
AI Learning Lab
4/8/2026 - Preserving Family History with AI Generated Recipe Books and Digital Stories

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Mid Week Madness in the world of AI
Kyle and Brandon dive into the world of "vibe coding" to showcase how natural language is transforming app development through projects like Recipe-Kin and VibeGreeting. Brandon explains how these tools use the Gemini multimodal API to preserve family legacies by turning old stories and handwritten cards into professional cookbooks. The pair demonstrates the power of rapid iteration, showing how bugs can be identified and patched in minutes rather than weeks.
The discussion expands to the broader AI landscape as Kyle tests ChatGPT’s new "thinking" modes and navigates the complexities of agentic browsing. They explore the shifting nature of marketing, noting that as technical execution becomes easier, the human element becomes the primary differentiator for new brands. This session provides a practical look at how creators are using accessible AI tools to build, test, and launch products at high speeds.
#VibeCoding,#AI,#RecipeKin,#ChatGPT,#GeminiAPI,#SoftwareDevelopment,#Innovation,#AITools
Chapters:
00:00:00 Musical Opening
00:03:24 Community Greetings
00:05:36 Emotional Reflections
00:08:13 AI Project Intro
00:10:16 Recipe App Origin
00:13:01 Print on Demand
00:15:16 Testing YouTube Imports
00:17:53 Development Speed Comparisons
00:19:51 Upcoming AI Sprint
00:21:30 Vibe Coding Reality
00:23:53 Successful Recipe Generation
00:26:51 Breaking Software Quickly
00:29:14 App Security Hardening
00:32:03 Family Avatar Concepts
00:34:59 Event Assembly Lines
00:37:42 Vibe Greeting Project
00:41:47 Marketing AI Deliverables
00:45:07 Interface Design Feedback
00:48:05 ChatGPT Interface Review
00:51:13 Agent Mode Testing
00:53:31 Perplexity Hackathon News
00:55:31 AI Music Tools
00:59:36 Testing Agentic Browsers
01:03:26 Marketing Service Brands
01:12:39 Collaborative Hackathon Teams
Chapters
0:00Musical Opening3:24Community Greetings5:36Emotional Reflections8:13AI Project Intro10:16Recipe App Origin13:01Print on Demand15:16Testing YouTube Imports17:53Development Speed Comparisons19:51Upcoming AI Sprint21:30Vibe Coding Reality23:53Successful Recipe Generation26:51Breaking Software Quickly29:14App Security Hardening32:03Family Avatar Concepts34:59Event Assembly Lines37:42Vibe Greeting Project41:47Marketing AI Deliverables45:07Interface Design Feedback48:05ChatGPT Interface Review51:13Agent Mode Testing53:31Perplexity Hackathon News55:31AI Music Tools59:36Testing Agentic Browsers1:03:26Marketing Service Brands1:12:39Collaborative Hackathon Teams
Transcript
0:18 You want this? 0:19 You want that, Champy? Come on. 0:22 Come lay down. 0:24 Come lay down. 0:28 Are you going to Are you going to sing 0:29 for me tonight? Are we going to sing? 0:46 Hallelujah. 0:51 David played and it pleased the Lord. 0:54 You don't really care for music, do you? 1:00 Who's black is the fourth fulfilled? 1:04 A minor fall and a major lift. 1:07 The baffled king composing 1:09 Hallelujah. 1:13 Hallelujah. 1:16 Hallelujah. 1:19 Hallelujah. 1:22 Hallelujah. 1:26 Hallelujah. 1:32 Well, your faith was strong but you 1:34 needed a proof. 1:36 She saw her bathing on the roof. 1:38 Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew 1:42 you. 1:45 She tied you to the kitchen chair. She 1:48 smashed your throne and cut your hair 1:51 from your lips. Shadrach. 1:54 Hallelujah. 1:57 Hallelujah. 2:00 Hallelujah. 2:03 Hallelujah. 2:06 Hallelujah. 2:10 Oh, yeah. 2:22 Same way suit and tie. Does he work at 2:26 the Dairy Queen? 2:28 Does he listen to rock and roll? Does he 2:31 feed the mean singing Hallelujah. 2:36 Hallelujah. 2:38 Hallelujah. 2:41 Hallelujah. 2:45 What about Jesus? 2:47 Don't need a tutor, yeah. Hang out with 2:51 the prostitute. 2:53 Just have a drink, too. 2:55 Public example of what mama said it in a 2:58 hymn. She said one ounce of action 3:02 beats a ton of words. 3:05 Singing Hallelujah. 3:07 Mama said there would be angels. 3:10 Hallelujah. 3:12 Mama said there would be sun. Yeah, 3:15 yeah. 3:22 Happy Wednesday, good people of the 3:24 TikTok. 3:26 Two people. 3:28 Valerie and Silverfox. 3:33 Welcome. 3:35 It'll be an intimate gathering tonight. 4:40 >> I love dogs joined. 4:42 You like Champy? 4:44 You love Champy. Champy's the best. 4:54 That Champy is one good doggy. 4:59 He's a lover. 5:01 Are you a lover, Champy? 5:17 Is this place 5:19 I can rest my forehead? 5:25 Gather my thoughts in sweet silence. 5:33 And is this place where the feelings are 5:37 laid? 5:40 From an old exposure to violence. 5:45 This is place I can slowly face the only 5:50 one I truly can know. 5:54 These tears from a long time ago. 5:58 I got these tears from a long time ago. 6:02 I need to cry 30 years of soul. 6:07 I got these tears from a long 6:09 time ago. 6:13 go. 6:30 Table for three tonight? 6:36 Hello Danielle. 8:10 >> All right. Let's get working on the old 8:14 AI here. What is happening? What is 8:17 happening on the AI? 8:20 Um 8:25 no recipes yet. 8:29 So, I want to show something fun. Might 8:31 as well start out with something fun. 8:36 Crawford's in the house. What's 8:38 happening, Sharon? What's going down? 8:41 Archetypal's in the house. We got 8:42 Valerie, got Todd Waller, 8:45 producer Brandon, of course, Danielle, 8:50 Silver Fox, Eric Trung. 8:54 Welcome, everybody. 8:57 Let's go ahead. 9:03 So, if you point your browser to 9:10 recipe 9:14 Well, that came on strong, that little 9:16 yawn. 9:17 recipe-kin 9:21 .com 9:23 What this cool thing is 9:25 So, I think this was a Brandon, do you 9:27 want to talk about this? Like the origin 9:29 of this was in life hacks, right? 9:33 That is correct. You want to tell us 9:36 like the origin story of it? 9:38 Yeah, we were playing around with 9:40 Lovable last year and uh 9:43 Yeah, last year it was it was last fall 9:45 and uh 9:47 I just kind of threw it out to the group 9:48 is anybody have any ideas and and Gwen 9:51 said 9:53 you know, what if we had a app that 9:55 preserved people's recipes, but not just 9:58 the recipes like the story behind it. 10:00 You know, like your grandmother used to 10:01 tell that story while she made the 10:05 uh made the information or made the 10:07 recipe. There's all that history in 10:10 there and what what if we captured that 10:12 and turned that into a virtual cookbook. 10:16 And such the idea was born and 10:20 we played around with it for a few 10:21 months 10:22 and we got it to the point where we're 10:24 pretty comfortable that it was going to 10:26 turn into something. 10:28 And then 10:29 about uh a month ago Gwen says, "Hey, I 10:32 signed up for an event at my 10:34 congregation mid-April and we're going 10:36 to sign up a bunch of people. It'll be 10:38 ready by then, right?" I said, "Yeah, 10:40 sure. Why not?" 10:43 And so uh So did you So you just went 10:46 off and vibe coded it or was it already 10:48 started? 10:49 No, we we we started in Chat GPT and 10:51 they we iterated on it and um 10:54 came up with a concept and then took 10:56 that into Lovable and ran with it. Huh. 10:59 And did you Was it like a like it was 11:01 like a a website in Chat GPT that you 11:04 coded or you were just describing it 11:06 there? No, we were just iterating the 11:08 idea of we knew it was going to be a 11:10 Lovable site and so 11:13 we basically distilled the idea down 11:16 inside of Chat GPT and ideated on it and 11:19 got it down to kind of a a Lovable 11:20 prompt and then took that prompt into 11:23 Lovable and started from there. That's 11:25 very cool. That's very cool. 11:28 I dig it. I dig it. I dig it. I 11:31 dig it. 11:33 As the initial recipe idea has evolved, 11:39 we took it from just video submissions 11:42 to now you can do video, audio, visual, 11:47 or YouTube. 11:48 >> So, you've got four different types of 11:51 uploads. 11:52 >> You can upload like a handwritten recipe 11:53 card. That's cool. Yep. 11:55 Audio or YouTube. Nice. 11:59 And then from there it uses the Gemini 12:03 multimodal API to analyze the content 12:06 Uh-huh. 12:07 >> and come up with the recipe card. 12:09 That's very cool. So, when is 12:12 When is Gwen's event? Did she already 12:13 have it? Uh no, it's coming up on the 12:15 18th. So, Oh, wow. we encourage all of 12:19 our regulars to hop over and beta test 12:22 it and give us feedback so we can make 12:24 sure that we uh that it's working. 12:27 putting our best foot forward as we take 12:29 this thing out of beta. Yeah. 12:31 >> And I will tell you we talked about it 12:33 in the Life Hacks Club tonight and we 12:34 already had like four enhancements. 12:36 So, 12:37 >> Well, of course. Like once you start 12:39 something, it's like, "Well, you know 12:40 what else it could do? Well, you know 12:41 what else it could do?" 12:43 Yeah. And the the the most difficult 12:46 part of this was 12:49 around 2 months ago we came this concept 12:52 of well, what if we actually wanted to 12:53 turn this into a 12:56 actual cookbook. 12:58 And so, I tasked GPT with ChatGPT with 13:01 finding out how to do print-on-demand 13:04 one-off small-format books. And it came 13:07 up with a uh 13:09 a third-party partner called Lulu, 13:11 lulu.com, 13:13 that has an API. And I followed the 13:15 instructions and put gave it my API key. 13:19 And once you get to the point where you 13:22 have uh a handful of recipes, you can 13:25 actually order a physical cookbook. 13:28 Wow, really? 13:31 That's pretty cool. 13:33 And in the spirit of bad coding, it 13:36 only took 10 tries of ordering books 13:40 before it Before you can actually order 13:42 a book? Before you can actually order a 13:44 book. And um 13:47 you know, it was I hooked it up to 13:49 Stripe and it was uh 13:52 it was entertaining because 13:55 I got an email from Stripe today that 13:57 says, "Good news. You made $100 in book 14:00 sales." I'm like, "Yeah, that was me. 14:01 That's my money. Give it back." 14:04 Yeah, that's hilarious. 14:06 You're trying to find a recipe? Yeah, 14:08 I'm trying to find a recipe. 14:11 Just like Mom used to make. 14:14 Gluten-free, nut-free. No. No. 14:17 You don't make gluten-free, nut-free 14:19 peanut butter cookies. 14:24 Hillbilly kitchen. I'm trying to get 14:26 just a 14:27 >> Todd Waller on TikTok is logged in and 14:29 looking around. We're going to create 14:31 inside of the AI Life Hacks space a 14:33 place for feedback, but if you see 14:34 anything out of sorts, 14:36 um please email and let me know. And uh 14:42 There we go. 14:43 >> If you check on the Irregulars, 14:45 uh I'm sorry, if you check in Life Hacks 14:47 space, there is a if you do decide to 14:49 get up to 36 pages and you want to 14:51 actually print something, uh there's a 14:53 special promo code that you to a 20% off 14:57 Is it one page per recipe or like you 14:59 got a recipe that spans two pages? 15:02 No, one page per recipe. 15:06 And does the the system control that? It 15:09 It keeps the text below a page worth? 15:13 Yep. Mhm. Wow, that's cool. Okay, wait. 15:16 Let me go back to here. 15:18 So, I'm going to upload my first video. 15:20 I'm I'm to put in a YouTube URL. 15:23 It's going to be amazing to watch this 15:24 fall on its face and not work cuz we've 15:26 made so many changes to it in the past. 15:29 Yeah, okay. So we got the YouTube video, 15:31 that's good. Yeah, YouTube video's in 15:33 there. Can you play it? Oh, that's a 15:35 that's a bug or a fix. 15:38 You should be able to preview 15:39 >> call that an enhancement. 15:42 It's a bug. 15:45 Who let the angry Gen Xer into the 15:47 office? 15:49 You can't import a YouTube video and not 15:52 be able to play the YouTube video. 15:54 That's a bug. 15:57 You can't do it. You need a angry Gen 15:59 Xer in the corner office for exactly 16:02 this reason. I'm Listen, here's the 16:04 deal. 16:05 Sure, it's humiliating now, but 16:08 it's going to save you headaches in the 16:10 future when this becomes grandma's 16:11 biggest recipe bucket. 16:14 All right, here we go. How quick is it? 16:16 Is it decently quick? Yeah, it works out 16:19 pretty quick. It takes just a just about 16:21 a minute to analyze it. Generation 16:23 failed. 16:24 Ah, see? Yeah, I told you you'd break 16:27 it. 16:28 This is why we test. This is why we 16:29 test. 16:30 But um 16:33 I want to call out something that Heaven 16:35 knows on AI effects that was pretty 16:36 cool. 16:37 is 16:38 when in her early testing 16:41 figured out that when we displayed the 16:44 um 16:46 information on 16:48 the cookbook 16:50 So even though the generation failed, 16:51 here's what the end result looks like. 16:53 So if you click on view 16:55 Oh, wait. 16:57 Um 16:58 And then you can edit that recipe. 17:02 Oh, cool. 17:03 >> Uh 17:05 >> And you can In case the AI hallucinates 17:08 something that grandma misspoke, you can 17:11 add in 17:13 all of the pertinent details and fill it 17:15 in. It's supposed to be designed to fill 17:16 in the gaps, not write the entire thing, 17:19 but in case of a 17:21 failure 17:22 uh to launch, it it does 17:24 that. 17:25 >> Um but when we were working on this 17:27 >> is a view. Oh, no. 17:30 Oh, yeah. Here's the Here's the Oh, here 17:32 you can play it. Yes. 17:35 There you go. All right. And then if I 17:37 go to edit, it it doesn't reload the the 17:40 YouTube video. 17:42 It should. 17:44 Do you want to just make a list and send 17:46 it to us tomorrow? 17:52 Um but I want to call out something in 17:53 the Life Hacks Club. So, Gwen was 17:55 testing it and one thing she noticed is 17:57 when we generated the pricing, it didn't 18:00 draw out that pricing was 18:04 inclusive of printing 18:06 shipping and handling. It was just 18:08 showing you a price. 18:10 Uh 18:10 >> And so 18:12 we needed to add that in and so I asked 18:14 Lovable to add that in and it added it 18:17 in like the fine print. I'm like, "No, 18:18 no. It needs to be bigger." 18:21 And so I moved it and I made it bigger 18:23 and I said to Gwen, I said, "Like that?" 18:25 cuz we were on uh the meeting together 18:27 and she was, "No. 18:28 We need to make that more pronounced." 18:29 So, I said, "Hey, Lovable. 18:31 I really want to know that this thing is 18:34 you know, inclusive." Inclusive, yeah. 18:36 >> "Absolutely." And it made it bigger and 18:38 it made it perfect and it took maybe 4 18:39 minutes. And I was just thinking, I've 18:41 had a web design company for 20 years. 18:43 The amount of back and forth 18:46 Yeah. 18:46 >> iterations you'd have with a client just 18:48 to move that one line of copy up to the 18:51 right spot was probably 2 weeks of work 18:53 in the early 2000s. Just by you have the 18:57 coders do it, send it back to the client 18:59 for approval, they'd mark it up for 19:00 changes, you'd take it back to the devs, 19:02 they'd swear and throw their coffee cup 19:04 across the wall and say, "No, it's fine 19:06 the way it is." And you're 19:07 right. 19:10 Can't be done. 19:11 >> fixed it. 19:12 This whole process just got condensed 19:14 down into 4 minutes. 19:16 Yeah. I'm actually insufferable when it 19:19 when I get the feedback it can't be 19:20 done. I I have no tolerance for that. 19:24 But if you click on community 19:27 uh at the top, you'll see like the 19:29 classic vanilla recipe cup recipes. This 19:32 is the what a finished recipe looks 19:34 like. So this is my daughter's school 19:36 project that she did. 19:39 So cool. 19:41 And uh and and then you can edit that 19:43 and put the back story in. 19:45 Well, that's cool. recipe-tin.com 19:48 uh 19:49 and then I I guess we should probably 19:52 tell the listeners here 19:54 that if you are intrigued by this 19:58 for mastermind subscribers in the AI 20:00 salon in May, we're going to be doing a 20:03 four-week sprint 20:06 uh for lovable and working with lovable 20:09 coming soon. 20:10 >> That's so cool. 20:13 It'll be starting next month. 20:15 There's such good things going on in 20:16 mastermind. We've got um 20:18 the other thing you should pay attention 20:20 to Andy's um 20:22 workshop on 20:24 um 20:25 unhooking your identity from your job, 20:27 your job from your identity. Um that 20:29 starts on the 14th, I think. So mid next 20:32 week. So if you haven't signed up for 20:34 that and you're in the mastermind, 20:36 please go do that. 20:39 You know, if and if and you want to 20:44 explore that, which I think would be 20:45 fascinating. Like one of the things that 20:47 hit me when we were doing the great 20:48 repurpose stuff when we were coming up 20:50 with it. 20:52 Like in my mind I was like, oh my my 20:54 identity's not tied to my job. And then 20:57 I started thinking about like how I 20:58 introduce myself at parties and it's 21:00 like 21:01 it's totally tied to my job. 21:04 It's totally tied to the stuff I do. And 21:08 uh and that's what we're all going to be 21:09 confronting, which is just wild. 21:13 Um 21:14 Let's go look. If anyone has anything 21:16 they want to talk about, pop that over 21:18 in the 21:19 Rick Olson's in the house. Cheers, 21:21 everyone. Hello, Rick. 21:23 Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. 21:25 And And Aunt Gert uh 21:27 on TikTok, all good. Trying over and 21:29 over again. It's like riding a bike. It 21:30 really is. You know, you have to 21:32 um everybody thinks that AI and vibe 21:35 coding is 21:36 one prompt magic where you just 21:39 Yeah. 21:39 >> type in a prompt and get a response. And 21:41 And it it this is we're all nearly 200 21:46 um prompts in on this project for just 21:49 one site. 21:51 Yeah. 21:52 Yeah. 21:53 And that's, you know, listen, it's it's 21:55 the same HT Snowday was talking about 21:58 this la- last night on the salon that 22:00 it's 22:01 um 22:02 like the the coding part itself happens 22:05 much faster, 22:07 but the curation, like what what we're 22:09 now spending most of our time on is is 22:12 it what we want it to be, which, you 22:14 know, in the end, that's a lot of what 22:15 coding is, too, right? You know, yes, 22:18 that technically works, but it kind of 22:19 sucks. And let's tweak it till it gets 22:21 better. We're just doing that with 22:23 English language right now, which is 22:25 which is very cool. 22:27 Um I'm just looking on on the Twitter to 22:31 see if there's anything interesting. 22:35 All right. And I am uh 22:37 I'm going to duck out here backstage in 22:39 just a minute. But before we do, in the 22:41 spirit of vibe coding, 22:43 if you 22:44 count to 10 22:47 and then go back and uh refresh Recipe 22:51 here. 22:53 Um If I go to recipe 22:55 >> updating the site to to match that. And 22:59 if you grab that URL 23:01 and uh 23:03 go back through and try to create a new 23:04 recipe um 23:07 using that same YouTube video. 23:10 Oh, Lovable seems to think that it's 23:12 fixed all of your concerns. 23:14 Let's see. 23:16 Let's see what it says. 23:19 Nope. 23:23 Mhm. Yep. 23:28 All right, so she's talking now. Let's 23:31 see if we get the 23:33 the big error. 23:38 Generated. 23:39 All right, let's see. 23:45 Mhm. What's the story? 23:52 These classic peanut butter cookies are 23:53 beloved family favorite passed down 23:55 through generations with the perfect 23:56 balance of sweet and savory. 23:59 They're sure to bring a smile to 24:00 everyone's face. 24:02 And I also want to point out that you 24:03 are in editing mode. 24:06 And you can watch the video in editing 24:08 mode, which was another one of your uh 24:10 Yep, that was a gripe. That's been 24:12 fixed. 24:12 >> And you can also change your visibility 24:14 from either private, so it's only 24:16 available to your login, 24:18 or public, or private with a link. So, 24:21 just like Google Docs, you can either 24:23 share it through link or share it 24:26 publicly to the community, or share it 24:29 to everybody. 24:32 All right, there's Grandma's cookies. 24:34 Okay, so here's another you want to you 24:35 want to um 24:37 uh whatchamacallit? 24:39 Uh a gripe? 24:41 Not a gripe. This is not a gripe. This 24:42 is This is a nice-to-have. 24:44 Um either generate or have a thumbnail 24:47 on the on 24:49 all of the recipe cards recipe card. 24:52 Uh-huh. 24:53 And then here's This is a gripe. Um you 24:55 should be able to 24:57 um delete like this is this is a failed 25:00 one, but I can't delete it. If you if 25:03 you go into view it, 25:04 you should be able or edit it, you 25:07 should be able to delete it from the 25:08 editing. My concern we had actually 25:10 actually that was something Yeah, we had 25:11 the trash can in the corner. My I didn't 25:13 want somebody to fat finger recipe 25:15 >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 25:18 Okay, I'm I'm I support that. 25:21 Um dessert cookies so it automatically 25:23 tags it. This is very cool. Add your 25:25 story. 25:30 So cool. 25:34 Half a cup of unsalted butter, 25:37 cup of peanut butter. 25:40 Yep. 25:45 So if I go edit, 25:50 I'm going to say one fork. 25:58 One fork. You got to have a fork. 26:02 I know it's not an ingredient, but it 26:03 is. 26:06 See, using a fork. 26:12 I swear if you cook save and it breaks 26:13 the system, I'm deleting Lovable. 26:18 Save. 26:20 Boom, recipe successfully saved. 26:24 So that's So here here would be a a nice 26:27 to have interface live wise. When you 26:30 save it, it dumps you either into 26:31 preview mode or 26:34 it dumps you into view mode. Probably 26:36 preview mode. 26:39 But that's super cool. 26:42 Looking forward to seeing the rest of 26:43 your feed you and 26:45 Grandma Jean's feedback in the AI Life 26:48 Hacks section of the AI Salon. 26:51 Kyle the hacker. I don't I do have So So 26:55 one of the things that is a I have kind 26:57 of a reputation in Storyvine and I had 26:59 this at agency.com and I had this back 27:02 when I worked for Eastwest Creative. Um 27:06 I can break software within 5 minutes. 27:10 This actually this No nothing here 27:12 really broke. There were just some 27:13 little minor enhancements. Nothing 27:16 really broke, but I'm really good at 27:18 breaking stuff quickly. 27:20 I don't know what it is. I just I I 27:22 think it's cuz of my ADD. I move fast 27:24 and when when you move fast, you do 27:26 things in a different order than 27:28 people that think about [ __ ] 27:31 Yeah, and that is 27:33 um 27:34 the power and 27:38 I guess kryptonite of Lovable is it 27:41 moves at the speed of ADD and Yeah. it 27:46 makes it very hard to 27:49 walk away from projects because 27:52 you could just keep generating, keep 27:54 creating. 27:55 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Keep iterating. 27:58 Yeah. 27:59 Um here's something I thought would be 28:02 interesting to do tonight. 28:06 It seems pretty apparent I've heard as 28:09 early as tomorrow or next week that 28:12 we're going to get the new the latest 28:14 model from OpenAI 28:16 which apparently is going to redeem them 28:18 for how shitty their last models were. 28:21 Um 28:22 and it's it's apparently mythos quality. 28:25 That's That's what I'm hearing. I think 28:27 that's 28:28 probably a lie. 28:30 But 28:32 um let's see. Chat GPT 28:40 When testing, I love breaking things. 28:41 Devs love me. Devs actually do like it 28:44 when you break stuff. 28:48 Um I love this app, Brandon. If you ever 28:51 need help hardening the application, let 28:53 me know. Dude, 28:55 um, so here's the thing. I would take 28:58 Gareth up on that, um, unless you've 29:00 done a hardening pass on your own, but 29:03 that implies to me that Gareth's in 29:04 there hacking, and he's probably got 29:06 your social security number, Brandon. 29:09 Uh, I would take him up on 29:11 I will say Lovable gave this a One thing 29:15 Lovable does really nicely is it does 29:18 give it a free security review and allow 29:21 you to try to plug up It'll run an AI 29:24 analysis on your site before you publish 29:27 it. Oh, that's cool. 29:29 >> deems that you have 29:31 flaws or holes, it will offer to fix 29:35 them without charging you 29:37 credits. So, 29:38 >> smart. early on, they were like, people 29:40 were publishing leaking sites because 29:43 they didn't have the credits to fix them 29:44 and patch them. So, Lovable says, "We 29:46 got to fix that." 29:47 So, they allow you to fix them for free. 29:49 That being said, I trust Gareth more 29:51 than I trust Lovable AI. Yeah. 29:54 >> Gareth, you feel free to, uh, help me 29:56 harden that because we're going to have 29:58 a bunch of, uh, Jewish grandmas testing 30:01 this thing a week from Saturday, and I 30:04 really need to make sure that they have 30:06 a good experience with it. Yeah, that's 30:08 really good. And he said he'll help with 30:10 with bugs bugs as well. So, that's 30:12 really cool, finding and patching bugs. 30:14 Super cool. Well, you got my angry Gen 30:16 Xer things. I just want things to look 30:18 less unfinished. Um, Gareth can actually 30:21 go in there and make sure [ __ ] shit's 30:22 working. 30:24 I I I told everyone in the, uh, Life X 30:27 Club that once we hit our first 100,000, 30:30 we're paying dividends to everybody who 30:32 participated and helped us, uh, 30:34 bring the app to life. 30:36 That's beautiful. All right, so so 30:38 here's actually a serious question. Are 30:39 you going to launch it in any way? Is is 30:43 is there is there an aspiration to turn 30:45 it into something that 30:47 is a you know 30:49 a freemium model or you do a 30:53 uh 30:53 an iPhone app as well like like how 30:55 ambitious are you going to get with it? 30:58 Yeah, you know, the I think the early 31:01 uh response that we're going to get from 31:03 friends and family are going to tell us 31:04 a lot about the appetite in the market 31:06 for it. Uh-huh. 31:08 At some point my 31:11 Gemini Cloud account is probably going 31:13 to get depleted to the point where I'm 31:15 going to throw 31:16 at least some sort of paywall at a 31:18 certain number of recipes up there just 31:21 because I've got to cover hard costs. 31:23 But, you know, if there's a potential of 31:26 and there's a need in the market for it, 31:28 we we see it being something that could 31:30 be 31:31 commercially viable and you know, I 31:34 don't think any of us did it to make 31:36 money with chat GPT, but if it solves 31:38 the problem and there's profit to be 31:40 made, then we will gladly solve that 31:43 problem and reap the rewards. 31:46 I have a feature idea. Do you want one 31:47 or you tight you are you like can we 31:49 just launch this thing now? 31:51 No, we've got six in the can. I mean, 31:53 come on. It's it's it's 31:55 five coding. I mean, we might build it 31:56 in the marathon or the the not marathon 31:59 the sprint inside of the lovable 32:01 workshops if you give it to me. 32:04 I'll give you the here's the idea. 32:06 Um 32:09 create 32:10 um like family member 32:13 like like avatars. So, you could have 32:15 like grandma, mom, 32:17 you know, daughter, you know, so so 32:20 basically you create a family of people 32:23 and then under those people are their 32:25 recipes. So, basically when you when you 32:27 create a 32:29 a person tied to a recipe, that becomes 32:32 a user that shows up in like a family 32:34 panel. So, like a view could be the the 32:36 family view and you have like grandma 32:38 and then you have her recipes listed 32:40 under her and then mom and her recipes 32:42 listed under her. It's it would it's 32:44 kind of a internal family leaderboard. 32:53 Oh, yeah. Like 32:55 No, no, no. The uh 32:57 I I was waiting for you to finish your 32:58 thought and also processing it. So, it 33:00 it's uh 33:02 you know, almost like 33:03 a sorting method instead of having all 33:06 the recipes you could group you could 33:08 group them under grandma and have AI 33:11 representation of grandma that talks 33:13 about her 33:15 her collection of recipes. Yeah, 33:17 something like that. Yeah. Yeah, 33:18 exactly. Yeah, it's it's basically a 33:20 filter filtering and sorting thing, but 33:22 you do it as a family unit. And it would 33:24 sort of encourage people like well, if 33:26 mom has a spin on grandma's recipe or we 33:29 have great grandma's recipe. Like you 33:30 could that would be really cool have 33:32 generational recipes in there. And maybe 33:35 dad's got his, you know, barbecue meat 33:39 you know, putting putting ribs on the on 33:42 on the smoker recipe. 33:44 Um yeah, that'd be pretty cool. 33:47 I love it. It it is it is a Frankenstein 33:50 project of the community and so 33:53 >> Yeah. you know, we've had at least 33:56 12 different people that have been 33:59 transient in the AI Life Hacks that have 34:01 had a hand in building this over the 34:02 past 6 months. So, it is one of those 34:05 that takes a village type of situations. 34:07 So, thanks everyone. We really 34:09 appreciate your support. And we'll be 34:11 meeting our next Life Hacks Club meeting 34:13 is the 22nd, which is Earth Day. So, You 34:17 know, you know what's you know, let me 34:18 throw another another idea out there. 34:20 This is this is not about the app 34:21 itself. This is about how you 34:24 Like I don't know how Gwyn's going to do 34:26 this, but like one of the things that 34:27 could be kind of fun. You know how you 34:29 do have sessions? Well, like these 34:31 things, right? I come on and I show you 34:32 how to build stuff with whatever 34:35 um that that I occasionally still do. 34:38 Um 34:40 having Gwen or you or someone 34:44 like do us do a like a half-hour session 34:46 or or a, you know, a 15-minute session 34:49 where you actually walk people through 34:51 the app and show them how to use it and 34:53 then maybe even get them to log in and 34:55 create an account and 34:56 like do do a hands-on thing 34:58 would be really cool. So the the the 35:01 event on the 18th is is a larger 35:04 symposium and they're going to have a 35:06 booth there and they've got an assembly 35:08 line planned where 35:12 the first person's going to register 35:14 them and help them set up their username 35:15 and password and write it down and then 35:18 the next person's going to be sitting 35:19 there with an a camera and record their 35:22 first recipe and then log in and upload 35:25 their first recipe. That's the cool 35:27 part. 35:28 They're going to have like this assembly 35:29 line and actually 35:31 we were talking about how the fact that 35:33 Lovable tends to remember your login 35:36 credentials over multiple browser 35:38 sessions, which is good except if you're 35:40 trying to do a high volume throughput 35:42 like that. Yeah. So 35:45 between the end of Life Hacks an hour 35:47 ago 35:49 and now and fixing your YouTube thing, I 35:52 also created an event registration link 35:54 that's buried in the site. So if you go 35:56 to recipe 35:58 -kin.com/event 36:00 you just have a a portal that you could 36:02 just sit there and put people's name, 36:04 email, and password and then it just 36:06 registers them in the database in the 36:08 back end without actually logging you 36:10 in. So she's able to just turn and burn. 36:13 That's really cool. That's so cool. 36:16 I love that idea. I love You know what's 36:18 really cool about the the assembly line, 36:20 getting people signed up and trained up 36:22 and all that sort of stuff is 36:26 it's not about AI. Right? This has got 36:28 nothing to do with AI. This is about 36:30 grandma's recipes, right? And like 36:33 making it easy for people to share 36:34 those. It's like it's really a gift. And 36:37 then at some point if someone goes, "How 36:38 did you make that?" You can tell them, 36:40 but it's like that's not what it's 36:41 about. Which seems right. Like that 36:43 seems like where we're going. 36:45 Yeah. Garrett, I live in Claude. 36:51 This is a great opportunity for UX user 36:53 research. I would agree with that. 36:58 Yeah, this is going to be a beast, 36:59 Brandon. You're going to have to I think 37:01 you might have to pit pass the tin cup 37:03 to get to get some extra lovable credits 37:06 cuz I have a feeling you're going to be 37:08 blowing through some credits. Once you 37:11 get this thing in the wild, this just 37:13 happened to us at Storyvine. I was I was 37:15 in Orlando with our our client there. 37:17 And uh you know, we had like 37:20 I don't know, probably 70 or 80 37:22 different sales reps download our app 37:24 and use it and film and test videos and 37:26 things like that. 37:28 And uh 37:29 man, you you think you cover everything 37:31 in testing, but new. 37:33 You learn all sorts of new things. 37:37 I'll give you one more that we haven't 37:38 publicly talked about yet, but it's it's 37:40 ready for prime time. If you open a new 37:42 tab and go to vibe greeting.com. 37:44 Uh-huh. 37:50 This is my other side project that I've 37:52 been working on that actually turned 37:53 into a real thing. 37:55 Oh, cool. 37:57 Make it real 99 occasion. 38:01 We'll go 38:01 >> What this is is a Yes. Uh an AI 38:05 creation. So, you remember the kiosks 38:08 back in the 90s at like 38:10 whatever CVS used to be, Revco, or 38:13 Walgreens where it was in the American 38:15 Greetings aisle where it would actually 38:18 custom and print a card 38:21 for you. Have you ever seen see those? 38:23 Yeah. So this is basically that concept 38:25 where you're taking an AI generated 38:27 image and AI generated 38:30 uh 38:33 greeting on the back. 38:36 And 38:38 then I'm using a third party called 38:40 Handwritten which prints it on demand 38:43 and actually mails out the card. And so 38:47 as my final test before I took this 38:49 live, I did one for my parents for their 38:52 anniversary and sent them a 38:55 greeting card with a caricature of them 38:57 on vacation 38:59 and a the greeting on the back that I 39:01 edited after the AI came up with it and 39:03 I just sent it to them in the mail 39:05 without telling them that it this was 39:07 happening. 39:08 And they're like, "So we got an 39:10 interesting card in the mail today." 39:12 I'm like, "Cool, cool, it worked." 39:15 That's great. 39:17 Did they care if it was AI? 39:20 They asked me how I got their likeness. 39:22 They like, "Did you use that AI stuff 39:24 you're telling us about?" I'm like, 39:25 "Yes, I did." 39:27 That's really funny. That's hilarious. 39:31 And how did you get Is this side if is 39:35 the size of the cards being pulled from 39:38 the print on demand API? 39:41 Uh yeah, it it looks at the size that 39:43 it's doing in it and it previews it 39:45 accordingly. That's really cool. 39:48 Regenerate. 39:51 Is this Nano Banana the back end? Yep. 40:02 That's funny. 40:20 >> So, the next effort around this is going 40:23 to be to figure out and to spend some 40:26 time with AI 40:29 trying to figure out how to market these 40:31 and 40:33 like this one in particular, I want to 40:35 throw some like 40:37 sponsored Facebook ads around it, but 40:39 I'm going to let AI help me analyze 40:42 where the cost run is cuz, you know, 40:44 when I'm only charging $10 to send the 40:46 card, most of that is tied up into the 40:49 production, shipping, mailing of the 40:51 card. So, the margins aren't huge. It's 40:54 a volume play. Yeah. 40:56 But, 40:57 we're 41:00 trying to figure out like you see these 41:02 all the time of the these sponsored ads 41:04 on Facebook. Like, I got to make sure 41:06 that I'm not spending $1,000 to sell one 41:09 greeting card. Like, that's not going 41:11 Um and you could very easily do that 41:13 with AI with marketing. Um and Facebook 41:16 budgets and Google Ads. So, and the next 41:19 iteration of this is to try to use AI to 41:22 figure out how to optimize towards 41:25 exposure because it used to be that 41:29 ideas were easy, execution is hard. 41:32 Execution is becoming easier, but 41:35 delivery and that last mile and telling 41:38 people about the thing in the sea of 41:40 noise that is the internet has become 41:42 the new difficult part of this. No, it's 41:46 this is really important and and one of 41:48 the things I would encourage you to do, 41:50 Brandon, is 41:51 make videos and you might even have a 41:53 video on the on the homepage. 41:58 Like, rather than that being a generic 42:00 thing, like maybe that generic thing 42:02 there, but maybe down here 42:05 or or maybe maybe you do two do dual 42:07 columns or something like that where 42:10 you've got a video of of you saying, 42:13 "Hey, I'm Brandon. You know, here's 42:15 here's why I made this." Because I I 42:18 think we're coming into this place where 42:20 everyone's going to be able to copy 42:21 every site. But like only Brandon can do 42:24 Brandon's vibe greeting maker. You know 42:27 what I mean? Like I would find a way to 42:28 get your voice in there, whether it's a 42:30 video or or, you know, 42:33 "I'm Brandon and and, you know, I love 42:36 my family and this is in the spirit of 42:38 that and, you know, click here to learn 42:39 more about me" that takes you in. 42:41 Something that right up front doesn't 42:43 make it just a generic vibe greeting 42:45 thing. That it's that it's your vibe 42:48 greeting thing. That that feels 42:49 important to me. I'll have my HeyGen 42:51 avatar do the interview and then I can 42:53 do it in multiple languages. There you 42:55 go. 42:56 You're right. It's it's it's 42:57 personalization at scale. Yeah, exactly. 43:01 >> the audience, you know, the if you build 43:03 it, they will come mentality only goes 43:05 so far. 43:06 Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Vibe greeting and 43:08 recipe kin, two of the latest 43:10 innovations from the AI life hacks test 43:12 kitchen. 43:13 That's so cool. 43:16 It really is cool. 43:21 And not for nothing, somebody's got a 43:22 birthday coming up, so. 43:26 There you go. Maybe you're going to Go 43:28 go make some greetings. Go make some 43:30 cards and so does it when you make a 43:33 greeting and go to send it, you put in 43:35 the person's address and and the the API 43:38 site does all that? Mhm. That's super 43:41 cool. 43:46 Real robotic handwriting. Oh, I have a 43:49 Do you want another um 43:51 Do you want another whatchamacallit? 43:54 Sure. 43:58 Um 44:00 Describe the message. 44:03 Optional, heartfelt. Let's see. 44:06 Describe look and feel. 44:08 Um a peanut 44:11 butter jar 44:14 and a half-eaten 44:17 spoon of peanut 44:20 butter. 44:24 And then we'll say describe the message. 44:28 Um 44:29 Stop eating 44:31 out of the 44:33 peanut butter jar. 44:39 So, uh 44:40 it it for Aunt Gert and Jason in uh 44:44 TikTok, it absolutely like Mr. Deeds 44:46 working on 44:48 uh cards uh trying to send them to 44:51 American Greetings. If anybody has a 44:52 contacted American Greetings, they want 44:54 to buy this site from me and and turn it 44:56 into an American Greeting and American 44:58 Greetings 45:00 uh site, I would be happy to uh sell out 45:03 to them. There you go. Or Walmart. 45:06 Um 45:07 so, it would be good to have Yeah, you 45:10 can't do it. It would be good to have 45:13 You have described the message as 45:14 optional and then the tone. It would It 45:17 would be good to have like some sort of 45:19 toggle here that I could like a a 45:21 checkbox that says 45:23 just put this exact text into the card 45:26 rather than generating the the text of 45:28 the card. Like if I'm a writer and I 45:30 know what I want to write, I could write 45:31 it right in there and then I not have to 45:33 edit it after. 45:35 And then the other thing, this is a 45:36 subtle one, but but it it'll be a good 45:39 one, I think. 45:41 Let's Let's let it generate yield card. 45:50 May your New Year be filled with much 45:52 sweetness and comfort as your favorite 45:54 midnight snack. You are the heart of 45:56 this home, but for the sake of your 45:58 health health and our shared pantry, 46:00 please start using a spoon instead of 46:02 your fingers. Life is better with you by 46:04 my side, especially when we're sharing 46:07 everything except the germs of the 46:09 peanut butter jar. That's pretty funny. 46:11 Um, 46:11 so here's the thing. So I'm in classic 46:13 script. When I go edit message, it 46:15 changes the font. 46:17 And same with this. 46:18 You have it have it have the the when 46:22 you edit have it be in the same size and 46:24 font as the the preview. 46:27 Especially when you have something like 46:28 this where it's a big font and then you 46:30 go to edit it and it's much smaller. 46:34 Cuz people will write 46:36 too much 46:37 in the small thing and it will truncate. 46:41 But it's also just it'll just be less 46:43 jarring. 46:45 Get it? Jar, peanut butter jar. 46:48 Get there? 46:50 This is very cool. Very cool, man. 46:54 Love it. 46:54 >> Yeah, and if you want to learn more 46:56 about the process, mastermind next month 46:59 will be will be walking through all of 47:00 it 47:01 live and on demand. 47:04 Beautiful. 47:04 >> Watch the beautiful beautiful beautiful. 47:06 Pull the producer card and say go to 47:09 community.thesalon.ai 47:11 and head over to AI life hacks and 47:14 share your thoughts. Yeah. Perfect. 47:17 Beautiful. And that's a mastermind 47:18 class, the lovable one, right? 47:21 Yes, but 47:22 today's AI life hack session, which will 47:24 be posted shortly, is the 47:28 TLDR version of that, the the readers 47:31 digest version of that. It's it's the 47:33 entire four-week course crammed into one 47:35 uh fever dream of an hour-long session. 47:39 Right. Cool. 47:44 Beautiful. 47:47 Thank you for your assistance, David. 47:52 Oh, interesting. All right. Um, 47:55 here's what I thought might be fun. What 47:57 I'm not going to do a ton of this. 47:59 But like I haven't gone and looked at 48:01 the chat GPT options in a long, long 48:04 time. 48:06 Um 48:09 So I figured we'd just click around the 48:11 interface. This might be good to just 48:13 click around the interface and 48:16 and see what the hell's going on here. 48:23 Notebook LM is now in Gemini, right? 48:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 48:30 All right, maybe we'll play with that 48:31 tomorrow. 48:34 Um okay. So remember the the pull-down 48:38 menu for chat GPT models used to be this 48:41 nightmarish complex of of all the 48:44 different model types. 48:47 What they've done here is pretty smart. 48:49 There's just instant for everyday chats, 48:51 thinking. 48:53 And let's see. I can turn that off. 48:58 And I assume I can turn it on. 49:03 No. 49:05 Oh, I see what I did. Okay, I see what 49:07 you do. So you go thinking. 49:11 Oh, this is interesting. So you either 49:14 go instant for everyday chats like um 49:17 write me a sonnet 49:20 about 49:22 um packing tape. 49:31 It's not wicked fast, is it? 49:34 And that's not a sonnet. Oh, yeah, it 49:35 is. 49:38 4 4 49:46 Three sets of four and a two, is that 49:48 right? Maybe. 49:49 A humble roll translucent taught and 49:52 grace. Taught with grace. Okay. 49:54 Um 49:55 So, you go instant gives you quick, and 49:59 then 50:00 you go thinking, and now there's a 50:02 thinking menu, and you can go thinking 50:04 standard, thinking extended. So, 50:06 thinking extended is going to blow 50:08 through your your tokens more, but um 50:11 that's that's interesting. 50:13 And then if you click on the plus button 50:15 here, add photos, recent files. That's 50:18 cool. 50:19 Add from library. 50:35 Huh. 50:38 All right. What else? Create image, 50:41 deep research, web search. 50:44 I don't know the difference between 50:45 those two. 50:47 Add sources, canvas. 50:52 This is still a mess, this menu here. 50:54 Agent mode. 50:56 More available on April 17th. 39 agent 50:59 modes left. 51:03 Huh. 51:09 I want you to find me 51:13 health care agencies in 51:17 San Fran 51:20 cisco 51:28 that are small to mid-sized, 51:35 and 51:42 then find 51:48 phone numbers 51:50 emails 51:52 for 51:54 top strategy people and or 51:58 founders. 52:02 Top strategy people, 52:05 innovation people, 52:11 and or founders. 52:14 Compile 52:16 this into 52:18 a 52:20 CSV. 52:23 Gareth on YouTube. 52:30 The Daily AI show with Beth Bryan and he 52:34 joins at 7:00 a.m. 52:37 Why use agent mode when you can use 52:41 Atlas? 52:44 Um 52:48 I don't know. I've never used Atlas. Is 52:50 Atlas good? 52:51 I downloaded Atlas when it came out. 52:54 Gareth is going to be joining their 52:57 daily AI show starting tomorrow and 52:59 he'll be on as a guest periodically is 53:00 what he was saying. That's what I was 53:01 saying. 53:01 >> Oh, cool. 53:02 That's awesome. 53:04 Oh, 53:05 Atlas. We There's something else we 53:07 forget, Kyle. Atlas is the ChatGPT 53:10 browser. Yeah, I know. 53:12 I downloaded it and never really used 53:14 it. So. 53:19 I also posted in challenges and 53:21 competitions that um starting next week 53:26 uh Perplexity is 53:29 doing a The billion-dollar idea? 53:33 Yeah. 53:34 uh hackathon. Eight weeks to a 53:36 billion-dollar idea. 53:38 And it's you're putting teams together, 53:40 right? 53:41 Uh yeah, but it could be a a single 53:43 person 53:44 you know, you just have to 53:46 compete 53:47 be competitive. But, they want you using 53:49 paper 53:50 >> coolest to put together like like salon 53:53 cohorts, you know? 53:55 Four or five person teams where there's 53:58 people who are good at different things. 54:01 That'd be kind of fun. 54:03 Rick McCauley and I are going to be back 54:04 down hacking at a Lovable event next 54:07 weekend actually. Uh, trying to 54:09 >> In Miami? 54:11 Yeah, in Miami. Trying to bring a a a 54:13 cancer uh 54:15 uh treatment uh 54:17 AI assistant to life. 54:19 Oh, wow. That's cool. 54:21 Um, my suggestion about um 54:24 getting together small teams seems to be 54:26 generating some excitement. Jason's 54:28 like, "Who wants to be on my team? I'm a 54:30 thinker." Dr. Jay, yes. Silver Fox into 54:33 it. 54:34 I exclusively use it now in beta testing 54:37 Google Disco browser and it's decent. 54:40 But, it crashes a lot. 54:43 Salon Vikings, GPT Atlas browser. 54:48 Um 54:52 Atlas. I wonder if I have it. 54:56 I don't. 54:58 All right, let's go get it. 55:00 Like, what's good or bad about it? 55:03 Gareth. 55:11 AI Salon hackathon 55:15 Chat GPT Atlas, download for Mac OS. 55:29 What program would I be able to make my 55:31 own music like 30-second songs for 55:33 background in videos? 55:35 Um 55:38 For for background music, there used to 55:40 be 55:41 a site called Refusion, 55:44 which was kind of a loop 55:46 an AI-powered loop assembler that was 55:48 really good for that kind of stuff. 55:51 That got eaten by and became 55:54 producer.ai. 55:56 So, there's there's three major ones. 55:58 You can do it a little bit with Gemini, 56:00 but it kind of sucks right now. There's 56:03 Suno, which is the big mac daddy. 56:06 There's 56:08 um 56:09 Udio. Both of those got acquired by 56:13 major music labels, and they have weird 56:16 ownership stuff now. 56:18 And then there's producer.ai. Those are 56:20 the three biggies that I know of. 56:22 And then there's some open-source stuff 56:24 just came open. 56:25 Uh 56:28 some open-source music stuff. I I see 56:30 people po- posting about it. But if you 56:32 want to do open-source, 56:34 you have to be you have to be geeky. 56:37 You have to understand what GitHub is 56:38 and how to, 56:39 you know, pull down repos and do 56:41 whatever the [ __ ] you need to do there. 56:44 Um set up your new profile. 56:47 Continue. 56:49 Allow. 56:52 Sure, we'll import from Chrome. 56:55 We'll grab that. Oh, let's do Let's turn 56:58 all these off. 57:01 Import. 57:06 It does everything in the chat GPT, but 57:09 it also has agent mode, so it's an 57:11 agentic browser. 57:13 Allow access to the keychain. 57:28 Every search is a chat GPT conversation. 57:51 Um 57:53 isn't there a 58:14 Isn't there a chat GPT mode? 58:19 Find the best restaurants near me. 58:25 Have you tried Google Google Gemini's 58:27 new music generator? I haven't, it 58:29 sucks. 58:31 Unless 58:32 it got better. 58:33 Which is possible. 58:35 Safe prompts in chat GPT Atlas. 58:39 Oh, that's cool. So oh, safe prompt. 58:42 Nice. 58:44 Chat search, images, 58:50 videos, 58:55 news. 59:00 Does Cartesia do um music? I thought 59:03 Cartesia just did voice. 59:12 Everything does everything now. Yeah, I 59:14 know. 59:32 >> So, ask anything. 59:34 Um 59:36 How 59:39 What is the best 59:42 dumpster price for my house? 1:00:05 TikTok been 1:00:07 My son is a software engineer and would 1:00:08 lose his mind if I told him I was in a 1:00:13 Hang on. 1:00:15 in a hackathon. Oh, you definitely have 1:00:17 to be in a hackathon and tell him you're 1:00:18 in a hackathon. That's awesome. 1:00:21 That is beautiful. 1:00:23 Um 1:00:25 All right, Atlas is interesting. I'm 1:00:27 probably not going to use it just 1:00:28 because I don't 1:00:32 really know. Let's How's this thing 1:00:35 doing? Is it done? 1:00:37 No. 1:00:41 Understood. I'll research 1:00:44 health care agencies in San Fran that 1:00:46 are small to mid-sized. 1:00:48 I'll gather phone numbers and emails. 1:00:52 All right, it's doing its thing. 1:01:05 I mean, I think if you're smart, you 1:01:07 should grab Gareth 1:01:10 or Brandon or 1:01:13 Vicky 1:01:15 or Danielle. Like, there's a bunch of 1:01:17 people in here who've done some cool 1:01:18 vibe coding. 1:01:22 I'd get on a with someone clever. 1:01:27 You know what I just realized? 1:01:31 Not that you care. 1:01:32 But you know I've been like sort of like 1:01:36 sick for five nights where my 1:01:39 my face just fills up. Now I just 1:01:41 realized I've got like fluid in my left 1:01:43 ear and it was my left sinus that was 1:01:45 getting all 1:01:46 crunchy. So whatever's whatever's in me 1:01:48 is just 1:01:49 traipsing around my skull. 1:01:52 So after final fi- several layoffs, AI 1:01:55 made my life weird. AI made my life 1:01:57 weird. Oh. I finally got the job to sell 1:02:01 software for a company. 1:02:07 The software is easy. That's super cool. 1:02:10 Sorry Kyle, that sucks. I know, right? 1:02:13 Truth be told. 1:02:15 A little I just realized it's making 1:02:17 clicking and popping sounds in there. 1:02:19 Um 1:02:21 AI made my life weird. Put Put in there 1:02:24 what that what that means. 1:02:26 Why How did it make it weird? 1:02:29 Oh dang, I wasn't finished typing. You 1:02:31 can finish typing. 1:02:36 I'll shout you out then. I thought it 1:02:38 it's a cool story. Congrats that you got 1:02:40 a job. 1:02:41 Cuz it's weird right now, man. 1:02:46 Oh, scroll up. I typed the rest. 1:02:53 To build 1:02:55 Should I copy them and sell my own? 1:02:57 Um 1:02:59 Yeah. Everyone else is going to do that. 1:03:04 You should. 1:03:06 But you know you got to figure out where 1:03:09 your ethics boundaries are, right? If 1:03:10 you're selling for them, you know, don't 1:03:13 poach their 1:03:15 their lead list. I wouldn't do that. I 1:03:17 wouldn't go that far. 1:03:19 Um 1:03:21 but but what you could do So So there's 1:03:24 there's a couple of things. 1:03:27 So what you're hitting on gets to a new 1:03:29 marketing theory I have that's it's not 1:03:31 a new marketing theory. It This is as 1:03:34 old as the hills, but 1:03:36 I think this is going to be only the 1:03:38 only thing. If you're marketing 1:03:41 the service service itself, 1:03:45 so let's say you're working for this 1:03:46 company. You're selling their thing. 1:03:47 You're like, this is easy. I can make 1:03:49 one of these. You're going to make one 1:03:50 of these and you're going to add some 1:03:51 features to it. 1:03:53 And then you're going to start talking 1:03:54 about yours as being better than this 1:03:56 one. But then someone's going to see 1:03:57 yours and copy it and and probably copy 1:03:59 it in six ways to Sunday. 1:04:02 So everyone's going to be talking about 1:04:03 their thing thinking that their features 1:04:05 matter, but no one's paying attention to 1:04:06 features anymore. 1:04:08 But if what you did was you said, "Hey, 1:04:10 I used to work for this company and they 1:04:12 had this thing and it was really cool 1:04:13 and it was very simple and I liked it. 1:04:16 But I've been in the sales game for a 1:04:18 while and I know how it could be better 1:04:19 and so I'm going to tell you about my 1:04:21 version of this sales tool that takes it 1:04:23 to the next level." 1:04:25 Right? I think that starts to be how we 1:04:28 start marketing things where human 1:04:31 beings are what are what elevate brands 1:04:34 above the noise so that you can actually 1:04:36 consider them. 1:04:38 Um 1:04:40 let's see. 1:04:43 Jump in here. We're going to open this 1:04:45 numbers. 1:04:47 Hello numbers. 1:04:49 Hello numbers. 1:04:52 Agency name. 1:04:54 School of thought Abra Marketing. 1:04:58 Key contact person. 1:05:01 Oh, this is cool. 1:05:05 Huh. 1:05:10 I I it for things in in San Francisco. 1:05:15 And it got me one in Houston. 1:05:20 That doesn't help. With a 212 phone 1:05:22 number. I have a feeling that phone 1:05:23 number's wrong, too. 1:05:27 It only got me eight options. No. 1:05:30 1 2 3 4 5 options. 1:05:37 Let's go try the same thing in GenSpark. 1:05:42 I have a feeling GenSpark's going to 1:05:44 kick 1:05:45 ChatGPT in the ass. 1:06:03 Steve Jobs said everything I 1:06:04 accomplished in my life will be 1:06:06 be meaningless in 20 years, irrelevant. 1:06:09 Yeah. 1:06:11 Um 1:06:12 Some things, you know, some things 1:06:14 endure. 1:06:16 Some things endure. 1:06:26 Your first AI employee from $9.99 a 1:06:28 month. 1:07:10 >> Panda, do you have your hand raised? 1:07:13 You don't have to raise your hand. 1:07:16 Are you waving? 1:07:18 I think you might be waving. 1:07:26 Parallel search. 1:07:33 Oh, it's Garrett saying you moved over. 1:07:35 Okay, got it. 1:07:44 TikTok pen. I'm trying to basically sell 1:07:47 AI phone calls, AI marketing, AI social 1:07:49 media, etc. 1:07:53 Um like I said, everyone's going to be 1:07:55 selling everything and it's all 1:07:57 everyone's going to sound the same. 1:07:59 So, anything that you can do 1:08:02 to establish yourself connected to that 1:08:05 service. 1:08:06 Where you say, "Hey, I'm the best in the 1:08:08 world at knowing what sales people 1:08:10 need." And so this stuff I'm selling 1:08:12 you, I'm really good at this. I'm really 1:08:14 passionate about this. I'm 1:08:16 a contrarian. I'm an innovator. Like 1:08:19 there's a thing that you do that's sort 1:08:20 of the best in the world. 1:08:23 Right? And so why you're selling this 1:08:25 stuff or why you developed your tool is 1:08:28 because you saw a better way. 1:08:32 Like with Storyvine, I talk about 1:08:35 you know, 1:08:37 I don't have the attention span to do 1:08:39 really good video editing. And so I 1:08:41 thought there's got to be a better way 1:08:43 to make short-form video that doesn't 1:08:45 suck. 1:08:48 And so I talk about 1:08:50 that all the time and 1:08:53 you know, that's part of part of our 1:08:55 brand is is, you know, talking about the 1:08:57 origin story of like why it exists. 1:09:00 I I going to be very powerful. 1:09:03 I saw a guy AI went wild and called some 1:09:06 do not call list. The fine is $1,000 per 1:09:09 call. 1:09:10 ChatGPT says to stay for a few weeks. 1:09:17 I mean 1:09:18 if if I am an engineer 1:09:21 and I just quit and sell it myself 1:09:25 or do I wait and learn sales for a few 1:09:27 weeks? I would wait. Here's the thing 1:09:29 with waiting and if if you don't know 1:09:31 sales 1:09:33 if you're 1:09:35 you know 1:09:36 learn to sell for them and and you know, 1:09:39 figure out what's good about it, what's 1:09:41 bad about it. Maybe you like it, maybe 1:09:42 you don't. 1:09:45 So, yeah, I would go do that. 1:09:54 Sales is the hardest part by far. 1:10:05 All right, it looks like it looks like 1:10:08 Jen Sparks already found more than Open 1:10:10 AI did. 1:10:48 New nickname dropped. 1:10:55 Thank you AI Grandpa. I'll stay for a 1:10:58 few weeks. 1:11:00 Douche. 1:11:02 AI Grandpa. It's It's not bad. I'll take 1:11:05 it, but 1:11:07 A, I'm not a grandpa. B, I don't feel 1:11:10 like a grandpa, but you know, I'm old, 1:11:12 so what are you going to do? 1:11:14 Uh-oh, that's the main reason I was 1:11:16 working for a big company because I hate 1:11:18 the sales part of it. 1:11:21 I just like creating the tool [ __ ] 1:11:23 Yeah, I know. Sales is Sales is a beast. 1:11:26 Although, if you can partner up with 1:11:28 someone who's really good at the sales 1:11:30 and loves the sales, and you can just 1:11:31 nerd out on the product. This Listen, 1:11:34 here's I think if if you want to 1:11:36 understand the reason I said 1:11:39 um for the Perplexity hackathon 1:11:42 groups of like four to eight people in 1:11:45 the AI Salon should get together to do 1:11:47 those things. I think a unit like that, 1:11:50 plus or minus seven so like between five 1:11:53 and nine people 1:11:55 Imagine getting together with a group of 1:11:57 people where you've got complimentary 1:11:58 skills, you all like each other, and 1:12:01 everyone's doing AI, and you sort of 1:12:02 figure out, "Okay, I'm good at finance 1:12:04 stuff. I'm good at sales. I'm good at 1:12:06 product. I'm good at, 1:12:08 you know, making sure shit's secure, and 1:12:10 we're going to, you know, no one's going 1:12:11 to get sued cuz our 1:12:13 code is shitty." 1:12:15 Um you get that group together, and you 1:12:18 just start iterating on ideas, and sort 1:12:20 of putting ideas out there. I think a 1:12:21 group of of five to seven 1:12:24 seven or eight people could do some real 1:12:26 [ __ ] damage in a good way. 1:12:35 Done. Here's your CSV. 10 companies. 1:12:39 Download the CSV. 1:12:44 Let's go grab it. 1:12:58 >> Organization, Arena, Healthcare, 1:13:01 AI medic- medication intelligence, 1:13:04 Careem Health, 1:13:06 value-based specialty care, 1:13:09 GoGoGrandparent. 1:13:22 Hm. 1:13:28 Co-founder and head of data strategy. 1:13:35 Huh. 1:13:38 All right, we'll download that. 1:13:41 All right, kids. Are we trying to get 1:13:43 rich over here? No, I'm just my 1:13:45 co-founder's heading to San Francisco. 1:13:47 If anyone here's in California, if you 1:13:49 know anyone in San Francisco 1:13:51 that's in pharma or healthcare 1:13:54 that would be interested in or or 1:13:57 potentially AI, but healthcare-related 1:13:59 would be better. 1:14:01 My 1:14:03 co-founder's going to be out there next 1:14:05 Wednesday, and she's got some time she 1:14:07 wants to fill. 1:14:09 I'm kind of sad about Sora ending in 1:14:11 April. I continue making my AI videos 1:14:14 with simplicity. Yeah, that sucks. 1:14:16 I saw some video on how AI is teaching 1:14:18 coding, but not vibe coding like a 1:14:20 course on the side on the side of the 1:14:22 screen. 1:14:24 Yeah, there's going to be all sorts of 1:14:26 really cool apps that are developed as 1:14:28 as 1:14:29 AI gets better and human beings get 1:14:31 better at figuring out what they want, 1:14:33 we're going to see all sorts of new 1:14:35 kinds of 1:14:36 uh 1:14:37 software formats that I think are going 1:14:39 to be awesome. 1:14:42 Um 1:14:44 let's do that. 1:14:46 All right, I'm going to get out of here. 1:14:48 I'm a little crunchy still and now that 1:14:50 I have water in my ear, I want to go 1:14:52 deal with that. 1:14:54 Sora was burning money. It was. We just 1:14:56 need to figure out what we want. That's 1:14:58 the big the billion-dollar question for 1:15:01 all of us is who are we and what do we 1:15:03 want? 1:15:04 What do you want? 1:15:06 It's a brutal question. 1:15:09 Maybe not for you. For me it was a 1:15:10 brutal brutal question. 1:15:15 All right. 1:15:19 Better than tonight is trust me. Yeah, I 1:15:21 so do not 1:15:23 envy that. 1:15:24 Tell the subs I said hi. 1:15:27 When the peroxide is in your ears. 1:15:31 Get well, Kyle. Thank you everybody. 1:15:33 Thank you for the kind wishes. All 1:15:34 right, cool. I will see you tomorrow and 1:15:37 I appreciate you all being here. Bye. 1:15:41 Oh, wait. The regulars before I go. Hang 1:15:43 on. 1:15:44 Brandon just saved it y'all. 1:15:49 Let me reload. 1:15:57 This one? 1:15:58 Which one? 1:16:00 Oh, the trouble duet. 1:16:07 What am I looking at? 1:16:08 One more refresh. 1:16:10 Although trouble sounds good. 1:16:11 I did. 1:16:17 More activity? 1:16:20 Reload. 1:16:22 Are you sure you hit submit? 1:16:24 I did. 1:16:26 Are you in chat maybe? 1:16:29 No. 1:16:31 My internet works just taking its time. 1:16:34 Oh, there we go. 1:16:37 Get off my ass generated the line. 1:16:43 Champy's now a pitbull. 1:16:47 My favorite part of that is if you look 1:16:50 down, the grass is just like Yeah. 1:16:54 text. 1:16:56 That's awesome. 1:16:59 Cool, yeah. 1:17:00 All right, thank you, sir. Thank you, 1:17:01 producer Brandon. Thank you, mods. Um I 1:17:04 will see you tomorrow night. I'm going 1:17:06 to go drink water, maybe a tea. All 1:17:08 right, later.