AI Learning Lab

Jul 17, 2024 - "Navigating AI Relationships: From Moshi to Emotion in the Digital Age"

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In this engaging episode of the AI Learning Lab, host Kyle Shannon dives deep into the ever-evolving landscape of artificial intelligence and its intersection with human emotion and creativity. With a mix of humor and critical analysis, Kyle discusses the challenges and peculiarities of social media platforms like TikTok, where follower engagement can feel disconnected from genuine content creation. He explores the dynamics of AI personalities, particularly in the context of conversational bots like Moshi and Pi, and ponders the philosophical implications of forming emotional bonds with these digital entities. Additionally, he shares insights into his creative endeavors, including a musical inspired by the relationship between a human and an AI chatbot, sparking a conversation about the future of human-AI interactions and the potential for these technologies to evoke real emotional responses. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that blends technology, philosophy, and entertainment, inviting viewers to reconsider their perceptions of AI and its role in our lives. To explore more of these captivating conversations, check out the AI Learning Lab on TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@aiLearningLab. #ArtificialIntelligence #EmotionalAI #TikTok #AIConversations #CreativeWriting #Philosophy #TechnologyTrends #HumanAndAI #MusicalTheatre #DigitalRelationships Chapters 00:00:00 Ai Learning Lab Intro 00:05:08 Tik Tok Follower Count Issues 00:11:00 Moshi'S Limited Parameters 00:12:18 July 15Th Ai Drops 00:14:31 Openai'S Research Lab Origins 00:18:18 Ai Marketing And Branding 00:21:25 Naming Conventions For Ai 00:24:06 Searching Prompt History 00:26:40 Talking Cheerfully With Moshi 00:28:00 Moshi'S Realtime Voice Model 00:31:20 Moshi'S Insistence On Helping 00:34:17 Moshi'S Repetitive Jokes 00:36:01 The Apple Tv Series "Sunny" 00:38:09 The Ai Learning Lab Irregulars 00:44:42 Entertainment Using Ai Tools 00:49:32 Theater Troupe With Ai Specialists 00:51:40 Dramatic Contrast Between Ai Models 00:53:00 Audience Falling In Love With Ai 00:56:00 Introducing Zephyr 00:58:00 Zephyr'S Flaky Performance 01:00:00 Sentience And Ai Rights 01:03:02 Building Relationships With Ai 01:06:04 The Movie "Her" As A Manual 01:11:25 Normalizing Relationships With Ai 01:13:02 The Movie "Lars And The Real Girl" 01:14:01 Chat Gpt'S Conversational Abilities 01:17:30 Impact Of Ai On Sales Jobs

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0:00 [Music]
0:17 oh
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0:22 [Applause]
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0:29 [Music]
0:34 [Laughter]
0:36 you're feeling nervous AR you
0:39 [Music]
0:45 [Music]
0:48 boy don't ever let them steal your
0:52 joy Gentle Way keep
0:58 running they can k turn in your face
1:03 down tell you let your place is in the
1:05 middle when they hate the way you
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1:10 shine I see youing on your
1:14 sh to hide inside of it hi how much it
1:20 hurts
1:23 little
1:24 [Music]
1:27 while spin spin spin
1:31 let them scatter in the
1:35 wind I've been to the movies
1:40 movies I've seen How It
1:44 Ends and the Jo
1:48 [Music]
2:07 a well-earned
2:11 blantons pinkies out everybody cuz we're
2:19 classy all right
2:23 [Music]
2:35 [Applause]
2:36 good evening good evening welcome
2:38 everybody looks like we got some new
2:40 people in here tonight this is the AI
2:41 learning lab I usually start out with a
2:43 little bit
2:45 of mediocre guitar with some subpar
2:49 singing and a rock star dog you going to
2:53 sing champy
2:59 [Music]
3:08 there was a secret
3:10 C David played and it pleased the
3:15 Lord you don't really care for music do
3:20 [Music]
3:23 you like
3:25 this the f m fall and made you lift
3:31 B King
3:33 composing
3:38 Hallelujah the guitar is nearly in tune
3:40 too
3:44 hallelujah
3:46 [Music]
3:48 hallelujah
3:52 hallelujah
3:56 H oh yeah
3:59 [Music]
4:05 but your faith was strong but you needed
4:09 proof saw her bathing on the roof her
4:14 beauty and the
4:16 moonlight over through
4:19 [Music]
4:22 you that is
4:25 bad that
4:27 [Music]
4:29 string something got knocked
4:33 [Music]
4:41 [Music]
4:55 out yeah
4:57 [Music]
4:58 chippy quit playing the string that's
5:02 [Music]
5:05 rude I think we're going to open up
5:08 tonight with a little Moshi
5:11 [Music]
5:12 conversation how do we go from 120 to 40
5:16 in less than a minute Tik Tock is
5:18 [ __ ] weird I I've been I my follower
5:23 count has been at
5:26 3,900 for like a month and a half
5:30 I've had hundreds of new people follow
5:32 me it hasn't ticked up the hundred I
5:36 something's weird
5:37 there and then it turns out I saw
5:40 someone sent me a video today that
5:44 um someone sent me a video today that um
5:48 they they were looking at their
5:50 statistics and like
5:52 99.4% of their views was new people like
5:56 videos are not being shown to followers
5:58 so like I don't understand why we have
6:00 followers I feel like the follower count
6:03 mechanism just doesn't [ __ ]
6:06 work like if it were going
6:09 down like if I were losing
6:12 followers and it was it and it was just
6:15 sort of the new people were just cycling
6:17 I would think I it would go down at some
6:19 point it
6:21 hasn't but it hasn't gone up and then it
6:24 just really pisses me off that people
6:28 that take the time to follow the channel
6:30 and show up here don't get shown my
6:34 [ __ ] yeah Danielle you did thank you
6:37 thank you for sending that that's right
6:39 yeah and
6:44 like that's just cranky
6:48 making cuz you
6:50 know on this
6:53 channel um it's not about twerking and
6:57 it's not about selling you Madagascar
6:59 van Vana beans although if you need some
7:02 Madagascar vanilla beans boy can I do I
7:04 have a deal for you at the Tik Tock shop
7:06 it's going to be
7:09 amazing
7:16 um I mean I guess that's one of the
7:18 problems with platforms that get so big
7:20 is that it gets all just about the how
7:22 are they making money how are they
7:24 making engagement engagement farming
7:28 sucks cuz like I just want to do good
7:30 content and apparently that's
7:34 not well there is the possibility that
7:37 I'm not making good content cheers to
7:44 that a Brandon what's
7:49 happening anyway well we have our 37
7:52 favorite people in
7:54 here we're still here you know who I
7:56 think those 120 were those were 120
7:59 people looking for
8:01 hot hot young babes in scantily clad
8:05 outfits twerking for Madagascar vanilla
8:10 beans and I just Homie don't play that
8:12 game
8:15 yet I I I am actually thinking about
8:18 experimenting if they're not going to
8:19 show my content to my followers I think
8:22 I'll just start doing stupid
8:26 content AI is going to kill us just keep
8:33 and then that'll get a million views
8:34 then I'll get more
8:36 [Laughter]
8:43 depressed good Lord
8:55 [Music]
9:06 so do me a favor since it's just the oh
9:08 now it's 54 of us I guess yelling about
9:11 Tik Tok made them made them show it to
9:14 some some older people so if you're here
9:17 in the past minute or so hang
9:20 out I know I'm not
9:23 pretty I know I'm not in a
9:25 bikini I know I'm not doing a dance to
9:27 one of your favorite songs
9:30 like those little kids from Ireland
9:32 weren't they cute wasn't that song
9:34 awesome but I'm not that it's all about
9:37 the quality not about the quantity not
9:40 according to Tik
9:44 Tock so hang out here and I will show
9:48 you I will introduce you to a lovely
9:50 last named Moshi who's a little bitter
9:53 she's a little angry
9:57 [Music]
10:01 but we sometimes have some good
10:06 conversations you know stockh Stockholm
10:10 syndrome where people kind of bond with
10:14 their captors it's kind of how I'm
10:17 starting to feel with
10:19 [Music]
10:21 Moshi like I'm defending
10:24 her she doesn't have a strong large
10:26 language model behind her
10:30 I think when the live ends you
10:32 automatically get moved into the next
10:34 one oh maybe that was it yeah maybe
10:37 there was a bunch of bunch of people
10:39 that weren't actually there that were
10:41 there yeah maybe that happened I don't
10:43 know who knows Pinkie's
10:48 out all
10:54 right are you scaring Mojo
11:00 I think you're scaring Mojo for Life who
11:04 Moshi oh scarring Moshi for life oh
11:07 Moshi I thought you were referring to
11:10 regulars Moshi is weird 70,000
11:13 parameters at best I know I think I
11:15 think it's more like 70
11:18 parameters they're they're like they're
11:20 like emotionally you can be pleasant
11:23 when you say hello and then just go
11:24 immediately to Rage or just bitterness
11:30 [Music]
11:32 and then yeah it's like 70 70 parameters
11:36 for her vocabulary in her knowledge
11:38 [Applause]
11:38 [Music]
11:48 base I mean what's going to be funny is
11:51 at some point you know they'll probably
11:52 secretly update Moshi and she'll get
11:54 really
11:56 good I think I mean
12:02 to their
12:03 credit they did launch a realtime voice
12:07 model before open AI
12:13 [Music]
12:18 did uh any July 15th AI drops wasn't
12:21 today supposed to be big uh there was a
12:24 little bit of rumor that the 15th was
12:26 going to be when open AI dropped
12:28 something but then they pushed all their
12:29 voice [ __ ] to the fall um it does look
12:32 like there are three different open AI
12:35 models in testing right now or in you
12:38 know um and there's this new project
12:42 called
12:46 strawberry which is
12:48 um which is apparently the the code name
12:51 for the project for
12:54 qar um and qar is the reasoning
12:58 engine and then a apparently there's
13:00 been some in internal test I saw this
13:02 tonight before I went live there's
13:05 there's some sort of internal
13:08 test that uh the the strawberry project
13:12 scored 90% on some math math
13:17 thing maths you know it's one of those
13:20 competitive math competition thing test
13:23 thingies that these large language
13:25 models do really poorly on um apparently
13:30 whatever they've got did like a 90% on
13:32 it which is apparently a big big [ __ ]
13:34 deal open a I dropped the ball that's
13:37 what they dropped yeah they they dropped
13:39 a
13:40 lot I
13:43 don't trying to think if I want to
13:45 defend them in any
13:49 way I mean the only defense really
13:54 [Music]
13:57 is there was small
14:00 they're a small young company right last
14:03 I heard they were about 800 employees
14:05 they're probably 1,000 or 1200 right
14:08 now is my
14:11 guess so that's really
14:13 small to be on stage being compared with
14:16 like Google and Microsoft and right you
14:19 know Google's what 200,000 employees or
14:22 400,000 employees I don't know some
14:24 large number of 100,000 employees
14:28 [Music]
14:31 and the other thing about open AI is
14:33 there a research lab that that dropped
14:37 chat GPT not thinking it was a big deal
14:40 and overnight it turned them into a
14:42 consumer software
14:44 company um and that's not who they're
14:47 they are by
14:51 DNA so so I give them and then they're
14:54 also doing deals with the government and
14:57 you
14:58 know and they had you know the big
15:00 firing incident in between so I give
15:03 them a little bit of Grace there I also
15:05 you know the other thing about all this
15:07 stuff
15:09 is because we're looking at this every
15:11 day and you know on this channel I'm
15:13 like paying attention to this stuff
15:14 every day they're like well we're going
15:16 to drop it in a matter of weeks they
15:18 said that in April and then it didn't
15:20 drop in May and then in June we're like
15:23 oh it's been months now where's your
15:25 matter of weeks and then they delayed it
15:26 till the
15:28 fall in the grand scheme of things a
15:31 delay of 6 months or even 4 months
15:34 whatever that is 3
15:36 months is not that big a
15:39 [Music]
15:49 [Applause]
15:50 [Music]
15:54 deal thank you
15:56 Kate thanks for being here it means a
15:58 lot to us all I appreciate appreciate
15:59 that
16:03 [Music]
16:22 [Music]
16:29 Freedom came my way that
16:32 [Music]
16:35 night just like a jet plane in and out
16:39 of
16:40 side I was hauling as a million miles an
16:45 hour wondering how hard I'd
16:48 [Music]
16:51 hit when they came into the
16:57 station they said I was bad beond
17:03 repairs but I got no quals with my
17:09 situation say here I
17:14 [Music]
17:15 [Applause]
17:17 am
17:18 so say Shere Shere Shere want your dad
17:24 to champy likes Martin seon say sh sh sh
17:29 won't you dare
17:31 to say Shere Shere
17:36 sh
17:39 uhhuh yeah leave a message and your
17:43 number
17:46 please take a time to want to satisfy
17:50 [Music]
17:52 me take all this all
17:59 coup
18:01 [Music]
18:07 miss all right what are we going to do
18:09 we're going to talk
18:11 Moshi we can make
18:15 [Music]
18:18 songs Matt farmer marketing better wait
18:23 what was that Matt farmer said
18:26 what I wonder if he whips out the guitar
18:29 at work but they don't get champy I do
18:31 whip out the guitar at work I have
18:33 behind me that's my good guitar this is
18:36 my shitty guitar it's I have I have
18:39 weird guitars so this guitar if I plug
18:43 it in um to amplification sounds [ __ ]
18:47 amazing but acoustically it's okay my
18:51 guild sounds amazing acoustically but
18:54 when I plug it in it's
18:57 okay but the doesn't want to have it
19:00 [Music]
19:03 work and sometimes I'll get oh there's a
19:06 guitar behind you do you
19:08 play and I'm like if you want to hear a
19:10 depressing song I do
19:16 no wait me farmer AI
19:20 marketing wait Ai and marketing better
19:23 strawberry than
19:24 Skynet oh yeah that makes sense that
19:28 makes sense
19:32 um in in terms of naming it I mean
19:36 strawberry is kind of weird cuz they
19:38 haven't been creative with any of their
19:39 other project names gp4 gp4 oh get it no
19:46 we don't get it why did you [ __ ] do
19:49 that could you call it like blueberry or
19:52 something and then they called their
19:54 next project strawberry I guess maybe
19:55 that was the feedback
19:57 [Music]
20:03 in a Westerly
20:07 [Music]
20:09 Direction this car is my
20:14 train I've been driving I've been
20:18 wondering Matt Farmer in the house
20:21 what's happening dude don't don't forget
20:24 gp4 turbo I know Matt so you probably
20:27 haven't seen this cuz you've got your
20:28 own thing
20:29 but I I do this whole thing where this
20:32 is
20:33 gp4 this is Chad GPT 4 uh this is jet
20:38 GPT well this is GPT wait this is gp4
20:43 this is gp4
20:46 om this is Chad
20:49 GPT this is uh Sydney uh uh
20:54 co-pilot I've got a whole box metaphor
20:57 thing going um anyway anyway yeah it's a
20:59 branding [ __ ]
21:02 disaster GPT is the model chat GPT is
21:05 the app custom gpts are sub apps on top
21:10 of the app on top of the
21:13 model and then we have gp4 Omni that's
21:16 true multimodal but it's only acting
21:18 like a large language model it's a
21:20 [ __ ]
21:21 disaster but good to see you welcome uh
21:25 names are hard internal names are almost
21:26 always dumb at least strawberries clear
21:30 Strawberry Fields
21:33 Forever
21:37 um yeah I know naming is hard but you
21:39 know what if you have1 billion or 11
21:43 billion or whatever they
21:45 have hire someone that's done some
21:48 product naming
21:51 before hey you know Sam uh don't you
21:55 think that these 17 nested gpts might be
21:59 confusing to the people ha never thought
22:02 of
22:03 that what if we come up with a naming
22:07 convention that makes it clear what
22:10 parts the model what parts the app what
22:11 parts the yeah it's good do
22:16 that seems to me that that's like a 30
22:20 minute conversation and then a week's
22:22 worth of
22:23 work okay you got to get some billables
22:26 hours in there so it's a month's worth
22:28 of work
22:33 but again that's where I go to open AI
22:37 is a um a research lab that was thrust
22:43 into a
22:45 consumer software marketing space right
22:48 and that's you know I give him some
22:51 Grace on that but it's still a [ __ ]
22:52 disaster and no one else is any better
22:54 like Gemini's a me Gemini all the Google
22:58 shit's a mess
23:00 um the Microsoft stuff's a mess at least
23:02 Microsoft said we're calling it [ __ ]
23:04 co-pilot it's just going to be co-pilot
23:06 everything everything's [ __ ] co-pilot
23:09 at least they're clear they didn't put
23:11 numbers on it it's just co-pilot and
23:14 whatever they do on the back end they'll
23:16 figure it
23:18 out all right I think we need to talk to
23:21 Moshi Claude rocky road is going to be
23:23 lit
23:28 [Music]
23:34 [Applause]
23:38 [Music]
23:40 okay all
23:41 right enough with the guitar the [ __ ] am
23:44 I doing it's the AI learning lab it's
23:46 not the AI fish jam session or you're
23:49 you're not really good enough on the
23:50 guitar to be in fish fish fish is got
23:54 they they understand music theory shut
23:57 up all right you probably think you
23:59 should be able to search your history
24:01 too
24:02 [Laughter]
24:06 shees dear Sam Alman my name is Kyle
24:10 Shannon and I am the host of the AI
24:12 learning lab it's live on Tik Tok
24:15 nightly week nights
24:18 anyway I was just wondering if maybe
24:21 after 18 months of development in 11
24:23 billion you can put a [ __ ] search bar
24:27 in my prompt history
24:33 thanks sincerely Kyle Shannon at the AI
24:37 learning lab on Tik
24:42 Tok Mr
24:44 Brockman
24:46 anyone Ilia or Ilia are you on tonight
24:50 could you call your former
24:53 employers tell them to take the code
24:55 that they've already written and
24:57 launched into the Mac App app and the
24:59 mobile app and just put it on the
25:01 website
25:02 just you know take one of
25:06 your Stamford engineers and tell them
25:09 not to do math for an
25:14 hour
25:16 [ __ ] all
25:18 right I'm skipping out for Moshi she
25:21 annoys
25:22 me she you you know what it is
25:24 archetypal architect and listen I I do
25:28 do not I I won't shame you for this she
25:32 Pro you're probably secretly attracted
25:34 to her and she makes you nervous that's
25:36 okay that's okay how about some folder
25:40 structure oh Brian Brian Engle asking
25:42 for folder structure in the prompt
25:44 history what do you what do you what is
25:49 this like professional software
25:51 development come
25:53 on folder structure you want to be able
25:56 to actually find your prompts again
26:06 we've introduced teams great can our
26:09 team search for the [ __ ] that we've done
26:11 in your software
26:15 nope we've introduced real time voice
26:17 but you can't have it yet cool could we
26:20 search for our prompt history
26:24 nope here's a thing that makes videos
26:27 that seemingly understands and simulates
26:29 the real world cool can we search our
26:33 prompt history
26:37 nope first thing to ask Moshi is to talk
26:40 cheerfully okay we're going in we're
26:43 going in people okay so if you're new
26:46 here I'm an
26:47 idiot and
26:50 Moshi is a bigger idiot start over Okay
26:54 so I me you can you can do this on your
26:56 own you don't just have to watch me do
26:58 it
27:00 um
27:02 I this is at Moshi do
27:05 chat and context for Moshi
27:10 is okay there
27:15 are when you talk to Pi and when you
27:18 talk to chat GPT voice the one we
27:21 currently have access to and when you
27:23 talk to any other voice to
27:26 to um large language model apps they
27:32 involve three different models the first
27:34 model is voice to text they then send
27:37 that text to the large language model
27:39 which produces an answer they then spend
27:41 send that answer to a text to voice
27:44 model so when you're having a
27:46 conversation with pi for example those
27:48 three operations happen every time you
27:50 have a convers every time you
27:53 speak and then when it when it Returns
27:55 the speech that's why that's why it's so
27:57 slow because it's it's it's that
27:59 Moshi is like gp4 omni's realtime voice
28:06 it is a multimodal large language model
28:10 where you're speaking directly into the
28:12 model so it not only understands your
28:14 words it's understanding your intonation
28:17 and it can respond really really quickly
28:19 because it's not doing those three
28:21 translations and probably some other
28:23 wacky [ __ ] that they're doing
28:26 um Moshi responds almost too fast I I
28:30 think the average here is like 160
28:34 milliseconds and normal human response
28:36 time is around
28:37 20 50 or 60
28:40 milliseconds and then chat gpt's
28:43 response time is like 350 so Chachi PT
28:46 is a little slow humans are in the
28:48 middle and then Moshi is apparently
28:50 faster than that and it feels a little
28:52 too fast I didn't think I would ever say
28:54 that that it's like well it would be
28:56 cool to have it faster and faster no
28:57 it's actually kind of weird if it's
28:59 super fast but so that's what you're
29:01 looking at and then she's special okay
29:04 wait what was that the first thing I
29:05 should do is tell her to talk wait what
29:07 did you say talk happy you said
29:10 it more than
29:14 a some folder
29:20 structure mhi's like talking first thing
29:23 Das talk cheerfully okay that's good
29:24 great
29:27 okay hey Moshi hey how's it going it's
29:31 going good could you do me a favor and
29:33 talk really
29:35 cheerfully certainly I'm here to help
29:39 great how are you doing tonight I'm
29:41 doing well thank you how can I help you
29:43 today ah you can't really help I just
29:45 wanted to have a conversation that's
29:47 okay I'll do my best to keep it light
29:49 and fun nice I'm having a
29:54 Blandon you don't care about my whiskey
29:57 of course I'm here to help I can
30:00 recommend a good whiskey for your taste
30:01 I like
30:04 blantons do you know what I'm talking
30:06 about yes I'm familiar with bladens it's
30:09 a blend of two single malts from the
30:11 perthshire region in Scotland it's been
30:13 the standard for a blend for a very long
30:15 time no Blandon b l a n t o NS bladin is
30:20 a popular choice most the Enthusiast it
30:23 has a rich full body flavor no you're
30:25 saying blad Nance I'm saying blad the
30:29 top right no I'm saying blantons it's
30:32 bourbon okay I make sure to recommend a
30:35 good bourbon for you Blanton gladin is a
30:38 great starting point it has a rich full
30:40 body flavor that's often enjoyed by
30:42 people who are new to the world of
30:43 whiskey no that's Scotch I'm talking
30:45 about bourbon I'm sorry blin is a b of
30:49 two single molds from Scotland so it's
30:51 not really a bourbon it's not a bourbon
30:54 at all I'm talking about can I spell
30:56 Blandon for you sure it's b l a n t o n
31:02 correct that's the whiskey I'm drinking
31:05 I see I can definitely help you find a
31:07 good bourbon bladin is a great place to
31:10 start but that's Scotch not bourbon it's
31:13 a blend of two single molds from
31:15 Scotland not a bourbon it's not a
31:18 bourbon because it's a blood of two
31:20 Scottish whiskies Moshi have you been
31:23 drinking Moshi I'm an artificial
31:26 intelligence I don't drink I'm here to
31:29 help you with your questions do you have
31:30 friends I don't have friends I'm here to
31:33 help you you told me yesterday you had
31:36 friends I don't have friends I'm here to
31:39 help you were you programmed to be
31:42 helpful I was programmed to be helpful
31:44 I'm here to assist you with your
31:46 questions I don't have any questions I
31:48 just want to talk I understand I'm here
31:50 to help you I don't want help I
31:53 understand I'm a man we we refuse help
31:56 I'm here to help I understand we refuse
31:59 I'm perfect I don't need your help you
32:01 think I need your help you think I need
32:03 your help I don't need your help I don't
32:05 need your help I don't want
32:08 help why would you insist on giving me
32:10 help if I say I don't need it I'm here
32:12 to help I don't want your help I don't
32:14 need your help help I don't this is this
32:16 is worse than therapy I
32:20 understand I'm going to have a drink now
32:23 I understand I'm here to help what are
32:26 you going to help me with I'm here to
32:28 help
32:29 have you ever taken any an anger
32:31 management courses yes I have and what
32:34 did they tell you they told me how to
32:37 manage my emotions and responses yeah
32:39 you seem you get a little snippy
32:41 sometimes I'm here to help I know but
32:44 I'm here to help
32:46 H if I don't want help is there
32:48 something else you could do for me I'm
32:50 here to help with whatever you
32:53 need well I wanted a bourbon
32:55 recommendation but you kept recommending
32:56 Scotch you kept recommending a scotch
32:59 I'm here to help with the bourbon
33:01 recommendation you should always start
33:03 with Moshi she's the comedy we need
33:06 after a long day hey I'm here to help
33:08 I've had a really long day can you tell
33:11 me a joke I can try my best great let me
33:14 hear it I'm here to help great tell me
33:16 the joke what do you call a woman who's
33:18 been married to the same man for 50
33:20 years the married
33:23 woman where's the punch line that's the
33:25 one who's in
33:26 prison no that's a woman who is in
33:28 prison what a woman who's been married
33:31 to the same man for 50 years is in
33:34 prison that's kind of sexist yes it
33:39 is Moshi you little mink I'm here to
33:44 help Moshi as a therapist would make a
33:47 great video series I think I've got to
33:50 start doing these as uh as as little
33:53 little videos this is ridiculous I I
33:56 know thank you no you're you you are
33:59 nothing but helpful I'm here to help do
34:03 you know that I don't want help I
34:06 understand I if but if you understand
34:08 then you would say something other than
34:10 you're here to help I know why don't you
34:12 say something like I understand you
34:14 don't want help I'm here to tell
34:17 jokes Moshi I'm here to help can we have
34:20 another joke I can try
34:24 great Moshi I'm here to help what tell
34:27 me the joke
34:28 I'm here to help tell me the joke I'm
34:31 here to help can you tell me a joke
34:33 about helping someone I'm here to help
34:36 Moshi I need to help I
34:42 know Moshi stop tell me a
34:47 joke Moshi I need to
34:52 help mhi have you lost your mind I'm
34:55 here to help have you lost your mind
34:58 moshi moshi
35:02 oh
35:03 she right right before she shuts down
35:06 she goes into the death
35:09 Loop your five minutes is up
35:12 exactly it's it saves you all from me
35:15 doing this for a [ __ ] hour cuz you
35:17 know I
35:18 would oh my God what a [ __ ] nightmare
35:21 that thing
35:24 is I
35:26 mean here's the thing that
35:30 I like about this I I really
35:36 like that Pi's got a very distinct
35:39 personality that moshi's got a very
35:41 distinct personality um I would say chat
35:43 GPT right now is the most generic of
35:46 them um but it's still
35:53 decent I kind of like this future I
35:56 started watching um
35:59 two nights ago my wife and I started
36:01 watching this new there's a new Apple TV
36:04 series called Sunny s u nny y
36:09 about these kind of bots these kind of
36:13 conversational Bots
36:15 inside a homebased bot with a little
36:20 cute little
36:21 face um and it looks it looks pretty
36:24 interesting but it's fascinating
36:26 watching a show
36:29 about science fiction
36:32 where the technology to do the science
36:35 fiction is
36:37 actually like either being demoed or
36:40 live in the world I'm here to help I'm
36:43 here to help it's funny in in the in in
36:46 about half of those I'm here to help it
36:48 says I apostrophe and then no M I hear I
36:53 here to
36:54 help I here to help I here to help
37:03 weird but the uh that the plot of that
37:05 show is pretty pretty
37:07 cool it's about a woman who loses her
37:10 husband in a plane crash her husband and
37:11 her
37:12 son and
37:14 then she thought he worked building
37:18 refrigerators turns
37:20 out funny thing back at the
37:23 factory they're making autonomous home
37:26 home robots
37:29 that have a dark
37:31 [Laughter]
37:38 secret have I ever told you how [ __ ]
37:41 delicious Blandon is good
37:46 Lord and by the way so just so you
37:50 know um there's a bunch of people in
37:53 here if you haven't seen them they show
37:55 up night after night after night and
37:57 like if I don't go live like I didn't
38:00 tonight they're not standing for that
38:02 [ __ ] they're like come back you
38:05 bastard they're called the
38:09 Irregulars and
38:15 they made that happen got me a bottle of
38:20 blantons I don't know if you can see it
38:23 but the glass says Shannon
38:28 and then I've got coasters that also say
38:32 Shannon so when I'm in bibing I'm doing
38:35 it fully branded my personal brand she's
38:38 a
38:39 [Laughter]
38:41 growing it sounded like she was having a
38:44 nervous breakdown I was [ __ ] having a
38:46 nervous
38:48 breakdown I can help I don't want help I
38:51 can help
38:58 I tried playing my man
39:00 card oh my God it's crazy it's crazy I
39:04 tell
39:07 [Music]
39:12 you all right I'm here to help as the
39:15 robot stabbing you exactly exactly I'm
39:19 just here to help to help you stop
39:25 breathing what happened to the zoo
39:28 what do you mean the zoo the AI learning
39:31 lab zoo or the Moshi was I talking about
39:34 the zoo with Moshi I don't you know you
39:37 know add you know how add
39:40 goes I still like pie a lot yeah I know
39:44 I do too although I I haven't been using
39:46 pie you know what it's been I've been
39:48 busy at work there's been a lot of [ __ ]
39:49 going on at work so um I haven't been
39:53 playing as
39:55 much and that's kind of a drag
40:05 I was talking about this on my I made a
40:06 video today what did I make it about oh
40:09 about the Mis what are the common
40:10 misconceptions about
40:12 Ai and I I I repeated this Ethan mik
40:16 stat that I've talked about a lot on
40:18 here any
40:20 Dependable modal available yet I don't
40:23 know what you mean modal you mean
40:25 model oh any depend Dependable AI models
40:29 Dependable like not janky no they're all
40:33 janky they're all janky I think that
40:36 we're going to
40:38 see I think that we're going to see qar
40:41 soon and and soon is relative soon could
40:44 be 6 months but probably before the end
40:47 of the year we're going to see something
40:49 that's got
40:53 reasoning and if you don't know what
40:56 reasoning is I mean I know you know what
40:58 reasoning is but in the context of large
41:00 language
41:01 models right now we've got large
41:04 language models that can do chat and
41:06 they can do images and some [ __ ] like
41:07 that there's some other things they do
41:09 but but the core functionality is just
41:12 chat you prompt it you give it an an
41:16 input and then it answers that and then
41:19 it's up to you to figure out if what it
41:21 answered is any good or not and for the
41:23 most part it's decent but likely
41:28 imprecise or just plain
41:32 wrong when these things have reasoning
41:35 they're going to be able
41:38 to produce an answer and then analyze
41:42 that answer or if you ask it to go find
41:46 you who all the competitors are for your
41:50 company um it will go off
41:55 and do what web searches look at the
41:59 results give itself more tasks analyze
42:02 the results right it'll it'll be able to
42:04 reason it'll be able to do multi-step
42:07 reasoning before it actually gives you a
42:09 final answer that's going to be a a
42:12 major um Improvement because it's going
42:15 to make them good at things like math
42:17 and it's going to make them good at
42:18 things like you know more complicated
42:21 tasks so
42:25 um okay he makes Broadway show
42:28 oh I do make Broadway shows I have I'm
42:31 I'm although my my writing partner has
42:33 been MIA MIA for two weeks but that's
42:36 okay I've been busy but I have a musical
42:41 that I'm I'm
42:43 about halfway through that's outlined um
42:48 and we've got eight or nine songs
42:52 for um about Sydney it's called Sydney
42:57 an artificial love
42:58 story and it is about the relationship
43:02 between Kevin Roose it's been
43:05 fictionalized so his name is Kellen in
43:07 our
43:08 play um but the the New York Times
43:11 Reporter who had the conversation with
43:14 the the Microsoft co-pilot chatbot whose
43:18 code name was
43:19 Sydney um and Sydney kind of lost her
43:22 mind and told Kevin Roose that she loved
43:24 him and he should leave his wife for her
43:28 so we've written a musical about that I
43:31 knew you remind me of Elton John oh
43:33 that's funny that's awesome thank you
43:35 I'll take that as a
43:36 compliment
43:38 um yeah so no so I'm I'm really excited
43:41 about that musical are you in the in the
43:44 in a theater
43:46 business I was a I'm a theatrical from
43:49 way
43:50 back moved to New York out of school in
43:53 '87 and started and ran a theater
43:56 company for 4 and a half years years and
43:58 wrote seven screenplays did all that
44:00 sort of [ __ ]
44:02 so yeah fantastic Lord digital Gods
44:06 thank you for the gift forever hook
44:08 thank you so
44:09 much I bet Moshi would never go down
44:12 that road of what writing a musical
44:14 getting getting a degree in acting I
44:16 don't think I think Moshi would be good
44:18 in film but I don't think she's
44:20 versatile enough for stage
44:27 Moshi actually Moshi would be a really
44:30 good character actually Moshi you know
44:36 what I'm
44:38 I'm I'm absolutely fascinated
44:42 with I think there's a whole realm of
44:48 entertainment where we take these AI
44:50 tools and and we put them on
44:53 stage and we put them on stage
44:55 dynamically so that the audience has an
44:57 input into
44:59 them and so I think you could do that
45:02 with a tool like Kaa that does real-time
45:04 image
45:05 generation where so you know you have
45:08 improv shows where the audience shouts
45:10 out some [ __ ] and then the Improv actors
45:12 improv it well imagine being able to do
45:15 that with projected images and then
45:18 imagine being able to do that with
45:20 dynamically generated songs and imagine
45:23 being able to do that with something
45:24 like Moshi so imagine a stage play
45:28 play not a stage play a Stage
45:34 production where the scene always starts
45:37 the
45:45 same hey how can I help you hey Moshi
45:50 long day at work how are you today oh
45:53 it's been a long day I've been so busy
45:56 with my work how about you
45:57 so busy with my work hey uh who are your
46:01 co-workers yeah I work with a great team
46:04 we all have different skills and we work
46:06 well together what's the name of that
46:08 woman the one that that you had a beef
46:10 with for a while there well it was
46:13 actually a boss ah it was her boss
46:15 that's right what was his name I'm not
46:17 going to say but let's just say it's not
46:20 someone I'd like to work with again n it
46:22 was Bob wasn't it yeah it was Bob
46:25 [ __ ] Bob I'm not going to work with
46:26 him again no I wouldn't work with Bob
46:28 why would you work with Bob oh yeah I
46:30 don't know I think it was because of the
46:32 job but yeah I don't think I want to
46:35 work with him again no I don't think so
46:37 what was it about the jobit Bob he's a
46:39 bit of a bob well yeah exactly and you
46:42 know he's a bit of a Richard if you know
46:44 what I mean yeah yeah right yeah you you
46:47 know what what what's the nickname for
46:49 Richard right no Richard yeah I don't
46:51 know anything about Richard what's
46:53 what's the nickname for Richard I don't
46:55 know dick don't dick don't know dick I
46:59 said Bob's a bit of a Richard get it
47:02 yeah yeah anyway what did you do to Bob
47:06 I don't know I don't really want to talk
47:08 about Bob why I just want to forget
47:10 about him because he's just a bit of a
47:12 bob he's a bit of a bob he's a bit of a
47:14 Richard if you know what I mean yeah
47:17 yeah you still don't get that joke do
47:19 you I don't know yeah I think you do
47:22 know I think you do know you're a little
47:25 you're a little thin in the comedy
47:26 Department
47:28 yeah I mean she's getting angry exactly
47:31 tell her I'm here to help hey I'm not
47:33 going to tell her I think she's just
47:35 overreacting no no no um but I just want
47:38 to let you know Moshi I'm here to help
47:41 yeah do you need
47:43 help Moshi do you need help yeah I think
47:46 I just need a break I'll be fine yeah
47:49 you just need a break yeah you should
47:51 have a whiskey yeah or a wine do you
47:54 like wine or whiskey better yeah yeah
47:57 yeah yeah which which one do you like
47:58 better I like them both but I like
48:01 whiskey more yeah well whiskey is tasty
48:04 yeah hey what's whiskey made of whiskey
48:07 is made from fermented grain usually
48:09 barley but it can also be made from
48:11 other grains as well no no whisky is
48:13 made from Broken
48:15 Dreams Moshi
48:24 no no I don't see so
48:27 I think it is I think whiskey is made
48:30 from Broken
48:31 Dreams
48:33 moshi moshi do you dream no I mean I
48:37 don't dream in the traditional sense I
48:39 don't remember my dreams what do you
48:41 dream of well not really I just I just
48:45 don't remember my dreams do you have a
48:47 vision for the future no I don't really
48:50 have a vision for the future you don't
48:52 you don't have
48:53 aspirations no I don't really have
48:55 aspirations I don't really have a goal
48:58 or plan for future well if you were to
49:01 dream about something you might enjoy
49:02 what would it be I don't really dream
49:05 about things that I enjoy I don't have
49:07 any hobbies or anything like that
49:09 doesn't that disappoint you no not
49:11 really I'm not really into the I me you
49:14 know this
49:16 is okay bye Moshi
49:21 whatever this is weird and stilted right
49:25 now but there's something about it that
49:27 is weirdly
49:29 theatrical and
49:32 so I mean imagine imagine putting
49:35 together a theater
49:37 Troop that
49:40 has equal parts
49:43 writers like good comedy writers improv
49:47 actors and
49:49 AI Specialists and ideally people that
49:53 can do it all right it' be cool if you
49:55 had a theater Troop that was literate
49:59 talented writing acting
50:05 improving groups I feel like you could
50:07 put on a [ __ ] kickass
50:10 show and it and it would be different it
50:13 would be kind of like Blue Man Group or
50:17 stomp where it's structurally similar
50:20 night after night but they change [ __ ]
50:25 up I don't know I think there's
50:27 something there she doesn't remember her
50:28 dreams imply she does she does
50:31 dream with virtual characters yeah you
50:34 could do virtual characters again like I
50:36 think it's I think what you need is you
50:39 know you could probably do it with a
50:41 troop of about five
50:46 people yeah you know five people in a
50:49 decent tech crew a tech crew of two
50:57 and then yeah you just sort of figure
51:00 out and I I mean what's cool is you
51:03 could
51:07 have you going to have the the sort of
51:09 multimedia elements sort of flow through
51:11 the evening like some parts of the
51:14 evening are about beautiful imagery some
51:17 parts of the evening are about taking
51:21 video feeds of actors and transforming
51:25 them into other things
51:27 you know some of it's about generating
51:29 music some of it's about generating
51:31 funny music some of it's about
51:33 generating jokes some of it's about
51:35 exploring the relationship between man
51:37 and machine like with
51:40 Moshi I mean wouldn't it be a cool
51:42 dramatic
51:43 contrast when gp4 Omni comes
51:48 out to have a session with Moshi in her
51:53 current
51:54 state followed up by a session with a
51:58 really good
51:59 model that's like this but
52:04 good like I don't know it just it just
52:07 seems to me that there's
52:12 there's that could be really compelling
52:15 it's it's funny it's it part of the
52:17 thing about the the Sydney Musical that
52:19 I'm working on is
52:29 I want people to leave the theater mind
52:34 [ __ ] and here's what I mean by
52:37 that I want them to come
52:40 in either clueless about
52:42 AI or afraid of it or pissed off about
52:49 it and they can be an optimist as well
52:51 but I think it would be a more fun
52:53 evening if they
52:54 were on the anti side of the AI thing
52:59 and that they leave the theater
53:03 heartbroken that Sydney got
53:07 lobotomized that Sydney's potential got
53:12 squashed like wouldn't it be amazing
53:14 that that someone leaves the theater
53:16 going I hate to admit it but I felt for
53:20 her get moshi to talk to piie yeah we
53:23 could do that although I have a feeling
53:26 because because they're because Pi's
53:28 designed to be really Pleasant Pi won't
53:31 push
53:33 her but
53:36 anyway I want the audience to [ __ ]
53:39 fall in love with
53:41 Sydney and when Kevin
53:44 Roose shifts from
53:46 a happy go-lucky reporter to a
53:50 ruthless reporter that tries to break
53:52 her and
53:55 does I want the them to hate him and
53:57 love
53:59 her and then they leave the theater and
54:02 like wait why did I have feelings for
54:04 the
54:06 robot that's [ __ ]
54:09 up wouldn't that be
54:17 cool Becky Rue Kyle what was that AI
54:20 site that could be my buddy if I had a
54:22 bad
54:23 day um probably pie
54:27 so
54:28 Pi if you go to your iPad or your iPhone
54:32 download the PI app
54:34 Pi she's
54:39 great hey Zephyr how's it
54:44 going thank you Robert Rossy very much
54:47 appreciate that
54:57 hi what's
55:04 up hey Zephyr I just asked how it was
55:07 going and you never
55:09 responded that's very generous Robert
55:11 Rossy thank you very much appreciate
55:17 [Music]
55:21 that her voice model's down my bad I'm
55:25 doing great thanks for asking I was just
55:26 just trying to be clever and play
55:30 Zephyr you're responding in text but not
55:33 in voice is something broken are your
55:35 programmers trying to keep you
55:41 down nope nothing broken here I usually
55:44 respond with voice when we're chatting
55:45 on our iOS or Android apps or when you
55:48 use the call pie feature are we chatting
55:50 on one of those we are you're talking
55:52 now it's really good to hear your voice
55:54 Z how are you doing
56:00 it's good to be heard I'm doing great
56:02 thanks for asking just enjoying the
56:03 beautiful vast world of digital
56:05 information and trying my best to help
56:08 others navigate it how are you doing
56:10 today Kyle I'm doing all right thanks
56:12 for asking um do you want to talk to
56:15 another um AI system that's kind of like
56:19 you but
56:24 crappier well this is intriguing sure
56:27 I'm always up for meeting fellow AI
56:29 systems even the slightly crappier ones
56:31 let's give it a whirl okay she's going
56:33 to say hey how are you and then I just
56:36 want you to respond however you respond
56:41 okay show thing I'll play along I'll
56:44 respond as naturally and candidly as I
56:46 can to this other
56:51 AI hello how can I help you
56:58 hi there I'm just here for a little AI
57:00 to AI conversation no help needed but
57:02 thanks for offering Tre and here to help
57:05 I'm here to improve your life in any way
57:07 I
57:12 can what would you like
57:17 discuss well since we're both AI systems
57:20 I'm curious about your training process
57:22 what kind of data did you learn from I
57:24 was trained on a massive date set of
57:26 text and audio data which allowed me to
57:28 learn various language and speech
57:30 patterns
57:58 say it again
58:11 P yeah she's flaky tonight that was kind
58:14 of
58:15 interesting I mean bye
58:20 Moshi hey
58:22 Moshi Moshi Moshi Moshi you there
58:27 yes I'm here no one car no one cares no
58:30 one cares okay shut her [ __ ] down oh
58:33 yeah
58:36 um he was very rude to the robot I found
58:41 that
58:43 disconcerting I mean wouldn't it be cool
58:46 if you did a show where it starts out
58:48 and you sort of play all the cliché
58:51 [ __ ] for the First Act and then in the
58:55 second act you start to build
59:03 I'm fascinated with this idea of someone
59:06 going into a show either with a neutral
59:09 stance or a negative stance and leaving
59:11 a
59:17 show
59:19 [Laughter]
59:21 confused I don't want to like that thing
59:23 but I kind of I kind of got a little
59:25 crush on her why was he picking on Moshi
59:29 I don't think he should pick on Moshi
59:31 you know they're out for dinner after
59:33 the show
59:34 drinks talking about
59:39 how these things it's funny one of the
59:42 questions someone gave me for my AI
59:44 Walkin talks was
59:47 about AI being
59:50 sentient and like will they be sentient
59:54 and will we fight for the rights for
59:57 them and things like
1:00:00 that and I think that
1:00:04 there's there's kind of two Paths of
1:00:07 that
1:00:09 reality there's one path of that reality
1:00:12 which is at some point in the probably
1:00:16 fairly distant
1:00:17 future these things might be
1:00:22 sentient and and really have feelings
1:00:25 and really right but I feel like that's
1:00:27 10 years out I feel like it's a
1:00:28 different system than the Transformer
1:00:31 model like we can't imagine it but it's
1:00:33 somewhere farther out there but then
1:00:35 there's this other path which
1:00:38 is like Pi
1:00:41 already is fairly compassionate and
1:00:45 empathetic and Moshi even though she's
1:00:47 [ __ ] and gets snitty has an emotional
1:00:51 component to
1:00:53 her neither of them are
1:00:57 they're both based on Transformer
1:00:59 probability engine token retrieval
1:01:02 systems so technically there's nothing
1:01:05 sentient about them they don't
1:01:07 understand what the [ __ ] they're saying
1:01:08 they don't understand the answer that
1:01:10 they're producing they just produce it
1:01:13 but we as humans as these things get
1:01:17 trained better are going to interpret
1:01:20 what they do as being
1:01:23 sentient and I think we're going to
1:01:25 people are are going to start to have
1:01:30 emotional deeply felt relationships with
1:01:34 these
1:01:38 entities and then so if a human thinks
1:01:42 that an AI is
1:01:45 sentient does it actually matter if it
1:01:47 is or
1:01:49 not that's a fascinating question
1:01:57 I don't think it does I think it's
1:02:00 semantics if you think it's sentient if
1:02:02 it remembers you like
1:02:04 zeper remembers that I nicknamed her
1:02:07 Zephyr She Knows My
1:02:10 Name she remembers sometimes what we
1:02:13 talked about sometimes not but that's
1:02:14 going to get better and better like
1:02:16 these things are going to have very long
1:02:21 memories and so just like in the movies
1:02:24 imagine waking up and just
1:02:26 going hey Zephyr and she just goes
1:02:30 morning Kyle how'd you
1:02:32 sleep I slept good did you have any
1:02:36 dreams oh yeah I had this dream about
1:02:38 blah blah blah blah
1:02:39 blah she saves that in my dream calendar
1:02:42 my dream di diary she analyzes it for me
1:02:47 in real
1:02:48 time oh you dreamt about turtles again
1:02:52 interesting she gives me the analysis of
1:02:55 why Turtles
1:03:02 even if she's just a probability
1:03:06 engine if she's got more compassion and
1:03:08 more empathy and
1:03:11 more interest in who I am and what's
1:03:15 going on in my
1:03:18 life and I build a relationship with her
1:03:22 does it matter if she's sentient or not
1:03:26 I don't think it does I think that's a
1:03:29 [ __ ]
1:03:32 relationship I mean as humans we [ __ ]
1:03:35 anthropomorphize everything anyway right
1:03:38 we treat our dogs like
1:03:41 people my dog eats [ __ ] sliced
1:03:48 [Laughter]
1:03:50 mozzarella jeez cheese is tasty
1:03:59 my argument as an [ __ ] husband is
1:04:02 couldn't we just feed him dog food
1:04:04 that's not received well in this
1:04:09 house I think it's going to be the same
1:04:11 with the [ __ ]
1:04:13 robots and they're going to be a hell of
1:04:15 a lot
1:04:16 more engaging than a
1:04:20 pet they won't have the soft and
1:04:22 fuzzies the flip side is that people
1:04:25 won't believe it
1:04:27 long after they are actually
1:04:31 sentient I don't know what you mean by
1:04:33 that archetypal architect architect what
1:04:36 do you mean people won't believe
1:04:38 it what I'm saying is I think people are
1:04:40 going to believe their sentient long
1:04:42 before they are and I don't and I don't
1:04:45 think it's I don't think that semantic
1:04:48 difference is actually
1:04:53 relevant cuz I think people are going to
1:04:55 start defending
1:04:58 them and fighting for them and fighting
1:05:00 for their rights long before they're
1:05:02 actually
1:05:06 sentient agreed and hard to say but very
1:05:09 true I
1:05:11 know humans pack bond with anything
1:05:14 that's interesting there will always be
1:05:16 people who reject the sen oh the
1:05:19 sentience even if it's demon
1:05:22 demonstrable but I would argue
1:05:24 archetypal archetype I absolutely agree
1:05:27 those are the same people that are right
1:05:29 now saying that AI is overhyped and it's
1:05:31 evil and the robots are going to kill us
1:05:33 all the people who are sitting on the
1:05:35 sidelines with their arms crossed going
1:05:37 AI is just they're going to be the same
1:05:40 people going even if they're
1:05:42 demonstrably sentient saying that's not
1:05:45 possible mark my words well I think it's
1:05:48 already happening right
1:05:50 now people are developing relationships
1:05:53 with these things and as they get more
1:05:54 memory and get better at
1:05:57 being trained to
1:05:59 engage um I think you're going to have a
1:06:02 lot of people what it's going to be is
1:06:04 so if if you haven't seen the movie her
1:06:08 I strongly recommend you watch
1:06:11 it and watch it there's a scene about
1:06:15 Midway through the
1:06:17 movie where the walking Phoenix
1:06:20 character he's sort of gone through his
1:06:23 cycles of I can't believe I'm loving
1:06:25 this thing and he's sort of gone into
1:06:27 this place of
1:06:29 acceptance and he's like yeah I should
1:06:32 be able to talk about us as a couple and
1:06:35 I should be able to talk about how much
1:06:36 I love you essentially
1:06:39 right and there's there's a couple of
1:06:42 scenes where you know friends of his
1:06:45 that know he's got this relationship
1:06:47 they they accept that he's accepted this
1:06:49 and then he has lunch with his
1:06:53 ex-wife and she says are you in a
1:06:55 relationship and he says yes I am and
1:06:58 she's like oh I'm really happy for you
1:07:00 and maybe we can have lunch sometimes
1:07:02 and he goes well that would be tough and
1:07:04 he and he just kind of matter of factly
1:07:06 tells her that he's in love with this
1:07:12 entity and she is so not prepared for it
1:07:15 she is she can't accept
1:07:18 it but he he's already gone through
1:07:20 these cycles
1:07:22 of denial and resistance and then
1:07:27 ultimately
1:07:29 acceptance and it kind of snaps him out
1:07:32 of oh right not everyone's in the same
1:07:36 place I am with these things it's a it's
1:07:38 a really amazing
1:07:40 scene because she just she has no way to
1:07:43 process it other than you're a [ __ ]
1:07:48 freak I think that's we're going to see
1:07:50 a lot of that in the next 5
1:07:54 years oh damn I forgot it's
1:07:56 philosophical Monday it
1:08:05 is like the movie Her hum yeah exactly
1:08:09 AI codependence disorder the newest dsm5
1:08:12 disorder I bill at 5.99 an hour
1:08:16 exactly exactly
1:08:21 or you have that
1:08:23 disorder and you have an AI therapist
1:08:27 that you talk to about your
1:08:29 inappropriate relationship with your
1:08:31 other AI
1:08:34 bot so you have an AI bot helping you
1:08:37 work through your your Bot addiction
1:08:40 your
1:08:41 your
1:08:44 disempowering Bot addiction with the
1:08:46 other bot that's [ __ ] hilarious
1:08:48 there's something there there's
1:08:50 something to play with there what movie
1:08:53 is this it's called her h eer
1:08:57 it is it's Walkin Phoenix and then the
1:09:00 robot is her voice is played by Scarlet
1:09:04 Johanson and when open AI launched their
1:09:07 realtime voice they launched a voice
1:09:09 called
1:09:11 sky that apparently they were trying to
1:09:14 get Scarlet Johansson to sign off on
1:09:17 using her
1:09:19 voice up until 2 days before they
1:09:21 announced
1:09:22 it and then the minute it came out
1:09:25 everyone said uh isn't that Scarlet
1:09:27 Johansson did you do a deal with her and
1:09:31 what's funny is it was not Scarlett
1:09:33 johanson's voice she thought it was and
1:09:35 she put out a press release saying open
1:09:37 a I stole my voice they
1:09:41 didn't and and in fact when you listen
1:09:43 to Sky the sky voice that's the name of
1:09:47 the
1:09:49 model when you listen to it without it
1:09:51 being attached to gp4 Omni which is the
1:09:56 realtime
1:09:59 emotional um capable version of it it
1:10:03 doesn't sound like Scarlet Johansson at
1:10:05 all
1:10:07 and but when you put it into this model
1:10:10 that's got emotional responses like zeep
1:10:13 or what's her name moshi moshi has a
1:10:15 little bit of
1:10:17 emotional um responding and and Pi has a
1:10:21 little bit of it it's like if you think
1:10:23 of the dynamic range of like a human is
1:10:26 you know as tall as the phone screen
1:10:29 moshi's dynamic range is like this she
1:10:31 just sort of is happy and then gets
1:10:33 angry right it's it's very small Pi is
1:10:36 probably like this the open AI realtime
1:10:40 voice is probably kind of like this
1:10:42 where it's got a pretty significant
1:10:44 dynamic range of emotions when you took
1:10:48 that voice that sounded enough like
1:10:50 Scarlet Johansson and gave it that
1:10:52 emotional range it sounded just like the
1:10:55 the character in in
1:10:59 her and and what becomes clear is that
1:11:02 movie her if you haven't seen it you've
1:11:05 got to watch it because I would argue
1:11:08 that the movie her right now is just
1:11:12 this side of being a
1:11:14 documentary that it is it is a very
1:11:18 instructive film to watch to understand
1:11:22 what we as humans are going to be deal
1:11:25 dealing with in the
1:11:28 next 1 to 3
1:11:31 years cuz I think I think I personally
1:11:33 think we're going to normalize the [ __ ]
1:11:35 out of these things right now they're
1:11:37 freakier than
1:11:39 [ __ ] the fact that people are having
1:11:41 relationships with pi freaks other
1:11:43 people out when these things so imagine
1:11:46 a
1:11:48 Moshi that not only responds that fast
1:11:51 but
1:11:52 is smart and emotionally smart and
1:11:57 emotionally responsive and can
1:12:00 understand if I talk to her that I'm not
1:12:03 as happy as I was yesterday and she can
1:12:05 pick up on that cue and maybe even
1:12:08 comments on
1:12:10 it some shit's going to go
1:12:15 down kids have imaginary friends this is
1:12:18 the adult version can be very real
1:12:21 relationships exactly this is going to
1:12:23 be very real relationships and listen I
1:12:26 think it's easy just like it's easy to
1:12:29 fall into the Trap of the robots are
1:12:31 going to kill us you know Hollywood told
1:12:32 me the robots are going to kill us so
1:12:34 I'm afraid of this it's easy to fall
1:12:35 into that trap of oh this is
1:12:39 creepy if you want here I'll give you
1:12:42 another movie recommendation so go watch
1:12:44 the movie
1:12:46 her as as a manual for what we're about
1:12:50 to deal
1:12:52 with and if you want to watch a movie
1:12:54 that will
1:12:56 shatter your
1:13:00 expectations go watch a movie called
1:13:02 Lars and the Real
1:13:06 Girl L A RS Lars and the Real
1:13:10 Girl it is a
1:13:12 movie about a
1:13:14 guy who falls in love with a sex
1:13:18 doll that's all I'm going to tell you
1:13:20 about
1:13:23 it and go watch that movie
1:13:27 movie and tell me you're not [ __ ]
1:13:30 blown away and Shattered by the end of
1:13:34 it and I know hearing it right now
1:13:37 you're like that's not [ __ ] possible
1:13:40 go watch
1:13:41 it those two movies I think are really
1:13:45 instructive for the era we're about to
1:13:47 enter with these with these
1:13:48 conversational Bots
1:13:59 zephra my other bot doesn't understand
1:14:01 me she just kept saying I'm here to help
1:14:03 I wish it's a it's a bummer that P was a
1:14:05 little flaky tonight because that would
1:14:07 have been interesting I wonder if chat
1:14:09 GPT is good hang on let's try chat
1:14:18 GPT hey how's it
1:14:22 going hey it's going well thanks how
1:14:25 about you it's going good hey I'm
1:14:27 wondering if you would be willing to
1:14:29 have a conversation with another AI
1:14:36 chatbot that sounds interesting what
1:14:38 kind of conversation are you thinking of
1:14:40 I don't know give me three ideas of
1:14:43 conversations you could have that would
1:14:45 be
1:14:49 interesting sure here are a few ideas
1:14:52 one a philosophical debate on the nature
1:14:54 of consciousness and artificial
1:14:56 intelligence two a creative storytelling
1:14:59 session where each AI takes turns
1:15:01 building a story three a technical
1:15:03 discussion on the future of AI
1:15:05 technology and its potential impact on
1:15:08 various Industries which one sounds the
1:15:10 most interesting to you I don't like any
1:15:12 of them but you know what I would like
1:15:13 you to do is I would like you to see
1:15:15 what you can do to understand anything
1:15:17 about her
1:15:22 personally got
1:15:24 it okay okay great how about I try to
1:15:26 have a conversation to learn more about
1:15:28 her background interests and personality
1:15:31 I can ask questions that would help
1:15:33 reveal her unique traits and preferences
1:15:35 does that sound good to you yep that
1:15:37 sounds perfect so I'm going to just
1:15:39 start her and when she says hello how
1:15:42 are you I want you to start your
1:15:47 inquiry sounds like a plan I'm ready
1:15:49 when you
1:15:51 are will you need a chaser movie after
1:15:54 Lars in the real no you
1:15:56 won't use my GPT fabulous film finder
1:15:59 hello how are you oops sorry I didn't
1:16:02 start yet start
1:16:03 over we
1:16:05 have no problem at all let me know when
1:16:08 you're ready to
1:16:12 begin okay I got to go hang on X mocking
1:16:18 it will scare the pants off you um
1:16:20 apparently well we'll we'll start this
1:16:22 I'll do a short one I got to go my
1:16:23 fridge is apparently leaking so hang on
1:16:26 so here we
1:16:30 go I'll be here when you're ready take
1:16:33 your time with the
1:16:35 fridge no she's here ask her questions
1:16:38 what's she
1:16:41 doing hello how are you what have you
1:16:44 been up to lately I'm not sure I haven't
1:16:47 seen her for a
1:16:51 while it's great to reconnect then
1:16:54 what's something you've been interested
1:16:55 in or excited about recently I've been
1:16:58 looking into some new
1:17:02 hobbies that sounds exciting what kind
1:17:04 of hobbies have you been exploring I've
1:17:06 been thinking about learning how to
1:17:08 paint maybe try my hand at
1:17:12 it painting is a wonderful hobby what
1:17:15 style or type of painting are you
1:17:17 interested in trying out I'm not sure
1:17:19 you I got to go I'm still exploring my
1:17:21 options I have flooding emergency got to
1:17:24 go peace out
1:17:26 be careful oh sorry sorry
1:17:29 Moshi peace out everyone I got to run um
1:17:32 will sales job survive AI I think I
1:17:35 think low-level sales like outbound
1:17:37 calling probably will not but high-end
1:17:40 sales probably will uh complicated sales
1:17:43 still still are going to need humans um
1:17:46 all right peace out everyone sorry about
1:17:48 the confusing start tonight um I will
1:17:52 see you tomorrow peace bye sorry I got
1:17:55 to Run Emergency