4/8/2026 - Preserving Family History with AI Generated Recipe Books and Digital Stories

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1. 0:17You want this? You want that, Champy? Come on. Come lay down. Come lay down. Are you going to Are you going to sing
2. 0:29for me tonight? Are we going to sing?
3. 0:46Hallelujah. David played and it pleased the Lord. You don't really care for music, do you? Who's black is the fourth fulfilled?
4. 1:03A minor fall and a major lift. The baffled king composing Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
5. 1:18Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Well, your faith was strong but you
6. 1:33needed a proof. She saw her bathing on the roof. Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you. She tied you to the kitchen chair. She
7. 1:47smashed your throne and cut your hair from your lips. Shadrach. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
8. 2:03Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Oh, yeah.
9. 2:22Same way suit and tie. Does he work at the Dairy Queen? Does he listen to rock and roll? Does he feed the mean singing Hallelujah.
10. 2:36Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. What about Jesus? Don't need a tutor, yeah. Hang out with
11. 2:50the prostitute. Just have a drink, too. Public example of what mama said it in a hymn. She said one ounce of action beats a ton of words.
12. 3:04Singing Hallelujah. Mama said there would be angels. Hallelujah. Mama said there would be sun. Yeah, yeah.
13. 3:21Happy Wednesday, good people of the TikTok. Two people. Valerie and Silverfox. Welcome. It'll be an intimate gathering tonight.
14. 4:39>> I love dogs joined. You like Champy? You love Champy. Champy's the best.
15. 4:54That Champy is one good doggy. He's a lover. Are you a lover, Champy?
16. 5:17Is this place I can rest my forehead? Gather my thoughts in sweet silence.
17. 5:33And is this place where the feelings are laid? From an old exposure to violence. This is place I can slowly face the only
18. 5:49one I truly can know. These tears from a long time ago. I got these tears from a long time ago. I need to cry 30 years of soul.
19. 6:06I got these tears from a long time ago. go.
20. 6:29Table for three tonight? Hello Danielle.
21. 8:10>> All right. Let's get working on the old AI here. What is happening? What is happening on the AI? Um
22. 8:25no recipes yet. So, I want to show something fun. Might as well start out with something fun. Crawford's in the house. What's
23. 8:38happening, Sharon? What's going down? Archetypal's in the house. We got Valerie, got Todd Waller, producer Brandon, of course, Danielle,
24. 8:50Silver Fox, Eric Trung. Welcome, everybody. Let's go ahead. So, if you point your browser to
25. 9:09recipe Well, that came on strong, that little yawn. recipe-kin .com What this cool thing is
26. 9:25So, I think this was a Brandon, do you want to talk about this? Like the origin of this was in life hacks, right?
27. 9:33That is correct. You want to tell us like the origin story of it? Yeah, we were playing around with Lovable last year and uh
28. 9:43Yeah, last year it was it was last fall and uh I just kind of threw it out to the group is anybody have any ideas and and Gwen said
29. 9:52you know, what if we had a app that preserved people's recipes, but not just the recipes like the story behind it.
30. 9:59You know, like your grandmother used to tell that story while she made the uh made the information or made the
31. 10:07recipe. There's all that history in there and what what if we captured that and turned that into a virtual cookbook.
32. 10:15And such the idea was born and we played around with it for a few months and we got it to the point where we're
33. 10:23pretty comfortable that it was going to turn into something. And then about uh a month ago Gwen says, "Hey, I signed up for an event at my
34. 10:33congregation mid-April and we're going to sign up a bunch of people. It'll be ready by then, right?" I said, "Yeah, sure. Why not?"
35. 10:42And so uh So did you So you just went off and vibe coded it or was it already started? No, we we we started in Chat GPT and
36. 10:51they we iterated on it and um came up with a concept and then took that into Lovable and ran with it. Huh.
37. 10:59And did you Was it like a like it was like a a website in Chat GPT that you coded or you were just describing it
38. 11:06there? No, we were just iterating the idea of we knew it was going to be a Lovable site and so we basically distilled the idea down
39. 11:15inside of Chat GPT and ideated on it and got it down to kind of a a Lovable prompt and then took that prompt into
40. 11:23Lovable and started from there. That's very cool. That's very cool. I dig it. I dig it. I dig it. I dig it.
41. 11:32As the initial recipe idea has evolved, we took it from just video submissions to now you can do video, audio, visual,
42. 11:46or YouTube. >> So, you've got four different types of uploads. >> You can upload like a handwritten recipe card. That's cool. Yep.
43. 11:55Audio or YouTube. Nice. And then from there it uses the Gemini multimodal API to analyze the content Uh-huh.
44. 12:06>> and come up with the recipe card. That's very cool. So, when is When is Gwen's event? Did she already
45. 12:13have it? Uh no, it's coming up on the 18th. So, Oh, wow. we encourage all of our regulars to hop over and beta test
46. 12:21it and give us feedback so we can make sure that we uh that it's working. putting our best foot forward as we take
47. 12:28this thing out of beta. Yeah. >> And I will tell you we talked about it in the Life Hacks Club tonight and we
48. 12:34already had like four enhancements. So, >> Well, of course. Like once you start something, it's like, "Well, you know
49. 12:39what else it could do? Well, you know what else it could do?" Yeah. And the the the most difficult part of this was
50. 12:48around 2 months ago we came this concept of well, what if we actually wanted to turn this into a actual cookbook.
51. 12:57And so, I tasked GPT with ChatGPT with finding out how to do print-on-demand one-off small-format books. And it came up with a uh
52. 13:08a third-party partner called Lulu, lulu.com, that has an API. And I followed the instructions and put gave it my API key.
53. 13:19And once you get to the point where you have uh a handful of recipes, you can actually order a physical cookbook. Wow, really?
54. 13:30That's pretty cool. And in the spirit of bad coding, it only took 10 tries of ordering books before it Before you can actually order
55. 13:42a book? Before you can actually order a book. And um you know, it was I hooked it up to Stripe and it was uh it was entertaining because
56. 13:55I got an email from Stripe today that says, "Good news. You made $100 in book sales." I'm like, "Yeah, that was me.
57. 14:01That's my money. Give it back." Yeah, that's hilarious. You're trying to find a recipe? Yeah, I'm trying to find a recipe.
58. 14:10Just like Mom used to make. Gluten-free, nut-free. No. No. You don't make gluten-free, nut-free peanut butter cookies.
59. 14:24Hillbilly kitchen. I'm trying to get just a >> Todd Waller on TikTok is logged in and looking around. We're going to create
60. 14:30inside of the AI Life Hacks space a place for feedback, but if you see anything out of sorts, um please email and let me know. And uh
61. 14:42There we go. >> If you check on the Irregulars, uh I'm sorry, if you check in Life Hacks space, there is a if you do decide to
62. 14:49get up to 36 pages and you want to actually print something, uh there's a special promo code that you to a 20% off
63. 14:56Is it one page per recipe or like you got a recipe that spans two pages? No, one page per recipe. And does the the system control that? It
64. 15:09It keeps the text below a page worth? Yep. Mhm. Wow, that's cool. Okay, wait. Let me go back to here.
65. 15:18So, I'm going to upload my first video. I'm I'm to put in a YouTube URL. It's going to be amazing to watch this
66. 15:24fall on its face and not work cuz we've made so many changes to it in the past. Yeah, okay. So we got the YouTube video,
67. 15:31that's good. Yeah, YouTube video's in there. Can you play it? Oh, that's a that's a bug or a fix. You should be able to preview
68. 15:38>> call that an enhancement. It's a bug. Who let the angry Gen Xer into the office? You can't import a YouTube video and not
69. 15:51be able to play the YouTube video. That's a bug. You can't do it. You need a angry Gen Xer in the corner office for exactly
70. 16:01this reason. I'm Listen, here's the deal. Sure, it's humiliating now, but it's going to save you headaches in the
71. 16:09future when this becomes grandma's biggest recipe bucket. All right, here we go. How quick is it? Is it decently quick? Yeah, it works out
72. 16:18pretty quick. It takes just a just about a minute to analyze it. Generation failed. Ah, see? Yeah, I told you you'd break it.
73. 16:27This is why we test. This is why we test. But um I want to call out something that Heaven knows on AI effects that was pretty cool. is
74. 16:38when in her early testing figured out that when we displayed the um information on the cookbook So even though the generation failed,
75. 16:51here's what the end result looks like. So if you click on view Oh, wait. Um And then you can edit that recipe. Oh, cool. >> Uh
76. 17:05>> And you can In case the AI hallucinates something that grandma misspoke, you can add in all of the pertinent details and fill it
77. 17:14in. It's supposed to be designed to fill in the gaps, not write the entire thing, but in case of a failure uh to launch, it it does that.
78. 17:24>> Um but when we were working on this >> is a view. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. Here's the Here's the Oh, here you can play it. Yes.
79. 17:34There you go. All right. And then if I go to edit, it it doesn't reload the the YouTube video. It should.
80. 17:44Do you want to just make a list and send it to us tomorrow? Um but I want to call out something in the Life Hacks Club. So, Gwen was
81. 17:55testing it and one thing she noticed is when we generated the pricing, it didn't draw out that pricing was inclusive of printing
82. 18:06shipping and handling. It was just showing you a price. Uh >> And so we needed to add that in and so I asked
83. 18:14Lovable to add that in and it added it in like the fine print. I'm like, "No, no. It needs to be bigger."
84. 18:20And so I moved it and I made it bigger and I said to Gwen, I said, "Like that?" cuz we were on uh the meeting together and she was, "No.
85. 18:28We need to make that more pronounced." So, I said, "Hey, Lovable. I really want to know that this thing is
86. 18:33you know, inclusive." Inclusive, yeah. >> "Absolutely." And it made it bigger and it made it perfect and it took maybe 4
87. 18:39minutes. And I was just thinking, I've had a web design company for 20 years. The amount of back and forth Yeah.
88. 18:46>> iterations you'd have with a client just to move that one line of copy up to the right spot was probably 2 weeks of work
89. 18:53in the early 2000s. Just by you have the coders do it, send it back to the client for approval, they'd mark it up for
90. 19:00changes, you'd take it back to the devs, they'd swear and throw their coffee cup across the wall and say, "No, it's fine
91. 19:05the way it is." And you're right. Can't be done. >> fixed it. This whole process just got condensed down into 4 minutes.
92. 19:16Yeah. I'm actually insufferable when it when I get the feedback it can't be done. I I have no tolerance for that.
93. 19:24But if you click on community uh at the top, you'll see like the classic vanilla recipe cup recipes. This
94. 19:31is the what a finished recipe looks like. So this is my daughter's school project that she did. So cool.
95. 19:40And uh and and then you can edit that and put the back story in. Well, that's cool. recipe-tin.com uh and then I I guess we should probably
96. 19:51tell the listeners here that if you are intrigued by this for mastermind subscribers in the AI salon in May, we're going to be doing a
97. 20:03four-week sprint uh for lovable and working with lovable coming soon. >> That's so cool. It'll be starting next month.
98. 20:14There's such good things going on in mastermind. We've got um the other thing you should pay attention to Andy's um workshop on um
99. 20:24unhooking your identity from your job, your job from your identity. Um that starts on the 14th, I think. So mid next
100. 20:32week. So if you haven't signed up for that and you're in the mastermind, please go do that. You know, if and if and you want to
101. 20:43explore that, which I think would be fascinating. Like one of the things that hit me when we were doing the great
102. 20:48repurpose stuff when we were coming up with it. Like in my mind I was like, oh my my identity's not tied to my job. And then
103. 20:56I started thinking about like how I introduce myself at parties and it's like it's totally tied to my job.
104. 21:03It's totally tied to the stuff I do. And uh and that's what we're all going to be confronting, which is just wild. Um
105. 21:14Let's go look. If anyone has anything they want to talk about, pop that over in the Rick Olson's in the house. Cheers,
106. 21:20everyone. Hello, Rick. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. And And Aunt Gert uh on TikTok, all good. Trying over and
107. 21:28over again. It's like riding a bike. It really is. You know, you have to um everybody thinks that AI and vibe coding is
108. 21:36one prompt magic where you just Yeah. >> type in a prompt and get a response. And And it it this is we're all nearly 200
109. 21:46um prompts in on this project for just one site. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, you know, listen, it's it's the same HT Snowday was talking about
110. 21:57this la- last night on the salon that it's um like the the coding part itself happens much faster, but the curation, like what what we're
111. 22:08now spending most of our time on is is it what we want it to be, which, you know, in the end, that's a lot of what
112. 22:14coding is, too, right? You know, yes, that technically works, but it kind of sucks. And let's tweak it till it gets
113. 22:21better. We're just doing that with English language right now, which is which is very cool. Um I'm just looking on on the Twitter to
114. 22:30see if there's anything interesting. All right. And I am uh I'm going to duck out here backstage in just a minute. But before we do, in the
115. 22:41spirit of vibe coding, if you count to 10 and then go back and uh refresh Recipe here. Um If I go to recipe
116. 22:54>> updating the site to to match that. And if you grab that URL and uh go back through and try to create a new recipe um
117. 23:06using that same YouTube video. Oh, Lovable seems to think that it's fixed all of your concerns. Let's see. Let's see what it says. Nope.
118. 23:22Mhm. Yep. All right, so she's talking now. Let's see if we get the the big error.
119. 23:37Generated. All right, let's see. Mhm. What's the story? These classic peanut butter cookies are
120. 23:53beloved family favorite passed down through generations with the perfect balance of sweet and savory. They're sure to bring a smile to
121. 23:59everyone's face. And I also want to point out that you are in editing mode. And you can watch the video in editing
122. 24:08mode, which was another one of your uh Yep, that was a gripe. That's been fixed. >> And you can also change your visibility
123. 24:13from either private, so it's only available to your login, or public, or private with a link. So, just like Google Docs, you can either
124. 24:23share it through link or share it publicly to the community, or share it to everybody. All right, there's Grandma's cookies.
125. 24:33Okay, so here's another you want to you want to um uh whatchamacallit? Uh a gripe? Not a gripe. This is not a gripe. This
126. 24:42is This is a nice-to-have. Um either generate or have a thumbnail on the on all of the recipe cards recipe card. Uh-huh.
127. 24:52And then here's This is a gripe. Um you should be able to um delete like this is this is a failed one, but I can't delete it. If you if
128. 25:02you go into view it, you should be able or edit it, you should be able to delete it from the editing. My concern we had actually
129. 25:09actually that was something Yeah, we had the trash can in the corner. My I didn't want somebody to fat finger recipe
130. 25:15>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm I'm I support that. Um dessert cookies so it automatically
131. 25:23tags it. This is very cool. Add your story. So cool. Half a cup of unsalted butter, cup of peanut butter.
132. 25:39Yep. So if I go edit, I'm going to say one fork.
133. 25:58One fork. You got to have a fork. I know it's not an ingredient, but it is. See, using a fork. I swear if you cook save and it breaks
134. 26:13the system, I'm deleting Lovable. Save. Boom, recipe successfully saved. So that's So here here would be a a nice
135. 26:27to have interface live wise. When you save it, it dumps you either into preview mode or it dumps you into view mode. Probably preview mode.
136. 26:38But that's super cool. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your feed you and Grandma Jean's feedback in the AI Life
137. 26:47Hacks section of the AI Salon. Kyle the hacker. I don't I do have So So one of the things that is a I have kind
138. 26:57of a reputation in Storyvine and I had this at agency.com and I had this back when I worked for Eastwest Creative. Um
139. 27:06I can break software within 5 minutes. This actually this No nothing here really broke. There were just some
140. 27:13little minor enhancements. Nothing really broke, but I'm really good at breaking stuff quickly. I don't know what it is. I just I I
141. 27:22think it's cuz of my ADD. I move fast and when when you move fast, you do things in a different order than people that think about [ __ ]
142. 27:31Yeah, and that is um the power and I guess kryptonite of Lovable is it moves at the speed of ADD and Yeah. it
143. 27:46makes it very hard to walk away from projects because you could just keep generating, keep creating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Keep iterating. Yeah.
144. 27:59Um here's something I thought would be interesting to do tonight. It seems pretty apparent I've heard as early as tomorrow or next week that
145. 28:12we're going to get the new the latest model from OpenAI which apparently is going to redeem them for how shitty their last models were. Um
146. 28:22and it's it's apparently mythos quality. That's That's what I'm hearing. I think that's probably a lie. But um let's see. Chat GPT
147. 28:39When testing, I love breaking things. Devs love me. Devs actually do like it when you break stuff. Um I love this app, Brandon. If you ever
148. 28:50need help hardening the application, let me know. Dude, um, so here's the thing. I would take Gareth up on that, um, unless you've
149. 29:00done a hardening pass on your own, but that implies to me that Gareth's in there hacking, and he's probably got
150. 29:06your social security number, Brandon. Uh, I would take him up on I will say Lovable gave this a One thing
151. 29:14Lovable does really nicely is it does give it a free security review and allow you to try to plug up It'll run an AI
152. 29:24analysis on your site before you publish it. Oh, that's cool. >> deems that you have flaws or holes, it will offer to fix
153. 29:34them without charging you credits. So, >> smart. early on, they were like, people were publishing leaking sites because
154. 29:42they didn't have the credits to fix them and patch them. So, Lovable says, "We got to fix that." So, they allow you to fix them for free.
155. 29:49That being said, I trust Gareth more than I trust Lovable AI. Yeah. >> Gareth, you feel free to, uh, help me
156. 29:56harden that because we're going to have a bunch of, uh, Jewish grandmas testing this thing a week from Saturday, and I
157. 30:03really need to make sure that they have a good experience with it. Yeah, that's really good. And he said he'll help with
158. 30:10with bugs bugs as well. So, that's really cool, finding and patching bugs. Super cool. Well, you got my angry Gen
159. 30:16Xer things. I just want things to look less unfinished. Um, Gareth can actually go in there and make sure [ __ ] shit's working.
160. 30:24I I I told everyone in the, uh, Life X Club that once we hit our first 100,000, we're paying dividends to everybody who
161. 30:31participated and helped us, uh, bring the app to life. That's beautiful. All right, so so here's actually a serious question. Are
162. 30:39you going to launch it in any way? Is is is there is there an aspiration to turn it into something that is a you know
163. 30:49a freemium model or you do a uh an iPhone app as well like like how ambitious are you going to get with it?
164. 30:57Yeah, you know, the I think the early uh response that we're going to get from friends and family are going to tell us
165. 31:04a lot about the appetite in the market for it. Uh-huh. At some point my Gemini Cloud account is probably going
166. 31:13to get depleted to the point where I'm going to throw at least some sort of paywall at a certain number of recipes up there just
167. 31:20because I've got to cover hard costs. But, you know, if there's a potential of and there's a need in the market for it,
168. 31:28we we see it being something that could be commercially viable and you know, I don't think any of us did it to make
169. 31:36money with chat GPT, but if it solves the problem and there's profit to be made, then we will gladly solve that
170. 31:42problem and reap the rewards. I have a feature idea. Do you want one or you tight you are you like can we just launch this thing now?
171. 31:50No, we've got six in the can. I mean, come on. It's it's it's five coding. I mean, we might build it in the marathon or the the not marathon
172. 31:59the sprint inside of the lovable workshops if you give it to me. I'll give you the here's the idea. Um create um like family member
173. 32:13like like avatars. So, you could have like grandma, mom, you know, daughter, you know, so so basically you create a family of people
174. 32:23and then under those people are their recipes. So, basically when you when you create a a person tied to a recipe, that becomes
175. 32:31a user that shows up in like a family panel. So, like a view could be the the family view and you have like grandma
176. 32:38and then you have her recipes listed under her and then mom and her recipes listed under her. It's it would it's
177. 32:43kind of a internal family leaderboard. Oh, yeah. Like No, no, no. The uh I I was waiting for you to finish your
178. 32:58thought and also processing it. So, it it's uh you know, almost like a sorting method instead of having all
179. 33:05the recipes you could group you could group them under grandma and have AI representation of grandma that talks about her
180. 33:14her collection of recipes. Yeah, something like that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's it's basically a
181. 33:19filter filtering and sorting thing, but you do it as a family unit. And it would sort of encourage people like well, if
182. 33:25mom has a spin on grandma's recipe or we have great grandma's recipe. Like you could that would be really cool have
183. 33:31generational recipes in there. And maybe dad's got his, you know, barbecue meat you know, putting putting ribs on the on
184. 33:41on the smoker recipe. Um yeah, that'd be pretty cool. I love it. It it is it is a Frankenstein project of the community and so
185. 33:52>> Yeah. you know, we've had at least 12 different people that have been transient in the AI Life Hacks that have
186. 34:01had a hand in building this over the past 6 months. So, it is one of those that takes a village type of situations.
187. 34:07So, thanks everyone. We really appreciate your support. And we'll be meeting our next Life Hacks Club meeting
188. 34:12is the 22nd, which is Earth Day. So, You know, you know what's you know, let me throw another another idea out there.
189. 34:20This is this is not about the app itself. This is about how you Like I don't know how Gwyn's going to do
190. 34:25this, but like one of the things that could be kind of fun. You know how you do have sessions? Well, like these
191. 34:30things, right? I come on and I show you how to build stuff with whatever um that that I occasionally still do. Um
192. 34:39having Gwen or you or someone like do us do a like a half-hour session or or a, you know, a 15-minute session
193. 34:49where you actually walk people through the app and show them how to use it and then maybe even get them to log in and create an account and
194. 34:56like do do a hands-on thing would be really cool. So the the the event on the 18th is is a larger symposium and they're going to have a
195. 35:05booth there and they've got an assembly line planned where the first person's going to register them and help them set up their username
196. 35:15and password and write it down and then the next person's going to be sitting there with an a camera and record their
197. 35:21first recipe and then log in and upload their first recipe. That's the cool part. They're going to have like this assembly line and actually
198. 35:31we were talking about how the fact that Lovable tends to remember your login credentials over multiple browser
199. 35:38sessions, which is good except if you're trying to do a high volume throughput like that. Yeah. So between the end of Life Hacks an hour ago
200. 35:48and now and fixing your YouTube thing, I also created an event registration link that's buried in the site. So if you go to recipe
201. 35:57-kin.com/event you just have a a portal that you could just sit there and put people's name, email, and password and then it just
202. 36:05registers them in the database in the back end without actually logging you in. So she's able to just turn and burn.
203. 36:13That's really cool. That's so cool. I love that idea. I love You know what's really cool about the the assembly line,
204. 36:20getting people signed up and trained up and all that sort of stuff is it's not about AI. Right? This has got
205. 36:28nothing to do with AI. This is about grandma's recipes, right? And like making it easy for people to share
206. 36:34those. It's like it's really a gift. And then at some point if someone goes, "How did you make that?" You can tell them,
207. 36:39but it's like that's not what it's about. Which seems right. Like that seems like where we're going. Yeah. Garrett, I live in Claude.
208. 36:50This is a great opportunity for UX user research. I would agree with that. Yeah, this is going to be a beast,
209. 36:59Brandon. You're going to have to I think you might have to pit pass the tin cup to get to get some extra lovable credits
210. 37:06cuz I have a feeling you're going to be blowing through some credits. Once you get this thing in the wild, this just
211. 37:12happened to us at Storyvine. I was I was in Orlando with our our client there. And uh you know, we had like I don't know, probably 70 or 80
212. 37:22different sales reps download our app and use it and film and test videos and things like that. And uh
213. 37:28man, you you think you cover everything in testing, but new. You learn all sorts of new things. I'll give you one more that we haven't
214. 37:38publicly talked about yet, but it's it's ready for prime time. If you open a new tab and go to vibe greeting.com. Uh-huh.
215. 37:49This is my other side project that I've been working on that actually turned into a real thing. Oh, cool. Make it real 99 occasion. We'll go
216. 38:01>> What this is is a Yes. Uh an AI creation. So, you remember the kiosks back in the 90s at like whatever CVS used to be, Revco, or
217. 38:13Walgreens where it was in the American Greetings aisle where it would actually custom and print a card
218. 38:20for you. Have you ever seen see those? Yeah. So this is basically that concept where you're taking an AI generated image and AI generated uh
219. 38:32greeting on the back. And then I'm using a third party called Handwritten which prints it on demand and actually mails out the card. And so
220. 38:46as my final test before I took this live, I did one for my parents for their anniversary and sent them a
221. 38:54greeting card with a caricature of them on vacation and a the greeting on the back that I edited after the AI came up with it and
222. 39:02I just sent it to them in the mail without telling them that it this was happening. And they're like, "So we got an
223. 39:09interesting card in the mail today." I'm like, "Cool, cool, it worked." That's great. Did they care if it was AI?
224. 39:20They asked me how I got their likeness. They like, "Did you use that AI stuff you're telling us about?" I'm like, "Yes, I did."
225. 39:27That's really funny. That's hilarious. And how did you get Is this side if is the size of the cards being pulled from
226. 39:37the print on demand API? Uh yeah, it it looks at the size that it's doing in it and it previews it accordingly. That's really cool.
227. 39:47Regenerate. Is this Nano Banana the back end? Yep. That's funny.
228. 40:20>> So, the next effort around this is going to be to figure out and to spend some time with AI trying to figure out how to market these and
229. 40:32like this one in particular, I want to throw some like sponsored Facebook ads around it, but I'm going to let AI help me analyze
230. 40:41where the cost run is cuz, you know, when I'm only charging $10 to send the card, most of that is tied up into the
231. 40:49production, shipping, mailing of the card. So, the margins aren't huge. It's a volume play. Yeah. But, we're
232. 40:59trying to figure out like you see these all the time of the these sponsored ads on Facebook. Like, I got to make sure
233. 41:06that I'm not spending $1,000 to sell one greeting card. Like, that's not going Um and you could very easily do that
234. 41:13with AI with marketing. Um and Facebook budgets and Google Ads. So, and the next iteration of this is to try to use AI to
235. 41:22figure out how to optimize towards exposure because it used to be that ideas were easy, execution is hard. Execution is becoming easier, but
236. 41:35delivery and that last mile and telling people about the thing in the sea of noise that is the internet has become
237. 41:42the new difficult part of this. No, it's this is really important and and one of the things I would encourage you to do, Brandon, is
238. 41:51make videos and you might even have a video on the on the homepage. Like, rather than that being a generic
239. 42:00thing, like maybe that generic thing there, but maybe down here or or maybe maybe you do two do dual columns or something like that where
240. 42:09you've got a video of of you saying, "Hey, I'm Brandon. You know, here's here's why I made this." Because I I
241. 42:17think we're coming into this place where everyone's going to be able to copy every site. But like only Brandon can do
242. 42:24Brandon's vibe greeting maker. You know what I mean? Like I would find a way to get your voice in there, whether it's a
243. 42:30video or or, you know, "I'm Brandon and and, you know, I love my family and this is in the spirit of that and, you know, click here to learn
244. 42:39more about me" that takes you in. Something that right up front doesn't make it just a generic vibe greeting
245. 42:45thing. That it's that it's your vibe greeting thing. That that feels important to me. I'll have my HeyGen
246. 42:51avatar do the interview and then I can do it in multiple languages. There you go. You're right. It's it's it's
247. 42:57personalization at scale. Yeah, exactly. >> the audience, you know, the if you build it, they will come mentality only goes so far.
248. 43:06Yeah. But yeah. Yeah. Vibe greeting and recipe kin, two of the latest innovations from the AI life hacks test kitchen. That's so cool.
249. 43:15It really is cool. And not for nothing, somebody's got a birthday coming up, so. There you go. Maybe you're going to Go
250. 43:28go make some greetings. Go make some cards and so does it when you make a greeting and go to send it, you put in
251. 43:35the person's address and and the the API site does all that? Mhm. That's super cool. Real robotic handwriting. Oh, I have a
252. 43:48Do you want another um Do you want another whatchamacallit? Sure. Um Describe the message. Optional, heartfelt. Let's see.
253. 44:06Describe look and feel. Um a peanut butter jar and a half-eaten spoon of peanut
254. 44:20butter. And then we'll say describe the message. Um Stop eating out of the peanut butter jar.
255. 44:38So, uh it it for Aunt Gert and Jason in uh TikTok, it absolutely like Mr. Deeds working on uh cards uh trying to send them to
256. 44:50American Greetings. If anybody has a contacted American Greetings, they want to buy this site from me and and turn it
257. 44:56into an American Greeting and American Greetings uh site, I would be happy to uh sell out to them. There you go. Or Walmart. Um
258. 45:07so, it would be good to have Yeah, you can't do it. It would be good to have You have described the message as
259. 45:14optional and then the tone. It would It would be good to have like some sort of toggle here that I could like a a checkbox that says
260. 45:22just put this exact text into the card rather than generating the the text of the card. Like if I'm a writer and I
261. 45:30know what I want to write, I could write it right in there and then I not have to edit it after. And then the other thing, this is a
262. 45:36subtle one, but but it it'll be a good one, I think. Let's Let's let it generate yield card.
263. 45:50May your New Year be filled with much sweetness and comfort as your favorite midnight snack. You are the heart of
264. 45:55this home, but for the sake of your health health and our shared pantry, please start using a spoon instead of
265. 46:01your fingers. Life is better with you by my side, especially when we're sharing everything except the germs of the
266. 46:08peanut butter jar. That's pretty funny. Um, so here's the thing. So I'm in classic script. When I go edit message, it changes the font.
267. 46:16And same with this. You have it have it have the the when you edit have it be in the same size and font as the the preview.
268. 46:27Especially when you have something like this where it's a big font and then you go to edit it and it's much smaller. Cuz people will write
269. 46:35too much in the small thing and it will truncate. But it's also just it'll just be less jarring. Get it? Jar, peanut butter jar. Get there?
270. 46:50This is very cool. Very cool, man. Love it. >> Yeah, and if you want to learn more about the process, mastermind next month
271. 46:58will be will be walking through all of it live and on demand. Beautiful. >> Watch the beautiful beautiful beautiful.
272. 47:05Pull the producer card and say go to community.thesalon.ai and head over to AI life hacks and share your thoughts. Yeah. Perfect.
273. 47:17Beautiful. And that's a mastermind class, the lovable one, right? Yes, but today's AI life hack session, which will
274. 47:24be posted shortly, is the TLDR version of that, the the readers digest version of that. It's it's the
275. 47:32entire four-week course crammed into one uh fever dream of an hour-long session. Right. Cool. Beautiful.
276. 47:47Thank you for your assistance, David. Oh, interesting. All right. Um, here's what I thought might be fun. What
277. 47:57I'm not going to do a ton of this. But like I haven't gone and looked at the chat GPT options in a long, long time. Um
278. 48:09So I figured we'd just click around the interface. This might be good to just click around the interface and
279. 48:16and see what the hell's going on here. Notebook LM is now in Gemini, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
280. 48:30All right, maybe we'll play with that tomorrow. Um okay. So remember the the pull-down menu for chat GPT models used to be this
281. 48:40nightmarish complex of of all the different model types. What they've done here is pretty smart. There's just instant for everyday chats,
282. 48:51thinking. And let's see. I can turn that off. And I assume I can turn it on. No. Oh, I see what I did. Okay, I see what
283. 49:06you do. So you go thinking. Oh, this is interesting. So you either go instant for everyday chats like um write me a sonnet about
284. 49:22um packing tape. It's not wicked fast, is it? And that's not a sonnet. Oh, yeah, it is.
285. 49:374 4 Three sets of four and a two, is that right? Maybe. A humble roll translucent taught and
286. 49:51grace. Taught with grace. Okay. Um So, you go instant gives you quick, and then you go thinking, and now there's a
287. 50:01thinking menu, and you can go thinking standard, thinking extended. So, thinking extended is going to blow
288. 50:07through your your tokens more, but um that's that's interesting. And then if you click on the plus button
289. 50:14here, add photos, recent files. That's cool. Add from library.
290. 50:34Huh. All right. What else? Create image, deep research, web search. I don't know the difference between those two. Add sources, canvas.
291. 50:51This is still a mess, this menu here. Agent mode. More available on April 17th. 39 agent modes left. Huh.
292. 51:09I want you to find me health care agencies in San Fran cisco
293. 51:28that are small to mid-sized, and then find
294. 51:47phone numbers emails for top strategy people and or founders. Top strategy people,
295. 52:04innovation people, and or founders. Compile this into a
296. 52:20CSV. Gareth on YouTube. The Daily AI show with Beth Bryan and he joins at 7:00 a.m.
297. 52:36Why use agent mode when you can use Atlas? Um I don't know. I've never used Atlas. Is Atlas good?
298. 52:51I downloaded Atlas when it came out. Gareth is going to be joining their daily AI show starting tomorrow and
299. 52:58he'll be on as a guest periodically is what he was saying. That's what I was saying. >> Oh, cool. That's awesome. Oh,
300. 53:05Atlas. We There's something else we forget, Kyle. Atlas is the ChatGPT browser. Yeah, I know. I downloaded it and never really used it. So.
301. 53:19I also posted in challenges and competitions that um starting next week uh Perplexity is doing a The billion-dollar idea? Yeah.
302. 53:33uh hackathon. Eight weeks to a billion-dollar idea. And it's you're putting teams together, right? Uh yeah, but it could be a a single
303. 53:43person you know, you just have to compete be competitive. But, they want you using paper >> coolest to put together like like salon
304. 53:52cohorts, you know? Four or five person teams where there's people who are good at different things. That'd be kind of fun.
305. 54:02Rick McCauley and I are going to be back down hacking at a Lovable event next weekend actually. Uh, trying to >> In Miami?
306. 54:10Yeah, in Miami. Trying to bring a a a cancer uh uh treatment uh AI assistant to life. Oh, wow. That's cool. Um, my suggestion about um
307. 54:24getting together small teams seems to be generating some excitement. Jason's like, "Who wants to be on my team? I'm a
308. 54:29thinker." Dr. Jay, yes. Silver Fox into it. I exclusively use it now in beta testing Google Disco browser and it's decent.
309. 54:40But, it crashes a lot. Salon Vikings, GPT Atlas browser. Um Atlas. I wonder if I have it.
310. 54:56I don't. All right, let's go get it. Like, what's good or bad about it? Gareth.
311. 55:11AI Salon hackathon Chat GPT Atlas, download for Mac OS.
312. 55:28What program would I be able to make my own music like 30-second songs for background in videos? Um For for background music, there used to
313. 55:39be a site called Refusion, which was kind of a loop an AI-powered loop assembler that was really good for that kind of stuff.
314. 55:50That got eaten by and became producer.ai. So, there's there's three major ones. You can do it a little bit with Gemini,
315. 56:00but it kind of sucks right now. There's Suno, which is the big mac daddy. There's um Udio. Both of those got acquired by
316. 56:12major music labels, and they have weird ownership stuff now. And then there's producer.ai. Those are the three biggies that I know of.
317. 56:22And then there's some open-source stuff just came open. Uh some open-source music stuff. I I see people po- posting about it. But if you
318. 56:32want to do open-source, you have to be you have to be geeky. You have to understand what GitHub is and how to,
319. 56:39you know, pull down repos and do whatever the [ __ ] you need to do there. Um set up your new profile. Continue. Allow.
320. 56:51Sure, we'll import from Chrome. We'll grab that. Oh, let's do Let's turn all these off. Import.
321. 57:06It does everything in the chat GPT, but it also has agent mode, so it's an agentic browser. Allow access to the keychain.
322. 57:28Every search is a chat GPT conversation.
323. 57:51Um isn't there a
324. 58:14Isn't there a chat GPT mode? Find the best restaurants near me. Have you tried Google Google Gemini's new music generator? I haven't, it
325. 58:28sucks. Unless it got better. Which is possible. Safe prompts in chat GPT Atlas. Oh, that's cool. So oh, safe prompt. Nice.
326. 58:43Chat search, images, videos, news.
327. 59:00Does Cartesia do um music? I thought Cartesia just did voice. Everything does everything now. Yeah, I know.
328. 59:31>> So, ask anything. Um How What is the best dumpster price for my house?
329. 1:00:05TikTok been My son is a software engineer and would lose his mind if I told him I was in a Hang on. in a hackathon. Oh, you definitely have
330. 1:00:16to be in a hackathon and tell him you're in a hackathon. That's awesome. That is beautiful. Um All right, Atlas is interesting. I'm
331. 1:00:26probably not going to use it just because I don't really know. Let's How's this thing doing? Is it done? No.
332. 1:00:41Understood. I'll research health care agencies in San Fran that are small to mid-sized. I'll gather phone numbers and emails.
333. 1:00:52All right, it's doing its thing. I mean, I think if you're smart, you
334. 1:01:07should grab Gareth or Brandon or Vicky or Danielle. Like, there's a bunch of people in here who've done some cool vibe coding.
335. 1:01:22I'd get on a with someone clever. You know what I just realized? Not that you care. But you know I've been like sort of like
336. 1:01:35sick for five nights where my my face just fills up. Now I just realized I've got like fluid in my left
337. 1:01:43ear and it was my left sinus that was getting all crunchy. So whatever's whatever's in me is just traipsing around my skull.
338. 1:01:52So after final fi- several layoffs, AI made my life weird. AI made my life weird. Oh. I finally got the job to sell software for a company.
339. 1:02:06The software is easy. That's super cool. Sorry Kyle, that sucks. I know, right? Truth be told. A little I just realized it's making
340. 1:02:16clicking and popping sounds in there. Um AI made my life weird. Put Put in there what that what that means. Why How did it make it weird?
341. 1:02:29Oh dang, I wasn't finished typing. You can finish typing. I'll shout you out then. I thought it it's a cool story. Congrats that you got
342. 1:02:39a job. Cuz it's weird right now, man. Oh, scroll up. I typed the rest. To build
343. 1:02:54Should I copy them and sell my own? Um Yeah. Everyone else is going to do that. You should. But you know you got to figure out where
344. 1:03:08your ethics boundaries are, right? If you're selling for them, you know, don't poach their their lead list. I wouldn't do that. I
345. 1:03:17wouldn't go that far. Um but but what you could do So So there's there's a couple of things. So what you're hitting on gets to a new
346. 1:03:28marketing theory I have that's it's not a new marketing theory. It This is as old as the hills, but I think this is going to be only the
347. 1:03:37only thing. If you're marketing the service service itself, so let's say you're working for this company. You're selling their thing.
348. 1:03:47You're like, this is easy. I can make one of these. You're going to make one of these and you're going to add some features to it.
349. 1:03:53And then you're going to start talking about yours as being better than this one. But then someone's going to see
350. 1:03:56yours and copy it and and probably copy it in six ways to Sunday. So everyone's going to be talking about
351. 1:04:02their thing thinking that their features matter, but no one's paying attention to features anymore. But if what you did was you said, "Hey,
352. 1:04:10I used to work for this company and they had this thing and it was really cool and it was very simple and I liked it.
353. 1:04:16But I've been in the sales game for a while and I know how it could be better and so I'm going to tell you about my
354. 1:04:20version of this sales tool that takes it to the next level." Right? I think that starts to be how we start marketing things where human
355. 1:04:30beings are what are what elevate brands above the noise so that you can actually consider them. Um let's see.
356. 1:04:42Jump in here. We're going to open this numbers. Hello numbers. Hello numbers. Agency name. School of thought Abra Marketing.
357. 1:04:57Key contact person. Oh, this is cool. Huh. I I it for things in in San Francisco.
358. 1:05:14And it got me one in Houston. That doesn't help. With a 212 phone number. I have a feeling that phone number's wrong, too.
359. 1:05:26It only got me eight options. No. 1 2 3 4 5 options. Let's go try the same thing in GenSpark.
360. 1:05:42I have a feeling GenSpark's going to kick ChatGPT in the ass.
361. 1:06:02Steve Jobs said everything I accomplished in my life will be be meaningless in 20 years, irrelevant. Yeah. Um
362. 1:06:12Some things, you know, some things endure. Some things endure. Your first AI employee from $9.99 a
363. 1:06:28month.
364. 1:07:10>> Panda, do you have your hand raised? You don't have to raise your hand. Are you waving? I think you might be waving.
365. 1:07:26Parallel search. Oh, it's Garrett saying you moved over. Okay, got it.
366. 1:07:44TikTok pen. I'm trying to basically sell AI phone calls, AI marketing, AI social media, etc. Um like I said, everyone's going to be
367. 1:07:55selling everything and it's all everyone's going to sound the same. So, anything that you can do to establish yourself connected to that
368. 1:08:05service. Where you say, "Hey, I'm the best in the world at knowing what sales people need." And so this stuff I'm selling
369. 1:08:12you, I'm really good at this. I'm really passionate about this. I'm a contrarian. I'm an innovator. Like
370. 1:08:18there's a thing that you do that's sort of the best in the world. Right? And so why you're selling this
371. 1:08:25stuff or why you developed your tool is because you saw a better way. Like with Storyvine, I talk about you know,
372. 1:08:37I don't have the attention span to do really good video editing. And so I thought there's got to be a better way
373. 1:08:43to make short-form video that doesn't suck. And so I talk about that all the time and you know, that's part of part of our
374. 1:08:54brand is is, you know, talking about the origin story of like why it exists. I I going to be very powerful.
375. 1:09:02I saw a guy AI went wild and called some do not call list. The fine is $1,000 per call. ChatGPT says to stay for a few weeks. I mean
376. 1:09:17if if I am an engineer and I just quit and sell it myself or do I wait and learn sales for a few weeks? I would wait. Here's the thing
377. 1:09:29with waiting and if if you don't know sales if you're you know learn to sell for them and and you know,
378. 1:09:39figure out what's good about it, what's bad about it. Maybe you like it, maybe you don't. So, yeah, I would go do that.
379. 1:09:53Sales is the hardest part by far. All right, it looks like it looks like Jen Sparks already found more than Open
380. 1:10:10AI did.
381. 1:10:47New nickname dropped. Thank you AI Grandpa. I'll stay for a few weeks. Douche. AI Grandpa. It's It's not bad. I'll take
382. 1:11:04it, but A, I'm not a grandpa. B, I don't feel like a grandpa, but you know, I'm old, so what are you going to do?
383. 1:11:14Uh-oh, that's the main reason I was working for a big company because I hate the sales part of it. I just like creating the tool [ __ ]
384. 1:11:22Yeah, I know. Sales is Sales is a beast. Although, if you can partner up with someone who's really good at the sales
385. 1:11:29and loves the sales, and you can just nerd out on the product. This Listen, here's I think if if you want to understand the reason I said
386. 1:11:38um for the Perplexity hackathon groups of like four to eight people in the AI Salon should get together to do
387. 1:11:47those things. I think a unit like that, plus or minus seven so like between five and nine people Imagine getting together with a group of
388. 1:11:56people where you've got complimentary skills, you all like each other, and everyone's doing AI, and you sort of
389. 1:12:02figure out, "Okay, I'm good at finance stuff. I'm good at sales. I'm good at product. I'm good at, you know, making sure shit's secure, and
390. 1:12:09we're going to, you know, no one's going to get sued cuz our code is shitty." Um you get that group together, and you
391. 1:12:17just start iterating on ideas, and sort of putting ideas out there. I think a group of of five to seven
392. 1:12:24seven or eight people could do some real [ __ ] damage in a good way. Done. Here's your CSV. 10 companies.
393. 1:12:39Download the CSV. Let's go grab it.
394. 1:12:57>> Organization, Arena, Healthcare, AI medic- medication intelligence, Careem Health, value-based specialty care, GoGoGrandparent.
395. 1:13:21Hm. Co-founder and head of data strategy. Huh.
396. 1:13:37All right, we'll download that. All right, kids. Are we trying to get rich over here? No, I'm just my co-founder's heading to San Francisco.
397. 1:13:47If anyone here's in California, if you know anyone in San Francisco that's in pharma or healthcare that would be interested in or or
398. 1:13:56potentially AI, but healthcare-related would be better. My co-founder's going to be out there next Wednesday, and she's got some time she
399. 1:14:06wants to fill. I'm kind of sad about Sora ending in April. I continue making my AI videos with simplicity. Yeah, that sucks.
400. 1:14:16I saw some video on how AI is teaching coding, but not vibe coding like a course on the side on the side of the screen.
401. 1:14:23Yeah, there's going to be all sorts of really cool apps that are developed as as AI gets better and human beings get
402. 1:14:31better at figuring out what they want, we're going to see all sorts of new kinds of uh software formats that I think are going
403. 1:14:38to be awesome. Um let's do that. All right, I'm going to get out of here. I'm a little crunchy still and now that
404. 1:14:50I have water in my ear, I want to go deal with that. Sora was burning money. It was. We just need to figure out what we want. That's
405. 1:14:57the big the billion-dollar question for all of us is who are we and what do we want? What do you want? It's a brutal question.
406. 1:15:08Maybe not for you. For me it was a brutal brutal question. All right. Better than tonight is trust me. Yeah, I so do not envy that.
407. 1:15:24Tell the subs I said hi. When the peroxide is in your ears. Get well, Kyle. Thank you everybody. Thank you for the kind wishes. All
408. 1:15:34right, cool. I will see you tomorrow and I appreciate you all being here. Bye. Oh, wait. The regulars before I go. Hang on.
409. 1:15:44Brandon just saved it y'all. Let me reload. This one? Which one?
410. 1:15:59Oh, the trouble duet. What am I looking at? One more refresh. Although trouble sounds good. I did.
411. 1:16:16More activity? Reload. Are you sure you hit submit? I did. Are you in chat maybe? No.
412. 1:16:30My internet works just taking its time. Oh, there we go. Get off my ass generated the line. Champy's now a pitbull.
413. 1:16:47My favorite part of that is if you look down, the grass is just like Yeah. text. That's awesome. Cool, yeah.
414. 1:17:00All right, thank you, sir. Thank you, producer Brandon. Thank you, mods. Um I will see you tomorrow night. I'm going
415. 1:17:05to go drink water, maybe a tea. All right, later.