12/11/2025 - Taking One Song and Remixing It Into Many Genres Using Suno AI

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1. 0:07Sun.
2. 0:34Sun came up. It was another day.
3. 0:56Drunk give me angels. You're on the other side. Drunk angels.
4. 1:13Woohoo!
5. 1:34Girl, you're looking fine tonight. Every fellas got you in his sight.
6. 1:48What you doing with clown like me? Surely one of life's little mystery.
7. 2:03So tonight stars above. How did I ever hear your
8. 2:18What did I do? What did I say to turn your angel eyes my way?
9. 2:34I'm the guy that never learned to dance. Never even got second glass.
10. 2:50What you doing with a clown like me? Surely one of life's little mystery. So tonight I ask
11. 3:06the stars above, how did I love? >> What did I do?
12. 3:24What did I say to turn your angel ass my way?
13. 4:11How's everybody doing? How is everybody flipping doing?
14. 4:30I wonder what Sununo would do with a shitty broken chord progression. That's something worth exploring,
15. 4:38wouldn't you say? No one's here yet. We can just [ __ ] around. Um, let me do this. Let me do that so you can see my screen. Be like, "Kyle,
16. 4:47we can't see the screen. Could you please could you please adjust your your layout so those of us on the Tik Tok can see the fl
17. 5:14All right, that's good. That's horrible. All right, let's get let's get pseudo on the
18. 5:29case here. Site can't be reached. Uh oh. Warner Brothers has had their way with them. All right, now it's good. All right,
19. 5:40we're going to do simple. Let's see. Song description. Well, wait. We need Oh, we need custom. We need audio plus audio. We're going to
20. 5:49record. All right. Here we go. This is going to be so good. 8 minute limit. We're not going to need that much time.
21. 6:07Storybine Automagic microphone is not available. I don't want you to use it. What is going on with my audio sound settings?
22. 6:22Good lord. Virtual microphone. Oh, that's output. Let's see. Input USB. We're there. Hello. Testing. Testing.
23. 6:38Play sound effects through. Testing, testing. No. Start over. Testing. Testing. It's not recording.
24. 6:53What is going on? All right, let's switch the microphone to uh I am I am I am
25. 7:09I am flumxed people. Sound settings. Let's go to built-in microphone. MacBook Pro. Hello. Test. Test. Test.
26. 7:25Testing. Testing. Testing. Testing. Testing. Fine. This is why we can't have nice things, isn't it?
27. 7:42Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now? Nope. Yeah.
28. 7:56If anybody knows anyone at Apple
29. 8:11Uh, we would have done something fun right there, but we can't we can't have nice things because Apple decided that
30. 8:17they're going to make it easier for us. And whenever we go to record something, we're going to throw it over to the
31. 8:23telephone that's nearby, but not have it work. That's that's uh that's some solid management right there. That's solid. Mayono PDX300.
32. 8:40Wait. Oh no. No. MacBook Pro speakers. Sound settings. Input. Mayono. Test test test. All right. You can all hear me. You can
33. 8:56hear me good. Hello from Arkansas. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. I also have it. Um, not much difference in writing.
34. 9:11Yeah. I don't know if if anyone do you It feels different, right? Like the world's not the same, right? You feel it. You can feel it, right?
35. 9:23No, not the solar flares. Not the solar flares. Chat GPT 5.2 came out. Like it feels different, right? Can you can feel the AGI, right?
36. 10:15Oh, I bet I know what I need to do. I bet I need to reload the page. Audio record. Testing. Testing. Can anybody hear this?
37. 10:30No. All right. I don't know. I don't know. Anti-gravity infusion.
38. 10:54Oh, wait. Let's Let's not do that look and feel. We're not showing anything. Oh, we were showing something. Um,
39. 11:06hey, producer Brandon, hop up on stage here for a second. So, if someone wanted to come up, if we wanted to do the thing that you talked
40. 11:18about, I would just have them reach out to you. >> Yep. >> Okay. So, here's what we're going to do. Producer Brandon came up with a fun
41. 11:28idea. If anyone on the call wants to, if you've got a project you're working on or you've got, you're stuck with
42. 11:37something or you just want to do some coaching, um, how do they reach out to you? Just DM me in the AI salon.
43. 11:45>> DM Brandon on the AI salon. So if if you're on the AI salon, so you you have to know what the AI salon is to be able
44. 11:51to do this. I think that's a good that's a good details. >> That's it's a minor detail, but I think that's a good reason to join the AI
45. 11:57salon. If if you're in the AI salon, DM Brandon >> and what I'll do is I'll bring you up and we'll just we'll have a conversation
46. 12:06and then if there's questions to answer, cool. if we need to go play with something and look at things and talk
47. 12:11about it, we can do that, too. So, if any of you have some sort of um project you're working on or something cool,
48. 12:20DM Brandon and then I'll bring you up. We'll do we'll do this we'll do this interactive style, right? >> Why not?
49. 12:28>> All right. And while you're in there, you can register for festivist at afestivist.com and submit your entry for the AI
50. 12:38Salons's Got Talent in the challenges and competition section because the deadline to submit is rapidly approaching on Sunday.
51. 12:44>> Yeah, Sunday. Sunday. AI's got AI Salon's Got Talent. Salon's Got Talent. Uh go to challenges and competitions.
52. 12:53Get your stuff in there. Make some stuff. Make some stuff. Just go do it. There's no restriction other than you
53. 12:58have to have made it with AI. All right. Beautiful. All right. So, we'll do that. I guess we'll go look
54. 13:07at chat GPT 5.2. Um, the benchmarks look good. I I don't give too many shits about it. I used to get all excited this time of
55. 13:20year for OpenAI launches like last year. But but >> although Kyle, I will say I am disappointed in Mr. Sam Alman.
56. 13:34>> What did you do? >> Last year we had 12 days of shipments. >> Yeah. >> And today with the launch of 5.2 he says
57. 13:4210 years. It's a full time coming. I'm so excited. And don't worry, we have a few more Christmas gifts for you next
58. 13:51week. Said, Sam, buddy, it's Hanukkah next week. We need eight nights of lunch. >> I mean, it was right there.
59. 14:03>> All you had to do It was right there. Yeah, it's Yeah, that's that's that's a wasted opportunity. But but maybe they don't.
60. 14:13>> It's hard to believe that Sam has been working for 10 years at OpenAI and this is where we're at today. I I will say I am happy that they
61. 14:25finally started doing it sequentially. 5.1 5.2. We're not doing like O's and zeros and dashes. So that's they've learned something in
62. 14:35the past 10 years. All right, Groovy. All right. So anyway, if anyone wants to come up on stage, DM Brandon
63. 14:44uh in the in the salon and we'll bring you up and we'll just hang out and talk and do stuff like that. If not, then
64. 14:50I'll just do my normal thing. All right.
65. 15:23Hello. Hello.
66. 15:50Yes. Wow.
67. 16:18Greg Stokes, let's jam sometime. I would be happy to. I just I'm rather limited in my uh jam ability, but
68. 16:32Oh, you and I here all alone. Sunday morning here at home.
69. 16:47Sky's blue and the coffee strong. That's true. Then I open my eyes to a dream realized in front of me.
70. 17:04And I haven't got a clue what in the world is happening to me. Think I think I'm happy like first day of summer vacation. Happy
71. 17:19got to get a little rest, relaxation. Happy like choir on Sunday morning singing true.
72. 17:58Oh. Oh, lordy lordy lordy. What are we going to do tonight, people? Good people of the day. Good people of the of the
73. 18:07Tik Tok and of the YouTube. Um, here's the biggest story of the day in my opinion. We seem to be at the same level of
74. 18:20guitarist. Lots of covers. Yeah. It's like I'm I'm at the I've I've learned a couple of decently hard songs to play
75. 18:28and sing and then haven't really progressed much past that.
76. 18:45Is this Is this place I can rest my forehead? Gather my thoughts in sweet silence.
77. 19:00And this is a place where the feelings aren't dead. Running over exposure to violence. Is this place I can slowly face. The
78. 19:14only one I truly can know. These are tears from a long time ago. Got these tears from a long time ago.
79. 19:31So, here's a here's a thing. So, about 10 minutes ago, I said, "Hey, if anyone wants to come up on stage and
80. 19:38just chitchat or show a project or ask about a project or something like that, just DM Brandon." No one's No one's DM'd him yet.
81. 19:48I think we have some shy little bunnies out there. T, are you being a shy little bunny? Don't be a shy little bunny. You
82. 19:56know, I I I do this every night. And do you think it's like it's just like natural? It's not. So, you know,
83. 20:07um, one of the things that I'm learning in the mastermind, so within the AI salon, we've created this thing called
84. 20:13the AI salon mastermind practice. And every Thursday, which today was, we we have the AI salon practice lab
85. 20:22where we talk about our practi. That's the plural of practice is practi. Correct. Practice. And so we were talking about our practi
86. 20:34today and one of the things that is coming up for a lot of people myself included is all sorts of weird pockets where fear
87. 20:48shows up and I shared one last night. I mean I shared one today about last night. So, you know, last night, if you
88. 20:56were here last night, I made some cool ads in the GenSpark designer, AI designer, and they were really good.
89. 21:04What I didn't talk about in real time was I didn't plan on going to GenSpark. I didn't plan on going there at all. And
90. 21:12then just Brandon at one point, I ran out of [ __ ] to say. And Brandon's like, "Uh, uh, maybe you could go to Gen Spark and look at that."
91. 21:22And I was like, well, I don't have anything better to do. And I went there and I had anxiety. What was that about? Like, one of the
92. 21:31things that that doing a daily practice around AI is doing for me, and it seems to be doing it for everyone in the in
93. 21:37the program is is putting me in touch with like what's going on, like what's it feel like? And so the reason I had
94. 21:48anxiety is because I hadn't been to GenSpark in I don't know two months, three months, some amount of time. And I
95. 21:56didn't want to look stupid is what it came down to. So if you've got anxiety about not coming up here because you're
96. 22:02like, I don't have anything to say. Kyle's so he plays the guitar. We're we're all, you know, human beings,
97. 22:11we're all just mortified that someone's going to judge us. So, don't be mortified. DM Brandon, come on up. Let's have a conversation. We can
98. 22:22just talk about [ __ ] too. We don't have to do AI stuff.
99. 22:45Brandon said we can keep you camera off if that helps. I do not. No, I do not accept that. If you're going to come up
100. 22:51on stage, you're coming up camera blaring with your hair. Look at Do you see the hair that I sport on this show
101. 22:59on a regular basis? All right, Silver Fox. I'm shy. I'm a shy little bunny who's lying in bed. No one wants to see this
102. 23:08right now. That's really good. Yeah. So, A, you're a shy little bunny. B, you might already be in bed. And you you
103. 23:16could be both. Silverf Fox is a She's a double threat. Shy little bunny and in bed. Not presentable. That's good. I like it.
104. 23:28Oh, man. I just thought it would be cool. And listen, I I just I know I just sprung this on you tonight. It's like,
105. 23:34well, there's no time to prepare. I I you know I need to prepare a topic to discuss with Kyle. If I were brought up
106. 23:41on stage, I would have to have some talking points. No, you don't. Um,
107. 24:02I met my baby at the F club underneath the time cafe on the corner of life and four street late one Wednesday. Is that right? No.
108. 24:16Uh, she offered me uh something. I said, "Baby, not a chance. I could go for a tall ginger ale. How about we just
109. 24:26dance?" We did the boom shaboom, the dody mocha, and the nitty-gritty. We did the hoochie coo, the lazy ballerina.
110. 24:34Baby made me feel like I'm a California dreamer. Yeah. Oh yeah.
111. 24:48Is there any way to use MidJourney for free? Andrea, yes. We covered this last night. We covered it two weeks ago. Um,
112. 25:00yes. Follow me. Follow me. Do you remember the game Oddworld? Follow me. Um, Oddworld was a cool game in the 90s, man. It was so cool.
113. 25:14We're gonna go to MetaMa.ai. And you're like, "Wait a wait a minute there, Mr. Shannon. Isn't that Mark
114. 25:22Zuckerberg's company, the Meta company? I don't support his practices." Well, I don't either, but he gives you free
115. 25:29midjourney. So, you come here and then on the left hand side, you go to create. You can also just prompt it and tell it
116. 25:36to make an image. But if you go to create, it flips you into a creative interface. And it's good. This is a really good
117. 25:48interface. And it's it's really um it's a good interface. It It is That's the one bad thing is you can't scroll up and down.
118. 26:05Jogo down down.
119. 26:26Um, this is all it's all midjourney. And if you're like, "But Kyle, how do we know it's midjourney?" Are you sure it's
120. 26:32midjourney? Yes. Watch Tik Tok question. My god, the mediocrity continues. The mediocrity of what? My guitar playing.
121. 26:53I just play for the dog.
122. 27:07down. Um, so let me show you a cool thing you can do here on um on meta. So if you come here, you close that down and
123. 27:22you can, if we flip over to MidJourney itself, if you go to the Midjourney site, this is um these are all style
124. 27:31references. So we can take some really specific style reference here. Let's say this one's good. Um this black
125. 27:41and white one, that's pretty good. So, we'll grab that number and then we can head over to meta
126. 27:57and then we can click on the aesthetics tab and there's a little code box here. You can put the code in and then you can
127. 28:06just say something like um what did you say? The mediocrity continues. Let's do that as a prompt. The mediocrity continues.
128. 28:20Let's make something horrible. Well, let's make something nearly horrible for for our fine guests. Oh, and I
129. 28:30didn't put in I didn't put in the uh um where's the Did that generate something? photorealistic cinematic.
130. 28:42Why did that not go? Um, the mediocrity continues. Oh, yeah. The aesthetics are here. Okay. Yeah, that was it. It was there.
131. 28:59Why is that not working? It was working last night. I have a feeling my browser has done [ __ ] to bed. The mediocrity continues.
132. 29:25Nope, that's not working. I think my browser has done crapped out.
133. 29:55But I'm able to do some stuff from my phone. Found out last night. Really need to go to the PC.
134. 30:26There's a little teapot, short and stout. There is my handle. There is my spout. Carrying on.
135. 30:51Some people just need to be miserable. Can you show me how to make something with the mood board I built?
136. 31:00Start with how I find my code. Yes, we could do that. Cindy [ __ ] let's go do that. Let's go over to
137. 31:07Midjourney. I think MidJourney is going to work, but um my my browser seems to be in a bad state. Oh, wait. Oh, I'm not sharing. Um okay. So
138. 31:22in Midjourney, they used to be under the personalization tab, mood boards, but they now have their own tab. So you can
139. 31:30go to personalize. So, personalization is just like if if you've uh if you've used personalization, the way you set it up is it gives you
140. 31:44two images and and you you either select the one on the left, the one on the right. Um or you hit number I'm I'm on
141. 31:51the numeric keypad. So, one is left, two is right, and three is skip. So, I'll go two here. I'll go two here. I'll go two here.
142. 32:04Two here. I probably shouldn't have done that. Two. I don't know why I like all the twos. I'm going to skip that. I
143. 32:10don't like either. I like one there. Like one there. I like two there. So, you just do that. So, as you're as
144. 32:17you're grading these things, it's building a personality for you. So, you can turn personalization on and off. So,
145. 32:23that's a thing to do. Go to personalization. You can turn it on or off. And then that's that. Now, mood
146. 32:28boards are similar except what you do with a mood board is you upload a specific pile of images, right?
147. 32:39And let's see if I go back to the main mood board thing. Let's see if I select this. Let me get rid of this.
148. 33:00Af from Gallow uh using prompt. There we go. Okay. Okay. So, here's how you do it. Um Cindy, you go into is that copy?
149. 33:13Rename view creations create. What's that? That's copy. Okay. Okay. Yeah, their their their interface here is a
150. 33:20little shitty. Okay. So, so if we want to do something like this is a really specific one that we did for the AI
151. 33:28readiness project, right? So, this is I think these are images that Vicky Baptist put together. And so, if we want
152. 33:34to do things that look like those images out on this level, I can click on the little copy, the little copy icon right
153. 33:43at the bottom here, and that will copy it into my prompt. Let's see. right up here. It's underneath the live the live label there. But
154. 33:55parking lot. Uh do you guys know how guys make the covers for old music without copyright on Sunno? Um I don't know what you mean without
155. 34:09copyright. You can just upload a song and it'll make a song. Okay. Okay. So anyway, so now I've got that d-p
156. 34:19I've got that code in there. So that's your mood boat mood board code. And what's [ __ ] up about midjourney is I'm
157. 34:26going to put in here, what was it? Um, the mediocrity continues. The mediocrity continues. I don't know why that's
158. 34:39cracking me up tonight. Probably because it's true. Mediocrity continues. Um, all right. So, I'm going to generate that. And now, if
159. 34:52I come out here to create, the mood board is over here to the side, but they change it. So, so when you when
160. 35:06you first put a mood board in from the mood board page, it's got a big long code and then when it actually makes the
161. 35:13image, it changes that big long code into a name. And in this case, it's AI readiness. So, if I want to reuse the AI readiness
162. 35:21mood board code, I click on it and now it gives me a short a short code. So, there's three different names for mood
163. 35:30boards. But anyway, here's the, you know, here's images generated from the mediocrity continues. I think that one's pretty good. Her eyes
164. 35:39are a little weird and offc center. That's kind of a solid mediocre image, right? Cindy [ __ ] does that answer your question?
165. 35:54Oh, yes. Except we're not using this mood board anymore for the AI readiness project. Yeah, but we we still on the on
166. 36:01the podcast we still have these graphics in there cuz I just haven't changed them out. Covers cover old songs without violating copyright
167. 36:11on the OG song. Well, I think if you cover a song, if you cover a song and you perform it, technically you owe
168. 36:23money, right? Like technically like all that Martin Ston and John Hyatt [ __ ] that I sing I should be paying for. I
169. 36:33assume I think like it's a performance royalty, right? I forget how that works, but you know, I don't have a big enough audience that
170. 36:43they would give a [ __ ] I think it's kind of the same thing with Sunno. You just upload a song to it and tell it to make a cover. Um,
171. 36:57I know I can I can show you. Um, we'll go here. So, I did a whole album.
172. 37:16Um, what did I do? What did I do? Weird Mary. Um,
173. 37:30oh, no. You know what? What one I'll show you is um uh uh uh uh trouble trouble trouble trouble trouble trouble trouble.
174. 38:04Okay. So, let me share this. So, this you'll you'll hear this is a song. This is a song that I wrote and this is a
175. 38:10really crappy recording of it where I was just trying to get the song. This is this is like like a voice me standing between
176. 38:25you and a hard place is insane. Standing too near you in a fire makes it clear. All right. So, decently horrible, but
177. 38:41you know, decent song. Um, so now I'm just going to go remix and edit. And then I'll go cover. And so it's got my
178. 38:51recording in there now. And then there's my little lyrics. And then here's the style. So let's see. It's got band
179. 38:59medieval metal. Let's do it as a medieval metal song. Let's continue the the uh parade of mediocrity. Um and comedy rap. Medieval metal and
180. 39:13comedy rap. Let's see what we get. And that's it. That's that's basically what you do. So, you upload a song, you
181. 39:23pick a genre, and then uh and then you're off to the races. Um in terms of if you're if you're violating someone
182. 39:30else's copyright, that's on you. just because you can do it. Um, now if you make like a country version of a
183. 39:39hit song, is is someone going to come after you? They may or may not. You might get cease and desisted. Um,
184. 39:47but I don't know that there's a way to do it and not violate their copyright because it's their song.
185. 40:07Standing between you and a hard place is insane. standing too near you and a fire makes it clear
186. 40:25your trouble to me. All right, that's not good. Let me do advanced advanced options because we want to make
187. 40:36it not sound so much like the original. So, we're going to go style influence is 86%. Weirdness 70%. Audio influence, we're going to lower
188. 40:48that to 15%. And then let's do let's do some other style. Let's see. That medieval metal was crap. Club vibes. Classic rock. Offbeat and
189. 41:03mystic and grime. That's good. create. I'm now an hour closer. Yay. No more East Coast time. Oh, that's great. Yeah,
190. 41:17I I don't really I I didn't really take the East Coast into effect when I decided to do do these shows. I didn't
191. 41:25think anyone was going to come hang out on these shows quite quite honestly. So,
192. 41:57I'm running with you. You and I are places insane. Standing to near you and a fire makes it clear
193. 42:20to me. Real trouble. Can't you see? Leaning smelling
194. 42:35your perfume scares me. Leaning away. It feels stronger every day.
195. 42:52Real trouble for you. Real trouble. Can't you see?
196. 43:08>> That's crazy.
197. 43:30What's that drummer's name? There's a kid drummer there. There's There's a kid. There's like this 16-year-old
198. 43:36drummer and this 17-year-old keyboarder. She's she's a woman. He's He's a boy. They're young young people. And she
199. 43:46plays these crazy jazz chords. And he plays drums that sound just like this. Anybody know his name? Standing between
200. 44:03you and the heart and seeing the air and the fire makes it clear.
201. 44:18You're trouble to me. >> Real trouble. Can't you seem
202. 44:34scare me crazy? It's going to drive me crazy until I can figure out his name. Hang on. Chat GPT can tell us. This is how
203. 44:42this is how we're going to use the new crazy new model from OpenAI is we're going to use it in place of Google.
204. 44:53Um let's see. Okay, we'll go to um chat jeep tab. Yes, thank you. Our latest model improvements in writing, coding and
205. 45:07reasoning. Um, who is are the um young teens jazz,
206. 45:22piano, and drum duo that make music on YouTube. Um, he's got
207. 45:40long hair over his eyes and drums in syncopated
208. 45:54strange rhythms. Do me and J D Beck. That's them. You all
209. 46:09heard these two. You'll see. Um, Doy and JD Beck.
210. 46:32Let's see.
211. 46:57Um, well bet. Yes. Um, recording would be faster than typing except my microphone setup is all screwed up. I I
212. 47:05think my my Chrome browser has crashed even though it's still running, but my audio uh routing is all [ __ ] up. So, I
213. 47:12can't I can't do text to speech unless I restart everything. And I'm lazy. See, he's drumming like that.
214. 47:26Listen to this. It feels stronger.
215. 47:42You're trouble to me. Real trouble. >> That's cool. All right, I'm going to keep offbeat and I'm going to go acoustic music. So,
216. 47:55this is offbeat and acoustic music. This is probably going to sound kind of like the original is my guess with some weird syncupation.
217. 48:11Oh, no need to apologize. You're absolutely correct. I should do voice to text. But but there's something there's
218. 48:19something about saying the letters really slowly while you're typing them, including the typos. Oh, I screwed that
219. 48:24up. That's I think people really enjoy watching someone type slowly, inaccurately. At least that's what I'm that's what I'm going for.
220. 48:40>> Oh, like this. Standing between you and a hard place is insane.
221. 48:56Standing too near you and the fire makes it clear. You're trouble to me.
222. 49:11Real trouble. Can't you see? Leaning in close, smelling your perfume scares me most.
223. 49:25leaning away. Hey, it feels stronger every day. Your trouble can't
224. 49:39real. >> All right. I I'm digging this offbeat thing. I'm gonna do offbeat 12 string guitar, four-part vocal harmonies. So,
225. 49:52we're gonna do we're gonna do Crosby Steels's Nash and Young combined with Doy and JD Beck.
226. 50:12>> All right, let's do Here's the new one. Silverf Fox, few years ago typos drove me crazy, but but then AI cured you.
227. 50:19Yeah, exactly. You really just don't need to worry about typos anymore. Can you add fedo singer? Sure. F a singer. We'll do that one too.
228. 50:41>> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Standing between you and a hard place is insane.
229. 50:56Oh, standing to near you and a fire makes it clear. Your trouble to me.
230. 51:11Real trouble. Can't you see? Oh yeah. Leaning and glow. Yeah.
231. 51:33>> That's cool.
232. 51:52When I hear [ __ ] like this, what what rattles around my brain is people that are like, "Hey, I can't be creative.
233. 52:00It's just the next token prediction. Huh. D
234. 52:22standing between you and the hard place is insane. >> This is cool. Yeah, this is Luna. Lunazo.
235. 52:37Wait, Luna Zamaro Creative. Cool name. Luna Zamaro. Like it. Beautiful. >> Standing near the fire makes it clear.
236. 52:54Your trouble to me. Real trouble. Can't you see? Leaning in close, smelling your perfume scared me most
237. 53:14away. I feel stronger every day. Your trouble to me. >> Real trouble. Can't you see?
238. 53:34sitting by you. I feel it. Can you feel it, too? >> You know, you know what would be [ __ ] cool? I I don't have the attention span
239. 53:45for it, but like take a song like this and just every day release release a different cover of it for a year.
240. 53:56have 365 versions cuz there's like four or five versions of this just tonight that I'm like those are pretty bitching.
241. 54:04Um, okay. Here's the one with the what is it called? Ludo Lo. Wait, Fedo. Fedo singer. Fedo. Fat. Uh, Mary. Mary, is there a way to
242. 54:16download this song the way you did it, Kyle? You mean is there a way to download my I want to send it to a friend. You mean
243. 54:28the original the original crappy recording? I think I have this set up. Yeah. If you go into any one of Do I have any of these published?
244. 54:48Um filters public.
245. 55:03I don't have any of these public, but what I can do is I can publish a couple of them. I'll publish a couple of them right now. Um,
246. 55:17all right. Let's listen to the Fedo singer version.
247. 55:36Hey,
248. 55:57that's weird. Hey,
249. 56:16standing between you and a hard place is insane. Standing too near. You in the fire makes it clear.
250. 56:32Your trouble to me. Real trouble. Can you see? Leaning in close. Smelling your perfume scares me most.
251. 56:51leaning away. >> It feels stronger, isn't it? You're trouble to me. Real trouble. Can't you see
252. 57:10by you? >> All right, this one's cool. I'll publish this one. Let's see. Publish. Publish. And then more options. So, show remix.
253. 57:28Yes. Show the original song that this was remixed from. I think that's right. Publish.
254. 57:46D. So if I click this
255. 58:04Yeah, that's the original. Okay, so the original's in there with all of these that I that I'll I'll publish a few of
256. 58:10these right now. Um, which one did I like? Yeah. Yeah.
257. 58:30>> So if you search for trouble 2, it's 101725. 10 colon 17 col2 25. um I guess is when I when I uploaded this original
258. 58:57Standing between you and the hard places is insane. Standing too near you when the fire makes it clear.
259. 59:14Your trouble to me. Real trouble. Can't you see? Leaning in close, smelling your perfume scared me most.
260. 59:41>> All right, that one's worth sharing. So, publish. Turn on the remix options. So, the original's there. D.
261. 1:00:06>> Hey, brother 52. We have not played with Chad GBT 5.2 yet. >> I don't like that one.
262. 1:00:31Standing between you and a hard place is insane. Standing too near you and the fire makes it clear
263. 1:00:48your trouble to me. Real trouble. Can't you see? Leaning in close, smelling your perfume scares me most.
264. 1:01:08Leaning away. It feels strong every day. Your trouble can't me.
265. 1:01:23the Mystic Grimes one. Yeah. Okay, I'll do those. So, here's the Mystic Grimes one. Well, that was one of them.
266. 1:01:49Yeah, these are kill.
267. 1:02:05>> That was not quite right.
268. 1:02:31standing between you and the hard places in me. standing till Yeah. Doing the fire makes it clear
269. 1:02:51to me. Real trouble. Can't you see? Leaning in close broken smelling your perfume scare me.
270. 1:03:14>> This that would be a good song for a Kelly Bosch video, wouldn't it? All right, so let me publish this one. This
271. 1:03:18one's pretty cool. Show the remix. The original publishing published. All right, let's see. That was comedy rap. These were not
272. 1:03:34good. Nah, let's do Offbeat Mystic Grime. I want to do a couple of more of these. Um, Offbeat Mystic Grime.
273. 1:04:03weirdness. Uh, let's do weirdness down a little bit. Style influence high. Let's do audio influence to 40%. So,
274. 1:04:14this should sound more like the original, but still keep some of that quirky weirdness without it getting too
275. 1:04:19weird. But, who knows? I did several versions of a song. one carnival circus vibe, the other one R&B female soul. Cool.
276. 1:04:31I mean, you know, it's funny if you think about the the rap that AI music is getting from the music community that hates it is like, "Oh,
277. 1:04:46this is just lazy." But like I'm a songwriter and if I can take if I can take the seed of an idea and I can
278. 1:04:54explore it in 16 different versions in 15 minutes and then let that inspire me to write new songs because of that or I I don't
279. 1:05:06know put them out in different ways like I I don't I don't get other than the fact that people aren't using it. People
280. 1:05:14that say that AI isn't creative and can't be part of a creative chain of craft. I don't get it at all. Do you care if we play with the song?
281. 1:05:26No. I made it so you can remix it. Mix away. Just here here's here's the agreement, Gareth. If you do a remix of my song and
282. 1:05:36you make money off it, give me a cut. That is definitely
283. 1:06:00standing between you and a hard place. >> Nice. Standing too near. You in a fight. Makes it clear.
284. 1:06:19You're trouble to me. No trouble. Can you see? Leaning in close.
285. 1:06:34>> Smelling your perfume scares me most. That was cool.
286. 1:07:07No, no, no. All right, we'll publish this one because it's cool. Show remix origin. Did I say that they could remix it? Allow remix. Yeah,
287. 1:07:16that's turned on. Mix away, kids. Um, did I publish that this
288. 1:07:38down your trouble to real trouble. Didn't I make I'm pretty sure in in my other workspace that I
289. 1:07:55made a trouble album. Didn't I make a whole album of trouble covers? I'm pretty sure I did. No. Uh oh. Trouble. Trouble. No.
290. 1:08:11Huh? Hang on. I am I am confused. I'm pretty sure I did a whole Oh, that's the big news. By the way, there is a giant news
291. 1:08:28story today that we haven't talked about. And it's not OpenAI's 5.2. Um, let's see. Trouble
292. 1:08:42covers
293. 1:09:01What did I do covers of? Do anybody remember what song I I did a whole album of one night in here? I thought it was
294. 1:09:07that song, but I don't remember. You know, having having ADHD is exhausting. Oh, it was the taxi song. Wait, no. Was it to kill you for a
295. 1:09:20dollar? Did I do a whole I did a whole album of that. That and Weird Mary. Maybe it was Weird Mary. I don't know. Um, let's see. Media
296. 1:09:55Those are my favorite pictures. I took that picture in Boulder, I don't know, 10 years ago. Those two little birds behind it here,
297. 1:10:08you can't even see it, are magpies. And magpies are big birds. That's a big golden eagle. A juvenile golden eagle sitting on that
298. 1:10:17burnout tree. All
299. 1:10:46right. I don't know what's going on there. Um, all right. Let's see. Let's go look at the news. The important news of the day. Disney.
300. 1:10:59Disney invested a billion dollars into open AI. Disney is essentially turning fan creativity into massive free R&D
301. 1:11:16department. Every prompt with Disney IP and Sora becomes a signal about what people actually want to see these characters do.
302. 1:11:27Um, let's see. Where's the uh Why did he not link to the [ __ ] story? Come on, Nick St. Pierre. That's [ __ ]
303. 1:11:45Did this person link to the story? No. Oh my god. What is with Tik Tok? Are people just dicks? Is there I can't I
304. 1:11:56can't have anyone get off my post because then I wouldn't get all the engagement. I wouldn't get the clicks. Jesus Lord,
305. 1:12:06people are exhausting. Bitter. You betcha.
306. 1:12:22Disney me
307. 1:12:45that had a link and the link disappeared. What the [ __ ] is going on? Maybe this is me. Yeah, my hyperlinks are disappearing. I
308. 1:12:55think my browser's done hosed. Yeah. Anyway, they invested a billion dollars. So, you're going to be able to take all
309. 1:13:07those Marvel movies and Disney characters and generate Sora videos with Disney characters in them. This is something that I've I I
310. 1:13:18called this two years ago. I called this two years ago. If you've been here for two years, first of all, you're [ __ ]
311. 1:13:25weird. We're not weird. We're irregular. You're weird. Second of all, um I I said you you are not going to possibly be
312. 1:13:37able to chase everyone down that's using AI to copy your IP. So, so the current copyright model is is you produce stuff and then once it's
313. 1:13:49produced, you police it, right? And you you get paid on the output side. You get paid on distribution. Well, in a world
314. 1:13:56where everyone can copy everything instantly, chasing down a billion people who are copying your IP just isn't practical. But what if
315. 1:14:08you could get paid on the on the generation side? This is what Disney's doing. I think this is a huge, huge deal. This is
316. 1:14:17recognition to me that copyright is, you know, will companies like Disney still fight like hell for every
317. 1:14:26penny that they can? Yes. But this is a really big indication that the game is changing. Isn't using Disney characters copyright
318. 1:14:36protected? Well, yes. Yes, it absolutely is. But them cutting a deal, they're basically saying, "We give you
319. 1:14:44permission to generate, you know, things with our likeness." I assume part of the user uh the terms of service are going
320. 1:14:53to be you can use this so long as you don't make money on it. If you make money on it, then we have to cut some
321. 1:14:59sort of deal is is what I'm assuming. But I don't know. I haven't I haven't uh read the whole article yet. Uh
322. 1:15:10Korea Upscale just made in great detail one of my characters naked. Kyle said copyright was dead years ago.
323. 1:15:21I have a whole business idea based around postcopyright a postcopyright world. Um, your hair looks different. Yeah, it
324. 1:15:30does. It's I don't know. I don't have enough product in it or I have too much. Best not to use any of it.
325. 1:15:38Why is it best not to use any of it? Listen, here here's the here's the deal. You can be bitter about the fact that
326. 1:15:49these models were trained unethically. They were. But there's a couple of things happening. We're not putting we're not putting the
327. 1:16:06the horse back in the barn. The horse is out of the barn, right? The technolog is out and the technology has been out long
328. 1:16:12enough now that there are derivative models now based on synthesized data. So they're they're technically not trained
329. 1:16:21on any of the copywritten work anymore. It's all it's all synthesized data that was generated from that. But but they do
330. 1:16:28they call it copyright washing. Um, they can generate whole models now that that are not trained on on any of that stuff.
331. 1:16:36I don't want the copyright hassle. Oh, yeah. That that I understand. Why not to use it? I'll use Suno, but I won't use
332. 1:16:42anything that looks like Disney. Well, but what's cool about what they're doing, what what Disney's doing is they're saying, "Use RIP. We're
333. 1:16:50licensing it to you." Now, you you're going to have to we're going to all have to understand what it looks like to
334. 1:16:54actually do that. Um, but I think it's a really smart move on their part. Now, who do they actually sue if they're
335. 1:17:02going to go after someone? You know, I assume it's someone who makes, you know, a Mickey Mouse porno
336. 1:17:10and sells it, right? Because I think you could make a Mickey Mouse porno and call it parody, but if you sell it, probably
337. 1:17:17not. I don't know. I don't I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's crazy, man. We're living in crazy ass times.
338. 1:17:26Almost all the medicine was built on e on ethical actions. Yeah, we're going to use it though. Yeah, listen, I like I don't have like I
339. 1:17:37absolutely agree that that how these models were trained is problematic. I absolutely agree with that. I also know
340. 1:17:44that if any of the model making companies had asked permission, we wouldn't have AI. We just wouldn't. like it's,
341. 1:17:56you know, there's the there's the library/muse argument of of all this work that that basically all work that was out in the
342. 1:18:04public is for the public good and there's there's a greater good here. That's what the tech bros would argue,
343. 1:18:10right? And I I think there's an argument for that. There's also an argument for you stole my work, you [ __ ] [ __ ]
344. 1:18:16But you know it if they took my song Trouble and that made it into a training set somewhere and then someone prompted
345. 1:18:24up a song and then it sounded a little bit like Trouble. Figuring out like what grain of sugar is is in that slice of cake is
346. 1:18:35essentially impossible because the way they embed these the way they embed the data the original files cease to exist.
347. 1:18:42they turn into tokens into these little fragments that are all over the place. So, I think I think what's going to happen
348. 1:18:51is you're just going to have a series of lawsuits against the big companies like Anthropic just settled for $1.5 billion
349. 1:19:01um for the books that they stole that they trained their stuff on. They also bought a bunch of books. Um, and
350. 1:19:08that's not copyright infringement because the the work of encoding it of embedding those books into tokens is
351. 1:19:15transformative. Therefore, it's fair use. But you have to buy the original books. And they had some that they
352. 1:19:21bought and some that they didn't. And so the $ 1.5 billion settlements on the one they didn't. Um, anyway. Yeah.
353. 1:19:32Disney. Yes. Pay us 1 million to use our Mickey. Well, Disney paid Open AI a billion. You misunderstand me. I don't mind AI.
354. 1:19:43Oh, just won't use copyright stuff. I think that's pretty smart. I like I I think I think every artist has to figure
355. 1:19:50out where their boundaries are. Um Kenny Freriedman's a creative director that I really like. Um, and he,
356. 1:19:59you know, he basically has a rule that he won't use any artist's name in prompting. Um, which I think is good.
357. 1:20:07No, no authors, no bands, musicians, visual artists. He won't use any of their names. He'll describe what they
358. 1:20:14do, but won't use their names. I'm so wiped out. Good night, everyone. I'm right there with you, Side Hustle Mimi.
359. 1:20:20I'm I'm I'm cooked. Um, I'm going to get out of here. It's Yeah, it's it's about time. It's about time. It's a little
360. 1:20:26early, but that's all right. People are inspired by everything around used like little tokens. AI is being trained and
361. 1:20:34inspired by everything around us, but is able to do it faster. Exactly. Okay. So, couple of things. AI Festivus. If you've
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366. 1:21:20which you're going to want to, we did a speaker call today and we went over all the all the different talks. It's pretty
367. 1:21:26amazing. It's going to be an amazing couple of days. And I'll tell you, here's a here's a fun fact. This is really cool.
368. 1:21:36There are by far more women presenting than men. And part of that's the influence of she leads AI, but part of
369. 1:21:43that's also just the influence of um women got their got their applications in faster than men because men are stupid.
370. 1:21:56Okay? So go to festivist.com, look at the sponsorship stuff. There's a little thing there where you can help
371. 1:22:02promote Festivus. We give you a whole pile of graphics you can go use and share around with the world. So go do
372. 1:22:08that. Um, tomorrow I've got office hours. So, at 11:00 a.m. Mountain time on LinkedIn, um, if you go to the AI
373. 1:22:15Salon, there's a link there that's got the the URL um, for the AI Salon office hours and meet and greet.
374. 1:22:25And then to night, as always, is Friday night date night where you are requested to come with your nachos and
375. 1:22:38a dirty microwave heated hot pocket if at all possible. Okay, I'm picking ear wax out of my earbud. I don't know why I just shared that
376. 1:22:51detail. Let's clip Let's clip that one, Brandon. Let's get that one out on social media. I just picked ear wax out of my earbud.
377. 1:23:06Get that guy an Emmy on it. Oh my god. All right, everybody. Uh, it was a low-key night tonight. I'm glad we kind of did the uh
378. 1:23:22those crazy versions of Trouble with the offbeat syncopated drum stuff. It's really cool. Oh, my eye is itchy. I'm sure it's not bugs.
379. 1:23:35Okay, Groovy. Groovy. Groovy. Groovy. Groovy. Groovy. So, tomorrow will be normal time. Um, I think that's it. Still waiting on some
380. 1:23:49DMs. Um, yeah. So, listen, how we got 24 people in here for tomorrow. If any of you want to come up on stage, um, just
381. 1:23:57think about it. Come with a project tomorrow. We'll we'll we'll hang out. We'll we'll do a little hang if anyone
382. 1:24:02wants to do a hangout. Okay. All right, groovy man. Have a good night and I will see you on Friday night. Day night.