ChatGPT-a-thon Part 3: 9 AM – aiLL Nov 30, 2023 – The Past, Present and Future of ChatGPT

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1. 0:21all right Kevin I'm here are you ready Kevin will probably join here shortly okay I'm back Eric Sanner good
2. 0:31to see you man the 24-hour chat GP Aon continues um I am about to go into a zoom meeting to talk about chat gbt Kyle have you slept at all I
3. 0:46did I took a nap between 11: and midnight I took a tap a nap between 4:00 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. and now I'm at work
4. 0:56so I'll be I'll be turning the live on and off but I'm I'm doing a zoom call right now um and uh you're going to get
5. 1:05to hang out on the zoom call good morning Lauren what's happening welcome welcome welcome so feel free to share
6. 1:12this but I I am going to be essentially ignoring you but I will have the people that I'm talking to I'm going to move
7. 1:20the zoom window over in front of the where chat GPT is right now happy birthday to chat GPT um share the live
8. 1:26if you'd be so kind we just had a bunch of people in here and then I canceled and went out and it looks like a bunch
9. 1:32of people are joining again welcome everybody my name is Kyle Shannon this is the AI learning lab let me see if Kevin Clark is around on
10. 1:49when are ready and Tik Tok is live okay this is going to be weird I'm going
11. 2:04to move the people I'm talking to over in front of this camera but I'm going to be talking to my camera up there so it's just there's no
12. 2:14other way I could arrange it oh man chat GPT birthday it is chat gpt's birthday thank you Lauren happy birthday happy chat GPT
13. 2:28birthday oh man man alive do we have uh it's it's been newsy and I it just looks like uh stability AI just made a
14. 2:41big announcement on Twitter that they're moving to some sort of bigger subscription model that if you're going to develop on their [ __ ]
15. 2:48you have to pay them which I think is interesting interesting interesting interesting da [Music]
16. 3:06haha you love your wife I do hello again Edson how are you wow we got 70 people in here uh welcome so my name is Kyle Shannon this is the AI
17. 3:19learning lab I'm about to go live to talk about the oneyear anniversary of chat gbt on a group that I belong to
18. 3:29Cindy who's in here dang didn't get a notice oh Luna dick dang it Kyle are you addicted to live streaming it's okay if
19. 3:37you are no I'm doing a I'm doing a 24hour I'm doing a 24hour chat GPT Aon but it's okay if you are well thank you
20. 3:47I appreciate that no no I'm just doing a uh because I make wise life decisions I I'm I'm uh going live as much as I can
21. 3:56in 24 hours I've got a work to do I'm running a company so I I do have work to do all right let me see here's
22. 4:07Kevin hello Kevin Hey I'm going to put you in a little window off to the side here so I'll keep talking to you all
23. 4:16right it's fine but I'm I'm putting the zoom Window Live on the Tik Tock that's fine so we're we're getting
24. 4:25some uh some extended reach here for the content evolution new La extendo reach extendo reach and there's Cindy [ __ ] um
25. 4:34hi friends hey and what was I gonna say meeting to be here today you what oh you skipped the meeting I CH the meeting no
26. 4:42no I didn't skip I messaged somebody and said I have a very important meeting I have to be at this time could we please
27. 4:48reschedule oh that's awesome that's awesome go sounds good I'm going to I'm going to I'm GNA mute myself for
28. 5:06something hello Tim hey Tim morning morning Kevin how are you I'm good that's a good post on Forbes thank you yeah it's a I think it's an
29. 5:18interesting perspective when you think about um the whole concept of as I called it AI for every man or AI for the masses yeah that
30. 5:34way I was just talking to somebody I said the um as A's you know three rules of Robotics when you read you know the
31. 5:42novels it's always you know one robot and one human and a dilemma you know that you have in the conflict and I said
32. 5:50the conversation is simply shifting and it's the same problem but it's shifting from I to we it's not I Robot it's we robot
33. 6:00robot all right it's the uh it's the scale of augmentation interaction anyway it'll be fun got to start yeah where's
34. 6:17Mike I hear him I don't see him yeah he's coming there he is hey Mike Hey Kevin yo Mike hey Andrea hey everybody
35. 6:26hey Mike hey Cindy Hey Hey Kevin hey J hey I'm going to get going here I'm going to start recording stand by recording in progress greetings
36. 6:38everyone it is uh the birthday of Chad GPT the 30th of November and uh we're delighted to have you with us Mike uh my
37. 6:48co-host is here on the West Coast how are you I'm well I'm well how's how's everybody doing today doing great uh so I'm glad that we
38. 6:59can come together we have a special guest you know one of our uh own uh team members Kyle Shannon who is our chief
39. 7:08generative officer for Content Evolution and he's the CEO of storyvine delighted to have you with us Kyle and you have
40. 7:15some other people who are um participating via Tik Tok so explain the bridge I do so so so here's what's going
41. 7:24on I um so I have I have my Tik Tok Channel as every good 58 year old influencer should have and so um because I make good life
42. 7:37decisions I decided to do a 24-hour chat gpta Aon um to go live on Tik Tok as much as I could for 24 hours so it
43. 7:46started last night and so off to my right like right now I'm looking at the at the Tik Tok there are 75 people on
44. 7:54the Tik Tok so we've got an extended reach and S Cindy's on the Tik Tok as well so let me get rid of the the the
45. 8:00notice there so wave wave to everybody you're waving to 75 people out on AI learning lab land uh and uh so I'll be
46. 8:08talking to you here but they'll be watching you over here so if it looks like I'm looking weird occasionally it's
47. 8:14because I'm I'm managing that um but anyway no weirder than normal yeah exactly you you you have been multimodal
48. 8:22for decades what can I say exactly so this is this is just durger for Kyle Shannon so glad to have all of you um
49. 8:32Kyle why don't you just give us and and then Mike and I'll Chim in we're going to go to the larger group is give us a
50. 8:40point of view about what has happened in the last year because uh reality has changed a little bit and I value your perspective because
51. 8:52you really done a deep dive I've been looking more at this at a where's the training data sets coming
52. 8:59and the Govern issues but you've been in the trenches actually using the technology really by the way I feel like
53. 9:05I'm a pretty good prom engineer now yeah you're not you're not bad oh yeah well you're welcome and you know I I think
54. 9:12anyone who's who's good with words uh you know is at an advantage with with all this stuff um okay so for the for
55. 9:20the past year so so for me the the significance of chat GPT and the reason that you know it the reason it's worth in my opinion
56. 9:33celebrating the the the birthday of chat GPT is that I I think that it actually marks the inflection point of
57. 9:41um of a shift from machine learning and AI uh for researchers and scientists to you know generative AI being available
58. 9:51to the rest of us basically to to business and it's a very similar shift that the the worldwide we web did to the
59. 9:59internet where the internet had been around for decades uh and then all of a sudden the worldwide web comes along and
60. 10:05it makes it simple enough to just you know click click on a hyperlink and you know anyone can make a website and it
61. 10:11democratized that powerful tool so chat GPT for me marks that inflection point and I find it remarkable that a year
62. 10:21into chat GPT having this you know incredibly large lead that no real competitors have showed up yet you've got um anthropics
63. 10:34Claude is close but it's kind of like a little bit better than chat GPT 3.5 um you've got Google threatening to
64. 10:42release Gemini which they haven't but their Bard thing is almost as good as chat GPT 3.5 um there there are eight or nine
65. 10:51major players that have some version Amazon just announced Q which is apparently almost as good as chat GPT 3.
66. 10:59.5 grock is apparently launching this week I wouldn't be surprised if Elon Musk launches it today um just to mess
67. 11:07with Sam Alman but we'll see um but apparently it's almost as good as uh chat GPT 3.5 so so one thing I find
68. 11:15astounding is that they still have this this seemingly insurmountable lead someone will catch them at some point so
69. 11:21then they have all this and then you know a week ago out of nowhere um this company that's flying so high
70. 11:29just has absolute flipping chaos they fire Sam mman the CEO and then they try to unire him and then they bring in you
71. 11:39know uh uh EMT Shear um to to be the the new CEO and and now Sam's going to go to Mig there was all that drama that
72. 11:49happened it now looks like they've kind of wred the ship and open AI is going to survive I think it was quite clear that
73. 11:56open AI would not have survived survived that transition and it would have become a wholly-owned Microsoft effort basically um so so they
74. 12:08figured out a way to salvage the open AI with the nonprofit Mission and the profit Mission um which is fascinating um so so that that's just
75. 12:19just on sort of the the the business like the the the tech business side of things it's just fascinating Dynamics
76. 12:27all around then on the what the tool actually is side um the capability of chat GPT from when it launched a year ago so if you go to
77. 12:38chat GPT right now if you go to chat. open.com and put it in chat GPT 3.5 mode that's essentially the chat GPT that
78. 12:48launched last year and if you've got access to chat GPT 4 mode comparing what chat GPT 4 can do to what chat GPT 3.5 can do they're just
79. 12:59like night and day the quality of what it generates is different um it can do Advanced Data analysis it can read
80. 13:07images it can see images it can create images with dolly3 um the the mobile application of chat GPT you can put it
81. 13:17in voice mode so you can actually now have a conversation with chat GPT and then they also just launched these things called
82. 13:25gpts which I think is brilliant branding by the way that didn't call them Bots they called them gpts so they're going
83. 13:31to own that term like Xerox owns copers and Kleenex owns tissues um they're going to own GPT um and what those are is basically
84. 13:41the democratization of very sophisticated application development where anyone can make uh a GPT it sort
85. 13:49of goes beyond no code into the realm of you can just talk in English what you want your application to do and it will
86. 13:57do all the prompting for you you and it will build this thing for you and you can share those gpts with other people
87. 14:04um and at some point here shortly they're going to be launching a GPT store which is likely the equivalent of
88. 14:11the Apple App Store and lots and lots of businesses were built on the Apple App Store um so I I think this idea of the
89. 14:19democratization the sort of um casualization of application development is is probably one of the bigger things
90. 14:28that happened in chat GPT in the past year and it's like 3 weeks old right so still very early still very janky um but
91. 14:37but that's what's been going on and just the the other thing that that I'm I guess taking it down to the human
92. 14:43level one of the things that I'm seeing on my on my Tik Tok Channel um is there's a there's a a Vibrant Community
93. 14:53forming around this idea of generative Ai and what I'm seeing consistently are people who were retired kind of
94. 15:06unretires software Engineers turning into artists I there there's I just see um for the people that are embracing
95. 15:14this technology it's it's augmenting who they are and what they enjoy in unexpected ways and there's kind of a
96. 15:22joy happening for people that I'm working with and interacting with on a reg basis as they're embracing this thing
97. 15:32it's just like things are coming to life for them and and that I find I I think that's unexpected for me because I I
98. 15:40think where my head was was these tools are going to you know ruin people's lives and and you know they're going to lose their jobs
99. 15:50and it's going to disrupt everything and there's like there's a lot of press about the negative impact of this but
100. 15:56there's this subtle reinvention thing happening where I think there's there's so much opportunity for people to to
101. 16:02reinvent themselves their businesses things like that that that there's a I don't know there's there's a there's an
102. 16:08energy to this that I haven't experienced since the mid 90s with the early days of the worldwide web so with
103. 16:13that I'll shut up okay well Kyle that was a that was really good U couple of observations back to gpts for for a moment we were
104. 16:25working um in the cont Evolution uh collab on you know developing capabilities and the uh it would take you know a week
105. 16:41or so maybe a couple of weeks and we would you know understand what we want to do and we'd use zapier we'd use a
106. 16:47Google form and we would kind of automate a process and so on and so forth um and it was you know was pretty
107. 16:54cool what we were doing but like you said all the things that we were doing there that were already kind of amazing
108. 17:02because you were using gen of AI can manifest now in like 10 minutes yeah right uh well and and can manifest
109. 17:11in 10 minutes in in an even more powerful way so one of the things we were trying to do in collab was use the
110. 17:18data that content Evolution had produced as a knowledge base and in order to do that we we had to set up Lang chain and
111. 17:25things like that and we had an outside technical consultant helping is trying to set that up well now you can just do
112. 17:31that in one of these gpts so not only can you produce this app that does amazing things you can produce this app
113. 17:37that is trained on your data right which is one of the things people have asked me about for the past year if they don't
114. 17:43know about chat GPT almost always the first thing they ask me is well can I put my data in there it's the natural
115. 17:50instinct is I want this thing to understand who I am or you know what I'm about and and that's now just instant
116. 17:55and it's a part of it and and and free so well 20 bucks a month the the the pace of change that we were experiencing you
117. 18:06know from pre- internet by internet 50 years old next year right so that's an interesting you know thing to yeah
118. 18:15notice um and take note of so 50 years there web manifests and it becomes more accessible to people so first thank you
119. 18:26vincer then thank you Tim burners Le everybody else who contributed Y and that's 30 years ago you know that was a
120. 18:33lot of log rithmic right um change this really does live up to the phrase exponential doesn't it yeah I think it does and I think it
121. 18:46um I I was talking about this on the live last night one of the things that feels like it's the the biggest shift to
122. 18:53me is that how we've used computers essentially since all all of us have been alive is we have to we have been trained by technologists
123. 19:07that we have to change how we interact with computers based on how they want to interact right if we want to make a
124. 19:14computer do what we want it to do we have to learn the computer language that that computer understands and then we
125. 19:21have to talk in this very particular way and we have to think about logic like if someone does this then what happens well
126. 19:29then that happens or then that happens and and we've had to interact with computers in in a in a in a way that
127. 19:36we've had to adapt to them and what generative AI does is flips that completely around and and now we can
128. 19:43just say hey computer I want you to do this and it does it right now yeah but can I just inter yeah please there
129. 19:53something was said early by Kevin that's I think important how you actually create or write a prompt m is a language question in my mind it
130. 20:07is because you just said you know you can just State you know a question which is basically true but to get the maximum
131. 20:16out of your ai ai experience you really have to ask it in a way that it understands it and I just wanted to
132. 20:25interject that one particular point because what what Kevin talked about and made that term as a prompt engineer
133. 20:32that's actually become a whole new uh category for uh a career for people yep it absolutely has we we are
134. 20:42we are quickly moving though there are hints of what's coming in chat GPT 4 right now so if you use its data
135. 20:50analysis tool code interpreter um you basically just give it a goal and then it starts writing and executing it own
136. 20:58python code and checking its results and if it doesn't get a good result it tries again and it's sort of talking to you
137. 21:04the whole way through it so it's prompting itself um on on your behalf and so so I think there's sort of two
138. 21:11modes here I think right now the current tools require prompt engineering to get the most out of them I absolutely agree
139. 21:17with that um I think if you want to be in development in software development you this will still be a key skill
140. 21:24moving forward but I think for the for the masses for the rest of us these tools are going to get increasingly
141. 21:30autonomous where we just give them goals and they will go out and figure out how to do all the prompting on their own
142. 21:35absolutely yeah absolutely okay Mike jump in yeah I as Tim sparked this thought I was thinking you know that as
143. 21:45Loosely as the term writer or part of my job is writing um what struck me is with the first couple hours I played with four is
144. 21:53I'm not a writer anymore I I used to think that was cool important part of me um with tools like this I'm an editor yeah right you're a
145. 22:03refining editor this is very much I got to go back because it's what I know you know you would often be working with
146. 22:10multiple editors as a kid journalist right but there was usually one or two who weren't just this is how you
147. 22:18structure The Story You're missing this fact it would be that's nice you're still too passive in this section mhm
148. 22:25right and so it's actually going to turn is that said I think the task of writing outside of truly original
149. 22:31fiction um and original reporting I guess um we're editors now and I think that's Tim what you were talking about
150. 22:40is not it's I don't have to learn a specific um set of constructed things like I did when I was trying to figure
151. 22:47out basic programming sure with these very narrow Concepts but I do have to have enough insight and intelligence to
152. 22:55say that's close that's not EX actly my voice but I'm more concerned about change these two things and add this in
153. 23:02so again it's it's an iterative process yeah I think that's Kyle I think what where a lot of people are still kind of
154. 23:09flx was oh my God it responded back to me in natural language like a human being and I think that was the first
155. 23:16eight months yeah right was every like oh wow okay I can generate and this is where I was along for the last several
156. 23:22months I've been okay what's the implication for this for marketing or for sales it's like oh my God they're
157. 23:28just G it's going to get worse or better they're just going to be doing it faster [ __ ] excuse my language faster all the
158. 23:34time yeah right and that's I'm still kind of stuck there right because I'm not sure what Mark benof thinks Einstein
159. 23:42is what did he call it recently not the safe did he call it the safest no he didn't it was something and you know as
160. 23:50far as I know it's been a year and a half two years since I talked to him I don't know how many people in the you
161. 23:55know Salesforce marketing Cloud customer based are actively using Einstein on a daily basis yeah I don't I yeah I don't
162. 24:03I don't know and it's and it's you know the right now our primary primary interaction with these tools is is with
163. 24:12text and now there's sort of going multimodal they're not really doing video yet but they are doing voice so
164. 24:18you can now have a conversation with chat gbt and and haen just released their their new Avatar tool where you
165. 24:25can upload three minutes of video of yourself and it turns it into an avatar that synthesized your voice and the
166. 24:31video that you put up there so you can now just type you know type in a script and it will be you talking on video and
167. 24:38and so the distance between that and being able to interact with that Avatar in real time is it we're you know we're
168. 24:46within months of that bizarre interaction that you're having just as chat GPT feeling like a remote employee
169. 24:55or like a really well educated intern that that you're interacting with remotely it it's going to shift very
170. 25:01very quickly to you're going to be interacting with these things in real time that that are just you know and I
171. 25:07think you know you I don't if everybody saw the link that uh Kevin sent out last week uh uh uh my former employer one of
172. 25:17their Keynotes about Ai and a couple others and it struck me as we talk about this iterative process and now we have
173. 25:24to be editors as we're using these tools I think pretty much in any role we have where do we see I the first bottleneck I see is
174. 25:34management and not because they're scared about losing their job it's like I'm going to be generating so much stuff
175. 25:40so quickly and it's going to be pretty good yep if we are we now managers are going to have to come up with their own
176. 25:47chat gpts you know to say okay edit it with this cap the my approach to editing or reviewing these doc yeah yeah proc
177. 25:54process it for me yeah process is going to kill it even more uh uh important than that I just had a conversation with a financial
178. 26:05institution recently and uh Kyle I have kind of an open invitation to you know give them a briefing right in the first quarter I'm
179. 26:14going to invite you great but they haven't touched generative AI because of the finra and other regulations around their computer
180. 26:25systems and they have no clue what's going on um you know they they can't bring anything that they do at home you
181. 26:34know to to work and it's kind of like you guys are in trouble right uh and what it turns out is I did some quiet inquiries the
182. 26:45industry is in trouble yeah right um because there is you know no way for them to do an implementation inside all right and feel
183. 26:57confident you know relative to their Securities and Exchange Commission their finra all the regul they're highly
184. 27:03regulated right and so they put a force field around this and say you can't use this technology right oops that's a
185. 27:11problem yeah um Cindy I uh brought you bringing you into the conversation acknowledge that Cindy is another uh chief officer she is our
186. 27:24chief media officer for Content Evolution and she is is a faithful uh participant in Kyle's generative sessions in collab Cindy join us so I
187. 27:36have three quick things I have to say before I get to my point based on things that were just said first of all Mike
188. 27:42I'm a writer too and in this process I haven't considered myself an editor and instead I've been considering myself a
189. 27:50curator so I say that as a distinction because I'm not exclusive and I don't have loyalty to one Ai and I have to
190. 28:00curate across all of the different AI to determine what's the best service for what I'm trying to make happen number
191. 28:09one and then when it comes I'm not really editing so much yet at this point a little I but honestly it's more it's
192. 28:17it's like I'm working with an artist and I say yes last time we had a conversation we talked about this whole thing being having more blue
193. 28:28good job but what I really meant was more ocean blue and so as also a trained artist I really see what I'm doing as I'm
194. 28:39curating the artist that I'm partnering with which is whichever AI so I just want to throw that out partnering I get
195. 28:47I think the one thing because words matter um is with the notion of being a curator there's a certain distance
196. 28:57you're putting between yourself and the output all right sometimes sometimes depends on how you collaborate hear me out um and I think
197. 29:07this is why you know um Clarity and transparency um I still haven't come up with what I want to put on my substack
198. 29:17about what I'm using AI which so far most the posts I put up there were all me yeah right I didn't you know the
199. 29:24early version was kind of clever for doing an outline I don't consider that that's anybody can do an outline it did
200. 29:30a good job give me give me right but what I'm saying with the sense of when you say curator you are putting a
201. 29:35certain distance between the I I just collected this stuff and put it out there or you know my favorite I'm just
202. 29:41asking questions here's the question um and I think and I'm not saying putting it down so much I think we need to think
203. 29:48about that right because that notion of curation can free us to a degree to say uh geez it was kind a cool output um
204. 29:58I was just curating this and I this get down to that point that point identifying transparency identify works
205. 30:06I do I think it's your background and my background so as somebody trained in the creative field and someone who's done a
206. 30:12lot of curation in my life I think it involves way more collaboration than you imagine and I don't think there's any
207. 30:18curator at any space anywhere who would say they aren't responsible for the output so I would say it's far more
208. 30:26collaborative than editing to me feels like I'm doing it by myself and I actually don't feel like I'm doing it by
209. 30:32myself collaborative you know absolutely and I got to I'll rethink this because editing isn't right because it was in my
210. 30:40experience when I was working with an editor or another reporter who had more experience than I did it was a
211. 30:46collaborative process and it was a personal decision at which point did I say you know Tim really helped me out
212. 30:52with that 10-minute conversation about X and Y before I put this together jeez hey Tim you want a you know want a
213. 31:00cooby line on this you know or you just want a contributor line at the bottom right that I'm old school language there
214. 31:06apologies but that's and this is where I think we have to I think it is important what we put on our things that we put
215. 31:12out there where we use the tool not just hey I used I used some of this and some of that right a little more detail right
216. 31:19because you can see that in the way we as humans want to see an attestation of the Providence of something right you've
217. 31:25seen if you look at the way bios now are on most Publications they're way more expansive than they used to be right and there's
218. 31:33way more information in there about what this reporter at this place at the what New York Times has been is doing and has
219. 31:40been doing so I I've done no I just want I think you're right we have to come there's something there I think overall yeah we're
220. 31:50curating wrent large when we put our name on it then I think we have to say hm what do we what will our language be
221. 31:57yeah I so a couple other things just I just wanted to say Kevin to your point about the financial in 2027 I with the
222. 32:06applied fatures lab and the threat casting Lab at ASU and um we put out for um the Secret Service a threet casting
223. 32:14report on the future of um uh digital Financial crimes and what happens when we no longer have paper currency and the
224. 32:25alignment with everything you just said I just thought instantly oh my God I got to share that report with this group because it's like a
225. 32:33foreshadowing in not really because we all knew this but you know it's great to sort of see it's like yep um and then I want to get to the
226. 32:43point of why I even wanted a question which was to share with those who aren't as familiar with how GPT in particular
227. 32:52is working and how you can make your own gpts right now um I just I wanted to emphasize that even more especially for
228. 33:01the CE folks who are trying to figure out how to you know efficiency in business all the way around if you have
229. 33:08not built yourself a a GPT for your company which if you're not in four already please go get on the wait list
230. 33:17they're going to open it again but get yourself on the list it's closed right now because of the chaos what was it
231. 33:23what was it again what chat GPT get over open AI get over get yourself on the list so that when they're
232. 33:31starting to issue the $20 a month chat yeah yeah because it's closed right now it's closed but just get on the waight
233. 33:39list so here's I just want to express and this is why you guys got to go file file sorry follow Kyle all the time
234. 33:49so because he's teaching on these nightly Tik toks and it has twice a month salons how to do all these things
235. 33:57so you don't have to go figure this out there's a giant community that has come together just come meet up with all of
236. 34:03us we're already doing all this you don't have to figure this out on your own here's what I wanted to say though for everyone in
237. 34:10C we don't know how this is going to go with building your own GTS so I cannot encourage everyone enough if this ends
238. 34:18up going like the App Store you want your name now yep get over there and build your yourself a GPT as soon as you
239. 34:29gain access with your business name so as an example I've built about 10 gpts to this point and I'm training them with
240. 34:37my own content uh a couple of them are public I I've shared them out and I can share them out further you can go and play with my
241. 34:45gpts they are the applied futurists and the threat casting analyst and they're being loaded with my reports my books my
242. 34:56content I'm training them I'm working with them to get them to work with me first but will that ever be out in the
243. 35:02public to everyone to go and use mine I don't know but am I going to be ready if that does happen Hells to the yes y so I
244. 35:13really really want to impress upon this entire Community go get your name build a GPT so you own it that's number one
245. 35:22and then second Kyle talks about this a lot we're not going to have time to get into it today but if you're not in GPT
246. 35:29and once you get in there make yourself a note today when you gain access one of the first things after you just play in
247. 35:39basic get into the custom instructions go watch a video or ask chat itself how do I use custom instructions actually
248. 35:48it'll just tell you how to do it there's a sidebar you can fill why is that so important because you can load it with
249. 35:56the things that that benefit your business quick example when you go to a my applied futurist GPT it's focused on
250. 36:04future casting so if you try to ask it something about dystopian Futures it'll go oh come on this topas for third
251. 36:14graders that's easy we're GNA stay focused on protopia but but if you're really into like threat Futures here's a link to the
252. 36:27threat casting book y go get more for yourself so I'm not losing those potential people I'm just sending to
253. 36:35another my business so I just and and I do that throughout so my I have custom instructions and then I have back end on
254. 36:43my gpts that are deeper that do things like if somebody asks a question I make sure they always reference me my team my
255. 36:54partners as the experts as the go go to go to their books go to their websites so it's loading completely so that if this ever does go super
256. 37:05public we're the leaders Y in this yep and that's what I wanted to express let let me just jump in really quick someone
257. 37:13on Tik Tok asked where do I get on the the wait list so if you go to chat. open.com that's chat GPT that's the
258. 37:20official chat gbt website just go there and start playing and just sign up for the wait list there for for access to
259. 37:26GPT chat GPT plus is what you want want to get on the weit list for so yeah that that's that's awesome Cindy I I mean I
260. 37:34would agree and you know I think that creating these gpts I think using it as a marketing tool is really really
261. 37:42brilliant because you know there there's a lot of talk always in marketing about deliver value first right deliver value
262. 37:50first and then sell your stuff after with these gpts you can absolutely do that you can put into your potential
263. 37:56customers hands a tool that they can interact with and ask questions of and and you know kick ideas around future
264. 38:03casting with that tool and then you know the ability to just say now if you want to talk more reach out to me I I think
265. 38:10that's brilliant and and I think even if this even if these gpts don't end up going mainstream and it doesn't become
266. 38:18the App Store just the process of experiencing what it's like to be able to informally create an incredibly powerful
267. 38:28application is just it's just a different experience than you know I'm not a programmer but I know enough about
268. 38:35programming to appreciate what it takes to make even a mediocre application right and and with this tool you can
269. 38:44essentially just talk into existence you know a deeply powerful tool that is specialized to the thing that you want
270. 38:51to talk about so yeah fully fully uh reinforce or you were saying Sydney fantastic so I'm uh Doug hullen has been with us and Doug I'll uh
271. 39:05apologize you had a pretty interesting panel yourself yesterday that I was unable to attend I hope there's a
272. 39:11playback for it yeah yeah there will be it was on um AI human hallucination and AI hallucination and we had Dr Harvey
273. 39:21Castro who is a medical doctor and written books on AI and medicine and uh and then some um doctors of
274. 39:29Neuroscience um please don't hallucinate today be lucd for us today all right I'm getting old and confused I
275. 39:39thought that was what was happening today so I love to see the recording yeah yeah and I I'll send it out once
276. 39:46once that's available but uh yeah we it was a great talk and um you know just exploring what Hallucination is and you
277. 39:54know both from a human perspective um in fact I put it to the chat um I was also on another call um talking about media
278. 40:01and AI you know and there was a a person from the BBC looking at Ai and H you know a using AI um for the news reporting and there's a media
279. 40:12organization that uh has put out a a 10-step guide on integrating AI um into you know how should media people and
280. 40:21authors think about how to use uh AI U as a tool right and and this challenge of hallucination um you know and uh you
281. 40:31know but this this ability to just create a vast amount of content and um I you know I I one of my favorite books is
282. 40:39uh the information a history a theory of flood by James Glick and you know all this vast information out there and he
283. 40:47wrote this about 10 years ago and now there's you know what we thought was Big 10 years ago you know it's just just
284. 40:54amazing and though the question is is how can we have accurate data right act accurate actual accurate information um
285. 41:02and this will be the challenge and you know like the different uh you know like large language models like Claude 2.1
286. 41:09came out and they said there there's twice as good at reducing hallucinations and getting actual information right um
287. 41:17you know so this is this race to the like how do you make sure that what you're creating is is factual is good
288. 41:24information um Dave C um and I'll put the link in there too he has a company um that tries that has an and going back
289. 41:32to this agent um where it acts as a researcher and it gives some really good information so like like for instance
290. 41:39you know like looking at the term hallucination um in 2023 um Boston uh or cambrid dictionary um is the AI Hallucination is actually
291. 41:51hallucination the word of the year in 2023 and so I asked Google bar um well when did AI hallucination become
292. 41:59something and uh you know they said well it was first coined in 2022 but then I used Dave's tool and it was actually coined in
293. 42:092002 um by a research and uh and I had done I tried to look at it and and do so and I don't know if you use barard but
294. 42:16what you can do is click on it and say okay tell me the things that you think are more factual and less factual and
295. 42:21you get green if it thinks it's more factual you know more more PR precise and uh you know it was green saying it
296. 42:28it was coined in in 2022 but actually it was coined in 2002 yeah yeah this is going to be an issue I'll tell you just
297. 42:35a f a funny thing um Miriam Webster's word of the year is authentic um so so if if one of them is uh is hallucination and the other one is
298. 42:47authentic there's uh there's something there I think authenticity is going to be big moving forward I'm going I if I
299. 42:53can just tell it I'm wondering how much this matters because because the the here's a here's a joke that I heard you know the Obama
300. 43:01and and and Trump get into a foot race and it's going to be you know and Trump is talking about how great it's going to
301. 43:08be and how he's going to you know do so well and then they have the foot race and you know what happens obviously and
302. 43:15and so uh OB uh Trump posts afterwards he said man this was a great race I came in second and Obama came in next to last
303. 43:26it's all about shaping The Narrative right well that but both of those are true statements right yeah so so the
304. 43:33idea of when when we're talking about truth and and what is real and what is is is hallucination it so much depends
305. 43:41on point of view and I I don't subscribe to the information overload and all this kind of stuff I subscribe to it matters
306. 43:49in the context of whatever your context is and that that you know if you if you want to protect the US certain things
307. 43:56matter in certain ways if you want to protect China certain things matter in certain ways um or don't etc etc and and
308. 44:03it's very we we get hung up on what is what is true and real and not real it doesn't matter so much yeah critical
309. 44:13thinking is absolutely critical you know that that's probably the number one thing you need to teach them you think that's a totaly right
310. 44:23there so the um you know we're I'm interested uh in your perspective Doug about um how how is the infrastructure part
311. 44:41helping or hurting in terms of access right um because if we Tim uh bearon who was with us earlier on the call he's still on but uh wrote
312. 44:56something about Ai and know you know being very helpful in in terms of making us you know augmented and more
313. 45:06superhuman but only works if you're connected it only works if you have access right so where are we right now
314. 45:13you're you're kind of a you know infrastructure yeah the good news is there in 2022 we reached five billion
315. 45:20people that had a smartphone wow and like in 2002 we had a billion people that had just a cell phone so um you
316. 45:28know we we reached that and like I have this blog going is when do we reach a billion of something so next year I
317. 45:34think a billion people will using AI at least 30 minutes a day and saving at least 30 minutes a day you know that
318. 45:41that they can say get an agent to say I want to do X and you do that and I come back and I fact check you I critical you
319. 45:48know but it's it's it gives me value of at least 30 minutes but if I'm looking at the population in general is it fair
320. 45:56to say that three fifths of the people on the planet have access and two fifths are you know disenfranchised right now
321. 46:05um well since five million PE billion people have a smartphone uh you know the ability to have ai um like Pi for instance is free
322. 46:14um you know and it's it's a voice activated right now the question five five billion out of what 8.5 eight
323. 46:22billion actually fun fact is in in November of 20 22 we reached 8 billion people on the planet at the same time uh
324. 46:30generative AI chat GPT was launched okay in the month so so my my fraction is slightly off but you know there are
325. 46:41people you know take out a billion take out a billion kids who were under the age of whatever three or five you know
326. 46:48say that's a billion and and then that that that's a huge percentage that's like five five out of out of seven
327. 46:56now there gets to be a big percentage of of people who have access yeah well a billion people don't have access to
328. 47:02electricity in fact more people have a a cell phone than they do have electricity yeah I'm just pointing out
329. 47:10that you know the uh you know talking about you know gaps this you know because it's exponential we we just said
330. 47:18this is exponential technology the ability to leave a percentage of humanity in the dust of okay uh is is
331. 47:28problematic okay um you know we're we're we're we should be talking uh about you know some of this uh in the human rights
332. 47:38territory all right as opposed to just you know it would be interesting if we could eventually get get to them right
333. 47:45because people who are augmented versus those who aren't okay is going to be a very bright dividing line going forward
334. 47:53but I I'll stay on the positive side all right the purposes of birthday [Laughter] celebration okay um but Kevin can I just
335. 48:04add to that come it's it's not just that people uh that we're leaving them dust because they don't have the stuff
336. 48:11because many of the people who don't have it still know about it and are aspirational and will eventually get it
337. 48:17the the interesting problem is that people are choosing to be LIF left in the dust they're choosing to be
338. 48:24non-enhanced and they're thinking that somehow it's better to be an unenhanced human than to be an enhanced human and I
339. 48:32I see these is you know I see this as a positive growth and that this is It's Evolution and there's nothing we can do
340. 48:39about it because we're all going to be that way eventually it's a new body part but but a lot of people don't see it
341. 48:45that way and that to me is a bigger issue but that's that's Mark that's that's every every technological
342. 48:51advancement in the history of man is is met with the exact same response which is fear and trep trepidation and
343. 48:59resistance you know we we don't like change and it this is just another one of those but this one's more intense
344. 49:06because the capability of it is is so profound and the speed that it's moving is it's it's not like anything I've ever
345. 49:13seen so um so I think the the resistance is normal um but but the uh for those people resisting the the amount of uh
346. 49:23sort of impact it's going to have on them very quickly I think is if you wanted to be a l though all right there
347. 49:29was a there was actually a factory to go you know mess up right you know take an axe to yeah uh there is no axe all right
348. 49:38to take to this Tech right there there's no um you know Central Point you know to do anything and the government will regulate
349. 49:49it totally but my perspective I totally agree with with with Kyle just said but what what's happening is that because
350. 49:57this is moving so fast faster than anything ever has the it's needs to get to the young people earlier and sooner
351. 50:05and that's that's the barrier that I see as happening uh being prevented by often adults by by schools by
352. 50:15families by cultures by all these kinds of things and so I really want to see how we can do that and and I'm open to
353. 50:22suggest I think that would be a great project for all of us to say how do we provide how do we create things or or is
354. 50:29there something that we can create that that would really make kids say hell yes I want to do this and I don't know of
355. 50:37any but there may be uh that there's you know some site you can go on and suddenly you're a magician suddenly
356. 50:43you're 100 times more powerful uh that's not you know that's specifically geared to to you um I don't know if we could do
357. 50:51that but that'd be great okay so I'm going to invite uh I see a comment here from Ala Roy ala you want to join us for
358. 51:01a second about your perspective on AI [Music] hallucination you're there maybe you're not can you hear me I can hear you okay great
359. 51:15um yeah I I think it's just such a interesting time in in many ways as you're discuss discussing this and I put
360. 51:24a question for this team as well um because there seems to be just this real um urgency for adoption um I feel that
361. 51:35you know a group of people are almost working for like um as a chat GPT or open AI agents like oh it's the best
362. 51:44thing you know you must adopt it I think it's great to play with I think it's wonderful to use and you know but I think it's
363. 51:51also important for us to bring as someone else mentioned earlier the critical thinking like looking at it
364. 52:01looking at the the game behind the game and the layers behind it to understand what's happening just like you would do
365. 52:08with any marketing machine right so I think of Chad gpt's writing I think Mike or somebody was talking about you know
366. 52:15editor or someone was talking about being a curator as being a really you know generating writing that's
367. 52:25the the marketing speak the pr speak that we see which means you have to really see what is real out of it what
368. 52:33is useful out of it what makes sense in here and the term AI hallucination I offered an article it's a little older but it's really
369. 52:43interesting I think you should just take a read on it is that um I was I I don't think that we should have allowed the term AI hallucination
370. 52:55to be used because I think it legitimizes the problems that are underlying in this technology um calling
371. 53:05it hallucination gives it some sort of a u you know it sounds uh cool it gets it legitimacy of some sort uh whereas it's really
372. 53:18uh incorrect they are errors that that's a problem you know it's like calling someone's lies uh politician talk you
373. 53:26know someone else gave an example of oh that's political talk but they're lies you know lies are to be called lies um
374. 53:33so I think that's that was my kind of comment on on hallucination I think will tell you that you know becomes mimetic right is that you
375. 53:45simply have to launch a sufficiently competitive meme to replace it um I've got one you're not going to you're not
376. 53:53going to succeed in in outlawing language right it doesn't work right there um you can certainly raise your you know
377. 54:02you can certainly raise your hand I see um Andrea Goldberg has some uh thoughts that she wants to share Andrea join us
378. 54:12let let me just jump in let me just let me just jump in for a quick Andre let me just jump in for a quick sec so the the
379. 54:19the potential um counter to hallucinations my nickname for chat GPT is mansplain as a service uh it will confidently answer you even if it's
380. 54:28wrong so you're you're welcome so thanks for joining us yes please so one of my concerns is that you know the ne those of us who are First
381. 54:40Learning chat TP learned the basics so like if we're marketeers we learned how to write marketing plans wearn learned
382. 54:47how to do the things and now we have the ability when we get something back from cha GPT to say this is garbage curate
383. 54:55edit whatever term you want to use my my biggest concern is to the extent the next generation of workers comes in and
384. 55:01everything's done for them you just speak are they going to have the ability to fully understand what they're getting
385. 55:09back and what's quality and and what's not quality and I saw this personally when we first started you know
386. 55:17automating things and people started you know writing you know having things done for them and I saw our analysts
387. 55:23misinterpret data because they didn't realize the program had lost 90% of the cases or you know looked at the wrong
388. 55:30cohort and they they took it and I ran with it I just I think it's important I don't want to say we shouldn't um use
389. 55:38the technology but I think we have to think about what skill sets do we want to make sure that we don't lose along
390. 55:46the way say you met people mention critical thinking but I I I I what enables you to do the critical thinking
391. 55:53is kind of experience doing some of these basic um executions so I wanted to you know bring that up if you if you do
392. 56:01it uh and use the technology often enough and are met and the kpis are telling me you know that you're failing
393. 56:10okay it doesn't work right you're going to lose your job right and there's going to be a consequence all right to you
394. 56:17know using the technology poorly as opposed to enabling something that's spectacular Mike you know this is your
395. 56:24territory all right you were you know in this world all right and you can't be a good analyst or a good you know
396. 56:34marketing person using this Tech if you're using it all right in an unsophisticated way you're you're just
397. 56:40going to you're going to crash and burn I AG well I I I see Andre's Point Andre I agree with you I think here again what
398. 56:48kept struck me was you know what's going to protect that new worker or what's going to help that new worker get that
399. 56:55experience getting his or her ass kicked by their boss with that output yep right that's how and now back to this thing
400. 57:04the more I think about this is really interesting managers who as we I think many of us have experienced in the last 10 or 15 years
401. 57:15have moved from let's face it more direct handson and not because of the pandemic this was happening before that
402. 57:23I don't need to talk to Andrea that much because I have this console over here that has all these kpis and metrics that
403. 57:32we have with with Andrea so I can just look at that hey everything's great something's a little bit yellow I guess
404. 57:38I better talk to her this week right with the ability to create and generate so much so fast this is going to actually I think
405. 57:48take management back to what they were doing more in the you know when I started in the 70s ' 80s and '90s and in
406. 57:55that point which was I'm gonna have to actually talk to Andrew to make sure she understands exactly what that output did
407. 58:02yep and it's going to be and it's going to be no screens Andrea I want you to take your phone and turn it upside down
408. 58:07on the desk we're put both of our phones in the middle of the desk and we're going to talk because that's how it's no
409. 58:13matter what you know that's still in the end I have to feel as your manager I have to feel like hey it's cool she
410. 58:20didn't know this tool that much and she's new in this industry but boy everything is [ __ ] looking pretty good
411. 58:27great more like that oh wait I you misinterpreted your input your prop showed a misunderstanding of what that the new version of the product
412. 58:37actually does let's talk about that a little bit more yeah right actually it's G to more add more time I think this is
413. 58:44something I think you heard steuart nois I a few months ago said no is it does stuff fast but it's actually taking me
414. 58:50longer because I got a vet to try to figure out and triangulate where did this information come from where that
415. 58:57yeah I'll be I agree with you and the car L is when social media first came and people were assigning 25 year olds
416. 59:03to to do all the social media all the marketing All The Branding for their you know their company and they discovered
417. 59:11those 25 year olds didn't understand their brands and didn't understand how to phrase things and it was a disaster
418. 59:18they understood the technology but they didn't have the basic understanding of marketing communic and they got into some embarrassing
419. 59:27situations so I think we have to make sure that people understand the broader concept here that to your point Mike
420. 59:35it's going to create a different type of management well I'll so let me throw in a counter to let me throw in a counter
421. 59:40to this Andrea which is I my my nickname for for one of the things going on right now is Revenge of the Gen xers which is
422. 59:49um I like I feel like if I were hiring someone right now I would I would rather hire someone like yourself someone
423. 59:56that's got 20 or 30 years experience or someone like Mike that has enough World experience and business experience that
424. 1:00:03even if you don't have the skills with AI you're going to have the skills to be able to look at the output of AI and say
425. 1:00:09oh that's good that's bad and you're going to be able to know it like that so I think that there's a superpower for
426. 1:00:14older workers that might even be Reinventing themselves or stepping back into the workforce that that you know
427. 1:00:22they might not be experienced on the skills side but that experience I think is going to be incredibly
428. 1:00:28valuable and I would add to that if if I may that the the making those pairings of somebody like that with somebody
429. 1:00:37young um and facilitating those pairings is a is a huge thing just like uh you know Jack Welch did a GE when he said we
430. 1:00:45need we that the young people will mentor and executive but but what what I'm interested in Andrea is is your
431. 1:00:53assumption that we did this well before that we were critical thinkers before and and it isn't true it isn't true some
432. 1:01:01of us understand some things in some ways where there's no consensus about how we understand things obviously we'd
433. 1:01:07all be one thing but and so I I think it's much more important to to experiment and there'll be a lot of
434. 1:01:14upheaval as people don't do the same understand things in the way they did in the past and do the same things they way
435. 1:01:21but I think it's going to come out as just as Kevin says in the wash in terms of do does it work do people accept this
436. 1:01:28stuff who accepts it who are who at the level you know it doesn't matter whether I don't think somebody's critically
437. 1:01:36thinking in my in my definition of it um if if it was all working in their world and doing this kind of stuff it doesn't
438. 1:01:46matter that my I taught my son I tried to teach my son look people in the eye when you meet them right and that's a
439. 1:01:54big part of life and he wouldn't do it he still doesn't do it he he he looks people at the screen and so that but but
440. 1:02:01that matter okay they uh add on to uh uh Mac right uh who has uh joined us uh M you have a question not really a
441. 1:02:14question but a comment and follow up on take a system Dynamic thinking approach to this we have a generation of EXA
442. 1:02:25who are not seeing upline growth so they have to make their numbers by cutting expenses and frequently it is the more
443. 1:02:33more senior and higher paid employee that gets cut yep so in the situations that we're talking about that manager
444. 1:02:44that is meant to be coach and help make sure the information is correct they're not going to exist and then that problem gets set up
445. 1:02:56where you have very inexpensive and perhaps younger talent that can't differentiate between what is accurate and what is
446. 1:03:08competent and I think that's the scenario we are setting up and we're going to have to watch it carefully okay very
447. 1:03:19good all right um we're coming up to the top of the hour so um G to ask uh Mike uh do you have any concluding comments
448. 1:03:28and then I'm going to move it to uh Kyle to uh give us his final thoughts no what a what a great discussion and thanks to
449. 1:03:36everybody on Kyle's Tik Tok Channel and everybody else who joined um you know the more as we went through that that is
450. 1:03:43something I think I'm going to be thinking a little bit about the next couple of days is you know what does
451. 1:03:48this mean the management process from a small to a large Enterprise based on some of the things we discussed uh but
452. 1:03:54gosh what a great discussion Kyle over to you yeah so yeah thanks like f fascinating discussion and and I for for
453. 1:04:04me the critical the critical thinking piece that was referenced in in a number of different context in the
454. 1:04:12conversation that to me feels like that is the skill of the future and to some degree that that our ability to sort of
455. 1:04:21look across disciplines and know that the the the machines are going to increasingly execute the Tactical pieces
456. 1:04:30and what's required is okay what do I actually want to accomplish what do I actually want to do um the the other thing I would say is
457. 1:04:38this the the all of the conversations we're having today about the limitations of AI is a snapshot you know where we
458. 1:04:46are today this stuff is moving so fast that what what I would encourage you to do is get curious about these tools um
459. 1:04:54interact with them and even if you even if you're of the mind like well it's not really ready for prime time now check
460. 1:05:01back in 3 months because the the the amount of features that get added to these tools and just improvements that
461. 1:05:08get added to these tools kind of the fly under the radar are dramatic so if you're not actively engaging with them
462. 1:05:14you may miss that so there might be something that actually solves your problem that comes along very very
463. 1:05:19quickly uh and you and you sort of let it pass by for a year or two there's going to be a lot of missed opportunity
464. 1:05:24so I would just say get curious you don't have to love it but I would say get educated about uh what these tools
465. 1:05:30can do where the current boundaries are and and you know what they're good at what they're not good at and then use
466. 1:05:36your critical thinking to say okay here's the 80% I can use them for today and the 20% I'll do the way I did it
467. 1:05:43before and just pay attention to that balance over time so yeah yeah may I say one more thing uh briefly okay critical
468. 1:05:52thinking I think is is is is a wrong term I think it's just it's thinking we have we had slow thinking which is
469. 1:05:58analytical thinking and what some people calling critical thinking we have fast thinking which is heuristic that Conan
470. 1:06:05pointed out now we have algorithmic thinking it's all thinking it all has to be integrated by all of us and if you're
471. 1:06:13not using one of the ways of thinking I think that you're missing it okay and my you know thought uh as we you know you
472. 1:06:23know blow out the CLE on you know that single candle on top of the GP chat GPT birthday cake is when you first us this
473. 1:06:32it's actually fun yeah right I mean we're talking about you know uh now taking it you know how are you going to use it you know how is
474. 1:06:41this I would just suggest to you that um anyone who is you know mildly you know put off by this it's just given an
475. 1:06:52opportunity to use the one that you've already signed on to for a moment say ask it to do something right because the
476. 1:07:01initial experience is oh that's remarkable that's cool right um do you also get a little tingle that oh you know this is
477. 1:07:13uh this is going to be you know big yeah yeah it is right but you should go ahead and try to expose people to the fun part
478. 1:07:23initially and if they can at least have that experience as a craft right the Art and Science comes later so I would you
479. 1:07:32know just give somebody a I did that with with with Heidi the other day Heidi's my wife uh and she goes I didn't know you could do that and
480. 1:07:42it was the chat gbt 4 now connected to Dolly that you can ask it to make a picture right I mean it's really cool
481. 1:07:51it's amazing can I close this out with the Jerry bir see a quote Kevin about exactly what you link to what you said
482. 1:07:58uh he was one of the guitar first guitar players that could regular was using digital effects built into his guitar
483. 1:08:05not a boatload of pedals these are the things you guys see stomping on the stage and one time uh one of the
484. 1:08:12songwriters John Perry Barlo came into the rehearsal studio and he was Jerry was practicing and he had a new midi set
485. 1:08:19up where it was a he's playing the guitar but it sounds like a mhm right that's what it is and the guy says
486. 1:08:28wow man that's you wow you could be you could have been a really good trumpet player and Jerry kept play and looked at
487. 1:08:35him and said I'm a great [ __ ] trumpet player right now and that's exactly what where he's able to say to your point I can
488. 1:08:45now I can make the sound like a trumpet with some of these effects with my Strings On My Guitar I'm a terrible
489. 1:08:52trumpet player cuz I'm not a very good gu guitar player sure and so I mean that transference I think and adapting to
490. 1:08:59that new thing to where Jerry Garcia is a trumpet player even though he never played it y That's the kind of I think
491. 1:09:05the joy you're talking about the fun right let find that at some point fun is always going to be like dessert so maybe
492. 1:09:13we then get some fun and we learn hey wait a minute because I just did something with that I sent to Kyle that
493. 1:09:18I didn't think it could do yep exactly right which is once I programmed it I said wait a minute that doesn't sound
494. 1:09:24like me and it went back and did another take yeah and it was pretty good so sorry for the bad language thanks everybody for being with
495. 1:09:35us if you were a guest today and you you like the the format of this particular call uh let Kyle know or you can write
496. 1:09:44to C content evolution. net and we'll add you to the distribution list y so everyone thanks so much for being with
497. 1:09:50us uh for this special edition of content evolution new world and in everything you do be intentional Kyle
498. 1:09:57thanks for being with us today thanks cheers everybody happy birthday thank you happy happy birthday chat gbt recording
499. 1:10:09stopped all right well there you have it that was fun that was fun all right let's see how do I all right I can do a few more minutes
500. 1:10:24here very cool thanks for sharing thanks for thanks for hanging out there's a bunch of people in here that hung out
501. 1:10:30watching watching a bunch of people pontificate about the future of AI so thank you for hanging out um let me go get
502. 1:10:44my let's put chat GPT back front and center happy birthday chat gbt um let me flip this here and do I have pictures open no hang on
503. 1:10:58uh photos let's see photos hang on one
504. 1:11:17sec all right there we go that's a good picture we'll throw that picture there that's a little happy birthday chat GPT
505. 1:11:35picture lovely lovely lovely lovely all right so I didn't have a chance to really I saw a couple of comments fly
506. 1:11:42through but I was obviously having to pay attention to uh to what was going on there so um if anyone has any questions pop them in the
507. 1:11:52comments I know we've got some mods in here that can pop them up um this is um I'm doing 24 hours of a chat GP Aon
508. 1:12:05um I have to I'll have to leave occasionally to go do my day job running Story vine is it possible to access the
509. 1:12:11recording of This Zoom meeting yeah so if you join the AI Salon which is go to AIS salon. MN as in Mighty networks. Co uh if you're not a
510. 1:12:24member of the AI Salon join the salon and then um the mods posted the links to the new world recordings in uh I don't know where you posted
511. 1:12:36them where did you post them uh probably in news is it difficult to learn prompt engineering no so especially with chat
512. 1:12:46GPT well actually all the large language models it I I hate the term prompt engineering I prefer the term prompt
513. 1:12:56crafting um it's really just talking the the thing the thing that I think will improve your prompt engineering the most
514. 1:13:04you said to post to news okay great so if you go to the AI Salon in the news channel um there's a link to the the
515. 1:13:13content evolution new world calls so that Zoom call that we were just on the recording of that will probably be up
516. 1:13:19tomorrow or the next day um so so the link to it's in the Salon though uh prompt articulation prompt crafting here's the thing that that
517. 1:13:29shifted the the biggest for me is that if you think about how you prompt Google it it's sort of this one prompt in one
518. 1:13:38prompt out uh thanks Eric AIS salon. mn. um you you kind of have to get your prompt right to get back a good search
519. 1:13:51result what happens with large Lang anguage models is it's much more like a conversation so you can either get
520. 1:13:57really good at prompt engineering right and figure out here's all the components of the prompt I need to make to give me
521. 1:14:02the exact right output and d da d da da and give it nested and formatted and all that sort of [ __ ] or you can just start
522. 1:14:09a conversation with chat GPT hey I'm trying to figure this out can you help sure blah blah blah blah blah and then
523. 1:14:16you you go back and forth with it and give it more and more context so I would say the thing that will improve prove
524. 1:14:23you're prompting the most is just do it don't feel like you have to learn anything don't feel like you need to become a prompt
525. 1:14:35engineer if you're a human being with language then you can interact with these things now might people with an
526. 1:14:45engineering mindset do it better they might I've got a a creative writing mindset and I I do okay with prompting
527. 1:14:55do I follow all of the rules and I tell it to act in this role and do this and give me the output like this like prompt
528. 1:15:01Engineers do no I don't because I got add and I don't give a [ __ ] I feel like I feel like any specific set of rules I
529. 1:15:10learned today are going to be obsolete 3 months from now anyway so why would I do that so for me it's just like just start
530. 1:15:18talking with these things start yeah yeah Broody H digital chicken said you learn after a while how do you learn go
531. 1:15:29play don't try to solve your biggest problem right out of the gate like do stupid [ __ ] what what meal can I make with the
532. 1:15:38crap in my refrigerator and with chat gp4 you can take a picture of what's in your refrigerator and it will analyze it
533. 1:15:46and then write you a recipe based on what it sees so start playing just start playing chat GPT can now use um can now use
534. 1:15:58images as prompts so so a good prompt might be the Whiteboard session that you just had um let me just make sure I'm not
535. 1:16:10missing anything at work there's one thing I need to do um all right so wait what time is it I've got uh let me do another I'll do
536. 1:16:24another 20 minutes here I sent a card to Sam Alman with close enough that's good that's very good hopefully close enough was
537. 1:16:39misspelled or I didn't see it was Tiny text so you might have actually made that joke um they will become better at natural
538. 1:16:50language you mean computers Pate so Pate works at Google so the T-shirt rack just sent my request to join AI Salon okay great let me go
539. 1:17:02look over there I don't know if anyone is letting people in because it's invite only so let me go
540. 1:17:17[Music] look all right so people that were waiting to
541. 1:17:31be let in you are in all right fantastic fantastic Bob tell him what he's want he you want a new car you want a new car
542. 1:17:41that's for sure mhm yeah B jingus it's a uh it's a Mercury Topaz it's a 1997 Mercury Topaz that's free and clear we
543. 1:17:53we've we've paid for all of the fees we've we've paid for them all and I'll tell you what we're going to give you a
544. 1:17:59$50 gift card to fill up your tank of gas with that Mercury Topaz that's yours that's free and clear good to go you're
545. 1:18:07going to have to pay the taxes though okay all right fantastic we picked that up down at the auto trader and uh it's a
546. 1:18:14it's a gem of a car it still runs good it still runs it's a lot of miles it's a lot of miles on it there's a smell of a
547. 1:18:22it's a it's some sort of feline it might be a feline kind of situation uh or squirrels uh but boy it's a gem of a car
548. 1:18:29so you enjoy that you just take it you drive it wherever you want for it's probably good for about 50 miles before
549. 1:18:35before it overheats but uh that Mercury Topaz it'll just keep running and running all right do you know how to use
550. 1:18:42chat GPT and Dolly wait do you know how using chat GPT for and Dolly works with using those images online for for your company yes use
551. 1:18:56them use them I mean if you generate an image with a Coke logo on it I wouldn't use that you know you need to follow
552. 1:19:05basic basic uh things but there there's no um no one's going to come after you for using a generated image image thank
553. 1:19:14you so much for letting me in Kyle seriously you're welcome Edson welcome I've seen you you've been here for the
554. 1:19:19past couple of nights I think so welcome welcome welcome and it's not night by the way it's morning where where I
555. 1:19:26am uh booking tons of travel today used a new GPT I made that I'll post once I'm done perfecting it oh that's super cool
556. 1:19:35Silver Fox I these gpts I mean the the thing I think I'm most excited about is people who are not historically software developers are
557. 1:19:46going to develop stuff that software developers would never have developed right or just they'll just do it in a different way
558. 1:19:53cuz they don't know any better right they don't know the limitations so they're going to figure some [ __ ] out
559. 1:19:58that we're going to be like oh I didn't know you could do that that's a unique way of thinking about it show us that
560. 1:20:05whiteboard what do I have on it oh this is actually you know let me see
561. 1:20:21something um these are uh interface design
562. 1:20:36screens for um okay so my current company Story vine which is there's my little there's my little trade show Banner we don't go to trade
563. 1:20:49shows anymore so I just I just have it set up in my office um so it's it's an automated uh video storytelling platform so people use our
564. 1:21:00app to answer some questions in the app and a few minutes later it makes a video we've been around for 11 and a half
565. 1:21:06years it does not use AI to do that automation um but about a year ago we incorporated open ai's whisper transcription into the
566. 1:21:17platform so for every video in the system we now know what it says so what these screens are is we're building a system where you can
567. 1:21:25either take a Story vine video or you can upload a video to it and within about 10 or 15 seconds it'll automatically transcribe the video it
568. 1:21:35then chapter IES the video so it'll break it into its chapters its component parts with time code it then writes a
569. 1:21:43title of the video a description of the video and then there's a whole set of buttons that you can push to generate
570. 1:21:49tweets a blog post about the video so so um so that's what that is what else do we have up here idea interview
571. 1:22:01people to let's see the surrender experiment all right that's just self-help [ __ ] everything here is ai ai
572. 1:22:11future road map [ __ ] for my company yay um you did it chat GPT you're the best all right it's his plans to take
573. 1:22:23over the world you're damn right maybe do more lunch and learns while we're not falling asleep maybe I can I can maybe do that
574. 1:22:33I've got a I've got a fair amount of um I got a fair amount of weekly meetings but you know one thing I could do I do a LinkedIn live on
575. 1:22:49Fridays called AI office hours so now that I've sort of figured out how to do this thing where I can be on Tik Tok and
576. 1:22:57in a in in another meeting at the same time maybe I'll maybe I'll stream those Tik Tok things and I'll figure out a way
577. 1:23:05to deal with the comments better CU I didn't I didn't I just ignored you all for the last hour that's a lot of stuff okay thanks
578. 1:23:18guys you wrote chat PT on your poster uh no chat GPT wrote chat PT on the poster so one of the things image generation in in all these image
579. 1:23:32generation tools does really poorly is spelling so it got birthday right and it got happy right so this's just a g
580. 1:23:41missing you can Photoshop that in
581. 1:24:01[Music] all right uh I actually need to use claw right now
582. 1:24:17to do a data analysis report because of gen generative AI Peeps are searching Google differently they know they now
583. 1:24:28ask how and why and expect a gen AI experience interesting I don't know how Google deals with this quite honestly see CU
584. 1:24:41Microsoft Microsoft can lean in heavy into this stuff because their primary revenue is not from advertising um Kyle I noticed that the
585. 1:24:50viewer count has been in the upper 300s that that pin just went away do you pay for any AI subscriptions which ones are
586. 1:24:58worth it for hobbyists like image generating um so it depends what you want to do for for me chat gp4 is if I
587. 1:25:07if I could only have one subscription that would be the subscription I'd pay for um if you want to do sort of
588. 1:25:13higher-end art then mid journey is worth paying for I think you can do a 10 Buck a month thing that'll get you a decent amount of of render
589. 1:25:24um as exciting as all the video stuff is the video things are all quite expensive just in terms of like per per minute of
590. 1:25:33video produced they're pretty expensive um hey Jen and Runway ML and pabs and all that um and then same with
591. 1:25:44the auto audio synthesis stuff they're kind of expensive I would say chat GPT is the big one that I would pay for for
592. 1:25:52and then if you really want to do you know specialized higher-end art um invest in a mid Journey subscription as
593. 1:25:59well I think those two are the biggies um we give you a geni response in Google searches might be a beta feature that
594. 1:26:08you enable yeah P but one of the problems is this would actually be an interesting Insight from you I I
595. 1:26:16understand why it's there but it's it's frustrating if I pay Google if I pay Google I don't get the advanced
596. 1:26:26features the advanced features are not available to work work group or whatever the hell the Google product is for
597. 1:26:34companies that pay for Google all that advanced [ __ ] we can't use it's really annoying um Kyle I noticed that the
598. 1:26:41viewer count has been in the upper 300s during this live during this day live and looks like your followers count is
599. 1:26:48up awesome thank you very much Tobias for for checking in on that yeah this was amazing this this uh live where we
600. 1:26:55just we did the the zoom call um started at 75 people it kind of peaked at about 150 and came back down we're we're right
601. 1:27:03back where we started at 80 right now so it's amazing um it will be smart enough to sift through them and Spotlight which ones
602. 1:27:12are most interesting to you does Kyle look tired to anyone yes I've been I've been so last night I went live at 8 uh
603. 1:27:21I'm also shooting up it's a it's an up angle so my chin looks particularly large which chin the the third one looks big
604. 1:27:30um um I went live at 800 last night till 10:30 took a nap went live at midnight till 3:30 in the morning yeah there
605. 1:27:39there were more than 400 this morning I know it was crazy um then I got up at 6 I did a a live from 6:00 to 810 or
606. 1:27:48something like that then I just did this one now I got to go do some work for store Story vine then I'm going to come
607. 1:27:53back in the afternoon then I'm going to go home and have dinner then I'm going to come back so I'm going to keep doing
608. 1:27:59you will have to deal with me looking tired but that's okay how and why searches in Google went up 38% that's
609. 1:28:07amazing amazing uh mid Journey feels hard to use so there's a technical reason for that it's because it's hard to use
610. 1:28:20um if if you want ease of use um Dolly 3 is the easiest if you have a subscription to gp4 it's built into it
611. 1:28:34you can just say make me an image of this or you can be in the context of a conversation talking about a marketing
612. 1:28:40strategy and say hey I'd like some images for that marketing strategy and it will generate them for you so the
613. 1:28:46nice thing about do3 is it does the prompting for you you kind of make a request it does the actual ual prompt
614. 1:28:52behind the scenes so you can do that either at um chat. open.com the paid version or co-pilot microsoft.com is Microsoft's version of
615. 1:29:08chat GPT and it's got Dolly 3 built into it so you can use that for free um yep I already I already answered that
616. 1:29:20all right fantastic I've been using Dolly and it's great what about Photoshop so photoshop's good photoshop's got a thing called
617. 1:29:27generative fill within it here's how I've been using Photoshop the Adobe Firefly base generative stuff is not
618. 1:29:38really up to par with the other things although they did just come out with firefly 2 which is better um but what I've been using
619. 1:29:48Photoshop for is I'll generate something say in do and then maybe do adds some words in the upper right hand corner and
620. 1:29:56I don't want those words there or I I did it in the wrong aspect ratio but I love the image I'll then go into
621. 1:30:03Photoshop and do generative fill or I'll select certain areas and and and use generative fill to fill in certain areas of an
622. 1:30:11image um I wonder if I've got no I don't have it up um so anyway all this generate I didn't that that
623. 1:30:22went away too quick before I could read it clap is impressive where it takes a 30 minute video and creates shorts for
624. 1:30:29posting yeah there's a bunch of those Kevin there's one that we're using called VI does does that there there's a
625. 1:30:37there's a pile of them out there that will take long form videos and turn them into shorts all this generated all all
626. 1:30:44this generates so much anxiety I feel lost already okay Nicholas super important um that's exactly the appropriate feeling I
627. 1:30:57have been wait you aren't home right now no I'm at I'm I'm at the office um that feeling of overwhelm is is not something that goes
628. 1:31:10away I hate to break it to you but if the Panic that you're feeling is oh [ __ ] I've missed it or oh [ __ ] I've
629. 1:31:18behind or oh [ __ ] I'm not smart enough just let all that [ __ ] go just start playing with it if you're on this
630. 1:31:26channel right now if you're like wanting to be curious you're way ahead of the game way ahead of the game we are very early as
631. 1:31:37as sophisticated as these tools are they're they're babies this is the oneyear anniversary of this tool that
632. 1:31:44kind of changes the game one year in um so yes there's a lot to catch up with but you don't have to catch up with all
633. 1:31:51of it if if there's one thing I would say to do is chat GPT it is by far it it's farther ahead in terms of its capabilities than any
634. 1:32:02other tool right now and so rather than feeling like you got to learn all that other [ __ ] just pick a single tool and
635. 1:32:10just play with it don't feel like you have to you know do anything other than have fun because in having fun you'll discover
636. 1:32:21something where you go oh I know what I could do with this and then you'll go do that and then you'll solve a problem
637. 1:32:26over there you're like okay that wasn't so bad and then just go back to having fun all right this is fun I like making
638. 1:32:32pictures what if I made a card game oh it it gave me the rules of the card game well wait what if I turned that into an
639. 1:32:39action adventure text based game oh it could do that too wait could it visualize the images oh there's the IM just
640. 1:32:46play and then someone will come to you and they'll be like you know what I need to do I need to figure out how to make a
641. 1:32:51action Adventure game for my pizza parlor how do I don't how about I even begin to do I can do that for you I just did
642. 1:32:59that charge him 500 bucks and make him a game is there a mentor list that someone can get on yes it's called the AI Salon hang
643. 1:33:18[Music] on hang on my presentation's up in the cloud I got a I got a downloader we got a downloader from the cloud if you know
644. 1:33:30what I mean you put your you put your files up in the cloud there and then uh and then you need internet access to go
645. 1:33:36to the cloud and get them it's it's a cloud it's it's a technical thing I don't want to be too intimidating but
646. 1:33:41I'm you know I'm technically gifted I know terms like Cloud all [Music] right okay this this is what we
647. 1:33:58want in this community the AI salon so this is a group that I started um wait I've noticed that in the last
648. 1:34:09month everyone is starting to catch up they are except they're catching up to like chat GPT 3.5 no one's anywhere close to GPT 4
649. 1:34:20um the AI Salon if you go to AIS salon. mn. this is a community I started a year ago next Tuesday is our Oney year
650. 1:34:29anniversary we started this group the week after chat GPT launched because when chat GPT launched I lost my [ __ ]
651. 1:34:39mind and uh and this group is is about people that are opting in learning about this stuff so so what this ends up being
652. 1:34:48is kind of like a support group for for for people that are trying to learn this AI stuff so if you're feeling a little
653. 1:34:54drifting in the wind and you want to hang out with people that are up to things that's what this group is we meet
654. 1:35:00every other Tuesday we meet in person here in Denver and we also meet remotely this coming Tuesday is our Oney year
655. 1:35:07anniversary December 5th um the information of that is is there there's a show int tell Channel there's guilds
656. 1:35:14so you can actually join a guild whether it's writing or art or AI 101 if you're a beginner um Peter Kaminsky runs the a
657. 1:35:23AI 101 Guild he's super he's amazing guy really patient really softspoken he'll walk you through stuff he makes it very
658. 1:35:31not scary so anyway yeah that's your uh that's your Mentor group as far as I'm concerned all right all right people
659. 1:35:42listen I got to I got to go do some work so support group and secret cyborg confessionals exactly the uh AI confessionals are the
660. 1:35:51best best Sherry D thank you so much I appreciate that um thanks for hanging out with me I'm going to go do some some
661. 1:35:57of my day job work like go build some of this [ __ ] and then um um I'll be back let me look at my calendar I'll be [Music]
662. 1:36:13back I will be back probably around 12:30 Mountain maybe 1:00 Mountain so sometime in that Arena Be not Afraid
663. 1:36:22thank you so much for those gifts that means a lot I appreciate it um all right peace out everybody hope you enjoyed
664. 1:36:29that thanks for hanging out y'all are awesome I will see you later tell your friends tell the people in your life
665. 1:36:35that you think this will bug that that you're watching an AI learning Lab live it'll piss them off send them all right see you later