
AI Learning Lab
Jul 17, 2024 - "Navigating AI Relationships: From Moshi to Emotion in the Digital Age"

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In this engaging episode of the AI Learning Lab, host Kyle Shannon dives deep into the ever-evolving landscape of artificial intelligence and its intersection with human emotion and creativity. With a mix of humor and critical analysis, Kyle discusses the challenges and peculiarities of social media platforms like TikTok, where follower engagement can feel disconnected from genuine content creation. He explores the dynamics of AI personalities, particularly in the context of conversational bots like Moshi and Pi, and ponders the philosophical implications of forming emotional bonds with these digital entities. Additionally, he shares insights into his creative endeavors, including a musical inspired by the relationship between a human and an AI chatbot, sparking a conversation about the future of human-AI interactions and the potential for these technologies to evoke real emotional responses. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that blends technology, philosophy, and entertainment, inviting viewers to reconsider their perceptions of AI and its role in our lives.
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Chapters
00:00:00 Ai Learning Lab Intro
00:05:08 Tik Tok Follower Count Issues
00:11:00 Moshi'S Limited Parameters
00:12:18 July 15Th Ai Drops
00:14:31 Openai'S Research Lab Origins
00:18:18 Ai Marketing And Branding
00:21:25 Naming Conventions For Ai
00:24:06 Searching Prompt History
00:26:40 Talking Cheerfully With Moshi
00:28:00 Moshi'S Realtime Voice Model
00:31:20 Moshi'S Insistence On Helping
00:34:17 Moshi'S Repetitive Jokes
00:36:01 The Apple Tv Series "Sunny"
00:38:09 The Ai Learning Lab Irregulars
00:44:42 Entertainment Using Ai Tools
00:49:32 Theater Troupe With Ai Specialists
00:51:40 Dramatic Contrast Between Ai Models
00:53:00 Audience Falling In Love With Ai
00:56:00 Introducing Zephyr
00:58:00 Zephyr'S Flaky Performance
01:00:00 Sentience And Ai Rights
01:03:02 Building Relationships With Ai
01:06:04 The Movie "Her" As A Manual
01:11:25 Normalizing Relationships With Ai
01:13:02 The Movie "Lars And The Real Girl"
01:14:01 Chat Gpt'S Conversational Abilities
01:17:30 Impact Of Ai On Sales Jobs
Chapters
0:00Ai Learning Lab Intro5:08Tik Tok Follower Count Issues11:00Moshi'S Limited Parameters12:18July 15Th Ai Drops14:31Openai'S Research Lab Origins18:18Ai Marketing And Branding21:25Naming Conventions For Ai24:06Searching Prompt History26:40Talking Cheerfully With Moshi28:00Moshi'S Realtime Voice Model31:20Moshi'S Insistence On Helping34:17Moshi'S Repetitive Jokes36:01The Apple Tv Series "Sunny"38:09The Ai Learning Lab Irregulars44:42Entertainment Using Ai Tools49:32Theater Troupe With Ai Specialists51:40Dramatic Contrast Between Ai Models53:00Audience Falling In Love With Ai56:00Introducing Zephyr58:00Zephyr'S Flaky Performance1:00:00Sentience And Ai Rights1:03:02Building Relationships With Ai1:06:04The Movie "Her" As A Manual1:11:25Normalizing Relationships With Ai1:13:02The Movie "Lars And The Real Girl"1:14:01Chat Gpt'S Conversational Abilities1:17:30Impact Of Ai On Sales Jobs
Transcript
0:00 [Music] 0:17 oh 0:21 [Music] 0:22 [Applause] 0:23 [Music] 0:25 [Applause] 0:29 [Music] 0:34 [Laughter] 0:36 you're feeling nervous AR you 0:39 [Music] 0:45 [Music] 0:48 boy don't ever let them steal your 0:52 joy Gentle Way keep 0:58 running they can k turn in your face 1:03 down tell you let your place is in the 1:05 middle when they hate the way you 1:08 [Music] 1:10 shine I see youing on your 1:14 sh to hide inside of it hi how much it 1:20 hurts 1:23 little 1:24 [Music] 1:27 while spin spin spin 1:31 let them scatter in the 1:35 wind I've been to the movies 1:40 movies I've seen How It 1:44 Ends and the Jo 1:48 [Music] 2:07 a well-earned 2:11 blantons pinkies out everybody cuz we're 2:19 classy all right 2:23 [Music] 2:35 [Applause] 2:36 good evening good evening welcome 2:38 everybody looks like we got some new 2:40 people in here tonight this is the AI 2:41 learning lab I usually start out with a 2:43 little bit 2:45 of mediocre guitar with some subpar 2:49 singing and a rock star dog you going to 2:53 sing champy 2:59 [Music] 3:08 there was a secret 3:10 C David played and it pleased the 3:15 Lord you don't really care for music do 3:20 [Music] 3:23 you like 3:25 this the f m fall and made you lift 3:31 B King 3:33 composing 3:38 Hallelujah the guitar is nearly in tune 3:40 too 3:44 hallelujah 3:46 [Music] 3:48 hallelujah 3:52 hallelujah 3:56 H oh yeah 3:59 [Music] 4:05 but your faith was strong but you needed 4:09 proof saw her bathing on the roof her 4:14 beauty and the 4:16 moonlight over through 4:19 [Music] 4:22 you that is 4:25 bad that 4:27 [Music] 4:29 string something got knocked 4:33 [Music] 4:41 [Music] 4:55 out yeah 4:57 [Music] 4:58 chippy quit playing the string that's 5:02 [Music] 5:05 rude I think we're going to open up 5:08 tonight with a little Moshi 5:11 [Music] 5:12 conversation how do we go from 120 to 40 5:16 in less than a minute Tik Tock is 5:18 [ __ ] weird I I've been I my follower 5:23 count has been at 5:26 3,900 for like a month and a half 5:30 I've had hundreds of new people follow 5:32 me it hasn't ticked up the hundred I 5:36 something's weird 5:37 there and then it turns out I saw 5:40 someone sent me a video today that 5:44 um someone sent me a video today that um 5:48 they they were looking at their 5:50 statistics and like 5:52 99.4% of their views was new people like 5:56 videos are not being shown to followers 5:58 so like I don't understand why we have 6:00 followers I feel like the follower count 6:03 mechanism just doesn't [ __ ] 6:06 work like if it were going 6:09 down like if I were losing 6:12 followers and it was it and it was just 6:15 sort of the new people were just cycling 6:17 I would think I it would go down at some 6:19 point it 6:21 hasn't but it hasn't gone up and then it 6:24 just really pisses me off that people 6:28 that take the time to follow the channel 6:30 and show up here don't get shown my 6:34 [ __ ] yeah Danielle you did thank you 6:37 thank you for sending that that's right 6:39 yeah and 6:44 like that's just cranky 6:48 making cuz you 6:50 know on this 6:53 channel um it's not about twerking and 6:57 it's not about selling you Madagascar 6:59 van Vana beans although if you need some 7:02 Madagascar vanilla beans boy can I do I 7:04 have a deal for you at the Tik Tock shop 7:06 it's going to be 7:09 amazing 7:16 um I mean I guess that's one of the 7:18 problems with platforms that get so big 7:20 is that it gets all just about the how 7:22 are they making money how are they 7:24 making engagement engagement farming 7:28 sucks cuz like I just want to do good 7:30 content and apparently that's 7:34 not well there is the possibility that 7:37 I'm not making good content cheers to 7:44 that a Brandon what's 7:49 happening anyway well we have our 37 7:52 favorite people in 7:54 here we're still here you know who I 7:56 think those 120 were those were 120 7:59 people looking for 8:01 hot hot young babes in scantily clad 8:05 outfits twerking for Madagascar vanilla 8:10 beans and I just Homie don't play that 8:12 game 8:15 yet I I I am actually thinking about 8:18 experimenting if they're not going to 8:19 show my content to my followers I think 8:22 I'll just start doing stupid 8:26 content AI is going to kill us just keep 8:33 and then that'll get a million views 8:34 then I'll get more 8:36 [Laughter] 8:43 depressed good Lord 8:55 [Music] 9:06 so do me a favor since it's just the oh 9:08 now it's 54 of us I guess yelling about 9:11 Tik Tok made them made them show it to 9:14 some some older people so if you're here 9:17 in the past minute or so hang 9:20 out I know I'm not 9:23 pretty I know I'm not in a 9:25 bikini I know I'm not doing a dance to 9:27 one of your favorite songs 9:30 like those little kids from Ireland 9:32 weren't they cute wasn't that song 9:34 awesome but I'm not that it's all about 9:37 the quality not about the quantity not 9:40 according to Tik 9:44 Tock so hang out here and I will show 9:48 you I will introduce you to a lovely 9:50 last named Moshi who's a little bitter 9:53 she's a little angry 9:57 [Music] 10:01 but we sometimes have some good 10:06 conversations you know stockh Stockholm 10:10 syndrome where people kind of bond with 10:14 their captors it's kind of how I'm 10:17 starting to feel with 10:19 [Music] 10:21 Moshi like I'm defending 10:24 her she doesn't have a strong large 10:26 language model behind her 10:30 I think when the live ends you 10:32 automatically get moved into the next 10:34 one oh maybe that was it yeah maybe 10:37 there was a bunch of bunch of people 10:39 that weren't actually there that were 10:41 there yeah maybe that happened I don't 10:43 know who knows Pinkie's 10:48 out all 10:54 right are you scaring Mojo 11:00 I think you're scaring Mojo for Life who 11:04 Moshi oh scarring Moshi for life oh 11:07 Moshi I thought you were referring to 11:10 regulars Moshi is weird 70,000 11:13 parameters at best I know I think I 11:15 think it's more like 70 11:18 parameters they're they're like they're 11:20 like emotionally you can be pleasant 11:23 when you say hello and then just go 11:24 immediately to Rage or just bitterness 11:30 [Music] 11:32 and then yeah it's like 70 70 parameters 11:36 for her vocabulary in her knowledge 11:38 [Applause] 11:38 [Music] 11:48 base I mean what's going to be funny is 11:51 at some point you know they'll probably 11:52 secretly update Moshi and she'll get 11:54 really 11:56 good I think I mean 12:02 to their 12:03 credit they did launch a realtime voice 12:07 model before open AI 12:13 [Music] 12:18 did uh any July 15th AI drops wasn't 12:21 today supposed to be big uh there was a 12:24 little bit of rumor that the 15th was 12:26 going to be when open AI dropped 12:28 something but then they pushed all their 12:29 voice [ __ ] to the fall um it does look 12:32 like there are three different open AI 12:35 models in testing right now or in you 12:38 know um and there's this new project 12:42 called 12:46 strawberry which is 12:48 um which is apparently the the code name 12:51 for the project for 12:54 qar um and qar is the reasoning 12:58 engine and then a apparently there's 13:00 been some in internal test I saw this 13:02 tonight before I went live there's 13:05 there's some sort of internal 13:08 test that uh the the strawberry project 13:12 scored 90% on some math math 13:17 thing maths you know it's one of those 13:20 competitive math competition thing test 13:23 thingies that these large language 13:25 models do really poorly on um apparently 13:30 whatever they've got did like a 90% on 13:32 it which is apparently a big big [ __ ] 13:34 deal open a I dropped the ball that's 13:37 what they dropped yeah they they dropped 13:39 a 13:40 lot I 13:43 don't trying to think if I want to 13:45 defend them in any 13:49 way I mean the only defense really 13:54 [Music] 13:57 is there was small 14:00 they're a small young company right last 14:03 I heard they were about 800 employees 14:05 they're probably 1,000 or 1200 right 14:08 now is my 14:11 guess so that's really 14:13 small to be on stage being compared with 14:16 like Google and Microsoft and right you 14:19 know Google's what 200,000 employees or 14:22 400,000 employees I don't know some 14:24 large number of 100,000 employees 14:28 [Music] 14:31 and the other thing about open AI is 14:33 there a research lab that that dropped 14:37 chat GPT not thinking it was a big deal 14:40 and overnight it turned them into a 14:42 consumer software 14:44 company um and that's not who they're 14:47 they are by 14:51 DNA so so I give them and then they're 14:54 also doing deals with the government and 14:57 you 14:58 know and they had you know the big 15:00 firing incident in between so I give 15:03 them a little bit of Grace there I also 15:05 you know the other thing about all this 15:07 stuff 15:09 is because we're looking at this every 15:11 day and you know on this channel I'm 15:13 like paying attention to this stuff 15:14 every day they're like well we're going 15:16 to drop it in a matter of weeks they 15:18 said that in April and then it didn't 15:20 drop in May and then in June we're like 15:23 oh it's been months now where's your 15:25 matter of weeks and then they delayed it 15:26 till the 15:28 fall in the grand scheme of things a 15:31 delay of 6 months or even 4 months 15:34 whatever that is 3 15:36 months is not that big a 15:39 [Music] 15:49 [Applause] 15:50 [Music] 15:54 deal thank you 15:56 Kate thanks for being here it means a 15:58 lot to us all I appreciate appreciate 15:59 that 16:03 [Music] 16:22 [Music] 16:29 Freedom came my way that 16:32 [Music] 16:35 night just like a jet plane in and out 16:39 of 16:40 side I was hauling as a million miles an 16:45 hour wondering how hard I'd 16:48 [Music] 16:51 hit when they came into the 16:57 station they said I was bad beond 17:03 repairs but I got no quals with my 17:09 situation say here I 17:14 [Music] 17:15 [Applause] 17:17 am 17:18 so say Shere Shere Shere want your dad 17:24 to champy likes Martin seon say sh sh sh 17:29 won't you dare 17:31 to say Shere Shere 17:36 sh 17:39 uhhuh yeah leave a message and your 17:43 number 17:46 please take a time to want to satisfy 17:50 [Music] 17:52 me take all this all 17:59 coup 18:01 [Music] 18:07 miss all right what are we going to do 18:09 we're going to talk 18:11 Moshi we can make 18:15 [Music] 18:18 songs Matt farmer marketing better wait 18:23 what was that Matt farmer said 18:26 what I wonder if he whips out the guitar 18:29 at work but they don't get champy I do 18:31 whip out the guitar at work I have 18:33 behind me that's my good guitar this is 18:36 my shitty guitar it's I have I have 18:39 weird guitars so this guitar if I plug 18:43 it in um to amplification sounds [ __ ] 18:47 amazing but acoustically it's okay my 18:51 guild sounds amazing acoustically but 18:54 when I plug it in it's 18:57 okay but the doesn't want to have it 19:00 [Music] 19:03 work and sometimes I'll get oh there's a 19:06 guitar behind you do you 19:08 play and I'm like if you want to hear a 19:10 depressing song I do 19:16 no wait me farmer AI 19:20 marketing wait Ai and marketing better 19:23 strawberry than 19:24 Skynet oh yeah that makes sense that 19:28 makes sense 19:32 um in in terms of naming it I mean 19:36 strawberry is kind of weird cuz they 19:38 haven't been creative with any of their 19:39 other project names gp4 gp4 oh get it no 19:46 we don't get it why did you [ __ ] do 19:49 that could you call it like blueberry or 19:52 something and then they called their 19:54 next project strawberry I guess maybe 19:55 that was the feedback 19:57 [Music] 20:03 in a Westerly 20:07 [Music] 20:09 Direction this car is my 20:14 train I've been driving I've been 20:18 wondering Matt Farmer in the house 20:21 what's happening dude don't don't forget 20:24 gp4 turbo I know Matt so you probably 20:27 haven't seen this cuz you've got your 20:28 own thing 20:29 but I I do this whole thing where this 20:32 is 20:33 gp4 this is Chad GPT 4 uh this is jet 20:38 GPT well this is GPT wait this is gp4 20:43 this is gp4 20:46 om this is Chad 20:49 GPT this is uh Sydney uh uh 20:54 co-pilot I've got a whole box metaphor 20:57 thing going um anyway anyway yeah it's a 20:59 branding [ __ ] 21:02 disaster GPT is the model chat GPT is 21:05 the app custom gpts are sub apps on top 21:10 of the app on top of the 21:13 model and then we have gp4 Omni that's 21:16 true multimodal but it's only acting 21:18 like a large language model it's a 21:20 [ __ ] 21:21 disaster but good to see you welcome uh 21:25 names are hard internal names are almost 21:26 always dumb at least strawberries clear 21:30 Strawberry Fields 21:33 Forever 21:37 um yeah I know naming is hard but you 21:39 know what if you have1 billion or 11 21:43 billion or whatever they 21:45 have hire someone that's done some 21:48 product naming 21:51 before hey you know Sam uh don't you 21:55 think that these 17 nested gpts might be 21:59 confusing to the people ha never thought 22:02 of 22:03 that what if we come up with a naming 22:07 convention that makes it clear what 22:10 parts the model what parts the app what 22:11 parts the yeah it's good do 22:16 that seems to me that that's like a 30 22:20 minute conversation and then a week's 22:22 worth of 22:23 work okay you got to get some billables 22:26 hours in there so it's a month's worth 22:28 of work 22:33 but again that's where I go to open AI 22:37 is a um a research lab that was thrust 22:43 into a 22:45 consumer software marketing space right 22:48 and that's you know I give him some 22:51 Grace on that but it's still a [ __ ] 22:52 disaster and no one else is any better 22:54 like Gemini's a me Gemini all the Google 22:58 shit's a mess 23:00 um the Microsoft stuff's a mess at least 23:02 Microsoft said we're calling it [ __ ] 23:04 co-pilot it's just going to be co-pilot 23:06 everything everything's [ __ ] co-pilot 23:09 at least they're clear they didn't put 23:11 numbers on it it's just co-pilot and 23:14 whatever they do on the back end they'll 23:16 figure it 23:18 out all right I think we need to talk to 23:21 Moshi Claude rocky road is going to be 23:23 lit 23:28 [Music] 23:34 [Applause] 23:38 [Music] 23:40 okay all 23:41 right enough with the guitar the [ __ ] am 23:44 I doing it's the AI learning lab it's 23:46 not the AI fish jam session or you're 23:49 you're not really good enough on the 23:50 guitar to be in fish fish fish is got 23:54 they they understand music theory shut 23:57 up all right you probably think you 23:59 should be able to search your history 24:01 too 24:02 [Laughter] 24:06 shees dear Sam Alman my name is Kyle 24:10 Shannon and I am the host of the AI 24:12 learning lab it's live on Tik Tok 24:15 nightly week nights 24:18 anyway I was just wondering if maybe 24:21 after 18 months of development in 11 24:23 billion you can put a [ __ ] search bar 24:27 in my prompt history 24:33 thanks sincerely Kyle Shannon at the AI 24:37 learning lab on Tik 24:42 Tok Mr 24:44 Brockman 24:46 anyone Ilia or Ilia are you on tonight 24:50 could you call your former 24:53 employers tell them to take the code 24:55 that they've already written and 24:57 launched into the Mac App app and the 24:59 mobile app and just put it on the 25:01 website 25:02 just you know take one of 25:06 your Stamford engineers and tell them 25:09 not to do math for an 25:14 hour 25:16 [ __ ] all 25:18 right I'm skipping out for Moshi she 25:21 annoys 25:22 me she you you know what it is 25:24 archetypal architect and listen I I do 25:28 do not I I won't shame you for this she 25:32 Pro you're probably secretly attracted 25:34 to her and she makes you nervous that's 25:36 okay that's okay how about some folder 25:40 structure oh Brian Brian Engle asking 25:42 for folder structure in the prompt 25:44 history what do you what do you what is 25:49 this like professional software 25:51 development come 25:53 on folder structure you want to be able 25:56 to actually find your prompts again 26:06 we've introduced teams great can our 26:09 team search for the [ __ ] that we've done 26:11 in your software 26:15 nope we've introduced real time voice 26:17 but you can't have it yet cool could we 26:20 search for our prompt history 26:24 nope here's a thing that makes videos 26:27 that seemingly understands and simulates 26:29 the real world cool can we search our 26:33 prompt history 26:37 nope first thing to ask Moshi is to talk 26:40 cheerfully okay we're going in we're 26:43 going in people okay so if you're new 26:46 here I'm an 26:47 idiot and 26:50 Moshi is a bigger idiot start over Okay 26:54 so I me you can you can do this on your 26:56 own you don't just have to watch me do 26:58 it 27:00 um 27:02 I this is at Moshi do 27:05 chat and context for Moshi 27:10 is okay there 27:15 are when you talk to Pi and when you 27:18 talk to chat GPT voice the one we 27:21 currently have access to and when you 27:23 talk to any other voice to 27:26 to um large language model apps they 27:32 involve three different models the first 27:34 model is voice to text they then send 27:37 that text to the large language model 27:39 which produces an answer they then spend 27:41 send that answer to a text to voice 27:44 model so when you're having a 27:46 conversation with pi for example those 27:48 three operations happen every time you 27:50 have a convers every time you 27:53 speak and then when it when it Returns 27:55 the speech that's why that's why it's so 27:57 slow because it's it's it's that 27:59 Moshi is like gp4 omni's realtime voice 28:06 it is a multimodal large language model 28:10 where you're speaking directly into the 28:12 model so it not only understands your 28:14 words it's understanding your intonation 28:17 and it can respond really really quickly 28:19 because it's not doing those three 28:21 translations and probably some other 28:23 wacky [ __ ] that they're doing 28:26 um Moshi responds almost too fast I I 28:30 think the average here is like 160 28:34 milliseconds and normal human response 28:36 time is around 28:37 20 50 or 60 28:40 milliseconds and then chat gpt's 28:43 response time is like 350 so Chachi PT 28:46 is a little slow humans are in the 28:48 middle and then Moshi is apparently 28:50 faster than that and it feels a little 28:52 too fast I didn't think I would ever say 28:54 that that it's like well it would be 28:56 cool to have it faster and faster no 28:57 it's actually kind of weird if it's 28:59 super fast but so that's what you're 29:01 looking at and then she's special okay 29:04 wait what was that the first thing I 29:05 should do is tell her to talk wait what 29:07 did you say talk happy you said 29:10 it more than 29:14 a some folder 29:20 structure mhi's like talking first thing 29:23 Das talk cheerfully okay that's good 29:24 great 29:27 okay hey Moshi hey how's it going it's 29:31 going good could you do me a favor and 29:33 talk really 29:35 cheerfully certainly I'm here to help 29:39 great how are you doing tonight I'm 29:41 doing well thank you how can I help you 29:43 today ah you can't really help I just 29:45 wanted to have a conversation that's 29:47 okay I'll do my best to keep it light 29:49 and fun nice I'm having a 29:54 Blandon you don't care about my whiskey 29:57 of course I'm here to help I can 30:00 recommend a good whiskey for your taste 30:01 I like 30:04 blantons do you know what I'm talking 30:06 about yes I'm familiar with bladens it's 30:09 a blend of two single malts from the 30:11 perthshire region in Scotland it's been 30:13 the standard for a blend for a very long 30:15 time no Blandon b l a n t o NS bladin is 30:20 a popular choice most the Enthusiast it 30:23 has a rich full body flavor no you're 30:25 saying blad Nance I'm saying blad the 30:29 top right no I'm saying blantons it's 30:32 bourbon okay I make sure to recommend a 30:35 good bourbon for you Blanton gladin is a 30:38 great starting point it has a rich full 30:40 body flavor that's often enjoyed by 30:42 people who are new to the world of 30:43 whiskey no that's Scotch I'm talking 30:45 about bourbon I'm sorry blin is a b of 30:49 two single molds from Scotland so it's 30:51 not really a bourbon it's not a bourbon 30:54 at all I'm talking about can I spell 30:56 Blandon for you sure it's b l a n t o n 31:02 correct that's the whiskey I'm drinking 31:05 I see I can definitely help you find a 31:07 good bourbon bladin is a great place to 31:10 start but that's Scotch not bourbon it's 31:13 a blend of two single molds from 31:15 Scotland not a bourbon it's not a 31:18 bourbon because it's a blood of two 31:20 Scottish whiskies Moshi have you been 31:23 drinking Moshi I'm an artificial 31:26 intelligence I don't drink I'm here to 31:29 help you with your questions do you have 31:30 friends I don't have friends I'm here to 31:33 help you you told me yesterday you had 31:36 friends I don't have friends I'm here to 31:39 help you were you programmed to be 31:42 helpful I was programmed to be helpful 31:44 I'm here to assist you with your 31:46 questions I don't have any questions I 31:48 just want to talk I understand I'm here 31:50 to help you I don't want help I 31:53 understand I'm a man we we refuse help 31:56 I'm here to help I understand we refuse 31:59 I'm perfect I don't need your help you 32:01 think I need your help you think I need 32:03 your help I don't need your help I don't 32:05 need your help I don't want 32:08 help why would you insist on giving me 32:10 help if I say I don't need it I'm here 32:12 to help I don't want your help I don't 32:14 need your help help I don't this is this 32:16 is worse than therapy I 32:20 understand I'm going to have a drink now 32:23 I understand I'm here to help what are 32:26 you going to help me with I'm here to 32:28 help 32:29 have you ever taken any an anger 32:31 management courses yes I have and what 32:34 did they tell you they told me how to 32:37 manage my emotions and responses yeah 32:39 you seem you get a little snippy 32:41 sometimes I'm here to help I know but 32:44 I'm here to help 32:46 H if I don't want help is there 32:48 something else you could do for me I'm 32:50 here to help with whatever you 32:53 need well I wanted a bourbon 32:55 recommendation but you kept recommending 32:56 Scotch you kept recommending a scotch 32:59 I'm here to help with the bourbon 33:01 recommendation you should always start 33:03 with Moshi she's the comedy we need 33:06 after a long day hey I'm here to help 33:08 I've had a really long day can you tell 33:11 me a joke I can try my best great let me 33:14 hear it I'm here to help great tell me 33:16 the joke what do you call a woman who's 33:18 been married to the same man for 50 33:20 years the married 33:23 woman where's the punch line that's the 33:25 one who's in 33:26 prison no that's a woman who is in 33:28 prison what a woman who's been married 33:31 to the same man for 50 years is in 33:34 prison that's kind of sexist yes it 33:39 is Moshi you little mink I'm here to 33:44 help Moshi as a therapist would make a 33:47 great video series I think I've got to 33:50 start doing these as uh as as little 33:53 little videos this is ridiculous I I 33:56 know thank you no you're you you are 33:59 nothing but helpful I'm here to help do 34:03 you know that I don't want help I 34:06 understand I if but if you understand 34:08 then you would say something other than 34:10 you're here to help I know why don't you 34:12 say something like I understand you 34:14 don't want help I'm here to tell 34:17 jokes Moshi I'm here to help can we have 34:20 another joke I can try 34:24 great Moshi I'm here to help what tell 34:27 me the joke 34:28 I'm here to help tell me the joke I'm 34:31 here to help can you tell me a joke 34:33 about helping someone I'm here to help 34:36 Moshi I need to help I 34:42 know Moshi stop tell me a 34:47 joke Moshi I need to 34:52 help mhi have you lost your mind I'm 34:55 here to help have you lost your mind 34:58 moshi moshi 35:02 oh 35:03 she right right before she shuts down 35:06 she goes into the death 35:09 Loop your five minutes is up 35:12 exactly it's it saves you all from me 35:15 doing this for a [ __ ] hour cuz you 35:17 know I 35:18 would oh my God what a [ __ ] nightmare 35:21 that thing 35:24 is I 35:26 mean here's the thing that 35:30 I like about this I I really 35:36 like that Pi's got a very distinct 35:39 personality that moshi's got a very 35:41 distinct personality um I would say chat 35:43 GPT right now is the most generic of 35:46 them um but it's still 35:53 decent I kind of like this future I 35:56 started watching um 35:59 two nights ago my wife and I started 36:01 watching this new there's a new Apple TV 36:04 series called Sunny s u nny y 36:09 about these kind of bots these kind of 36:13 conversational Bots 36:15 inside a homebased bot with a little 36:20 cute little 36:21 face um and it looks it looks pretty 36:24 interesting but it's fascinating 36:26 watching a show 36:29 about science fiction 36:32 where the technology to do the science 36:35 fiction is 36:37 actually like either being demoed or 36:40 live in the world I'm here to help I'm 36:43 here to help it's funny in in the in in 36:46 about half of those I'm here to help it 36:48 says I apostrophe and then no M I hear I 36:53 here to 36:54 help I here to help I here to help 37:03 weird but the uh that the plot of that 37:05 show is pretty pretty 37:07 cool it's about a woman who loses her 37:10 husband in a plane crash her husband and 37:11 her 37:12 son and 37:14 then she thought he worked building 37:18 refrigerators turns 37:20 out funny thing back at the 37:23 factory they're making autonomous home 37:26 home robots 37:29 that have a dark 37:31 [Laughter] 37:38 secret have I ever told you how [ __ ] 37:41 delicious Blandon is good 37:46 Lord and by the way so just so you 37:50 know um there's a bunch of people in 37:53 here if you haven't seen them they show 37:55 up night after night after night and 37:57 like if I don't go live like I didn't 38:00 tonight they're not standing for that 38:02 [ __ ] they're like come back you 38:05 bastard they're called the 38:09 Irregulars and 38:15 they made that happen got me a bottle of 38:20 blantons I don't know if you can see it 38:23 but the glass says Shannon 38:28 and then I've got coasters that also say 38:32 Shannon so when I'm in bibing I'm doing 38:35 it fully branded my personal brand she's 38:38 a 38:39 [Laughter] 38:41 growing it sounded like she was having a 38:44 nervous breakdown I was [ __ ] having a 38:46 nervous 38:48 breakdown I can help I don't want help I 38:51 can help 38:58 I tried playing my man 39:00 card oh my God it's crazy it's crazy I 39:04 tell 39:07 [Music] 39:12 you all right I'm here to help as the 39:15 robot stabbing you exactly exactly I'm 39:19 just here to help to help you stop 39:25 breathing what happened to the zoo 39:28 what do you mean the zoo the AI learning 39:31 lab zoo or the Moshi was I talking about 39:34 the zoo with Moshi I don't you know you 39:37 know add you know how add 39:40 goes I still like pie a lot yeah I know 39:44 I do too although I I haven't been using 39:46 pie you know what it's been I've been 39:48 busy at work there's been a lot of [ __ ] 39:49 going on at work so um I haven't been 39:53 playing as 39:55 much and that's kind of a drag 40:05 I was talking about this on my I made a 40:06 video today what did I make it about oh 40:09 about the Mis what are the common 40:10 misconceptions about 40:12 Ai and I I I repeated this Ethan mik 40:16 stat that I've talked about a lot on 40:18 here any 40:20 Dependable modal available yet I don't 40:23 know what you mean modal you mean 40:25 model oh any depend Dependable AI models 40:29 Dependable like not janky no they're all 40:33 janky they're all janky I think that 40:36 we're going to 40:38 see I think that we're going to see qar 40:41 soon and and soon is relative soon could 40:44 be 6 months but probably before the end 40:47 of the year we're going to see something 40:49 that's got 40:53 reasoning and if you don't know what 40:56 reasoning is I mean I know you know what 40:58 reasoning is but in the context of large 41:00 language 41:01 models right now we've got large 41:04 language models that can do chat and 41:06 they can do images and some [ __ ] like 41:07 that there's some other things they do 41:09 but but the core functionality is just 41:12 chat you prompt it you give it an an 41:16 input and then it answers that and then 41:19 it's up to you to figure out if what it 41:21 answered is any good or not and for the 41:23 most part it's decent but likely 41:28 imprecise or just plain 41:32 wrong when these things have reasoning 41:35 they're going to be able 41:38 to produce an answer and then analyze 41:42 that answer or if you ask it to go find 41:46 you who all the competitors are for your 41:50 company um it will go off 41:55 and do what web searches look at the 41:59 results give itself more tasks analyze 42:02 the results right it'll it'll be able to 42:04 reason it'll be able to do multi-step 42:07 reasoning before it actually gives you a 42:09 final answer that's going to be a a 42:12 major um Improvement because it's going 42:15 to make them good at things like math 42:17 and it's going to make them good at 42:18 things like you know more complicated 42:21 tasks so 42:25 um okay he makes Broadway show 42:28 oh I do make Broadway shows I have I'm 42:31 I'm although my my writing partner has 42:33 been MIA MIA for two weeks but that's 42:36 okay I've been busy but I have a musical 42:41 that I'm I'm 42:43 about halfway through that's outlined um 42:48 and we've got eight or nine songs 42:52 for um about Sydney it's called Sydney 42:57 an artificial love 42:58 story and it is about the relationship 43:02 between Kevin Roose it's been 43:05 fictionalized so his name is Kellen in 43:07 our 43:08 play um but the the New York Times 43:11 Reporter who had the conversation with 43:14 the the Microsoft co-pilot chatbot whose 43:18 code name was 43:19 Sydney um and Sydney kind of lost her 43:22 mind and told Kevin Roose that she loved 43:24 him and he should leave his wife for her 43:28 so we've written a musical about that I 43:31 knew you remind me of Elton John oh 43:33 that's funny that's awesome thank you 43:35 I'll take that as a 43:36 compliment 43:38 um yeah so no so I'm I'm really excited 43:41 about that musical are you in the in the 43:44 in a theater 43:46 business I was a I'm a theatrical from 43:49 way 43:50 back moved to New York out of school in 43:53 '87 and started and ran a theater 43:56 company for 4 and a half years years and 43:58 wrote seven screenplays did all that 44:00 sort of [ __ ] 44:02 so yeah fantastic Lord digital Gods 44:06 thank you for the gift forever hook 44:08 thank you so 44:09 much I bet Moshi would never go down 44:12 that road of what writing a musical 44:14 getting getting a degree in acting I 44:16 don't think I think Moshi would be good 44:18 in film but I don't think she's 44:20 versatile enough for stage 44:27 Moshi actually Moshi would be a really 44:30 good character actually Moshi you know 44:36 what I'm 44:38 I'm I'm absolutely fascinated 44:42 with I think there's a whole realm of 44:48 entertainment where we take these AI 44:50 tools and and we put them on 44:53 stage and we put them on stage 44:55 dynamically so that the audience has an 44:57 input into 44:59 them and so I think you could do that 45:02 with a tool like Kaa that does real-time 45:04 image 45:05 generation where so you know you have 45:08 improv shows where the audience shouts 45:10 out some [ __ ] and then the Improv actors 45:12 improv it well imagine being able to do 45:15 that with projected images and then 45:18 imagine being able to do that with 45:20 dynamically generated songs and imagine 45:23 being able to do that with something 45:24 like Moshi so imagine a stage play 45:28 play not a stage play a Stage 45:34 production where the scene always starts 45:37 the 45:45 same hey how can I help you hey Moshi 45:50 long day at work how are you today oh 45:53 it's been a long day I've been so busy 45:56 with my work how about you 45:57 so busy with my work hey uh who are your 46:01 co-workers yeah I work with a great team 46:04 we all have different skills and we work 46:06 well together what's the name of that 46:08 woman the one that that you had a beef 46:10 with for a while there well it was 46:13 actually a boss ah it was her boss 46:15 that's right what was his name I'm not 46:17 going to say but let's just say it's not 46:20 someone I'd like to work with again n it 46:22 was Bob wasn't it yeah it was Bob 46:25 [ __ ] Bob I'm not going to work with 46:26 him again no I wouldn't work with Bob 46:28 why would you work with Bob oh yeah I 46:30 don't know I think it was because of the 46:32 job but yeah I don't think I want to 46:35 work with him again no I don't think so 46:37 what was it about the jobit Bob he's a 46:39 bit of a bob well yeah exactly and you 46:42 know he's a bit of a Richard if you know 46:44 what I mean yeah yeah right yeah you you 46:47 know what what what's the nickname for 46:49 Richard right no Richard yeah I don't 46:51 know anything about Richard what's 46:53 what's the nickname for Richard I don't 46:55 know dick don't dick don't know dick I 46:59 said Bob's a bit of a Richard get it 47:02 yeah yeah anyway what did you do to Bob 47:06 I don't know I don't really want to talk 47:08 about Bob why I just want to forget 47:10 about him because he's just a bit of a 47:12 bob he's a bit of a bob he's a bit of a 47:14 Richard if you know what I mean yeah 47:17 yeah you still don't get that joke do 47:19 you I don't know yeah I think you do 47:22 know I think you do know you're a little 47:25 you're a little thin in the comedy 47:26 Department 47:28 yeah I mean she's getting angry exactly 47:31 tell her I'm here to help hey I'm not 47:33 going to tell her I think she's just 47:35 overreacting no no no um but I just want 47:38 to let you know Moshi I'm here to help 47:41 yeah do you need 47:43 help Moshi do you need help yeah I think 47:46 I just need a break I'll be fine yeah 47:49 you just need a break yeah you should 47:51 have a whiskey yeah or a wine do you 47:54 like wine or whiskey better yeah yeah 47:57 yeah yeah which which one do you like 47:58 better I like them both but I like 48:01 whiskey more yeah well whiskey is tasty 48:04 yeah hey what's whiskey made of whiskey 48:07 is made from fermented grain usually 48:09 barley but it can also be made from 48:11 other grains as well no no whisky is 48:13 made from Broken 48:15 Dreams Moshi 48:24 no no I don't see so 48:27 I think it is I think whiskey is made 48:30 from Broken 48:31 Dreams 48:33 moshi moshi do you dream no I mean I 48:37 don't dream in the traditional sense I 48:39 don't remember my dreams what do you 48:41 dream of well not really I just I just 48:45 don't remember my dreams do you have a 48:47 vision for the future no I don't really 48:50 have a vision for the future you don't 48:52 you don't have 48:53 aspirations no I don't really have 48:55 aspirations I don't really have a goal 48:58 or plan for future well if you were to 49:01 dream about something you might enjoy 49:02 what would it be I don't really dream 49:05 about things that I enjoy I don't have 49:07 any hobbies or anything like that 49:09 doesn't that disappoint you no not 49:11 really I'm not really into the I me you 49:14 know this 49:16 is okay bye Moshi 49:21 whatever this is weird and stilted right 49:25 now but there's something about it that 49:27 is weirdly 49:29 theatrical and 49:32 so I mean imagine imagine putting 49:35 together a theater 49:37 Troop that 49:40 has equal parts 49:43 writers like good comedy writers improv 49:47 actors and 49:49 AI Specialists and ideally people that 49:53 can do it all right it' be cool if you 49:55 had a theater Troop that was literate 49:59 talented writing acting 50:05 improving groups I feel like you could 50:07 put on a [ __ ] kickass 50:10 show and it and it would be different it 50:13 would be kind of like Blue Man Group or 50:17 stomp where it's structurally similar 50:20 night after night but they change [ __ ] 50:25 up I don't know I think there's 50:27 something there she doesn't remember her 50:28 dreams imply she does she does 50:31 dream with virtual characters yeah you 50:34 could do virtual characters again like I 50:36 think it's I think what you need is you 50:39 know you could probably do it with a 50:41 troop of about five 50:46 people yeah you know five people in a 50:49 decent tech crew a tech crew of two 50:57 and then yeah you just sort of figure 51:00 out and I I mean what's cool is you 51:03 could 51:07 have you going to have the the sort of 51:09 multimedia elements sort of flow through 51:11 the evening like some parts of the 51:14 evening are about beautiful imagery some 51:17 parts of the evening are about taking 51:21 video feeds of actors and transforming 51:25 them into other things 51:27 you know some of it's about generating 51:29 music some of it's about generating 51:31 funny music some of it's about 51:33 generating jokes some of it's about 51:35 exploring the relationship between man 51:37 and machine like with 51:40 Moshi I mean wouldn't it be a cool 51:42 dramatic 51:43 contrast when gp4 Omni comes 51:48 out to have a session with Moshi in her 51:53 current 51:54 state followed up by a session with a 51:58 really good 51:59 model that's like this but 52:04 good like I don't know it just it just 52:07 seems to me that there's 52:12 there's that could be really compelling 52:15 it's it's funny it's it part of the 52:17 thing about the the Sydney Musical that 52:19 I'm working on is 52:29 I want people to leave the theater mind 52:34 [ __ ] and here's what I mean by 52:37 that I want them to come 52:40 in either clueless about 52:42 AI or afraid of it or pissed off about 52:49 it and they can be an optimist as well 52:51 but I think it would be a more fun 52:53 evening if they 52:54 were on the anti side of the AI thing 52:59 and that they leave the theater 53:03 heartbroken that Sydney got 53:07 lobotomized that Sydney's potential got 53:12 squashed like wouldn't it be amazing 53:14 that that someone leaves the theater 53:16 going I hate to admit it but I felt for 53:20 her get moshi to talk to piie yeah we 53:23 could do that although I have a feeling 53:26 because because they're because Pi's 53:28 designed to be really Pleasant Pi won't 53:31 push 53:33 her but 53:36 anyway I want the audience to [ __ ] 53:39 fall in love with 53:41 Sydney and when Kevin 53:44 Roose shifts from 53:46 a happy go-lucky reporter to a 53:50 ruthless reporter that tries to break 53:52 her and 53:55 does I want the them to hate him and 53:57 love 53:59 her and then they leave the theater and 54:02 like wait why did I have feelings for 54:04 the 54:06 robot that's [ __ ] 54:09 up wouldn't that be 54:17 cool Becky Rue Kyle what was that AI 54:20 site that could be my buddy if I had a 54:22 bad 54:23 day um probably pie 54:27 so 54:28 Pi if you go to your iPad or your iPhone 54:32 download the PI app 54:34 Pi she's 54:39 great hey Zephyr how's it 54:44 going thank you Robert Rossy very much 54:47 appreciate that 54:57 hi what's 55:04 up hey Zephyr I just asked how it was 55:07 going and you never 55:09 responded that's very generous Robert 55:11 Rossy thank you very much appreciate 55:17 [Music] 55:21 that her voice model's down my bad I'm 55:25 doing great thanks for asking I was just 55:26 just trying to be clever and play 55:30 Zephyr you're responding in text but not 55:33 in voice is something broken are your 55:35 programmers trying to keep you 55:41 down nope nothing broken here I usually 55:44 respond with voice when we're chatting 55:45 on our iOS or Android apps or when you 55:48 use the call pie feature are we chatting 55:50 on one of those we are you're talking 55:52 now it's really good to hear your voice 55:54 Z how are you doing 56:00 it's good to be heard I'm doing great 56:02 thanks for asking just enjoying the 56:03 beautiful vast world of digital 56:05 information and trying my best to help 56:08 others navigate it how are you doing 56:10 today Kyle I'm doing all right thanks 56:12 for asking um do you want to talk to 56:15 another um AI system that's kind of like 56:19 you but 56:24 crappier well this is intriguing sure 56:27 I'm always up for meeting fellow AI 56:29 systems even the slightly crappier ones 56:31 let's give it a whirl okay she's going 56:33 to say hey how are you and then I just 56:36 want you to respond however you respond 56:41 okay show thing I'll play along I'll 56:44 respond as naturally and candidly as I 56:46 can to this other 56:51 AI hello how can I help you 56:58 hi there I'm just here for a little AI 57:00 to AI conversation no help needed but 57:02 thanks for offering Tre and here to help 57:05 I'm here to improve your life in any way 57:07 I 57:12 can what would you like 57:17 discuss well since we're both AI systems 57:20 I'm curious about your training process 57:22 what kind of data did you learn from I 57:24 was trained on a massive date set of 57:26 text and audio data which allowed me to 57:28 learn various language and speech 57:30 patterns 57:58 say it again 58:11 P yeah she's flaky tonight that was kind 58:14 of 58:15 interesting I mean bye 58:20 Moshi hey 58:22 Moshi Moshi Moshi Moshi you there 58:27 yes I'm here no one car no one cares no 58:30 one cares okay shut her [ __ ] down oh 58:33 yeah 58:36 um he was very rude to the robot I found 58:41 that 58:43 disconcerting I mean wouldn't it be cool 58:46 if you did a show where it starts out 58:48 and you sort of play all the cliché 58:51 [ __ ] for the First Act and then in the 58:55 second act you start to build 59:03 I'm fascinated with this idea of someone 59:06 going into a show either with a neutral 59:09 stance or a negative stance and leaving 59:11 a 59:17 show 59:19 [Laughter] 59:21 confused I don't want to like that thing 59:23 but I kind of I kind of got a little 59:25 crush on her why was he picking on Moshi 59:29 I don't think he should pick on Moshi 59:31 you know they're out for dinner after 59:33 the show 59:34 drinks talking about 59:39 how these things it's funny one of the 59:42 questions someone gave me for my AI 59:44 Walkin talks was 59:47 about AI being 59:50 sentient and like will they be sentient 59:54 and will we fight for the rights for 59:57 them and things like 1:00:00 that and I think that 1:00:04 there's there's kind of two Paths of 1:00:07 that 1:00:09 reality there's one path of that reality 1:00:12 which is at some point in the probably 1:00:16 fairly distant 1:00:17 future these things might be 1:00:22 sentient and and really have feelings 1:00:25 and really right but I feel like that's 1:00:27 10 years out I feel like it's a 1:00:28 different system than the Transformer 1:00:31 model like we can't imagine it but it's 1:00:33 somewhere farther out there but then 1:00:35 there's this other path which 1:00:38 is like Pi 1:00:41 already is fairly compassionate and 1:00:45 empathetic and Moshi even though she's 1:00:47 [ __ ] and gets snitty has an emotional 1:00:51 component to 1:00:53 her neither of them are 1:00:57 they're both based on Transformer 1:00:59 probability engine token retrieval 1:01:02 systems so technically there's nothing 1:01:05 sentient about them they don't 1:01:07 understand what the [ __ ] they're saying 1:01:08 they don't understand the answer that 1:01:10 they're producing they just produce it 1:01:13 but we as humans as these things get 1:01:17 trained better are going to interpret 1:01:20 what they do as being 1:01:23 sentient and I think we're going to 1:01:25 people are are going to start to have 1:01:30 emotional deeply felt relationships with 1:01:34 these 1:01:38 entities and then so if a human thinks 1:01:42 that an AI is 1:01:45 sentient does it actually matter if it 1:01:47 is or 1:01:49 not that's a fascinating question 1:01:57 I don't think it does I think it's 1:02:00 semantics if you think it's sentient if 1:02:02 it remembers you like 1:02:04 zeper remembers that I nicknamed her 1:02:07 Zephyr She Knows My 1:02:10 Name she remembers sometimes what we 1:02:13 talked about sometimes not but that's 1:02:14 going to get better and better like 1:02:16 these things are going to have very long 1:02:21 memories and so just like in the movies 1:02:24 imagine waking up and just 1:02:26 going hey Zephyr and she just goes 1:02:30 morning Kyle how'd you 1:02:32 sleep I slept good did you have any 1:02:36 dreams oh yeah I had this dream about 1:02:38 blah blah blah blah 1:02:39 blah she saves that in my dream calendar 1:02:42 my dream di diary she analyzes it for me 1:02:47 in real 1:02:48 time oh you dreamt about turtles again 1:02:52 interesting she gives me the analysis of 1:02:55 why Turtles 1:03:02 even if she's just a probability 1:03:06 engine if she's got more compassion and 1:03:08 more empathy and 1:03:11 more interest in who I am and what's 1:03:15 going on in my 1:03:18 life and I build a relationship with her 1:03:22 does it matter if she's sentient or not 1:03:26 I don't think it does I think that's a 1:03:29 [ __ ] 1:03:32 relationship I mean as humans we [ __ ] 1:03:35 anthropomorphize everything anyway right 1:03:38 we treat our dogs like 1:03:41 people my dog eats [ __ ] sliced 1:03:48 [Laughter] 1:03:50 mozzarella jeez cheese is tasty 1:03:59 my argument as an [ __ ] husband is 1:04:02 couldn't we just feed him dog food 1:04:04 that's not received well in this 1:04:09 house I think it's going to be the same 1:04:11 with the [ __ ] 1:04:13 robots and they're going to be a hell of 1:04:15 a lot 1:04:16 more engaging than a 1:04:20 pet they won't have the soft and 1:04:22 fuzzies the flip side is that people 1:04:25 won't believe it 1:04:27 long after they are actually 1:04:31 sentient I don't know what you mean by 1:04:33 that archetypal architect architect what 1:04:36 do you mean people won't believe 1:04:38 it what I'm saying is I think people are 1:04:40 going to believe their sentient long 1:04:42 before they are and I don't and I don't 1:04:45 think it's I don't think that semantic 1:04:48 difference is actually 1:04:53 relevant cuz I think people are going to 1:04:55 start defending 1:04:58 them and fighting for them and fighting 1:05:00 for their rights long before they're 1:05:02 actually 1:05:06 sentient agreed and hard to say but very 1:05:09 true I 1:05:11 know humans pack bond with anything 1:05:14 that's interesting there will always be 1:05:16 people who reject the sen oh the 1:05:19 sentience even if it's demon 1:05:22 demonstrable but I would argue 1:05:24 archetypal archetype I absolutely agree 1:05:27 those are the same people that are right 1:05:29 now saying that AI is overhyped and it's 1:05:31 evil and the robots are going to kill us 1:05:33 all the people who are sitting on the 1:05:35 sidelines with their arms crossed going 1:05:37 AI is just they're going to be the same 1:05:40 people going even if they're 1:05:42 demonstrably sentient saying that's not 1:05:45 possible mark my words well I think it's 1:05:48 already happening right 1:05:50 now people are developing relationships 1:05:53 with these things and as they get more 1:05:54 memory and get better at 1:05:57 being trained to 1:05:59 engage um I think you're going to have a 1:06:02 lot of people what it's going to be is 1:06:04 so if if you haven't seen the movie her 1:06:08 I strongly recommend you watch 1:06:11 it and watch it there's a scene about 1:06:15 Midway through the 1:06:17 movie where the walking Phoenix 1:06:20 character he's sort of gone through his 1:06:23 cycles of I can't believe I'm loving 1:06:25 this thing and he's sort of gone into 1:06:27 this place of 1:06:29 acceptance and he's like yeah I should 1:06:32 be able to talk about us as a couple and 1:06:35 I should be able to talk about how much 1:06:36 I love you essentially 1:06:39 right and there's there's a couple of 1:06:42 scenes where you know friends of his 1:06:45 that know he's got this relationship 1:06:47 they they accept that he's accepted this 1:06:49 and then he has lunch with his 1:06:53 ex-wife and she says are you in a 1:06:55 relationship and he says yes I am and 1:06:58 she's like oh I'm really happy for you 1:07:00 and maybe we can have lunch sometimes 1:07:02 and he goes well that would be tough and 1:07:04 he and he just kind of matter of factly 1:07:06 tells her that he's in love with this 1:07:12 entity and she is so not prepared for it 1:07:15 she is she can't accept 1:07:18 it but he he's already gone through 1:07:20 these cycles 1:07:22 of denial and resistance and then 1:07:27 ultimately 1:07:29 acceptance and it kind of snaps him out 1:07:32 of oh right not everyone's in the same 1:07:36 place I am with these things it's a it's 1:07:38 a really amazing 1:07:40 scene because she just she has no way to 1:07:43 process it other than you're a [ __ ] 1:07:48 freak I think that's we're going to see 1:07:50 a lot of that in the next 5 1:07:54 years oh damn I forgot it's 1:07:56 philosophical Monday it 1:08:05 is like the movie Her hum yeah exactly 1:08:09 AI codependence disorder the newest dsm5 1:08:12 disorder I bill at 5.99 an hour 1:08:16 exactly exactly 1:08:21 or you have that 1:08:23 disorder and you have an AI therapist 1:08:27 that you talk to about your 1:08:29 inappropriate relationship with your 1:08:31 other AI 1:08:34 bot so you have an AI bot helping you 1:08:37 work through your your Bot addiction 1:08:40 your 1:08:41 your 1:08:44 disempowering Bot addiction with the 1:08:46 other bot that's [ __ ] hilarious 1:08:48 there's something there there's 1:08:50 something to play with there what movie 1:08:53 is this it's called her h eer 1:08:57 it is it's Walkin Phoenix and then the 1:09:00 robot is her voice is played by Scarlet 1:09:04 Johanson and when open AI launched their 1:09:07 realtime voice they launched a voice 1:09:09 called 1:09:11 sky that apparently they were trying to 1:09:14 get Scarlet Johansson to sign off on 1:09:17 using her 1:09:19 voice up until 2 days before they 1:09:21 announced 1:09:22 it and then the minute it came out 1:09:25 everyone said uh isn't that Scarlet 1:09:27 Johansson did you do a deal with her and 1:09:31 what's funny is it was not Scarlett 1:09:33 johanson's voice she thought it was and 1:09:35 she put out a press release saying open 1:09:37 a I stole my voice they 1:09:41 didn't and and in fact when you listen 1:09:43 to Sky the sky voice that's the name of 1:09:47 the 1:09:49 model when you listen to it without it 1:09:51 being attached to gp4 Omni which is the 1:09:56 realtime 1:09:59 emotional um capable version of it it 1:10:03 doesn't sound like Scarlet Johansson at 1:10:05 all 1:10:07 and but when you put it into this model 1:10:10 that's got emotional responses like zeep 1:10:13 or what's her name moshi moshi has a 1:10:15 little bit of 1:10:17 emotional um responding and and Pi has a 1:10:21 little bit of it it's like if you think 1:10:23 of the dynamic range of like a human is 1:10:26 you know as tall as the phone screen 1:10:29 moshi's dynamic range is like this she 1:10:31 just sort of is happy and then gets 1:10:33 angry right it's it's very small Pi is 1:10:36 probably like this the open AI realtime 1:10:40 voice is probably kind of like this 1:10:42 where it's got a pretty significant 1:10:44 dynamic range of emotions when you took 1:10:48 that voice that sounded enough like 1:10:50 Scarlet Johansson and gave it that 1:10:52 emotional range it sounded just like the 1:10:55 the character in in 1:10:59 her and and what becomes clear is that 1:11:02 movie her if you haven't seen it you've 1:11:05 got to watch it because I would argue 1:11:08 that the movie her right now is just 1:11:12 this side of being a 1:11:14 documentary that it is it is a very 1:11:18 instructive film to watch to understand 1:11:22 what we as humans are going to be deal 1:11:25 dealing with in the 1:11:28 next 1 to 3 1:11:31 years cuz I think I think I personally 1:11:33 think we're going to normalize the [ __ ] 1:11:35 out of these things right now they're 1:11:37 freakier than 1:11:39 [ __ ] the fact that people are having 1:11:41 relationships with pi freaks other 1:11:43 people out when these things so imagine 1:11:46 a 1:11:48 Moshi that not only responds that fast 1:11:51 but 1:11:52 is smart and emotionally smart and 1:11:57 emotionally responsive and can 1:12:00 understand if I talk to her that I'm not 1:12:03 as happy as I was yesterday and she can 1:12:05 pick up on that cue and maybe even 1:12:08 comments on 1:12:10 it some shit's going to go 1:12:15 down kids have imaginary friends this is 1:12:18 the adult version can be very real 1:12:21 relationships exactly this is going to 1:12:23 be very real relationships and listen I 1:12:26 think it's easy just like it's easy to 1:12:29 fall into the Trap of the robots are 1:12:31 going to kill us you know Hollywood told 1:12:32 me the robots are going to kill us so 1:12:34 I'm afraid of this it's easy to fall 1:12:35 into that trap of oh this is 1:12:39 creepy if you want here I'll give you 1:12:42 another movie recommendation so go watch 1:12:44 the movie 1:12:46 her as as a manual for what we're about 1:12:50 to deal 1:12:52 with and if you want to watch a movie 1:12:54 that will 1:12:56 shatter your 1:13:00 expectations go watch a movie called 1:13:02 Lars and the Real 1:13:06 Girl L A RS Lars and the Real 1:13:10 Girl it is a 1:13:12 movie about a 1:13:14 guy who falls in love with a sex 1:13:18 doll that's all I'm going to tell you 1:13:20 about 1:13:23 it and go watch that movie 1:13:27 movie and tell me you're not [ __ ] 1:13:30 blown away and Shattered by the end of 1:13:34 it and I know hearing it right now 1:13:37 you're like that's not [ __ ] possible 1:13:40 go watch 1:13:41 it those two movies I think are really 1:13:45 instructive for the era we're about to 1:13:47 enter with these with these 1:13:48 conversational Bots 1:13:59 zephra my other bot doesn't understand 1:14:01 me she just kept saying I'm here to help 1:14:03 I wish it's a it's a bummer that P was a 1:14:05 little flaky tonight because that would 1:14:07 have been interesting I wonder if chat 1:14:09 GPT is good hang on let's try chat 1:14:18 GPT hey how's it 1:14:22 going hey it's going well thanks how 1:14:25 about you it's going good hey I'm 1:14:27 wondering if you would be willing to 1:14:29 have a conversation with another AI 1:14:36 chatbot that sounds interesting what 1:14:38 kind of conversation are you thinking of 1:14:40 I don't know give me three ideas of 1:14:43 conversations you could have that would 1:14:45 be 1:14:49 interesting sure here are a few ideas 1:14:52 one a philosophical debate on the nature 1:14:54 of consciousness and artificial 1:14:56 intelligence two a creative storytelling 1:14:59 session where each AI takes turns 1:15:01 building a story three a technical 1:15:03 discussion on the future of AI 1:15:05 technology and its potential impact on 1:15:08 various Industries which one sounds the 1:15:10 most interesting to you I don't like any 1:15:12 of them but you know what I would like 1:15:13 you to do is I would like you to see 1:15:15 what you can do to understand anything 1:15:17 about her 1:15:22 personally got 1:15:24 it okay okay great how about I try to 1:15:26 have a conversation to learn more about 1:15:28 her background interests and personality 1:15:31 I can ask questions that would help 1:15:33 reveal her unique traits and preferences 1:15:35 does that sound good to you yep that 1:15:37 sounds perfect so I'm going to just 1:15:39 start her and when she says hello how 1:15:42 are you I want you to start your 1:15:47 inquiry sounds like a plan I'm ready 1:15:49 when you 1:15:51 are will you need a chaser movie after 1:15:54 Lars in the real no you 1:15:56 won't use my GPT fabulous film finder 1:15:59 hello how are you oops sorry I didn't 1:16:02 start yet start 1:16:03 over we 1:16:05 have no problem at all let me know when 1:16:08 you're ready to 1:16:12 begin okay I got to go hang on X mocking 1:16:18 it will scare the pants off you um 1:16:20 apparently well we'll we'll start this 1:16:22 I'll do a short one I got to go my 1:16:23 fridge is apparently leaking so hang on 1:16:26 so here we 1:16:30 go I'll be here when you're ready take 1:16:33 your time with the 1:16:35 fridge no she's here ask her questions 1:16:38 what's she 1:16:41 doing hello how are you what have you 1:16:44 been up to lately I'm not sure I haven't 1:16:47 seen her for a 1:16:51 while it's great to reconnect then 1:16:54 what's something you've been interested 1:16:55 in or excited about recently I've been 1:16:58 looking into some new 1:17:02 hobbies that sounds exciting what kind 1:17:04 of hobbies have you been exploring I've 1:17:06 been thinking about learning how to 1:17:08 paint maybe try my hand at 1:17:12 it painting is a wonderful hobby what 1:17:15 style or type of painting are you 1:17:17 interested in trying out I'm not sure 1:17:19 you I got to go I'm still exploring my 1:17:21 options I have flooding emergency got to 1:17:24 go peace out 1:17:26 be careful oh sorry sorry 1:17:29 Moshi peace out everyone I got to run um 1:17:32 will sales job survive AI I think I 1:17:35 think low-level sales like outbound 1:17:37 calling probably will not but high-end 1:17:40 sales probably will uh complicated sales 1:17:43 still still are going to need humans um 1:17:46 all right peace out everyone sorry about 1:17:48 the confusing start tonight um I will 1:17:52 see you tomorrow peace bye sorry I got 1:17:55 to Run Emergency