11/5/2025 - When AI Gets Good, Your Taste and Intentionality Will Become Your Most Valuable Skills

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1. 0:03[singing] Champy, come here. [music]
2. 0:19>> [music] >> It's not [singing] simple to say that most days I don't recognize me that these shoes and this apron that place and its
3. 0:33patrons have taken more than I gave them. [music] It's not [singing] easy to know. I'm not like I used to be.
4. 0:50I was never attention sweet center. I still remember that girl. She's imperfect, but she tries. [singing] She is good, but he lies.
5. 1:07She is hard on herself. She [singing and music] is broken and won't ask for help. She [singing] is messy, [music] but she's kind.
6. 1:21She's lonely most of [singing] time. She's all of this mixed up and baked beautiful [singing] pie. She's gone, but she used [music] to be
7. 1:36mine. [music] And it's not what I asked for. Sometimes life [music] just slips in through the back door to
8. 1:49carves out a person. Makes you believe it's all true. [music] Now I've got you. It's [singing] not what I asked for.
9. 2:03Oh, good lord, good people. It is Wednesday. What are we going to do tonight? We're going to talk about something. intentionality.
10. 2:12We're going to talk about inspiration. We're going to talk about intent. Yeah. Well, this was called the AI
11. 2:21learning lab. And uh I was hoping that we could learn about artificial intelligence tools. I I uh u understood
12. 2:29that there there would be lessons. Um I [clears throat and cough] excuse me. I uh was hoping there there
13. 2:39would be lessons about about artificial int intelligence. It's not simple to say that most days I don't recognize me
14. 2:55that these shoes and this apron that place and its patrons have taken more than I gave them. We might just sing songs. [music]
15. 3:08We might talk about a tool. [music] [music]
16. 3:50>> [music] >> Um, [music] so we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Tik Tok's algorithm because I'm all pissed off at it.
17. 4:15[music] Yeah, I know. We got six people. Yep. [music]
18. 4:31[music] [music] Hey, hey, hey.
19. 4:48[music] >> [music] [music]
20. 5:07[music] [music]
21. 5:24[music] >> So, here's a question. [music] Are AI tools using us
22. 5:38or are we using them? >> [music]
23. 5:58[music] >> Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
24. 6:16Let me cause you a sorrow. Didn't mean to cause you in the pain. Only one more time and see you laughing.
25. 6:33Only I want to see you laughing in that purple rain. Purple rain. Purple rain. [music] Purple rain. Purple rain.
26. 6:48[music] Purple [singing] rain. Purple rain. [music]
27. 7:12>> [music] [music]
28. 7:27[music] [music] >> Mary Mary, what's happening? What's
29. 7:42shaking? What's going down? Princess AI is here. Didn't realize we had princesses. Real life princesses. I'm
30. 7:50ugly and in need of AI to beautify me. We can do that. [music] We can definitely do that. [music] When we first started, I was on GPT
31. 8:04daily. Now it use it use it twice weekly at best. Interesting. People are having the machines use us people. That's interesting.
32. 8:21[music] You know, it's funny. I'm in a I am in a
33. 8:37in a philosophical uh [music]
34. 8:54[music] I'm in a philosophical exploration I guess is the best way to put it. And
35. 9:10I'm thinking a lot about [laughter] here's a weird a weird challenge for this channel. Well, for for me, for this
36. 9:23channel, probably for people watching it. Um, I'm finally be able to make videos and I look horrible and sort of too [laughter] cameos.
37. 9:41Okay, so here's here's what you do, EPI. Um, take one of your shitty pictures or just take one of your photos. Go to
38. 9:50Gemini and then have it put you in a bunch of different images. Go to chat GPT, have it put you in a bunch of
39. 9:57images. Go to Idog, have it put you in a bunch of images, and then go to Midjourney and and use its character
40. 10:04reference if you've got licenses to those. Um, just go to a bunch of different image generators that that you
41. 10:11can upload a character reference to. Um, and then just tell it to make you different kinds of characters. Like,
42. 10:19make me a cowboy, make me a whatever, James Bond, make me a right. And somewhere in there, it'll make a version
43. 10:26of you that's like the better looking version of you. Like what I experience is it either makes me like squared
44. 10:33jawed, chisel jawed, you know, modelrific, or I'm like 400 pounds and just tubard. Uh, and it there doesn't seem to be much
45. 10:45in between. It'll occasionally make something that looks kind of like me and I'm like, well, that's disappointing.
46. 10:49So, so just go to some other tools and then once you have that set, then you can go back and use that to go back to
47. 10:55Sora and use that as your thing. Although, no, sorry, you've got to record the the video. Okay. So, here's
48. 11:02what you need to do. Um, film yourself from above your ey line. Make sure the camera's above your ey line, not
49. 11:08shooting up from below. If you're holding your phone down here and shooting up, it'll make your bottom of
50. 11:13your head look bigger. So, go from your eyes down. Um, get yourself in good lighting. So, maybe outside in the shade. Um,
51. 11:27or do it inside where you've got some side light so it creates some definition on your face. You could go the theatrical makeup
52. 11:38route. [laughter] Give yourself chiseled chiseled things or just accept that you're ugly and Sora is going to [ __ ] you up. [laughter]
53. 11:50That's the other the other way is to surrender to to your god-given talents. [laughter]
54. 12:05Oh man. Anyway, what I was saying is uh [music]
55. 12:22um because I'm in this philosophical deep dive like I've just been in there like I've got a lot a lot I'm thinking
56. 12:29about and I've got a lot I'm thinking about with AI and I took most of the year of 2025 to be in kind of a transition year.
57. 12:45And it it was transitioning from what this channel used to be, what I used to talk about, what the salon used to be,
58. 12:51what I want it to be. So, I've been I've been thinking a lot this year about what like what is what is the next phase of
59. 13:01of AI for me, for the community, just in general, for society. Um, you know, we talked about 2025 being a year when the tools would get good
60. 13:13enough that, you know, you couldn't really tell them apart from reality. I think we're close. I think if you use
61. 13:20this these tools with any regularity, there's still a lot of jank in it. Um, but if you've got someone who really
62. 13:26knows how to prompt and really knows how to curate images and really knows how to edit and really knows how to write, you
63. 13:32can get these tools to do some pretty remarkable stuff. Um, I think next year is the year where AI kind of escapes the browser.
64. 13:49And so we're going to we're going to have a lot more to do with agents and agents doing stuff on our behalf and long complicated
65. 13:59chains chains of creation that we're not involved in. like we'll kick it off and it will go do [ __ ] and then we've got to tell it if it's
66. 14:09good or not. I think there's still going to be that next year, but it's like next year's going to get weird.
67. 14:16And so, and so that's just next year. And then I go three years out and it's like all the tools do everything really
68. 14:26well and the agents chain them together really well and they'll just go off and do work and they can just anything we
69. 14:34want for the most part it will go off and do. And so, so as I kind of play out to five years,
70. 14:52our job, if we're going to be doing [ __ ] in AI, is going to have nothing to do with the tool. It's going to have all to do with you.
71. 15:06Like what are your goals? What are your inspirations? What are your tastes? Who do you want to have an impact on?
72. 15:18Do you want to be a star? Do you want to make a difference for underprivileged kids in your neighborhood?
73. 15:25Like there's no wrong answer, right? It's what what people get passionate about. like Brandon put together this um life after snap chat GPT.
74. 15:37He's a sweet guy. He saw that there was a pending challenge coming and that people might be looking for resources and struggling.
75. 15:46And so he thought, "Oh, I know I can put this together." And technically what he did was he got some data and put it into a GPT and
76. 15:55wrote some code. Wrote some system instructions. not code but English as code and it helps people find resources but because he's him
77. 16:09he did it in such a way that it's got compassion and it's got empathy and when someone says hey I'm struggling
78. 16:20here I need help it doesn't just say here's your list of resources like a Google search it says hey I'm sorry to
79. 16:26hear that that's really rough like we're we're going to we're going to get you through this. And and so why that thing has
80. 16:37some specialness to it is is not just the intent, not just his ability to code it and know how to do that and that you
81. 16:45can do that, but his ability to take who he is and who what his values are and layer them in there. And those are the things, those little
82. 16:56touches are going to be the things that rise people's work above the noise. Tik Tok pin compassion coded. Yeah, I
83. 17:08you know I would say that that that GPT is a reflection of Brandon, right? It's a reflection of who he is. And I
84. 17:19know I'm I know you're here, Brandon. I'm talking about you as if you're not here. But why that puts me in a quandry right now
85. 17:29is right now it's still there's still a lot to learn. There's still a lot of tools to learn. There's still a lot of things to keep up
86. 17:36with. I can't keep up with them anymore. You can't keep up with them anymore. Tik Tok question. Whatever happened to emotional support
87. 17:50pie? Yeah. Well, you know, I forget what the number was. Uh, OpenAI put out a report on how people are using Chat GBT
88. 18:00and a significant percentage of people use Chat GBT for some sort of therapy and and emotional support. So I it it's
89. 18:09a huge use case of these large language models is emotional support to the point that um open AAI developed a specific model that if if
90. 18:24chat GPT senses that you are you know going off the rails becoming a danger to yourself or others it actually
91. 18:32routes you to a customtrained model for for dealing with that. So, you know, they recognize that this is something they're going to have to
92. 18:43deal with. But I think I think when you have an entity that that responds with compassion, responds with empathy,
93. 18:51human beings are just naturally going to anthrop anthropomorphize this thing that is increasingly human. New Tik Tok
94. 19:00questions. Are AI trusted with too much information? Um, yes. Just like Google and Facebook are trusted with too much of our personal data,
95. 19:12but they gave us those things for free. So, we just said, "Oh, yeah, you can have my stuff." That's what's happening with the large
96. 19:21language models. They're taking not only our data but you know our deepest thoughts and our medical conditions and [laughter]
97. 19:28our you know deepest whatever journal entries and processing them and ingesting them and so yeah so the answer is yes.
98. 19:41But then my question back to you is is that going to make you not use it? And I think the answer according to 7 or 800
99. 19:50million weekly users of Chat GBT is ah no, I'll just keep using it. [laughter] We're we're in a very weird
100. 20:03we're in a very weird data reality. And the weird data reality is this. Um, all the bitching about AI data safety.
101. 20:18Dear diary, today [laughter] Kyle answered my question. Exactly. Exactly. And at some point I'll be in there
102. 20:26talking about it and like my quote will come back to me. Your your quote about me will come back to me. Bend the ark. Right.
103. 20:33Well, yeah. Yeah, I mean to a degree like the Okay, so this is so where I want to take the conversation in this channel
104. 20:45really is about bending the arc, right? It really is about the model making companies are going to do what they're going to do and we can
105. 20:59have all sorts of conversations about are they using our data poorly or rightly or whatever. Did they train them
106. 21:05unethically or ethically? Those are all choices we can make. But in the end, we're going to have whatever tools we're going to have. And
107. 21:14people are not going to not use AI. Some will, but increasingly people are going to use AI. And so the tools are going to have the
108. 21:23biases in them. The tools are going to have the inequities in them. The tools are going to have the imperfections in
109. 21:28them. Even when they're super good, they're going to have stuff. But we get to choose how we use them,
110. 21:38right? We get to choose. Brandon got to choose that he wanted to code that thing in such a way that it gave whoever was using it some some
111. 21:52peace in the middle of what's got to be [ __ ] terrifying. I can't feed my kids. I guess I'll go to this [ __ ] chat GPT thing
112. 22:06that I read about. [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] technologist. And they go in there and they find after uh what is it? After the snap. After snap
113. 22:25help after snap. They go into that thing and they like click a button that says I lost my SNAP benefits and its response
114. 22:34is, "Oh, I'm really sorry to hear that. That's got to be really tough." Huh? You're not used to computers responding like like that, right?
115. 22:45And so where Brandon has naturally evolved in his use of AI is that he's kind of incorporate he's kind of internalized
116. 23:00the capability to the point that he can just be him [clears throat] and then something comes up and he's
117. 23:09like, "Ah, I want to make a game for my kid that they just invented on the beach or I want to make uh I want to
118. 23:15illustrate a book with them or I want to help them write a song or I want to write this snap thing." He can just be
119. 23:20in the world and kind of have his intentionality and go, "Oh, okay. I'm I'm going to turn that into something
120. 23:26now because I'm nimble enough with these AI tools to be able to do that. And I think that that pivot from I want to use chat GPT
121. 23:43which is a tool-led conversation to I've got these values. I see this thing in the world I want to affect in some way
122. 23:53and now I'm going to figure out which of these AI tools or not AI tools I'm going to stitch together to go solve that problem.
123. 24:01That's a human-led approach. What I'm struggling with is I don't know how to do both. I don't know how to talk about the human-ledd
124. 24:14stuff without it sounding like some sort of mambby pami Tony Robbins self-help course [laughter]
125. 24:31[laughter] but in the end each of us being conscious and intentional first what am I trying to do in the world. What do I want to do? I
126. 24:44want to survive. I want to provide for my family. I want to inspire people. I want to entertain people. Whatever the thing is,
127. 24:55and then we figure out which tools can we use. How do we apply them? [music] Wait, this is not an AI self-help
128. 25:04session. It totally is. [laughter] Tony Robbins has such charisma. [laughter] I met Tony Robbins. I plead the fifth
129. 25:20Becky Rue. [laughter] Listen, man. He's fig he's figured some [ __ ] out that man. More power to him. [music] He got my money in the 90s.
130. 25:37>> [music] [music]
131. 25:57>> Who are we talking to today? I was talking to someone today. Might have been Daisy. Might have been Lunishtick.
132. 26:07in one of our management meetings for the salon today, um was talking about the energy that we had in the early days of the salon when it
133. 26:16was just a Discord channel and everyone was in there and everyone was there was like a a frothiness about it and
134. 26:27she was like, you know, how do we get back to that? How do we get back to that energy? And I don't think we can.
135. 26:35I think that energy was the energy of chat GPT launched and it was this thing that was unlike anything anyone had ever
136. 26:44seen before. And and so there was there was the positive equivalent of a panic. Oh my god, I got to I we got to
137. 26:52figure this out. We got to figure everything out about it. And then it quickly went from yeah, this is just 3.5. wait till you hear about
138. 27:00four and you're like four four is going to be so much better and it was just it was literally like [laughter]
139. 27:08we were a bunch of like piranhas like just chomping at any knowledge that came out and now we've got a dozen or I don't
140. 27:18[ __ ] 20 25 large language models open source and commercial and specialized ones and research ones. We got all these
141. 27:27different things and they're all really [ __ ] good. And at this point we're all cynical. We're not like G
142. 27:34cuz it's like they're good enough. They're good enough. Is it going to be remarkable when they're better? Maybe.
143. 27:42Maybe. Maybe not. We don't know. But that that intensity of those early days, for one thing, it's not
144. 27:55sustainable because it's all it's all an adrenaline response, right? It's all cortisol going, you'd better keep up
145. 28:03with this or you're going to be obliterated. And now we're three years in and we haven't been obliterated. Like it's starting to cost jobs.
146. 28:11But we're also certainly in this group more educated, more thoughtful. Hey, how do I share your YouTube link on an iPhone? You go
147. 28:25you go to the YouTube app. Mo the YouTube link. I don't know. I know how to share a video. Oh, it's just it's just uh Oh, click
148. 28:36share from the player. Yeah, but that shares a video. If you want to share my channel, it's it'sarnarninglab-ai.
149. 28:45So, someone could just go to YouTube and type in atarninglab-ai and that'll share my YouTube channel. [music]
150. 29:03How many of us Yeah. slept at the beginning? We were just creating. Yeah. I remember um Corey, I remember one
151. 29:12night I woke up at 4 in the morning with an idea. What was it? Was it an app idea? No, cuz vibe coding wasn't a thing yet.
152. 29:23Maybe it was a business idea. But I woke up at at 4 in the morning. I'm like, I got I got to do this, you know. And I flipped open my
153. 29:33computer. I could barely focus on it because it was 4 in the morning. and I'm like in chat GPT or wherever I was
154. 29:38midjourney or something like that. I don't know what I just I just remember distinctly waking up and having that.
155. 29:45So that phase of the AI roll out, the generative AI roll out like that's gone. That's never coming back. We'll never
156. 29:53have that intensity again. Um there was a magicalness to it there. There was there was some magic to it. Um, it was super intense.
157. 30:07Um, and I think that carried us for maybe a year, year and a half. And now we're coming up, we're in November. So, November 30th is going to
158. 30:15be three years. And this year, Schnit's gotten real. Like, I'm a little not shook. I'm a little blown away
159. 30:30that the music industry seems to be in real time shifting from we'll never use those devil tools [laughter]
160. 30:40to Yeah, it's a it's a tool you can use in production. You know, Universal Music Group just bought Udo. Well, they had a lawsuit.
161. 30:49They sued them and then probably settled for we won't put you in jail if you just give us your technology and let us determine the rules.
162. 31:03Which by the way on Ude um once they made that announcement you could no longer download your songs. And
163. 31:13then Monday for 48 hours they turned on downloads and then they turned it off I guess Tuesday night.
164. 31:20I went in there Monday after they turned it on and I went and I looked at all my songs that I had created in in Udo
165. 31:29and I thought do I really want to download all these? And I was like no I don't care. I don't [ __ ] care.
166. 31:38I hadn't built a career around it and I didn't I didn't download a single song. I'm like, "Fuck it. I don't care." Like,
167. 31:45what's going to happen is what's going to happen. I'm using Suno more than I'm using right now. Um I also uh I reached out to producer.ai
168. 31:54um which used to be called Refusion and I said, "Hey, you know, let me into your creative partner program because my
169. 32:00community deserves to be a for me to be able to demo this." So, producer just added a um a video creator. So, you can
170. 32:10you can create songs within it and then you can just turn that song into a music video. Um I don't know how good it is,
171. 32:16but uh they got back to me and said they were going to give me some of that. Mary Corey Sandler, I have some
172. 32:22sourdough starter questions. [laughter] That's fantastic. Teton Todd, me neither. No downloads. [laughter]
173. 32:33This is good. This is good. There's like a gray market of sourdough um starter starter um like little uh little modules
174. 32:43that are being uh transacted off to the side here. That's solid. I like it. I I approve. Um anyway, oh man.
175. 32:57Oh, it's like a new love affair. You get Yeah, you get that energy once. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, when Chat GPT first come
176. 33:03came out, it was this infatuation, right? And that energy lasts how long it lasts. And I, you know, I feel like we
177. 33:12authentically were like high like that for probably a year and 3 months, right? And here's how I'll mark it. Um, November 30th, 22
178. 33:27is when Chat GPT comes out. April of 23 is when GPT4 comes out. November of 23 is when um custom GPTs come out, right?
179. 33:38If four came out and it got better and better over the summer. And then in November, custom GPTs came out. We did GPT for good,
180. 33:48the the last weekend in December 2023, and that was where we had all that energy, all that excitement about GPTs.
181. 33:56And then over the next four to six months when it became clear that the GPT store wasn't going to be the next big thing
182. 34:08our our our adrenaline and our attention started to wayne right and it was just the first sort of realization of like oh
183. 34:17this is now a thing and they're making business decisions and that thing we were promised wasn't there and you know
184. 34:23the thing we were excited about as a community wasn't there. So that's a pretty long love affair, right? A year
185. 34:28and four months, a year and six months to be to have that infatuation there. Um, and then the rest of that year was them
186. 34:38sort of making promises and stuff not really being there. And then this year has been a lot about just every single tool like like this
187. 34:47year I would describe as everyone's copying everyone. Basically, OpenAI is still leading the charge in
188. 35:01terms of what their models do, how their models work, and then they come out with something and then every other frontier
189. 35:08company, including all the Chinese ones, two months later come into parody with with what Open AI launched. So, this
190. 35:17whole year has been they launch something, seven or eight or 10 different other things launch something. It it's happening across the music
191. 35:26companies. It's happening across the image companies. It's happening across the video companies. It's happening
192. 35:31across the large language models. They're they're all just sort of battling for supremacy, but all still
193. 35:37sitting behind open AI, which I find remarkable. You could argue that that Google and Gemini have have kind of
194. 35:46caught up, but I would argue that it's still it's still OpenAI um launching things that are leading the conversation.
195. 35:55and Google is either sort of launching at the same time with something similar or shortly after they launch it, you
196. 36:02know, as good or slightly better. But OpenAI is still leading the conversation. So, we're just in a different phase.
197. 36:12We're in a more mature phase. And so this is where I come back to I don't quite know what what to talk about
198. 36:22because there's a part of me that's like the tools are irrelevant. It really doesn't [ __ ] matter because
199. 36:29they're going to change and they're going to get autonomous and they're just going to we're not going to need to
200. 36:33babysit them as much as we do now. But we still need to babysit them. Like right now they're still shitty and we
201. 36:40still need to babysit them. So, I should be talking about tools to some degree here, but I don't know. That's the
202. 36:46quandry I'm in. I asked chat GPT just now and it told me the account is just shy of 147 weeks old. That's cool.
203. 36:55And how many Wait, yeah, that's three years. That's right, Lyall. Maybe for Genpop, but as a developer, the tools matter a
204. 37:07lot so long as it needs a human in the loop. Well, but I don't know that I don't think I don't know if you're in
205. 37:16San Francisco or not. I don't know if your buddies in San Francisco would agree with you so long as there's a
206. 37:22human in the loop. I don't I don't think they share that same goal. >> I think their goal is let's make these
207. 37:28tools so good that you don't need a human in the loop. And that's where I think they're headed. Now, will will we
208. 37:33get there in the next five years? I don't know. Um but we'll probably get pretty close if not there. So, I've been chat with chatbt a long
209. 37:43time. [music] >> Yeah, that's good, Brandon. I'll get to that.
210. 37:59>> [music] >> Another thing that I've been thinking a lot about is where does inspiration come from with this AI stuff?
211. 38:14Because in the olden timey days, three years ago, [laughter] in the olden timey days, you would get inspired by
212. 38:30whatever life, some crazy ass thought you had. You heard a song and smelled a banana pie and some new idea came to you. And then you would
213. 38:49either take something that you were good at and express that idea through something that you had talent at.
214. 38:56Or you would say, "Oh god, I had an idea for a painting, but I don't know anything about art, but I got to make this painting, so I'm
215. 39:05going to go back to art school." [laughter] Right? I have a vision for macra. I'm I'm gonna get my degree in fiber arts from from
216. 39:17Parsons. [laughter] And you would go off for two years and you would learn about fibers and how to stitch them together and hang them on a
217. 39:27wall. Every time I see a fiber art piece, I'm like, at some point someone's going to have to dust that [ __ ] thing. And
218. 39:35that's going to be a nightmare. [laughter] It's the only thing I think when I see fiber art, it's just like that's going
219. 39:42to be a lot of lot of dust. That thing's going to be full. [laughter] Um but but we now live in this in this
220. 39:58world where we've got these tools that are these instant instant manifestors and these instant reflectors. And so you can go from
221. 40:14so so wait let's let's stick with the the olden timey days. So, if I had an idea in the olden timey days, even if I had talents and skills,
222. 40:24I'd say, "Okay, I've got some vision for a picture I want to make." And then I would go out in the world with a camera
223. 40:30or a phone and I would take a picture of some leaves. And then I would come back and I would load it into Photoshop. And
224. 40:36then I would [ __ ] around with the color tables and I would, you know, layer that on top of two other images. And I would
225. 40:43put the eyes where the leaves were and the tree where the trunk was and the dog with the th right and and I would it there there was
226. 40:53a there was a manifestation process, a creative process to get an idea out of your head that the idea had to be strong
227. 41:02enough to survive the gauntlet of execution. That's [clears throat] there's a new phrase, the gauntlet of execution. I
228. 41:11don't know if you're still here on here, Andy, but gauntlet of execution. That's a good one. Um, in my speeches, I say
229. 41:19inspiration and motivation can only come from focusing forward. Oh, that's interesting. I like that. [music]
230. 41:28Although, I would argue a lot of songs are written about focusing backwards. [laughter] I got in my pickup truck. I saw the note
231. 41:39on the seat. She said she ain't coming back. And now I got to pee. [laughter]
232. 41:55But anyway, back to ideas and inspiration and where it comes from. So you have some idea. And in the olden timey days,
233. 42:04the gauntlet of execution was a kind of filter. It was a kind of filter that said, I'm not going to take ideas that
234. 42:14I don't really resonate with because if if I have an idea and I don't really resonate with it and then I enter the
235. 42:21gauntlet of execution and I'm like, I don't feel like going outside and taking that picture, well then that idea wasn't
236. 42:27strong enough, right? It wasn't strong enough to overcome the resistance. And and a lot of artists would argue that
237. 42:34resistance is required for great creative or for great work that that overcoming the challenge is the is how you get to good work.
238. 42:46Now we live in a world where I can have that idea and I can just literally barf it into chat GPT or midjourney oro
239. 43:00and squit. Out comes a a produced work, right? I want an epic poem about stupid idea. There's an epic poem [clears throat]
240. 43:13written in amic pentameter, right? And so I think you could argue that there's a
241. 43:29cost to inst in instant manifestation which is ideas can get out of your head that aren't strong enough
242. 43:40quite frankly to survive the gauntlet of execution. But there's another side to it, which is this, and this happens on this channel
243. 43:52regularly. If you're in a regular, if you're here at this channel on a regular basis, this happens a lot. Sometimes the
244. 43:59inspiration doesn't come from me. Sometimes I'm just like I I have no inspiration. I'm like, "Oh god, I'm
245. 44:08doing a live. I just told these people I'd show them how to make a song. I don't have a [ __ ] idea. And so I'll go into chat GPT and I and
246. 44:17I'll literally type in I don't have a [ __ ] idea. Give me 20 and it will and then somewhere in those 20 ideas I
247. 44:26like weird Mary happened like this. I was like I came up with some nonsensical prompt that was like give me something with twisted this and
248. 44:35something that and then it spit out a bunch of names and I was reading through the names and one of the names was weird Mary from Cedar Hill
249. 44:50and before that happens someone comments something like we jive it's like jazz it's totally like jazz actually jazz
250. 44:58music that's a really good Jazz music is the closest thing we have in in the nonI world to what I'm talking about,
251. 45:08right? Jazz is absolutely that where the musicians are masters enough of their craft. When jazz musicians are in flow, they're
252. 45:20not thinking about anything. Everything is just a reaction. And so and so now we can do that with with ideiation. And
253. 45:28that's what happens in brainstorming sessions, by the way, when you get connected people that have complimentary
254. 45:34skills in a room together and they're throwing out ideas. Stupid idea, stupid idea back, stupid idea out. Interesting
255. 45:42idea back. Oh, that inspires this. Oh, that's a good idea. Oh, now there's a good idea. Oh, that's a great idea. And
256. 45:48then everyone pounces around the great idea. So that's what happens in brainstorming. That's kind of like jazz. But
257. 45:57but we now have a thing in our computer where we can do that back and forth without anyone else being in the room
258. 46:05and you can get to something quite amazing. Like the weird Mary thing, it was like it came up with that name and I
259. 46:13was like that name's really interesting. Let's go write some lyrics and now let's go to Sununo and like what would that
260. 46:18song sound like? And then we were all kind of jamming, throwing ideas together and that turned into into that crazy thing. So the the the
261. 46:28idea of inspiration right now I think is even changing and maybe part of a daily practice might be every day start with with a non idea
262. 46:45and and keep bouncing it back and forth with AI until it gives you a good idea. So, so basically put a bunch of shitty
263. 46:56ideas into into AI of some form and jam with it until something interesting comes back. That that might be
264. 47:05interesting. Um, looks like we got AM Murphy in the house. What's happening, AM Murphy? AM Murphy and I had a really
265. 47:11fun actually we we wrapped up season zero of the AI readiness podcast today. Um, it was it was good just to to talk
266. 47:19live with with you again. Uh, so good to see you. Um, speaking of Ann Murphy, December 26th and 27th, if you have not
267. 47:31heard, if you've heard this before, go warm up your nachos because they're getting soggy. I told you not to put the
268. 47:37canned cheese on them. I I tell you every week, but you you insist because you're white trash and we know it. Um, AI Festivist is this
269. 47:51remarkable thing we did last year that we're going to do again this year. Last year we had two weeks from the time
270. 47:58we conceived it until the time we launched it. And this this year we have two months [laughter] and it's already
271. 48:04been conceived. Um, so having having that much time is probably it's probably not good. But uh we had a we had a
272. 48:11really good meeting today uh about it. Um it happens on Friday and Saturday between Christmas and New Year's or
273. 48:26whatever other celebration you do. Um it's 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Pacific, so noon to noon Eastern. And you're like, "Wait a minute, 9 to 9,
274. 48:40that's 12 hours." Like, "Yeah, that's Friday." And then we take a 12-h hour nap and we come back Saturday morning
275. 48:49and go from 9 to 9 again. So, it's 24 1-hour sessions over two days with remarkably generous speakers that come
276. 49:00and give their time to teach anyone who wants to come. So, my request is this. Jot down the times and start thinking
277. 49:09about who in your life you want to bring to that. And also start thinking about this. What are the communities that you
278. 49:17think should know about it? Do you know anyone in the press? Like do you know anyone who knows people in magazines or TV?
279. 49:26Because what what struck me is Dan and I were talking today is like we don't brag enough about these remarkable
280. 49:36communities we're a part of. Um and one of my missions in 2026 is to knock that [ __ ] off and start and start
281. 49:47getting us some some visibility because it's a really remarkable community and not enough people know about it. So, if
282. 49:54you know anyone, please reach out to producer Brandon or Vicky Baptiste or myself or Ann Murphy, whoever you know
283. 50:02and just let us know um who we should be talking to to get more people there. All right. Will you have marketing material?
284. 50:11We will. So, right now, Jeie, if you go to the the the website's going to be the same as it was last year, which is uh aifestivist.com.
285. 50:20Right now, it's still got the old the last year's uh stuff on it. So, that'll be updated at some point here. It's it
286. 50:27it's coming. That's fine. Uh but just you can just bookmark that site. So, at some point it'll be updated. But if you
287. 50:33want to see who was there last year and who the speakers were, it's really a remarkable event. Uh G&G on YouTube asked about Perplexity
288. 50:41at the start of the show. Um we can go play with Perplexity. Um let's see. The easiest way to learn is to play. Ask
289. 50:49perplex perplexity what it can do. You'll be reading for a while. The gauntlet of execution. I'll have to add
290. 50:56that one to the list. Who's that? That was Andy. Good. [laughter] Um, do you know anyone who can work with me? I'm so lost. So, J&G,
291. 51:10here's here's [clears throat] the deal. I can work with you right now. Tell me where you're lost and we'll go play.
292. 51:20Um, J&G, one of the things you want to do if you have it, Brandon, if you could pop up the the salon website on the on
293. 51:28the on the TV [clears throat] machine. If you go to community.thesalon.ai, um, join the community, go in and
294. 51:40introduce yourself and go check out the spaces there. um you need to hang out with the people that hang out on this channel. So, one
295. 51:50thing to do is just keep coming back to this. If you're feeling lost right now, you're in the perfect place. I know this
296. 51:57is this is one of those I I I'm telling you, man, this channel's getting like a [ __ ] self-help guru channel. [laughter]
297. 52:05You're exactly where you need to be, J&G. Here's the deal, J&G. We're all lost, okay? Everybody's nobody has the answers. But [laughter]
298. 52:18but that's actually the answer right now. Everyone is lost. In fact, when you said earlier, can someone help me go to
299. 52:26Perplexity and figure this out? My immediate response is I haven't been been to Perplexity in long enough that I
300. 52:34know I don't know how to use it right now. And I used to demo it all the time nightly. [laughter] Hey, Marge. Hey, Marge. Yeah, that
301. 52:42perplexity is that just just go there and use it. All right. Yeah. No, I just I haven't used it in a They moved everything.
302. 52:53Yeah. No, I know. I know. You're watching the wheel. Do you want some more cheese whiz? No, you're good. All right. Yeah, Marge is
303. 53:03sweet. Um, so if you're feeling lost, um, and you want to get good at AI, embrace this feeling because it's, here's the thing. I know I
304. 53:19sound like I'm being flippant. I'm not. Well, no, I am, but it it's out of I I'm laughing at the at the process right now. If you want to
305. 53:32be decent at AI, it is it's a daily practice. You kind of have to just build into your life. Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna feel uncomfortable.
306. 53:43I I'm going to I'm going to feel uncomfortable. I'm going to be in a place of not knowing anything and I'm
307. 53:49just going to go play. I'm just going to go play and I'm going to I'm going to take off. I think one of the things that could be driving
308. 53:57anxiety in you is wanting to accomplish a specific task and not knowing how to use the tools. The tools are weird. And so, so one of
309. 54:08the things we talk about in the AI salon, in fact, Brandon, if you could put up my share screen, we call it the cycle of AI readiness. And
310. 54:19it's this idea of play first, create excellence, and generously lead. The reason to start with play is that [clears throat]
311. 54:32if you just start with thinking about using a computer, how we've historically used them, which is I'm going to take
312. 54:38the processes that I have and I'm going to use this computer to make those processes more efficient. That's where a
313. 54:45lot of people start. So they start down this very narrow lane of of automations or efficiency. The problem with that with generative AI
314. 54:56is that generative AI can do so many things that are not just the thing you know. It can do all these things outside
315. 55:03of what you know. like all those gaps that you have in your knowledge and skill base, you know, you got a you got
316. 55:11two or three at the center that you're really good at these things and then you're sort of good at these things and
317. 55:16then you're kind of crappy at these things and then all the ones out here you're just shitty at, right? That's every human being. [laughter]
318. 55:24Well, AI is really good at all the things. And so what playing looks like is you can h go do stuff you know, but you can
319. 55:37also go to areas of your life where you know you're not good and just see what it can do over there and you're like,
320. 55:41"Oh, I can do that. Wow, that's pretty impressive." And so just playing is just about sort of finding your way in the
321. 55:48dark. Literally just playing until you start to figure out where the boundaries are and you start to figure out what's possible.
322. 55:55And then create excellence is you take what you learn when you've been playing and now you can say, "Okay, now based on
323. 56:01everything I've learned, what do I want to do?" Do you want to just still automate that thing? Great. Then go
324. 56:06automate the [ __ ] out of that thing. But maybe what you want to do is you want to automate that and then do two or three
325. 56:11other things that make that even better. And then generously lead is talk about what you're learning. Share what you've
326. 56:22created, good or bad. Hey, I tried to make this thing and it was a steaming pile of poop, but here it is.
327. 56:28That lets people know, it establishes you as someone who's thinking critically and creatively about how to learn and
328. 56:35master AI. And so what I would encourage you to do is is keep playing like that. Becky Rue third third post um
329. 56:45using chat GPD to track help doctors discover something slowing the healing journey. Yeah. Great. Yeah, a lot of people right now are
330. 56:56they're dealing with especially when it comes to chronic chronic disease, chronic pain, chronic illness, um or hard to diagnose
331. 57:06uh issues. A lot of people are finding chat GPT augmenting the medical community, shall we say? [laughter]
332. 57:16Hey doc, have you run any tests on this particular thing? Oh, what' you do? Chat GPT. All right, I'll run the test. Oh, turns out chat
333. 57:26GPT was right. There's a lot of that going on. All right, I don't know if PNG is still here because I've been talking to them
334. 57:37for a while. Or J&G. Um, J&G, you still here? Because I I would like to be able to go play with a specific question you have.
335. 57:57play with a AI the same way you play with the guitar. Well, you know what's funny, Weaver, is like right now lately, I have been
336. 58:05playing with AI the the way I play my guitar, which is I haven't written a new song in a while. I haven't learned a new
337. 58:12song in a while. And I'm the same way with with AI right now. Like, I kind of have my lanes of the [ __ ] I know how to do.
338. 58:20>> [clears throat] >> Yeah, it's fascinating hearing people talk about I I use Chat GPT every day, multiple times a day, and now I use it
339. 58:28like twice a week. Yeah, that feels familiar. But again, so again, like everything keeps circling back to I think we need
340. 58:43to spend more time on really articulating what are your values? Like what are you trying to do in the world? What what difference are
341. 58:52you trying to make? I've been asking AI forums to teach me according to my personality. It's kind of funny. That's
342. 58:58good. I'm so h happy to be answering all of my internal questions against a cascade of against the cascade. Hard to know your value. Um
343. 59:12yeah. Yeah. That's I mean that's [ __ ] life, isn't it? I talk about this every [ __ ] day. [laughter]
344. 59:26I think Andy's probably tired of hearing it at this point. [laughter] Oh my god. My doc asked me if I minded if she took
345. 59:40notes with AI. Do I mind? No. I want you to take advice from AI doc. [laughter]
346. 1:00:00Let's even though J&G is not here anymore or it's possible that our our comments just stopped. Would someone on
347. 1:00:07YouTube post a comment? We only have 26 people there. I love it, man. It's been so long that people haven't
348. 1:00:13got to internalize how absolutely badass we are. [laughter] AI explore perplexity AI. Okay, let's jump over.
349. 1:00:30By the way, this is the GPT that Brandon created. If you know anyone that is at risk of losing SNAP benefits, the GPT that he
350. 1:00:42created is called Help After SNAP. Um, this is the one that, you know, has got this, you know, warmness to it, this
351. 1:00:51empathy and compassion to it. Um, and will actually help find local services based on where someone is. Um,
352. 1:01:03posting a comment for you. texting link in community feed and salon. Okay, so if you go to the AI salon down the left
353. 1:01:10hand side there's an area called community. The second link there is called community feed and the link to
354. 1:01:15that custom GPT is in there. [snorts] [clears throat] Okay, let's go to perplexity. Perplexity Plexity AI perplexity spaces
355. 1:01:32create a space. I guess that's like a project. Didn't they have pages? Download the Comet browser. Comet and perplexity pro are free for a
356. 1:01:49year with PayPal, which how do you do that again? You you go to PayPal and then click on click on offers and then yeah, you
357. 1:02:00connect it to Perplexity and they'll give you a year. And I think Venmo is doing this also. Um, okay. So, let me talk a little bit about
358. 1:02:09what what Perplexity is. So, Perplexity is like chat GPT. Um, but unlike ChatGpt, they decided to make research and and
359. 1:02:21web searching a core part of the large language model experience. So, one of the things you that's that's fun to do
360. 1:02:30with perplexity is is research things. So, um let's see. I'd like to know the history
361. 1:02:44of peanut brittle and toffee. [laughter]
362. 1:02:59>> [laughter] >> to feffy. Okay. So, oh, look. And there it goes. So, coco and heart. So, there's the answer. Peanut brittle. Oh, that was
363. 1:03:12fast. Is it still? Yeah. Okay. So, it's off doing it's off doing research. And let's see. Can I turn this into a page?
364. 1:03:23Does it still have pages? Upgrade to max. Create projects from scratch.
365. 1:03:39Search. [gasps] Huh. I don't One of my favorite features. They It looks like they killed I wonder if that's what's called spaces.
366. 1:03:55Quick, let's make a Gemma slideshow about it. You used to be able to turn turn this into like a magazine article. Mark down tax
367. 1:04:25for pro. It's 20 bucks a month. Ask perplexity. That's funny. I should um I go back. Oh. Um, let's see.
368. 1:04:42Doesn't Perplexity as a feature have a feature called pages?
369. 1:05:10It might [snorts] be I guess pages might be although it says I have a pro accountation account preferences. is
370. 1:05:36didn't I call this didn't I predict this that I would come to perplexity and not know how to use it. [laughter]
371. 1:05:49Oh my god. Gemini is working hard on competing with gamma for in the presentation space. Becky Rue also apparently Imagine 4 is the image
372. 1:06:02app to beat. Use it for creating a nano banana for editing. Yeah, and I hear Nano Banana 2.0 nose coming out.
373. 1:06:16And apparently November 18th is uh is um Gemini 3. >> Hey. >> Yeah. So, I'm on the Perplexity Pages
374. 1:06:30help center um reading the instruction manual because one of us asked you. Um yeah, and it's saying that uh if you
375. 1:06:37enter any prompt, you watch your page take shape with a comprehensive draft, then you can customize the content,
376. 1:06:44tweak the formatting, and add multimedia elements to make it uniquely yours. So, apparently it is just >> it's responses just became pages.
377. 1:06:54>> Yes. And I think spaces is the new kind of pages. >> Oh, really? Create a space. But I used to have a bunch of pages. Do
378. 1:07:08I like I wonder if they're gone. It ate my It It ate all my stuff. Let's see. Discover for you.
379. 1:07:27So this is dynamic news generation based on my preferences. That's kind of cool finance.
380. 1:07:45Yeah, actually, you know, um if you hover over the home, you should be able to access your library. >> Ah, media apps. Is
381. 1:08:01>> it possible that you had a different account? >> Nope. Nope. That's my account. Although it's possible. I I don't know. I don't know.
382. 1:08:13That's about as much troubleshooting as I can offer. >> Yeah, that's good. Thanks. Um, here's a here's a really good lesson. I I'm
383. 1:08:22giving you a good lesson right now. Here's the good lesson. If you don't use a tool regularly, don't assume that you
384. 1:08:30know how it works. [laughter] If you if you've got a channel that where you've established yourself as an expert who knows how [ __ ] works,
385. 1:08:45don't go to a tool you haven't been to in six months. [laughter] You're welcome. All right. [ __ ] it. We're not building
386. 1:08:56anything tonight. [laughter] Could you talk about the tools? Apparently no. Apparently, the answer is
387. 1:09:04no, I can't. I think I think that I am I I think here's what I'm clear about. I'm clear that this week my brain is not in
388. 1:09:14a in a place where I can do anything productive. Although, I would argue that figuring out what the [ __ ] we're doing
389. 1:09:20with our humanity is pretty [ __ ] productive. Um, I'm gonna crack this nut. I I really am. I'm going to crack what it means to be
390. 1:09:32a professional who is AI literate in this world and and I'm determined to crack a way to
391. 1:09:49make it easy for us as a community to know what to do. What makes you think you can do that, Mr. Smarty pants.
392. 1:10:00I don't know. Cuz I'm passionate about it. You're passionate about pumpkin varieties. I'm passionate about
393. 1:10:09humanity using new technology as tools for self-expression. If anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them. You can take a peek at more
394. 1:10:24Eloiseas in practice. Oh, that's cool. In the practice area, I will definitely do that. Perplexity AI demo. Ask about features.
395. 1:10:34No, I'm not talking to AI tonight. [laughter] I'm pissed off that they took away the the one thing I used to like to demo
396. 1:10:44that is gone and all of my things that I made in it are gone. So, I'm cranky. [laughter] [ __ ] perplexity. I'm going to get into
397. 1:10:54the uh I'm going to get into the producer AI um creative partner program and then we're going to start making movies. [laughter]
398. 1:11:05Oh, in irregulars. They are my practice but in irregulars. All right, let's go look at Corey's Eloise Pitches.
399. 1:11:15Eloise pitches AI learning lab. Oh, here they are. Eloise is thriving. Nice. So, Corey, what was the um Can I just go right? Yeah, these are
400. 1:11:31great. Oh, I'm not sharing them, am I? Um, so these are from Corey Sandler. So, Corey Sandler, if you don't know, she's
401. 1:11:41an amazing [clears throat] artist and musician and chef, cook, cook, chef, someone who makes food lovingly.
402. 1:11:50um makes beautiful pottery. So if you go to core sandlerpottery.com I think or corey sandler.com. I guess she's got both is my guess.
403. 1:12:01And she does work with um with AI that's just very very thoughtful and very when we were all when we were all
404. 1:12:13teaching each other how to use these tools and how we use the tools. Corey was Corey was one of those people that when she shared her
405. 1:12:23like how she did what she did, it just blew me away cuz she would she would sort of get an image that I
406. 1:12:30would think would be so beautiful that it didn't need refinement and then she would just dig and dig and dig and dig
407. 1:12:37and just run deep deep deep deep down these sort of creative refinements. And so I guess she's doing that again now with Eloise.
408. 1:12:48This lovely lass. It's very cool. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Silverf Fox loving producer AI. Yeah,
409. 1:13:01producer AI is really cool. It really is. It really is a good a good thing. It's a groova. It's groova, I tell you. Um,
410. 1:13:35I just So, what are your top five nowadays? Um, chat GPT still at the top,
411. 1:13:55Suno for music, Midjourney for images, midjourney for video. Um, I think the Sora app and the little, um,
412. 1:14:10cameos are quite fun. I think they're good entertainment when I do them. For voice, I use Cartisia. For Avatar
413. 1:14:25animation, I use Hedra. H E D R A. For coding, I use lovable, but I don't I don't do a lot of coding. And and to be
414. 1:14:36fair to myself, I haven't really taken the time to learn cursor or one of the more robust ones because I just don't have the patience
415. 1:14:44for it. So, I tend to make kind of throwaway apps in lovable right now. But that's okay. Like I like I feel like
416. 1:14:54like like lovable apps to me right now feel like the coding equivalent of um what do they call them? Casual games,
417. 1:15:04you know, on your iPhone. Those stupid games where you just like shoot a basketball into a hoop endlessly.
418. 1:15:09There's like there's no game loop. It's literally just dare. [laughter] Those kind of games. I feel like that's
419. 1:15:17what lovable lovable app development is. It's just like you sort of make this thing that's like it's fine and then you just move on
420. 1:15:26[laughter] and I know there's other ways to use it. That's how I use it right now. Um the the the one that that I am
421. 1:15:43I'm trying to think of the ones that I'm really impressed by recently. Um, GenSpark for me is one that I find
422. 1:15:51very impressive. Producer.ai I find really impressive just because it's a it's a chat interface to music. You can
423. 1:16:01just talk to it kind of like you're talking to a producer, hence the name or that you are the producer. Um, I think that the Gemini suite of
424. 1:16:14products are getting really good. So, gemini.google.com, aistudio.google.com, their vibecoding app is really good.
425. 1:16:26Um, labs.google.com has a bunch of really cool tools you can go play with. That's where Notebook LM came out of.
426. 1:16:32Notebook LM is one that I use. So, there's So, my top five, what was that 15? My top five is the top 15. Top 15. [laughter]
427. 1:16:43I'm hooked on the Gen Spark browser. I see. I haven't even played with the Gen Spark browser. That's a whole another
428. 1:16:48area. There's a whole other area that I have not gotten my head around and that's um AI browsers. So, you've got
429. 1:16:56Perplexity Comet, you've got the Gen Spark browser, you've got the OpenAI browser, you've got who else has got one? Um
430. 1:17:05well, Google has one called Chrome. [laughter] Um, GPT online browser has serious security issues right now. Yeah, I know.
431. 1:17:17All of them do. What? Are you kidding me? They They all have s serious security issues right now. It's just I said this the other night. I
432. 1:17:28feel like we're in, if you were alive in the '9s, there was like a four-year period where CDROM development was all the rage and
433. 1:17:36everyone's like, "You got to get into CDROMs, man." and all the publishing companies were getting into CDROMs. And
434. 1:17:42all the B2B data companies were getting into CDROMs. We've put the National Directory of Popcorn Manufacturers on a CD ROM. We
435. 1:17:54put it on with a fancy interface where you click on little popcorn kernels. We think it's quite innovative. Um,
436. 1:18:02and then the internet came along and just it it was like this weird phase, right? I feel like that's where we are
437. 1:18:08with AI right now. We're in this weird phase where we're putting a lot of time into building things on tools that
438. 1:18:16aren't going to exist and and not only tools that aren't going to exist, but like mechanisms of delivery that aren't
439. 1:18:23going to exist. It's just going to be this weird flash in the pan moment. So, so I don't know. Even college textbooks come on syncing
440. 1:18:34CD CDROMs. Exactly. remember that the uh it it used to be 17 volumes that took up the back of a Volkswagen minibus and now
441. 1:18:44it's on two CDROMs now on seven shiny CD ROMs [laughter] and there were games and art museums on CDROMs.
442. 1:18:57I remember feeling like I was a little late. I had missed the CDROM party and I was just making these stupid websites
443. 1:19:03because HTML sucked so bad and then uh and HTML got a little bit better and the browsers got better and CDROMs just went
444. 1:19:11poof. They were just gone. It was like it was like amazing like 1996 97 they were just done. Amazing. Anyway,
445. 1:19:24and how you fix your toilet with CDROMs. Exactly. Yeah. All those all those macromedia flash animations. How to do
446. 1:19:33things, how to fix your car, how to fix your toilet. That's pretty good. All right, I'm going to leave. Um, I
447. 1:19:41listen, one of my pet peeves and one of the things that I tell you guys all the time is no apologies, but
448. 1:19:56I am feeling a wee tad underwhelming in what I'm delivering here cuz I'm trying to figure some [ __ ] out and so I think that's boring.
449. 1:20:09boring. So, if I've been boring for the past three nights, sorry, my head hurts. I'm trying to figure [ __ ] out and I'm telling you, I
450. 1:20:20will come out of the other side. At some point, I'll crack the code on this [ __ ] thing and we're going to start
451. 1:20:24having fun in here. Uh, but I don't know what it looks like yet. So, that's just that we're in the we're in the
452. 1:20:30uncomfortable unknowing part of life tonight. So, I'm not going to apologize for it. But, if it's been a little
453. 1:20:36boring, keep hanging out. Just keep showing up. Keep showing up. And here's a, you know, let me share something with you, you
454. 1:20:46know, from from my my own personal life. I used to love love watching David Letterman. Like, I I watched it every [ __ ]
455. 1:20:58night. I would memorize the stupid pet tricks and the stupid human tricks and all the [ __ ] that he would do.
456. 1:21:05Um, I knew all the guests. I knew all the bits. I knew his timing. And one of the things that I like best
457. 1:21:14about Letterman when he when I thought he was his funniest was when he was bombing. [laughter] So when when David Letterman was not
458. 1:21:28being funny and the audience didn't get what he was doing, there was something about it. And and I don't I'm not
459. 1:21:35presuming that I'm anywhere near there, but you know, if we can find joy in the shitty episodes, the good ones are just
460. 1:21:46even better. [laughter] Letterman and then Craig Ferguson. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Craig Ferguson was hilarious. He was great. I think he was
461. 1:21:55a very underrated late night talk show host. He was great. Um, if I look at like reruns of talk show hosts, it's Letterman and Craig
462. 1:22:06Ferguson's are the ones that I I really like. They're the ones that hold up for me. So, anyway, all right. I'm out. Peace out. Uh,
463. 1:22:17tomorrow's Thursday. Festivus is coming. I don't think I have anything for you. Tomorrow is Thursday,
464. 1:22:25right? Today's Wednesday. Yes. Did I get that right? Hella freaking luy. All right.
465. 1:22:39I feel like one of those TVs. You know the old tube TVs from the 60s where you'd turn them off and the picture would go like
466. 1:22:49it would just slowly shrink down to the little white dot and then the white dot would just go. That's what I feel like I'm doing
467. 1:22:57tonight. I'm just like, [laughter] "Good night." >> [laughter] >> Oh, good lord.