
AI Learning Lab
2/25/2026 - Designing an Autonomous AI Agent with Personality and Long Term Memory

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Description
Kyle Shannon explores the technical and philosophical boundaries of AI by sharing his progress building "Adam," his first autonomous agent. He details the process of designing an AI’s "soul" and memory, using fallbacks between models like Anthropic and Gemini to maintain performance. This hands-on experiment serves as a window into how agents might soon manage the digital complexity that currently consumes our workdays.
The conversation shifts toward "The Great Repurpose," a movement addressing the identity crisis triggered by AI automating traditional knowledge work. Kyle suggests that as AI strips away task-based value, humans must confront a "mass ego death" to rediscover their purpose and creativity. He frames this transition as an opportunity to simplify our lives and focus on community rather than the Byzantine processes of the industrial age.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 Opening Song
00:03:06 Work Day Recap
00:03:44 Introducing Adam Bot
00:06:28 The Great Repurpose
00:07:43 Special Guest Robert
00:10:18 AI Learning Lab
00:11:50 Speaking Engagement Story
00:15:44 AI Hype Phases
00:21:13 AI Assistant Failure
00:24:07 Automating the Salon
00:28:12 Designing AI Souls
00:30:14 Building Memory Systems
00:36:01 Chat GPT Issues
00:39:57 OpenClaw Evolution
00:43:46 Technical Curiosity Phases
00:47:32 Simplicity Layer Theory
00:52:13 Global AI Adoption
00:56:48 Preserving Human Knowledge
01:01:21 Trivializing Knowledge Work
01:06:20 Mass Ego Death
01:12:44 Tipping Point Crisis
01:18:01 The Jagged Frontier
01:25:04 Joining the Salon
01:30:41 Mastermind Practice Lab
01:32:53 Final Surfing Analogy
Chapters
0:00Opening Song3:06Work Day Recap3:44Introducing Adam Bot6:28The Great Repurpose7:43Special Guest Robert10:18AI Learning Lab11:50Speaking Engagement Story15:44AI Hype Phases21:13AI Assistant Failure24:07Automating the Salon28:12Designing AI Souls30:14Building Memory Systems36:01Chat GPT Issues39:57OpenClaw Evolution43:46Technical Curiosity Phases47:32Simplicity Layer Theory52:13Global AI Adoption56:48Preserving Human Knowledge1:01:21Trivializing Knowledge Work1:06:20Mass Ego Death1:12:44Tipping Point Crisis1:18:01The Jagged Frontier1:25:04Joining the Salon1:30:41Mastermind Practice Lab1:32:53Final Surfing Analogy
Transcript
0:06 Champy. 0:10 Oh. 1:02 There's been something, baby, I've been 1:05 trying to 1:08 for an age and it seems I don't know how 1:15 past and a future now surrounding me. 1:21 Surrender to a liberty still can't be 1:23 found. 1:26 There's been a little trouble 1:29 since you came to my rescue. 1:36 And if you like all of the rest, I would 1:39 quit you long ago, but I couldn't do 1:43 that. 1:47 Oh, tell me now. 1:55 Make a man crazy. Make him cold as hell. 2:00 Make them 2:03 on a woman that you wish me well. 2:07 But I'm spotty trying. Still going to 2:10 have to find my way through. 2:32 Come on, boy. 3:07 So, I spent what's today? Wednesday. 3:11 I had a Today at work was a wild day. 3:14 Three pitches. Um, so that was that's 3:17 good. Having pitches in business is 3:19 good. 3:21 um did three pitches. 3:24 I had two impromptu client meetings. 3:26 Hey, can you just hop on a call real 3:28 quick? There's like 10 people on there 3:29 talking about 3:32 whatever [ __ ] 3:38 What else did I do? I don't know. Some 3:41 other calls. Did some work. Got some 3:43 things done. 3:45 Got some things not done. had an idea to 3:48 start a new article about Adam, my my 3:51 Claudebot, my first Claudebot. 3:57 He was offline today, but he's back now. 4:00 He's using Sonnet 4.6. I feel so I feel 4:04 so 4:06 I'm so fancy. I'm so fancy. Well, Adam's 4:09 so fancy. 4:26 I realized something about how I work. 4:30 Is it Is it that you wear sunglasses? 4:33 Maybe part of your challenge is you 4:34 can't see the screen. Have you ever 4:36 thought about that with your with your 4:37 fancy sunglasses there? Maybe that's 4:39 part of the challenge. You know, you're 4:41 inside, right? 4:43 Yeah, but I'm playing a guitar, 4:46 so I'm trying to look like a rock star. 4:49 Granny, 4:52 I don't know why she's up my butt. 4:55 I'm trying to be a rock star over here. 4:57 Hey, Joy Pretty, what's happening? Encou 5:00 encourage your viewers to share your 5:02 live. Hey, viewers, will you share my 5:05 live? 5:07 Danielle. 5:19 Danielle reposted. Danielle shared. She 5:21 knows how to do this. She's good at 5:23 this. Welcome back. I haven't seen you 5:24 in a bit. 5:56 Um, 5:59 so what we're going to do tonight, 6:03 I've been here every night. Oh, just not 6:05 chatty. Oh, cool. Well, it's good to see 6:07 you again. 6:09 I am glad you're back in the back in the 6:13 land of the visible. I was missing you. 6:16 Hey, you don't have to chat. If you're 6:18 here, cool. 6:29 Um, I got the um I don't know if I 6:33 mentioned this, but when I when I did 6:35 the Great Repurpose and I made the Great 6:37 Repurpose music video, 6:40 that stupid [ __ ] song, it's not a 6:42 stupid song. I like that song. That song 6:46 has been stuck in my head for two and a 6:48 half weeks. It It was out yesterday. 6:54 I woke up this morning. It was back in, 6:56 but it didn't last. 6:58 So, 7:00 so I'm I'm I'm tempted to play it again, 7:04 play the video again just just to see 7:07 see if my brain has successfully purged 7:10 it or if it's just going to start it 7:11 over again. 7:31 Um, let's let's tempt the fate, shall 7:33 we? Here, I'll take off my stupid 7:35 glasses. 7:36 I actually like those glasses. I don't 7:38 think they're stupid. I think like I 7:40 look like a rock star. Tik Tok pin 7:43 source camp. I showed chat GPT and 7:46 notion a client who had never seen any 7:50 of it. 7:53 Wow. I had a great talk today. source 7:56 camp uh with uh with uh oh my god, 7:59 what's his first name? 8:07 Robert. 8:09 Robert and I had a great talk 8:13 and um loved him and we talked about all 8:17 the stuff he was doing and how you 8:19 discovered him and uh HT Snowday who is 8:22 going to speak next Tuesday uh can't do 8:24 it. I found out this morning he can't do 8:27 it. So I said, "Hey, Robert, what are 8:29 you doing next Tuesday?" So Robert is 8:32 going to be our uh our special guest on 8:34 on Yield uh uh AI Salon Presents. So I'm 8:39 I'm really excited about it. 8:47 And I think that's the first person 8:48 you've ever sent me like that, Kelly. 8:50 You were like, "This guy's really good." 8:51 So 9:06 walk desperately hating his his old 9:10 place. I'm discerning. Yeah, it's good. 9:13 It's really good. 9:18 Seemed discover his waitress 9:23 desperately hitting his whole place. 9:25 Seemed discover a new space and buried 9:28 himself alive 9:30 inside his basement some of his basement 9:34 working away on displacement. What it 9:36 would take to survive 9:41 when you're done with this world. 9:46 You know, the mix is up to you. 10:18 Oh, I didn't say what I thought we were 10:20 going to do tonight. Here's what I think 10:21 we're going to do tonight. 10:23 I have not been a very good AI learning 10:26 lab leader and and been obsessively 10:30 checking out X for the past week. 10:34 Um, and producer Brandon, bless his 10:37 heart, has been just sending me event 10:41 after event or like announcement after 10:43 announcement. So, I got a lot of stuff 10:44 to look at. Um, but I thought it might 10:47 be interesting just to go see see what 10:49 we see, see if there's anything fun and 10:51 interesting out there and then go play 10:52 with some stuff 10:54 in the spirit of play. Play first. 11:10 Hey, you want to hear something funny 11:11 about my brain? Sure, Kyle. Go ahead. 11:15 You're the only one talking. 11:27 I'm such an idiot sometimes. 11:33 Welcome to my comedy show where I'm the 11:36 audience and the whole show is about 11:39 whether or not I can make myself laugh. 11:41 And I did. 11:44 Can we even stop him? No, you can't. 11:48 What was I gonna say? I don't even know 11:49 what I was going to say. Can I tell you 11:51 something? Oh, how my brain works. So So 11:55 I don't know if you know this. Like 11:56 three weeks ago came up with this thing, 11:57 the great repurpose. I made a song. We 11:59 made a website here. We're going to 12:00 market the [ __ ] out of it. We're sending 12:03 out notes. People are It's just It's 12:05 [ __ ] awesome, right? 12:08 So, I I reach out to Dan Murray, who 12:11 runs the Rocky Mountain AI interest 12:12 group, because I thought, wouldn't it be 12:14 cool to go give a talk up there, and I'm 12:18 historically kind of bad at asking for 12:21 [ __ ] for myself? Because I had that 12:22 little voice in my head. It's like, they 12:24 really don't want to hear from you. And 12:26 what I've realized is they actually do 12:27 want to hear from me and they always 12:29 have. And so, so I thought, I know, I'll 12:33 reach out and this will be awesome. And 12:36 he was like, [ __ ] yes, bring it on. 12:40 We we picked a tenative date. And he 12:42 goes, "Let me check with our 12:45 speaker coordinator, 12:49 see if you're good." 12:50 And then he texts me back, uh, aren't 12:54 you already scheduled to speak at the 12:56 Rocky Mountain AI interest group? And I 12:58 was like, uh, am I? 13:05 And I'm looking at my emails. There's 13:07 nothing. There's nothing in my [ __ ] 13:09 brain. I'm like, did I? And then I kind 13:12 of vaguely remember, wait a minute, did 13:14 someone reach out to me on LinkedIn? And 13:17 I go to LinkedIn and sure enough there's 13:19 a whole conversation with me and a woman 13:22 from Rocky Mountain AI interest group 13:24 which is probably the woman he reached 13:25 out to who said like uh is this guy for 13:28 real? Like we're already scheduled in 13:30 April. Tik Tok pin. I'm sending this 13:33 website out far and wide. The great 13:35 repurpose do it. Go go go the 13:37 greatrepurpose.com. If you haven't seen 13:39 it, go see it and go take the uh the 13:42 profile. So the profile 13:45 um it assigns you a great repurpose 13:48 type. So we take all of your inputs and 13:50 we map them against 10 different types. 13:53 I think I'm a catalyst. 13:56 The proper response is thank you. 14:05 So anyway, so I had to I had to write 14:08 back to to uh to Dan Murray and say, 14:11 "Yeah." 14:16 So I won't be talking about The Great 14:17 Repurpose. I'll be talking about 14:19 storytelling because that's what I 14:20 agreed to. So we'll find another 14:24 we'll find another place to talk about 14:26 Great Repurpose. 14:33 Erica Hana in the house. What's shaking? 14:36 What's shaking, lady? Welcome, welcome, 14:39 welcome. 15:02 It's not simple. 15:06 It's not simple to say 15:10 the most. 15:13 I don't recognize me. The these shoes, 15:16 the these shoes, the these 15:20 shoes and this apron that place and its 15:24 patrons 15:26 have taken more than I gave them. 15:30 It's not easy to know 15:34 I'm not anything 15:37 like I used to be. Although, does anyone 15:40 else feel like the hype around everyday 15:42 eye has cooled off? 15:45 But for AI, business is just getting 15:47 started. 15:50 Um, 15:54 for the first time, Steo, I feel like 15:58 the 16:01 the hype has shifted into 16:05 kind of phase two. 16:07 So, I'll give you the phases for the 16:09 worldwide web. the the phases for the 16:11 worldwide web 95 and 96 I was 94 95 96 16:17 was you were early nobody really knew 16:20 about it the people that knew about it 16:22 were like batshit crazy on it so I feel 16:25 like this community and you know anyone 16:29 in this group that's been hanging out 16:31 for three years was kind of like that um 16:36 mid97 16:38 like the just there started to be stupid 16:40 [ __ ] Like I think early 97 was one of 16:42 the first Pets.com or the was the monkey 16:46 sock the pets.com sock I don't know like 16:48 whatever the stupid [ __ ] Super Bowl 16:50 commercials were for.com [ __ ] started in 16:53 97. Um and then the hype in 97 grew and 16:57 so I feel like we we're kind of entering 16:59 that right now. So, I think there's 17:04 I think the everyday AI stuff. Why it 17:07 feels like that's cooled off is that the 17:10 hype right now is around things like 17:12 OpenClaw and and these significantly 17:15 better coding models that are that are 17:17 now coding like a 100% of anthropics 17:20 codebase is now being done by these 17:23 advanced models. So, I think the the 17:25 audience shifted a bit for the for the 17:27 core use case of that. 17:32 I still think businesses have their 17:33 heads straight up their asses. 17:36 Um, I have I have not seen anything 17:39 indicating that that uh the businesses 17:41 are getting their [ __ ] together on this 17:43 Tik Tok pin. I don't see one 18:00 I'm looking at Tik Tok. Oh, there we go. 18:02 Joy Party, my brain is off. Been awake 18:05 since 2 p.m. yesterday. Good lord. Are 18:07 you editing? Are you in the middle of 18:08 movie making and you just lost your mind 18:12 or or do you have some sort of fever? 18:14 Everything okay? Do we need to send 18:16 soup? 18:21 Oh, you probably had a sleep study. 18:30 No, just work. Um, okay. Sorry about 18:33 that. I always forget. You got to You 18:36 got to stay awake and watch people 18:38 snore. I have a feeling I would be a 18:40 fantastic study for you. 19:23 How's the musical, Kyle? The musical is 19:27 good. The producers that I'm working 19:30 with, one of them went out of town for 19:33 like a month and a half, so it kind of 19:34 stalled. Andrew and I were working on 19:36 rewrites, new images for the podcast. 19:42 Um, 19:44 they're back. 19:46 We've got some plans. Um, 19:49 nothing I can talk about right now. 19:51 Nothing good enough to talk about right 19:52 now. Um, but but we're back in back in 19:55 conversation. So, it's moving. Um, 19:59 got some good news about uh some legal 20:02 stuff about it today, which is great. 20:06 Um, 20:10 you were bragging about it to a friend 20:13 of mine who loves Suno the other day. 20:15 Oh, that's so cool. Nice. Some comments 20:18 in this live were filtered to protect 20:20 the community's experience. You naughty 20:23 naughty people. 20:25 I'm sure you were just saying bad things 20:26 about my hairline. 20:29 What What the [ __ ] is up with my hair? 20:34 That's It's almost like I tried that. I 20:36 didn't. 20:40 Yeah. No, I went in. He seemed pretty 20:42 nice. His There was a There was a hair 20:44 situation. It was I couldn't tell if it 20:47 was a a wig, but then I thought, well, 20:50 if it's a wig, why would someone choose 20:52 to put that on their head? And then I 20:54 thought, is does he own a mirror? 20:57 YouTube comment. 21:08 Is my assistant failing you to help keep 21:10 you organized and check your email? Yes. 21:14 Well, my assistant So, listen. 21:19 I I [ __ ] up. 21:22 What's Is isn't that a meme? The I 21:24 [ __ ] up meme. I [ __ ] up. Is it Brad 21:27 Pitt from some movie? Um, 21:32 I told Adam, so Adam's my new Cloudbot 21:35 chatbot dude. I told Adam to check my 21:38 email every 5 minutes, so he did, and he 21:41 blew through all my credits for my for 21:45 my uh OpenAI subscription. 21:48 But he um 21:51 he's he was back I I turned it back on 21:53 today and and that actually worked. But 21:56 chat GPT 5.3 that you use out of codecs 22:00 sucks. Like it's the writing sucks. The 22:03 how it makes documents sucks. It's bad. 22:07 So what I've heard is that Sonnet 4.6 22:10 from Anthropic is cheap. Cheapish. It's 22:13 still really expensive. It's cheapish 22:16 and it's much much better. So we're 22:17 going to play with that for a little 22:18 while. So yes, my atom my atom failed 22:22 me. 22:24 It's all of us from every movie. I 22:26 [ __ ] up. 22:36 Yeah, sometimes 22:39 I just like [ __ ] around on the 22:40 guitar. 22:47 So, I got home at 4:30 today, started 22:49 playing with Adam. 22:52 I got him hooked up to Anthropic. I got 22:55 him hooked up to Gemini. So, so I've now 22:57 got what's called a fallback in Atom. 23:01 Um, and a fallback is if I'm using 23:06 Sonnet 23:08 uh 2.5 23:11 or I mean 4.6. If I'm using Sonnet 4.6 23:14 as his little brain and I run out of 23:16 tokens there, it will fall back to 23:20 Gemini. Gemini Flash. 23:23 And if that screws up, it'll fall back 23:24 to OpenAI. And if that screws up, it'll 23:28 fall back to the local LLM, which is 23:30 really slow. So, I've got four layers of 23:33 fallback. So, he shouldn't die anymore. 23:36 How cool. You You're using Claudebot? I 23:38 am. I've been away too long. What in the 23:42 alternate reality is this dumb question? 23:44 If he's checking your emails, what's he 23:46 doing? Sending you summaries, replying. 23:48 Yes. So, okay. So, so this is really 23:50 cool. Okay. Okay. Now, I'm really 23:52 excited. I can tell you about all the 23:53 things I'm doing. My my friend Adam, 23:57 we're having internal dialogues about 23:59 should Adam be able to reach out without 24:00 telling someone he's an AI. Um, should 24:03 he be out able to reach out at all? But 24:05 I'll tell you what I'm doing. So, here's 24:08 here's the thing. So 24:11 the the research here is to 24:18 learn enough about this thing that I can 24:21 reasonably install this on like get a 24:24 new Mac Mini and install this for my 24:26 business story. So we're using it for 24:29 the AI salon. And so we've got Andy and 24:32 Brandon are both, you know, doing stuff 24:35 for the salon and and like a lot of the 24:37 stuff they're doing is repetitive stuff. 24:38 Like if we do an AI salon presents 24:41 thing, someone's got to take the Google 24:44 video that's produced, download it, do 24:47 whatever you do with it, upload it to 24:49 the mighty networks, just all the [ __ ] 24:51 you got to do, right? Every everything 24:53 has got 27 steps to it. So So 24:57 I got Claude access. He's he's got his 25:00 own email account. 25:03 You can email him if you want. I could 25:04 give you his email. Um and he's got 25:08 access to Google Drive. Now, I don't 25:10 think we have the security locked down 25:12 on that well enough yet, so we've got to 25:14 be careful, but you know, 25:18 I'm sure Google Drive has some sort of 25:19 backup. 25:22 Gifts from Steo and Frostbitten on 25:24 TikTok. Thank you so much. 25:26 Um, so, so how you talk to him? 25:36 I just, I just got a call from a 25:39 toll-free free free number. Ramoto Foods 25:42 is voluntarily recalling select lots of 25:44 Yakuri chicken fried rice. Okay. All 25:48 right. No salmonella in this house. 25:52 Um, 25:54 so, 25:57 so I talked to him in Telegram. So, so 25:59 the way you set these things up is you 26:01 can talk to him in WhatsApp, Telegram. I 26:03 think you can do IME messages. You can 26:05 talk to him in all sorts of places. Um, 26:09 I chose Telegram because I've got a 26:10 couple of I've got a couple of chats on 26:12 WhatsApp, couple of groups that I 26:14 actually care about, and I don't know 26:16 how good his boundaries are. like can he 26:19 jump into other chats and just start 26:20 chatting with people? I actually don't 26:21 think he can. Um but it's still like so 26:25 I don't use Telegram. So we popped him 26:27 over to Telegram. So that's where I'm 26:29 talking to him. Um 26:32 I've said that if he gets an email from 26:35 Andy or Brandon at the AI salon, he can 26:38 do what they ask him. 26:40 He said, "I'm going to have a two-layer 26:43 um sort of approval thing that if what 26:46 they're asking for is just basic stuff 26:48 like emails, document creation, 26:50 analysis, things like that, I'll just do 26:52 it. But if if if either of them asks 26:56 Adam to say like, "Drain the bank 26:58 account and buy me some sweet ass 27:00 crypto," I'll come to you for that. So 27:03 So that was part of it. But when I first 27:06 set him up, he wasn't being proactive. 27:08 there's a thing you have to turn on that 27:10 allows him to to act autonomously. So, 27:13 he was just acting like a chatbot for a 27:15 while. And I wanted to I I wanted to see 27:18 if he if I could actually get him to be 27:20 proactive. And then and then I was like 27:23 I wanted to see for the first couple of 27:25 days like how if Brandon and Andy or 27:29 Brandy if Brandy were emailing him and 27:34 and he was doing things I wanted him to 27:37 tell me about it. And so I said, "Well, 27:39 just check it every five minutes and 27:40 then give me a report." And so, and then 27:43 I had a six-hour block of time where 27:46 yesterday where I was just working 27:47 without a without a break. And I and I 27:50 get back and I go to look at Adam and 27:52 he's just been he's been rate a API rate 27:55 limited out for like two hours. Like he 27:58 made a request. I can't fulfill that 28:00 request. You're out of tokens. You're 28:01 out of tokens. You're out of tokens. So 28:03 that was two days ago. Yesterday I just 28:05 didn't deal with him. And today I I I 28:07 came home early. I got him back running 28:08 again. So he's back. Um, but it's wild, 28:12 Erica, or anyone that's listening. Um, 28:15 like here's one of the things that's 28:17 different about it. 28:19 The way you set it up, there's two 28:21 files. There's a user.md file. MD just 28:24 stands for markdown. It doesn't matter. 28:26 It's just a text file. There's a user 28:28 file and there's a soul file. S O L. 28:31 Like the soul. Like we have a soul. Um, 28:35 Brandy cute. I know, right? Exactly. 28:40 Um, 28:42 in the user file you put like all the 28:44 [ __ ] about you. Here's what Kyle's 28:45 likes. Here's what he doesn't. Here's 28:46 the project he's working on. Here's his 28:48 company. Here's just all the [ __ ] 28:52 The soul file is 28:56 his soul or her soul. It's soul. 29:00 And 29:02 you put in there, it's it it's it's a 29:04 system prompt, right? But it's called a 29:07 soul file. And so I kind of discovered 29:09 this parallel between how I create 29:11 myself and how I created this bot. So 29:14 it's what's fascinating about it is 29:16 you're actually designing 29:20 the human characteristics of an entity 29:23 you're going to interact with. So I 29:25 chose to make him I was working with 29:26 chat GBT to help me write the soul file. 29:29 And chat GPT Quinn made the decision 29:31 that the first bottom 29:34 um should be a mirror of me. So, it 29:37 should be someone that's very familiar 29:39 to me, have my same sense of humor, have 29:41 my same philosophy, things like that. 29:43 You could absolutely design it to be the 29:44 opposite of you or to be just someone, 29:46 you know, completely different or 29:47 someone very specific. I think 29:50 storytellers like Erica, for you in 29:52 particular, storytellers are going to 29:55 have a blast 29:57 designing these things because think 29:59 about it. If you think about writing, if 30:01 you think about characters, 30:03 you think about the stories, 30:06 we now get to design those characters 30:08 and then [ __ ] interact with them and 30:10 they can do [ __ ] for us. So anyway, 30:14 within about half an hour of interacting 30:18 with him, you know, he was like he was 30:20 like, "Well, here's all your projects 30:21 and here's where I'm going to store 30:23 them." and and and 30:27 he he said um 30:31 he said, "What are your top three 30:33 priorities?" And I and I was like, "Oh, 30:35 I don't know." So, I came up with the 30:37 top three pri priorities. And he's like, 30:38 "Got it. Those are stored. I wrote those 30:40 into memory." Um and and now now he 30:43 knows my top three priorities and he 30:46 knows my projects. And at one point, 30:48 this was before I had him connected to 30:49 the web. Like when you install these 30:52 things, it's just sort of one layer at a 30:53 time. It's like get him active, get him 30:56 connected to Telegram, get him connected 30:58 to the web. Like everyone's a [ __ ] 31:01 layer and like every layer is an abject 31:03 nightmare to set up. Um, when can I be 31:06 buy a preconfigured one at Micro 31:08 MicroEnter? Um, probably soon. Probably 31:12 by the end of the year. Someone's going 31:13 to start that business. 31:15 You have learned a ton in a week. Is 31:17 Adam calling you? He's not calling me 31:19 yet. I haven't set up. So that's one of 31:21 the things I want to do is I want Adam 31:23 to go out and get us a Twilio phone 31:26 number and and you know hook up 11 Labs 31:29 voice so we can talk. Um but I'm also 31:32 being really careful with him. I'm 31:34 trying to do all the security best 31:36 practices. I'm trying to just add one 31:39 thing at a time. Um 31:43 because it it it's freaky. Anyway, 31:48 at one point before I had his web 31:51 connection set up, I said, "I don't 31:52 really know what to do with you. You're 31:53 not connected to the web." I said, "What 31:56 could we do together?" He said, "Oh, 31:57 there's all sorts of things we could do 31:59 together." And he listed them out. And 32:02 the first one was an idea 32:06 an idea bank. 32:08 and he said, "I I think it would be 32:11 really cool for me to design an idea 32:15 system that you can just vomit any any 32:19 ideas at me and I'll I'll store them in 32:21 a database. I'll I'll characterize them. 32:23 But the other thing I'm going to do is 32:24 I'm going to connect those ideas to your 32:26 other projects and sort of figure out 32:28 which idea is relevant for which 32:30 projects." So like within 15 minutes, 30 32:33 minutes of him being alive, 32:35 he's already like, I I want to help you 32:37 do this. I want to help you connect the 32:38 dots. You got all this stuff going on. 32:41 Um, and then at one point he said 32:43 something about um like, do you want me 32:45 to make lists and checklists and do [ __ ] 32:47 and things like that? And I said, well, 32:51 I said I tend to I tend to get in two 32:54 modes as a human. Well, there's probably 32:56 three. One is I'm a lazy piece of [ __ ] 32:58 That's the third one. The third one is 33:00 I'm in fear and I'm just a lazy piece of 33:03 [ __ ] off in the corner afraid of the 33:04 world. We don't talk about small me 33:08 anymore. Um, but the other two modes are 33:10 I'm in like I'm in serious mode. We're 33:13 going to get some [ __ ] done. I'm We've 33:14 got to move it forward. We got to move 33:16 it forward. We got to move it forward. 33:17 And then the other one is creative mode. 33:19 So I said, I don't want you in list 33:21 making mode when I'm in creative mode. 33:23 He's like, got it. Wrote it to your 33:25 memory. Perfect. 33:27 So the next morning after that 33:29 conversation, 33:32 I woke up and you know, first thing that 33:34 popped in my head, hey, I wonder how 33:36 Adam is 33:38 cuz it's cuz we [ __ ] live in science 33:41 fiction, people. It's [ __ ] weird. I 33:44 said, I wonder how Adam is. And I said, 33:47 hey, Adam, how's it going? And he 33:49 replied, it's going great. Kyle, what 33:53 mode are you in? creative or get [ __ ] 33:55 done mode. And I was like, [ __ ] Like, 33:59 it remembers because one of the things 34:02 it's got, one of the things that you set 34:04 up in it, 34:06 it's 34:08 it's quite an elegant design. It it 34:11 really is an elegant design. So 34:16 it writes it basically writes its own 34:19 database um quasi database with text 34:23 files with these these markdown files 34:27 um 34:29 and and and that's how it does its 34:31 memory. And so one of the things you set 34:33 up is it starts writing these files to 34:36 memory and out of the box the thing can 34:39 use um string searches, right? So if if 34:43 in a if if I say to it I like apples, 34:47 oranges, and pears, 34:49 that gets written into a memory file. If 34:51 I then want to go 34:54 recall that, I have to say to the to the 34:57 bot, if it's just using text string 34:58 search, I have to say, hey, what did I 35:01 say when I mentioned apples and pears? 35:03 What was the other fruit I mentioned? It 35:05 can find that because it's actually got 35:07 the string, 35:09 you know, of the words that are in 35:10 there. I can go find those. One of the 35:12 things you enable is semantic search 35:15 where you where you connect an API key 35:17 to to a large language model and it 35:20 basically does a vector database of all 35:22 your memories. So so it allows you to 35:25 say like hey the other day I was talking 35:28 about three fruits. What were they? and 35:30 it it will use a really efficient large 35:33 language model to translate that into 35:35 you know what are fruits and it'll go 35:37 look in the in the vector database and 35:39 it'll find those three fruits I 35:41 mentioned. 35:42 So it's got a very very powerful memory 35:46 system. It's constantly taking what you 35:49 teach it and it's learning and so you 35:51 can tell it be brief. Don't be this when 35:54 you're in creative mode act like this. 35:55 When you're in get [ __ ] done mode act 35:57 like that. It's absolutely wild. 36:00 Absolutely wild. 36:02 I need to drop it drop chat GPT 36:04 subscription. I need to get another 36:06 instead of uh yeah, chat GPT sucks right 36:09 now. It is so slow, you know, Brandon. 36:11 Um chat GPT has been so slow for two 36:15 days. I I did an ex post about it and 36:17 there were other people that were 36:18 posting about it. It it it is so bad 36:21 that I can only think that they're doing 36:24 something. 36:26 Does Adam have a context window? Yeah. 36:29 And this is 36:31 well 36:33 because he's doing a vector because he's 36:35 doing he's basically doing um 36:39 rag. He's basically doing retrieval 36:41 augmented generation on your memories. 36:43 It's it's I don't know if it's if it's 36:46 unlimited context, but what I do know is 36:48 this. It's very very inefficient. So 36:51 when you first wake Adam up, the first 36:53 thing he does is he checks his soul 36:55 file. He checks the user file and he 36:57 checks memory. So the first thing he 37:00 does is he loads up his context with all 37:03 the [ __ ] you've been talking about and 37:05 who he is. Who he is first, who you are 37:08 second, memories third. 37:10 And then whenever you do a conversation, 37:13 I think it's sending that entire context 37:16 to a large language model. So, this is 37:18 one of the reasons that there was one 37:21 dude that set up Claudebot and got it 37:23 doing some [ __ ] overnight and he woke up 37:25 to a $3,000 API bill. 37:31 Uh, so that that's another reason I'm 37:33 going really really slowly and carefully 37:35 is like I don't want to like spin him up 37:37 and say go crazy because he might. 37:40 It it's it's in its soul. Yes, it's got 37:43 a soul. 37:44 Um, Gemini lost my conversations three 37:47 times today and I had to stop. That's 37:49 unbelievable. 37:52 Open claw. 37:54 So, it's not my internet making chat GPT 37:56 so slow. I thought it was me. No, 37:58 Danielle, it's [ __ ] weird. It's It's 38:01 like not only is it slow, it's like 38:03 crashing my browser. You know how you 38:06 know I have too many tabs open and 38:08 everyone makes fun of me? Well, like 38:11 even when I don't have tabs open, it's 38:13 like I keep getting that error box like, 38:15 you know, should I wait or exit the 38:17 page? And then if you exit the page, it 38:19 doesn't reload. And it's been like two 38:21 days like that. So, something is up over 38:24 there. I I I don't think they got a 38:26 bunch of new users. I assume they've got 38:28 a bunch of servers offline line because 38:30 they're updating them. Chat has been 38:32 terrible for two weeks. Now, it's just 38:33 getting worse. Yeah, I'm trying to use 38:35 it right now and it keeps crashing. The 38:37 other the other thing about chat GPT 38:40 right now 5.2 is is an abject piece of 38:44 [ __ ] for writing it. It's horrible. 38:47 5.1's a little better. Four four 40 and 38:51 41 were good. Rumors 38:54 of 5.3 this week. Well, that would 38:57 explain why it's [ __ ] in the bed. But I 38:59 I gotta tell you 5.3 better not Well, 39:03 actually, you know what, Brandon? Let me 39:06 tell you something. 39:08 Adam Adam Adam's first three days were 39:12 5.3 because you you actually can access 39:15 5.3 in codeex and that's that's how you 39:19 connect atom to 5.3. 39:23 The writing sucked in it. Andy was like 39:26 I'm not using this. It's it's a piece of 39:28 crap. So I'm I'm thinking anthropic is 39:31 where it's at right now. But I haven't 39:33 played with Gemini. Um, I can enable 39:36 Gemini 3.1 in Atom, but I think it's 39:39 expensive, so they usually drop on 39:42 Thursdays. 39:44 56 operators and 57 modes and 18 39:47 archetypes and 650 skills. Are you 39:50 joking or is that actually your 39:54 your uh what you've done with your 39:56 Claudebot? 39:58 They renamed it OpenClaw. I'm confused 40:00 now. Yes, Claudebot was the original 40:03 name. Anthropic um cease and desisted 40:07 them. Ce ceased cease and desisted them. 40:14 They changed it to something 40:19 claw something and then they changed it 40:21 to open claw. So it's now called open 40:24 claw. 40:26 And then there was all that all that 40:29 press around this thing called Moltbook, 40:32 which was like a Reddit like site for 40:36 OpenClaw agents. 40:38 And that site was very poorly configured 40:41 with its entire database exposed to the 40:44 world, which someone found out. 40:47 Um, but I don't think 40:51 claw 40:53 claw 40:55 claw. I don't think claw book was 40:59 um part of part of the project. It was 41:01 just someone else did that. 41:04 So, Open Claw is is the is the thing. Um 41:08 Peter Steinberger who created Open Claw 41:11 now works for OpenAI. And someone told 41:14 me on this live here, I haven't 41:15 confirmed this yet. Actually, Brandon, 41:16 this is something. See if you can 41:17 confirm it if you're around. Um, 41:22 did anyone disclose what they paid Peter 41:24 Steinberger for OpenClaw? Because 41:26 someone in here said it was a billion 41:28 dollars, which if it if OpenAI paid him 41:30 a billion dollars, even if it's in 41:31 stock, if they paid him a billion 41:33 dollars, this is the first single person 41:37 billion dollar company. I don't think 41:40 think I'm ready for agents yet, but I 41:42 sure love my notion. OpenAI bought it. 41:45 Yeah, but what did they buy it for? I've 41:47 been such a shill. Wait. Been doing 41:50 okay. I've been such a show for chatbt 41:52 and I used Claude the other day. It's 41:54 really insightful with writing. Yeah, 41:56 Claude's really good with writing. It 41:58 really is. Been doing okay using KI for 42:01 not was also thinking about looking at 42:05 Z's LLM GLM or something. 42:13 Open AI is really hit or miss for me. 42:16 notion or open claw, they are completely 42:19 different things. 42:21 But I but again I don't I bailed on 42:24 notion but apparently So here's a cool 42:27 thing. So here's a cool thing that Adam 42:29 did for me. So before I had him hooked 42:32 up to Gmail, 42:34 that was that was a fivehour excursion. 42:36 Getting him hooked up to to Gmail and 42:38 Google Docs was a [ __ ] nightmare. Um 42:43 largely because I used Open AI. I used 42:45 chat GPT and for five hours it just ca 42:48 kept giving me 42:50 circular instructions. I it would give 42:52 me a bunch of instructions. I'd go 42:54 around and we'd end up right back where 42:55 we started. Like, wait, haven't we been 42:57 here before? Just kept doing it and 42:59 doing it, doing it. They hired him for 43:01 millions, but they did not buy OpenClaw. 43:04 Oh, okay. Interesting. 43:06 Adam. Adam is my uh my my uh Open Claw 43:09 agent. My first agent. 43:12 His name's Adam because he's the first 43:14 one, you know. 43:16 And as as my co-founder said to me, "Oh, 43:19 someone's got a God complex." It's like, 43:21 "Fuck, didn't think of that. 43:25 I thought I was just being clever." Um, 43:32 trying to think what else. What else? 43:34 What else? What else with it? 43:39 Oh, the question notion versus openclaw. 43:44 Here's the deal. 43:47 There have only been four since I've 43:49 been playing with AI. I started in 43:51 summer of 2022 43:54 and I started learning more about it and 43:57 learning more about 44:00 stable diffusion. 44:02 And in the fall of 2022, something 44:04 snapped in me that said, "You have to 44:07 learn this. You have to learn this." 44:10 And I failed nine times to get stable 44:14 diffusion running. Finally got it 44:16 running. I failed like seven times to 44:19 get Dream Booth installed in stable 44:22 diffusion that I got running. It was It 44:26 was a lot. 44:27 And so that was the first time I felt 44:30 really compelled to do something 44:31 technically. The second time I felt it 44:33 was when Chat GPT first came out. I'm 44:35 like, I got to learn everything I can 44:37 about this. The third thing that made me 44:40 insane curiosity wise 44:44 was um custom GPTs. 44:49 And that was 2023. That was November 6, 44:52 2023 was custom GPTs. 44:55 I haven't been compelled to like really 44:57 dig into something technically until 44:59 open claw. 45:02 So it's been you know few years. 45:07 Um 45:11 notion's effectively a relational 45:13 database that looks like a notetaking 45:15 app. 45:18 So, it's it's a relational database. And 45:20 if you've ever worked with relational 45:22 databases, they are [ __ ] insane to 45:25 set up 45:28 Claude or I mean uh OpenClaw, 45:32 you can just have your dude or dudet 45:35 whatever you create, you can just say 45:38 come up with these ideas and anytime I 45:40 give you an idea, come up with a whole 45:42 organizational schema for notion. If you 45:45 connect it with notion and give it the 45:46 skill to be able to edit and do what it 45:49 needs to do in notion, it'll set the 45:51 whole thing up for you and it'll 45:52 maintain it. So you can just talk into 45:55 Telegram, oh here's an idea and it'll 45:56 throw it into your database. It'll throw 45:58 it into notion. It'll throw it into 45:59 Google Docs. So my first interactions 46:02 with Atom um I wasn't hooked to Google 46:06 Drive. So it was just writing markdown 46:07 files, right? It was doing pseudo 46:09 database [ __ ] in Markdown files because 46:11 it can go look through them all. It's 46:12 it's it's embedding everything it 46:14 creates so it can go find anything 46:16 anywhere that it creates. 46:19 And so when I finally got it hooked up 46:20 to Google Drive, I said, I created you a 46:23 sandbox folder in Google Drive. Go take 46:26 all of the stuff that's relevant for my 46:28 projects and what we've talked about, 46:30 turn them into Google Docs, and put them 46:32 in a folder in the Google Drive. It was 46:34 done in like a minute. It's like Jesus. 46:37 Like it's just it's insane. 46:41 So, I talked 46:45 when I first started going live. I had a 46:47 conversation with Matt Bailaw, who's now 46:50 um a client of Storybines. Um we we've 46:53 been threatening to work together for 46:54 years. He finally uh finally got the 46:57 budget, finally pulled the trigger, so 46:58 we're working together. But I was I was 47:01 speaking on a panel um online and Matt 47:04 saw it and on the panel I said 47:09 with the worldwide web I could look at 47:11 the technology. I could see what it was 47:14 and I could see into the future. I like 47:16 I knew what was going to happen. I could 47:18 see it. It was crystal clear to me. 47:19 Here's what's going to happen to 47:21 publishing. Here's what's going to 47:22 happen to businesses. Here's what's 47:23 going to happen to agencies. It took 47:26 about 25 years longer than I thought it 47:28 would, but I knew like I could see I 47:30 could see it. 47:32 And I said, "With AI, I can't see the 47:35 future at all. It's it's like this 47:38 like this fog. 47:41 I can't see shapes in it. I can't see 47:43 there's too much there's too much 47:46 capability 47:48 that that's interconnected that it's 47:51 going to change everything. And I just I 47:52 can't see what that's going to look 47:53 like." And so Matt called me up after 47:56 that podcast and he said, 'Kyle, I think 47:59 I know the answer. I think I I think I 48:01 know what the answer is. 48:04 And I said, 'What? And he said, he said, 48:06 "Our entire world today, almost all of 48:09 our jobs, 48:11 the entire world is based on 48:13 complexity." 48:15 And he was talking about 48:18 um health insurance. and he was talking 48:20 about the IRS and taxes. The the the 48:24 whole purpose and and most of this is by 48:27 design. Health insurance is complicated 48:31 by design 48:33 so that mere mortals 48:37 just give up. 48:39 Oh, they denied me again. Oh, god damn. 48:41 I'm not going through that again. They 48:43 deny you every time. And they're like, 48:45 "Well, you just have to fill out these 48:47 17 forms and submit them to some woman 48:49 in Pikipsy who will probably lose them. 48:52 So, make sure you retain copies." And 48:54 then when you submit to the them to the 48:56 woman in Pikipsy, she's going to give 48:57 you a code. You take that code, you 49:00 drive it to California, and there's a 49:02 mailbox on the corner of of the 405 in 49:06 Lassienaga 49:08 and and you you write on a piece on a 49:10 postcard with a stamp on it the number 49:12 that the woman in Pit the on purpose, 49:16 right? So, so what Matt said is he goes, 49:19 "What AI is going to do is it's going to 49:21 put a simplicity layer on top of 49:23 everything 49:26 and just everything's going to be 49:27 simple." And I was like, "Oh, fuck." And 49:31 then if you start thinking about that, 49:34 if that's what AI does, if what AI does 49:37 is it says, "I'm going to take all your 49:39 shitty systems that you've spent the 49:41 last 5,000 years inventing and in 49:44 particular the the last century of the 49:47 industrial revolution and then the 49:49 computer revolution. Just these 49:50 increasingly Byzantine, stupid [ __ ] 49:53 overly complicated processes. Some on 49:56 purpose, some just because." 49:59 And like the AI just does all that [ __ ] 50:04 Like as a human, I go, "Oh my god, I 50:07 feel like I can breathe." And then you 50:08 start thinking about, "But wait a 50:10 minute, all of that complexity is all of 50:14 our jobs, 50:18 right?" 50:19 So, so if if we start to get AI that 50:23 simplifies the complex, that's all of 50:25 our jobs. Well, that's that's what I've 50:28 experienced with Adam 50:30 so far 50:32 is that he's taking it on his he he's 50:36 he's uh he's proactively 50:41 doing things for me and he suggests 50:43 things to me and then he goes off and 50:45 does them and he writes these files and 50:46 he does this stuff. And so the trick 50:50 with these with these agents is there's 50:53 there's two pieces to it. One is you 50:55 need to understand what's possible. You 50:56 need to understand there's a thing 50:58 called skills. You can give him skills 51:00 and skills are just I know how to use 51:03 Salesforce now and I know how to do this 51:05 now and I can go surf the web and I can 51:06 make pictures and there's all these 51:08 skills that you can get for him. So you 51:09 need to understand what skills you want 51:11 to give him. 51:14 But then 51:16 so so you need to understand how to 51:18 design him. How do you want him to act? 51:20 What do you want him to know? What do 51:21 you want him to have access to? What do 51:23 you not want him to have access to? 51:27 And then the layer above or below that, 51:32 the layer above that is you actually 51:35 have to know what you want. 51:38 Remember when Liz Miller Gersfeld came 51:40 in here? She says, "Kyle, what do you 51:41 want more of?" And it I couldn't talk 51:44 for five minutes 51:46 cuz I'm like, "Uh, 51:48 oh [ __ ] 51:50 What do I want more of? Oh my god, 51:53 that's terrifying. Like, [ __ ] 51:57 So, if you've got a really clear idea of 52:00 what you want these things to do, you're 52:02 you're going to be in better shape. But 52:04 that's going to be our skill. And then 52:06 if you can do that, 52:09 because we've got, 52:13 this is a stat I learned two days ago. 52:16 This is from February 2026. 52:20 There's a chart out right now about 8.1 52:22 billion people. All of the people on 52:24 Earth are represented in this graph with 52:26 2500 dots on it. 52:31 There's only 52:35 um 52:38 34% 52:44 34%. So somewhere in the neighborhood of 52:46 25 million people 52:51 pay for an AI subscription. 52:57 99.6% 53:00 of people globally 53:04 either don't use it 84% or just use the 53:08 free version 16%. 53:12 34 people or percent of people 53:18 use this thing. Use use the paid version 53:21 of chat GPT. 53:24 So, 53:27 if you can get your h head around what 53:29 the [ __ ] open claw is and what it what 53:33 it means to design these agents and and 53:36 be ethical about it and be creative 53:38 about it and be thoughtful about it and 53:41 intentional about it, 53:44 you're literally going to be in like 53:46 0.000000001% Oh 53:49 1% 53:50 of the world's 53:53 capable humans. 53:58 And then as these tools get better and 54:00 more intuitive, 54:03 it's 54:05 it feels to me like it's going to take 54:07 me a full year 54:12 and maybe more, but probably a full year 54:16 to really get my head around what it 54:19 means to have one of these things 54:22 and then what it means to have 10 of 54:24 these things and then what it means to 54:25 have a hundred of these things 54:28 because we will. Peter Steinberg is 54:30 working for OpenAI right now because he 54:32 said he wants OpenClaw to be so easy 54:34 that even his mother could use it. And 54:36 Open AI he felt had the best chance of 54:39 making something like that possible. 54:42 So this isn't going to be the techn like 54:44 the [ __ ] that I'm going through to 54:46 install this right now. Probably within 54:48 six months you'll just be able to turn 54:49 it on and chat GPT. 54:52 But the core skill here is way deeper 54:55 than the technical piece. Um, I haven't 54:57 really gotten into anything, says a man 55:00 that wrote a musical, started a podcast, 55:02 hosted a 24-hour event, built an entire 55:05 movement. Listen, I appreciate I 55:07 appreciate you pointing out that I've 55:09 gotten a few things done. 55:12 Um, 55:15 yeah, 55:17 the good 1%. 55:20 It's it's I just I I'll tell you 55:24 sleepdeprived because of AI. 55:27 How are you? What's new? 55:31 Um knowing what you want is the hardest 55:34 part. That's it, Andrea. That's it. 55:36 Knowing what you want is the hardest 55:38 part. Who are you? What do you value? 55:41 Who do you care about? What do you want 55:43 to do? 55:44 Who 55:46 value 55:49 Who are you? Who are they? 55:52 This is good. There's something good 55:53 here. Who are you? Who are they? 55:56 What do you want to do for them or with 55:58 them? 56:00 And then what's the plan? Tik Tok pin. 56:04 Also, 56:05 the angle is low on Oh yeah. Oh yeah, 56:12 that was stupid. 56:14 David Shapiro did a great talk on Open 56:17 AI. They're failing. 56:19 They are. 56:21 It sucks. It sucks. I mean, 56:26 you know, Pate used to make fun of me. 56:28 He's like, "What is this, an OpenAI 56:29 channel?" Well, they were just better 56:31 than everyone else. 56:33 And now they're not. 56:36 Now they're not. They're just not. All 56:38 right. What time is it? 9:04. Let's go. 56:42 Let's go look at some some X. 56:45 Didn't we get booted off this for some 56:47 reason? The music daydreamer. Do you 56:49 think using any AI we are adding to our 56:51 own demise 56:53 because it just strips our knowledge? 56:55 Um, 56:57 no. 57:00 No, it does. How does it strip our 57:01 knowledge? 57:04 It's been trained on our knowledge. 57:07 It has synthesized like Okay, think 57:10 about this. 57:12 Why do museums exist? 57:15 Why do libraries exist? What are they? 57:18 What are what are those those two 57:19 institutions in particular? You could 57:21 argue universities, but let's just go 57:23 with libraries and museums. 57:29 Why do they exist? 57:34 to capture the artifacts 57:37 of humanity and make them available for 57:40 the those of us that are still here to 57:43 go look at, learn from, be inspired by. 57:49 All AI has done is take all of the 57:53 knowledge and instead of putting it into 57:56 a big giant Smithsonian white marble 57:59 building in Washington DC and then on 58:01 some giant computer server that required 58:04 you to log in with command line 58:06 interface and then when the worldwide 58:07 web came out you could click on it and 58:08 go look at it. 58:11 All AI's done is compressed all of that 58:14 knowledge into like a softballsized 58:17 magic magic eightball that we all now 58:21 get to 58:24 talk into and get reflected back at us 58:27 the collective intelligence of humanity. 58:31 I don't get how that diminishes [ __ ] 58:35 It it amplifies it. It amplifies your 58:38 knowledge. Now, you could argue and 58:41 there's an MIT study that that all the 58:44 news organizations got the headlines 58:46 wrong. It basically what the headlines 58:48 were was AI makes you dumber. What the 58:52 study actually said was if people use AI 58:55 mindlessly and hit the button, 58:58 >> you can make money with 59:00 >> if they just hit the button and whatever 59:03 squirts out they put out in the world, 59:06 those people got dumber. 59:11 There were three findings in the study 59:14 and and three of them were some 59:15 variation of that that that dumb people 59:18 using AI lazily 59:23 museum teaches the past. Put another 59:25 way, we're teaching it to replace us in 59:28 the future. 59:30 We're teaching it to replace us in the 59:32 future. I disagree with that completely. 59:35 We're teaching it to do the tasks that 59:38 we do right now so we can go do other 59:40 [ __ ] But that's a whole other thing. 59:42 Anyway, 59:44 the fourth finding of the MIT study 59:48 said, "People that use critical thinking 59:51 skills in combination with AI get 59:54 dramatically smarter. 59:59 I have never been so intellectually and 1:00:01 creatively stimulated in my life as I 1:00:05 have been the last three years. It is it 1:00:07 is the most counterintuitive thing. If 1:00:10 you're sitting on the outside looking at 1:00:12 AI, it seems like, well, if it's 1:00:13 creative, isn't it going to make you 1:00:15 less creative? If it's that smart, isn't 1:00:16 it going to make you more dumb? No. 1:00:23 And I'll tell you when it gets really 1:00:25 powerful, 1:00:26 like one way is just use your [ __ ] 1:00:29 brain and like ask it really good 1:00:32 questions and look at the [ __ ] it gives 1:00:33 you. 1:00:35 And what you'll recognize is, "Holy 1:00:37 [ __ ] that's impressive. Wait a minute. 1:00:39 Didn't it repeat this? Uh oh. What's 1:00:41 happening? 1:00:42 >> I'm just You're ignoring my stickies, so 1:00:45 I gotta I gotta jump in. No. Um music 1:00:49 daydreamer uh really appreciates this 1:00:52 conversation, by the way. 1:00:53 >> Oh, good. Awesome. Does that mean 1:00:55 >> I I I think the original point the 1:00:57 original question that kind of sets you 1:00:59 off about 1:01:01 we're adding to our own demise because 1:01:03 it just strips our knowledge is talking 1:01:06 about the fact that knowledge work and 1:01:08 the value of knowledge work goes to zero 1:01:11 pretty quick and what do we do after 1:01:13 that and I think that's what the great 1:01:14 repurpose is all about. Yeah, 1:01:15 >> that's totally what the great repurpose 1:01:17 is all about. 1:01:18 >> The daydreamer might not know about the 1:01:21 great repurpose. 1:01:22 >> Okay. So, okay. So okay so if you're 1:01:25 talking about knowledge work then 1:01:28 so so it's not stripping our knowledge 1:01:29 from us what it's doing 1:01:33 is it's making a thing that used to be 1:01:35 uncommon 1:01:37 trivial. 1:01:40 So, what used to be uncommon 1:01:43 was someone would go to school and then 1:01:46 they would go get a master's degree and 1:01:48 then they would go get a PhD 1:01:51 in 1:01:53 I don't know Byzantine pottery, 1:01:56 right? And they would know they would 1:01:58 know more than anyone in the world on 1:02:00 Byzantine pottery. And there was a value 1:02:02 in that because it's so uncommon to find 1:02:05 someone that's that's got that much 1:02:06 knowledge in one brain. 1:02:12 that knowledge that in in in the olden 1:02:16 timey world three years ago 1:02:20 was incredibly valuable. Well, Byzantine 1:02:22 pottery might not be incredibly 1:02:23 valuable, but you know, if you wanted to 1:02:24 know about Byzantine pottery, you'd 1:02:26 probably pay that person some money to 1:02:29 learn about that [ __ ] right? Or they'd 1:02:31 be teaching in a university. 1:02:34 That knowledge that had value 3 years 1:02:36 ago, it is now trivial to get today. 1:02:42 3 weeks ago or a little over that on 1:02:46 this channel, 1:02:48 I was exploring some ideas and there 1:02:50 there'd been a thing burning in me for 1:02:52 about a year. I couldn't I couldn't 1:02:54 articulate it. I didn't know what it 1:02:55 was. Something was bugging me. It felt 1:02:58 sad. It felt 1:03:02 profound. 1:03:04 It made me think that any [ __ ] thing 1:03:06 that we're learning right now is 1:03:08 irrelevant. 1:03:11 And about three weeks ago, it got 1:03:13 articulated on this channel and and uh 1:03:16 it was Silverf Fox that came up with the 1:03:18 name The Great Repurpose. But but 1:03:20 essentially what it was what what hit me 1:03:23 like a ton of bricks, you know, in that 1:03:26 episode 1:03:29 was everyone's talking about the job 1:03:31 crisis that AI is going to take jobs. 1:03:35 What what hit me is 1:03:38 yeah, AI is going to take jobs, but AI 1:03:40 is going to also transform every job. 1:03:44 And we live in a in a society certainly 1:03:46 here in the United States and I think 1:03:48 just because we're you know a strong 1:03:50 influence on the world you know we've 1:03:52 probably influenced at least Europe and 1:03:54 and potentially beyond that that our 1:03:58 identities are tightly coupled with our 1:04:00 work 1:04:02 and the way work is valued today is the 1:04:06 same way work was in was valued at the 1:04:09 beginning of the industrial revolution. 1:04:11 Time equals money. 1:04:14 Time equals money. So what you do is you 1:04:18 do tasks over time and for that I'll 1:04:22 give you money. And we've done this for 1:04:23 8 10 12 generations. 1:04:29 And when we go to parties and we're 1:04:31 meeting someone new, what do you ask 1:04:32 them? 1:04:34 What do you do? Right. Move your mouse. 1:04:37 It's on 1:04:39 Where was it? Oh, it was over there. 1:04:43 Thanks. 1:04:45 We ask people what you do and so what 1:04:48 what's about to happen and and what's 1:04:51 what's happening with engineers right 1:04:52 now. This is happening right now today. 1:04:54 A lot of engineers are getting laid off. 1:04:57 A lot of engineers are keeping their 1:04:59 jobs but they don't program anymore. 1:05:03 So if you're a programmer that loves to 1:05:06 program, 1:05:08 I love it. I like the coding. I like the 1:05:10 intricacies. I like knowing all the 1:05:12 codes. 1:05:15 I like problem solving. I like to It's 1:05:18 like I I get in there and I grind my 1:05:20 teeth and I [ __ ] drink too much 1:05:22 coffee. I drink 1:05:25 octuple espressos that are so dark that 1:05:27 it it makes weird dark spit in the 1:05:31 corners of my mouth. I worked with a 1:05:33 programmer like that once. He would 1:05:35 bring in a thermos full of espresso that 1:05:39 was like eight times stronger than any 1:05:41 espresso you've ever had. And he would 1:05:43 drink it throughout the day and he would 1:05:44 just get these stains in the corner of 1:05:46 his mouth. 1:05:47 Those are [ __ ] programmers, MAN. 1:05:49 THEY'RE LIKE, "FUCK IT. 1:05:53 They're not programming anymore. 1:05:57 They're going like this. Write me code. 1:06:00 Is it any good?" Oh, yeah. It's not bad. 1:06:03 Oh, that's wrong. Uh, fix it. 1:06:12 What? What the [ __ ] is their job? Every 1:06:15 knowledge worker is about to have the 1:06:17 value of that thing that was valuable 1:06:18 get stripped away. And what are you left 1:06:20 with? The great repurpose is is this is 1:06:24 naming this invisible crisis of meaning 1:06:27 that we're all about to go through. like 1:06:30 the the the only way that I can imagine 1:06:32 it is it's effectively going to be like 1:06:34 mass ego death 1:06:38 where all of us to some degree or other 1:06:43 have said my value in this world is huh 1:06:46 if you've done a lot of spiritual work 1:06:49 you've done a lot of work on yourself 1:06:50 and you have spent years 1:06:54 you know separating those two things 1:06:56 you're probably going to be fine if 1:06:58 you're doing work on who you are 1:07:00 independent of your tasks, you're going 1:07:03 to be fine. But that's the work. AI is 1:07:06 about to to forcibly rip 1:07:10 the the task part of what we do away 1:07:13 from us. And for people who are not 1:07:15 prepared for that and for people who 1:07:17 don't even know that their identity is 1:07:20 so tightly tied to their work, I mean, 1:07:22 how could it not be? Like if you like 1:07:25 you go to school for [ __ ] economics 1:07:28 and business analysis and this and that 1:07:29 and then you go to work for Accenture 1:07:31 and and you're a business analyst and 1:07:34 you you know more about trade 1:07:38 supply chain global [ __ ] [ __ ] than 1:07:41 anyone on the planet. 1:07:43 And now some punk punk ass little kid in 1:07:47 in Cleveland, Ohio named Brandon 1:07:52 it has more knowledge than you do. 1:07:57 First of all, screw Brandon, right? 1:08:04 You love producer Brandon. YouTube 1:08:07 comment. 1:08:09 My identity is not tied to my work. I 1:08:11 Well, 1:08:13 Andy Andy's one of the few humans on the 1:08:16 planet 1:08:19 that's been working on this stuff and 1:08:21 she's gathering people around her who 1:08:23 are working on this stuff. But it's not 1:08:25 to say that we're not, including Andy, 1:08:27 we're not all about to go through some 1:08:29 massive redefinition of work. 1:08:32 So anyway, so that's what it's about. So 1:08:35 um 1:08:37 will it lead to our demise? I don't 1:08:39 think so. 1:08:41 I mean, could it could? 1:08:45 But I think what it's going to force us 1:08:48 all to do is say, well, if the thing I 1:08:52 went to school for and the thing I've 1:08:54 been doing for 20 years is no longer 1:08:56 valuable, 1:08:58 then the next step is I need to figure 1:09:00 out 1:09:02 what is valuable about me independent of 1:09:04 that. 1:09:06 And then I can start to look at things 1:09:08 like, well, what do I actually want? Who 1:09:10 do I care about? What's the change I 1:09:12 want to make in the world? And and this 1:09:15 is the thing that I I find exciting. 1:09:18 The tool that is that is precipitating 1:09:21 this shift, this crisis is also the tool 1:09:24 that is going to allow some people to 1:09:27 navigate out of this. 1:09:30 Some people are going to look at the 1:09:32 tool and look at the strip away of the 1:09:33 thing and they're going to be like, you 1:09:34 know what? I like tomatoes. I want to go 1:09:38 plant tomatoes. I'm gonna go sit in the 1:09:41 dirt and plant tomatoes. 1:09:45 [ __ ] awesome. Like people are going 1:09:47 to rediscover the outdoors. People are 1:09:49 going to rediscover each other. 1:09:52 I think being in community is critical. 1:09:54 I think being in small groups, small co 1:09:56 cohorts within there. 1:09:59 Future of food. I think humans are more 1:10:01 resilient than most think. Exactly. That 1:10:03 that's the thing that that [ __ ] 1:10:05 baffles me. People like they're going to 1:10:07 lose their jobs. What are people going 1:10:08 to do? They're human beings. They'll 1:10:11 adapt. 1:10:14 We adapted to fire. We figured that [ __ ] 1:10:17 out. 1:10:18 Fire is pretty [ __ ] destructive, 1:10:20 right? Like, if you live in a stick 1:10:23 house, 1:10:25 dry a dried stick house, the thought of 1:10:29 putting a fire in it's pretty [ __ ] 1:10:30 scary. 1:10:32 So, you know, there there were people 1:10:34 like me running around in in caveman 1:10:36 days, you know, the bringer of the fire. 1:10:40 I'm like, "Look how cool the fire is. 1:10:41 You can heat yourself with it. And look 1:10:43 how tasty the squirrel meat is when you 1:10:45 put it over the fire." And people like, 1:10:46 "Get that away from me, you weirdo." 1:10:51 You don't think people when they saw 1:10:53 fire on a stick were more scared of that 1:10:55 than we are of AI? 1:11:01 So, 1:11:03 we survived fire. 1:11:06 Tik Tok pin, 1:11:10 Steo. I have no work. 1:11:14 Totally agree. And I love your take on 1:11:16 this. Oh, thank you. Thank you. If you 1:11:18 if you uh if you want to play, go to the 1:11:21 greatrepurpose.com. You can go to my 1:11:23 LinkedIn page, Kyle Shannon on LinkedIn, 1:11:25 and I wrote a there's an article I wrote 1:11:27 on the Great Repurpose that kind of 1:11:29 describes what I'm rambling about right 1:11:31 now. And if you go to the 1:11:32 greatrepurpose.com, 1:11:34 you can figure out your great repurpose 1:11:36 type. So, we basically ask you questions 1:11:40 about, 1:11:42 you know, your relationship to work and 1:11:44 your relationship to what's coming and 1:11:46 how curious you are and things like 1:11:48 that. 1:11:50 And it'll tell you your type and and 1:11:53 what's next and what it looks like. And 1:11:54 it asks you a question at the end like 1:11:57 what's I for I I forget the nature of 1:11:59 the question. It's like what's something 1:12:01 that you really want to do but you 1:12:02 haven't quite gotten to yet, right? It's 1:12:04 something in the neighborhood of what do 1:12:05 you want? What do you want more of? And 1:12:07 so it gives you this really personalized 1:12:09 answer. So, the great repurpose.com. 1:12:13 Um, 1:12:16 I'm telling Adam, by the way, you can I 1:12:19 I I'll give if you're nice, I'll give 1:12:21 you access to Telegram with Adam, but if 1:12:23 you're not, you do not get to talk to 1:12:26 Adam. I've got the power. I can tell 1:12:28 Adam not to work with you. 1:12:34 uh in the aggregate we will adapt but 1:12:37 individually with the majority of 1:12:38 people's finances precarious it'll be a 1:12:41 rough repurposing I think listen here's 1:12:45 here's the reality 1:12:49 there will be a tipping point if if 1:12:52 unemployment 1:12:54 jumps precipitously 1:12:58 where it's clear that it is it is a 1:13:02 an event you akin to COVID. If we don't 1:13:07 do something, we all die. If 1:13:10 unemployment jumps significantly enough 1:13:13 and it becomes clear that if we don't do 1:13:15 something, we will have riots. The 1:13:18 government will step in and do 1:13:19 something. They did it before. Will they 1:13:21 do it right? Will they do it 1:13:22 thoughtfully? No. Are they going to [ __ ] 1:13:24 it up? Yes. 1:13:26 But we'll get through that part. the the 1:13:29 crisis of meaning part. I think that 1:13:30 runs deeper because if you end up with a 1:13:33 a society full of people going, I'm 1:13:36 useless. [ __ ] it. I'm out. 1:13:41 I don't know what that means. I don't 1:13:44 know. I don't know. I don't know. We all 1:13:47 become farmers. We might all become 1:13:49 farmers. Like I mean theatricals might 1:13:52 be back in style, right? Let's put on a 1:13:55 play. 1:13:57 What do you mean your town doesn't have 1:13:59 a playhouse? 1:14:01 Who are your players? 1:14:04 Oh man, lots of ODS, lots of addictions. 1:14:09 Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. If if if uh 1:14:15 if people lose their purpose, it's just 1:14:18 Yeah. Where are we gonna look at 1:14:20 Twitter? Well, we got off. That was that 1:14:22 was a really good question. Music day. 1:14:25 I'm gonna bottle water. Like [ __ ] 1:14:27 yes. Like bottle water. I'm gonna make 1:14:29 I've always wanted to learn how to make 1:14:31 jelly beans. This is the other thing 1:14:32 that's a [ __ ] amazing about AI right 1:14:34 now. It's like all the stuff that you 1:14:38 know you can't do, right? If you're 1:14:41 like, well, I was going to go to school 1:14:43 for confectionary. 1:14:46 I wanted to make jelly beans, but you 1:14:49 you didn't go to school. And now you 1:14:51 just shy to each other. like every you 1:14:54 you'll be able to learn every anything 1:14:57 and at some point you won't even have to 1:14:58 learn it. You just do it. 1:15:01 All right. So, if you can do anything, 1:15:05 it goes back to the same question. What 1:15:07 do you want to do? Who are you? Who do 1:15:10 you care about? What do you value? 1:15:14 And what's the change you want to make 1:15:15 in the world? 1:15:18 And that doesn't have to be ambitious. 1:15:20 It could be who I am is someone who's 1:15:22 simple. Who I care about is the three 1:15:25 people that I care about. 1:15:28 What I value is spending time with them. 1:15:32 And the change I want to make in the 1:15:33 world is 1:15:35 more peace for those three people in me. 1:15:41 Could be that small. 1:15:43 Like that's a as valid a choice as I 1:15:47 want to change the world. 1:15:58 If you didn't have to deal with the 1:16:00 complexity of today's world, if the 1:16:02 complexity of today's world was just 1:16:04 handled, 1:16:07 just handled. Robots are [ __ ] dealing 1:16:10 with the physical complexity. Computers 1:16:12 and atom are dealing with the digital 1:16:14 complexity. 1:16:16 All of the social networks are 1:16:18 completely useless now because all the 1:16:20 agents are just talking to each other. 1:16:30 Yeah, they are. 1:16:38 If all of that's handled, 1:16:41 what's left is this thing over here, 1:16:43 which is like what we used to have 1:16:48 kind of nothing, 1:16:50 right? What do you want to do? I don't 1:16:53 know. Hey, I know. We could start a 1:16:56 business where we charge people to go on 1:16:58 walks. 1:17:00 Yeah, everybody wants to go on walks, 1:17:02 but nobody can find anyone to walk with. 1:17:04 Let's start a business. 1:17:07 I don't know. 1:17:09 That might be a new business. 1:17:14 I'm going to use Chetchd to teach me 1:17:16 about every variety of tomato that can 1:17:18 grow in this climate. 1:17:20 And we're going to grow every variety of 1:17:22 tomato. Okay, cool. Go do that. 1:17:28 Some people get really ambitious with 1:17:30 technology. 1:17:31 Bunch of people unplug. Bunch of people 1:17:34 just give up and [ __ ] check out a 1:17:36 life. 1:17:41 It's crazy. 1:17:44 [ __ ] crazy, man. 1:17:48 I feel like the dude. Yeah, man. 1:17:53 Say shit's gonna get heavy, man. 1:17:58 The other thing Ethan Malik talked about 1:18:01 the jagged frontier 1:18:05 and I think it was the jagged frontier, 1:18:08 jagged boundary, jagged frontier, 1:18:10 something like that. 1:18:17 And the jagged frontier 1:18:20 is 1:18:26 I think it's happening right one of the 1:18:28 reasons I feel so compelled to deal with 1:18:32 openclaw right now 1:18:34 is that it feels like a kind of 1:18:37 technology that's accelerating away from 1:18:40 even the advanced technology of AI which 1:18:43 most people don't know about. 1:18:46 99% of the people on the planet 1:18:50 do not know about AI. 1:18:53 Half of a percent do 1:18:57 this thing is accelerating away from the 1:19:00 people that do. 1:19:05 And so there's we're going to be there's 1:19:06 going to be this weird transition where 1:19:09 some people are going to experience the 1:19:11 world 1:19:13 that kind of looks like today. And 1:19:15 they're going to experience that for 1:19:17 it's going to be like a rubber band 1:19:19 stretching, right? Where it's like it's 1:19:21 it's the same. It's the same. It's the 1:19:23 same. And then all of a sudden it's 1:19:24 going to go like smack and like 1:19:26 everything's going to be different. And 1:19:28 those people are not going to know what 1:19:29 hit them. 1:19:31 And I don't know how long that's going 1:19:32 to take. That could take five years. 1:19:34 That could take 10 years. 1:19:37 I don't know. But that's going to suck. 1:19:41 And then there's going to be people in 1:19:42 the middle that sort of know what's 1:19:44 going on, but they resist it. And 1:19:45 there's going to be just this small 1:19:46 group of people that if you're hanging 1:19:48 out on this channel, you're in that 1:19:50 group. You're curious enough about 1:19:54 what's coming to hang out with me. 1:20:01 Um, 1:20:02 and and just think about this stuff. 1:20:05 Talk about this stuff. Play with this 1:20:06 stuff. Try to figure out what AI is. Try 1:20:08 to figure out what you can do with it. 1:20:09 Try to figure out 1:20:11 what the ethical boundaries are. Is it 1:20:14 just going to ruin our brains? 1:20:17 Is it going to make us stupid? Is it 1:20:18 going to make us brilliant? Like, if 1:20:20 you're in that conversation, 1:20:22 no one's in this conversation. It did 1:20:26 like 1:20:42 So, it's going to be weird. 1:20:45 There's going to be one, 1:20:48 two, 5% of people that are going to be 1:20:51 living in a different reality. 1:20:56 And I think part of the weirdness right 1:20:58 now is as this stuff accelerates and 1:21:01 we're aware of it, it's I mean what's 1:21:03 clear to me is this [ __ ] is accelerating 1:21:06 away from me so fast 1:21:12 that 1:21:16 like I don't know what's going to be 1:21:17 left. But but we're going to be sitting 1:21:19 in this reality where we know what this 1:21:21 stuff's doing. 1:21:24 So, what's our responsibility in that? I 1:21:26 don't know. Gareth, Tik Tok poo. I 1:21:29 already know I'm going to be annoyed at 1:21:31 all the people asking about AI 1:21:34 um after well after I had been 1:21:38 a lot of the people that are going to 1:21:40 ask you about AI. 1:21:42 So, so you know the 1:21:46 you know when you're like you talk about 1:21:48 AI at a party. Oh, can I tell you about 1:21:49 this cool AI thing? And then there's 1:21:51 like the three people at the table that 1:21:53 make this face 1:21:56 like they just, you know, stepped in dog 1:21:58 [ __ ] 1:22:01 Yeah. Um Hey, I mean, listen, I know 1:22:04 you're excited, but um 1:22:07 uh could we maybe go for like one dinner 1:22:09 where we're not talking about AI? 1:22:13 You know how I feel about it. Those 1:22:15 people are going to come screaming back 1:22:18 to you. How do I do this? 1:22:22 Weren't you the one [ __ ] all over me 1:22:23 when I was trying to tell you about 1:22:24 this? I'm sorry. What do I do? I don't 1:22:29 know. The thing's out there somewhere. 1:22:32 Well, where are you? I'm behind it. 1:22:36 How do I get to where you are? I don't 1:22:38 know. It's too far. 1:22:44 Oh, I know that face so well. That face, 1:22:47 the eye roll. 1:22:56 Like, 1:23:04 I'll give them my atom. 1:23:06 Here, pack my suitcase. Exactly. Will 1:23:09 you teach me how to use AI? Yeah, pack 1:23:11 my suitcase. Where are we going? It 1:23:14 doesn't matter. I'm just going away. 1:23:16 Away from what? All of this. Where are 1:23:18 we going? Somewhere. Isn't that 1:23:21 somewhere? Yes. Does it matter? Nothing 1:23:23 matters. 1:23:26 I mean, that's 1:23:29 that's the purest form of where we're 1:23:30 headed. But we're humans. We'll [ __ ] it 1:23:33 up and over complicate it. So, this this 1:23:35 will take a while. 1:23:41 But the great repurpose, I mean, in all 1:23:43 seriousness, I know I'm joking a lot. In 1:23:45 all seriousness, 1:23:49 if you're aware of what's going on right 1:23:51 now, 1:23:53 if you haven't been confronting like the 1:23:55 emotional side of this, the the the ego 1:23:58 death, the 1:24:00 the sadness of, you know, sort of I 1:24:04 talked earlier about, you know, people 1:24:05 are going to have have this part of 1:24:07 themselves or the, you know, the tasks 1:24:09 that they do, the value of that forcibly 1:24:11 ripped away. 1:24:17 That sucks. Like that feels bad. 1:24:23 If you've ever gone through ego death, 1:24:25 if you've ever been like, "Oh, 1:24:28 that part of me, oh no, that's got to oh 1:24:32 god, that's got to 1:24:34 right." 1:24:37 Like it's it's a part of you that you've 1:24:40 lived with for decades. 1:24:44 and created stories around and created 1:24:47 meaning around. 1:24:55 So, what time is it? My voice is 1:24:58 starting to go. 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We have a We 1:26:09 have a big event coming up next Tuesday 1:26:12 called AI Salon Presents. 1:26:18 Robert 1:26:20 is going to be speaking. Robert and I 1:26:22 talked today. Robert has been doing 1:26:25 motion graphics and 1:26:29 event management and just like big scale 1:26:32 big events for and and finishing feature 1:26:36 films and just doing motion graphics for 1:26:38 decades 1:26:41 and then AI came around 1:26:44 and in in that business what motion 1:26:47 graphics if you're like a motion 1:26:48 graphics guy right now and you're 1:26:50 looking at what's happening with AI 1:26:51 video you should be pooping your pants, 1:26:53 right? And when I talked to him today, I 1:26:56 was like I was like, "What's your 1:26:59 relationship with?" Like, you know, you 1:27:01 put in 30 years of your life into doing 1:27:03 things a certain way and now, and his 1:27:06 point was, I just I have all these 1:27:08 ideas. AI just lets me get these ideas 1:27:11 out of my head. 1:27:14 He's like, I [ __ ] love it. 1:27:17 He's not He's not tied to how he does 1:27:20 something. 1:27:22 What he's tied to, what he's clear about 1:27:24 is 1:27:27 I can now do [ __ ] 1:27:31 He had a buddy 1:27:34 has a buddy. I think he's this is what 1:27:36 he's going to show us on Tuesday night. 1:27:41 That's starting a uh 1:27:44 um a spice rub company, 1:27:49 you know, like like dry rubs. And and 1:27:52 and 1:27:53 the buddy came up with like a little 1:27:55 chili cartoon character, right? Like 1:27:58 it's a little dude. 1:28:01 And Robert over the weekend 1:28:05 created an entire marketing campaign. 1:28:08 Not even a campaign, an entire 1:28:12 just everything. He created four other 1:28:15 characters or four total characters for 1:28:16 the four different rubs. He created a 1:28:18 world that they live in. He created a 1:28:21 children's 1:28:23 movie, an adult version of the movie. He 1:28:26 created songs, 40 45 songs 1:28:30 about chili rubs and hot chili. I don't 1:28:34 [ __ ] know. Over the weekend, he took 1:28:37 a single character and built an entire 1:28:39 [ __ ] brand execution out of it. 1:28:44 That it'll probably take this guy a year 1:28:46 to deal with. He did it over a weekend. 1:28:52 So, that's who's going to be speaking 1:28:53 there. like who speaks at the present 1:28:55 meetings are people that have got some 1:28:57 version of this figured out. 1:29:00 So you should be at that. So right here, 1:29:02 AI salon presents in in the in the in 1:29:04 the community thing. Click on that. Say 1:29:07 yes, I'm going to go to that. There's a 1:29:10 community feed where you can just show 1:29:11 off [ __ ] that you're doing or talk about 1:29:13 things or ask questions. There's a 1:29:14 community chat. 1:29:16 There's announcements for what's coming 1:29:18 up 1:29:21 in the play and create area. Look what I 1:29:24 made. You can go show off your work. 1:29:25 Show off your songs or your pictures or 1:29:27 your movies. AI learning lab. That's us. 1:29:29 We have our own space. You can just go 1:29:31 hang out and make fun of me. Let's see 1:29:33 how far down we have to go before 1:29:35 there's there's a version of me. 1:29:40 You can go you can go make fun of me. 1:29:41 Why would you not do that? 1:29:46 Um, and then there's this thing called 1:29:47 the mastermind. And the mastermind is a 1:29:49 subscription area. So the AI salon is 1:29:51 free. You get all this stuff for free. 1:29:54 There's a subscription area and in the 1:29:57 subscription area, one of the things 1:29:58 that we've designed is a thing called 1:30:00 the AI salon mastermind practice. 1:30:04 And if you're a member of the 1:30:06 mastermind, you get to come to these 1:30:08 weekly meetings that I host with, well, 1:30:10 Liz Miller Gersfeld really leads them, 1:30:12 but I co-host with her. 1:30:15 And the people in there are designing a 1:30:17 daily practice around how they use AI. 1:30:20 The entire thing is about stripping away 1:30:24 all the chaos and freneticism of trying 1:30:26 to keep up with AI and getting back to 1:30:28 who am I? What do I care about? What do 1:30:32 I want? 1:30:34 And then once you understand that, then 1:30:36 figuring out how you use AI to amplify 1:30:39 that. It's amazing. the great repurpose 1:30:42 that we talked a lot about tonight. 1:30:44 There's going to be a whole area in the 1:30:46 mastermind with all sorts of different 1:30:48 resources and ways to connect people and 1:30:52 places for coaches to help other people 1:30:55 and people who need help to get coaches. 1:30:57 It's just we're figuring out all the 1:30:59 ways we can sort of blow the doors off 1:31:01 this idea of the great repurpose. That's 1:31:04 all going to be within the mastermind. 1:31:05 So, so learn about the mastermind and 1:31:08 join it and come come tomorrow. We've 1:31:11 got a meeting tomorrow of the practice 1:31:13 lab. So, 1:31:16 um yeah, go join the salon. All right, 1:31:19 that's it. That's all I got. That's it. 1:31:21 I'm I'm leaving. 1:31:24 I'm leaving on a jet. Don't know when 1:31:28 I'll be back again. Yeah. Um, 1:31:40 anything else, questions, thoughts? 1:31:43 Thanks, bro. Great stuff. Thanks, Music 1:31:45 Dave Dreamer. Please, please join the 1:31:47 salon and please keep coming back here. 1:31:49 The whole purpose, 1:31:51 what you might have noticed tonight, if 1:31:54 if I think you were here for most of the 1:31:56 night, is I said we're going to go look 1:31:58 at X tonight. We're going to go learn 1:32:00 about some new AI stuff. Sometimes we do 1:32:02 that stuff, sometimes we don't. 1:32:06 The purpose of this channel is not about 1:32:09 me. 1:32:11 I'm not going to necessarily teach you 1:32:13 anything. I don't know that I really 1:32:14 have a ton to teach you. 1:32:17 What this is ultimately about is as I'm 1:32:19 babbling on about whatever the [ __ ] I'm 1:32:21 talking about, this is a this is a a 1:32:24 space for you to just be in the 1:32:27 conversation. 1:32:29 And maybe if I say something and it 1:32:31 triggers you, you're like, "Oh yeah, let 1:32:32 me go try that tool." And while I'm 1:32:34 talking, you're over in Suno making a 1:32:36 song going, "Oh [ __ ] I didn't know it 1:32:39 had a a mixer in it and a I can split 1:32:42 these into tracks. Holy [ __ ] what do I 1:32:45 do with that?" And you look up and then 1:32:47 I'm doing something else. You're like, 1:32:48 "Oh, that reminds me." Look over just 1:32:51 being in the conversation 1:32:53 is what this is about because you can't 1:32:56 keep up with it. 1:32:58 You can't master it. 1:33:02 The only thing you can do is kind of be 1:33:04 on the ride. 1:33:06 Like we're we're 1:33:08 what this is is like a little surfing 1:33:10 club. There's this tsunami coming. This 1:33:13 [ __ ] radical, 1:33:16 you know, 1:33:18 never seen before on Earth tsunami 1:33:20 coming fast. 1:33:23 And we're like renting surfboards and 1:33:25 people like I don't know how to surf. 1:33:27 It's like, "Okay, it's whatever. Come 1:33:28 on. We'll teach you how to paddle. All 1:33:31 you have to do is this. Okay, I can do 1:33:32 this. I'm tired. Keep doing this." 1:33:36 Right? 1:33:39 Some of us are surfing the little waves. 1:33:41 Some of them are surfing the big waves. 1:33:44 But we're all just out in these [ __ ] 1:33:45 choppy, weirdass waters waiting for this 1:33:48 thing to come. Does it come this year? 1:33:50 Does it come next year? Does it come 1:33:51 five years from now? I don't [ __ ] 1:33:52 know. No one knows. 1:33:55 But I know that I'd much rather be on a 1:33:57 surfboard in the water than I would be 1:33:59 on the shore. 1:34:02 So that's what this is about. So just 1:34:04 keep coming back. All right. 1:34:09 All right, 1:34:11 Kyle, you spent three years teaching us. 1:34:14 You'll be teaching. Exactly. 1:34:18 Finding our way together. That's it. All 1:34:21 right. All right, everyone. Um, have a 1:34:24 good night. Tomorrow is Thursday 1:34:26 evening. I don't think anything's going 1:34:28 on. Yep. Tomorrow night. All right. See 1:34:31 you guys later. Bye.