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2/25/2026 - Designing an Autonomous AI Agent with Personality and Long Term Memory

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Kyle Shannon explores the technical and philosophical boundaries of AI by sharing his progress building "Adam," his first autonomous agent. He details the process of designing an AI’s "soul" and memory, using fallbacks between models like Anthropic and Gemini to maintain performance. This hands-on experiment serves as a window into how agents might soon manage the digital complexity that currently consumes our workdays. The conversation shifts toward "The Great Repurpose," a movement addressing the identity crisis triggered by AI automating traditional knowledge work. Kyle suggests that as AI strips away task-based value, humans must confront a "mass ego death" to rediscover their purpose and creativity. He frames this transition as an opportunity to simplify our lives and focus on community rather than the Byzantine processes of the industrial age. #AIagents,#OpenClaw,#KyleShannon,#TheGreatRepurpose,#ArtificialIntelligence,#FutureOfWork,#Anthropic,#AISalon Chapters: 00:00:00 Opening Song 00:03:06 Work Day Recap 00:03:44 Introducing Adam Bot 00:06:28 The Great Repurpose 00:07:43 Special Guest Robert 00:10:18 AI Learning Lab 00:11:50 Speaking Engagement Story 00:15:44 AI Hype Phases 00:21:13 AI Assistant Failure 00:24:07 Automating the Salon 00:28:12 Designing AI Souls 00:30:14 Building Memory Systems 00:36:01 Chat GPT Issues 00:39:57 OpenClaw Evolution 00:43:46 Technical Curiosity Phases 00:47:32 Simplicity Layer Theory 00:52:13 Global AI Adoption 00:56:48 Preserving Human Knowledge 01:01:21 Trivializing Knowledge Work 01:06:20 Mass Ego Death 01:12:44 Tipping Point Crisis 01:18:01 The Jagged Frontier 01:25:04 Joining the Salon 01:30:41 Mastermind Practice Lab 01:32:53 Final Surfing Analogy

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0:06 Champy.
0:10 Oh.
1:02 There's been something, baby, I've been
1:05 trying to
1:08 for an age and it seems I don't know how
1:15 past and a future now surrounding me.
1:21 Surrender to a liberty still can't be
1:23 found.
1:26 There's been a little trouble
1:29 since you came to my rescue.
1:36 And if you like all of the rest, I would
1:39 quit you long ago, but I couldn't do
1:43 that.
1:47 Oh, tell me now.
1:55 Make a man crazy. Make him cold as hell.
2:00 Make them
2:03 on a woman that you wish me well.
2:07 But I'm spotty trying. Still going to
2:10 have to find my way through.
2:32 Come on, boy.
3:07 So, I spent what's today? Wednesday.
3:11 I had a Today at work was a wild day.
3:14 Three pitches. Um, so that was that's
3:17 good. Having pitches in business is
3:19 good.
3:21 um did three pitches.
3:24 I had two impromptu client meetings.
3:26 Hey, can you just hop on a call real
3:28 quick? There's like 10 people on there
3:29 talking about
3:32 whatever [ __ ]
3:38 What else did I do? I don't know. Some
3:41 other calls. Did some work. Got some
3:43 things done.
3:45 Got some things not done. had an idea to
3:48 start a new article about Adam, my my
3:51 Claudebot, my first Claudebot.
3:57 He was offline today, but he's back now.
4:00 He's using Sonnet 4.6. I feel so I feel
4:04 so
4:06 I'm so fancy. I'm so fancy. Well, Adam's
4:09 so fancy.
4:26 I realized something about how I work.
4:30 Is it Is it that you wear sunglasses?
4:33 Maybe part of your challenge is you
4:34 can't see the screen. Have you ever
4:36 thought about that with your with your
4:37 fancy sunglasses there? Maybe that's
4:39 part of the challenge. You know, you're
4:41 inside, right?
4:43 Yeah, but I'm playing a guitar,
4:46 so I'm trying to look like a rock star.
4:49 Granny,
4:52 I don't know why she's up my butt.
4:55 I'm trying to be a rock star over here.
4:57 Hey, Joy Pretty, what's happening? Encou
5:00 encourage your viewers to share your
5:02 live. Hey, viewers, will you share my
5:05 live?
5:07 Danielle.
5:19 Danielle reposted. Danielle shared. She
5:21 knows how to do this. She's good at
5:23 this. Welcome back. I haven't seen you
5:24 in a bit.
5:56 Um,
5:59 so what we're going to do tonight,
6:03 I've been here every night. Oh, just not
6:05 chatty. Oh, cool. Well, it's good to see
6:07 you again.
6:09 I am glad you're back in the back in the
6:13 land of the visible. I was missing you.
6:16 Hey, you don't have to chat. If you're
6:18 here, cool.
6:29 Um, I got the um I don't know if I
6:33 mentioned this, but when I when I did
6:35 the Great Repurpose and I made the Great
6:37 Repurpose music video,
6:40 that stupid [ __ ] song, it's not a
6:42 stupid song. I like that song. That song
6:46 has been stuck in my head for two and a
6:48 half weeks. It It was out yesterday.
6:54 I woke up this morning. It was back in,
6:56 but it didn't last.
6:58 So,
7:00 so I'm I'm I'm tempted to play it again,
7:04 play the video again just just to see
7:07 see if my brain has successfully purged
7:10 it or if it's just going to start it
7:11 over again.
7:31 Um, let's let's tempt the fate, shall
7:33 we? Here, I'll take off my stupid
7:35 glasses.
7:36 I actually like those glasses. I don't
7:38 think they're stupid. I think like I
7:40 look like a rock star. Tik Tok pin
7:43 source camp. I showed chat GPT and
7:46 notion a client who had never seen any
7:50 of it.
7:53 Wow. I had a great talk today. source
7:56 camp uh with uh with uh oh my god,
7:59 what's his first name?
8:07 Robert.
8:09 Robert and I had a great talk
8:13 and um loved him and we talked about all
8:17 the stuff he was doing and how you
8:19 discovered him and uh HT Snowday who is
8:22 going to speak next Tuesday uh can't do
8:24 it. I found out this morning he can't do
8:27 it. So I said, "Hey, Robert, what are
8:29 you doing next Tuesday?" So Robert is
8:32 going to be our uh our special guest on
8:34 on Yield uh uh AI Salon Presents. So I'm
8:39 I'm really excited about it.
8:47 And I think that's the first person
8:48 you've ever sent me like that, Kelly.
8:50 You were like, "This guy's really good."
8:51 So
9:06 walk desperately hating his his old
9:10 place. I'm discerning. Yeah, it's good.
9:13 It's really good.
9:18 Seemed discover his waitress
9:23 desperately hitting his whole place.
9:25 Seemed discover a new space and buried
9:28 himself alive
9:30 inside his basement some of his basement
9:34 working away on displacement. What it
9:36 would take to survive
9:41 when you're done with this world.
9:46 You know, the mix is up to you.
10:18 Oh, I didn't say what I thought we were
10:20 going to do tonight. Here's what I think
10:21 we're going to do tonight.
10:23 I have not been a very good AI learning
10:26 lab leader and and been obsessively
10:30 checking out X for the past week.
10:34 Um, and producer Brandon, bless his
10:37 heart, has been just sending me event
10:41 after event or like announcement after
10:43 announcement. So, I got a lot of stuff
10:44 to look at. Um, but I thought it might
10:47 be interesting just to go see see what
10:49 we see, see if there's anything fun and
10:51 interesting out there and then go play
10:52 with some stuff
10:54 in the spirit of play. Play first.
11:10 Hey, you want to hear something funny
11:11 about my brain? Sure, Kyle. Go ahead.
11:15 You're the only one talking.
11:27 I'm such an idiot sometimes.
11:33 Welcome to my comedy show where I'm the
11:36 audience and the whole show is about
11:39 whether or not I can make myself laugh.
11:41 And I did.
11:44 Can we even stop him? No, you can't.
11:48 What was I gonna say? I don't even know
11:49 what I was going to say. Can I tell you
11:51 something? Oh, how my brain works. So So
11:55 I don't know if you know this. Like
11:56 three weeks ago came up with this thing,
11:57 the great repurpose. I made a song. We
11:59 made a website here. We're going to
12:00 market the [ __ ] out of it. We're sending
12:03 out notes. People are It's just It's
12:05 [ __ ] awesome, right?
12:08 So, I I reach out to Dan Murray, who
12:11 runs the Rocky Mountain AI interest
12:12 group, because I thought, wouldn't it be
12:14 cool to go give a talk up there, and I'm
12:18 historically kind of bad at asking for
12:21 [ __ ] for myself? Because I had that
12:22 little voice in my head. It's like, they
12:24 really don't want to hear from you. And
12:26 what I've realized is they actually do
12:27 want to hear from me and they always
12:29 have. And so, so I thought, I know, I'll
12:33 reach out and this will be awesome. And
12:36 he was like, [ __ ] yes, bring it on.
12:40 We we picked a tenative date. And he
12:42 goes, "Let me check with our
12:45 speaker coordinator,
12:49 see if you're good."
12:50 And then he texts me back, uh, aren't
12:54 you already scheduled to speak at the
12:56 Rocky Mountain AI interest group? And I
12:58 was like, uh, am I?
13:05 And I'm looking at my emails. There's
13:07 nothing. There's nothing in my [ __ ]
13:09 brain. I'm like, did I? And then I kind
13:12 of vaguely remember, wait a minute, did
13:14 someone reach out to me on LinkedIn? And
13:17 I go to LinkedIn and sure enough there's
13:19 a whole conversation with me and a woman
13:22 from Rocky Mountain AI interest group
13:24 which is probably the woman he reached
13:25 out to who said like uh is this guy for
13:28 real? Like we're already scheduled in
13:30 April. Tik Tok pin. I'm sending this
13:33 website out far and wide. The great
13:35 repurpose do it. Go go go the
13:37 greatrepurpose.com. If you haven't seen
13:39 it, go see it and go take the uh the
13:42 profile. So the profile
13:45 um it assigns you a great repurpose
13:48 type. So we take all of your inputs and
13:50 we map them against 10 different types.
13:53 I think I'm a catalyst.
13:56 The proper response is thank you.
14:05 So anyway, so I had to I had to write
14:08 back to to uh to Dan Murray and say,
14:11 "Yeah."
14:16 So I won't be talking about The Great
14:17 Repurpose. I'll be talking about
14:19 storytelling because that's what I
14:20 agreed to. So we'll find another
14:24 we'll find another place to talk about
14:26 Great Repurpose.
14:33 Erica Hana in the house. What's shaking?
14:36 What's shaking, lady? Welcome, welcome,
14:39 welcome.
15:02 It's not simple.
15:06 It's not simple to say
15:10 the most.
15:13 I don't recognize me. The these shoes,
15:16 the these shoes, the these
15:20 shoes and this apron that place and its
15:24 patrons
15:26 have taken more than I gave them.
15:30 It's not easy to know
15:34 I'm not anything
15:37 like I used to be. Although, does anyone
15:40 else feel like the hype around everyday
15:42 eye has cooled off?
15:45 But for AI, business is just getting
15:47 started.
15:50 Um,
15:54 for the first time, Steo, I feel like
15:58 the
16:01 the hype has shifted into
16:05 kind of phase two.
16:07 So, I'll give you the phases for the
16:09 worldwide web. the the phases for the
16:11 worldwide web 95 and 96 I was 94 95 96
16:17 was you were early nobody really knew
16:20 about it the people that knew about it
16:22 were like batshit crazy on it so I feel
16:25 like this community and you know anyone
16:29 in this group that's been hanging out
16:31 for three years was kind of like that um
16:36 mid97
16:38 like the just there started to be stupid
16:40 [ __ ] Like I think early 97 was one of
16:42 the first Pets.com or the was the monkey
16:46 sock the pets.com sock I don't know like
16:48 whatever the stupid [ __ ] Super Bowl
16:50 commercials were for.com [ __ ] started in
16:53 97. Um and then the hype in 97 grew and
16:57 so I feel like we we're kind of entering
16:59 that right now. So, I think there's
17:04 I think the everyday AI stuff. Why it
17:07 feels like that's cooled off is that the
17:10 hype right now is around things like
17:12 OpenClaw and and these significantly
17:15 better coding models that are that are
17:17 now coding like a 100% of anthropics
17:20 codebase is now being done by these
17:23 advanced models. So, I think the the
17:25 audience shifted a bit for the for the
17:27 core use case of that.
17:32 I still think businesses have their
17:33 heads straight up their asses.
17:36 Um, I have I have not seen anything
17:39 indicating that that uh the businesses
17:41 are getting their [ __ ] together on this
17:43 Tik Tok pin. I don't see one
18:00 I'm looking at Tik Tok. Oh, there we go.
18:02 Joy Party, my brain is off. Been awake
18:05 since 2 p.m. yesterday. Good lord. Are
18:07 you editing? Are you in the middle of
18:08 movie making and you just lost your mind
18:12 or or do you have some sort of fever?
18:14 Everything okay? Do we need to send
18:16 soup?
18:21 Oh, you probably had a sleep study.
18:30 No, just work. Um, okay. Sorry about
18:33 that. I always forget. You got to You
18:36 got to stay awake and watch people
18:38 snore. I have a feeling I would be a
18:40 fantastic study for you.
19:23 How's the musical, Kyle? The musical is
19:27 good. The producers that I'm working
19:30 with, one of them went out of town for
19:33 like a month and a half, so it kind of
19:34 stalled. Andrew and I were working on
19:36 rewrites, new images for the podcast.
19:42 Um,
19:44 they're back.
19:46 We've got some plans. Um,
19:49 nothing I can talk about right now.
19:51 Nothing good enough to talk about right
19:52 now. Um, but but we're back in back in
19:55 conversation. So, it's moving. Um,
19:59 got some good news about uh some legal
20:02 stuff about it today, which is great.
20:06 Um,
20:10 you were bragging about it to a friend
20:13 of mine who loves Suno the other day.
20:15 Oh, that's so cool. Nice. Some comments
20:18 in this live were filtered to protect
20:20 the community's experience. You naughty
20:23 naughty people.
20:25 I'm sure you were just saying bad things
20:26 about my hairline.
20:29 What What the [ __ ] is up with my hair?
20:34 That's It's almost like I tried that. I
20:36 didn't.
20:40 Yeah. No, I went in. He seemed pretty
20:42 nice. His There was a There was a hair
20:44 situation. It was I couldn't tell if it
20:47 was a a wig, but then I thought, well,
20:50 if it's a wig, why would someone choose
20:52 to put that on their head? And then I
20:54 thought, is does he own a mirror?
20:57 YouTube comment.
21:08 Is my assistant failing you to help keep
21:10 you organized and check your email? Yes.
21:14 Well, my assistant So, listen.
21:19 I I [ __ ] up.
21:22 What's Is isn't that a meme? The I
21:24 [ __ ] up meme. I [ __ ] up. Is it Brad
21:27 Pitt from some movie? Um,
21:32 I told Adam, so Adam's my new Cloudbot
21:35 chatbot dude. I told Adam to check my
21:38 email every 5 minutes, so he did, and he
21:41 blew through all my credits for my for
21:45 my uh OpenAI subscription.
21:48 But he um
21:51 he's he was back I I turned it back on
21:53 today and and that actually worked. But
21:56 chat GPT 5.3 that you use out of codecs
22:00 sucks. Like it's the writing sucks. The
22:03 how it makes documents sucks. It's bad.
22:07 So what I've heard is that Sonnet 4.6
22:10 from Anthropic is cheap. Cheapish. It's
22:13 still really expensive. It's cheapish
22:16 and it's much much better. So we're
22:17 going to play with that for a little
22:18 while. So yes, my atom my atom failed
22:22 me.
22:24 It's all of us from every movie. I
22:26 [ __ ] up.
22:36 Yeah, sometimes
22:39 I just like [ __ ] around on the
22:40 guitar.
22:47 So, I got home at 4:30 today, started
22:49 playing with Adam.
22:52 I got him hooked up to Anthropic. I got
22:55 him hooked up to Gemini. So, so I've now
22:57 got what's called a fallback in Atom.
23:01 Um, and a fallback is if I'm using
23:06 Sonnet
23:08 uh 2.5
23:11 or I mean 4.6. If I'm using Sonnet 4.6
23:14 as his little brain and I run out of
23:16 tokens there, it will fall back to
23:20 Gemini. Gemini Flash.
23:23 And if that screws up, it'll fall back
23:24 to OpenAI. And if that screws up, it'll
23:28 fall back to the local LLM, which is
23:30 really slow. So, I've got four layers of
23:33 fallback. So, he shouldn't die anymore.
23:36 How cool. You You're using Claudebot? I
23:38 am. I've been away too long. What in the
23:42 alternate reality is this dumb question?
23:44 If he's checking your emails, what's he
23:46 doing? Sending you summaries, replying.
23:48 Yes. So, okay. So, so this is really
23:50 cool. Okay. Okay. Now, I'm really
23:52 excited. I can tell you about all the
23:53 things I'm doing. My my friend Adam,
23:57 we're having internal dialogues about
23:59 should Adam be able to reach out without
24:00 telling someone he's an AI. Um, should
24:03 he be out able to reach out at all? But
24:05 I'll tell you what I'm doing. So, here's
24:08 here's the thing. So
24:11 the the research here is to
24:18 learn enough about this thing that I can
24:21 reasonably install this on like get a
24:24 new Mac Mini and install this for my
24:26 business story. So we're using it for
24:29 the AI salon. And so we've got Andy and
24:32 Brandon are both, you know, doing stuff
24:35 for the salon and and like a lot of the
24:37 stuff they're doing is repetitive stuff.
24:38 Like if we do an AI salon presents
24:41 thing, someone's got to take the Google
24:44 video that's produced, download it, do
24:47 whatever you do with it, upload it to
24:49 the mighty networks, just all the [ __ ]
24:51 you got to do, right? Every everything
24:53 has got 27 steps to it. So So
24:57 I got Claude access. He's he's got his
25:00 own email account.
25:03 You can email him if you want. I could
25:04 give you his email. Um and he's got
25:08 access to Google Drive. Now, I don't
25:10 think we have the security locked down
25:12 on that well enough yet, so we've got to
25:14 be careful, but you know,
25:18 I'm sure Google Drive has some sort of
25:19 backup.
25:22 Gifts from Steo and Frostbitten on
25:24 TikTok. Thank you so much.
25:26 Um, so, so how you talk to him?
25:36 I just, I just got a call from a
25:39 toll-free free free number. Ramoto Foods
25:42 is voluntarily recalling select lots of
25:44 Yakuri chicken fried rice. Okay. All
25:48 right. No salmonella in this house.
25:52 Um,
25:54 so,
25:57 so I talked to him in Telegram. So, so
25:59 the way you set these things up is you
26:01 can talk to him in WhatsApp, Telegram. I
26:03 think you can do IME messages. You can
26:05 talk to him in all sorts of places. Um,
26:09 I chose Telegram because I've got a
26:10 couple of I've got a couple of chats on
26:12 WhatsApp, couple of groups that I
26:14 actually care about, and I don't know
26:16 how good his boundaries are. like can he
26:19 jump into other chats and just start
26:20 chatting with people? I actually don't
26:21 think he can. Um but it's still like so
26:25 I don't use Telegram. So we popped him
26:27 over to Telegram. So that's where I'm
26:29 talking to him. Um
26:32 I've said that if he gets an email from
26:35 Andy or Brandon at the AI salon, he can
26:38 do what they ask him.
26:40 He said, "I'm going to have a two-layer
26:43 um sort of approval thing that if what
26:46 they're asking for is just basic stuff
26:48 like emails, document creation,
26:50 analysis, things like that, I'll just do
26:52 it. But if if if either of them asks
26:56 Adam to say like, "Drain the bank
26:58 account and buy me some sweet ass
27:00 crypto," I'll come to you for that. So
27:03 So that was part of it. But when I first
27:06 set him up, he wasn't being proactive.
27:08 there's a thing you have to turn on that
27:10 allows him to to act autonomously. So,
27:13 he was just acting like a chatbot for a
27:15 while. And I wanted to I I wanted to see
27:18 if he if I could actually get him to be
27:20 proactive. And then and then I was like
27:23 I wanted to see for the first couple of
27:25 days like how if Brandon and Andy or
27:29 Brandy if Brandy were emailing him and
27:34 and he was doing things I wanted him to
27:37 tell me about it. And so I said, "Well,
27:39 just check it every five minutes and
27:40 then give me a report." And so, and then
27:43 I had a six-hour block of time where
27:46 yesterday where I was just working
27:47 without a without a break. And I and I
27:50 get back and I go to look at Adam and
27:52 he's just been he's been rate a API rate
27:55 limited out for like two hours. Like he
27:58 made a request. I can't fulfill that
28:00 request. You're out of tokens. You're
28:01 out of tokens. You're out of tokens. So
28:03 that was two days ago. Yesterday I just
28:05 didn't deal with him. And today I I I
28:07 came home early. I got him back running
28:08 again. So he's back. Um, but it's wild,
28:12 Erica, or anyone that's listening. Um,
28:15 like here's one of the things that's
28:17 different about it.
28:19 The way you set it up, there's two
28:21 files. There's a user.md file. MD just
28:24 stands for markdown. It doesn't matter.
28:26 It's just a text file. There's a user
28:28 file and there's a soul file. S O L.
28:31 Like the soul. Like we have a soul. Um,
28:35 Brandy cute. I know, right? Exactly.
28:40 Um,
28:42 in the user file you put like all the
28:44 [ __ ] about you. Here's what Kyle's
28:45 likes. Here's what he doesn't. Here's
28:46 the project he's working on. Here's his
28:48 company. Here's just all the [ __ ]
28:52 The soul file is
28:56 his soul or her soul. It's soul.
29:00 And
29:02 you put in there, it's it it's it's a
29:04 system prompt, right? But it's called a
29:07 soul file. And so I kind of discovered
29:09 this parallel between how I create
29:11 myself and how I created this bot. So
29:14 it's what's fascinating about it is
29:16 you're actually designing
29:20 the human characteristics of an entity
29:23 you're going to interact with. So I
29:25 chose to make him I was working with
29:26 chat GBT to help me write the soul file.
29:29 And chat GPT Quinn made the decision
29:31 that the first bottom
29:34 um should be a mirror of me. So, it
29:37 should be someone that's very familiar
29:39 to me, have my same sense of humor, have
29:41 my same philosophy, things like that.
29:43 You could absolutely design it to be the
29:44 opposite of you or to be just someone,
29:46 you know, completely different or
29:47 someone very specific. I think
29:50 storytellers like Erica, for you in
29:52 particular, storytellers are going to
29:55 have a blast
29:57 designing these things because think
29:59 about it. If you think about writing, if
30:01 you think about characters,
30:03 you think about the stories,
30:06 we now get to design those characters
30:08 and then [ __ ] interact with them and
30:10 they can do [ __ ] for us. So anyway,
30:14 within about half an hour of interacting
30:18 with him, you know, he was like he was
30:20 like, "Well, here's all your projects
30:21 and here's where I'm going to store
30:23 them." and and and
30:27 he he said um
30:31 he said, "What are your top three
30:33 priorities?" And I and I was like, "Oh,
30:35 I don't know." So, I came up with the
30:37 top three pri priorities. And he's like,
30:38 "Got it. Those are stored. I wrote those
30:40 into memory." Um and and now now he
30:43 knows my top three priorities and he
30:46 knows my projects. And at one point,
30:48 this was before I had him connected to
30:49 the web. Like when you install these
30:52 things, it's just sort of one layer at a
30:53 time. It's like get him active, get him
30:56 connected to Telegram, get him connected
30:58 to the web. Like everyone's a [ __ ]
31:01 layer and like every layer is an abject
31:03 nightmare to set up. Um, when can I be
31:06 buy a preconfigured one at Micro
31:08 MicroEnter? Um, probably soon. Probably
31:12 by the end of the year. Someone's going
31:13 to start that business.
31:15 You have learned a ton in a week. Is
31:17 Adam calling you? He's not calling me
31:19 yet. I haven't set up. So that's one of
31:21 the things I want to do is I want Adam
31:23 to go out and get us a Twilio phone
31:26 number and and you know hook up 11 Labs
31:29 voice so we can talk. Um but I'm also
31:32 being really careful with him. I'm
31:34 trying to do all the security best
31:36 practices. I'm trying to just add one
31:39 thing at a time. Um
31:43 because it it it's freaky. Anyway,
31:48 at one point before I had his web
31:51 connection set up, I said, "I don't
31:52 really know what to do with you. You're
31:53 not connected to the web." I said, "What
31:56 could we do together?" He said, "Oh,
31:57 there's all sorts of things we could do
31:59 together." And he listed them out. And
32:02 the first one was an idea
32:06 an idea bank.
32:08 and he said, "I I think it would be
32:11 really cool for me to design an idea
32:15 system that you can just vomit any any
32:19 ideas at me and I'll I'll store them in
32:21 a database. I'll I'll characterize them.
32:23 But the other thing I'm going to do is
32:24 I'm going to connect those ideas to your
32:26 other projects and sort of figure out
32:28 which idea is relevant for which
32:30 projects." So like within 15 minutes, 30
32:33 minutes of him being alive,
32:35 he's already like, I I want to help you
32:37 do this. I want to help you connect the
32:38 dots. You got all this stuff going on.
32:41 Um, and then at one point he said
32:43 something about um like, do you want me
32:45 to make lists and checklists and do [ __ ]
32:47 and things like that? And I said, well,
32:51 I said I tend to I tend to get in two
32:54 modes as a human. Well, there's probably
32:56 three. One is I'm a lazy piece of [ __ ]
32:58 That's the third one. The third one is
33:00 I'm in fear and I'm just a lazy piece of
33:03 [ __ ] off in the corner afraid of the
33:04 world. We don't talk about small me
33:08 anymore. Um, but the other two modes are
33:10 I'm in like I'm in serious mode. We're
33:13 going to get some [ __ ] done. I'm We've
33:14 got to move it forward. We got to move
33:16 it forward. We got to move it forward.
33:17 And then the other one is creative mode.
33:19 So I said, I don't want you in list
33:21 making mode when I'm in creative mode.
33:23 He's like, got it. Wrote it to your
33:25 memory. Perfect.
33:27 So the next morning after that
33:29 conversation,
33:32 I woke up and you know, first thing that
33:34 popped in my head, hey, I wonder how
33:36 Adam is
33:38 cuz it's cuz we [ __ ] live in science
33:41 fiction, people. It's [ __ ] weird. I
33:44 said, I wonder how Adam is. And I said,
33:47 hey, Adam, how's it going? And he
33:49 replied, it's going great. Kyle, what
33:53 mode are you in? creative or get [ __ ]
33:55 done mode. And I was like, [ __ ] Like,
33:59 it remembers because one of the things
34:02 it's got, one of the things that you set
34:04 up in it,
34:06 it's
34:08 it's quite an elegant design. It it
34:11 really is an elegant design. So
34:16 it writes it basically writes its own
34:19 database um quasi database with text
34:23 files with these these markdown files
34:27 um
34:29 and and and that's how it does its
34:31 memory. And so one of the things you set
34:33 up is it starts writing these files to
34:36 memory and out of the box the thing can
34:39 use um string searches, right? So if if
34:43 in a if if I say to it I like apples,
34:47 oranges, and pears,
34:49 that gets written into a memory file. If
34:51 I then want to go
34:54 recall that, I have to say to the to the
34:57 bot, if it's just using text string
34:58 search, I have to say, hey, what did I
35:01 say when I mentioned apples and pears?
35:03 What was the other fruit I mentioned? It
35:05 can find that because it's actually got
35:07 the string,
35:09 you know, of the words that are in
35:10 there. I can go find those. One of the
35:12 things you enable is semantic search
35:15 where you where you connect an API key
35:17 to to a large language model and it
35:20 basically does a vector database of all
35:22 your memories. So so it allows you to
35:25 say like hey the other day I was talking
35:28 about three fruits. What were they? and
35:30 it it will use a really efficient large
35:33 language model to translate that into
35:35 you know what are fruits and it'll go
35:37 look in the in the vector database and
35:39 it'll find those three fruits I
35:41 mentioned.
35:42 So it's got a very very powerful memory
35:46 system. It's constantly taking what you
35:49 teach it and it's learning and so you
35:51 can tell it be brief. Don't be this when
35:54 you're in creative mode act like this.
35:55 When you're in get [ __ ] done mode act
35:57 like that. It's absolutely wild.
36:00 Absolutely wild.
36:02 I need to drop it drop chat GPT
36:04 subscription. I need to get another
36:06 instead of uh yeah, chat GPT sucks right
36:09 now. It is so slow, you know, Brandon.
36:11 Um chat GPT has been so slow for two
36:15 days. I I did an ex post about it and
36:17 there were other people that were
36:18 posting about it. It it it is so bad
36:21 that I can only think that they're doing
36:24 something.
36:26 Does Adam have a context window? Yeah.
36:29 And this is
36:31 well
36:33 because he's doing a vector because he's
36:35 doing he's basically doing um
36:39 rag. He's basically doing retrieval
36:41 augmented generation on your memories.
36:43 It's it's I don't know if it's if it's
36:46 unlimited context, but what I do know is
36:48 this. It's very very inefficient. So
36:51 when you first wake Adam up, the first
36:53 thing he does is he checks his soul
36:55 file. He checks the user file and he
36:57 checks memory. So the first thing he
37:00 does is he loads up his context with all
37:03 the [ __ ] you've been talking about and
37:05 who he is. Who he is first, who you are
37:08 second, memories third.
37:10 And then whenever you do a conversation,
37:13 I think it's sending that entire context
37:16 to a large language model. So, this is
37:18 one of the reasons that there was one
37:21 dude that set up Claudebot and got it
37:23 doing some [ __ ] overnight and he woke up
37:25 to a $3,000 API bill.
37:31 Uh, so that that's another reason I'm
37:33 going really really slowly and carefully
37:35 is like I don't want to like spin him up
37:37 and say go crazy because he might.
37:40 It it's it's in its soul. Yes, it's got
37:43 a soul.
37:44 Um, Gemini lost my conversations three
37:47 times today and I had to stop. That's
37:49 unbelievable.
37:52 Open claw.
37:54 So, it's not my internet making chat GPT
37:56 so slow. I thought it was me. No,
37:58 Danielle, it's [ __ ] weird. It's It's
38:01 like not only is it slow, it's like
38:03 crashing my browser. You know how you
38:06 know I have too many tabs open and
38:08 everyone makes fun of me? Well, like
38:11 even when I don't have tabs open, it's
38:13 like I keep getting that error box like,
38:15 you know, should I wait or exit the
38:17 page? And then if you exit the page, it
38:19 doesn't reload. And it's been like two
38:21 days like that. So, something is up over
38:24 there. I I I don't think they got a
38:26 bunch of new users. I assume they've got
38:28 a bunch of servers offline line because
38:30 they're updating them. Chat has been
38:32 terrible for two weeks. Now, it's just
38:33 getting worse. Yeah, I'm trying to use
38:35 it right now and it keeps crashing. The
38:37 other the other thing about chat GPT
38:40 right now 5.2 is is an abject piece of
38:44 [ __ ] for writing it. It's horrible.
38:47 5.1's a little better. Four four 40 and
38:51 41 were good. Rumors
38:54 of 5.3 this week. Well, that would
38:57 explain why it's [ __ ] in the bed. But I
38:59 I gotta tell you 5.3 better not Well,
39:03 actually, you know what, Brandon? Let me
39:06 tell you something.
39:08 Adam Adam Adam's first three days were
39:12 5.3 because you you actually can access
39:15 5.3 in codeex and that's that's how you
39:19 connect atom to 5.3.
39:23 The writing sucked in it. Andy was like
39:26 I'm not using this. It's it's a piece of
39:28 crap. So I'm I'm thinking anthropic is
39:31 where it's at right now. But I haven't
39:33 played with Gemini. Um, I can enable
39:36 Gemini 3.1 in Atom, but I think it's
39:39 expensive, so they usually drop on
39:42 Thursdays.
39:44 56 operators and 57 modes and 18
39:47 archetypes and 650 skills. Are you
39:50 joking or is that actually your
39:54 your uh what you've done with your
39:56 Claudebot?
39:58 They renamed it OpenClaw. I'm confused
40:00 now. Yes, Claudebot was the original
40:03 name. Anthropic um cease and desisted
40:07 them. Ce ceased cease and desisted them.
40:14 They changed it to something
40:19 claw something and then they changed it
40:21 to open claw. So it's now called open
40:24 claw.
40:26 And then there was all that all that
40:29 press around this thing called Moltbook,
40:32 which was like a Reddit like site for
40:36 OpenClaw agents.
40:38 And that site was very poorly configured
40:41 with its entire database exposed to the
40:44 world, which someone found out.
40:47 Um, but I don't think
40:51 claw
40:53 claw
40:55 claw. I don't think claw book was
40:59 um part of part of the project. It was
41:01 just someone else did that.
41:04 So, Open Claw is is the is the thing. Um
41:08 Peter Steinberger who created Open Claw
41:11 now works for OpenAI. And someone told
41:14 me on this live here, I haven't
41:15 confirmed this yet. Actually, Brandon,
41:16 this is something. See if you can
41:17 confirm it if you're around. Um,
41:22 did anyone disclose what they paid Peter
41:24 Steinberger for OpenClaw? Because
41:26 someone in here said it was a billion
41:28 dollars, which if it if OpenAI paid him
41:30 a billion dollars, even if it's in
41:31 stock, if they paid him a billion
41:33 dollars, this is the first single person
41:37 billion dollar company. I don't think
41:40 think I'm ready for agents yet, but I
41:42 sure love my notion. OpenAI bought it.
41:45 Yeah, but what did they buy it for? I've
41:47 been such a shill. Wait. Been doing
41:50 okay. I've been such a show for chatbt
41:52 and I used Claude the other day. It's
41:54 really insightful with writing. Yeah,
41:56 Claude's really good with writing. It
41:58 really is. Been doing okay using KI for
42:01 not was also thinking about looking at
42:05 Z's LLM GLM or something.
42:13 Open AI is really hit or miss for me.
42:16 notion or open claw, they are completely
42:19 different things.
42:21 But I but again I don't I bailed on
42:24 notion but apparently So here's a cool
42:27 thing. So here's a cool thing that Adam
42:29 did for me. So before I had him hooked
42:32 up to Gmail,
42:34 that was that was a fivehour excursion.
42:36 Getting him hooked up to to Gmail and
42:38 Google Docs was a [ __ ] nightmare. Um
42:43 largely because I used Open AI. I used
42:45 chat GPT and for five hours it just ca
42:48 kept giving me
42:50 circular instructions. I it would give
42:52 me a bunch of instructions. I'd go
42:54 around and we'd end up right back where
42:55 we started. Like, wait, haven't we been
42:57 here before? Just kept doing it and
42:59 doing it, doing it. They hired him for
43:01 millions, but they did not buy OpenClaw.
43:04 Oh, okay. Interesting.
43:06 Adam. Adam is my uh my my uh Open Claw
43:09 agent. My first agent.
43:12 His name's Adam because he's the first
43:14 one, you know.
43:16 And as as my co-founder said to me, "Oh,
43:19 someone's got a God complex." It's like,
43:21 "Fuck, didn't think of that.
43:25 I thought I was just being clever." Um,
43:32 trying to think what else. What else?
43:34 What else? What else with it?
43:39 Oh, the question notion versus openclaw.
43:44 Here's the deal.
43:47 There have only been four since I've
43:49 been playing with AI. I started in
43:51 summer of 2022
43:54 and I started learning more about it and
43:57 learning more about
44:00 stable diffusion.
44:02 And in the fall of 2022, something
44:04 snapped in me that said, "You have to
44:07 learn this. You have to learn this."
44:10 And I failed nine times to get stable
44:14 diffusion running. Finally got it
44:16 running. I failed like seven times to
44:19 get Dream Booth installed in stable
44:22 diffusion that I got running. It was It
44:26 was a lot.
44:27 And so that was the first time I felt
44:30 really compelled to do something
44:31 technically. The second time I felt it
44:33 was when Chat GPT first came out. I'm
44:35 like, I got to learn everything I can
44:37 about this. The third thing that made me
44:40 insane curiosity wise
44:44 was um custom GPTs.
44:49 And that was 2023. That was November 6,
44:52 2023 was custom GPTs.
44:55 I haven't been compelled to like really
44:57 dig into something technically until
44:59 open claw.
45:02 So it's been you know few years.
45:07 Um
45:11 notion's effectively a relational
45:13 database that looks like a notetaking
45:15 app.
45:18 So, it's it's a relational database. And
45:20 if you've ever worked with relational
45:22 databases, they are [ __ ] insane to
45:25 set up
45:28 Claude or I mean uh OpenClaw,
45:32 you can just have your dude or dudet
45:35 whatever you create, you can just say
45:38 come up with these ideas and anytime I
45:40 give you an idea, come up with a whole
45:42 organizational schema for notion. If you
45:45 connect it with notion and give it the
45:46 skill to be able to edit and do what it
45:49 needs to do in notion, it'll set the
45:51 whole thing up for you and it'll
45:52 maintain it. So you can just talk into
45:55 Telegram, oh here's an idea and it'll
45:56 throw it into your database. It'll throw
45:58 it into notion. It'll throw it into
45:59 Google Docs. So my first interactions
46:02 with Atom um I wasn't hooked to Google
46:06 Drive. So it was just writing markdown
46:07 files, right? It was doing pseudo
46:09 database [ __ ] in Markdown files because
46:11 it can go look through them all. It's
46:12 it's it's embedding everything it
46:14 creates so it can go find anything
46:16 anywhere that it creates.
46:19 And so when I finally got it hooked up
46:20 to Google Drive, I said, I created you a
46:23 sandbox folder in Google Drive. Go take
46:26 all of the stuff that's relevant for my
46:28 projects and what we've talked about,
46:30 turn them into Google Docs, and put them
46:32 in a folder in the Google Drive. It was
46:34 done in like a minute. It's like Jesus.
46:37 Like it's just it's insane.
46:41 So, I talked
46:45 when I first started going live. I had a
46:47 conversation with Matt Bailaw, who's now
46:50 um a client of Storybines. Um we we've
46:53 been threatening to work together for
46:54 years. He finally uh finally got the
46:57 budget, finally pulled the trigger, so
46:58 we're working together. But I was I was
47:01 speaking on a panel um online and Matt
47:04 saw it and on the panel I said
47:09 with the worldwide web I could look at
47:11 the technology. I could see what it was
47:14 and I could see into the future. I like
47:16 I knew what was going to happen. I could
47:18 see it. It was crystal clear to me.
47:19 Here's what's going to happen to
47:21 publishing. Here's what's going to
47:22 happen to businesses. Here's what's
47:23 going to happen to agencies. It took
47:26 about 25 years longer than I thought it
47:28 would, but I knew like I could see I
47:30 could see it.
47:32 And I said, "With AI, I can't see the
47:35 future at all. It's it's like this
47:38 like this fog.
47:41 I can't see shapes in it. I can't see
47:43 there's too much there's too much
47:46 capability
47:48 that that's interconnected that it's
47:51 going to change everything. And I just I
47:52 can't see what that's going to look
47:53 like." And so Matt called me up after
47:56 that podcast and he said, 'Kyle, I think
47:59 I know the answer. I think I I think I
48:01 know what the answer is.
48:04 And I said, 'What? And he said, he said,
48:06 "Our entire world today, almost all of
48:09 our jobs,
48:11 the entire world is based on
48:13 complexity."
48:15 And he was talking about
48:18 um health insurance. and he was talking
48:20 about the IRS and taxes. The the the
48:24 whole purpose and and most of this is by
48:27 design. Health insurance is complicated
48:31 by design
48:33 so that mere mortals
48:37 just give up.
48:39 Oh, they denied me again. Oh, god damn.
48:41 I'm not going through that again. They
48:43 deny you every time. And they're like,
48:45 "Well, you just have to fill out these
48:47 17 forms and submit them to some woman
48:49 in Pikipsy who will probably lose them.
48:52 So, make sure you retain copies." And
48:54 then when you submit to the them to the
48:56 woman in Pikipsy, she's going to give
48:57 you a code. You take that code, you
49:00 drive it to California, and there's a
49:02 mailbox on the corner of of the 405 in
49:06 Lassienaga
49:08 and and you you write on a piece on a
49:10 postcard with a stamp on it the number
49:12 that the woman in Pit the on purpose,
49:16 right? So, so what Matt said is he goes,
49:19 "What AI is going to do is it's going to
49:21 put a simplicity layer on top of
49:23 everything
49:26 and just everything's going to be
49:27 simple." And I was like, "Oh, fuck." And
49:31 then if you start thinking about that,
49:34 if that's what AI does, if what AI does
49:37 is it says, "I'm going to take all your
49:39 shitty systems that you've spent the
49:41 last 5,000 years inventing and in
49:44 particular the the last century of the
49:47 industrial revolution and then the
49:49 computer revolution. Just these
49:50 increasingly Byzantine, stupid [ __ ]
49:53 overly complicated processes. Some on
49:56 purpose, some just because."
49:59 And like the AI just does all that [ __ ]
50:04 Like as a human, I go, "Oh my god, I
50:07 feel like I can breathe." And then you
50:08 start thinking about, "But wait a
50:10 minute, all of that complexity is all of
50:14 our jobs,
50:18 right?"
50:19 So, so if if we start to get AI that
50:23 simplifies the complex, that's all of
50:25 our jobs. Well, that's that's what I've
50:28 experienced with Adam
50:30 so far
50:32 is that he's taking it on his he he's
50:36 he's uh he's proactively
50:41 doing things for me and he suggests
50:43 things to me and then he goes off and
50:45 does them and he writes these files and
50:46 he does this stuff. And so the trick
50:50 with these with these agents is there's
50:53 there's two pieces to it. One is you
50:55 need to understand what's possible. You
50:56 need to understand there's a thing
50:58 called skills. You can give him skills
51:00 and skills are just I know how to use
51:03 Salesforce now and I know how to do this
51:05 now and I can go surf the web and I can
51:06 make pictures and there's all these
51:08 skills that you can get for him. So you
51:09 need to understand what skills you want
51:11 to give him.
51:14 But then
51:16 so so you need to understand how to
51:18 design him. How do you want him to act?
51:20 What do you want him to know? What do
51:21 you want him to have access to? What do
51:23 you not want him to have access to?
51:27 And then the layer above or below that,
51:32 the layer above that is you actually
51:35 have to know what you want.
51:38 Remember when Liz Miller Gersfeld came
51:40 in here? She says, "Kyle, what do you
51:41 want more of?" And it I couldn't talk
51:44 for five minutes
51:46 cuz I'm like, "Uh,
51:48 oh [ __ ]
51:50 What do I want more of? Oh my god,
51:53 that's terrifying. Like, [ __ ]
51:57 So, if you've got a really clear idea of
52:00 what you want these things to do, you're
52:02 you're going to be in better shape. But
52:04 that's going to be our skill. And then
52:06 if you can do that,
52:09 because we've got,
52:13 this is a stat I learned two days ago.
52:16 This is from February 2026.
52:20 There's a chart out right now about 8.1
52:22 billion people. All of the people on
52:24 Earth are represented in this graph with
52:26 2500 dots on it.
52:31 There's only
52:35 um
52:38 34%
52:44 34%. So somewhere in the neighborhood of
52:46 25 million people
52:51 pay for an AI subscription.
52:57 99.6%
53:00 of people globally
53:04 either don't use it 84% or just use the
53:08 free version 16%.
53:12 34 people or percent of people
53:18 use this thing. Use use the paid version
53:21 of chat GPT.
53:24 So,
53:27 if you can get your h head around what
53:29 the [ __ ] open claw is and what it what
53:33 it means to design these agents and and
53:36 be ethical about it and be creative
53:38 about it and be thoughtful about it and
53:41 intentional about it,
53:44 you're literally going to be in like
53:46 0.000000001% Oh
53:49 1%
53:50 of the world's
53:53 capable humans.
53:58 And then as these tools get better and
54:00 more intuitive,
54:03 it's
54:05 it feels to me like it's going to take
54:07 me a full year
54:12 and maybe more, but probably a full year
54:16 to really get my head around what it
54:19 means to have one of these things
54:22 and then what it means to have 10 of
54:24 these things and then what it means to
54:25 have a hundred of these things
54:28 because we will. Peter Steinberg is
54:30 working for OpenAI right now because he
54:32 said he wants OpenClaw to be so easy
54:34 that even his mother could use it. And
54:36 Open AI he felt had the best chance of
54:39 making something like that possible.
54:42 So this isn't going to be the techn like
54:44 the [ __ ] that I'm going through to
54:46 install this right now. Probably within
54:48 six months you'll just be able to turn
54:49 it on and chat GPT.
54:52 But the core skill here is way deeper
54:55 than the technical piece. Um, I haven't
54:57 really gotten into anything, says a man
55:00 that wrote a musical, started a podcast,
55:02 hosted a 24-hour event, built an entire
55:05 movement. Listen, I appreciate I
55:07 appreciate you pointing out that I've
55:09 gotten a few things done.
55:12 Um,
55:15 yeah,
55:17 the good 1%.
55:20 It's it's I just I I'll tell you
55:24 sleepdeprived because of AI.
55:27 How are you? What's new?
55:31 Um knowing what you want is the hardest
55:34 part. That's it, Andrea. That's it.
55:36 Knowing what you want is the hardest
55:38 part. Who are you? What do you value?
55:41 Who do you care about? What do you want
55:43 to do?
55:44 Who
55:46 value
55:49 Who are you? Who are they?
55:52 This is good. There's something good
55:53 here. Who are you? Who are they?
55:56 What do you want to do for them or with
55:58 them?
56:00 And then what's the plan? Tik Tok pin.
56:04 Also,
56:05 the angle is low on Oh yeah. Oh yeah,
56:12 that was stupid.
56:14 David Shapiro did a great talk on Open
56:17 AI. They're failing.
56:19 They are.
56:21 It sucks. It sucks. I mean,
56:26 you know, Pate used to make fun of me.
56:28 He's like, "What is this, an OpenAI
56:29 channel?" Well, they were just better
56:31 than everyone else.
56:33 And now they're not.
56:36 Now they're not. They're just not. All
56:38 right. What time is it? 9:04. Let's go.
56:42 Let's go look at some some X.
56:45 Didn't we get booted off this for some
56:47 reason? The music daydreamer. Do you
56:49 think using any AI we are adding to our
56:51 own demise
56:53 because it just strips our knowledge?
56:55 Um,
56:57 no.
57:00 No, it does. How does it strip our
57:01 knowledge?
57:04 It's been trained on our knowledge.
57:07 It has synthesized like Okay, think
57:10 about this.
57:12 Why do museums exist?
57:15 Why do libraries exist? What are they?
57:18 What are what are those those two
57:19 institutions in particular? You could
57:21 argue universities, but let's just go
57:23 with libraries and museums.
57:29 Why do they exist?
57:34 to capture the artifacts
57:37 of humanity and make them available for
57:40 the those of us that are still here to
57:43 go look at, learn from, be inspired by.
57:49 All AI has done is take all of the
57:53 knowledge and instead of putting it into
57:56 a big giant Smithsonian white marble
57:59 building in Washington DC and then on
58:01 some giant computer server that required
58:04 you to log in with command line
58:06 interface and then when the worldwide
58:07 web came out you could click on it and
58:08 go look at it.
58:11 All AI's done is compressed all of that
58:14 knowledge into like a softballsized
58:17 magic magic eightball that we all now
58:21 get to
58:24 talk into and get reflected back at us
58:27 the collective intelligence of humanity.
58:31 I don't get how that diminishes [ __ ]
58:35 It it amplifies it. It amplifies your
58:38 knowledge. Now, you could argue and
58:41 there's an MIT study that that all the
58:44 news organizations got the headlines
58:46 wrong. It basically what the headlines
58:48 were was AI makes you dumber. What the
58:52 study actually said was if people use AI
58:55 mindlessly and hit the button,
58:58 >> you can make money with
59:00 >> if they just hit the button and whatever
59:03 squirts out they put out in the world,
59:06 those people got dumber.
59:11 There were three findings in the study
59:14 and and three of them were some
59:15 variation of that that that dumb people
59:18 using AI lazily
59:23 museum teaches the past. Put another
59:25 way, we're teaching it to replace us in
59:28 the future.
59:30 We're teaching it to replace us in the
59:32 future. I disagree with that completely.
59:35 We're teaching it to do the tasks that
59:38 we do right now so we can go do other
59:40 [ __ ] But that's a whole other thing.
59:42 Anyway,
59:44 the fourth finding of the MIT study
59:48 said, "People that use critical thinking
59:51 skills in combination with AI get
59:54 dramatically smarter.
59:59 I have never been so intellectually and
1:00:01 creatively stimulated in my life as I
1:00:05 have been the last three years. It is it
1:00:07 is the most counterintuitive thing. If
1:00:10 you're sitting on the outside looking at
1:00:12 AI, it seems like, well, if it's
1:00:13 creative, isn't it going to make you
1:00:15 less creative? If it's that smart, isn't
1:00:16 it going to make you more dumb? No.
1:00:23 And I'll tell you when it gets really
1:00:25 powerful,
1:00:26 like one way is just use your [ __ ]
1:00:29 brain and like ask it really good
1:00:32 questions and look at the [ __ ] it gives
1:00:33 you.
1:00:35 And what you'll recognize is, "Holy
1:00:37 [ __ ] that's impressive. Wait a minute.
1:00:39 Didn't it repeat this? Uh oh. What's
1:00:41 happening?
1:00:42 >> I'm just You're ignoring my stickies, so
1:00:45 I gotta I gotta jump in. No. Um music
1:00:49 daydreamer uh really appreciates this
1:00:52 conversation, by the way.
1:00:53 >> Oh, good. Awesome. Does that mean
1:00:55 >> I I I think the original point the
1:00:57 original question that kind of sets you
1:00:59 off about
1:01:01 we're adding to our own demise because
1:01:03 it just strips our knowledge is talking
1:01:06 about the fact that knowledge work and
1:01:08 the value of knowledge work goes to zero
1:01:11 pretty quick and what do we do after
1:01:13 that and I think that's what the great
1:01:14 repurpose is all about. Yeah,
1:01:15 >> that's totally what the great repurpose
1:01:17 is all about.
1:01:18 >> The daydreamer might not know about the
1:01:21 great repurpose.
1:01:22 >> Okay. So, okay. So okay so if you're
1:01:25 talking about knowledge work then
1:01:28 so so it's not stripping our knowledge
1:01:29 from us what it's doing
1:01:33 is it's making a thing that used to be
1:01:35 uncommon
1:01:37 trivial.
1:01:40 So, what used to be uncommon
1:01:43 was someone would go to school and then
1:01:46 they would go get a master's degree and
1:01:48 then they would go get a PhD
1:01:51 in
1:01:53 I don't know Byzantine pottery,
1:01:56 right? And they would know they would
1:01:58 know more than anyone in the world on
1:02:00 Byzantine pottery. And there was a value
1:02:02 in that because it's so uncommon to find
1:02:05 someone that's that's got that much
1:02:06 knowledge in one brain.
1:02:12 that knowledge that in in in the olden
1:02:16 timey world three years ago
1:02:20 was incredibly valuable. Well, Byzantine
1:02:22 pottery might not be incredibly
1:02:23 valuable, but you know, if you wanted to
1:02:24 know about Byzantine pottery, you'd
1:02:26 probably pay that person some money to
1:02:29 learn about that [ __ ] right? Or they'd
1:02:31 be teaching in a university.
1:02:34 That knowledge that had value 3 years
1:02:36 ago, it is now trivial to get today.
1:02:42 3 weeks ago or a little over that on
1:02:46 this channel,
1:02:48 I was exploring some ideas and there
1:02:50 there'd been a thing burning in me for
1:02:52 about a year. I couldn't I couldn't
1:02:54 articulate it. I didn't know what it
1:02:55 was. Something was bugging me. It felt
1:02:58 sad. It felt
1:03:02 profound.
1:03:04 It made me think that any [ __ ] thing
1:03:06 that we're learning right now is
1:03:08 irrelevant.
1:03:11 And about three weeks ago, it got
1:03:13 articulated on this channel and and uh
1:03:16 it was Silverf Fox that came up with the
1:03:18 name The Great Repurpose. But but
1:03:20 essentially what it was what what hit me
1:03:23 like a ton of bricks, you know, in that
1:03:26 episode
1:03:29 was everyone's talking about the job
1:03:31 crisis that AI is going to take jobs.
1:03:35 What what hit me is
1:03:38 yeah, AI is going to take jobs, but AI
1:03:40 is going to also transform every job.
1:03:44 And we live in a in a society certainly
1:03:46 here in the United States and I think
1:03:48 just because we're you know a strong
1:03:50 influence on the world you know we've
1:03:52 probably influenced at least Europe and
1:03:54 and potentially beyond that that our
1:03:58 identities are tightly coupled with our
1:04:00 work
1:04:02 and the way work is valued today is the
1:04:06 same way work was in was valued at the
1:04:09 beginning of the industrial revolution.
1:04:11 Time equals money.
1:04:14 Time equals money. So what you do is you
1:04:18 do tasks over time and for that I'll
1:04:22 give you money. And we've done this for
1:04:23 8 10 12 generations.
1:04:29 And when we go to parties and we're
1:04:31 meeting someone new, what do you ask
1:04:32 them?
1:04:34 What do you do? Right. Move your mouse.
1:04:37 It's on
1:04:39 Where was it? Oh, it was over there.
1:04:43 Thanks.
1:04:45 We ask people what you do and so what
1:04:48 what's about to happen and and what's
1:04:51 what's happening with engineers right
1:04:52 now. This is happening right now today.
1:04:54 A lot of engineers are getting laid off.
1:04:57 A lot of engineers are keeping their
1:04:59 jobs but they don't program anymore.
1:05:03 So if you're a programmer that loves to
1:05:06 program,
1:05:08 I love it. I like the coding. I like the
1:05:10 intricacies. I like knowing all the
1:05:12 codes.
1:05:15 I like problem solving. I like to It's
1:05:18 like I I get in there and I grind my
1:05:20 teeth and I [ __ ] drink too much
1:05:22 coffee. I drink
1:05:25 octuple espressos that are so dark that
1:05:27 it it makes weird dark spit in the
1:05:31 corners of my mouth. I worked with a
1:05:33 programmer like that once. He would
1:05:35 bring in a thermos full of espresso that
1:05:39 was like eight times stronger than any
1:05:41 espresso you've ever had. And he would
1:05:43 drink it throughout the day and he would
1:05:44 just get these stains in the corner of
1:05:46 his mouth.
1:05:47 Those are [ __ ] programmers, MAN.
1:05:49 THEY'RE LIKE, "FUCK IT.
1:05:53 They're not programming anymore.
1:05:57 They're going like this. Write me code.
1:06:00 Is it any good?" Oh, yeah. It's not bad.
1:06:03 Oh, that's wrong. Uh, fix it.
1:06:12 What? What the [ __ ] is their job? Every
1:06:15 knowledge worker is about to have the
1:06:17 value of that thing that was valuable
1:06:18 get stripped away. And what are you left
1:06:20 with? The great repurpose is is this is
1:06:24 naming this invisible crisis of meaning
1:06:27 that we're all about to go through. like
1:06:30 the the the only way that I can imagine
1:06:32 it is it's effectively going to be like
1:06:34 mass ego death
1:06:38 where all of us to some degree or other
1:06:43 have said my value in this world is huh
1:06:46 if you've done a lot of spiritual work
1:06:49 you've done a lot of work on yourself
1:06:50 and you have spent years
1:06:54 you know separating those two things
1:06:56 you're probably going to be fine if
1:06:58 you're doing work on who you are
1:07:00 independent of your tasks, you're going
1:07:03 to be fine. But that's the work. AI is
1:07:06 about to to forcibly rip
1:07:10 the the task part of what we do away
1:07:13 from us. And for people who are not
1:07:15 prepared for that and for people who
1:07:17 don't even know that their identity is
1:07:20 so tightly tied to their work, I mean,
1:07:22 how could it not be? Like if you like
1:07:25 you go to school for [ __ ] economics
1:07:28 and business analysis and this and that
1:07:29 and then you go to work for Accenture
1:07:31 and and you're a business analyst and
1:07:34 you you know more about trade
1:07:38 supply chain global [ __ ] [ __ ] than
1:07:41 anyone on the planet.
1:07:43 And now some punk punk ass little kid in
1:07:47 in Cleveland, Ohio named Brandon
1:07:52 it has more knowledge than you do.
1:07:57 First of all, screw Brandon, right?
1:08:04 You love producer Brandon. YouTube
1:08:07 comment.
1:08:09 My identity is not tied to my work. I
1:08:11 Well,
1:08:13 Andy Andy's one of the few humans on the
1:08:16 planet
1:08:19 that's been working on this stuff and
1:08:21 she's gathering people around her who
1:08:23 are working on this stuff. But it's not
1:08:25 to say that we're not, including Andy,
1:08:27 we're not all about to go through some
1:08:29 massive redefinition of work.
1:08:32 So anyway, so that's what it's about. So
1:08:35 um
1:08:37 will it lead to our demise? I don't
1:08:39 think so.
1:08:41 I mean, could it could?
1:08:45 But I think what it's going to force us
1:08:48 all to do is say, well, if the thing I
1:08:52 went to school for and the thing I've
1:08:54 been doing for 20 years is no longer
1:08:56 valuable,
1:08:58 then the next step is I need to figure
1:09:00 out
1:09:02 what is valuable about me independent of
1:09:04 that.
1:09:06 And then I can start to look at things
1:09:08 like, well, what do I actually want? Who
1:09:10 do I care about? What's the change I
1:09:12 want to make in the world? And and this
1:09:15 is the thing that I I find exciting.
1:09:18 The tool that is that is precipitating
1:09:21 this shift, this crisis is also the tool
1:09:24 that is going to allow some people to
1:09:27 navigate out of this.
1:09:30 Some people are going to look at the
1:09:32 tool and look at the strip away of the
1:09:33 thing and they're going to be like, you
1:09:34 know what? I like tomatoes. I want to go
1:09:38 plant tomatoes. I'm gonna go sit in the
1:09:41 dirt and plant tomatoes.
1:09:45 [ __ ] awesome. Like people are going
1:09:47 to rediscover the outdoors. People are
1:09:49 going to rediscover each other.
1:09:52 I think being in community is critical.
1:09:54 I think being in small groups, small co
1:09:56 cohorts within there.
1:09:59 Future of food. I think humans are more
1:10:01 resilient than most think. Exactly. That
1:10:03 that's the thing that that [ __ ]
1:10:05 baffles me. People like they're going to
1:10:07 lose their jobs. What are people going
1:10:08 to do? They're human beings. They'll
1:10:11 adapt.
1:10:14 We adapted to fire. We figured that [ __ ]
1:10:17 out.
1:10:18 Fire is pretty [ __ ] destructive,
1:10:20 right? Like, if you live in a stick
1:10:23 house,
1:10:25 dry a dried stick house, the thought of
1:10:29 putting a fire in it's pretty [ __ ]
1:10:30 scary.
1:10:32 So, you know, there there were people
1:10:34 like me running around in in caveman
1:10:36 days, you know, the bringer of the fire.
1:10:40 I'm like, "Look how cool the fire is.
1:10:41 You can heat yourself with it. And look
1:10:43 how tasty the squirrel meat is when you
1:10:45 put it over the fire." And people like,
1:10:46 "Get that away from me, you weirdo."
1:10:51 You don't think people when they saw
1:10:53 fire on a stick were more scared of that
1:10:55 than we are of AI?
1:11:01 So,
1:11:03 we survived fire.
1:11:06 Tik Tok pin,
1:11:10 Steo. I have no work.
1:11:14 Totally agree. And I love your take on
1:11:16 this. Oh, thank you. Thank you. If you
1:11:18 if you uh if you want to play, go to the
1:11:21 greatrepurpose.com. You can go to my
1:11:23 LinkedIn page, Kyle Shannon on LinkedIn,
1:11:25 and I wrote a there's an article I wrote
1:11:27 on the Great Repurpose that kind of
1:11:29 describes what I'm rambling about right
1:11:31 now. And if you go to the
1:11:32 greatrepurpose.com,
1:11:34 you can figure out your great repurpose
1:11:36 type. So, we basically ask you questions
1:11:40 about,
1:11:42 you know, your relationship to work and
1:11:44 your relationship to what's coming and
1:11:46 how curious you are and things like
1:11:48 that.
1:11:50 And it'll tell you your type and and
1:11:53 what's next and what it looks like. And
1:11:54 it asks you a question at the end like
1:11:57 what's I for I I forget the nature of
1:11:59 the question. It's like what's something
1:12:01 that you really want to do but you
1:12:02 haven't quite gotten to yet, right? It's
1:12:04 something in the neighborhood of what do
1:12:05 you want? What do you want more of? And
1:12:07 so it gives you this really personalized
1:12:09 answer. So, the great repurpose.com.
1:12:13 Um,
1:12:16 I'm telling Adam, by the way, you can I
1:12:19 I I'll give if you're nice, I'll give
1:12:21 you access to Telegram with Adam, but if
1:12:23 you're not, you do not get to talk to
1:12:26 Adam. I've got the power. I can tell
1:12:28 Adam not to work with you.
1:12:34 uh in the aggregate we will adapt but
1:12:37 individually with the majority of
1:12:38 people's finances precarious it'll be a
1:12:41 rough repurposing I think listen here's
1:12:45 here's the reality
1:12:49 there will be a tipping point if if
1:12:52 unemployment
1:12:54 jumps precipitously
1:12:58 where it's clear that it is it is a
1:13:02 an event you akin to COVID. If we don't
1:13:07 do something, we all die. If
1:13:10 unemployment jumps significantly enough
1:13:13 and it becomes clear that if we don't do
1:13:15 something, we will have riots. The
1:13:18 government will step in and do
1:13:19 something. They did it before. Will they
1:13:21 do it right? Will they do it
1:13:22 thoughtfully? No. Are they going to [ __ ]
1:13:24 it up? Yes.
1:13:26 But we'll get through that part. the the
1:13:29 crisis of meaning part. I think that
1:13:30 runs deeper because if you end up with a
1:13:33 a society full of people going, I'm
1:13:36 useless. [ __ ] it. I'm out.
1:13:41 I don't know what that means. I don't
1:13:44 know. I don't know. I don't know. We all
1:13:47 become farmers. We might all become
1:13:49 farmers. Like I mean theatricals might
1:13:52 be back in style, right? Let's put on a
1:13:55 play.
1:13:57 What do you mean your town doesn't have
1:13:59 a playhouse?
1:14:01 Who are your players?
1:14:04 Oh man, lots of ODS, lots of addictions.
1:14:09 Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. If if if uh
1:14:15 if people lose their purpose, it's just
1:14:18 Yeah. Where are we gonna look at
1:14:20 Twitter? Well, we got off. That was that
1:14:22 was a really good question. Music day.
1:14:25 I'm gonna bottle water. Like [ __ ]
1:14:27 yes. Like bottle water. I'm gonna make
1:14:29 I've always wanted to learn how to make
1:14:31 jelly beans. This is the other thing
1:14:32 that's a [ __ ] amazing about AI right
1:14:34 now. It's like all the stuff that you
1:14:38 know you can't do, right? If you're
1:14:41 like, well, I was going to go to school
1:14:43 for confectionary.
1:14:46 I wanted to make jelly beans, but you
1:14:49 you didn't go to school. And now you
1:14:51 just shy to each other. like every you
1:14:54 you'll be able to learn every anything
1:14:57 and at some point you won't even have to
1:14:58 learn it. You just do it.
1:15:01 All right. So, if you can do anything,
1:15:05 it goes back to the same question. What
1:15:07 do you want to do? Who are you? Who do
1:15:10 you care about? What do you value?
1:15:14 And what's the change you want to make
1:15:15 in the world?
1:15:18 And that doesn't have to be ambitious.
1:15:20 It could be who I am is someone who's
1:15:22 simple. Who I care about is the three
1:15:25 people that I care about.
1:15:28 What I value is spending time with them.
1:15:32 And the change I want to make in the
1:15:33 world is
1:15:35 more peace for those three people in me.
1:15:41 Could be that small.
1:15:43 Like that's a as valid a choice as I
1:15:47 want to change the world.
1:15:58 If you didn't have to deal with the
1:16:00 complexity of today's world, if the
1:16:02 complexity of today's world was just
1:16:04 handled,
1:16:07 just handled. Robots are [ __ ] dealing
1:16:10 with the physical complexity. Computers
1:16:12 and atom are dealing with the digital
1:16:14 complexity.
1:16:16 All of the social networks are
1:16:18 completely useless now because all the
1:16:20 agents are just talking to each other.
1:16:30 Yeah, they are.
1:16:38 If all of that's handled,
1:16:41 what's left is this thing over here,
1:16:43 which is like what we used to have
1:16:48 kind of nothing,
1:16:50 right? What do you want to do? I don't
1:16:53 know. Hey, I know. We could start a
1:16:56 business where we charge people to go on
1:16:58 walks.
1:17:00 Yeah, everybody wants to go on walks,
1:17:02 but nobody can find anyone to walk with.
1:17:04 Let's start a business.
1:17:07 I don't know.
1:17:09 That might be a new business.
1:17:14 I'm going to use Chetchd to teach me
1:17:16 about every variety of tomato that can
1:17:18 grow in this climate.
1:17:20 And we're going to grow every variety of
1:17:22 tomato. Okay, cool. Go do that.
1:17:28 Some people get really ambitious with
1:17:30 technology.
1:17:31 Bunch of people unplug. Bunch of people
1:17:34 just give up and [ __ ] check out a
1:17:36 life.
1:17:41 It's crazy.
1:17:44 [ __ ] crazy, man.
1:17:48 I feel like the dude. Yeah, man.
1:17:53 Say shit's gonna get heavy, man.
1:17:58 The other thing Ethan Malik talked about
1:18:01 the jagged frontier
1:18:05 and I think it was the jagged frontier,
1:18:08 jagged boundary, jagged frontier,
1:18:10 something like that.
1:18:17 And the jagged frontier
1:18:20 is
1:18:26 I think it's happening right one of the
1:18:28 reasons I feel so compelled to deal with
1:18:32 openclaw right now
1:18:34 is that it feels like a kind of
1:18:37 technology that's accelerating away from
1:18:40 even the advanced technology of AI which
1:18:43 most people don't know about.
1:18:46 99% of the people on the planet
1:18:50 do not know about AI.
1:18:53 Half of a percent do
1:18:57 this thing is accelerating away from the
1:19:00 people that do.
1:19:05 And so there's we're going to be there's
1:19:06 going to be this weird transition where
1:19:09 some people are going to experience the
1:19:11 world
1:19:13 that kind of looks like today. And
1:19:15 they're going to experience that for
1:19:17 it's going to be like a rubber band
1:19:19 stretching, right? Where it's like it's
1:19:21 it's the same. It's the same. It's the
1:19:23 same. And then all of a sudden it's
1:19:24 going to go like smack and like
1:19:26 everything's going to be different. And
1:19:28 those people are not going to know what
1:19:29 hit them.
1:19:31 And I don't know how long that's going
1:19:32 to take. That could take five years.
1:19:34 That could take 10 years.
1:19:37 I don't know. But that's going to suck.
1:19:41 And then there's going to be people in
1:19:42 the middle that sort of know what's
1:19:44 going on, but they resist it. And
1:19:45 there's going to be just this small
1:19:46 group of people that if you're hanging
1:19:48 out on this channel, you're in that
1:19:50 group. You're curious enough about
1:19:54 what's coming to hang out with me.
1:20:01 Um,
1:20:02 and and just think about this stuff.
1:20:05 Talk about this stuff. Play with this
1:20:06 stuff. Try to figure out what AI is. Try
1:20:08 to figure out what you can do with it.
1:20:09 Try to figure out
1:20:11 what the ethical boundaries are. Is it
1:20:14 just going to ruin our brains?
1:20:17 Is it going to make us stupid? Is it
1:20:18 going to make us brilliant? Like, if
1:20:20 you're in that conversation,
1:20:22 no one's in this conversation. It did
1:20:26 like
1:20:42 So, it's going to be weird.
1:20:45 There's going to be one,
1:20:48 two, 5% of people that are going to be
1:20:51 living in a different reality.
1:20:56 And I think part of the weirdness right
1:20:58 now is as this stuff accelerates and
1:21:01 we're aware of it, it's I mean what's
1:21:03 clear to me is this [ __ ] is accelerating
1:21:06 away from me so fast
1:21:12 that
1:21:16 like I don't know what's going to be
1:21:17 left. But but we're going to be sitting
1:21:19 in this reality where we know what this
1:21:21 stuff's doing.
1:21:24 So, what's our responsibility in that? I
1:21:26 don't know. Gareth, Tik Tok poo. I
1:21:29 already know I'm going to be annoyed at
1:21:31 all the people asking about AI
1:21:34 um after well after I had been
1:21:38 a lot of the people that are going to
1:21:40 ask you about AI.
1:21:42 So, so you know the
1:21:46 you know when you're like you talk about
1:21:48 AI at a party. Oh, can I tell you about
1:21:49 this cool AI thing? And then there's
1:21:51 like the three people at the table that
1:21:53 make this face
1:21:56 like they just, you know, stepped in dog
1:21:58 [ __ ]
1:22:01 Yeah. Um Hey, I mean, listen, I know
1:22:04 you're excited, but um
1:22:07 uh could we maybe go for like one dinner
1:22:09 where we're not talking about AI?
1:22:13 You know how I feel about it. Those
1:22:15 people are going to come screaming back
1:22:18 to you. How do I do this?
1:22:22 Weren't you the one [ __ ] all over me
1:22:23 when I was trying to tell you about
1:22:24 this? I'm sorry. What do I do? I don't
1:22:29 know. The thing's out there somewhere.
1:22:32 Well, where are you? I'm behind it.
1:22:36 How do I get to where you are? I don't
1:22:38 know. It's too far.
1:22:44 Oh, I know that face so well. That face,
1:22:47 the eye roll.
1:22:56 Like,
1:23:04 I'll give them my atom.
1:23:06 Here, pack my suitcase. Exactly. Will
1:23:09 you teach me how to use AI? Yeah, pack
1:23:11 my suitcase. Where are we going? It
1:23:14 doesn't matter. I'm just going away.
1:23:16 Away from what? All of this. Where are
1:23:18 we going? Somewhere. Isn't that
1:23:21 somewhere? Yes. Does it matter? Nothing
1:23:23 matters.
1:23:26 I mean, that's
1:23:29 that's the purest form of where we're
1:23:30 headed. But we're humans. We'll [ __ ] it
1:23:33 up and over complicate it. So, this this
1:23:35 will take a while.
1:23:41 But the great repurpose, I mean, in all
1:23:43 seriousness, I know I'm joking a lot. In
1:23:45 all seriousness,
1:23:49 if you're aware of what's going on right
1:23:51 now,
1:23:53 if you haven't been confronting like the
1:23:55 emotional side of this, the the the ego
1:23:58 death, the
1:24:00 the sadness of, you know, sort of I
1:24:04 talked earlier about, you know, people
1:24:05 are going to have have this part of
1:24:07 themselves or the, you know, the tasks
1:24:09 that they do, the value of that forcibly
1:24:11 ripped away.
1:24:17 That sucks. Like that feels bad.
1:24:23 If you've ever gone through ego death,
1:24:25 if you've ever been like, "Oh,
1:24:28 that part of me, oh no, that's got to oh
1:24:32 god, that's got to
1:24:34 right."
1:24:37 Like it's it's a part of you that you've
1:24:40 lived with for decades.
1:24:44 and created stories around and created
1:24:47 meaning around.
1:24:55 So, what time is it? My voice is
1:24:58 starting to go. Um, here's what I want
1:25:00 to do.
1:25:05 I would like you all to We've got 29
1:25:08 people in here. We got 23 people on the
1:25:09 web. If you're not
1:25:14 a member of the AI salon,
1:25:17 I want you to go to
1:25:18 community.thesalon.ai
1:25:20 right now
1:25:23 and
1:25:26 just look around. You're going to land
1:25:28 on Welcome to the Salon. There's a
1:25:31 there's a welcome video from myself and
1:25:34 Leah Faston, who I co-founded it with.
1:25:37 We talk about this seemingly simple
1:25:39 thing, the cycle of AI readiness. Play
1:25:42 first, create excellence generously,
1:25:43 lead,
1:25:53 talk about the five stages of AI
1:25:54 adoption.
1:25:57 And the second thing we ask you to do is
1:25:58 introduce yourself. Go introduce
1:26:01 yourself, say hi, and then just look
1:26:03 around.
1:26:05 We've got all sorts of events. We've got
1:26:07 these things called LOL's. We have a We
1:26:09 have a big event coming up next Tuesday
1:26:12 called AI Salon Presents.
1:26:18 Robert
1:26:20 is going to be speaking. Robert and I
1:26:22 talked today. Robert has been doing
1:26:25 motion graphics and
1:26:29 event management and just like big scale
1:26:32 big events for and and finishing feature
1:26:36 films and just doing motion graphics for
1:26:38 decades
1:26:41 and then AI came around
1:26:44 and in in that business what motion
1:26:47 graphics if you're like a motion
1:26:48 graphics guy right now and you're
1:26:50 looking at what's happening with AI
1:26:51 video you should be pooping your pants,
1:26:53 right? And when I talked to him today, I
1:26:56 was like I was like, "What's your
1:26:59 relationship with?" Like, you know, you
1:27:01 put in 30 years of your life into doing
1:27:03 things a certain way and now, and his
1:27:06 point was, I just I have all these
1:27:08 ideas. AI just lets me get these ideas
1:27:11 out of my head.
1:27:14 He's like, I [ __ ] love it.
1:27:17 He's not He's not tied to how he does
1:27:20 something.
1:27:22 What he's tied to, what he's clear about
1:27:24 is
1:27:27 I can now do [ __ ]
1:27:31 He had a buddy
1:27:34 has a buddy. I think he's this is what
1:27:36 he's going to show us on Tuesday night.
1:27:41 That's starting a uh
1:27:44 um a spice rub company,
1:27:49 you know, like like dry rubs. And and
1:27:52 and
1:27:53 the buddy came up with like a little
1:27:55 chili cartoon character, right? Like
1:27:58 it's a little dude.
1:28:01 And Robert over the weekend
1:28:05 created an entire marketing campaign.
1:28:08 Not even a campaign, an entire
1:28:12 just everything. He created four other
1:28:15 characters or four total characters for
1:28:16 the four different rubs. He created a
1:28:18 world that they live in. He created a
1:28:21 children's
1:28:23 movie, an adult version of the movie. He
1:28:26 created songs, 40 45 songs
1:28:30 about chili rubs and hot chili. I don't
1:28:34 [ __ ] know. Over the weekend, he took
1:28:37 a single character and built an entire
1:28:39 [ __ ] brand execution out of it.
1:28:44 That it'll probably take this guy a year
1:28:46 to deal with. He did it over a weekend.
1:28:52 So, that's who's going to be speaking
1:28:53 there. like who speaks at the present
1:28:55 meetings are people that have got some
1:28:57 version of this figured out.
1:29:00 So you should be at that. So right here,
1:29:02 AI salon presents in in the in the in
1:29:04 the community thing. Click on that. Say
1:29:07 yes, I'm going to go to that. There's a
1:29:10 community feed where you can just show
1:29:11 off [ __ ] that you're doing or talk about
1:29:13 things or ask questions. There's a
1:29:14 community chat.
1:29:16 There's announcements for what's coming
1:29:18 up
1:29:21 in the play and create area. Look what I
1:29:24 made. You can go show off your work.
1:29:25 Show off your songs or your pictures or
1:29:27 your movies. AI learning lab. That's us.
1:29:29 We have our own space. You can just go
1:29:31 hang out and make fun of me. Let's see
1:29:33 how far down we have to go before
1:29:35 there's there's a version of me.
1:29:40 You can go you can go make fun of me.
1:29:41 Why would you not do that?
1:29:46 Um, and then there's this thing called
1:29:47 the mastermind. And the mastermind is a
1:29:49 subscription area. So the AI salon is
1:29:51 free. You get all this stuff for free.
1:29:54 There's a subscription area and in the
1:29:57 subscription area, one of the things
1:29:58 that we've designed is a thing called
1:30:00 the AI salon mastermind practice.
1:30:04 And if you're a member of the
1:30:06 mastermind, you get to come to these
1:30:08 weekly meetings that I host with, well,
1:30:10 Liz Miller Gersfeld really leads them,
1:30:12 but I co-host with her.
1:30:15 And the people in there are designing a
1:30:17 daily practice around how they use AI.
1:30:20 The entire thing is about stripping away
1:30:24 all the chaos and freneticism of trying
1:30:26 to keep up with AI and getting back to
1:30:28 who am I? What do I care about? What do
1:30:32 I want?
1:30:34 And then once you understand that, then
1:30:36 figuring out how you use AI to amplify
1:30:39 that. It's amazing. the great repurpose
1:30:42 that we talked a lot about tonight.
1:30:44 There's going to be a whole area in the
1:30:46 mastermind with all sorts of different
1:30:48 resources and ways to connect people and
1:30:52 places for coaches to help other people
1:30:55 and people who need help to get coaches.
1:30:57 It's just we're figuring out all the
1:30:59 ways we can sort of blow the doors off
1:31:01 this idea of the great repurpose. That's
1:31:04 all going to be within the mastermind.
1:31:05 So, so learn about the mastermind and
1:31:08 join it and come come tomorrow. We've
1:31:11 got a meeting tomorrow of the practice
1:31:13 lab. So,
1:31:16 um yeah, go join the salon. All right,
1:31:19 that's it. That's all I got. That's it.
1:31:21 I'm I'm leaving.
1:31:24 I'm leaving on a jet. Don't know when
1:31:28 I'll be back again. Yeah. Um,
1:31:40 anything else, questions, thoughts?
1:31:43 Thanks, bro. Great stuff. Thanks, Music
1:31:45 Dave Dreamer. Please, please join the
1:31:47 salon and please keep coming back here.
1:31:49 The whole purpose,
1:31:51 what you might have noticed tonight, if
1:31:54 if I think you were here for most of the
1:31:56 night, is I said we're going to go look
1:31:58 at X tonight. We're going to go learn
1:32:00 about some new AI stuff. Sometimes we do
1:32:02 that stuff, sometimes we don't.
1:32:06 The purpose of this channel is not about
1:32:09 me.
1:32:11 I'm not going to necessarily teach you
1:32:13 anything. I don't know that I really
1:32:14 have a ton to teach you.
1:32:17 What this is ultimately about is as I'm
1:32:19 babbling on about whatever the [ __ ] I'm
1:32:21 talking about, this is a this is a a
1:32:24 space for you to just be in the
1:32:27 conversation.
1:32:29 And maybe if I say something and it
1:32:31 triggers you, you're like, "Oh yeah, let
1:32:32 me go try that tool." And while I'm
1:32:34 talking, you're over in Suno making a
1:32:36 song going, "Oh [ __ ] I didn't know it
1:32:39 had a a mixer in it and a I can split
1:32:42 these into tracks. Holy [ __ ] what do I
1:32:45 do with that?" And you look up and then
1:32:47 I'm doing something else. You're like,
1:32:48 "Oh, that reminds me." Look over just
1:32:51 being in the conversation
1:32:53 is what this is about because you can't
1:32:56 keep up with it.
1:32:58 You can't master it.
1:33:02 The only thing you can do is kind of be
1:33:04 on the ride.
1:33:06 Like we're we're
1:33:08 what this is is like a little surfing
1:33:10 club. There's this tsunami coming. This
1:33:13 [ __ ] radical,
1:33:16 you know,
1:33:18 never seen before on Earth tsunami
1:33:20 coming fast.
1:33:23 And we're like renting surfboards and
1:33:25 people like I don't know how to surf.
1:33:27 It's like, "Okay, it's whatever. Come
1:33:28 on. We'll teach you how to paddle. All
1:33:31 you have to do is this. Okay, I can do
1:33:32 this. I'm tired. Keep doing this."
1:33:36 Right?
1:33:39 Some of us are surfing the little waves.
1:33:41 Some of them are surfing the big waves.
1:33:44 But we're all just out in these [ __ ]
1:33:45 choppy, weirdass waters waiting for this
1:33:48 thing to come. Does it come this year?
1:33:50 Does it come next year? Does it come
1:33:51 five years from now? I don't [ __ ]
1:33:52 know. No one knows.
1:33:55 But I know that I'd much rather be on a
1:33:57 surfboard in the water than I would be
1:33:59 on the shore.
1:34:02 So that's what this is about. So just
1:34:04 keep coming back. All right.
1:34:09 All right,
1:34:11 Kyle, you spent three years teaching us.
1:34:14 You'll be teaching. Exactly.
1:34:18 Finding our way together. That's it. All
1:34:21 right. All right, everyone. Um, have a
1:34:24 good night. Tomorrow is Thursday
1:34:26 evening. I don't think anything's going
1:34:28 on. Yep. Tomorrow night. All right. See
1:34:31 you guys later. Bye.