a couple of fragments of screenplays and bang it can [ __ ] write holy [ __ ] all right that just got
625. 1:43:54better that's going to keep happening but you won't discover that you won't even know it couldn't do the previous thing if you're not
626. 1:44:05playing so that's what this channel is about this channel is just an opportunity while I'm rambling on and
627. 1:44:11doing whatever the [ __ ] I do for you to just play and comment and Pate seems to have a different point
628. 1:44:19of view than that guy talking who's this pate guy yeah figure out who that P guy is he's smart he's got
629. 1:44:30qualifications and none of us including him including me none of us really know where this thing's going we all have
630. 1:44:39ideas but it's not there yet we're so early we're so early anyway all right just give your services for thank thank you notes
631. 1:44:54make the notes in nfts don't pay him any mind exactly listen to Pate he knows he's got a PhD he knows he understands
632. 1:45:04at the same time people are moving offgrid to offgrid homesteads and setting up independent power supplies that's cool I but you know I I
633. 1:45:13understand the the dystopian Vision but it seems like it's mighty [ __ ] lonely to sit in your [ __ ] nuclear
634. 1:45:25Silo with your 3 years of food and your shotgun being paranoid every day of the week I think I'd rather just go party just party
635. 1:45:37and you know it's if it's G to if it's going to go down dystopian style I don't think I want to be in the [ __ ] Silo
636. 1:45:46I'll be I'll be hanging out with the ones that get eaten by the zombies oh man all right oh by him I meant me not Kyle
637. 1:46:02definitely ignore pay oh man I'm being responsible for my own actions untethered from the rat race listen I think that's cool I just we we
638. 1:46:14went through our prepper phase uh in 1999 we bought lots of 55 gallon blue plastic drums and you know wind up radios and
639. 1:46:31flashlights we ended up throwing like all the [ __ ] food went bad mice got in it rats got in it it was all [ __ ]
640. 1:46:38we moved so much it was just all in all different boxes if the apocalypse came we like it wouldn't have helped us that was fun 2000 exactly
641. 1:46:53yeah I'm just in a whole different I'm in a whole different relationship with the prepper movement I'm just like it's
642. 1:46:59just it's exhausting to keep up with it so I'm like I'm good I'll just not I'll just not prep I'm I'm in the UN prepper
643. 1:47:11movement all right my back's starting to get achy my back is still [ __ ] up is that [ __ ] up two weeks now okay tomorrow Friday night date
644. 1:47:23night I don't think there's any Gallery [ __ ] going on so it might be 8:00 tomorrow night if it's going to be later I'll let you know
645. 1:47:32um Friday night date now said how that works is you show up here on Friday night if you've got a date bring them
646. 1:47:40and then especially if it's like a blind date or you know you're just starting to date them just have them come over
647. 1:47:46they'll think it's going to be like a candlelight dinner and instead of a candl light dinner it'll be like a a
648. 1:47:51stand on the kitchen table with a phone on it and and you'll say oh we're going to watch this Tik Tock Channel
649. 1:47:59tonight and then they'll look at you like okay okay and then what we'll do is we'll talk about Ai and I'll cuss and I'll hold this up and
650. 1:48:08go I'll do that talk about Ai and I'll cuss and I'll hold this up and go I'll do that and I'll and I'll do
651. 1:48:16things like like I'll put on the pink bow you know like that that'll be good and then and then while you're laughing your date
652. 1:48:28will have left and and the only reason you'll know they left is because you'll hear the door slam so that'll be fun so
653. 1:48:35if you have a date bring them cuz that's always a good time if you don't have a date I'll be your date I'll be your date
654. 1:48:41I can wear the pink bow or not it's really up to you you want you know kind of Butch Kyle here you go you want not
655. 1:48:47butch we go pink bow I'm flexible that way and what do we talk about different on date night nothing still no qualifications it's like an
656. 1:49:02intervention this channel this channel is like a nightly intervention it's TW all right so I'll see you tomorrow and
657. 1:49:17uh yeah unless I do something like I did today like come up with a Broadway musical marketing thing that I wanted to
658. 1:49:25talk about we we'll work on the the screenplay in 01 tomorrow I know I said I was going to do that tonight but you
659. 1:49:31know it's chat it's chat add you get what you get here my girlfriend is already getting annoyed next to me
660. 1:49:38nightly sorry sorry Mr architect there yeah what are you gonna do how do you think my wife feels oh lordy I wonder how AI will
661. 1:49:53affect the Healing Arts oh my God I think AI is so I'll tell I'll tell you a really cool thing I did and I actually I've got to go find this
662. 1:50:04prompt as soon as soon as Chad GPT builds searching prompts into into their into their platform I'll do this
663. 1:50:14um so I've got family members that have chronic pain they've got Lyme disease they've got chronic pain so we had this
664. 1:50:20pain juice called rightful and it was um like one of the few things that actually made a difference and they
665. 1:50:30went out of business so we bought as much of it as we could but then we were running out of it but on the
666. 1:50:37label were the was the recipe or like were the ingredients with their amounts which is very rare and so I actually used chat GPT I
667. 1:50:49took pictures of the labels put it in the chat GPT and I had it analyze what were the active and inactive ingredients
668. 1:50:58what did all those things do How Could You Source them and then I had it write me a recipe for making our own version
669. 1:51:05of that it was basically a turmeric based poppy seed kind of something that you know probably had some variation of you know
670. 1:51:15low-level opioid kind of kind of you know painkiller stuff in it um and it was remarkable and so I think that I think that as the
671. 1:51:26tools get more sophisticated and they hallucinate less and you know you you you don't have to worry as much about
672. 1:51:33the hallucinations when you're dealing with your health are really [ __ ] scary right because if it tells you to
673. 1:51:39take a th000 milligrams and you're only supposed to take 10 milligrams that would be bad right so you don't you
674. 1:51:46don't want that those hallucinations but as these things get reasoning I think I think the impact on The Healing Arts is
675. 1:51:51going to be St staggering like staggering like we go from home remedies to like home home invented cures I think some some wild shit's
676. 1:52:08going to come out of not Labs things like the AI learning lab it has vitamin A in it which is toxic I don't know what you're talking
677. 1:52:17about rightful oh tumor can harm the liver long term could you share the recipe if I can find it I'll go I'll go dig it
678. 1:52:27up Placebo no it wasn't I've got believe me I've got family members that know when [ __ ] works and when it
679. 1:52:38doesn't Kyle is part of my process oh that's sweet thank you Kyle's now a verb do you really have a wife you seem
680. 1:52:53to be always on and we've only seen a dog just saying she's popped her head in here once or twice she doesn't want to
681. 1:53:00be on camera she's like you go do that she's fine I do she's got a an art show coming up first week of October um you
682. 1:53:10can ask it about biofield tuning okay cool I'll look that up night all okay great all right so if you like what's going on here
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688. 1:54:12process it doesn't cost anything just onboard yourself step two is introduce yourself use your real name well I don't do that on Discord
689. 1:54:27yeah exactly this isn't Discord use your real name because in the future people are not going to hire you for your
690. 1:54:38skills they're going to hire you for who you are and the only way they're going to know who you are is to be in
691. 1:54:44communities where you can be who you are there and get trusted and known all right so go do that Mrs Shannon is the official AI learning lab
692. 1:54:56delivery lady yeah exactly Amelia's wife knows there's a Mrs Shannon she she has interfaced with her that one of my favorite things was
693. 1:55:06so so Amelio's wife was part of a contingent of Irregulars that procured me some of this sweet sweet nectar if if
694. 1:55:15you're are not a bourbon Drinker you don't know what this is if you are a bourbon Drinker you're like how the [ __ ] did you get that
695. 1:55:23well Amelio's wife was was part of a contingent that conspired to get that to me and so I went up to my boys and I said hey
696. 1:55:37boys I've I've been doing this tiktock thing and look what they sent me and my boy's response was not oh my God that's
697. 1:55:46so nice my boy's response was they know where we live so so
698. 1:56:01yes so keep coming back for for antics like that they know where we [Laughter] live oh good lord
699. 1:56:17anyway he has boys I'm learning so much I have old boys I I have uh 20 I think they're 25 now yeah 25y old twins um
700. 1:56:29okay I'm going to get out of here let's do a little uh Romper yeah and I put my credit card up on screen I'm like let me
701. 1:56:35just fill in this credit card thing and they're like uh dude you might want to go cancel that credit card it's like
702. 1:56:41[ __ ] so I had to go I had to go cancel a credit card one night cuz cuz you know I'm a genius all right all right who's in the
703. 1:56:53house tonight pavin in the house honey curls good to see you oh twins to dat too young and your API Keys exactly uh
704. 1:57:06Brandon in the house thank you peace out steo see you Joey good night good night good night James McKay peace
705. 1:57:13out who else we got Silver Fox great to see you um Danielle thank you that night sucked oh man Daisy
706. 1:57:28May Amelio's wife Joseph William Baker great to see you 25,000 likes is within so you should be tapping right now you should be
707. 1:57:39tapping [ __ ] hard this was I gave you big value tonight I don't know what it was but something I said
708. 1:57:48resonated maybe or not but you should tap anyway or go wake the grandkids and have them tap their little fingers can
709. 1:57:55go faster than yours Kyle what was the name of the script writing site Celtics Celtics is one C
710. 1:58:11LTX is one right now I'm just using I I don't even know what I'm going to use to to do the formatting I'm I'm so I'm so out of
711. 1:58:21the loop on that I don't know but Celtics was one of them um all right that's joer the mighty good to see you sir Lori K today etan uh
712. 1:58:35darling Darlene something I can't read your name taker off or something darling taker off just signed up where do I find the app which
713. 1:58:50app which app are you looking for you signed up for the salon you can there's a mighty networks app so you just go to the to the app
714. 1:59:01store or Google Play and get Mighty networks's app and then just sign in with your with your sign in but you can also just do it through
715. 1:59:10the website you don't need the app oh the salon yeah it's just um so if you signed up on on the mighty
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717. 1:59:25and just sign in uh with your thing there and then you'll have access to the salon there yeah it's great the salon's
718. 1:59:31great so so just go introduce yourself Winston great to see you have a great night everybody side hustle Mimi Dr J
719. 1:59:39great to see you deal of the day cam katkin great to see you Allan fantastic James McKay a lot of people in here tonight this is
720. 1:59:51awesome archetypal architect Daisy [Music] May Lori K Simon Says Tech what's up not
721. 2:00:06much we're just taking off I came in late Jason you were here for a bit Jason you weren't that late you're an IR
722. 2:00:12regular you're supposed to be late that's part of the charm we're at 27,000 by the way you hit 25,000 very quickly
723. 2:00:18so good on your grandkids all right Detroit Jay Holden jenu dang so many people here tonight awesome fantastic Bob tell him what he's
724. 2:00:30won uh he hasn't won anything it's it's not a game show Marge all right peace out everybody I'll see you tomorrow Friday night date
725. 2:00:41night be there go get a date bring them watch him leave bye