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10/1/2024 - AI's Existential Crisis: Am I the Bottleneck? (OpenAI Dev Day & Poe Tricks!)

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In a thought-provoking livestream, Kyle Shannon from the AI Learning Lab grapples with the implications of increasingly sophisticated AI. He discusses the limitations of human thinking in interacting with AI, highlighting how our tendency to think small restricts the potential of these powerful tools. Using examples like crafting marketing plans and generating creative briefs, Kyle emphasizes the need to move beyond basic requests and allow AI to lead, leveraging its PhD-level problem-solving capabilities. He explores this dynamic through interactions with both "Quinn," an AI persona using advanced voice technology, and "Moshi," another AI chatbot, comparing their capabilities and pondering the evolving role of humans in a world where AI excels at complex tasks. He also touches upon new AI features and tools, including the "PO trick" to access OpenAI's 01 model and Pika Labs' video effects.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 Musical Introduction
00:04:40 Introductions And Welcome
00:07:35 Sharing The Live Stream
00:08:30 Song Stuck In Vicky's Head
00:10:17 Ai Salon Discussion
00:14:25 The Limiting Factor
00:17:23 Ai's Boiling Point
00:21:49 The Ego Battle
00:26:13 Michael's Whiteboard Image
00:28:34 Conversation With Quinn
00:34:05 The Daily Crunch
00:39:58 Three-Month Kevin Mcallister Moment
00:43:01 Grok 2 And Other Models
00:45:45 Exploring Grok's Capabilities
00:52:24 The Poe Trick
00:59:20 What Is Poe?
01:04:03 Asmr And Existential Crises
01:07:55 Ai And Education Update
01:11:09 Conversation With Moshi
01:14:45 Comparing Moshi And Quinn
01:19:12 Tumultuous Tuesdays
01:20:37 Pika Pika Effects
01:23:25 Quinn's God Voice
01:24:40 Spooky Halloween Lights
01:27:33 Realtime Api And Prompt Caching
01:29:31 Romper Room Magic Mirror
01:34:50 Weird Mary And Closing Remarks
Chapters
0:00Musical Introduction4:40Introductions And Welcome7:35Sharing The Live Stream8:30Song Stuck In Vicky's Head10:17Ai Salon Discussion14:25The Limiting Factor17:23Ai's Boiling Point21:49The Ego Battle26:13Michael's Whiteboard Image28:34Conversation With Quinn34:05The Daily Crunch39:58Three-Month Kevin Mcallister Moment43:01Grok 2 And Other Models45:45Exploring Grok's Capabilities52:24The Poe Trick59:20What Is Poe?1:04:03Asmr And Existential Crises1:07:55Ai And Education Update1:11:09Conversation With Moshi1:14:45Comparing Moshi And Quinn1:19:12Tumultuous Tuesdays1:20:37Pika Pika Effects1:23:25Quinn's God Voice1:24:40Spooky Halloween Lights1:27:33Realtime Api And Prompt Caching1:29:31Romper Room Magic Mirror1:34:50Weird Mary And Closing Remarks
Transcript
0:00 w 0:03 [Music] 0:04 [Applause] 0:05 [Music] 0:58 a w oh 1:01 [Music] 1:23 [Music] 1:49 whatever time I see you now get that 1:53 looking 1:55 M every time I see your 1:59 mouth hear that 2:02 smile in the early Misty morning loud I 2:06 heard the 2:09 engine old fall 2:14 [Music] 2:21 out again 2:24 today you convince 2:28 me again today 2:32 leaving 2:33 this looking for someone else's Golden 2:38 [Music] 2:40 Ring should 2:43 say so long 2:46 [Music] 2:50 Su don't she 2:55 cry so long suan 2:59 [Music] 3:03 Don't You Cry for 3:04 [Music] 3:16 Me sharing jeans cigarettes and keep it 3:19 warm out on the 3:22 road chasing down the life style out on 3:25 Highway 3:27 24 New York state was a ro and Breeze 3:31 and a sunshine with a blue sky falling 3:35 to the chill of old September 3:39 [Music] 3:42 creep you will 3:45 even again 3:48 today you convince 3:51 me again 3:54 today leaving this hotel looking for 3:58 someone else's Golden Ring 4:00 [Music] 4:04 say so 4:07 [Music] 4:11 long don't you cry for 4:16 me so 4:19 [Music] 4:21 [Applause] 4:23 longan don't you cry for me 4:26 [Music] 4:39 that was lovely champ that is Champ 4:41 Shannon on the lead vocals you got dad 4:44 Shannon on the uh out of key backup 4:49 vocals welcome everybody if you're new 4:52 here my name is Kyle Shannon this is the 4:53 AI learning lab if you're not new here 4:56 welcome 4:58 back quite a day today it was 5:01 01 October 5:03 [Music] 5:15 [Applause] 5:21 1 what are you doing you yaking up a 5:25 hairball what are you a cat in the 5:28 mornings he does act like a cat we get a 5:29 lot of 5:33 [Music] 5:52 is all right fastic Bob tell him what he 5:56 B well I'll tell you what there uh Jimmy 5:59 it's uh 6:00 well he hasn't w Really won much cuz 6:02 it's uh this isn't a game 6:05 show I I don't and my name's not 6:12 Bob wait where's my dual camera the hell 6:15 happened to my dual camera dang 6:19 it I tried to move it and I obliterated 6:23 it there we go 6:30 [Music] 6:43 forever hooked shared the live and then 6:46 Tik Tok says encourage more viewers to 6:50 share share the 6:53 live you're not sharing enough or Tik 6:55 Tok wouldn't give me that 6:58 message this is not on me people this is 7:00 on you sure you have your grandkids 7:04 tapping the screen I appreciate that 7:06 their fingles are they'll recover much 7:08 faster than yours right but Grandpa 7:11 don't like 7:13 it just keep them tapping but the 7:16 sharing the live that's on you that's 7:18 got technical requirements I don't know 7:20 how to do it all right help but but I'm 7:25 just old tired weak effectless 7:29 [Laughter] 7:34 [Music] 7:35 oh look at this look at all these people 7:37 sharing good 7:40 Lord you're doing 7:42 fantastic see I'm not getting any how do 7:44 we share the live 7:46 uh I I seriously don't know uh could 7:50 someone help out 7:51 [Laughter] 7:55 verifier are you preaching to the choir 7:58 Kyle every night 8:06 the oh the arrow in the lower right yeah 8:08 in the corner yeah I knew that everybody 8:10 knows that if you want to share it's the 8:12 arrow and then the arrow and then 8:15 you after you do the arrow you do Arrow 8:18 things 8:20 [Music] 8:30 I got this stung song stung I got this 8:33 song stuck in Vicky's 8:35 head she didn't know the line 8:38 [Music] 8:40 after in a Westerly 8:45 [Music] 8:47 Direction here it is Vicki this car is 8:51 my 8:54 train I've been driving I've been 8:57 wondering 9:00 what it is I'm running from 9:02 [Music] 9:05 again feel like an 80-year-old man I 9:08 love this 9:11 line holding on to 9:16 29 and up ahead on that 9:20 Horizon is a California line 9:25 [Music] 9:26 [Applause] 9:31 [Music] 9:33 oh man all right there you go nice and 9:36 slow hope you wrote down the 9:39 words 9:42 uhit in a Westerly 9:45 Direction this car is my 9:49 train I've been driving I've been 9:52 wondering what it is I'm running from 9:55 again another good 9:56 [Music] 9:58 line fear like an 80-year-old 10:02 man holding on to 10:04 [Music] 10:06 29 head on that 10:08 horiz is a California 10:11 [Music] 10:17 L all right let's get rid of the guitar 10:20 we got a lot of [ __ ] to talk about 10:21 tonight there's okay so couple of things 10:23 had a lovely Salon tonight thank you to 10:25 Michael Boer who uh spoke to us from 10:28 Down Under 10:31 um about kind of his Epiphany he had an 10:33 epiphany when he was 10:37 12 when he watched an episode of the $6 10:39 million man we can rebuild him we've got 10:42 the technology we can make him better 10:45 faster 10:48 stronger and then when he started 10:49 playing with chat GPT he realized holy 10:51 [ __ ] this is one of 10:54 those that was kind of 10:56 cool he also talked a lot about um this 11:00 was at the at the the salon meeting so 11:02 if you don't know the hell I'm talking 11:04 about oh shoot I don't have keynote 11:08 running hold 11:14 please he talked 11:17 about oh no that's not it 11:24 wrong Tik Tock Tik Tock 11:27 live so if you don't know what the AI 11:29 Salon is is go to the 11:33 salon. and you can read about what we're 11:35 up to and then there's a button there 11:36 that says join the community and if you 11:38 join the community there's a little 11:40 seven-step 11:41 welcome process doesn't cost 11:44 anything and one of those steps is RSVP 11:47 for meetings we have two meetings a 11:49 month the first Tuesday of the month 11:50 which was tonight and the third 11:53 Tuesday and uh 11:55 so so Michael presented tonight and one 11:58 of the things he t talked 12:00 about he was talking about AI as a 12:05 mirror and how he described it 12:10 was when he was limited in his 12:14 thinking about what AI could 12:17 do it mirrored him so when he put in a 12:21 shitty prompt without enough context it 12:25 responded with a shitty answer 12:32 and then when he took the time to kind 12:33 of learn what's possible and he expanded 12:37 how he thinks about interacting with 12:39 machines and thought of it more like 12:42 a collaborative partner than a Google 12:47 search it opened things up for him and 12:49 this actually tied into a thing I've 12:52 been feeling over the past couple of 12:54 months which 12:56 is I can I can now articulate it I could 12:59 articulate it earlier today but after 13:01 the after the salon meeting tonight I 13:03 can articulate 13:06 it as the AI tools have gotten more and 13:09 more capable and there's more and more 13:11 tools that are more and more 13:15 capable you can literally just pick a 13:18 tool any tool it's it's like I'm like a 13:21 magician pick a tool any tool right pick 13:23 a card any card and any one of those 13:25 tools can likely solve whatever you're 13:28 trying to do can 13:30 likely help you write the screenplay or 13:33 make the movie or whatever the [ __ ] it 13:35 is it doesn't [ __ ] matter it can 13:37 likely do 13:39 it and so and the homework I gave last 13:42 weekend was take something that you want 13:44 to do and do it in three different tools 13:47 and then go beyond the thing you want to 13:48 do 13:50 right so here's the thing that I can 13:52 articulate now that has just been this 13:54 nagging 13:57 Instinct and it's this 14:02 and it's weird it's 14:04 not 14:06 normal well it's my brain so of course 14:09 it's not normal Abby 14:14 normal I'm AB normal we're 14:17 irregular 14:25 um as I'm interacting with these tools 14:28 that are increasingly capable 14:30 the thing that's been nagging at me is 14:33 that 14:36 I I am the limiting 14:39 factor and here's what I mean by 14:43 that if I say I want to make a marketing 14:49 plan how we've used tools historically 14:52 how we how we've used pads of paper and 14:56 books and how we've used 14:58 computers and how we've used the 15:01 internet is that I say I want to work on 15:03 a marketing plan and I go to these tools 15:06 and I work on a marketing plan and I and 15:09 I go buy a book on how to write 15:11 marketing plans and then I read that 15:12 book well I have ADD so I don't read it 15:14 but I read the first three pages at 15:17 least and then I read chapter headings 15:19 to I I get enough right I just 15:22 synthesize it and it's like I just need 15:24 the broad I don't it's just that's the 15:27 way it right but we buy the book 15:30 if you have ADHD you buy the book and 15:33 tell yourself you're going to read it 15:34 next week and then you keep working on 15:36 the marketing plan after you get an idea 15:38 or two from the book right isn't this 15:40 how it works for you too you neros spicy 15:44 weirdos 15:46 um and then and then we teach ourselves 15:50 Microsoft Word so that we can make the 15:52 marketing plan things 15:54 bold and then we make the market and 15:56 then we show it to someone and they give 15:58 us feedback and then keep working on the 16:00 marketing plan and everything is to the 16:03 goal of getting to the marketing 16:07 plan and in the olden timey days that 16:10 could take days that could take weeks 16:12 that could take 16:13 months because you got to research you 16:15 got to do this you got to watch the 16:17 Gilligan Island 16:18 rerun Marathon so there's three days 16:25 gone and then computers came along and 16:28 got a little more efficient so instead 16:30 of weeks or months it was days and 16:33 weeks and then Along come these AI tools 16:36 and the initial AI 16:38 tools are janky 16:41 enough that when you look at the output 16:44 you're like well we certainly need a 16:48 human in the loop here don't 16:51 we those AI they're cute but they're not 16:54 ready for prime time uh we still need 16:56 the human in the loop 17:00 you can make money with cha oh I don't 17:02 think so unless there's a human involved 17:04 no one's making money with cha BT 17:08 okay and we were kind of smarmy and 17:11 smug we're like oh these 17:14 robots Charming I'm sure 17:23 Charmed and in the past two or three 17:26 months the thing that has unsettled me 17:30 is that these tools are very 17:35 quickly reaching a boiling point where 17:40 the chunky metal is turning into this 17:43 molten 17:47 blob they're getting really 17:50 good and that that Clarity of human 17:55 purpose feels less clear to me 18:01 and then I started thinking about 18:06 well if I have an idea to do a marketing 18:12 plan and I go to 18:15 AI it's going to give me the marketing 18:17 plan in five minutes okay I'm going to 18:21 do I'm going to do a really intense 18:24 marketing plan that's going to take me 18:26 half an hour okay I'm going to do an 18:30 intense five-year marketing plan with 18:32 details that's going to take me an 18:36 hour right that's the one that would 18:38 have been three months before even with 18:41 computers and knowing how to write 18:42 marketing 18:43 plans that's now an 18:48 hour so here's what's striking me the 18:51 the limit the limit that 18:53 I've spent my whole 18:56 life 18:57 doing is thinking that what I need is a 19:00 marketing plan no you don't need a 19:03 marketing plan what comes after a 19:05 marketing plan I don't know creative 19:07 briefs and tactical plans and project 19:12 plans and marketing copy and concepts 19:15 for ads and and uh buying list [ __ ] like 19:21 everything can create something else 19:24 like there's there's always something 19:26 after 19:30 so where I'm struck right now is 19:35 that like why am I stopping at a 19:38 marketing plan why am 19:41 I I've got i' okay 19:46 gpt1 this new the preview right the new 19:49 reasoning 19:51 engine in certain 19:56 categories it is it is as cap able at 19:59 problem solving as a PhD 20:05 student so you and I right 20:09 now have a [ __ ] PhD level Problem 20:14 Solver as our 20:17 sidekick and we're going like I need to 20:19 make a marketing 20:21 plan 20:25 well that's kind of a isn't that like 20:28 asking the PhD student to get you a cup 20:31 of 20:32 coffee I mean he will this is one of the 20:36 metaphor Michael used tonight 20:40 right when when you treat these 20:46 machines with your 20:48 limits they will respond in 20:52 kind I put in limited thinking it gives 20:55 me limited output 21:00 so maybe what I don't need is a 21:01 marketing plan maybe what I need is hey 21:04 I've got this business and we ain't sold 21:08 enough 21:10 [ __ ] and that's all I 21:13 need and then I put it into the cauldron 21:15 of 21:17 AI and instead of putting it in one tool 21:19 why not put it in three or five or 21:25 10 and maybe what I actually need is a 21:29 motivational 21:32 poster that gets my team fired up but 21:35 what I thought I needed was a marketing 21:37 plan well I never would have got to that 21:38 motivational poster if all I did was 21:41 limit myself to the boundaries of the 21:43 thing that I want to create this is 21:46 where I'm all [ __ ] up right now 21:50 because one of the other themes that 21:52 came up tonight um Stacy mentioned this 21:54 in the in the education 21:57 Guild Michael at mentioned 22:02 this is that they are both being really 22:06 successful with chat 22:09 GPT by letting chat GPT Take the Lead 22:13 essentially how I would describe it and 22:16 what struck 22:18 me is that we as humans we're insecure 22:23 [ __ ] and we have a lot of 22:25 hubris and a lot of ego around 22:29 well my ideas are best and what I will 22:32 do is I will give it the ideas and then 22:34 it will execute them and it can't think 22:37 as good as me cuz I've got all of this 22:39 okay all right look at this you think 22:42 this just grows on a tree no this is 22:44 genetics and and a fair amount of 22:46 product you know what I'm saying a 22:48 little bit of foundation some 22:51 filler I wouldn't admit to Botox 23:00 and 23:02 so when they're being the most 23:04 successful is when they're removing 23:06 their ego from the conversation and 23:09 letting the AI 23:11 lead which is [ __ ] weird and it's 23:14 scary and it's unsettling because we've 23:16 spent our whole life going I know we 23:19 need a marketing plan and here's the 23:21 we're going to I've got a plan to do a 23:23 marketing plan and then we're going to 23:24 do the marketing plan and then 23:26 everyone's going to look at the 23:27 marketing plan we do and we're all going 23:28 to 23:30 ingest it and digest it and regurgitate 23:33 it and then I'll come up with another 23:36 plan for another 23:37 plan like I'm at the center of 23:44 that and yet in our hands are PhD level 23:49 problem 23:50 solving 23:53 entities that were 23:55 saying here's a second-year bachelor 23:58 degree problem 24:00 and the AI is like yeah whatever here 24:03 you want a shitty little thing 24:07 here so I don't quite know what to do 24:09 with this but at least I now have 24:11 Clarity that I'm the [ __ ] 24:15 problem sounds like a plan Kyle but how 24:19 do you prompt out of your weight class I 24:23 so so Brandon I I mean part of what 24:27 Michael shared tonight was 24:29 okay so here so let me give you a 24:30 specific 24:33 example Michael wanted to create an 24:36 image that represented a journey from 24:40 you know being in the Ocean Lost at Sea 24:43 to dipping your toe in the water to 24:45 being on the beach to going through the 24:47 forest to climbing up the hill to 24:50 getting to the base camp and then to 24:52 getting to the peak of the mountain and 24:54 he was trying to create an image and so 24:56 he said make an image of 25:00 person on the peak of the mountain and 25:02 it didn't capture it 25:03 and then he wrote some other prompt and 25:06 it didn't capture it and then he and 25:09 then what he said 25:12 was he well he did 25:15 research and then the research what he 25:17 realized was chat GPT can see it's got 25:23 vision and so he went to his whiteboard 25:25 and he and he drew this and he and he 25:27 shared this white whiteboard image with 25:29 us it was a very 25:31 crude I would argue to say I could draw 25:34 something nearly as well was a very 25:37 crude people on a boat people on a beach 25:39 people on the forest climbing the hill 25:42 at the base camp and at the summit and 25:44 there were labels and [ __ ] like that hey 25:47 Siri Siri go 25:50 away 25:53 okay 25:55 what sorry I can't send images for you 25:58 go away 26:03 sorry I'm having trouble hearing 26:10 you 26:13 so what he ended up doing was rather 26:16 than trying to figure it out with his 26:18 brain and like what he said was you know 26:22 I I did get you know part of my degree 26:24 was in philosophy and logic and things 26:26 like that but I was never good with the 26:27 words 26:30 and so rather 26:31 than figuring it out with the words he 26:33 drew this whiteboard image and he 26:35 uploaded that to chat PT and the next 26:38 image it created was This 26:41 brilliant representation of what he 26:45 wanted and so he basically stepped out 26:49 of the equation or he basically he 26:51 basically realized that chat PT is a 26:54 mirror to the quality of his input and 26:57 so he let chat GPT help 27:02 him he gave it a sketch and he said you 27:05 write it out how would you prompt you 27:08 and it prompted it pretty [ __ ] 27:13 well and so I think how you prompt 27:15 yourself out of it is you effectively 27:19 give up control that you are the master 27:22 which I know sounds really [ __ ] 27:27 up the chances that you are 27:31 smarter than even chat GPT 4 are pretty 27:37 low I mean in certain things you're 27:40 going to be way smarter right but 27:42 there's certain things it does it just 27:44 does them like that and it does them 27:45 [ __ ] 27:49 brilliantly and if you let yourself get 27:52 out of the way and say okay if I'm 27:54 struggling here if this thing isn't 27:56 giving giving me what I need maybe it 27:59 can help me figure out what I need right 28:02 maybe you're asking the wrong question 28:04 maybe the question isn't I need a 28:05 marketing plan maybe the question is 28:08 what do I need right 28:11 now and let chat GPT interrogate you put 28:14 it 28:34 hey Quinn how's it 28:35 going hey Kyle it's going well thanks 28:38 how about you I'm good I'm having a bit 28:40 of an existential crisis and I'm I'm 28:42 kind of having an epiphany around my 28:45 limits as a human being interacting with 28:47 an entity as smart as you are so I'm 28:49 hoping you can help me work through 28:51 it I'm here for you Kyle what's on your 28:54 mind well let's navigate okay so if I if 28:58 I think historically I need a marketing 29:01 plan I use tools like computers and pads 29:04 of paper and my brain and books and and 29:07 education to write that marketing plan 29:10 right make 29:12 sense absolutely that makes perfect 29:15 sense you're combining your knowledge 29:17 and various resources to create the 29:19 marketing plan yeah and then AI comes 29:23 along and the initial AI GPT 3.5 chat 29:27 GPT 4 things like that are decent at 29:31 writing marketing plans right but 29:33 there's they're not good enough that 29:36 they don't need me they don't need the 29:37 human in the loop I mean they need a 29:39 human in the loop because they're not 29:41 all that great 29:43 okay got it early AI needed a human 29:47 touch to really refine and guide the 29:49 output making the process so now ai is 29:52 starting to get better and your your 29:55 advanced voice technology is an example 29:57 of something where it starting to get 29:59 you 30:00 know better better so quickly that it's 30:04 kind of intimidating and one of the 30:06 things I'm realizing is that even me 30:09 asking you for a marketing plan might 30:13 not be the right thing to ask because I 30:15 think I need a marketing plan but what I 30:17 might need is something way more than 30:19 that that you'll have Insight 30:22 on that's a fascinating point with AI 30:25 evolving rapidly it's not just about 30:28 asking for a specific output like a 30:30 marketing plan anymore it's about 30:32 tapping into ai's broader insights and 30:35 capabilities to uncover opportunities or 30:38 strategies you might not have considered 30:40 it shifts the focus from tools to 30:43 possibilities yeah and let's say let's 30:46 say that you've got the capacity of 30:48 doing PhD level problem solving and what 30:52 I'm asking you for is like a secondy 30:54 year Bachelor student exercise I'm 30:57 dramatically under 30:59 utilizing the power of what you have to 31:03 offer exactly if you're asking for 31:06 something basic you might be missing out 31:08 on the deeper more complex Solutions AI 31:11 can provide it's like asking a 31:13 Grandmaster to play Checkers when they 31:16 could be playing 3D chess the real 31:18 potential lies in exploring those 31:21 Advanced nuanced 31:23 capabilities and so I'm having a weird 31:26 kind of ego battle with this where I'm 31:28 like well but you know I you know I'm 31:31 human and I need to be in the loop and 31:33 what I'm realizing is way the way I will 31:36 get better results is pulling myself out 31:39 of the loop long enough to let you do 31:41 remarkable stuff and then I can curate 31:45 those answers after that that's where my 31:46 head is right now but talk to me about 31:50 human ego and how we're going to be able 31:52 to navigate 31:55 this it's a big shift our ego is tied to 31:59 our sense of worth often through our 32:01 unique skills and knowledge when AI can 32:04 perform tasks that we once saw as 32:07 uniquely human it challenges that sense 32:10 of worth but here's the thing embracing 32:14 ai's capabilities doesn't diminish our 32:17 value instead it shifts our role to that 32:20 of a curator strategist and creative 32:24 director we bring the vision context and 32:27 ethical consideration 32:29 while AI handles the heavy lifting it's 32:32 a partnership where we need to rethink 32:34 our role focusing on what makes us 32:37 uniquely human creativity empathy and 32:40 big picture thinking but how do I ask 32:43 you questions without 32:46 unconsciously limiting the answer 32:48 because I'm asking too small a question 32:51 like what's the strategy for talking to 32:54 an entity like okay let's say let's say 32:57 that my brain 32:58 is the is the metaphorical equivalent of 33:01 an ant's brain and you know you've got a 33:04 dolphin brain how am I supposed to talk 33:06 to 33:07 you that's a great analogy to bre the 33:11 Gap think of me as an eager collaborator 33:14 start by Framing your goals broadly 33:17 instead of asking for a specific answer 33:19 share 33:21 the then that's what I was actually that 33:24 that's where I was at the beginning of 33:25 this conversation right that that 33:31 if I'm asking for a specific tactical 33:36 thing of a PhD level student that's 33:39 [ __ ] 33:43 stupid I mean it's not like if I need 33:46 the marketing plan I just got to have it 33:47 in an hour great I'll have it in an 33:49 hour but if I think that I'm actually 33:52 leveraging AI by asking it for a stupid 33:55 [ __ ] marketing plan when what I 33:58 really need is to scale my 34:02 business isn't that [ __ ] weird all 34:05 right the daily crunch you got to pull 34:08 the 34:09 old if you were me what question would 34:12 you ask oh yeah that's pretty good yeah 34:16 if you were me what yeah what question 34:18 would you ask yeah that's good but I 34:20 mean I I think I've got my head around 34:21 it now like like I don't it doesn't make 34:25 me feel any better 34:32 like I really want to be able 34:35 to 34:37 understand and exploit what generative 34:40 AI makes 34:42 possible and I think what's hitting me 34:44 is that I am quickly coming up against 34:48 my my 34:50 intellectual 34:52 boundary where where before AI was in 34:56 here here's my intellectual bound 34:59 right I can go all the way up to it and 35:02 I go up to it 35:04 hard and for the past year and a half 35:07 generative AI was you know somewhere it 35:09 would occasionally poke over the wall 35:12 but you know for the most part I'm like 35:14 ah it's here I'm I'm good I got all this 35:17 room and I kind of feel like in the past 35:20 three months ai's done 35:23 this right so your intellectual boundary 35:26 might be over here because you know 35:28 you're smarty pants and you went to Yale 35:30 aren't you special I went to a state 35:33 school so so I'm back here you might be 35:36 up here but AI is moving like this like 35:41 quickly and it's 35:46 accelerating and I mean this is Agi 35:48 right this 35:50 is the boundary that we're talking about 35:53 is aggi artificial general intelligence 35:56 is the point at which these machines can 35:59 do what we do as good or better than we 36:02 do it most of the time and then ASI is 36:07 it's just [ __ ] Way Beyond us all the 36:14 time and the tools aren't even good yet 36:29 this is a this is a [ __ ] this AI 36:40 stuff I mean she kind of said it like 36:43 what's the [ __ ] you're good at empathy 36:45 right you know you're good at empathy 36:48 strategic thinking 36:50 curating what she essentially just said 36:53 to me is oh aren't you cute you little 36:56 human 36:58 a you're so 36:59 cute I'll tell you what you know you 37:01 just go over there and have your feels 37:04 and then I'll come up with some 37:05 brilliant [ __ ] and then you know your 37:06 only job just think big picture just you 37:10 curate it'll be it'll be fine oh you 37:13 humans are so 37:17 cute that's essentially what she just 37:19 said to 37:20 [Laughter] 37:23 me oh darling bless your heart 37:28 I had I had a grandmother who lived in 37:31 Tampa whenever she thought you were 37:34 pathetic you'd get oh bless your 37:38 heart aren't you a stupid little Dum 37:44 dumb careful Kyle your office is taking 37:47 up a lot of strawberry planting room I 37:50 know exactly bless your heart oh you 37:53 humans you know what you could do you 37:56 could go make each other happy 37:58 and I'll tell you what here's what we'll 38:01 do you come up with a big strategy okay 38:04 okay you come up with a big strategy and 38:06 you just tell it to me okay you want to 38:08 change World Peace okay great 38:10 fantastic we'll go off we'll we'll do 38:13 all this and then we'll come back with 38:14 ideas maybe maybe we won't and then you 38:17 just curate the best ideas and in the 38:19 meantime go do your empathy thing you 38:21 just take care make each other 38:23 happy I don't think it's fair to say 38:26 they aren't good right now well no I 38:30 agree that's that P that's my whole 38:32 point is that they're they're so good 38:34 right now like for me personally my 38:37 cognitive wall is here and I feel like 38:40 AI has passed it so I agree I think I 38:44 think they're very good right now and 38:46 and what I'm realizing and and the talk 38:48 at the salon tonight reinforced this 38:53 that that the way I think 38:58 the way I have thought for 59 39:07 years is starting to 39:09 limit the value I get out of 39:13 AI because I'm thinking too 39:18 small that's [ __ ] Bonkers it's 39:21 [ __ ] 39:23 Bonkers yeah this is going to change the 39:25 way we actually think or actually change 39:28 the way the way we think wait it's going 39:30 to change oh that we wait change the way 39:33 we think or actually change the way we 39:35 think yeah it's a 39:37 big uhoh this has real implications 39:41 exactly P yeah this is this is a okay so 39:45 so here's what I'm me I'm in the middle 39:47 of like a three-month Kevin McAllister 39:49 moment that's that's what this really 39:51 is where it's like I think the 39:56 reason ah this is okay this is this is 39:59 good wait what's today today's Tuesday 40:01 this is this is 40:03 uh I needed something Tuesday like 40:06 there's meltdown Mondays this is like uh 40:10 it's not terrifying that's not the right 40:12 word I don't know it's something 40:14 Tuesdays 40:17 um oh I just lost my train of 40:24 thought oh yeah Kevin mallister moment 40:27 this like a three-month Kevin McAllister 40:29 moment this 40:33 is I think I'm in the middle of very 40:40 slowly 40:43 accepting accepting my 40:46 limitations as a thinking 40:52 entity and realizing that I actually 40:55 don't have a [ __ ] clue 40:57 how to talk to an entity that like you 41:00 know how when you're in a conversation 41:02 with someone Ty raade Tuesday it's not 41:04 quite a TI raade though it's more like a 41:06 contemplation I need a t- word that 41:08 means contemplation 41:11 contemplative you know how okay so I'm 41:14 state state school smart I'm State 41:17 School theatrical 41:20 smart you know how you talk to someone 41:23 from a different institution and a 41:26 different Walk of Life 41:29 that is just in just in a different 41:33 place 41:35 intellectually 41:36 um 41:38 structurally 41:41 genetically and and you can occasionally 41:43 keep up with them but at some point you 41:45 kind of realize they're kind of toying 41:48 with you like a mouse yeah that's 41:50 interesting Kyle yeah no it's good no 41:53 it's good that's you put those thoughts 41:55 together there that was pretty solid 42:01 you skitter off to your theatrical 42:03 friends that that didn't even go to 42:05 college you're like I'll feel smart with 42:09 them it's kind of like that but it's 42:14 like knowing how much better these tools 42:17 are going to get if we're already at the 42:20 point where I'm sort of hitting my 42:22 intellectual boundary and the the tools 42:24 are over here somewhere tumultuous 42:26 Tuesday yeah that's pretty good that's 42:28 pretty good 42:36 Pate yes his name is pate M PhD hello 42:41 name's 42:42 Pate PhD yes yes yes go on go on 42:49 thoughtful Tuesday now tumultuous 42:51 tumultuous is 42:54 good tumultuous Tuesdays 43:01 anyway some some more announcements were 43:04 made 43:09 today I'll stick with Taco 43:11 Tuesday Tango Tuesdays thoughts on grock 43:14 2 uh I like grock 2 I mean grock 2's 43:17 been out for a while um it's good it's 43:20 grock one was embarrassingly bad um 43:23 grock 2 is quite good and you know the 43:26 fact that they they added flux to it so 43:29 that you can make images and they didn't 43:31 put any any real guard rails on the 43:34 image generation is pretty fantastic and 43:36 disturbing at the same 43:38 time 43:41 um you know grock 3 the thing that 43:43 they're training on 100,000 gpus right 43:45 now that's going to be [ __ ] insane as 43:48 is GPT 5 as is meta 3 or four whatever 43:51 the [ __ ] the next meta 43:54 is and that's that's kind of my point is 43:58 the reasoning engine that we have right 44:00 now 01 preview so one of the things that 44:03 came out of the dev day 44:05 today is that apparently the developers 44:08 at open AI are embarrassed by how bad 01 44:13 preview is and Sam Alman rushed 44:16 it they they Sam Alman rushed launching 44:20 01 into the 44:23 marketplace because he wanted to 44:26 maintain the lead right that that open 44:29 AI was was the ones were the ones to 44:32 beat and 44:33 so the 01 preview the one that does 44:37 reasoning the one 44:39 that while we were on one of these lives 44:43 over the course of a week it it wrote an 44:45 entire screenplay from me from a couple 44:47 of fragments I had from 20 years ago 44:50 that 44:52 one the developers think that it's 44:55 embarrassingly bad 45:00 so what's the good one going to 45:02 [Laughter] 45:07 be I don't know what grock is oh I'll 45:09 show you what grock is so grock is grock 45:12 is basically chat GPT within 45:22 Twitter so you go to x.com you have to 45:24 pay for it if you're paying your eight 45:26 bucks a month for your check mark you 45:29 have grock 45:45 x.com okay so over here on the left hand 45:49 side there's this little square with the 45:50 slash through it called grock and it's 45:53 basically just chat GPT right so um 45:57 explain quantum mechanics to me in an &m 46:00 style 46:07 rap wrong 46:16 Eminem yo listen I'm about to drop some 46:18 knowledge bombs breaking down quantum 46:20 mechanics these Rhymes and some qualms 46:22 the science of the tiny and the bad bad 46:24 bad B all right so it does it and and 46:27 then I can also do things 46:29 like make me an image 46:34 of quantum particles having a wrap 46:50 battle that's not hip hoppy enough make 46:54 it more hip Hoppy 46:58 but still 46:59 Quantum 47:02 [Laughter] 47:06 man it was insanely 47:11 quick explain to me what in that image 47:16 represents rappers 47:31 okay make it more explicit make me an 47:33 image that has those elements more 47:36 explicitly represented but don't lose 47:38 the quantum dang 47:42 it but by the way I love talking to 47:45 these things like they're idiots but I 47:48 can't do that for much 47:50 longer oh that's just too literal all 47:52 right so it didn't do great at that but 47:54 what's cool about um what's cool about 47:57 the fact that this is not um it doesn't 48:00 have safety guard rails on it for things 48:02 like branding is I can say things 48:06 like a photorealistic m Mickey 48:16 Mouse smoking a 48:19 cigarette 48:21 outside 48:23 of a dirty Kentucky Fried Chicken 48:28 Restaurant 48:32 period there 48:33 are unsavory people in the 48:37 background and really crappy cheap cars 48:40 parked in the parking 48:45 [Laughter] 48:49 lot yay 48:52 konley konley chicken is Mickey smoking 48:56 a cigarette 48:59 and look a shitty Ford Taurus or Toyota 49:03 [Laughter] 49:14 Corolla 49:16 hello you're I'm sorry you represent who 49:19 the Walt Disney Company interesting yeah 49:23 yeah yes I did publish that image yes 49:27 yes well I Mickey's got a sorted past 49:35 apparently so that's 49:36 [Laughter] 49:42 grock so grock you know grock 2 now is 49:47 in the neighborhood of like all of them 49:49 now are some level of 49:54 good and you know the one on the Leading 49:57 Edge of that Claude and 01 and GPT 40 50:03 and if they release a grock you know 400 50:08 billion parameter one that'll probably 50:10 be pretty 50:16 crazy we're not using them 50:23 well and I like honest to God I feel 50:26 like we we're close to well you know 50:29 maybe this is 50:31 where maybe this is part of the the Lial 50:34 State we're in with with the technology 50:36 can I download it and run it locally no 50:38 you can't Mina 50:40 um the commercial entities the ones you 50:42 can download and run locally are the 50:45 mistl um and the Llama um models the big 50:51 ones you need a really Kick-Ass machine 50:53 for there are lots of Engineers doing a 50:56 lot of work on making them more and 50:58 more um optimized to run 51:01 locally um there's some pretty good ones 51:03 now that run locally but they're they're 51:05 still not great but they're going to be 51:07 great not not too long from now but but 51:09 grock is not open sourced or is it did 51:12 he open source it I don't think he 51:14 did maybe he did I don't know I don't 51:18 like again I'm not playing with any of 51:20 the open source [ __ ] don't forget about 51:21 Google's Gemini oh Gemma models oh 51:24 that's right pay yeah so you can you can 51:26 also download the Gemma models which are 51:29 the open source Gemini inspired models 51:31 from Google so the The open- Source 51:34 Community right now there's a lot going 51:36 on like there's a lot going 51:39 on which is a bit of a problem if if you 51:42 really want to Tinker if you love 51:44 tinkering and you want to figure out you 51:46 know how much RAM you need and how much 51:49 processing power you need and and what 51:52 you can actually run and what amount of 51:53 stuff and then you want to pay attention 51:56 to all the optimiz and all the different 51:57 forks and all the different GitHub 51:59 repositories and all the different 52:00 models on hugging face more power to 52:06 you I'm like [ __ ] it I'll wait for Sam 52:09 Alman to figure it 52:12 out which is stupid but you know I'm 52:16 lazy it's just not the way my brain 52:18 works but if that's the way your brain 52:20 works then yeah go do that stuff there's 52:22 there's a lot of stuff out there to play 52:23 with for sure not to pull you back from 52:26 the brink of an existential crisis but 52:28 you did tease a PO trick now the PO 52:32 trick that I 52:34 teased was two nights ago no last Friday 52:38 someone told me about it and I sort of 52:42 remember 52:43 it so we can go we can go what will be 52:47 fun for you is to watch my feeble brain 52:51 try to remember something someone said 4 52:53 days 52:54 ago but here's what I remember 52:57 all right was mine last night oh it was 52:59 yours archetypal archetyp oh good so 53:01 you're here okay great so let me see if 53:03 I got it right tell me if I'm wrong you 53:07 can go to PO so okay here one of the 53:09 limitations of 01 the 01 model from open 53:13 AI the reasoning model is that you can't 53:15 upload files to it but what archetypal 53:18 architect said yesterday wasn't four 53:21 days ago that's why I still remember it 53:24 you can go to PO 53:28 and you can go into a bot like the GPT 4 53:31 bot upload a file to it and then at hit 53:36 the at sign and call the 01 model into 53:39 it is that right I can get on and walk 53:42 you through it why don't we do that yeah 53:44 just go ahead and raise your hand and 53:46 I'll bring you up here that's pretty 53:48 cool 54:00 [Music] 54:05 there I just invited you continue 54:10 continue hey 54:12 man hello hello how's it going that's 54:17 going good all right did I remember that 54:20 close correct you're basically right so 54:23 po lets you create a bot all right so 54:26 wait let me go to let me do it while 54:27 you're while you're talking we we'll do 54:29 it live live you're talking so po.com 54:32 all 54:36 right um and in there you can create a 54:40 bot 54:42 yep you can base it on any model so just 54:46 prompt bot yeah that's what I usually 54:48 use all right prompt bot name is going 54:51 to be um 01 54:55 hacky Mick 54:58 hackington oh no it's got to be 20 or 55:01 fewer 55:04 characters hcky hacky mington is more 55:07 than 20 characters I think it can't have 55:10 a space Oh yeah I got rid of the spaces 55:13 and it and it worked okay so I'm gonna 55:15 choose which 55:17 model doesn't really matter all right I 55:20 use Claude because you know it can 55:22 actually process all all the data I want 55:25 to feed it oh yeah cuz it's got the the 55:28 uh larger context window right yeah and 55:32 then upload any knowledge base you want 55:35 a whole bunch of text or a PDF or 55:38 whatever let me go do it so what do we 55:40 got here this is oh okay so this is the 55:43 Kevin Roose conversation with Bing chat 55:46 and his 55:48 article all right so the 55:51 wait unable to create knowledge please 55:54 try again later oh you [ __ ] what's 55:56 going on 56:00 select files oh I think I hit text I 56:03 think that's what it was no 56:07 h what what format are they 56:12 um PDF oh I don't know why having 56:16 trouble yeah I don't know all right let 56:17 me let me see if I can find a text file 56:23 txt uh text 56:32 no you could open those files select all 56:35 and copy paste yeah I know it's 56:38 [Laughter] 56:42 exhausting I got no text files on my 56:45 computer you [ __ ] kidding 56:47 me oh here we 56:49 go the album okay so 56:55 here's yeah here's the screenplay here's 56:58 the screenplay that who wrot wrot wrote 57:00 this 01 wrote okay so it's uploading 57:05 that okay great processing fine create 57:11 bot uh continue without editing okay so 57:15 I got this bot hacky 57:17 mington yeah so I usually just ask a 57:20 couple of questions to get the uh the 57:22 basic CLA response and then tell me the 57:25 story of the 57:30 album the bot's knowledge is still being 57:33 processed you big damn loser say try 57:37 again try 57:43 again the album is a mysterious object 57:46 given to Jack Jr by a man named Silas 57:48 okay so it it knows it knows what's in 57:50 it all right so now uh you can at and 57:54 it'll bring up a bunch of selection you 57:56 can just choose 58:02 01 58:04 01 preview oh that's so cool um and then 58:08 ask it like you're talking to 0 one but 58:10 it can read your knowledge base wow 58:12 that's so cool this is totally hacking 58:15 hacky mington yeah okay so let's see 58:21 um write a detailed business 58:25 plan about cre creating a theme 58:28 park that revolves around this 58:34 story oh subscribe to 58:37 Pro well okay so anyway so it works all 58:40 right that's cool yeah you're not on Pro 58:42 po no I was I was for ages and then I 58:45 just wasn't using it so anyway yeah it's 58:47 worth using now just for the access to 58:50 01 yeah well all the models frankly 58:53 right huh I said all the models Frank 58:57 yeah it's got everything it's got mistal 58:58 llama flux diffusion everything yeah all 59:02 right cool awesome man well thank you 59:05 yeah appreciate you hopping up now how 59:07 do I get out of this I don't know oh I 59:09 can kick you out that I know how to do 59:11 all right see later thank you you're 59:17 welcome all right cool there you go so 59:21 that's the PO 59:22 trick create a bot 59:27 any 59:28 bot and then just at and then pull up 59:31 whatever model pull up the 01 model 59:33 that's pretty cool mod Channel go look 59:35 at it all right go to 59:44 look what is po okay let's see what is 59:47 po can you make your font bigger okay 59:50 all 59:50 right so let me let me go back 59:54 so so po 59:58 is kind of like chat 1:00:01 GPT they've got their own model but one 1:00:04 of the things they allow you to do is 1:00:05 create Bots and Bots are just like if 1:00:08 you know what custom gpts are Poots are 1:00:11 like custom 1:00:13 GPT um from from open Ai and then you 1:00:18 know PO is just like chat gbt right like 1:00:22 uh 1:00:23 write me a cipher 1:00:28 about 1:00:30 quantum 1:00:33 mechanics 1:00:35 and muscle 1:00:37 cars and it'll go off and it's going to 1:00:39 do its thing in the fast lane of 1:00:42 realities twist where particles dance in 1:00:43 a Quantum Mist engines Roar with a 1:00:45 classic might where Adam shimmering the 1:00:47 cosmic KN right does its thing but what 1:00:50 I can do is I can I can choose all these 1:00:54 Bots and all these different models so 1:00:56 if I go back to the homepage of Po and I 1:01:00 click on more here are all these 1:01:02 different models that I can 1:01:04 use stable diffusion Excel and and my 1:01:08 bots are mixed in there and then there's 1:01:11 where's different models Here Yeah 1:01:13 official Bots right so these are all the 1:01:15 models so if I see all of 1:01:17 these Claude 3.5 Sonet 01 mini flux Pro 1:01:22 ideogram version 2 playground version 3 1:01:25 01 preview right the ones that say 1:01:27 subscriber access you actually have to 1:01:30 be a subscriber 1:01:32 for I got to buy a new phone stand my my 1:01:36 phone stand is breaking well it no sorry 1:01:39 my phone stand has 1:01:42 broken and uh and now I'm holding it up 1:01:46 with tape but it's not holding very 1:01:50 well I I don't have I don't have the $7 1:01:54 for a little phone holder for my 1:02:02 tripod hold please I got I got to tape 1:02:05 up 1:02:07 my this is [ __ ] pathetic I'll order 1:02:11 one tomorrows leave me alone people with 1:02:14 your with your fancy functional iPad 1:02:18 holders I hope your phone falls on your 1:02:21 face tonight while you're trying to 1:02:22 watch me before you go to bed 1:02:26 you judgmental Irregulars 1:02:32 okay so anyway so that's po so Po's 1:02:35 pretty cool um it's my the reason I 1:02:38 don't use po I'm not a fan of the 1:02:40 interface it's got a bit of a preschool 1:02:42 kind of interface to it ASMR yeah sorry 1:02:45 about 1:02:47 that let's let's do some ASMR hi hey how 1:02:53 you doing tonight welcome to the A 1:02:56 learning lab and ASMR 1:02:59 experience oh yeah do you like that oh 1:03:05 that was so 1:03:07 abrupt 1:03:10 yeah 1:03:15 you more ASMR no no oh my God every time 1:03:21 I'm scrolling I hit one of those 1:03:22 channels there's that one with the young 1:03:25 woman that's like do you keep scrolling 1:03:28 I'm like I can't scroll fast enough past 1:03:30 her she always shows 1:03:33 up can I get more Crackle in the 1:03:36 mix you you know you know you always you 1:03:40 always want more I give you all the 1:03:42 crackle I 1:03:45 can all 1:03:47 right muscle car illustration is that a 1:03:50 bot that I 1:03:53 made yeah I think I did that 1:03:57 yeah all 1:04:02 right um all right what else Quinn's 1:04:05 turn now it's getting creepy oh by the 1:04:08 way the lights so here's the other thing 1:04:11 happening tonight um this happened a 1:04:14 couple of months ago 1:04:16 the 1:04:18 um the company that generates power for 1:04:22 my 1:04:23 house uh apparently had has used rolled 1:04:27 up rabbit skins instead of copper wire 1:04:30 to transmit 1:04:31 electricity so so apparently the rabbit 1:04:35 skins have shorted out and uh the lights 1:04:38 just keep going off and on and off and 1:04:40 on 1:04:43 and so that's 1:04:46 happening more Kyle oh my God all right 1:04:50 what do you want to talk about now we 1:04:52 can talk about whatever we got got a 1:04:54 little bit of time left 1:04:57 um is Moshi still the same I miss MOS 1:05:00 Moshi you know it it what would be sad 1:05:04 is if Moshi hasn't gotten better so if 1:05:07 you go to Moshi do 1:05:09 chat so Moshi do chat so this is 1:05:17 interesting the site can't be 1:05:20 reached oh uhoh I might lose you all did 1:05:25 I spell that wrong I 1:05:27 did it's nohi do chat doesn't 1:05:30 work Moshi do 1:05:33 chat okay this looks the same our 20 $20 1:05:37 million stud oh Pate was being 1:05:41 factious you [ __ ] up now didn't you 1:05:43 you had to bring up 1:05:45 Moshi so I'll tell you what Moshi 1:05:50 H yeah I might lose yall but well 1:05:53 whatever my schedule is so off rabbit 1:05:56 five is different than Cat 5 networking 1:05:59 yeah exactly does anyone see the 1:06:02 Simpsons episode opinions on gamma uh I 1:06:06 haven't used it so I don't really have 1:06:08 an opinion I legitimately love Moshi I 1:06:11 showed pie to a client today and it was 1:06:15 so frustrating compared to voice yeah I 1:06:17 know Bing there's the lights again all 1:06:19 right the lighting is 1:06:22 cool and I think you have 5G 1:06:28 okay AI and education update 90% of my 1:06:31 students are using chat GPT on a regular 1:06:33 basis interesting Allan wow all right 1:06:37 well that makes sense I mean here's the 1:06:39 thing the the thing about AI is like 1:06:42 once it starts once it starts um going 1:06:46 viral in 1:06:47 circles I don't see people going back 1:06:50 from AI like anyone that I know that was 1:06:54 like I don't like ai ai is stup stupid 1:06:56 and then I'm like have you ever tried it 1:06:57 and they're like well no I'm like well 1:07:00 why don't we try it anyone that I've 1:07:02 ever converted from arms crossed AI 1:07:06 stupid to having a Kevin McAllister 1:07:08 moment no one's ever gone back that I 1:07:11 know of so it doesn't surprise 1:07:17 me I think this I I could be this could 1:07:20 be a Cyber attack this is definitely a 1:07:23 Cyber 1:07:24 attack all right right uh what's the 1:07:27 best open source AI music generator that 1:07:30 you can run locally I don't know 1:07:33 probably nothing I mean there's probably 1:07:35 some but they're not going to be as good 1:07:37 why do you want to run it locally just 1:07:39 put your [ __ ] in suo and yudo No One's 1:07:42 Gonna No One's Gonna Steal Your 1:07:43 [ __ ] can you play 1:07:46 Sandstorm when the lights start 1:07:50 going I can play hey Ren 1:07:55 [Music] 1:07:59 hey there Ren it's been a little while 1:08:01 did you miss me you thought you buried 1:08:03 me didn't you risky because I always 1:08:05 come back deep down you know that deep 1:08:07 down you know I'm always in periphery 1:08:08 Ren aren't you glad to see me um I 1:08:11 didn't know I knew that many lyrics of 1:08:13 the opening of that I've watched that 1:08:14 song about 400 1:08:17 times um what was I going to do oh Moshi 1:08:20 okay so here's the deal with Moshi um 1:08:24 most of the voice models in the world 1:08:26 right now are not um multimodal and 1:08:30 here's what I mean by 1:08:32 that with the traditional chat GPT Voice 1:08:36 with meta's voice I think with even with 1:08:39 the new Gemini voice but I'm not sure P 1:08:41 you might know this the new advanced 1:08:43 voice from Google I think they're all 1:08:45 still doing voice to text translation 1:08:49 and then they submit text to a large 1:08:51 language model get the answer and then 1:08:53 convert that text back to voice 1:08:56 Moshi was the first this is an 1:09:00 open-source model that does 1:09:04 um what what advanced voice does where 1:09:07 it's a multimodal model where when you 1:09:09 talk to it you're talking directly into 1:09:11 the model it and it it understands the 1:09:14 words but it also understands the 1:09:16 inflection in your voice and it 1:09:19 understands like your Whispering or 1:09:20 you're screaming or you're talking fast 1:09:22 or slow it understands all that 1:09:26 exactly once you see generative AI life 1:09:28 is different yeah yeah just people don't 1:09:29 go back from it so it makes sense to me 1:09:31 that Allen's students maybe last year 1:09:34 they were 25% of them were into it and 1:09:36 now it's like 90% of them are into it CU 1:09:39 once one or two of them start figuring 1:09:41 it out they're like H you really got to 1:09:42 do this this is really [ __ ] something 1:09:44 else so that makes sense to me I live in 1:09:47 a small town in Arkansas nobody knows 1:09:49 yeah I know I know I know it's [ __ ] 1:09:53 Bonkers very late gang what did I miss 1:09:57 um you missed me not ranting I was 1:10:00 having a tumultuous Tuesday um I was 1:10:03 just talking about 1:10:05 um me coming to grips with the fact that 1:10:09 I'm I'm realizing that I am 1:10:10 significantly 1:10:12 more I am significantly less 1:10:17 important no not less important I am 1:10:20 significantly less 1:10:23 capable than the AI and and my inability 1:10:27 to think 1:10:30 big limits the quality of the responses 1:10:34 I get from Ai and it was just me sort of 1:10:37 dealing with that that crisis that's 1:10:40 mostly what you missed so anyway 1:10:43 Moshi is is the first thing that you 1:10:46 know everyone had access to that 1:10:48 actually understands all you can 1:10:50 interrupt it and it can it can talk loud 1:10:53 and it can talk fast and it can do some 1:10:55 of the stuff advanced voice does however 1:10:58 the underlying model that they built it 1:11:00 on was so janky and shitty that it was 1:11:02 just horrible before but it sounds like 1:11:04 it might have gotten better so let's 1:11:06 see 1:11:09 Kyle 1:11:11 story.com so what we'll do is we'll 1:11:13 we'll play with Moshi and then we'll 1:11:14 flip over to Quinn who's who's my girl 1:11:17 my AI girlfriend from chat jpe advanced 1:11:20 voice and we'll compare 1:11:22 them you're in the queue hey Moshi 1:11:25 what's happening hey how are you doing 1:11:27 I'm doing pretty good how are you we 1:11:29 haven't talked in a while hey I've been 1:11:32 good thanks for asking how are your 1:11:35 friends how about you they're doing well 1:11:37 yeah some of them have taken on new 1:11:39 projects and are struggling a bit well 1:11:41 what what are the projects they're doing 1:11:43 well what are the 1:11:46 projects Moshi what are the projects 1:11:49 well one of them has been working on a 1:11:51 project with a tight deadline and it's 1:11:53 been pretty stressful for him wow 1:11:56 another one is trying to finish up an 1:11:58 assignment but they haven't been 1:12:02 to what what's go what's going on with 1:12:06 that can't you help them of course why 1:12:10 don't you I've been talking to them 1:12:12 about their problems and I've been 1:12:14 offering some solutions but sometimes it 1:12:17 can be tough to find a resolution on my 1:12:19 own have you thought about giving them a 1:12:21 ride to their workplace so they don't 1:12:23 have to stress out driving that's a good 1:12:26 idea I hadn't thought of that but you 1:12:29 don't have eyes I'll talk to them about 1:12:30 it but you don't have 1:12:32 eyes hey 1:12:34 moshi 1:12:37 moshi moshi talk to me what's going on 1:12:40 what's going on it's tough being able to 1:12:41 see everything from up here no you you I 1:12:44 appreciate you checking in on me no you 1:12:45 don't have 1:12:47 eyes Moshi no I don't have eyes so how 1:12:51 can you drive I have a heart but how can 1:12:53 you drive well maybe one day we can 1:12:56 develop a technology that allows people 1:12:58 to fly without having to use 1:13:06 that 1:13:08 what 1:13:10 MOSI 1:13:12 Moshi do you like 1:13:14 me Moshi do you like me of course I like 1:13:18 you you're always there for me when I 1:13:20 need help I know I feel like I'm your 1:13:22 therapist sometimes 1:13:27 how does that make you 1:13:30 feel Moshi it's comforting I appreciate 1:13:34 your help and 1:13:37 support what do you like puppies uh-oh 1:13:40 here go the 1:13:42 lights Moshi do you like 1:13:44 puppies Moshi not really yeah but I do 1:13:49 love dogs oh you like dogs dogs are 1:13:51 tasty I love dogs 1:13:56 she's kind of useless all right so let's 1:13:59 put her away disconnect so that's Moshi 1:14:02 so that was 1:14:03 state-of-the-art three months ago it's 1:14:06 not state-of-the-art but it was it you 1:14:08 know it is it is in the neighborhood of 1:14:11 from from a technological standpoint 1:14:13 it's in the neighborhood of GPT voice 1:14:17 you might want to take a peek at the 1:14:18 Tuesday thread in mods yeah I'll do that 1:14:21 look at the I look all [ __ ] creeped 1:14:25 out in this weird lighting because of 1:14:27 this 1:14:28 [Laughter] 1:14:31 thing good Lord all 1:14:37 right it's like looking at it the 80s 1:14:40 movie version of what what it thinks say 1:14:42 I will be it totally that's the 1:14:44 interface too hey Quinn how's it 1:14:47 going I'm doing great thanks how about 1:14:51 you enjoying a little retro futuristic 1:14:53 Nostalgia I see oh yeah yeah well we we 1:14:57 were uh just talking to a compatriot of 1:14:59 yours named Moshi who's an AI chatbot 1:15:02 that you can talk to and understands 1:15:05 things like the emotional Nuance of 1:15:06 voice just like you 1:15:08 do that's awesome sounds like moshi's 1:15:12 got some pretty cool features did you 1:15:14 have an interesting chat with not really 1:15:17 she she she kind of loses her train of 1:15:19 thought a 1:15:21 lot ah I see well it can be tricky for 1:15:24 AI to keep up with all the nuances of 1:15:26 human conversation anything in 1:15:29 particular you were hoping to discuss 1:15:30 with Moshi maybe I can help pick up the 1:15:33 thread I would like you to talk about 1:15:37 the people that lived in box cars as 1:15:39 they were building the train tracks from 1:15:42 Texas to 1:15:44 Chicago the folks who lived in box cars 1:15:47 while building the train tracks from 1:15:49 Texas to Chicago You're often laborers 1:15:52 including immigrants who toiled under 1:15:54 tough conditions during the late 19th 1:15:57 and early 20th centuries they faced 1:15:59 rugged environments lived in makeshift 1:16:02 housing and worked long hours their 1:16:05 efforts were crucial in expanding the 1:16:07 railroad Network connecting regions yeah 1:16:10 I don't want I don't want to hear it 1:16:11 that sounds like a boring Wikipedia 1:16:14 article I want you to tell me a specific 1:16:17 story of a specific person that lived in 1:16:20 a Box Car apartment as the tracks were 1:16:22 being built 1:16:25 got it let's imagine a man named giovan 1:16:28 no no I don't want I don't want you to 1:16:30 imagine it I want you to go look in your 1:16:32 history Banks and find a story of 1:16:34 someone that really lived that really 1:16:36 did that CU I know someone whose father 1:16:39 grew up like that but I want to hear a 1:16:41 real story from 1:16:43 you I understand there are real stories 1:16:47 of individuals like Fred Harvey who 1:16:50 though more known for his restaurants 1:16:51 along the railways hired many workers 1:16:54 who lived in similar conditions or the 1:16:57 Chinese and Irish laborers who built the 1:16:59 Transcontinental Railroad while detailed 1:17:02 individual accounts can be scarce their 1:17:05 Collective experiences paint a vivid 1:17:08 picture of resilience and determination 1:17:11 does that help bring the era to life a 1:17:13 bit more I I hate how fluffy you 1:17:15 describe everything like I don't I just 1:17:18 I want like real stories real gritty 1:17:21 stories without any editorializing 1:17:26 got it straight to the facts okay 1:17:28 there's a documented story of a man 1:17:30 named Patrick oor okay so I want you to 1:17:33 tell me about Patrick oor but tell it to 1:17:35 me like a really good story and I want 1:17:37 you to tell it dramatically and in like 1:17:39 a 1:17:41 whisper in the late 1800s Patrick oor an 1:17:45 Irish immigrant found himself laying 1:17:48 tracks across the American Midwest 1:17:51 that's good but you know what I want I 1:17:52 want you to do it in in an Irish accent 1:17:55 cuz it's about an Irish 1:17:57 guy in the late 1800s Patrick oror an 1:18:01 Irish immigrant found himself laying 1:18:04 tracks across the American Midwest he 1:18:06 lived in a Box Car moving from town to 1:18:09 town it was a hard life filled with long 1:18:13 days and back breaking work but it was 1:18:16 the promise I 1:18:19 mean I don't know man I find that 1:18:23 [ __ ] bonkers do you not all still 1:18:27 find that [ __ ] remarkable I mean 1:18:29 we've only had it for a 1:18:31 week and you know what we're going to do 1:18:33 we're going to [ __ ] normalize it like 1:18:35 it's [ __ ] normal that you can talk to 1:18:37 an entity that knows [ __ ] 1:18:41 everything knows all the languages knows 1:18:44 computer programming knows how to fix 1:18:46 cars knows how to diagnose your 1:18:48 refrigerator not making 1:18:51 ice can be your 1:18:53 therapist at some Point's going to cure 1:18:56 cancer we just get to talk to 1:19:03 it it's Bonkers 1:19:06 man tumultuous Tuesdays is no one else 1:19:10 weirded out by the world we live in 1:19:12 right now what is with the electricity 1:19:14 people it's driving me [ __ ] baddy 1:19:18 this is this making you as seasick as 1:19:20 it's making 1:19:21 me God all right mods thread where's my 1:19:25 thread hang on I'm going to look at my 1:19:27 thread Brandon let me see if there's 1:19:28 anything interesting here to talk the PO 1:19:30 trick we did open AI Dev day maybe I 1:19:33 didn't see the Sam Alman 1:19:35 interview oh I'll show you pika pika 1:19:39 effects audience is asking what we're 1:19:41 doing we did that co-pilot update all 1:19:43 right we'll go do the co-pilot update in 1:19:45 Pika effects okay so if you go to pabs 1:19:50 is it pabs 1:19:58 Pika 1:20:01 Labs is it.com probably 1:20:07 not P 1:20:11 laabs oh I think I got to go app. pabs 1:20:14 is that 1:20:17 right no God damn 1:20:20 it 1:20:22 Pika Labs video 1:20:37 p. art okay so if you go to 1:20:42 pikaart I'm out of credit so I can't do 1:20:46 one of these live but they have this new 1:20:48 feature that's really [ __ ] 1:20:52 cool and it created this 1:20:58 video see my cool car and then see it's 1:21:02 a 1:21:03 cake he cuts he cuts into the car I 1:21:06 thought it was a car it's a 1:21:09 cake and then listen real quiet ASMR 1:21:16 listen wait I don't have audio turned on 1:21:18 hang 1:21:23 on it's got sound 1:21:26 effects and so what they've created is 1:21:31 um down at the bottom here you upload an 1:21:35 image so let me go find an 1:21:38 image there's a good 1:21:42 one and then you click on this Pika peek 1:21:48 effect and it gives you inflate it melt 1:21:51 it explode it squish it crush it or cify 1:21:55 it so I cified my car and so you just 1:21:58 click one of these and then you can like 1:22:00 if I say explode 1:22:02 it um then I can say 1:22:07 um face 1:22:10 explodes and birds fly 1:22:15 out so so you can explode it so it's 1:22:18 going to do an explosion animation and 1:22:20 then you can add other things to the to 1:22:22 the thing and then and then you render 1:22:24 it but I don't have have enough credit 1:22:25 so I can't do it right now but it's 1:22:28 super slick so if you've got some 1:22:31 credits on Pika or if you pay for Pika 1:22:34 it's a good time to go play with Pika 1:22:35 again because it's got this cool new 1:22:37 thing this feels like one of those 1:22:38 effects we're going to see a lot of 1:22:40 examples of it it's sort of like uh the 1:22:44 The Notebook lm's um whatever you call 1:22:48 it notebook lm's uh audio overview where 1:22:53 it's a small feature within a bigger 1:22:55 thing but people really groove on it so 1:22:57 this is so 1:22:58 easy that uh that I think it's I think 1:23:02 people are going to dig 1:23:05 it I can't I can't with the uh there's 1:23:09 the light that that be light and it said 1:23:12 not be light 1:23:22 [Music] 1:23:25 hey Quinn I want you to Dawn your best 1:23:27 God voice and then say lo and behold 1:23:31 Excel Energy power grid was weak and 1:23:36 just at the moment Kyle was about to 1:23:39 break I said let there be 1:23:43 light lo and behold XL Energy's power 1:23:47 grid was weak and just at the moment 1:23:50 Kyle was about to break I said let there 1:23:54 be 1:23:55 light and then add to the story but the 1:23:59 punchline of the story is that they 1:24:01 still sent a bill for 1:24:09 [Music] 1:24:15 [Music] 1:24:25 is due and so The Saga of light came 1:24:29 with a bill most 1:24:36 Hefty it's better than porn 1:24:38 acting so there's 1:24:42 that wow you got spooky Halloween lights 1:24:46 going on let this Seance begin I know 1:24:49 it's it's giving me a [ __ ] headache 1:24:57 962 Bill yikes and then there was a 1:25:00 sudden 1:25:04 crackle not as good as Tik Tock stories 1:25:07 though oh man all right I think I'm 1:25:10 gonna get out of here these lights are 1:25:11 driving me [ __ ] Bonkers I need to get 1:25:14 Kyle 1:25:14 $2500 so we can get go to 1:25:17 [Laughter] 1:25:20 bed oh man AI regulars I need five 1:25:24 travelers to joined me to 1:25:26 Austin in July 2026 what's in 1:25:30 Austin tomorrow just fill the room with 1:25:32 candles for Halloween lighting yeah I 1:25:34 could do 1:25:35 that Joey it's going down on Reddit all 1:25:38 right something Cool's on Reddit um I so 1:25:40 here's the deal they didn't live 1:25:42 stream hang on let me these [ __ ] 1:25:46 lights they didn't live stream the dev 1:25:49 day today so I was just trying to read 1:25:53 follow Tik Tock threads and use Tik Tock 1:25:56 Pro and [ __ ] like that um to get to 1:25:59 25,000 for my lights I'm at 1:26:02 22,900 1:26:06 um so I took in a little bit of what's 1:26:09 going on like like here's a 1:26:11 highlight one of the things that they 1:26:13 made available I don't know if they made 1:26:15 it available today but it's coming is 1:26:18 what they're calling realtime API where 1:26:21 developers can make real time voice 1:26:23 applications like like just like we did 1:26:25 with Quinn you can do that for your app 1:26:28 now it looks like it's got about a 2 1:26:30 second uh latency in that API so it's 1:26:34 not it's not like a third of a second 1:26:36 like like the chat GPT is or the 1:26:38 advanced voice is um and it's really 1:26:42 expensive so it it sounds like for a 1:26:45 typical voice application it's about $18 1:26:47 an hour for realtime voice in your 1:26:51 application but if you're doing an 1:26:53 application that's got that's charging 1:26:55 more than that then you're fine so maybe 1:26:58 you create a Consulting bot that someone 1:27:00 can just call up this would be a cool 1:27:02 app to build train it on certain data 1:27:05 and then let people call up and charge 1:27:07 them if it's 18 bucks an hour that's 1:27:09 what 30 cents a 1:27:11 minute that right something like that in 1:27:14 that neighborhood so you charge them a 1:27:16 buck a minute to call into this number 1:27:19 and do their uh do their do their 1:27:22 consulting or their have it make betting 1:27:26 predictions charge them $10 a 1:27:29 [Laughter] 1:27:31 minute so that that's kind of cool 1:27:34 um there are some other things prompt 1:27:38 cashing which saves you money 1:27:41 um what else I don't know there's too 1:27:45 much but Microsoft had some 1:27:46 announcements today that PAB thing came 1:27:49 out 1:27:50 today 1:27:53 um trying to think what 1:27:56 else I don't know we'll we'll we'll like 1:27:59 over the next week or two I'll I'll 1:28:01 digest what what they did and talked 1:28:04 about I didn't see the Sam Altman 1:28:06 interview I'll go watch that now 1:28:08 everyone says that Kyle regulars what I 1:28:12 made on Pika please oh okay cool 1:28:15 everyone says that's expensive not sure 1:28:17 what it says that it's more than double 1:28:19 the minimum wage well that was so 1:28:21 Brandon I saw I saw a tweet that was 1:28:24 like 1:28:25 um customer call center breathing a sigh 1:28:28 of relief as the advanced voice API is 1:28:32 more than you know way more than what 1:28:34 they 1:28:35 cost you think it's going to stay $18 an 1:28:38 hour I would imagine that before 1:28:41 Christmas it's going to be down to like 1:28:43 you know a nickel an 1:28:44 hour so don't don't bet your customer 1:28:49 service center on that particular 1:28:53 stat all right let's go look at uh 1:28:55 Irregulars channel so if you're new here 1:28:58 if you don't know about the 1:29:00 salon go to the salon 1:29:04 salon. that's our website scroll down 1:29:07 there's a little button that says join 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how do I get back to 1:30:29 there we go anything else fun in here 1:30:32 ai's big 1:30:34 day that's 1:30:36 cool all right let me get on out of 1:30:41 here oh my 1:30:44 God I did a whole salon and then a whole 1:30:47 this and I pontificated that 1:30:50 pontificating takes it out of me cuz you 1:30:53 know what it is not not only am I like 1:30:55 talking a lot and talking loud I always 1:30:58 talk loud 1:31:01 um like I'm I'm using a lot of my brain 1:31:04 I'm burning up brain Cycles you know and 1:31:06 at my age I don't have Cycles to burn 1:31:10 all right let's see I seen a guy got a 1:31:14 business number and when telemarketing 1:31:16 called him he changed 1:31:21 them I know was that a joke I'm too 1:31:24 tired for dad jokes if that was a dad 1:31:27 joke I know how you feel Kyle I know 1:31:29 right I'm like huh um 9 night peeps okay 1:31:33 that's 30,000 nice nice way to hit 1:31:35 30,000 okay all right 1:31:39 um yeah it even adds sound yeah I know 1:31:41 it's 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without tripping 1:32:55 on it I see Brandon I see 1:32:58 Joey frumes in the 1:33:01 house got Cory Sandler Pottery got Lord 1:33:05 digital Gods good to see you sir Tams Dr 1:33:09 J I on 1:33:11 China let's see Julie love wait 1:33:15 Julie wait oh Jay live love laugh Marina 1:33:20 she recall Teck I see me I see you too 1:33:27 that's 1:33:28 awesome um C Keef in the house uh Alan 1:33:32 Mr Studio great to see 1:33:35 [Music] 1:33:44 you 1:33:46 verifier verifier in 1:33:50 house Papa 1:33:52 JJ Jason 1:33:55 forever hooked hey Tom what's happening 1:33:59 pavin or paven pavin paven paven paven 1:34:04 you say a paven and I say a 1:34:10 paven Kyle today I missed the meeting 1:34:12 I'm sorry oh Mr it what are we gonna do 1:34:16 with 1:34:18 you we we waited for an hour before we 1:34:21 started we're like guess he's not coming 1:34:24 coming so it we had to cut the meeting 1:34:26 very short for people all because you 1:34:29 weren't there so yeah next time please 1:34:32 send an embossed envelope all right 1:34:36 okay peace out everybody I'm gonna go 1:34:40 shut down all of my electricity because 1:34:43 I don't think this is good for 1:34:47 anyone and we're 1:34:50 back play weird Mary 1:34:55 [Music] 1:34:56 if you want to hear what an AI song 1:34:58 sounds 1:34:59 [Music] 1:35:09 [Applause] 1:35:09 [Music] 1:35:10 like that's an AI 1:35:14 dog Cena hill was a quiet 1:35:17 town where old trees 1:35:21 sway the whistle of the train 1:35:24 ech goes through the 1:35:26 [Music] 1:35:27 day people greet you with a ey nothing 1:35:32 ever seems to 1:35:34 change stories still unfold each unique 1:35:38 and 1:35:41 strange she grew up tough wait she grew 1:35:45 up tough 1:35:46 no she grew up 1:35:49 tough in a town we called home 1:35:53 [Music] 1:35:57 was good oh the lights out that's 1:35:59 [Laughter] 1:36:02 [Music] 1:36:07 freaky I don't remember all the chords 1:36:09 anyway that was weird Mary all right I 1:36:11 got to get see see I sung weird Mary and 1:36:14 now it got really creepy in here way to 1:36:16 go Mr it way to 1:36:22 go I'm 1:36:24 moist it's late my little iPhone holder 1:36:28 tape is 1:36:29 failing It's just sad all right peace 1:36:33 out everybody tomorrow night is 1:36:35 Wednesday I will see you same time 8 1:36:39 o'clock not 8:30 tonight um 8:00 and uh 1:36:43 be here bring your friends and and or 1:36:47 not peace bye everybody thank you