11/03/2025 - The Daily Practice of Play, Adaptability, and Finding Your Purpose in the Age of AI

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1. 0:00Come on, buddy. You coming? [music] [music]
2. 0:30Is this place I can rest my forehead? Gather my thoughts in sweet [singing] silence. [music] Is this place where the feelings
3. 0:46[singing] are dead? [music] From an overexposure [singing] to violence. This is the place I [music] can slowly
4. 0:57face. The only one I [singing] truly can know. These are tears [music] from a long time ago. Got these tears from a long time ago. I
5. 1:11need to cry. 30 years old. So [music] these are [singing] tears from a long time. No. [music]
6. 1:27Oh darling, oh darling, you say unto me, [singing] where have you been all my life?
7. 1:42I [singing] have been swimming seven [music] sad seas. Oh, women have tossed me their lifelines. [music and singing]
8. 1:52I pulled them into the waters darker. I'd have warned them, but [music] I didn't know. These are tears from a
9. 2:02[singing and music] long time ago. Got these tears from a long time ago. I need to cry. 30 years old or so. [music] These are tears
10. 2:16from a long time [music and singing] ago. [laughter] [music]
11. 2:35Robbie, you're always on when I wake up from a nightmare. [laughter] I think I'm going to take that in a positive light, [laughter]
12. 2:49but it could go either way. Very possible I'm causing the nightmare. [laughter] Oh, that's awesome. Oh, good evening.
13. 3:01Happy Monday, good people. Hope you had a good weekend. >> [music] [music]
14. 3:16>> in a westerly direction. [singing] This car is my train.
15. 3:30I've been traveling. I've been wondering what it is I'm running from again. Feel like an 80y old man [music]
16. 3:44holding on to 29. Love that line. [music] Up ahead on the horizon is California. [music]
17. 4:04up here. Trucks carrying a wide load. Pre fab house cut in half. [music] Cute little front door and two windows. My love
18. 4:17ain't sure with a cry should laugh. [music] You see a broken as I stumbled to that door. [music] I read a note by [singing] the
19. 4:32dawn light said, "Don't you come around here [music] anymore." [singing] >> Well, I've had enough
20. 4:47of this freedom on the rock. Never was good with decision. [singing] At least that's what I've been told. [music] Yoohoo.
21. 5:03[music] [music]
22. 5:24Um, I hope everyone is well. Tell me what's going on. I would love to hear what is inspiring you these days. What
23. 5:39where are you finding inspiration? [music] >> [music] >> No. [music]
24. 5:59[music] [music] >> [music]
25. 6:17>> Side hustle Mimi, I posted my newly created website in irregulars. That is awesome. Champions are inspiration. I
26. 6:25like that. Solid, solid, solid, solid. Inspiration coming from Reddit. Really? But inspiration from Reddit. That's awesome.
27. 6:38I found inspiration right here. Love that. Love that. Love love love. [music]
28. 6:53[music] [music] >> [music]
29. 7:14[music] >> People post all of their problems on Reddit. [clears throat] I create apps for them. Oh, that's actually really genius.
30. 7:25That's That's really good, Vicki. [laughter] We've talked about that in here, right? What problem are you solving? you know
31. 7:33the the where's my gold button here? This button. >> You can make money with GPT. >> You know, we've talked about that for
32. 7:42years now. That that how you make money with Chat GPT is no different than how you [clears throat] make money [music]
33. 7:51with Photoshop or a shovel or a frying pan. [music] It's identical. You're like, "What are you talking about? But a frying pan and AI is not
34. 8:03the same thing at all. [laughter] And you're correct, but I don't know why you have to talk to me like that. It's very rude. [music]
35. 8:21>> [laughter] >> Um, but the way it's the same is [singing and music] you figure out a problem that people are
36. 8:31having. [music] And if you know how to use one of those tools and you can solve someone's problem and if it's a big enough problem and your
37. 8:41solution is compelling enough, they will give you money for that solution or at least a little attention. [music]
38. 8:59[music] AI is the new frying pan, Vicki. That's really good. Yeah, exactly. Start a restaurant, start a GPT.
39. 9:13You know, one of the things that I am realizing, um, so last maybe Thursday, I think it was Thursday, might have been Friday, I
40. 9:24don't know. Um, producer Brandon hop hopped up on stage and talked about the GPT that he made for um, people dealing
41. 9:35with SNAP benefits maybe not being there. And and he talked about, you know, why he built it and how he thought
42. 9:43about it and and the thought he put into it when he built it and and that was inspiring in in and of itself. Um,
43. 9:55and you know, we we talked about it in here. We posted it. I think Andy maybe grabbed a thing and posted it on
44. 10:00LinkedIn about it. Um, and it it got some attention. Like some some folks that I know are like, do you know this Brandon fella? [laughter]
45. 10:11I'm like, I sure do. [laughter] Well, he's doing amazing things there. And what what struck me was, hey, yes,
46. 10:21he is. and let's let's get him some, you know, let's get him some kudos for the for the work that he did. But I feel
47. 10:27like within the salon, there's there's a lot of that spirit. There's a lot of people doing that. And one of the things that [music]
48. 10:36I would like to get better at as as a as a community, as an organization, not as a community, that sort of puts it on
49. 10:42everyone else. One of the things I'd like to get better at um as an organization is bragging about the amazing things that our people do.
50. 10:54[laughter] Like it it's almost like I've come to take I've come to take for granted that we have such a remarkable group of
51. 11:03people that are generous and kind and smart and motivated and self-driven and [ __ ] show up right. Showing up the practice of
52. 11:17showing up for these lives. the practice of just being in the conversation and thinking creatively about how you can do
53. 11:25interesting things with AI or as Vicki said trolling Reddit for people you know that that have got a solvable problem
54. 11:34um is super inspiring right it's super inspiring and I don't think [music] the salon does a great job of doing that
55. 11:43shout out Mary Mary369 who texted to check on me and my parents tonight wow like That like that that's huge and I hope they're they're
56. 11:56well source camp that's huge right because what does that tell you it's got it's got nothing to do with AI it's got nothing to do with AI
57. 12:09it says that we've got a community that are thinking about [music] human beings and yeah we're excited When some new
58. 12:19crazy ass technology comes out, it's like, oh, it's exciting. It's like a Christmas, you know? It's like a present under the tree.
59. 12:29But in the end, the presents under the tree are just an excuse to sit around the fire later and talk and connect.
60. 12:39And that's what these meetings are. [music] That's what the AI salon is. And that's what life is, [laughter] right? [music]
61. 12:53I am more and more convinced the people that are going to be hireable and valuable moving forward are going to be people
62. 13:08that are [music] intentional, empathetic, >> [music] >> committed to doing work that makes a
63. 13:23difference. [music] Curious, adaptable. [music]
64. 13:38[music] It's funny as I'm sitting here strumming my guitar, I just [laughter] I feel like I'm one of those spoken beat
65. 13:52poets in the 80s in in Manhattan. The streets were dark and black. I was feeling heavy. [music] I was sporting a hangover from two days
66. 14:07ago. I haven't really slept much. [laughter] We are moving through this life together on this channel. Yeah, it's so true.
67. 14:25[music] [music]
68. 14:40>> [music] [music] [music] >> Um
69. 14:57I want to be a beat nick. Exactly. Talking back especially when go going back an hour. Exactly. Um yeah.
70. 15:09You know, it's so funny. I had a really good talk with Liz and Andy today. We were talking about designing the the mastermind practice,
71. 15:19the framework that we're going to we're going to build a whole bunch of stuff around. And it was such a good conversation
72. 15:28and just everything felt connected. And I know that sounds kind of ethereal and weird, but um
73. 15:47I've talked about this before where [clears throat] the thing that's the most remarkable the most remarkable experience
74. 16:04of AI for me is that in a lot of ways inter interacting with it is kind of like interacting on this channel, right? This is a what we have
75. 16:18here is a a small group of people that show up on a regular basis, an irregular basis. [laughter] Um, and when I talk, what's what's being
76. 16:32reflected back at me is is humanity, right? It's the humanity that shows up for this thing. And, you know, I'm talking, you're reacting, and
77. 16:42I get to take what comes at me, process that, put it back out there, that inspires other people to say stuff,
78. 16:50right? It's it's this sort of beautiful back and forth, this kind of real- time collaboration. and and you know because
79. 16:56I'm leading it, it often doesn't have a ton of direction. That's that's just the nature of my spirit. But when
80. 17:08when you interact with AI to a great degree, that's what you're doing there as well, right? It's disembodied humanity, right?
81. 17:20It's all of the outputs of humanity that have been compressed into this these models. But when you do it right, you know,
82. 17:28you're sort of putting ideas into this thing and and you know, they're getting absorbed into all that knowledge and
83. 17:34reflected back at you and amplified and and to a very real degree, you're interacting with humanity. And so, like,
84. 17:46what a [ __ ] amazing time to be alive. that we get to experience that and we get to experience the knowledge
85. 18:01like we've got very unique knowledge that our kids like I mean little kids not my kids my kids are older tik tok
86. 18:09pin wait look how AI is bringing us together what did that say oh yeah humanity yeah exactly exactly like like I I I really do I and this
87. 18:21listen if I'm accused of being a little polyianaish on this. I do think that AI is in a weird way going to bring people together. I think
88. 18:32social media is the the the [snorts] most horribly named of all of the technologies because it it it accomplishes the opposite.
89. 18:43And artificial intelligence um may actually drive real humanity. Um amplify real humanity [music] and real empathy.
90. 18:57[music] [music]
91. 19:12>> [music] >> You know, I was thinking about in the past week or two, I've been talking about this idea of a daily practice using AI
92. 19:23and you know, asking people what inspires them and, you know, Dr. Jay kind of, you know, off-handedly, you know, almost a month into
93. 19:38being pen pals with a 90-year-old Armenian poet [laughter] who she connected with in this sort of weird sort of way. And then he just sent
94. 19:51her a poem out of nowhere and she turned it into a song and sent it back to him. and then he sent in another poem. And so they've been doing
95. 20:02this back and forth thing for I guess a month now. And I just I I just find that remarkable. Like the the inspiration in
96. 20:13that is it's like on many many many many levels. And the thing that gives me joy about that is what it must be like for him, right? I
97. 20:28mean, the guy obviously has sent poems to other people before, right? [laughter] I'm sure people go, "Oh, that crazy old
98. 20:36poet." Or just not even. They just look at it go, "Oh, that's that's nice. Thanks." You know, she sent him back a song. It's like
99. 20:46must have literally like knocked his socks off. [snorts] And then when she said that, like, a bunch of people on the live got really
100. 20:55excited about it. It's become like it's come up in a number of different conversations now like in in the past
101. 21:02bunch of days and I feel like same thing with Brandon, same thing with some of the stuff Vickiy's doing. Like I feel
102. 21:07like to a person some of the the Corey Sandler the other night when she was like you know I've got this Eloise
103. 21:14series can can we make a song for Eloise and we just made that. There's just all this um this kind of weird um
104. 21:30the interesting parts of what we're doing with AI have nothing to do with AI. And I think that's absolutely right. I
105. 21:43think it's absolutely right. >> [clears throat] >> I think so many people are so missing the point on AI.
106. 21:52They're looking at AI as an adversary, right? The robots are going to get us. It's us against AI. AI is going to take our jobs.
107. 22:02AI did that. AI can't be creative. There's all this AI AI AI. like it's this adversary and it's black and white. It's black and
108. 22:17white. You either love it or you hate it, right? You either worship at the feet of AI or you're a doomer.
109. 22:27And I feel like while I certainly lean toward the optimistic, there's a lot about AI that sucks bad, [laughter] right?
110. 22:40And then there's a remarkableness to it when you reframe it from a thing that you have to oppose to an entity that you get to collaborate
111. 22:56with. And if you're sitting in a situation where you get to where you're privileged enough and you think about it like that,
112. 23:08you're privileged enough to live in a time in history where we get the opportunity to interact with this entity
113. 23:16that reflects our humanity back to us in this amplified and magnificent way. It then begs the question
114. 23:31what are you going to do with it? Who are you going to inspire? Who are you going to touch? What difference are you going to make?
115. 23:54And increasingly I don't give a [ __ ] about the tools. I think it's important to understand
116. 24:13that there are some things to learn for how to use the tools, right? But if you think about think about all of the tools that a home builder
117. 24:28has to know, right? They've got to use back hoes and laser levels and things that
118. 24:43find out if there's electricity [clears throat] or plumbing underground so they don't break a water man. They've got to understand different
119. 24:53kinds of concrete and what you would use for a foundation and what you wouldn't and how big the rocks are. There's a lot
120. 24:59of incredibly technical things that you have to know, but in the end, what they're building is is a thing someone's going to spend
121. 25:13their life in. Now, they I'm sure they don't think about it like that. Maybe architects do, but I I would imagine
122. 25:19that there's there's a fair amount of builders that don't think about the tools at all. The tools are second nature.
123. 25:28What it then comes down to is like, do I have pride in this thing I'm making? Am I am I doing this in a way that's going
124. 25:33to make a difference in someone's life? Like I feel like we get it. We get we
125. 25:50in this in in this sort of teenytiny slice of history that get to live most of our lives without AI and then some
126. 26:00amount of our lives with it. We're in the really fortunate position of choosing how we use AI and what difference
127. 26:16we want to make for people with it. That very well may influence how a lot of people use it in the future.
128. 26:26Now, it might not seem like that on this channel, like like we're just hanging out talking about [ __ ] Occasionally doing something.
129. 26:35Occasionally, I finish a sentence. [music] Steo retired 10 years ago at 53. Good
130. 26:51for you. I'm 60. It's still going strong, man. [music]
131. 27:10[music] [snorts] [music] Liz said something really cool today. She was talking about um she was talking about
132. 27:25curiosity and she said there was a time in her life where she was sort of coming into the present about
133. 27:39being curious and she realized that she wasn't. And she she thought she was broken. And and what she realized was that she
134. 27:53was so tied up in, you know, work and making money and solving problems and doing the thing. She was so obsessed with
135. 28:07I don't know if you know anything about sort of theories of like solar energy and lunar energy. Solar energy is is
136. 28:13sort of it's what you know psychologists sometimes will describe as masculine energy. Lunar energy is sometimes
137. 28:20described as feminine energy. I like solar lunar because both men and women can have both solar and lunar energy. There's no stigma to it.
138. 28:30And what she was basically describing was that her psyche was so filled with this these solar activities. Got to do
139. 28:38the thing. Got to make the money. Got to make the decisions. Got to that there was literally no room for the curiosity stuff,
140. 28:50right? That it that when you're in this mode where you have to solve and you have to be and you have to do,
141. 28:59there's no room for being curious because there's no place for it to land. There's no there's no place for you to process it.
142. 29:07And then as we [clears throat] were talking within the AI salon, we've got this cycle of AI readiness and and step one is play first
143. 29:20and step two is create excellence and step three is generously lead. And what we actually ended up talking about was
144. 29:27that these are actually really distinct psychic modes or like psychological modes. play first. If you're too sort of driven
145. 29:38to like make money or make an automation or or solve the problem, you there is no room for play. There is no room for curiosity.
146. 29:48And so play first is really this idea of lunar. It's about ideiation. It's about curiosity. It's about learning. It's about not knowing.
147. 29:59It's about not having expectations. And if you can get yourself to that place where you just let all that stuff
148. 30:08drift away, it makes room for new stuff to come in. And then in create excellence, you're shifting from that
149. 30:15solar energy to or to that lunar energy to solar energy where we're going to create excellence. We're going to set
150. 30:21some intentionality. We're going to execute, right? We're going to we're going to make the thing. We're going to
151. 30:27commit to the fidelity of the idea. And then the generously lead part is when those two things come together and
152. 30:36you connect it with other people in the world. Generously lead is about saying, "Hey, here's this thing I made." You
153. 30:42know, Brandon saying, "Here's this thing I made. Here's why I made it." Connecting with other people to say, "Hey, here's this thing."
154. 30:51[laughter] That's pretty [clears throat] good, Brandon. [music] But that complimentarity of the lunar and the solar working in
155. 31:06tandem and then connecting with other people to share what you've gleaned on your little journey and then just
156. 31:14repeating that and repeating that and repeating that. That's life. That has nothing to do with AI. Like we ended up with that cycle through
157. 31:26the behavior of people in the salon. Right? We discovered this thing that's always been there for millennia. Right? [gasps]
158. 31:37But that says to me that's that then it then it starts to feel universal that even though play first, create
159. 31:45excellence and generously lead is this specific thing for the AI salon about, you know, working with AI, it's also just life.
160. 31:55life when done with intention, you're in one of these three modes, right? So, so I thought that was quite
161. 32:03beautiful today. Um, speaking of which, so how many folks are in here? Oh, we just have a handful of people in here.
162. 32:12All right, this is nice and intimate tonight. Well, most of you probably know this, but December 26th and 27th is AI Festivus,
163. 32:20and it's Friday the 26th, Saturday the 27th. It is 12 hours each day [laughter] and it's free. So, so what we're doing is we're finding
164. 32:36uh as many of our good remarkable friends as we can. Like for example, I got uh Robert Scoble, if you know him
165. 32:44from uh from X, he's been around for years and years and years talking about he was an Apple fanboy for years and he
166. 32:51talks a lot now about Vision Pro and things like that. He's going to come speak. We've got lots and lots of people
167. 32:58that are going to generously give us their time to talk about how they use AI and how they have this practice of
168. 33:13[music] being human with this this remarkable technology. Um, and you're going to learn a ton, but what you're likely going to do is make
169. 33:23friends and get inspired and have an excuse not to talk to your weird uncle. [laughter] He was always a little grabby anyway,
170. 33:34[music] so you can just get away from him [laughter] over Christmas, too. Yeah, it's between Christmas and New Year's. We do we did
171. 33:44that on purpose. So, this started, if you don't know about AI Festivist, the history of it, two years ago or three
172. 33:50years ago, we did a an event called GPT for good, which is where we got together, whoever wanted to show up. I
173. 33:58think it ended up being about, I don't know, hundred of us, 80 of us, 100, something like that. And um [clears throat] and
174. 34:09we made I think 150 custom GPTs for nonprofits. That was really cool. And then last year we did the first AI festivus
175. 34:18and we had 2500 people show up and you know 540 per hour average for across a 24-hour event which is [ __ ] bonkers.
176. 34:29It didn't like we conceived it two weeks before we did it. Um our problem this year is we've got we've got two months.
177. 34:37So we've got way too much time to plan this thing. [laughter] But if you want to see uh the speaker lineup from last year, um if you go to
178. 34:50aifestivist.com, we'll we'll ultimately update that with the new speakers and things like that, but we're we're not
179. 34:55there yet. But you can see what what was there last year. Um Oh, yeah. GPT forgood. If you go to GPT forgood,
180. 35:03wait, http gpt forgood. It's.com, right? Yeah, I think it's gpt forgood. If you go to gptforgood.com, Vicky Baptiste made us a website that
181. 35:15features all 150 of those GPTs that were made for nonprofits. It was super cool. There's never enough time to plan. I
182. 35:24know. It's so true. When you have ADD, No. Oh. Oh. Oh, I see. It's gpt forgood.mmy.canva.site.
183. 35:38sight. [music] [music]
184. 35:54[music] So, I want to ask the question again. Can you please recommend some apps to create worlds? I got a VR headset and I want to start
185. 36:08creating interactive experiences using AI. I got cosmic. I got nothing on that front. I don't I don't know that world at all.
186. 36:20The only one I really know is I think they're called Wonderland. the 3D the 3D world generation thing
187. 36:29hasn't really kicked off yet in earnest I think until [snorts] someone like Unity or um or what you call it um the big 3D one I
188. 36:44forget what it's called um so they put some AI frontends on some of these 3D machines Um I I don't think we're going to see much
189. 36:57in that space. I but I think we'll see it in 2026. There's just nothing this year's come out that's been all that
190. 37:02interesting. But but that what I do know about that world, like I'm working with a couple of people right now that are
191. 37:08deep in that world. Like that is a whole world. Um um what's the woman's name? She spoke at the salon like two years ago.
192. 37:23Oh crap, I forget her name right now. There's there's some people in the salon that know that world, but it's that's a
193. 37:29very specific world. Like that world goes way back to like Second Life and, you know, and Meta.com and things like that. So, [music]
194. 37:38um, it it hasn't really been hit by AI as deep as I would like it to be right now. I I want to be able to speak worlds
195. 37:44into existence. That's just not there. >> [music] >> That looks like a big glass of Bailey's or Kalúa and milk. [laughter]
196. 37:57You wouldn't you like to know? Oh man, I want a 30 second of Vickiy's knowledge. I know. Well, you know, Vicki is in that
197. 38:11she's in a zone right now and she's also, you know, she's she's uh she's off from work for a bit. Um and so even
198. 38:20though she's doing some recovery stuff, her um you know, she's got some cycles. So if I if you start to treat, you know, this
199. 38:31this AI stuff, if you start to treat your life like a daily practice, cuz I think Vicki, she's she's I think she's
200. 38:39now got a GPT with all of her ideas. She's she's pulled all of her ideas out of chat GPT, put them into a spreadsheet, and she's now
201. 38:47systematically going down problem by problem or idea by idea and executing them. Um, [snorts] which is remarkable. But that's just
202. 38:57like what a cool time to be alive that if you choose to do that, you can actually you can actually pull that off.
203. 39:03Like, yeah. Oh, my brain is fluff like Winnie the Pooh. That's really funny. [music] There was one you used to try in here.
204. 39:12Yeah, that's the that's the world world something. [snorts] Um, hang on a second. Um, let's see. Um 3D world maker
205. 39:30world creator. Uh no world. Hang on a sec. world.
206. 39:53Brandon might have a Tik Tok pin. I'm using AI to motivate me every day to get up and write. Lol. I don't know what the
207. 40:01LOL's about. A shoe. That sounds really inspiring. I'm using AI to motivate me every day to get up and write. Why not? Love that.
208. 40:15Jeremy, are you here? From Corey Sandler. Corey Sandler. Corey Sandler is seeking Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Corey
209. 40:23Sandler looking for you. Is there a Jeremy in the house? Um, [music] I keep it away from my story though. We
210. 40:34got to be purists. Education and motivation. That's really funny. Um, I actually think that's really important.
211. 40:41issue. Um, I think that I think that every artist, every creative needs to figure out where their boundary is with how they want to use AI.
212. 40:55And I think it's I think it's a I think it's actually a a quite noble thing to to say, hey, this writing is my sacred
213. 41:05space and I don't want that invaded with how this thing works. I really respect that because what you
214. 41:16what you are doing is saying but I will use it in these other areas which by definition means you have to think about
215. 41:22it critically, right? Where will I use it? Where won't I use it? Why? Skybox AI. That's the one. Thank you,
216. 41:31Brandon. How did you find that? Because my [clears throat] brain [laughter] skybox world. Mad producer skills indeed.
217. 41:48[laughter] Not sky block world. Skybox AI and then I forget what they're Oh, Blockade Labs, but wasn't there I think
218. 42:02there was a new one. There's a new one that um Yeah, this is the one this is the one that I've shown before.
219. 42:23But there's a there's a new one that I that I played with like a month ago and it was called World something.
220. 42:34World maybe World Labs. Hang on. World Labs maybe.
221. 42:52No. No. All right. Um, true 32bit HDRI is here. Changes to memberships. We're giving you less but charging you more. [laughter]
222. 43:11Explore. Well, any one of these you can start with this. Yeah. So this is this. So if you haven't seen
223. 43:19these, I mean these are cool, but what the what this is is literally a sphere. So when you generate a world,
224. 43:28you're you're generating a sphere that you can sort of look up and look down and twirl around, but it's not
225. 43:34navigable. It's not a 3D world, right? This is a well, it's a 3D sphere, but like all of the, you know, uh, geometry
226. 43:42in here doesn't exist. This is This is a flat image mapped to a sphere. [snorts] Um the one that I played with like a month
227. 43:52ago, worldcreator.com. That sounds familiar. Let me try that. Worldcreator.com. World The Elite Elite Realtime Terrain
228. 44:08for Games movies. And no, I don't think this is it. No, no, this is this is more of a traditional this is, you know, what 3D
229. 44:22artists would use to build a world. Look, look at those interfaces. Look at look at the number of menu items over
230. 44:29here to the right. There's like thousands of little menu items. That's that's the nightmare of of current
231. 44:38world development and 3D development software. You have to be a a freaking rocket scientist to figure out those interfaces. Um,
232. 44:48yeah, I forget what it was, but I don't know, whatever. But this is kind of cool. I mean, you can just say um inside of a trunk of a 19
233. 45:0773 Nova [laughter] Google Genie. No, it wasn't that. It was definitely one of these weird weird uh startup companies that had had built
234. 45:21something cuz basically what this company did was rather than map their images they generate to a sphere, they
235. 45:29they attempted to define some type some topography, some geometry to map things to. All right, let's see if it got the
236. 45:40inside of a trunk right. No, [laughter] we got it completely wrong. It doesn't understand what a 1973
237. 45:47Nova is. [laughter] Things were in some sort of fantasy world. This is not This is not uh what you would experience if
238. 45:56you were in the trunk of a 1973 Nova. [laughter] You'd be in there with a a hammer and a jack and and a and a flat tire [laughter]
239. 46:09and probably some duct tape. >> [laughter] >> Second life better watch out. Novas had big trunks. [music] I had a a 1970 Chevy Impala. That
240. 46:24thing's trunk was like a queen-sized bed. It was huge. Skybox found it. Thanks. Jeremy is my photographer nephew and I
241. 46:34want him to join us at the salon in here. Oh, that's awesome. That's beautiful. Worldlblabs.ai AI maybe. Hold on. That
242. 46:44sounds familiar. World Labs, which is I think why I confused it to this one because this is blockade labs with uh skybox.blockadelabs.com.
243. 46:57And then that one's worldlab.ai. World Labs.AI. World Labs. Hang on. No. Oh, it it was World Labs.
244. 47:13No. Well, there was something that we played with. Continue reading. No, this was something that I definitely used
245. 47:28about. Do they have a thing? These guys don't have a thing. This is just like a press release website. Anyway, whatever. All right.
246. 47:38>> [music] [music]
247. 48:01[music] >> Pacers had bigger ones. ones 3D World Simulators, Spatial AI, Black Shark, Lucid, Jua, and Improbable Labs.
248. 48:17Yeah, I don't know. No, none of those are the ones that I I remember playing with. Again, like I said, that's a whole
249. 48:25world, no pun intended, that's a whole world I know nothing about. The whole world building thing. It's something I'm
250. 48:32excited about. I just want to do it when it doesn't suck and when it's easy. [laughter] Oh, lordy. Yeah, cosmic with the with with a VR
251. 48:45headset that Skybox Labs might be kind of fun, but the the my problem with those is you see this cool world and you
252. 48:51kind of want to go explore it and that's that's where those things fall down. Try Blender. Oh god, good lord. Speaking of
253. 49:00Speaking of nested nested nested nested menus, h those interfaces, especially in something like Blender that's open source.
254. 49:10Wow, I remember the Pacer cart. Yeah, I had a when I went to college, I had a 1976 AMC Hornet in sky blue. Look that up on
255. 49:21the internet. 1976 AMC Hornet, Sky Blue. [laughter] You You tell me it's not a miracle I wasn't beat up every day. [laughter]
256. 49:38[laughter] I think Claude can run Blender for you. Can [laughter] AI make a CDROM? That's really good. Well, you know, it's
257. 49:49funny. [clears throat] We are very much in the if you think about games and and game development, the CDROM era where
258. 50:04you were basically taking like information repositories and putting slick frontends on them and delivering them on a disc. [laughter]
259. 50:16like it was a really exciting world for like a five-year window there, right? Culminating with the game Mist. Um, [laughter]
260. 50:28and uh, but it but it was very much a stepping stone to to all of the stuff that came after it. I feel I feel like with AI right now,
261. 50:39this feels conceptually identical to the CDROM era. Like we're going to look back at this time we're in right now and be like, you
262. 50:50remember when you had to actually like know all these tools and you actually had to have skills like prompting and [laughter]
263. 51:00like CD ROMs is like you you remember when we had to learn learn those authoring languages and we were using macromedia, [laughter]
264. 51:08CD Ramifier or whatever the [ __ ] the tools were called [laughter] And there were people that got really
265. 51:16good at those seven tools that you use to put together a CDROM. It's crazy. That's really funny. Um I think it was Magika
266. 51:26Dynamic Labs, but their preview is done. Oh, okay. All right. Oh man, [sighs] look at Joy Party. Joy Joy Joy Party's
267. 51:41in here giving some master lessons. If you want to use Blender, you have to connect you have to install the Blender
268. 51:47MCP and connect Claude to Blender and then you can have Claude use Blender. [laughter] That's very cool. We're going
269. 51:55to look back at this time and be grateful for Kyle Shannon in the AI learning lab. But that's very sweet. Corey Sandler [laughter]
270. 52:05Joy Party. I have no idea how to do that. Uggh. Any computer is so choked. My computer is so choked. >> [laughter]
271. 52:16>> Well, that's again, so listen, Joy Perie, if you don't know, I mean, Joy is someone who who really came into this this this idea
272. 52:31of creating a daily practice, you know, from this place of she had all these stories she's wanted to tell all of her
273. 52:39life, and then she discovers AI and it ignites this thing in her and so she's she's run down these rabbit holes of you
274. 52:48know being able to tell stories in a specific way which has led led to a bunch of this I feel like like Liz
275. 52:54Miller Gersfeld has has a similar thing I think all of our practices are quite different right um if you think like Kelly Bosch and and
276. 53:04even you Corey Sandler like the the way you run down your sort of rabbit holes of self-expression, you know, are very particular to how you
277. 53:16think and how you work. And I that feels right to me. I think that I think it's I think it's a it's an ugly game when when [clears throat]
278. 53:26we start looking at, oh, I should learn this technology just for the sake of learning it just because everyone's talking about MCPs.
279. 53:36Eh, like eh, who gives a [ __ ] Now, if you're really passionate about I want to create [clears throat] a
280. 53:45central place where I can do all of the activities of the world, then you should probably learn MCPs, right? Like if if your passion is
281. 53:56somehow connecting all the apps of the world so you could just ask for anything and it will be generated, then you're
282. 54:02probably running down some MCP rabbit holes. But if you're not, who gives a [ __ ] You know, it just eh whatever
283. 54:11should be talking about MCR. Do you mean MCP? Um 1995 was click to explore. 2025 is described to create. Yeah, exactly.
284. 54:25Exactly. Like this is we are absolutely in an era. I think one of the biggest mistakes people are making right now on
285. 54:33all fronts, on investment fronts, on business fronts, on personal use of AI fronts, is making this the mistake of thinking
286. 54:45that how the world is today is in any way going to resemble how it is a year from now. Like it's just like we're we have we
287. 54:58have such not a clue [laughter] about what's coming. Which again for me it keeps pushing me back to what are we each doing individually like
288. 55:11as a daily practice to just be in the conversation in the game thinking about what we want thinking about what we want
289. 55:19to do thinking about the things that we're passionate about. And then based on that, then figuring out, okay, what
290. 55:25tools should I be exploring? What areas should I be poking down and running down? Because all that shit's going to keep changing. So,
291. 55:40which I know if you're trying to build something that's like a really shitty thing to say, but I think it's a weird
292. 55:46time. I talked to Mike Lavine from Movie Flow today. He and I check in every every few weeks and and we talked today and it's like,
293. 55:57you know, he's in the middle of building a tool that allows creative filmmakers to have a level of control over their AI creations,
294. 56:15which is necessary right now because the AI movie making tools suck so bad. [laughter] They just do. It's bad character
295. 56:24consistency and it's bad continuity and it's unpredictability and it's everything's right except for that bird
296. 56:30looks like a fire truck, you know, [laughter] and you're like, I just want to make the bird not a fire truck and it [ __ ] up
297. 56:36the whole rest of your movie, right? Like we're just in a weird ass thing. Well, when when all that [ __ ] gets fixed,
298. 56:47how does he adapt to that as a business? Like, how quickly is he going to toss out tools that in 2025 were absolutely
299. 56:58necessary and mid 2026 may not be? I think that's something we're going to all have to confront, which is there's a
300. 57:06part of me that's just like, "Oh my god, that's [ __ ] exhausting. >> [laughter] >> I just got this thing figured out. Now I
301. 57:15got to learn the next one. And the answer is yes. If you want to keep playing in the game, right? If you want to keep playing in
302. 57:23the game, it's just that's the [ __ ] deal. Yeah, it's the [ __ ] deal. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
303. 57:31As an indie filmmaker, an indie filmmaker is wondering about AI translation tools for subtitles, but I think even that is something
304. 57:40At least they figured out hands. Yeah, exactly. Achilles standing. What's happening? I get that too with documents like the
305. 57:50trunk in your Nova. The irregulars are three years in. We know that we don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I You know what's funny? I I was when
306. 58:04when I was talking with Andy and and Liz today like one of the things that struck me there there's some things are really easy to say like
307. 58:16it's really easy to say be curious and play if you're in survival mode. It's really hard to be curious and play
308. 58:24because you're in survival mode. I think another one I think another one another word that's kind of like curious
309. 58:33be curious is be adaptable. Embrace adaptability. And I like I say that and I think that I think that
310. 58:43adaptability is probably going to be the single greatest attribute you can have to to be successful over the next 5 years cuz
311. 58:53just shit's going to change so much. But like adaptability what it means [laughter] is that on a regular basis you have to
312. 59:07suffer these ego deaths where like maybe you built this really cool tool. I I remember like we as a group of irregulars, we went through a
313. 59:18whole ego death together and it and it I'll tell you what, the the GPT for good event, the reason we didn't have a second GPT
314. 59:30for good event is because Sam Alman [ __ ] lied to us. [laughter] Sam Alman said, "If you learn how to
315. 59:38make GPTs, it's going to be awesome. I'm going to make you a store and you're going to be able to sell these things
316. 59:44and these are going to be the best things in the history of the planet. And we're like, cool. And it was like it was November of 20
317. 59:53three that those things came out. And so we went and we made we've [ __ ] did GPT for good. We built GPTs for
318. 1:00:03nonprofits. It was insane. It was crazy. And then they just [ __ ] forgot about the store. They just dropped it. They
319. 1:00:11didn't give a [ __ ] They're moving on. They've raised their $10 billion, [laughter] right? And so, what do you do? Well, you move on.
320. 1:00:24But like it wasn't not painful. Like there like there's a lot of people in this community that built hundreds of GPTs.
321. 1:00:35My hair is suffering an ego death. [laughter] Right. I'm glamping. [laughter] You're You're glamping and watching the
322. 1:00:50AI learning lab. Well, I'm glad my hair could rise to the occasion. Get it? See? See how it's But adaptability is really hard because
323. 1:01:00what adaptability means is you have to you have to be in the game and build something knowing knowing that it's going to be irrelevant in
324. 1:01:13somewhere between 3 weeks and eight months [laughter] just is. And like not only like irrelevant like maybe like completely
325. 1:01:23useless because some new thing came along that replaced it or just did the thing the problem that you solved is now
326. 1:01:29just solved in a much more elegant way because of AI. That's not easy, right? How do you deal with that? Well, this is again why we're
327. 1:01:39going back to this idea of creating a daily practice around how you use AI. Because if your purpose, if how you think about AI is much more
328. 1:01:52about your intentionality, I think it's going to be bit easier to go, okay, I'm going to let that go. I'm
329. 1:01:59going to let that go. I'm going to let because this thing's still here and now I can do that thing better or different
330. 1:02:04with these new tools. I'm going to let that one go. If you get caught up in the tools, then you go along with them. That sucks.
331. 1:02:11Your hair is amazing. [laughter] YouTube comment. Fabiana, thank you for acknowledging survival mode. Sometimes I'm here just for the
332. 1:02:21chatter. Yeah. Yeah. I think I I I think we're all we're all going through some [ __ ] This this has been an intense
333. 1:02:33year. It's been an intense year. And I think 2026 is probably going to get more intense. And so what do we do? Well,
334. 1:02:47part of what we do is what we're doing here. Side hustle Mimi or Mimi 369 um reaching out to Source Camp asking how she's doing. Um
335. 1:03:01you know, Brandon making the thing for SNAP recipients. Um that could make a difference in people's lives. So, I
336. 1:03:08think part of it is just being in community. Um, but [snorts] yeah, I mean, listen, if if if me being silly night after
337. 1:03:18night or like tonight I'm not being silly at all. I'm just being like philosophical. I don't even know if I'm
338. 1:03:22making any [ __ ] sense tonight for for what it's worth. I'm just sitting here self-editing going, "What the [ __ ] are you even saying?"
339. 1:03:31Um, [clears throat] but if nothing else, this gives us a little time to like just not be in like I had a really intense day today. You
340. 1:03:41know those days? Have you ever had those days where it's like you have a bunch of things to do but they're all for different projects
341. 1:03:50and then every one of them requires a different mental model? Like I started out this morning with a really incredible meeting about Sydney,
342. 1:04:01my musical that was invented here, right in real time, March 19th, 2023. Go watch the video. You can watch the the birth the moment
343. 1:04:15a musical was was the little OAM and the sperm came together. squit [laughter] and like you can actually watch it be born.
344. 1:04:26And so I I had that that was my first meeting. And then the next one was about story vine and it was it was all intense
345. 1:04:31and we had to figure a bunch of [ __ ] out. And then the next one was it was just everyone was a different mental
346. 1:04:36model. And then in between that people were calling me, hey, I just wanted to talk and brainstorm and like like my head hurts.
347. 1:04:46And [snorts] so maybe like why I can't really function tonight is my brain is just [ __ ] mush. [snorts] But
348. 1:05:01it's important in my life to show up for this. I didn't realize, you know, what's funny and [ __ ] up.
349. 1:05:14When when Liz first brought up the idea of creating a daily practice as as part of what she said is who I respect in the
350. 1:05:23salon and and who's doing really good work in AI, like have a daily practice that involves AI. And the minute she said it, I got
351. 1:05:36like envious. I'm like, oh yeah, there's people that have like a daily practice. Like I envy that. [laughter]
352. 1:05:45Like I was completely divorced from the fact that I show up here night after night after night. Like I have a daily
353. 1:05:52practice. It's called the AI learning lab, right? And you have a daily you are regulars that show up here night after
354. 1:05:58night have have a daily practice. You show up here, you engage, right? Or or you lurk. Like I don't give a [ __ ] if
355. 1:06:04you show up here and never say a [ __ ] thing. I'm sure there are a bunch of you on this call right now who've never said
356. 1:06:10a thing, but you show up here. Absolutely respect that. But it was like when she said that, the the fact that I
357. 1:06:17was like, I want to have a practice. I was like envious of it. And I was like, oh, I've got one, but I never thought
358. 1:06:24about it like that. Like I just like what's weird about this channel is I committed to doing this for a year,
359. 1:06:31seven days a week for a year, and I've backed it down to five. But it was just a blind commitment. It was just a commitment to say if I put
360. 1:06:40two or three hours a night into talking about AI, it's got to serve me in some way. And so I'm going to do it for a year. So it was
361. 1:06:53just a blind commitment. [sighs] And this past year, I've been a bit lost because I didn't really acknowledge that it was
362. 1:07:08a daily like it was in some ways it was a mindless daily practice. It was just more of a habit. And so the minute she said that and I
363. 1:07:18realized, oh, this is a practice that I show up here as a practice. That you show up here as a practice. what we do here is a practice. Um,
364. 1:07:30and that is uh that's a big gift to me because because now I start to think about, okay, well, what happens if I
365. 1:07:38actually start to get really intentional about what we do here. Hasn't happened yet, [laughter] but but it's important. But anyway, so
366. 1:07:47tomorrow night starting at 5:00 p. a.m. Mountain time we have our monthly AI salon presents meeting and what we're presenting so
367. 1:07:58normally what we present is a speaker a person a human being and tomorrow what we're talking about is this idea of a daily practice. So, I
368. 1:08:10want you to come to the AI salon and we're going to talk about this thing that we've put together called the AI salon mastermind practice
369. 1:08:20and then um the practice lab. And the practice lab is a subscription area of the salon where you're going to hang out
370. 1:08:29with other people working on their practice where you can design your daily practice. And we're putting some
371. 1:08:35structure around that. It's it's incredibly powerful. And what's what's amazing about this is over the past two
372. 1:08:41weeks or so as I've been talking about this, every time I mention it to someone, I'm like, "Hey, I'm you know,
373. 1:08:47I've got this new idea and we're kicking this around." People's jaws drop open. They're like, "Oh my god, that's so
374. 1:08:54powerful. That's so amazing." I don't quite get why it's so profound to people, but like it's blowing
375. 1:09:03people's minds because I think a lot of people like there there's a lot of you know this joke >> you can make money with.
376. 1:09:12>> The reason I made this and the reason of that joke is when ChatGpt first came out there was a bunch of grifters that were
377. 1:09:18like I know better than you do and you know if you buy my stupid [ __ ] course you can make money with chat GBT. I
378. 1:09:24think we're in wave three of those idiots where it's the same people making the same shitty videos, but now they're
379. 1:09:31like, you know, I've got the perfect prompt that, you know, if you're not using my prompt recipe, you're not doing
380. 1:09:36jack. It's the same [ __ ] right? Um, and so I think I think people are appropriately weary of [ __ ]
381. 1:09:48Um, and so when I've been talking about putting humans at the center of a practice that uses AI and leading with the humanity,
382. 1:10:00it's landing for people like a really big deal. So anyway, so tomorrow night, Liz and I are going to walk you through
383. 1:10:07what that is, what it's going to be. Um, Liz is going to talk about how she does that. I'm going to talk about how I do
384. 1:10:14that. And then we're going to have people from the community like five minutes each talk about what does that
385. 1:10:20mean for them? What does it mean to have a daily practice? And uh it's going to I think it's going to be quite powerful and quite moving.
386. 1:10:27So So if you don't know if you're not part of the AI salon, go to the salon.ai and you can read about who we are, what
387. 1:10:36we do, see some of the upcoming events and you can join the community. Um but you can also see those events and RSVP
388. 1:10:43for them. Um, so go do that. So, so come tomorrow night. Can I be one of those shameless that's going to sell a guide or two? Yeah.
389. 1:10:52Well, listen, no [ __ ] shade on people out there trying to make a living and sell guides and things like that. It's
390. 1:10:58just the I think it's a little disingenuous to to the the people that are like, I've got the answers like you're you're an AI dum
391. 1:11:09dum and I'm I'm the AI genius and I'm only going to give you the answers if you pay me money. It feels a bit
392. 1:11:17predatory to me. So, I just don't like it. I just don't like it. But I don't I don't begrudge them for making money,
393. 1:11:24but I feel like there's a it's the messaging that I just [ __ ] hate. Yeah, [laughter] I promise I'll make it
394. 1:11:31substantive and and encouraging. Listen, go for it. And honest to God, man, if if you've got the [ __ ] fortitude to >> you,
395. 1:11:40>> to talk like that and sell like that, more power to you. It's [clears throat] just I'm not gonna buy your [ __ ] [laughter]
396. 1:11:49Vicky Baptist, I am so over prompt structures. There you go. I'll tell you what, Vicky Baptist, I guarantee you, I
397. 1:11:57promise you, she has probably tried every prompt structure out there. And it's like there is no oneizefits-all
398. 1:12:06for for this AI stuff. There's just there can't be. There's too many of them. There's too many different
399. 1:12:10approaches. There's too many different interfaces, too many different models. Like again, what it comes back to is
400. 1:12:17you. What are you trying to accomplish? And if you don't understand what you're trying to accomplish, that's where
401. 1:12:24that's where there's some work to do because it's not you're not going to find that from the next great tool.
402. 1:12:31You're only going to find that from yourself. I wrote a blog post about it. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. [clears throat] There's one size for
403. 1:12:40sure. I do many iterations and still get pretty cool results. That's cool. I'm trying to get the fearful to dive in and try.
404. 1:12:51Good. Do that. But again, make sure if if [clears throat] you're really just trying to explore,
405. 1:13:08make sure you've got space in your mind to be able to be curious and and let stuff just be like remove expectations
406. 1:13:15and remove like I have to learn to do this thing. That's such a different mental model than just I'm just going to go play and
407. 1:13:26explore. Like if you've never coded before and you just go to lovable.dev and you just type in a single sentence, I want
408. 1:13:36an app that does X and then sit back and watch what it does [laughter] like with no expectations. And then when it gives you something, if
409. 1:13:50it's cool, great. And then you can iterate on that and build on that and do things like that. But if you go in there
410. 1:13:57like, I've got to learn this thing and you go watch all the YouTube videos and you get all the prompts and you go write
411. 1:14:03your product specification document and chat GPT and you bring it over to Claude to create a software spec and you take
412. 1:14:10that spec and put it into Lovable and you're expecting it to be a scalable SAS app within an hour. You're going to
413. 1:14:18smash your face into your computer. [laughter] At least I would. It's going to be miserable, right? So, so find those distinctions of
414. 1:14:28when you're in these different modes. The play mode requires some space. It requires some not knowing. It requires you being okay with
415. 1:14:40ambiguity. create excellence is about okay now I know what I want to create and I know that I've learned some things up here in
416. 1:14:48the play area but now I'm going to focus that's a completely different mental model [snorts] recognize that those are different
417. 1:14:57[clears throat] and I think it'll help I think it'll help you I think with the learning thing right when especially when you're learning Um
418. 1:15:12[gasps] especially when you're learning something, you know those things that you discover later in life.
419. 1:15:26I I was talking about Joy Perie earlier where she what she discovered later in life was I've always had these I've had
420. 1:15:34these stories I've wanted to tell all my life and now there's this thing I can do it there there was within her there was
421. 1:15:43this gap of skills and technical knowledge and experience. There was a gap there, but but in that gap was this ache.
422. 1:15:57And so I actually just started an article called, you know, [clears throat] do you know your aching gaps?
423. 1:16:06Those gaps in your humanity where you're like, I know I can't do this thing. It's this gap in my skill set, in my
424. 1:16:13knowledge set, but I want to do something there. And it aches. You're like, "Damn it, I wish I was good at
425. 1:16:19that." For me, it's like I wish I were I wish I were like natively better at music and I'm just not right. And yet,
426. 1:16:29I'm working on a musical right now. Like AI came in and it filled in some some weird lack that I had that was this aching gap.
427. 1:16:43And that's something that we all now get to explore and fill. Kruno, what this daily practice has reaped is I have an AI job. Yeah.
428. 1:16:55Without any um smack of intimidation. Yeah. Because you know what's funny, Chris, is why you're not intimidated is that becau
429. 1:17:10because of the daily practice. You know you're putting in the time, right? You know you're smart and capable. You're smart and capable at
430. 1:17:19your at your day job, right? The the prei day job. You know what that is. And you use AI enough to know, okay,
431. 1:17:29there's some things it's good at. There's some things it's not good at. But like someone comes in and they says,
432. 1:17:35"Oh, I'm an AI expert." Like you're going to be like, "Are you?" [laughter] Cuz I do this every [ __ ] day. And I'm
433. 1:17:44pretty certain you're not because I don't think you can be like like I feel like, you know, there's something about
434. 1:17:50doing it daily that is just like, you know, kind of where the boundaries of it are. And so because of that, you can
435. 1:17:56kind of sniff out [ __ ] and you can like why would you be intimidated? Like you'll just figure it out or some problem comes
436. 1:18:07along that you're like, "Oh, I haven't tried to solve that with AI. I can do that. Let me just let me try to solve
437. 1:18:13that problem with AI." Nope. Still doesn't work, right? You know, that's super cool. Super cool. Love that. >> [snorts] >> Kyle is salaryi.
438. 1:18:27[laughter] Nice. [snorts] Hey. So, so I'm seeing some back and
439. 1:18:42forth here with Mimi and Enjoy Perie about being intimidated by some of the tools. I will share with you in fall of 2022.
440. 1:18:57I've talked about this on this channel before, so if you've been if you've been here for a while, you've heard this. In fall of 2022,
441. 1:19:04I decided I wanted to make some AI images and and you know, MidJourney kind of sucked at this point or might not have even been
442. 1:19:13on the scene. Stable diffusion was was the tool, right? But you had to install it. You had to go to GitHub. There was a
443. 1:19:22GitHub repository and then there were like installer scripts and then there was a there was this thing called Google
444. 1:19:29Collab which was Google virtual machines. And so you would go to GitHub and you would get this thing and then
445. 1:19:36you would go into the Collab notebook and then you had to press these play buttons and when you press the play
446. 1:19:44buttons it would execute code. So basically what it was was people would pre-write a series of scripts for you
447. 1:19:51and literally turn them into play buttons, right? That was it in theory. And so what I would do is I would like [ __ ] [clears throat]
448. 1:20:05jin up the courage quite frankly to like go, "Oh god, I got to go read manuals." Like I hate reading manuals more than
449. 1:20:12anything on the planet. And so I would go and I would either like I forget where I went. I think I would go to
450. 1:20:19Reddit and on Reddit they would say, "Okay, there's a new version of Stable Diffusion and Dream Booth and it's super
451. 1:20:26easy. You click on this link and then you just hit the play buttons and before you know it, you're making magic."
452. 1:20:33And so I would go cool. And then I would go there and I would go to my [ __ ] Google Collab thing and I would see all
453. 1:20:39these play buttons and I'd go play and I go and I go play and I go and I go play and I go error. [ __ ] I didn't know what the error was. I
454. 1:20:51didn't know how to fix it. I didn't know how to read it. It was just a fail. Nine times. Nine times I went through that cycle of like
455. 1:21:07feeling like an idiot, getting over the hump of, okay, how do you do this again? Okay, I got to get the the notebook. What's a notebook
456. 1:21:14again? How does it work? Hit the play buttons, errors. And at some point, I figured out, all right, let me see if I
457. 1:21:21can figure out this error. And and I did something. I don't know. And I actually solved one of the errors. And then
458. 1:21:27another one showed up nine different times. a complete [ __ ] failure. And then on the ninth time, or maybe the
459. 1:21:35tenth time, I got stable diffusion working and I could make images. And then I had to install Dream Booth, which
460. 1:21:43was another series of [ __ ] play buttons in this stupid [ __ ] collab thing that I had to install it. And and
461. 1:21:50somehow through that I eventually kind of in my non-technical brain kind of understood that there were some files
462. 1:21:57that lived in Google Drive and I could reuse some of those file structures. It was just it was ridiculously complicated
463. 1:22:06and and you know tech people are like well it's really quite trivial. It's well the thing about a notebook it's
464. 1:22:12just a series of scripts and and you just hit the play button and it executes the scripts and then if there's an error
465. 1:22:17of course you just track down the error and right like engineers were like why are you being such a [ __ ] [ __ ]
466. 1:22:25they weren't [clears throat] no one actually said that to me but in my mind they were [laughter] because because
467. 1:22:33I've heard people I've heard paint say oh it's it's trivial to do a Google notebook thing it's trivial unless it
468. 1:22:41breaks and you don't know how to fix it. So, if you're feeling if you're feeling like, "Oh my god, I don't want to go
469. 1:22:48into this. I'm feeling like an idiot." I that's just part of the adaptability thing. I think it's just part of if you
470. 1:22:55really want to get to the other side of understanding how to vibe code or how to do one of these things or in in Joy
471. 1:23:02Party's case, understanding Da Vinci Resolve, an incredibly sophisticated video editing tool. and you're just
472. 1:23:09gonna have to go through some [ __ ] But we, you know, listen, we now happen to live in a world where we now have chat
473. 1:23:15GPT where you can literally say, "Hey, I feel like an idiot. Help me through this." And it will do it.
474. 1:23:22Create a country cover of Guns and Roses song, Welcome to the Jungle and Sunno, just for the fun of it. I can do that.
475. 1:23:28Let's go do that. I mean, that'll be easy. There there's so many of those things on TikTok right now. Although,
476. 1:23:34you know what? I can't Oh, I would. No, I'm not going to do it right now because I have to go find the song and then I
477. 1:23:39don't know what the if if they've got any rights blockers in there or anything like that. But anyway, that's a good one
478. 1:23:44to go do. It it'll definitely do that. That's a cool thing. All right. Um or you can just watch Joyy's LOL on Da
479. 1:23:55Vinci Resolve. Awesome. That's great. Um [clears throat] All right, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.
480. 1:24:12Was this at all useful tonight? [laughter] I don't know what I said. Chef Kelly, remember when Chat GPT used
481. 1:24:23to hallucinate and tell you it could perform tasks it couldn't? Yeah, exactly. Oh, wait. That still happens. [laughter] It's so true.
482. 1:24:34side hustle Mimi. Yes, it was valuable. Um, what vibe coder did you use? Oh, back back in 2022. There there was no
483. 1:24:43vibe coder back then. Um, [snorts] my first experience with vibe coding was the week after chat GBT came out. I
484. 1:24:50wrote a I wrote a Python application that made API calls to OpenAI. It was pretty cool. Um, definitely valuable.
485. 1:24:59All right. You all are just you're all irregulars. You're of course going to say nice things. Actually, the irregulars, I think you're
486. 1:25:07all salty enough now that if this is a waste of time, you'd be like, "Ah, we'll be here tomorrow. You can you can pick
487. 1:25:12up the pieces." [laughter] Um, the the vibe coding tool that I am I am most enamored with right now is lovable. Um, just because every other
488. 1:25:28vibe coding tool right now still requires you to be a developer. It still develop it like like cursor still
489. 1:25:36requires you to understand what a GitHub repository is and you've got to push and pull things from your GitHub repo.
490. 1:25:45So long as you're pushing and pulling things from your GitHub repo and saying words like that in a sentence together,
491. 1:25:52assuming that anyone knows what the [ __ ] you're talking about means it's still too complicated. [laughter]
492. 1:26:00And and again, it's not too complicated for people that are that want to be a developer, but it's too complicated for the 98.5%
493. 1:26:10of people who are not that to some degree. And that's what Lovable's attempting to do is to just say just come here. We'll take care of
494. 1:26:19you. We'll take care of the security. We'll take care of database setup. We'll take care of web server setup. We'll
495. 1:26:25take care of domain um DNS management. We'll take care of user authentication and we'll take care of the building your
496. 1:26:35application. And we'll take care of the interface design. We'll do it all. You just tell us what you want. That's what
497. 1:26:40they're attempting to do. They're the closest right now in my opinion to pulling that off. Um I think there I
498. 1:26:48think 2026 we will we will have dozens dozens of tools that are that are lovable class or better. Um and
499. 1:26:58hopefully Lovable, you know, stays in the lead. I think they're they're a really smart company. I uh I am
500. 1:27:05technically a lovable ambassador, but I would talk about them even if I wasn't. Um, but that's why I'm so bullish on them is because like
501. 1:27:16they clearly recognize that there's a market here for for non-technical people to be developers. And developers [ __ ] all over
502. 1:27:29that idea. Well, you know, it's not scalable. Like every time every time I post a [ __ ] lovable app, they're
503. 1:27:35like, "Well, you know, this thing's not scalable. That's, you know, it's it's full of security holes. I got your
504. 1:27:41social security number, you big fat losser. Yeah. Like, I know. I know. I don't care. I don't care. I made an app.
505. 1:27:48Can I just Can I just celebrate the joy of having created an app without having any coding knowledge for like
506. 1:27:57five minutes before you [ __ ] all over me? [laughter] You [ __ ] propeller head. >> [laughter] >> Oh my god. Right.
507. 1:28:14Just let us have a little [ __ ] joy. Oh, I made this song that I'm really happy with. It'll never have the soul of
508. 1:28:24a human. Okay. All right. Could I just enjoy the fact that this song makes me happy? No. It's theft. You're a
509. 1:28:33talentless [ __ ] loser. Okay. All right. Can I just have like two minutes to enjoy my song before you evviscerate?
510. 1:28:42No. Okay. All right. No, that's good. That's solid. That's solid. [laughter] [snorts] Seriously, your laughter is pure happiness.
511. 1:28:52[laughter] My laughter at my pain. I can't believe the article that I wrote on Chain of Craft where I just got
512. 1:29:02eviscerated on LinkedIn. God, I got eviscerated. Literally all I was saying was when you produce something with AI, there's a bunch of steps
513. 1:29:17that are not the AI and that we should acknowledge even for ourselves that my contribution here was more than
514. 1:29:27just pressing a button. My contribution here was this chain of craft where I thought about the idea and I thought
515. 1:29:32about the prompt and then it generated some [ __ ] that I didn't like and then I modified the prompt and then I and then
516. 1:29:37out came this thing that I liked. Holy [ __ ] did I get eviscerated for that? How dare you use an AI tool, you talentless piece of poop.
517. 1:29:49[laughter] Oh man. All right, I'm leaving. Anyway, enjoy your creations [laughter] for the for the 38.2 seconds that you
518. 1:30:04can enjoy them before people yell at you and tell you what a piece of [ __ ] you are for using AI. [laughter] Or,
519. 1:30:13you know, do stuff like what Brandon did. Make a thing using AI that just says, "Hey, if you're struggling with
520. 1:30:21something, I made a thing for you. Hope this helps. because that's not about AI. That's about a human being that gives a
521. 1:30:32[ __ ] about other human beings. And you shift the conversation. And that's that's what this whole thing about being
522. 1:30:39in an AI practice is about or being in a practice using AI. It's what it's all about is figuring out what's the
523. 1:30:46difference we want to make in the world. That's what the salon that's where we're going to take this [ __ ] salon. We're
524. 1:30:51going to take this community. So, I want you to do me a favor. How many people are here? 30 people here, 40 people on YouTube.
525. 1:30:59My request to you tonight is what's tonight? Tonight's Monday. My request to you all tonight, and I don't ask for much. I don't think I ever
526. 1:31:10ask for anything. I mean, I ask you to come to [ __ ] and occasionally, you know, go consider subscribing to something,
527. 1:31:16but I don't really ask for anything. My request is that you come to the salon tomorrow night. The salon presents. My
528. 1:31:26request is that you invite someone. If they can't come, they can't come. But then you invite them. And if they can't
529. 1:31:33come to the salon tomorrow night, have them come to the learning lab after the salon. So, we'll be here tomorrow night
530. 1:31:40as well. And then for every night this week, invite someone new. I'd like to ex start to expand this circle because I think the stuff that
531. 1:31:51we're up to is actually quite important. I don't know how to talk about it yet. It feels awkward and weird,
532. 1:31:58but it feels really important. Okay. So, so think about who in your life might enjoy this, might benefit from
533. 1:32:11this, might have the aptitude for it, might might have the interest in leveling up their game. Not just their
534. 1:32:19AI game, leveling leveling up their game because that's what we're talking about. This has got nothing to do with AI. The
535. 1:32:27stuff that I'm talking about, the stuff that I'm excited about is about us as human beings getting better and using AI
536. 1:32:35as [ __ ] rocket fuel for that. And apparently not a lot of people are thinking about that because people are getting really
537. 1:32:45excited about it when I talk about it. All right, cool. Peace out. 5:00 tomorrow night, AI Salon. Be there mountain time. So, 7
538. 1:32:55o'clock Eastern, 4 o'clock Pacific. All right, peace out. Hope you have a good night and I will talk to you tomorrow.