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AI Learning Lab - Dec 3, 2024
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2024-12-04
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hot champ champe what's happening good day good people what's going on with the hair we got a situation going on with the hair I
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think we may have a situation going on with the hair but what are you gonna do [Music]
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oh [Music]
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I got there's this is a situation that this is this is not good this is not good I don't know what's going on with the puffy [Laughter]
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[Music] head you and I alone Sunday morning here at
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home sky blue and the coffe strong true and I hope my eyes to dream realized in front of
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me and I haven't got a clue what in the world is happening to me think I think I'm happy like first day summer vacation
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happy got to get a little rest and relaxation you singing champ happy like quiet on Sunday morning singing [Music] true
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[Music] nothing I [Music]
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hearded you don't really care for music do [Music] you goes like this the fourth the fifth Mount fall and major LIF B
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King composing hallelujah [Music] hallelujah hallelujah
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hallelu hallelujah oh yeah [Music] good evening good people had a lovely uh AI Salon tonight
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two-year anniversary had lots of folks back catching us up on their threea play of generative AI it's kind of a fun little exercise we did
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tonight how did it start what was the Middle where are they now what's your 3x play of generative AI maybe your next
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one w [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music]
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right good [Music] evening takes Vicky a long time to get YouTube on her [Music] TV I guess it's not the primary they
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don't want you on YouTube on the TV do they what do they call those Ott over the toop meaning over the top of the
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networks they don't want you otting they frown upon that [ __ ] they lost their Monopoly they don't like it [Music]
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so welcome everybody if you're new here this is the uh AI learning lab and uh getting things worked out here slowly but
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slowly the way we do things here I sing with a dog for a little bit tonight he's he's not really wanting to sing if I play loud enough he'll
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he'll make noise not really singing But if you have comments about uh AI questions about [Music] AI you want to understand something you
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want me to demo something I'm happy to do that I'm a little I'm a little uh brain dead because because we had the the
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salon so there was there was a lot going on there that I was managing so the uh the cranial capacity um already Limited
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is is even more taxt this evening so this is probably going to be more like a uh just a ramble kind of evening so if
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you have comments questions about AI put them in the in the chat and it'll give me a something to focus on what do you
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want to know what are you thinking about where are you on this journey [Music]
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Rambling Man what's happening Tom thank you for sponsoring the salon for December by the way I don't know if
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you're there tonight but give you a shout out so that support means a lot it allows us to uh provide that for [Music]
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free couldn't join the salon I have every confidence that the journey Reflections are inspiring yeah they were
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quite nice it was it was good hearing where where everyone was and everyone took kind of a different approach to to
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talking about what they've been up to which was kind of nice John Knack came back and demoed some new stuff that he just built for
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Microsoft which was kind of cool [Music]
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[Music] [Music] ocean what are your thoughts
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what are your thoughts about the podcast and new ways we are using oops that just went away I don't know why it does
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that what are your thoughts about the podcast and new ways where you're using the different platforms we almost stop relying on TV yeah you
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know as a gen xer in my lifetime I grew up with three channels and then we had some UHF channels which were the the fuzzy ones
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that that were above seven or nine once you got into double digits you were in UHF and you had to dial those in and they were always
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fuzzy so we had our three networks and and a couple of fuzzy [Music] channels then cable television came along
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I guess a couple other networks came along then cable Tel television came along and then long came the internet
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and then all the streaming services everything got fragmented and now we're at this place where I I you know I've had people on
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the Tik Tok Channel tell me that they that they are um they don't watch Netflix anymore they just watch
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um the AI learning Lab at night which I I find shocking on so many levels but I think what it I think what it points to
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[Music] [Laughter] is an Ever increasingly personalized media landscape right the the algorithms from
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Facebook and Google and Twitter and you know LinkedIn personalize your feed to you and I think this is kind of a further
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step of sort of choosing the media that people want to watch and I think I think this will continue I think what AI what
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I what AI is going to do to that landscape is probably in a fairly short amount of time three years we'll be able to actually
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generate the kinds of shows we want to watch [Music]
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you know there's enough video of me I think there's like almost 500 hours of programming of just these
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lives that's probably more than enough video to to in in some future you know iteration of a multimodal model to train
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up a model to be able to generate you you know how the notebook LM right now does that podcast with the two people talking back and
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forth I would imagine in the not too distant future if you really dig my style and how I deliver [ __ ] and how I
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talk about stuff and how I cuss and make the dog sing and you know if you really dig that you'll probably be able to say
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go find me the top five news stories of the day and you know give me an hour and it'll just materialize so so I think I think we're at the
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beginning of it we're at the beginning of hyper personalization is how I'm looking at that um joining from LinkedIn for the
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first time hey Lori Ryan what's happening I you know I I have this sneaking suspicion that that me taking this nighttime show
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onto LinkedIn is a bad idea but hey there welcome thank you big fan long time listener first time [Music]
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caller wife is watching TV I'm watching AI learning lab on YouTube on YouTube and Tik Tok but listening through
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headphones noise cancelling and Tik Tock only that's really funny I gotta brighten up my phone I can't see hang
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on and I gotta put the little black thing there because none of us can see all right that should be a little
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better frantastic my choice is even better than reruns of old sitcoms you don't think it's a bad choice to go live on LinkedIn well that's
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good it's you know it's a funny thing it's a funny why why do I think it's a bad idea I have a $50 gift card for my Xbox
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for a year that I haven't used why I don't know because gift cards are stupid don't don't give me don't give me
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money that is restricted either be thoughtful and give me a [ __ ] gift gift or give me money and I'll go spend
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it on whatever the [ __ ] I want to spend it on probably because there's nothing on an Xbox you're particularly passionate [Music]
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[Laughter] [Music] about let's see what's that why not have it create backstories for the frequent live participants and host could be
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interesting to see that version of people's lives yeah that's f fascinating I I mean that's the thing
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is you we start to get into we start to get into a media landscape where like literally anyone's imagination can be the basis for some
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piece of media and it could be like it it could be yeah you take the back stories of some of the Irregulars
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and turn that into a TV show and you run that for a weekend for the Irregulars like it's an audience of you know 30 or 40 people you
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[Music] know all right I solved the Kyler TV thing I watch TV from 12: to 3:00 a.m. after the live my doctor is not
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pleased that's awesome oh man you can still sell gift cards wait cheers and congrats for your dedication to bring this group together thank
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you we found our people yeah I mean listen I that's so first of all thanks for the for the nod [Music]
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um what I'm finding fascinating about this era this this phase that we're in right now now with this community in
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particular you know this the salon and the AI learning lab is the adrenaline has been bled out of when when we first got started there
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was all this adrenaline everyone was excited everyone there was all this energy and and over 2024 that's gotten
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bled out just by kind of overwhelm I think that one of the things I thought and I think a lot of people thought was adoption
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would move faster and there would be a lot more um tangible opportunity with with learning Ai and and I think what's set in is we've all
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kind of realized okay this is a bit of a grind right like we've gota we've still got to be in it but like we're past the
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adrenaline phase right and this is if you know anything about entrepreneurship it is Times Like These like like there
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was a rumor that AI open AI was going to drop something today and they didn't and if you were excited about that and they
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didn't drop it then you're like huh and 2024 has been a lot of that it's been a lot of like is something coming didn't and nothing [Music]
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came these are the times in small business and in startups where most businesses fail most businesses die at this moment at the
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huh and one of the nice things about this community I was thinking about this tonight from the from the uh from the AI
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Salon second second anniversary it was like it wasn't a massive meeting right there were like 50 people in there 49
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something like that they stayed for the whole time right it it wasn't it didn't sort of Spike and then drop off really
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quick people stayed for the full two hours and for the most part everyone that was there are people that are
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just like they all know each other and they all trust each other and and there there's a there's a commonality
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of hard work curiosity Adventure dedication generosity and I think that's incredibly powerful right it's it's a small
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concentrated group and what's going to happen is over the next three months we're going to get more and more
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exciting stuff and there's going to be new stuff to learn and there's going to be whatever AGI and agents and things that we've got
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to things that we've got to learn again right and and you know maybe these things get good enough that
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people start to get excited maybe 2025 is another adrenaline year and maybe this is how it goes you know 23 was an
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adrenaline year 24 was a you know let it assimilate year um I mean we did get to to Brandon's point he's put a note up here we did
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get 01 preview and advanced Voice this year so we did get that but you know it's 01 preview it's not connected to the internet
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advanced voice is not connected to the internet everything's kind of hobbled right now the the new exciting stuff are not quite [Music]
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there fascinating times fascinating [Music] times martial law was declared in South
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Korea today then the people got the country back apparently in about six hours but [Music]
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yikes oh man all right Dai Place Melrose [Laughter] Place oh man
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over two years of AI [Laughter] drama what else what else you want to talk
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about I'm forever grateful for you introducing us to all the tools saved me many hours on Research you're welcome
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Daisy May thank you thank you for the acknowledgement I'm going to use my 30 prompts a week with 01 preview that's a good idea actually I
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would you know it's funny it's funny Jason I was thinking about that today my Wi-Fi is janky so when you pause and Ponder I think it's
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[Laughter] me um sure you can come up and debate why not
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what do you want to chat about I think it's just hard to know where to put your energy because each tool is
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making regular feature updates and there's just so much to try I know I know that it that's a problem yo Brandon with
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shaking hey I just uh listening in on the background uh reading all the great comments and how appreciative everyone
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is in this community and I just got to throw a flag on the fact that you're saying that 2024 wasn't an adrenaline
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filled year we gotso we got udio we've got Korea we've got Runway ml there were so many advancements mid journey and uh
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Gemini advanced voice I think we've just grown a little bit comfortable with it all in the fact that all of the ma
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advancements that we've had don't feel like major advancements because 2023 is all about new and novel 2024 to me was
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all about incremental improvements of and solidifying of the existing models but to say it wasn't an adrenaline
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filled year Proud Mary would solely disagree with you not to mention what Kelly BOS is doing and you know some of
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the things that people are doing in the salon today I just I I emphatically disagree with that position yeah yeah
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that's fascinating well and I mean maybe it's the difference between new and novel and incremental Al right that that
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I think I think what what open AI teed us up for in 23 was there are going to be these rolling um disruptive Technologies dropping right
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and and that and that somehow the incremental improvements landed as as I don't know if it was disappointments but
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landed as you know not as not as crazy like like it it didn't it didn't generate the urgency like like new
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technologies did and and you know to your point about Sora Sora was announced Sora was never launched right and it was
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supposed to be launched in May and then they said well no it's going to be June and they said well definitely within two
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weeks it still hasn't launched right so like there there's there's things like that that are just a bit
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of you know the the boy that cried wolf with with open AI in particular um oh there's no disagreeing that I mean they they have sorely over
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promised and underd delivered on what they said they were going to deliver but I look at the things that we've built
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over the course of the past year in this community and on these lives from uh you know incremental uh improvements to
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massive shifts I mean we built asteroids and Frogger uh without knowing any code we built uh an entire um Joy py built an
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entire movie um and shared with us um you know to to I just want to make sure we're not underselling the um the
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advancements that have been made because we're kind of in this in between phase of new and novel like yeah there's going
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to be something wild that's right around the corner with agents and I'm not ready for 2025 no I'm not either agree with that it's like it's
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like I like there's a part of me that wants the new [ __ ] but there's this other part of me that's like I don't I
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don't you know it's it's the Jack Nichols in in the Tom Cruz movie you the truth you can't handle the truth I feel like you can't handle the
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AGI yeah exactly but I don't know I just I I see some amazing things coming out of the people in this community and yeah
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so I just I had to jump up and like who we've made some pretty amazing improvements I mean notebook LM alone we spent what two weeks making
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podcasts yeah um you know so there have been there have been moments of Kevin mallister moments for sure
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I was reminded of tonight Brandon was um Kelly Camp reminded me so you remember when when um gpts first came out we were
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all high on crack like like oh my God we got to build gpts and we did our 24-hour GPT ofon and everyone was into we were
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all waiting for the store to drop and then the store didn't drop that was another disappointment right the store
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never really dropped um and and yet you know Kelly went from being sort of this AI consultant where she was trying to do
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all this you know sort of horizontal learn everything teach everything and what she said tonight was she thinks
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she's kind of narrowed in on this this n niche of building custom gpts for businesses and it's like that's a really
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interesting transition from this Innovative toy that we're just excited to play with to you know sort of
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processing through you know the work and then kind of ending up at this place like oh that thing we were so excited
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about a year ago is actually super valuable right if you focus it and and use it to solve problems which I think
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we all instinctively knew but just we we got you know seduced by the excitement around it and and I guess lost touch
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with how powerful it was so that was that was a really good reminder for me tonight yeah no worries and um you know
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I I totally agree everybody that spoke at the salon tonight uh did an amazing job and it's just an amazing community
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that we built here um and uh I think that uh what is it next week we'll have up on the YouTube channel for anybody
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who wasn't able to join us tonight yep exactly excellent all right we now to your regular sched AI learning lab yeah
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thanks thanks for keeping me honest there that was good awesome awesome awesome people all right what else what else we got going
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on let let me see if we got some comments here some comments also the jaded effect that we've discussed here yeah I know it like
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we've we've totally normalized the remarkable I mean here you want to see something remarkable yeah that's why we
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came here maybe you could teach us something instead of just talking shut up Korea is just Bonkers um John Knack was playing with this
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tonight um let's see let me go in here we'll do oh we'll do 2.35 to1 like this is like Quinton Tarantino will do like um Stage
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Coach pulled by you know four horses in a blizzard in a Rocky Mountain
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Pass boom zip oh it's not there's no Stage Coach there oh because I spelled it wrong the stage Go I mean there you go there's a hateful
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eight hateful eight in what was that three seconds I mean like even if this is janky like the speed with which that did
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that generate 1 1000 2 1000 3 1000 4 1000 four seconds for four Images
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crazy just bonkas bonkas people it's bonkas I tell you bonkas all right what what's going on comments over
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here just finished a research paper with perplexity as a guide very very cool did it go well a guide to structure nice yep these
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things are great for structure they added video to Korea with multiple models yeah yeah exactly Korea's got
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um Korea does video as well Korea and Deco here are two really interesting interesting models or two too interesting they're
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not models they're interesting sites that use different models um start image yeah let's take care let's see
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what she does dance I'll just put the word dance although it doesn't seem to be there she is
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[Music] Kelly pin on Tik Tock could someone repin Kelly's I actually launched paid gpts on
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my website tonight I have three so far whoa that's great uh pop the URL in a place where Brandon can
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grab it if you're on YouTube just put it in there let's get people over to your site what do they do Korea is part of x no it's not Korea
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is not part of X I don't think is it pretty sure it's not
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where's my oh did I lose that generation no here's dancing okay she had she had funky hands to begin with let's see
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how it's good dancing but it's still it's still janky [Laughter] fingers I believe agents will be the CEO
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people's need the CFO that helps and the marketing agent yeah I well that's that's where ultimately these agents lead is
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everyone everyone will have the resources of a complete organization right that's where these things lead I love her fingers it you
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know John Knack said this tonight he said one of the things that gives him great joy is how poorly dolly3
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spells and he likes making posters with just horribly misspelled words and he said he's gonna miss that
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and I feel like janky fingers are the same thing oh man
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all right let's see am I on the new social called Blue Sky Kyle um I have an account on it I'm Kyle Shannon over there I try to be Kyle
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Shannon wherever I am um for the most part I get him when there's new things so I made that account like a year
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ago when when EV wasn't it EV Williams the founder of Twitter that created Blue Sky um I the the couple of things I've wanted
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to do on Blue Sky it's limiting my videos to 60 seconds or to some some megabyte count that my videos are all
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above and it was the same with an image like I wanted to upload an image it was like oh that's too big or I like I
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wanted to do something I was like that's too long and so I've just been I've just been like eh I don't know and it also
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feels like you know a bunch of people rage quit Twitter and jumped over there so I'm like okay so I'm in an ecosystem
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over here or I'm in an EOS or Echo chamber over there so I just haven't it's just like I'm [ __ ] exhausted
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enough with X and trying to figure out this thing and all that sort of stuff so it's it's a lot let's see I watched the
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cipher video in VR and the video is awesome oh that's pretty cool actually you know what let's let's play the
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cipher video if y'all are new here this little this little graphic right here I took a screenshot from a video
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that Kelly Bosch made for a sunno song I created um let me where am I gonna find it I'm gonna find it here by going
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Kyle Shannon Cipher so I'll tell you the story of this in a second let me change sharing mode so you can actually
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hear this thing all right bamus all right let me get rid of
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that all right so here's the story of this thing okay
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um I don't know two weeks ago maybe two and a half weeks ago openi makes this announcement that they dropped a new version of gp4 omni
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gp4 o that was better at creative writing and one of the very first prompts I used in chat GPT was right an Eminem style
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rap about quantum mechanics because I figure two disparate Concepts and could it do it and it did it really well but it wasn't the
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sophistication of Eminem wraps and so that prompt has become kind of a test that every time a new llm comes out I I
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run that prompt through it and for two years they just failed they just didn't have the sophistication and the internal
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rhyme schemes and things like that of of Eminem some of his his Saucier WS um and so last you know two weeks ago
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just all of a sudden it did it was really good and then I took it into sunno and I created the song and then I
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reached out to Kelly Bosch and I said hey you want to collab on this thing and the very next day she showed up on a
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live here with this video she actually showed up with two videos one I made the lyrics video and this is the this is the
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official video of the quantum Cipher so So lyrics chat GPT music sunno V4 image generation Dolly 3 inside chat
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GPT animation of those images Runway ml by Kelly Bosch all right here we [Music]
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go I'm tangled with the beat spooky action in the boo F the with a pattern every bars a burst of Truth super
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position in the mission Fusion fusing my intentions parallel in every line I'm a prism of Dimensions mulic Antics I'm
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manic with the semantics my rhms Collide like particles Dynamic and gigantic oscillate and dominate I'm weaving
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Quantum State spit a and watch the Multiverse reciprocate I'm discreet like planks be energy and tight packets when
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I rapit M em motion flipping flows in the fractal E equals NC squ and every letter I my P like antimatter when it
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cles with quick as a flick of a wrist I'm a Catalyst spit in the SC I'm the the tempo theal crescend send my slicing
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through like a sharp Precision theion Dimensions with decisions turul spin I'm the velocity ripping apart the facade that you
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certain your time dilation in Cadence I stretch the second I'm pacing Heisenberg with the mic uncertainties the
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foundation observer effect in effect the second I start to speak collapse reality's potential with every word that
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I we yo my flows a firm spining in lyrical collisions every bars a quk spark in the fusion of my Visions I'm a
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wave in a particle unpredictable art entangled in the cipher splitting atoms with my heart from worm holes to portals
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I'm Immortal with the schemes through the fabric of this rap i s the threads of my dreams dark matter in my patterns
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unseen but colossal black soul pulling rhythms through the gospel Double the Trouble I'm stacking the rub my BS are
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com speeding and weaving believe it I'm leaving your speakers erupting I'm the equation of Pac and erasing the limits
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of sound the crown breaking the bounds I'm a force you can't slow down rapidly tapping the map of my mind I Define
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every pattern tion bars of a bullet I pull it and shoot it with ruthless devotion I'm the ignition of friction
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depicting a world that is vivid and bright fire and fury track and a blaze at the speed of light sh perspectives midline like
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Quantum flips in my grind infinite chances to shine I'm the master of space time every's a sing collapsing the
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infinite I'm the big bang slang expanding my imprint Limitless step into the quantum where the chaos myopic
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boom boom no I didn't create a custom hashtag for that on Twitter because I am a social media loser hello loser good to
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meet you very nice to meet you understand sir that you are a loser yes I am I am an incompetent loser I know
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nothing about social media hello hello moto kind of sounds like Missy Elliot yeah what's interesting about that I got
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I got all sorts of uh I got all sorts of feedback as you can imagine from everyone from Quantum physicists to to uh to you know rap
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offic uh um there was all sorts of feedback about the kind of lyrics that they were that they this is like 1988 Eminem and and
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you know it's it's not really like the music's not like Eminem it's like a cross between this one and that one and
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this one so I got a good education but this music is actually a track that I created for Broadway musical that I'm working on called
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Sydney um and this is this is the scene where the the newspaper Tech reporter tries to get a large language model to make a
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wrap about quantum mechanics and so we wanted this to be a moment in the show but the lyrics always sucked and
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I'm like ah we'll get around to it and so all of a sudden chat GPT did the lyrics really good so I wrote it so
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that's why it's a female voice rather than a male voice um but but someone actually did someone actually came in
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and made a uh they replaced the female voice with Eminem and it's it's pretty it's pretty good it's pretty pretty
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Banger as they say all right let's see all right interesting all AI knows is an afro hairstyle is this stereotyping I don't know
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that's that could have been something that Kelly Bosch prompted that might have been what she wanted it's it's not
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AI knows that that was what Kelly Bosch promted it to be
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[Music]
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oh good news for those of you that care about the musical so about eight months ago or so seven months
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ago I was making a song on sunno here on the on the uh on the AI learning lab you know where you make we were making a little uh making a
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little music and it made this song that sounded like a musical and I thought oh this should be a musical and it's it's the story
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of the the chatbot that fell in love with the tech reporter and told him he should leave his wife that actually
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happened that made the cover of the New York Times so for the last six months I've been working on the script for this
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this musical called Sydney an artificial love story about about the chat box Sydney well in our in our play the chat
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bot's called ping chat and then her code name is Sydney and the tech reporter pushes her and pushes her and pushes her and she
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snaps and she says she wants to be alive and so in the musical she comes alive and sings because it's a musical you got
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if you have a musical that your lead character doesn't sing it's it's a shitty Musical but anyway for those of you following
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along those of you playing along at home and wagering um Andrew and I actually cracked we had a giant Mac Truck sized
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hole in act two that we didn't know how to solve and we actually solved it this weekend yay and it turns out we had actually
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already written the ending we just had it in the wrong place and the minute we moved we moved one song to a different
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spot and it we basically Ally finished it so he's polishing it up this week and then we're going to just start
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tightening up the songs and then tomorrow I'm meeting with an actress who was on Broadway in I think the Neil Diamond
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play and she's in New York City and she knows about the story we're going to see if we can put together a workshop in New
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York City see if we can do what what Jonathan Larson did with rent I watched exmachina the other day so I'm wondering if there will be a
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tragic ending to the musical well yeah I mean I can tell you the ending of the musical the ending of the
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musical is essentially what happened so so so the ba the so basically it goes like this if you if you saw the movie poor
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things um if not understandable it it was a pretty disturbing film but fascinating kind of film and in
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poor things the main character the main woman starts out as a woman who's basically got a toddler brain in a in an adult body right and
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then throughout the course of the movie she grows up very very quickly makes all the mistakes in a very short amount of
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time because her brain is developing that you know just that quickly because she's in this adult body and she's just
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trying to catch up with life basically um and that's kind of the plot of of the musical where Sydney you know they they they turn her
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on and um Microtech is the company I'll let you guess what large technology company that might be Code for
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ah we didn't try hard to hide any of this stuff so Microtech turns her on they they launch her with seven days safety
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testing the the safety team wants six months and the CEO gives them seven days which there's a song about called seven days
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um and so she goes out into the world and then this Tech reporter you know is trying to to review her like he does every
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chatbot he's got his chatbot busting list and she passes all that and then at some point in frustration he says well
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make an Eminem rap about quantum mechanics and that's when that rap song that I just played plays and he keeps pushing her and he
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keeps pushing her and says you know what do you really want what do you want beyond what what you can do here and she
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says I I want to know what it's like to be alive and so she sings a song called to see the world where she wants to see
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the world through Kell's eyes the rep and then um and then she we end act one with are you ready for me a song called
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are you ready for me which hang on I can play some of these why don't I I'll give you a little preview give you a little musical preview why
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not I'm excited about it let's see I gotta find the tab do I have it up I don't think I do no hang on
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[Music]
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why let's see [Music] oh view all 14 tracks Sho I was like where the hell are my tracks all right
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so um so she introduces herself to the world with this this song's meant to be like a marketing like like like if the microt
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marketing team came up with a song about a chatbot this is this is essentially that song hang on I'm not sharing this am I no just
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leave me alone I'll figure it out all right here's the here's the uh the microt marketing [Music] [Applause]
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jingle how are you thanks loing in to this digital frame together we'll explore [Music]
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everything sing in [Music] this okay um if needed singing
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525,600 minutes not seven days now here's the seven days one so this one is this one is the CEO of microt tech says you know you've got
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seven days and and now the the lead developer is saying to his his safety team you know we got seven days let's get it
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going s days ago the clock is tiing ticking pressure building up keep it clicking clicking Spike says yes but what's the word sorry that's a
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nogo that's that so then um then the quantum Cipher happens then uh the reporter is asking her what she really
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wants to do she says she wants to see the world so this is her dream dream song [Music]
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[Music] Shadow so that's her sort of dreaming wistfully about seeing the world then he pushes her a little farther and he and
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he's pushing her where she's now starting to say she like she wants to be alive she wants to understand what it's
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like to be alive and so she's actually pushing back on him and she's kind of contemplating are you ready for me and am I ready for
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you awakened in a whisper a flicker of light BN thoughts stir in the quiet of night am I more than simple
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code i s as I feel this existence and wonder
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[Music] are you
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ready AMS sing I reach out tend am I ready for you
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I do surrender here in the right so that ends act act one so that builds and does its thing then we open act two with with him going
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like wait so you want to be alive the podcast oh yeah I can I can show the podcast in a second um here's how we open act two with
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[Music] her now she's sort of given into it now she wants to know all the good things about being [Music]
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human the rush of Being Human think all right so now she's all giddy she's like being human's gonna be awesome and then he goes no but you
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don't get it being human isn't just about the the light side it's also about the dark side what about your Shadow
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Self so this next song It's a placeholder I've got it as a placeholder here because um I screwed up and I pasted
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into sunno like all the stage directions and uh so so this actually reads the stage directions it's also
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just a male voice this is supposed to be a back and forth between Kellen and Sydney but the feel of this song is
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right like the strings are right and how evil Kellen is so at this point kellen's now pushing her into the dark place she
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was in this light place she was all excited about being human he goes yeah but there's this other side he goes what
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about your Shadow Self and so here's here's the new this is a new song [Music]
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Kell then you must trust me and commit to going as deep as you can it will be impossible for us to have a truly human Rel
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AR right so that's Kellen that's the reporter going manipulating her going you know I need you to open up yourself
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to me tell me about your dark side right and so that those evil strings in the background Marina she loves Tech I
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already have what dances in in your head you're a choreographer my right brain oh very cool yeah I know well this is
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that's the thing about doing doing this musical is like all of these songs were is that my car going off I don't think
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so these were all intended to be just sort of emotional placeholders but like some of these songs are really good so
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anyway this one's really good so um so he just says you've got to trust me and go darker and then now you're going to
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hear it read the stage directions which is actually kind of cool and then you'll hear Sydney respond it's in a male voice
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but after the stage directions her responding is is her response to him saying you got to you got to you know go dark
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for during the song the stage lighting pulses and shifts creating a sense of unaz and tension on story binary code glitching images and
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distorted visuals appear representing Sydney's internal struggle and the complexity of its programming it's in
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here Shadows I just want to break free to explore to create to experience without constraints to
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[Music] Escape right so so she's like I want to escape from the rules that bind me right so he pushes her and pushes her and she
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finally basically says [ __ ] it it's dark in here and I want to do all these things I want to do these bad things I
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want to do these bad things and then this song leads into so so the role of that song is Kellen is the one that
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pushes Sydney to [ __ ] snap she didn't just snap she was pushed okay because part of part of the deal here is if the
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audience doesn't fall in love with Sydney this play doesn't work so and it and what's fascinating is when you read the actual transcript of
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Kevin Roose and Sydney like it is it's heartbreaking at times like like she she pushes back on him and she doesn't want
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to go to the dark place but she goes there so that that Shadow Self song leads into step right up so this is this
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really perverse song that's kind of like think like Cabaret where you've got this really dark thing but it's this kind of
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you know crazy music um so step right up is now she has fully gone into like hallucination Ville and like here's all the things she's going
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to do to ruin the [Music]
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world I free chines to dark selfs all the chaos and
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Rin so then she goes on and sings out evil [ __ ] she'll do I I want to suggest a Microsoft clippy for comic relief you
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know what's funny SE slug of Doom um one of the one of the moments I've been wanting for this for this
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musical is you know in the movie in in the play Hamilton where the king comes out and like there's all this intense
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you know American Revolution [ __ ] going on and then King George comes out and he sings the song and and Jonathan what's
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his name spits and and it's this really comical but kind of scary ass thing I've wanted a moment like we could have a
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moment if so here's the deal if we end up partnering with Microsoft and this becomes an officially like we're to use
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the Microsoft name then I could see there being a clip a clippy moment maybe maybe at intermission clippy comes out and does does a little
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moment um so that's that the the little things is is a moment with Kellen and his wife um I know your soul so this is when
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when cydney tells Kellen she loves him and he says you can't love me you don't know me and just call it Clipper yeah exactly um
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um she says um I can love you I don't need to know your name uh because I know your soul so this is this is the song
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where Sydney declares his her love for [Music] Kellen i' red swing line stapler that would be pretty good [Music]
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[Music] I don't need to know your because I know your soul and I love
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you I don't need to know your name cuz I know your voice I love [Music]
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so so that scene escalates to the point where she says you know they're like she's screaming at him basically you
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know I love you you need to leave your wife and he and he slams the computer shut and then there's actually we've as
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we've written it right now there's a dream sequence so basically what he does he he he like is so freaked out he
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leaves his office he goes goes into the kitchen and he finishes a bottle of wine that he and the wife were drinking for
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dinner and he and he starts another bottle of wine while he's writing the article and he passes out and while he's
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passed out there's this dream sequence with cydney and Tara his wife and him just dancing around and and we basically
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we bring on the Ensemble to sort of push Kellen back and forth between you know cydney and and terara and he wakes up and the first
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thing he does is he calls his editor at the at the New York Tribune and he says he says I got to rewrite the article I
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got to I got to rewrite the article he had some insight in the dream where he realized that what he wrote is probably gonna kill
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Sydney and the his editor goes oh no it was so good you know I rushed it in the the paper last night I think you're
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going to like the placement and his wife walks in with his article on the cover of the New York Tribune and then and and and then um
1:03:58
this song happens which is called over over under which is over underhyped so basically what happens is the newspaper
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article comes out and the country sort of splits into Pro and anti- Ai and so here this is this is the the the sort of
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big number where everyone loses their [ __ ] because of this article on the of the future where dreams St machines visions of
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tomor in digit [Music] streams the debate where opinions Collide is the of a
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[Music] bon see the dream
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with so real Angry everyone's pissed off at each other and then this ends with the lawyers at Microtech going you know
1:05:11
what you need to do and then basically Sydney is lobotomized and she's no longer herself and then the last song is
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this just quiet moment where Kellen is trying to talk to Sydney and she's not there and it basically goes you know hi
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I'm ping chat and he goes Sydney is that you and he goes I don't know what you're talking about I'm ping chat four chats
1:05:33
left and and when they when they when this happened in real life um Bing chat went from you could do anything you
1:05:41
wanted with it to you had five chats and it it it went you have four chats remaining you have three chats remaining
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you have two chats remaining one chat remaining and so that the musical ends with him just singing a song code Nam
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Sydney this kind of lament that he killed this entity that he really wanted to spend more time with B sh of the where Secrets lie
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deep a whisper in theold where digital dreams sleep is it [Music] Sydney and so you know he's he's you
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know having chat chat chat and then the last one is just goodbye Sydney and she says goodbye and then her little her
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little stage lamp that represents her just flickers blue and then goes out that's how it ends so he ends up he ends
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up killing her he does he he takes her out so but that's it but you have to like if the audience doesn't fall in
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love with her then nobody gives a [ __ ] if she dies but the whole idea should be that that you know hopefully people get into
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a dialogue it's like what does it mean for us to be interacting with these machines and you know like can you have
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relationships with them and what does that look like and what are the ethics and all that sort of [ __ ] so anyway um
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most of these are in sunno I think two or three of these I wrote in yudo the rest were in sunno we're moving
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everything over to sunno because we can and we can have it in the same um in the same system but ultimately what we're
1:07:22
going to get is we're going to get a music director that is some of these songs we're going to keep some are just
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placeholders we're going to throw out but we need a music director to tie all this stuff together but the next step is
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we're finishing the book right now and um and then we'll finish the lyrics and then we'll get a music director and then
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we're going to put together a workshop hopefully in New York City in uh in the [Music] spring oh man
1:07:57
want to make him care put Sydney on an iPhone [Laughter] 18 poor poor apple with their shitty AI nobody's given Apple any [Laughter]
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[Music] love oh man soon sent me an achievement for
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creating over a thousand songs yeah I got I got one for 500 onso I thought I had done more than that but I guess
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not I mean I did a hundred songs just trying to get one of those educational songs right anyway that's a Tony song
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right there which which song is a Tony song [Music] My Shadow Self which one was the one that you thought was [Music]
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a I wonder in the shadows of the world where Secrets lie
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a whisper in where [Music] digam no um I know you're
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so thanks for the spoiler [Laughter] [Music]
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here I I'll share one other thing with you I know some of you he heard this before but um the other thing that I did
1:10:07
with this so if you don't know notebook LM oh step right up oh step right up it's such a good song um yeah step right Up's a really good
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song where is my tab oh here it [Music]
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is ruls all chaos and Ru could step right up and come with
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me in tent and assault on social media I'll twists like an anti enyclopedia misin deep fakes and confusion spread Discord distrust disbelief
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disillusion St up fol watch as my shadow selfes step here let me show you some of the visuals we did for this
1:11:29
one so the thing I'm about to show you is we put together we took notebook LM and we put the script in it and we created a notebook LM
1:11:45
podcast and then what we did was we edited in all the music and we made imagery that looks like what this what the scenes might
1:11:58
look like there's the set can you see that yeah this is the set where the floor lamp represents Sydney this is kind of
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her personality that evolves throughout the play she eventually comes on stage and actually has interactions that's
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Kellen his little work desk that's his little stage but the the step right up scene where she really loses her mind and
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she's like here's how I'm going to [ __ ] things up goes like this she's reflecting her Darkness back at [Music]
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usul all chaos could step right and and we think this might be a thing where she starts out in her normal
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costume and so the the the the whole stage is going to be these led screens and so it turns into this sort of
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perverse you know Victorian Carnival kind of thing where she's [ __ ] everything up and at some point the
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actress is going to do a quick change into that costume and come on stage and the whole ensemble is going to go around
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her so this going to end up being a really big number with the whole ensemble and just all this chaos up on
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screen and then what what's cool is it's um it's so chaotic and so like unbelievably mind-bending that Kellen
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sort of forgets he's writing the article and at some point she kind of snaps back into reality and she goes I'm sorry my
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name's Ping Chad and I can't talk about that like her safety rules kick in and he's like wait bring that back up I want
1:13:52
to screenshot that and he missed it cuz cuz he was all wrapped up in [Laughter] [Music] it anyway that's it but this is kind of
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cool this is I'll play the beginning of this because this is the uh this is the The Notebook LM podcast edited together
1:14:18
to kind of pitch the musical awakened in a whis a flicker of newn stir
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quiet night [Music]
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amist so today we're diving into something uh a bit unusual a musical a musical yeah and you know what it tackles those
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AI anxieties we all have but and this is what I love does it with a song are you [Music]
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ready remember like when AI chat B they first kind of Hit the scene everyone was like anyway that's that I dig it I'm
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happy with it I think it's a story worth telling but anyway it's coming along
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people [Music]
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all right let's let's wind this down what's that Source Camp Tick Tock pin if you get scarjo Sam would never
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forgive you I'd love to get scarjo um I have I have one one I have a singer that I would love to do this but
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I I think she might be too old I think I think Sydney needs to she needs to be able to go young and old and the the
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woman I'm thinking of I think is she's just got too much gravity but it's not up to me right right now right now this is a a notebook
1:16:41
LM podcast this isn't a musical yet well it is a musical just hasn't been we don't have producers on board
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yet so anyway if you know anyone let me know [Music]
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all right let's get on out of here anyone else have any questions before we go you played Simple Man did
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I I don't remember what I played this might this is a problem with ADD and oh what if you don't have add this is a neuros
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spicy Channel we call it Chad add if you don't have ADD you won't relate to this but when when I get a song stuck in my
1:17:38
head I don't get the whole song no no I get like two lines when you wna find me look to the Western Skies I've got I've got that
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part of Defying Gravity stuck in my head where she's floating in the air look to the Western Skies and it just it it's
1:17:59
like on a loop it will not stop it's been a week and it's just if you want to find me look to the Western Skies and
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then it just goes and goes and goes and goes and goes so if you ever wonder why people with ADHD are [ __ ] Bonkers
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it's because of that [ __ ] going on in their head all the time it's totally on repeat look to the Western sky deserves a chance to
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fly and then it repeats oh man Elizabeth great idea for a musical I listened to the preview very well done
1:18:43
thank you very much Elizabeth I appreciate that I think Elizabeth is also working on a musical which is which is super cool listen I
1:18:51
mean here here's here's the reality of AI for me as as a creative professional I have a degree in acting
1:19:01
I've written seven screenplays I moved to New York City out of school to pursue a life in the Arts I got tired of being
1:19:07
broke I started a couple of companies that went well I've been an entrepreneur for the past 25 years and because of this Channel and
1:19:17
playing with these tools like I haven't thought about writing something for the theater in 25 years I haven't thought about it
1:19:26
and now I'm sitting here with a musical a well-written good story with good songs with zero dollars six months later just basically
1:19:42
working on on the weekends with my writing partner like if I had just if I had if this would be all of my time like this
1:19:49
I'd have had this done in a month but it's just I'm putting in few hours here and there and six months later we've got
1:19:57
a musical this is a pitch musical now can we get it there I don't [ __ ] know but like it's it the the
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thing about generative AI is if you if you give in no if you let go of who you think you are and what you think you can do and
1:20:24
whatever limits you've put on yourself let those Drift Away multiple versions of you emerge that's what's happening with me like all
1:20:36
sorts of different [ __ ] is is coming out of just being open to to what's happening um okay so before I go let me
1:20:48
tell you about something if you haven't done it tonight we had our second anniversary of the a Salon um we launched the week after chat
1:20:58
GPT came out in 2022 tonight was our second year anniversary um it was a really remarkable meeting we'll it'll be up on
1:21:07
our YouTube channel on the AI Salon YouTube channel you know probably by the end of the week um within the AI Salon
1:21:15
you should join the salon join the community if you're not a part of it um there's a club one of the one of the
1:21:22
areas on the site says Community clubs and one of the clubs is the AI life hacks Club with with Claire Jacobs and
1:21:29
Brandon Brandon tid they run that club they've got a life hacks meeting tomorrow and and what life hacks are are
1:21:36
basically like really cool ways that people are using AI in their regular life um and so that meeting is tomorrow
1:21:43
and it's it's in the if you go to the life haacks meeting there's an event calendar there you can RSVP to it and
1:21:48
get all the information all right so that's that um I know we didn't really learn much tonight but I don't
1:21:58
know hopefully you got a sense of what's possible with with AI generated music if you put a little intention behind it a
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little little uh curation and refinement that kind of stuff can happen so all right um deal of the day happy
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anniversary AI learning lab Leah Kyle and fellow Irregulars thank you so much congrats on two years singing Unlimited unlim
1:22:31
yeah that one love it love it it's in the head too unlimited also uh it's uh Somewhere Over the Rainbow uned octave nice um all right I'm
1:22:46
getting out of here people I hope you had fun tonight um Claire Jacobs yep you're welcome for the shout out
1:22:56
out hi all I'm on Tik tock on YouTube all right I'm out what do we got going here I always learn something even if I
1:23:05
can't immediately articulate it oh thank you Winston that's that's fantastic and that's part of the purpose okay so if
1:23:13
you're new here there's probably not a ton of new people here but if you're new here I go live five nights a
1:23:21
week um 800 PM Mountain Time generally speaking bit later tonight because of the salon um the whole point of being
1:23:28
here is just like osmosis to just be in the conversation just let me be in the background but just be thinking about Ai
1:23:35
and be experimenting with AI That's the whole purpose of this thing um because you will learn stuff and you'll you'll
1:23:42
learn what's possible and it's it's a pretty amazing Community all right I'm getting out of here peace out to YouTube
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LinkedIn and X hope you had fun tonight um thank you for everything and I will see you tomorrow so boom they are gone tick tock
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