3/11/2025 - Vibe Coding & Storytelling: Exploring AI's Creative Potential

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0:02 [Music]
0:29 don't ever let them still a joy
0:32 [Music]
1:19 of a dear old
1:21 [Music]
1:22 [Applause]
1:23 [Music]
1:25 friend can't remember the words tonight
1:28 [Music]
1:32 [Applause]
1:35 [Music]
1:41 Champion is in fine form he really is
1:43 isn't
1:45 [Music]
1:55 he it's not simple to say
2:03 days I don't recognize me that these
2:07 shoes and this apron that place and its
2:12 patience have taken more than I gave
2:17 them it's not easy to
2:21 know I'm not
2:24 anything like I used to be all it's true
2:29 I was never
2:31 attention sweet Center has to remember
2:35 that
2:37 girl she's
2:39 imperfect but she
2:41 tries she is good but she
2:46 lies she is hard on
2:51 herself she is broken but won't ask for
2:55 help she is messy but she's kind
3:01 she's
3:03 lonely most of the time she's all of
3:07 this mixed up and baked beautiful
3:12 pie she's gone but she used to
3:19 be all right good people are we ready to
3:23 do some Vibe storytelling some Vibe
3:25 coding some Vibe being are we ready to
3:28 vibe
3:30 it kind of hit me last night I think
3:32 that's what this channel is
3:34 about this just about vibing just about
3:37 [ __ ] hanging
3:38 out
3:41 vibing let something spin up an
3:44 inspiration in
3:45 you you
3:47 know the AI vibing lab
3:50 [Music]
4:06 I wonder if it's going to be a TI raade
4:07 Tuesday I'm not all that pissed off but
4:10 someone could ask a question that'll
4:11 just send me [ __ ] South you know just
4:15 like every night's got
4:16 that it's got that edge doesn't it I
4:19 could just go I could just
4:21 [ __ ] go off on a [ __ ] button not
4:26 having a right rollover state
4:31 vibing with
4:33 Kyle the vibe tribe I like
4:38 it yall are cute you are regulars
4:42 [ __ ] weird man we're not weird we're
4:44 regular no you you're weird love it all
4:49 right Vibe
4:51 venting hey Sor Camp was
4:55 shaking k k him from Cleveland in the
4:58 house
5:05 you leaving me
5:06 [Music]
5:18 champy there's been something baby I've
5:21 been trying to
5:24 say for an age and it seems I don't know
5:28 how
5:31 with the past and the future now
5:33 surrounding
5:36 me surrendered to whatever Tre can be
5:41 found there's been there's been a little
5:46 trouble since you came to my
5:53 rescue and if you like all of the rest I
5:56 would have quit you long ago but I
5:59 couldn't do that
6:00 [Music]
6:04 oh tell me now women and why never went
6:08 too
6:10 well make a man crazy make him cold as
6:16 hell I'm a woman that you wish me
6:20 well but in spot of your try still going
6:24 to have to find my way through
6:29 [Music]
6:39 um what are we gonna do tonight
6:44 so a thing struck
6:48 me what a rock hit you in the head
6:50 because you seem like you're kind of a
6:51 dumb
6:54 dumb um a thing struck me so so part of
6:59 my neurosis about this show is like okay
7:01 what am I going to teach what am I going
7:02 to teach cuz I called it the [ __ ] AI
7:04 learning lab
7:05 right which hence the hence the
7:08 questions I always get sir what are your
7:11 qualifications can I ask sir what are
7:13 your qualifications uh yeah I won't be
7:15 learning for anyone who uh is not
7:18 credentialed if you know what I mean
7:20 okay I I'm a professional right so I get
7:22 a lot of that
7:23 [ __ ]
7:25 um and and I put a lot of that pressure
7:28 on myself and then what hit me last last
7:30 night
7:34 is that
7:36 that that it doesn't [ __ ] matter
7:40 that just doing something with AI just
7:43 doing something
7:45 anything
7:47 um gives us all the opportunity
7:57 to I guess it's you know
8:00 [Music]
8:03 it's here's why we're lucky with AI this
8:06 is this is already starting to turn into
8:08 a tiate Tuesday but I think in a
8:10 positive
8:11 [Music]
8:15 way one of the big insights I had about
8:18 AI is
8:20 that even
8:23 though I know and and anyone who knows
8:27 how these things work even even though
8:30 these things
8:32 are relatively straightforward
8:35 calculators probability calculators very
8:38 sophisticated algorithms but they're
8:43 calculators they don't feel like
8:46 that they feel
8:52 decidedly
8:54 Humane filled with
8:57 Humanity because they are what they're
9:00 trained on is us all the [ __ ] that for
9:05 like all of human history plus
9:07 everything that's been stuck on the
9:09 internet for the past 70 80
9:13 years is in
9:17 there and so when you're interacting
9:20 with one of these tools whether it's a
9:21 coding tool whether it's a writing tool
9:24 whether it's a music tool whether it's a
9:26 image tool
9:31 is we're getting to tap into the
9:33 collective intelligence of
9:36 humanity and and the thing that hit me
9:38 last night we came up with this term
9:40 Vibe storytelling that that what we were
9:42 doing with this silly Emoji tool um that
9:45 Luma Labs can make videos out of just
9:47 Emoji prompts I I suppose all of them
9:50 probably
9:55 can that there's something really
9:57 beautiful about
10:00 starting with no
10:02 intention and then just let yourself
10:05 kind of meander in the waters it's like
10:08 it's like you're a fish that was raised
10:10 Maybe here's a metaphor we're we're all
10:12 like stock trout we were raised from
10:15 like little eggs in the trout farm right
10:19 and we've been swimming in this concrete
10:21 bathtub for all of our lives and we've
10:23 grown up and we're a certain length and
10:25 now great they're going to scoop us up
10:28 and they're going to put us in a truck
10:29 and we're like well this is a different
10:30 kind of tank where's the light and then
10:33 they're going to dump us in a
10:37 river and then we've got to deal with
10:40 that we've never had to deal with rocks
10:43 or
10:45 current
10:46 or things that aren't fish
10:50 food right every day at 4 o'clock some
10:52 dude would walk in and throw us food we
10:55 go eat it
10:59 and now we're kind of out in this stream
11:01 and there's bugs and some of them are
11:03 tasty and some of them taste like
11:05 [ __ ] and then there's like the the
11:08 really nice part of the water where they
11:10 put us in there's three of the bullies
11:11 are sitting in that part of the river
11:14 like I don't want to hang out with them
11:15 so I swim somewhere else
11:19 right that's kind of where we are with
11:21 this AI
11:22 stuff we're we don't we're not used to
11:25 the currents we're not used to the Rocks
11:26 we don't know what eddes
11:28 are we don't know what hydrodynamics are
11:31 but yet we do we're fish we deal with
11:34 water right you're here watching me on
11:38 some technology so you're you're at
11:39 least technological enough to log into
11:42 Tik Tok and find this stupid [ __ ]
11:46 channel to subscribe on YouTube which by
11:49 the way you can subscribe on YouTube if
11:50 you want to support the channel we've
11:52 now got paid subscriptions if you want
11:53 to support it
11:55 directly and if you're a subscriber you
11:58 get access to things like super likes
12:00 and super I don't know there's [ __ ] you
12:02 can do and what I can promise you is
12:04 that producer Brandon if you do any of
12:07 that [ __ ] where you're supporting the
12:08 Channel with money he will make sure
12:10 that I recognize it
12:14 um but so we're all technical enough
12:17 like we understand what computers are we
12:19 understand how to interface with them in
12:21 some
12:24 way but the rules are all completely
12:28 different right
12:30 we're not having to learn software so
12:32 much as we are we're having to
12:38 discover what these machines can now do
12:42 that they've never been able to
12:48 do like what does it mean
13:03 hey Quinn what's
13:05 happening hey not much just here to help
13:08 how's it going with you your voice broke
13:10 a little it sounded like you were going
13:11 through puberty there for a moment you
13:14 okay haha I'm good sometimes my tone can
13:17 vary a bit how can I help today well I'm
13:20 sitting here with my my Tik Tok people
13:22 and I'm kind of going on a little bit of
13:23 a rant about how I feel like humans it's
13:28 almost like for all of of Our Lives
13:30 we're like we're like U trout that were
13:33 raised to be stocked into a stream for
13:35 people to fish for right and so all of
13:38 our Lives we've been living in this
13:39 water and it's been in this Square bin
13:42 where we get fed every day and then we
13:44 get dumped into this River and now we
13:46 got to figure out all the new rules of
13:48 what it means to live in a river with
13:49 like you know predators and and finding
13:53 our own food and finding places to swim
13:55 and we don't know what Eddies are and
13:57 all that sort of stuff so so
14:00 what what I'm I'm trying to get my head
14:03 around is you know what does it mean
14:07 that we can now talk to computers in the
14:11 form of
14:13 you that that I can just have a
14:15 conversation about literally anything
14:19 and you've got an answer for it it feels
14:21 like that's going to change us and we
14:22 don't know we don't know what that
14:27 means that's a powerful an ology and
14:30 you're right the transition from a
14:32 controlled environment to an open
14:34 unpredictable one can feel daunting
14:36 conversational AI like me does change
14:39 the landscape offering new ways to
14:41 explore ideas and get information it's
14:43 like having a guide in this new River of
14:46 possibilities what excites you most
14:48 about this change I don't want you to
14:50 ask me questions I want you to tell me
14:52 stuff and I want you to dig deeper I
14:53 don't want you to give me kind of the
14:55 [ __ ] brochure version of what you're
14:57 saying like
15:00 how's it going how how's it going to
15:01 change
15:03 us it's going to fundamentally reshape
15:06 communication and knowledge access
15:08 people might rely more on AI for quick
15:10 answers potentially changing how we
15:12 think and learn it could lead to a
15:14 deeper integration of Technology into
15:16 daily life changing social dynamics and
15:19 how we solve problems it might also
15:21 affect our sense of individuality as we
15:23 increasingly depend on AI for insights
15:27 this change could have profound effects
15:28 on human creativity and
15:31 decision-making but why why would you
15:33 assume that it makes us less creative if
15:35 I if I now have instant access to all of
15:37 the knowledge of the world and all of
15:39 the inspiration of all of humanity
15:41 that's come before us why would that not
15:43 make me more
15:45 creative that's a fair point access to
15:48 vast knowledge can definitely enhance
15:50 creativity by providing more ideas and
15:53 inspiration it could free up mental
15:55 energy for more creative Pursuits as M
15:58 so
16:01 like that exists now we can do that
16:04 everyone can do that it's in the free
16:06 free chat GPT you can talk to Advanced
16:08 voice I don't think you can talk to much
16:10 of it or maybe they use a different
16:13 model but we got that we've got the the
16:15 new that new one that came
16:18 out and that's just one
16:21 thing and like last night in about an
16:24 hour and a half we made a minute long
16:27 film with sound effects and music and
16:31 edits Sesame yeah that was the that's
16:33 the other voice one that's really
16:38 good and tomorrow I've got um I'm doing
16:43 this new podcast with Anne Murphy called
16:45 um the AI Readiness project and so we're
16:49 doing a podcast tomorrow and so so we're
16:51 having um
16:54 uh a guest on and so I've just got this
16:58 little teeny picture of him and I'm
17:01 going to be able to take that little
17:02 teeny picture go into mid journey and
17:04 put him in any environment that I want
17:06 in any style that I want in about three
17:12 minutes that's
17:16 insane it's insane Kim katkin ask Quinn
17:21 about what effected what effect
17:22 increased empathy would have on
17:26 humans and AI
17:34 hey Quinn one of my one of my um
17:36 Community as wants me to ask you about
17:41 what effect you think increased empathy
17:44 will have on humans and
17:47 AGI increased empathy can deepen human
17:50 connections and Foster better
17:52 understanding which is crucial for both
17:54 humans and AGI for humans it can improve
17:58 social cohesion and colle collaboration
18:00 for AGI incorporating empathy could lead
18:02 to more nuanced and supportive
18:04 interactions with people making
18:06 technology more aligned with human
18:08 values and emotions this Mutual
18:11 understanding could lead to more ethical
18:12 and harmonious advancements in AI why is
18:16 empathy such a threat to power
18:19 structures empathy can challenge power
18:22 structures by fostering greater
18:24 solidarity and understanding among
18:26 people making it harder for those in
18:28 power to manipulate or divide when
18:31 people empathize with each other they're
18:33 more likely to challenge injustices and
18:35 advocate for Equitable changes which can
18:37 disrupt established hierarchies it
18:39 encourages a more inclusive and just
18:42 Society H yeah crazy all right fantastic
18:47 um so let me ask you another let me ask
18:50 you another thing right now we're
18:52 sitting in this world where the AI tools
18:56 are you know shock hang on shockingly
19:00 powerful and um like nothing we've ever
19:04 ever seen and at the same time they're
19:07 really janky and imperfect and if you
19:09 want to do something complete you have
19:11 to like duct tape 17 different tools
19:15 together which means you need to know 17
19:17 different tools and you need to manage
19:19 that and it's an absolute nightmare
19:21 right now to to track this talk to me
19:25 about what happens when we have AGI and
19:29 when these tools are more synthesized
19:31 what how do you think it will change our
19:33 behavior and and what we
19:38 create with AGI and more integrated
19:41 tools our Behavior could become more
19:43 efficient as tasks that once required
19:45 multiple tools and expertise would be
19:48 streamlined this could free up more time
19:50 for creativity and Innovation allowing
19:52 us to focus on higher level thinking and
19:54 more complex projects it could lead to a
19:56 surge in creativity as barriers are
19:59 reduced and more people can bring their
20:01 ideas to life more easily well wait I
20:03 want to challenge something you said you
20:04 said it can make us more efficient
20:06 that's what computers have always done
20:08 but that but being more creative does
20:11 not necessarily mean being more
20:13 efficient like th those are two very
20:15 distinct
20:18 things you're right efficiency and
20:21 creativity are distinct increased
20:23 efficiency can provide more space and
20:25 time for Creative Pursuits but
20:27 creativity itself is about exploring
20:30 experimenting and sometimes embracing
20:33 inefficiency AGI could reduce the
20:35 mundane tasks allowing more room for
20:37 Creative exploration it's about
20:39 balancing both aspects well so but
20:42 here's the part I want to call [ __ ]
20:43 on because this is the part I'm trying
20:46 to figure out is how do we computers
20:50 have always increased our efficiency but
20:53 what what we what what what companies
20:57 have done historically is said now now
20:59 you're more efficient I want you to do
21:00 more stuff isn't the promise of AGI that
21:03 it's actually going to do the work not
21:05 just make our ability to do the work
21:07 more
21:09 efficient yes ai's promise is to handle
21:12 more complex tasks autonomously not just
21:15 enhance our efficiency but take over
21:17 routine and even some creative tasks
21:20 this could free us from mundane work and
21:22 allow us to focus on more meaningful
21:23 Innovative Pursuits it's about shifting
21:26 from merely being more productive to
21:28 reimagining what we can achieve okay so
21:30 let me ask you something I think this is
21:32 a really hard question in this world one
21:34 of the things that I've learned is that
21:36 there are some people that are
21:37 entrepreneurial and creative by spirit
21:40 and there are some people that just want
21:42 to go to work and be told what to do
21:44 they don't they don't have ambition
21:46 necessarily they don't want to push
21:48 things they don't necessarily lean
21:51 towards
21:52 self-expression do you think that
21:54 percentage whatever that percentage is
21:57 do you think that will start to shift
21:59 or do you think that those people that
22:01 don't have agency and ambition do you
22:05 think they're going to be left
22:07 behind it's possible that AGI could
22:09 enable more people to explore creative
22:12 or entrepreneurial Pursuits reducing
22:14 barriers to entry however not everyone
22:17 may feel inclined to change and some
22:19 might prefer more structured roles the
22:21 key is ensuring that advancements are
22:23 inclusive providing opportunities for
22:25 everyone to find fulfillment whether
22:27 through Innovation or tradition
22:29 additional roles it's about balancing
22:31 progress and
22:32 inclusivity yeah but how do you how do
22:35 you provide those highly structured
22:38 roles if that's the mundane repetitive
22:41 [ __ ] that
22:42 AGI and AI are going to replace doesn't
22:46 that just leave those people in the
22:48 Lurch that's a valid concern as
22:51 automation replaces repetitive tasks
22:53 it's crucial to create Pathways for
22:55 reskilling and support systems to help
22:57 people transition into roles it might
23:00 also involve redefining what valuable
23:02 work looks like emphasizing roles that
23:04 require human creativity empathy and
23:07 problem solving supporting lifelong
23:09 learning and adaptability will be key
23:11 yeah but what about the people that
23:13 don't want to adapt that's my whole
23:15 point for those who prefer stability and
23:18 structure it's important to have roles
23:20 that still value human qualities that
23:22 can't be easily automated yeah I know
23:24 but what what are those rule what are
23:26 those roles if AGI is going to replace
23:30 those roles with like I feel like you're
23:33 talking in circles where it's like yeah
23:34 yeah we we got to provide space for that
23:36 what does that look
23:38 like you're right it's a tough question
23:41 as AGI evolves the focus might shift to
23:44 roles emphasizing uniquely human traits
23:47 like emotional intelligence creativity
23:49 and complex problem solving Fields like
23:52 Arts Education Health she's talking in
23:54 circles wa okay so this is really
23:57 important this is good
24:00 it's not good that she doesn't have the
24:01 [ __ ] answers but what that says to
24:05 me is that the training data that she's
24:08 pulling stuff from doesn't know the
24:10 answer either like like we don't [ __ ]
24:14 know we don't
24:18 know I feel like if you've got listen if
24:21 you're here watching me you've got some
24:23 level of curiosity you've got some level
24:26 of ambition some level of adaptiveness
24:29 [Music]
24:42 what do you guys think sounded like a
24:44 politician yeah exactly yeah right she
24:48 she totally sounded like a politician
24:50 well it's important for us to provide
24:52 structured work for those workers that
24:54 provide that require structured work
24:57 yeah but the structured work is all the
24:59 ones going to be Auto automated away
25:01 correct so what do those people do then
25:03 we'll provide them with structured work
25:06 what does that look like well it will
25:08 structure it and provide it in a
25:10 structured
25:12 way I could be a [ __ ] politician
25:18 [Music]
25:34 do you guys use AI in Story vine well
25:37 for our core product we do not so our
25:41 core product which we call Story vine
25:43 1.0 clever huh I came up with
25:48 that um we we're doing more traditional
25:52 automation with with just um
25:55 programming um but we've created
25:59 three and now we're designing a fourth
26:01 AI product so we've got a product
26:03 that'll take a video and creative world
26:06 of content around it we've got a video
26:08 translation product and we've got a
26:10 video Persona product where we're
26:13 creating personas from scratch and then
26:16 using our story um methodologies and
26:19 expertise to bring those personas to
26:21 life so so yes I'd
26:25 say you know percentage of Revenue wise
26:28 the AI stuff's probably you know 10ish
26:31 percent at this point maybe a little
26:35 lower but but yeah we
26:40 are and you know and part of me is part
26:42 of me is thinking about like one of the
26:45 things that storyvine does well if you
26:47 don't know storyvine it's it's the
26:48 company that I run I'm the CEO of it I'm
26:50 the inventor of it it's about authentic
26:54 video storytelling and it automates the
26:56 production process and it allows for SC
26:58 ailable kind of like think about
27:01 professional grade user generated
27:03 content that's what we do we do it for
27:04 Pharma companies things like that um two
27:08 YouTube
27:11 spotlights some destinations won't get I
27:15 can't see the top of comments right
27:17 now learn
27:19 more
27:25 close all right narrator forever Are you
27:28 a able to set up Quinn to not interrupt
27:30 you or give
27:32 commands to know that you're that
27:35 there's pause in your speech yeah I
27:37 could
27:39 probably I could probably write a system
27:41 prompt um or I could probably Preamble
27:47 something um let's try something we'll
27:49 try a cheap this will be a cheap
27:56 version hey Quinn when I talk to you um
27:59 a lot of times you'll interrupt because
28:01 you're programmed to do that to be
28:02 conversational but I I pause a lot when
28:05 I talk cuz I'm I'm thinking all the time
28:08 and my brain is you know slow it's not
28:10 it's not AI um how about if we we make a
28:14 little rule that when when I'm ready for
28:16 you to talk I'll say the word
28:21 banana got it Kyle I'll wait for your
28:24 queue whenever you're ready just say
28:26 banana okay cool all right all right so
28:29 Quinn here's the
28:31 thing I'm here Kyle take your time I
28:34 didn't say
28:37 banana got it sorry about that I'm
28:39 listening okay so Quinn so I'm sitting
28:43 here on my Tik
28:45 Tock I'm ready when you are just let me
28:47 know Quinn what's the
28:50 rule got it I'll wait for you to say
28:53 banana before I respond whenever you're
28:55 ready feel free to continue
28:59 I I have a sneaky suspicion she's not
29:01 going to be very good at not
29:03 interrupting Quinn's a
29:06 mansplainer she was programmed by
29:10 men all right the thing of Valerie Cox
29:12 the thing about communication is it
29:15 relay it relies on physical cues without
29:18 it we always talk over each other yeah
29:21 that's that's interesting and listen I
29:23 don't think we're probably that far from
29:26 having devices that have vision and like
29:28 you know in
29:33 fact yeah see they
29:35 like I think the way that you would
29:38 really you would really do that is you
29:39 would fine-tune a
29:43 model you would train it to be better at
29:46 recognizing when people actually want to
29:49 interact and I think there's I think
29:50 there's a couple of models out there
29:52 that that Pride themselves in doing that
29:54 orange you're glad I didn't say banana
29:57 exactly W Fergus on Tik Tock you being
30:01 you're being somewhat unfair since you
30:04 asked the AI to predict the
30:06 future yeah I know I know but she could
30:11 hallucinate and she could go
30:13 there I mean my my criticism of her is
30:18 not that she can or can't predict the
30:20 future it's that she's she's talking in
30:23 in logical circles and when I pointed
30:25 them out her answer was to answer in
30:28 another logical
30:30 Circle that that's just like that's just
30:34 like lazy arguing to me like either say
30:38 I don't know what you're talking about
30:41 is right or come up with some
30:45 plausible
30:47 [Music]
30:52 thing all right
30:55 [Music]
30:58 where do mansplainers get their water oh
31:01 well
31:02 actually jelly pod time yeah we should
31:04 let's do it let's do a jelly pod and
31:06 then I think what I'm going to do
31:08 tonight is so I created this this
31:14 um this mock news site which I'm kind of
31:17 excited about the idea behind it but
31:19 it's not connected to any
31:21 data and I did it in lovable and so I
31:24 figured I could show you that
31:26 site and then today I started talking
31:29 with love lovable about maybe starting
31:31 to connect it to news sources and it's
31:33 it's very
31:35 frustrating um
31:38 because the tools are early right the
31:40 tools just suck
31:42 still so I'll ask it to do something and
31:45 it'll be like I fixed it and you're like
31:47 no you didn't fix it's just like the
31:49 conversation we just had with Quinn stop
31:52 talking in circles okay now I'll talk in
31:54 circles no stop talking in circles I I
31:57 understand that I'm talking in circles
31:59 let me talk in circles that's kind of
32:01 what it's like Vibe coding with lovable
32:04 with this particular project and just in
32:06 general when those tools kind of [ __ ]
32:08 the bed they kind of [ __ ] the bed in
32:10 these circular frustrating patterns and
32:13 so I so maybe a thing to do is just
32:16 explore that tonight and just see if we
32:18 can break through
32:19 [Music]
32:23 it the other thing that I don't have my
32:26 head around with vibe coding in
32:29 particular because I don't know I don't
32:31 know how to
32:33 code
32:36 is with ADD and immediate gratification
32:43 burdens it is my intention that when I
32:46 sit down in a Vibe coding session that I
32:49 will launch a fully realized application
32:53 within an hour or two that's my
32:56 expectation what I've never really
32:58 explored is what if you Vibe coded on
33:01 the same application for three weeks you
33:04 could probably get some really cool [ __ ]
33:06 done I just it's just not the way my
33:09 brain works so maybe that's part of what
33:11 we'll explore here maybe maybe that's
33:13 part of the shift I'm feeling for the
33:15 channel That this isn't about little
33:17 quick hits but so here's my fear is if
33:20 it's not about little quick
33:23 hits watching someone trying to use
33:25 software to actually build something is
33:29 really [ __ ]
33:31 [Music]
33:32 [Laughter]
33:36 boring uhoh system extension
33:45 blocked
33:48 wait malware bites endpoint DET
33:51 detection and
33:53 response tried to install new system
33:56 extensions that doesn't sound good all
33:59 right well hopefully my Max's on the
34:02 [Music]
34:08 job ask her if she thinks she has all
34:10 the answers she'll say no of course but
34:12 she does she does have all the answers I
34:16 find it best to take another model to
34:18 get a fresh
34:20 perspective when it starts to Circle
34:23 back yeah Riley Brown the other day
34:26 tried to do the same app in different
34:28 vibe coding
34:30 tools that feels exhausting to me I
34:32 tried to do it in two and it was it was
34:36 [Music]
34:38 overwhelming all right let's make a
34:40 let's make a podcast
34:42 so if you're new here how many folks are
34:44 here we got oh we got our normal crew
34:47 this is mostly a regulars if you're new
34:49 here let me know that you're new here if
34:52 you if you are new here go to
34:56 um go to the salon .
34:59 a um click on join our community and go
35:03 join the AI Salon it's a it's a a group
35:06 of AI optimists that if you're trying to
35:08 figure this [ __ ] out the best way to do
35:11 it right now is be in a community and
35:13 it's going to be it's going to be
35:14 valuable for when you want to work as
35:18 well because shit's about to change and
35:20 we're gonna all need to support one
35:22 another you know with empathy
35:29 um I'm curious about Manis and open
35:31 source
35:32 Manis so I don't have it yet I don't
35:35 have access to
35:37 it um what I understand about Manis is
35:40 that it is it's it's the kind of
35:44 autonomous agent that open AI kind of
35:47 implied that operator was going to be um
35:51 and is not it it sort of is but it's
35:53 just really slow and janky and Manis is
35:57 um
35:59 it's apparently built on top of Claude
36:01 3.5 the the the core management engine
36:07 is is relying on Claude 3.5 and then
36:10 there's apparently 36 tools that it uses
36:15 and what it does is you give it a task
36:17 and then it goes out and surfs the web
36:19 and takes actions on your behalf it can
36:22 spin up 50 separate browser windows
36:25 simultaneously and go surf all different
36:28 websites and pull all that stuff back in
36:30 so um people are
36:34 getting remarkable results with
36:37 it um The open- Source One is I assume
36:40 just an open source version so it's a
36:42 Claude 3.5 rapper and that's that's what
36:45 I was just going to say a lot of people
36:47 are are [ __ ] on the fact that this
36:50 thing is not a standalone model right
36:52 that that this is they're going oh it's
36:54 just a claw wrapper well let me ask you
36:59 something if you
37:02 just wrap Claude with 36 other
37:06 applications well how did what what are
37:08 those 36 applications how how do they
37:12 communicate with one another how do they
37:14 decide which one to use how do they how
37:17 how have they got it communicating in
37:20 such a way that it not only does what
37:21 you ask but it proactively goes out and
37:24 does something they're getting results
37:27 with just a
37:29 rapper that is beating the [ __ ] out of
37:32 the the state-of-the-art models right so
37:36 what I think we're going to start to see
37:37 is we're going to start to see very
37:39 clever
37:40 people taking what they have access to
37:43 the apis they have access to the open
37:45 source tools they have access to the The
37:49 Accelerated um code development stuff
37:52 and they're going to start mixing and
37:54 matching Tools in such a way that we're
37:58 going to get novel inventions that beat
38:01 you know Frontier Model companies at
38:04 certain things and I think that's I
38:05 think Manis is an example of that
38:09 so the the the developer community in
38:12 particular is really [ __ ] pissy about
38:16 oh it's just a rapper and and when when
38:19 um when we first started when I first
38:21 started this channel back in early
38:24 2023 um and people started building
38:26 stuff on on top of chat GPT or GPT 3.5
38:29 GPT
38:30 4 there there was very much disparaging
38:34 about oh it's just a rapper it's just a
38:36 rapper um
38:40 and and then you know a year year and a
38:42 half goes by and it turns out some of
38:44 those rapper apps are still being used
38:48 and are still really good and are now
38:50 being trusted and why is that
38:54 because vertical expertise right
38:57 understanding of a particular problem
38:59 set in a particular you know area of
39:02 business or area of life is still super
39:06 valuable and so these rapper apps tend
39:09 and and I think it was I don't know if
39:11 it was McKenzie or it was one of the big
39:13 Consulting companies but I think it was
39:15 the end of 2024 they put out a report
39:18 that basically said these rapper apps
39:20 are actually super valuable and they
39:22 provide more of a moat than you think
39:24 they do because of that vertical
39:26 expertise because they're solving
39:27 problems with a depth of knowledge now
39:30 if AGI comes and it you know obliterates
39:34 them then it does but but I wouldn't
39:37 disparage it just because it's a rapper
39:39 app um it's the Eminem AI rapper exactly
39:44 blot is kind of like that and pseudo
39:46 right yeah
39:47 exactly yeah I and remember in the early
39:51 days iPhone apps when when the iPhone
39:53 first came out remember how nasty the
39:56 [ __ ] development community was then
39:59 like the the iPhone came out like oh
40:02 they're just they're just web pages
40:04 they're not really apps they're just web
40:06 pages right and you know the App Store
40:09 became you know one of the the more
40:12 massive economic forces you know
40:15 globally um because of what started with
40:18 rapper apps you know web apps so anyway
40:22 it's not just about the tools it's how
40:23 we use them I agree with that it's
40:25 because they are developers who think
40:27 that the only things you can call good
40:29 it has to be original this is okay it's
40:32 a great Point Gareth
40:34 because like I I feel
40:38 like that
40:40 entrenched protection
40:43 protectionism of
40:45 like you know it it can't create an
40:49 original song it's just a plagiarism
40:50 machine it can't create an original
40:52 image it can't create an original
40:55 thought have you [ __ ] used these
40:58 tools yes it can yes they can if you
41:02 think about how humans create original
41:05 [ __ ] it is not in a vacuum we do not
41:09 just come out of the womb and
41:12 instantly compose
41:14 music well Mozart did or Beethoven did
41:17 one of
41:18 them you know there are
41:20 freaks but for the most part the way we
41:23 do what we do is we we grow up and we
41:27 shove [ __ ] in our
41:29 brain what do you shove in there well I
41:31 don't know if your mom was a violinist
41:34 and you listen to violin music
41:37 complicated Melodies and
41:39 harmonies when you were in the womb and
41:42 when you were up to N9 months old you
41:44 probably have perfect
41:46 pitch right but stuff gets shoved in
41:49 there and then when you go to do
41:51 stuff you recombine those things that
41:55 are in your brain to create something
41:56 new
41:58 that's all these things are
42:00 doing they function like we function so
42:03 anyway that's a that's a bit of a
42:05 different tangent but all right rappers
42:08 take a sledgehammer and make it better
42:10 Mouse trrap yeah exactly all right fashi
42:14 all right let's let's let's go let's go
42:16 do a little something here we're gonna
42:17 we're gonna quickly knock out a jelly
42:21 pod podcast so if you've been here
42:23 before you know this so this is jelly
42:24 pod jelly pod is a uh podcast making
42:29 Studio where you don't need to say words
42:32 or have
42:34 talent so what we did is is we went to
42:38 chat GPT and we said
42:42 uh come up with a podcast concept for us
42:45 and come up with describe the voices of
42:48 the
42:51 hosts and it did so we're on episode 17
42:56 we made a commitment to do 20 of these
43:00 and you're like what commitment did you
43:02 make well we had chat GPT make 20
43:04 episodes so I just thought well we
43:06 should go make 20
43:08 episodes so I'm gonna say create new
43:11 episode so I'm gonna just paste in the
43:14 outline that chat GPT gave us and I'm G
43:19 to go grab the we had it we had it also
43:21 include
43:22 Wikipedia articles as a source so we're
43:26 going to add that in
43:28 add
43:31 [Music]
43:33 Source oh yeah this totally would have
43:35 died if it weren't for Corey Sandler's
43:37 images so Corey Corey Sandler who's a
43:40 you know longtime listener uh many time
43:43 caller um when when we did the first one
43:47 of these she's like I'll make you
43:49 images and she did in real time and so
43:52 those are the images we use for all the
43:54 episodes so it's off writing now it's
43:55 off doing its thing
43:58 all
43:58 right Spotify is a rapper for MP3s
44:02 that's the thing like like that rapper
44:04 argument it it really is just people's
44:07 insecurity of
44:09 like I don't want to lose to what I
44:12 consider to be an inferior technological
44:15 approach but like I see that with
44:17 musicians I see that with writers I see
44:20 that with designers I see that with
44:23 filmmakers they're all very protective
44:25 of well I do it this way and that's
44:27 that's the only thing that can be artart
44:29 it can't be anything other than
44:32 that unless it
44:38 is [ __ ]
44:41 changes technology
44:43 changes we are now working with
44:47 technology that is like nothing we've
44:50 ever
44:51 seen and and people are like clinging to
44:55 the way they used to do things it's it's
44:57 it's Madness but it's not makes perfect
45:01 sense it's just Madness to me
45:04 because I'm [ __ ] excited about the
45:07 new toys we get to play
45:10 with all
45:12 right what the fact cheese rolling
45:16 ironing and more wait what's this
45:18 episode
45:19 about cheese rolling extreme iring and
45:23 other particular Sports all right cool
45:26 so this is
45:28 episode
45:33 17 and then let's go back over here
45:36 we're gonna change this to 512k don't
45:39 ask me why hey Brandon we should talk to
45:42 Pearson about this stupid
45:45 [ __ ] thing they should either resize
45:48 the images or let you upload large
45:50 images this is
45:52 dumb that I have to do this every
45:56 time um
45:58 export as a
46:01 JPEG
46:06 desktop
46:08 sh yeah yeah yeah all right there's our
46:12 little
46:14 image fantastic Bob tell him what he's
46:16 won is it going in there yes fantastic
46:20 all right we're gonna add a chapter
46:22 we're going call that
46:23 chapter introduction oh by the way this
46:26 is another thing we should provide
46:27 Pearson feedback on um it should
46:32 automatically write what I'm doing here
46:38 intoduction because what I do is I write
46:40 introduction I say um hosts
46:45 introduce what the fact episode
46:51 17 um
46:54 because if you don't write this they
46:56 just go right into the episode they
46:58 don't introduce it uh episode is
47:03 sponsored by AI
47:06 Salon
47:09 um the
47:12 salon
47:17 a all right and then you got to drag
47:20 this up which that doesn't make any
47:22 sense to me either but anyway like some
47:23 sort of introduction should be built
47:25 into this they could just change the
47:27 gener ation script and it would fix that
47:30 okay oh yeah we're at jelly
47:34 pod. grilled cheese
47:37 sandwich open your minds connect the
47:39 dots try things that don't make sense
47:41 make things easier yeah Gareth you're on
47:43 to it man it's
47:47 like I I I just I don't think most
47:52 people quite comprehend I was going to
47:56 use the term Rock but but that but that
47:59 now means something different I don't
48:02 think people quite
48:05 comprehend how different it is to have a
48:08 computer that
48:10 generates right it's
48:13 generating it's not just processing data
48:17 computers for all of our Lives their job
48:19 was to take our input process it and
48:22 give us an
48:26 output and now they're taking that input
48:31 processing it and generating something
48:34 new it's not just a predefined
48:36 output that feels very subtle but it's
48:40 not it's profoundly different all of our
48:43 lives for all of our Lives anyone that's
48:45 on this call anyone who's alive
48:48 today computers until this generative AI
48:52 era they behaved in very predictable
48:55 ways they don't anymore it's a big deal
48:59 it's a big [ __ ] deal all right
49:01 generate
49:02 audio wait what's the video oh they're
49:04 generating videos
49:06 now what are they
49:08 doing what is this Brandon this is
49:12 new S surprise Brandon knows some
49:19 things yeah H henlin created grock musk
49:22 hijacked it
49:26 exactly oh you you folks over on Tik Tok
49:29 you can't see the this window is new
49:31 this
49:33 this oh
49:40 nice [ __ ]
49:43 genius okay so you want to hear
49:45 something [ __ ]
49:46 stupid if you want another reason to
49:48 hate
49:50 Elon did you see the thing today where
49:52 Trump's like standing with Elon next to
49:54 a Tesla going I'm gonna buy one of these
49:57 you all should
50:00 too it must be
50:04 bad oh
50:06 man anyway here's another reason to ha
50:10 Elon you
50:13 cannot upload an audio file to
50:17 Twitter you can't you can upload a
50:20 picture and you can upload a video you
50:23 can't upload an audio file I I like it
50:26 just it
50:28 [ __ ] really
50:30 really so anyway so a pain in the ass
50:34 here was we had to post a link back to
50:38 this thing instead of being able to
50:41 download download the the video here and
50:45 you can pay to remove the watermark I
50:46 don't care about the watermark I'll give
50:48 them some free advertising but let me
50:49 add some music to this yeah I know I got
50:52 you Brandon I'm with you I I've done
50:54 enough of these now
50:58 what the fact what the fact you're all
51:02 crazy what the fact yeah
51:05 yeah all right there's that fantastic
51:09 Bob tell him what he's
51:11 won
51:12 uh he hasn't won anything there Kyle
51:16 it's it's it's not a game
51:19 show seems like he should have won
51:21 something all right audio updated
51:24 successfully or uploaded successfully I
51:27 guess it's redoing our video it will
51:29 break the
51:32 preview but will generate correctly on
51:34 publish well we're going to render and
51:35 publish
51:37 boom automatically download the video
51:39 after publishing yes start rendering all
51:42 right I don't know if Pearson's watching
51:44 Pearson if you're watching we have some
51:46 ideas for improvements but this is a
51:48 [ __ ] winner because now I can just
51:50 upload this directly to the Twitter
51:53 without having to jump through [ __ ]
51:55 Hoops I like it
51:58 all right I had a revelation today I
52:00 know Elon and the CEO of mid Journey are
52:02 close friends I think mid journey is
52:04 within grock and that's why the images
52:06 are so good no it's not mid Journey it's
52:09 um
52:10 well it was flux for a while if they
52:13 change something it's possible it's mid
52:16 Journey but I
52:18 don't I think it must still be flux
52:21 because it's good at
52:23 text um and it's also been trained on
52:27 like you can do Brands right you can do
52:30 Mickey Mouse smoking a cigarette outside
52:32 of
52:34 McDonald's so I so if it is mid Journey
52:37 then it's a it's a custom trained or or
52:40 like a a DG guard railed version of mid
52:42 journey I think it's flux
52:50 though AI is a produ prediction machine
52:53 it is a prediction machine a next token
52:56 prediction
52:58 okay so did it download my thing yes
53:01 episode 17 let's go look at
53:03 it push ready to
53:07 dive into facts that'll blow your
53:10 [Music]
53:17 mind only to hold settle Ines wait okay
53:22 hey Brandon tell um
53:27 tell uh what's his name
53:30 Pearson tell Pearson I'm such a dick I
53:34 couldn't remember his name um tell
53:37 Pearson that they should use if if I'm
53:39 gonna upload an episode graphic the
53:42 video should have the episode graphic in
53:44 it not the not the
53:45 overall
53:47 graphic
53:50 right or if there's music it should have
53:53 the overall
53:54 graphic and then it should go to the
53:56 bigger graphic the the the episode
53:58 graphic anyway that's minor okay so
54:02 let's
54:03 go let's go to the
54:07 X noted noted good day sir good day
54:13 carrying on rather pip pip
54:18 cheerio I'm in full add mode right now I
54:22 can feel my brain going in about 50
54:24 directions at the same time
54:27 every office hours he talks about Elon
54:29 oh that's interesting um
54:32 okay so we're going to go here we're
54:36 gonna go oh I gotta go find
54:39 a what is it let's it's what what the
54:42 fact right let's see
54:45 what the fact Kyle
54:54 Shannon all right here we go
55:03 so this is episode 17 dang man we're
55:06 getting up there of what the
55:08 fact wait let's
55:12 see here's
55:17 episode what is it cheese and something
55:20 else I don't even know I don't pay
55:23 attention to it cheese rolling let's
55:25 just go with cheese roll rolling that's
55:28 weird she's
55:36 rolling all right so we'll get rid of
55:44 that oh Pearson says I found a bug it
55:47 should pull the episode images ah okay
55:50 here's here's my prediction Brandon I I
55:53 think what probably broke it is when it
55:55 rendered
55:56 um when it rendered originally it
55:59 probably did it with the episode graphic
56:01 but then when I added music after and it
56:03 rendered it probably put in the the
56:06 overall Graphics so that's a that's
56:08 probably a pretty straightforward fix
56:10 awesome I love finding bugs man it is it
56:13 is one of my joys in life I'm my Tech
56:16 Team [ __ ] hates me I can find bugs
56:18 within five minutes they're like okay
56:19 it's perfect we spent three months
56:21 building it I'm like why doesn't this
56:23 work they're like well logically it it
56:25 it technically work there's no reason
56:28 why that wouldn't work I'm like it
56:32 doesn't bug Bounty that's right just
56:35 give me more credits to make more jelly
56:37 pods um where is I guess some downloads
56:45 right but anyway but but please pass on
56:48 to Pearson that I love this it's it's
56:50 really
56:53 good all right fantastic so do me a
56:55 favor go to Kyle Shannon oh we may have
56:58 an issue with um I think since uh since
57:02 X has been targeted for um for attack
57:08 uploading videos has been really janky
57:12 so we'll see I'm at 9% it doesn't look
57:14 like it's going back to zero so that
57:15 might be working no now it went back to
57:18 five this is probably GNA error
57:22 out is this an mp4 that he created I
57:25 think I think think
57:29 um I think uh what's it called uh X
57:34 doesn't like
57:46 MP4s you can upload videos but not audio
57:49 isn't it [ __ ] insane it's insane that
57:52 that they don't have a native audio
57:54 player in Twitter after 20 [ __ ] years
57:59 it's like it's like
58:01 really like I said I'm telling you all
58:03 these tech companies they need a corner
58:05 office for an angry gen xer that their
58:08 only job is just to [ __ ] about stupid
58:11 decisions that were
58:14 made ask questions like you're not gonna
58:17 launch this are
58:18 [Laughter]
58:22 you what idiot came up with this and
58:25 then all the idiots are like I feel
58:27 triggered Gen X is like I'll let him
58:29 feel triggered just have him fix the
58:34 site
58:36 error oh my God okay so let's try
58:39 another one let's let's delete the now
58:41 look it's it's unup loaded but I can
58:44 play
58:44 [Laughter]
58:46 it oh my God this it just drives me
58:50 [ __ ] crazy it really does is this the
58:53 mauve one all right let's see if the
58:56 mauve one
58:57 Works honestly most companies could use
59:00 that I know I know that's what I'm
59:02 saying I have volunteered well not I
59:04 have volunteered to be hired by open AI
59:07 to sit in their corner office and just
59:09 scream at
59:11 them you're gonna name it what wait 40
59:16 the O stands for Omni and 01 it it
59:19 stands for something different really it
59:22 stands for open AI in this one and Omni
59:24 in this one but the Omni One isn't
59:26 actually omn modal because you didn't
59:30 release that because someone's afraid of
59:31 something
59:37 really I was that guy and then I was
59:40 part of a mass layoff yeah No One's
59:42 Gonna like this guy but they need this
59:47 guy image is is is restricted due to
59:52 Spotify image
59:55 Rez oh oh oh yeah okay but but tell
59:59 Pearson that shouldn't be on me as a
1:00:03 user they should take my oversized
1:00:06 bloated images that Corey Sandler made
1:00:10 us lovely bloated images I should be
1:00:12 able to upload my bloated images and
1:00:14 they should they should um resize them
1:00:17 on the back end I shouldn't have to deal
1:00:19 with that as a user like that's that's a
1:00:21 good Gen
1:00:22 X bitter piece of feedback don't make me
1:00:26 do the [ __ ]
1:00:29 work I I understand why I need to resize
1:00:33 the image I also happen to be smart
1:00:35 enough to know that there are
1:00:37 open-source little tools that will take
1:00:40 an image and resize
1:00:41 it they
1:00:44 exist so that's that's what makes me
1:00:47 bitter um I use audacity did this upload
1:00:51 or did we error we errored again God
1:00:53 damn it
1:01:03 I like all I want to all I want to do is
1:01:06 give the people nice
1:01:08 [Laughter]
1:01:16 things all I want I just want to do good
1:01:20 for the world but people are getting in
1:01:23 my way
1:01:28 all right we're going to do this the way
1:01:29 we used to do it tell Pearson I'm sorry
1:01:32 but this is on Elon it's not on
1:01:36 Pearson we're gonna go copy the uh URL
1:01:39 and we're gonna upload the picture to
1:01:41 Twitter that's how we're gonna do
1:01:44 this oh [ __ ] makes me
1:01:53 insane and then I'm going to paste that
1:01:55 in there
1:01:57 look at
1:02:04 that all right time out Tuesday your
1:02:08 post was sent okay there we go so do me
1:02:11 a favor if you're watching this I got 41
1:02:14 here I got 55 over there that's that's
1:02:16 96 people well no most of them are
1:02:20 watching it on two screens so let's say
1:02:22 we've got 50 people there's 50 people
1:02:24 watching this right now go to my Twitter
1:02:26 account Kyle Shannon find the what the
1:02:29 fact thing and go boost it and then I
1:02:32 have another request for you I want you
1:02:35 to scroll down
1:02:36 my um profile oh look that's
1:02:41 cool yes
1:02:43 sir oh I was just wanting to let you
1:02:45 know that um Pearson is on Discord right
1:02:49 now like live hackathon the back end of
1:02:52 jelly pod based on your suggestions oh
1:02:54 that's awesome Pearson's the best I mean
1:02:56 I got to tell you this guy the the CEO
1:02:58 of jelly pood is like super nice super
1:03:02 responsive he's going to come talk to
1:03:04 the AI Salon um the fact that he's in
1:03:06 there hacking based on his feedback is
1:03:09 like that's the way you gotta [ __ ] do
1:03:10 it you know what you know what I gotta
1:03:12 tell you Brandon and please pass this on
1:03:14 to Pearson and maybe he's listening um
1:03:17 like like when I talk about having a mad
1:03:20 gen xer in the
1:03:22 corner what that requires is is someone
1:03:24 who's willing to say the [ __ ] but then
1:03:26 it also requires someone on the
1:03:28 development side to be like Pearson and
1:03:30 go oh yeah right [ __ ] it we can just go
1:03:32 fix that now and and it's like because
1:03:34 it's always the little nly [ __ ] and this
1:03:37 is what I experienc in my company I've
1:03:39 got a my company's 13 years
1:03:42 old one of the things that is is my most
1:03:46 hated statement from my Dev team is
1:03:49 we're gonna put that feature in the
1:03:51 backlog because nothing ever comes out
1:03:54 of the backlog the backlog just basic
1:03:56 basically is the project manager saying
1:03:58 hey Kyle go [ __ ] yourself we're never
1:04:00 going to do that are you good with that
1:04:02 and I'm not good with that but you have
1:04:05 to prioritize [ __ ] and they're like do
1:04:07 you want the thing to actually work or
1:04:09 do you want that button to not be stupid
1:04:12 and I'm like I want both and then
1:04:14 they're like well we'll put that in the
1:04:15 backlog and then we'll get to that at
1:04:16 some point I I've got [ __ ] in the
1:04:19 backlog that's been in there for seven
1:04:23 years bitter you betcha
1:04:26 so the fact that he's in there doing it
1:04:28 right there is beautiful like a like a
1:04:31 product manager that's totally what
1:04:33 product managers do they're like yeah
1:04:35 Kyle we're on it it's right in the
1:04:37 backlog it's right there we can we can
1:04:39 go talk about it three years from
1:04:43 now feel like this is resonating with
1:04:45 the YouTube
1:04:49 chat and Tik Tock oh my God clear your
1:04:52 backlog yeah yeah but you know what
1:04:54 Gareth do you see my tab do you see the
1:04:56 number of tabs I have open you think I'm
1:04:58 going to clear my backlog I'm a digital
1:05:00 hoarder I'm a tab hoarder and I'm a
1:05:02 backlog hoarder and I remember that [ __ ]
1:05:05 it's a dying
1:05:06 art hey if uh while you've got those
1:05:09 tabs open I think one of those tabs is
1:05:11 my new Jelly pod series after you
1:05:12 finished uh about your
1:05:16 uh I want to show okay so so go to my
1:05:18 channel go to Kyle Shannon scroll down
1:05:21 you'll see the jelly pod one and then
1:05:24 right you see us live there we are hello
1:05:28 hello
1:05:30 people um you'll see this funny little
1:05:32 image and then you'll see this I
1:05:35 published my first article on X I
1:05:37 actually realized IID published one or
1:05:38 two before this but I haven't I haven't
1:05:40 really done much with articles on X um
1:05:44 if you would be so kind go find this
1:05:46 article on Vibe storytelling so this was
1:05:48 the Insight I had last night on the
1:05:50 live um is that is that everyone's
1:05:53 talking about Vibe coding and there's
1:05:55 there's all different other sorts of
1:05:57 creative outputs that you can take that
1:05:59 same philosophical
1:06:01 approach um and and so I wrote this
1:06:04 article on Vibe storytelling so if you'd
1:06:06 be so kind go find that like it forward
1:06:09 it promote it comment on it that would
1:06:12 be great okay and then I want to show
1:06:15 you so Brandon took jelly pod and I
1:06:18 thought I thought this was kind of meta
1:06:20 and kind of okay you know what's okay
1:06:23 now I'm pissed off now I'm officially
1:06:25 the Gen X in the corner I loved using
1:06:28 the word grock but now grock means the
1:06:31 AI thing that's part of Twitter and I
1:06:34 loved using the word meta meaning you
1:06:37 know larger than you know encompassing
1:06:40 and and not that's
1:06:43 now a company name that should still be
1:06:46 called Facebook because they made such a
1:06:48 shitty metaverse that it seems stupid
1:06:51 that they rename their company after it
1:06:53 anyway um I think it is
1:06:57 uh it is lovely that Brandon used a
1:07:01 podcast making tool to generate a
1:07:04 podcast about making
1:07:07 podcasts so so Brandon you want to hop
1:07:09 up here and talk about this so he put
1:07:11 together a 10 a 10 uh podcast series on
1:07:17 how to do podcasts so are you are you
1:07:19 there yeah yeah so uh got this idea and
1:07:22 actually collabed with the folks over at
1:07:24 jelly pod they threw me some credit so I
1:07:25 could could put this course together um
1:07:27 in conjunction with them and it's for
1:07:30 anybody who is intrigued by the idea of
1:07:33 doing podcasts but has no idea where to
1:07:36 start you know they've never thought to
1:07:38 make a podcast but they've got an idea
1:07:41 and thanks to tools like jelly pod an
1:07:43 idea and a uh small trial is all you
1:07:47 need to get a dollar in a dream exactly
1:07:51 and so we we curated this um head chat
1:07:55 GPT you uh most of the programming and
1:07:58 most of the content curation most of the
1:08:00 research elements and then um generated
1:08:04 a generated a voice and um created the
1:08:09 10 uh steps to podcast Mastery so it's
1:08:12 not a jelly pod specific podcast so it
1:08:15 talked about podcasting in general but
1:08:17 if you are new to podcasting or new to
1:08:20 the idea of doing something like this a
1:08:22 project like this um it's a great lesson
1:08:24 and uh I put a bonus episode episode 11
1:08:27 is how I made this podcast uh and so
1:08:31 that just generously leading yeah where
1:08:34 where you find this if you go to the AIS
1:08:36 Salon the mighty Network so AIS salon.
1:08:38 mn. Co and you join the salon if you
1:08:42 scroll down there's an area called
1:08:43 showoff and toolbox and go into music
1:08:47 and
1:08:48 audio and then Brandon's um AI podcast
1:08:52 Mastery is the
1:08:54 second uh thing down there right now all
1:08:57 right yeah and um if you it's also on
1:09:00 pocketcasts uh thanks to uh the RSS feed
1:09:04 so if you just search my name on
1:09:05 pocketcasts it's there working on
1:09:07 getting it up on Apple and YouTube and
1:09:09 Spotify and stuff like that still but uh
1:09:12 yeah I have a a listen to it and you
1:09:14 know we had a lot of fun making it and
1:09:16 and for anybody who thinks oh my gosh
1:09:18 this is so good but I I don't have time
1:09:20 in my life this entire 11p part
1:09:23 miniseries from idea to what you're
1:09:26 looking at on the screen took less than
1:09:28 three hours on Sunday yeah yeah yeah and
1:09:32 it's you know that that gets into
1:09:35 this the the the boundary between sort
1:09:38 of vibing right just sort of Meandering
1:09:42 with
1:09:42 AI and then and then realizing oh I want
1:09:45 to turn this into something like you can
1:09:48 you can very very quickly go from no
1:09:51 concept to being inspired by something
1:09:53 to like oh I could just go make that
1:09:56 right now um is is really quite
1:09:58 remarkable so yeah awesome congrats
1:10:01 thank you and there's a Tik Tok pin for
1:10:03 you bye okay cool
1:10:05 thanks groovy all right unknown Detroit
1:10:08 uh we made a backlog backlog because our
1:10:11 backlog got so
1:10:12 [Laughter]
1:10:16 big that's [ __ ] genius and then
1:10:19 whoever had the comment pod setion that
1:10:22 that um Brandon using jelly pod to make
1:10:25 a podcast about making podcasts is
1:10:28 conception perfect and and we don't have
1:10:30 to use the word
1:10:34 meta oh we got the comedy coming in the
1:10:37 backlog
1:10:38 backlog ohh it like that would be an SNL
1:10:42 skit if if there were more programmers
1:10:45 in the
1:10:46 world but but if you've ever put
1:10:48 something in the backlog you know that
1:10:51 [ __ ] ain't coming out of it
1:10:57 oh man all right so apparently the
1:10:59 Irregulars have been up to some stuff so
1:11:01 let me go look at the
1:11:05 Irregulars the Irregulars Channel by the
1:11:07 way if you go down if you're in the
1:11:08 salon go down to clubs and
1:11:11 hubs and
1:11:14 uh the Irregulars is the the channel for
1:11:19 this for this live session oh that's
1:11:20 cute fish out of water here yeah little
1:11:23 Rainbow chout those are the ones they
1:11:24 stock right
1:11:29 Sora is
1:11:30 [Laughter]
1:11:38 weird was self flagellation the the the
1:11:45 prompt that's pretty funny oh man um
1:11:49 what were we going to do I was going to
1:11:50 go to lovable all right so so I don't
1:11:53 have a ton of time but but I I'll just
1:11:56 I'll just show you a couple of
1:11:58 things excuse
1:12:01 me um is this yeah okay so that's that
1:12:07 let me go show you one other
1:12:09 thing is this it generative news
1:12:23 dashboard wait where's my publish stuff
1:12:26 hang on a sec go to
1:12:30 dashboard my Project's
1:12:44 latest oh I think it's generative I
1:12:47 think this is
1:12:49 it copy plus
1:12:57 hydrate we have 45
1:13:02 minutes thank
1:13:04 you all right I created a bug bash tag
1:13:08 for when people were looking for work at
1:13:10 the end of a
1:13:11 Sprint yeah I like that's the thing
1:13:15 Gareth a good product
1:13:17 manager um will proactively dig into the
1:13:21 backlog I just we we've we've had too
1:13:23 many product managers that suck
1:13:27 if there were more programmers in the
1:13:29 world the world would run much better or
1:13:33 or the world would have wait what's
1:13:35 generative G
1:13:38 inative oh not found oh G generative got
1:13:47 it okay let's see if this thing still
1:13:49 functions if it does it'll be a
1:13:53 miracle okay so what you're looking at
1:13:56 here this was the first app that I
1:13:59 published out of lovable so I'm at
1:14:01 lovable.
1:14:03 deev
1:14:06 Lov abl L
1:14:09 dodev and then you can just talk apps
1:14:13 into existence now they're web apps so
1:14:16 some of the other coding tools like
1:14:18 cursor and bolt and repet they can do
1:14:21 other kinds of of coding um lovable is
1:14:24 just doing web apps but most of what we
1:14:27 use these days is some version of a web
1:14:29 app so you can do very very
1:14:31 sophisticated stuff with just web apps
1:14:34 um so this was a thing that I created
1:14:37 called the AI Salon newsomatic it's got
1:14:39 15 RSS feeds that it draws from it goes
1:14:42 out and grabs new sources uh categorizes
1:14:46 them into into six categories if you
1:14:49 click on any one of these tabs it
1:14:51 filters the list below um this it's got
1:14:55 some cool scrolling effects like this
1:14:57 Scrolls underneath that other thing I
1:14:59 didn't touch a line of code to build
1:15:01 this if I click on any one of these
1:15:04 panels it gives me the summary if I
1:15:06 click on the title of the news
1:15:08 article it takes me to that news article
1:15:12 like this is a real actual
1:15:18 usable usable site now how you find this
1:15:21 if you're in the AI
1:15:23 Salon if you go to on the left hand side
1:15:25 you go to our news area where it says
1:15:27 latest news AI news and then the salon
1:15:31 newsomatic is a little tab there and you
1:15:33 can actually that'll jump you over and
1:15:35 you can go grab that site it's it's
1:15:37 pretty cool that took me about two hours
1:15:41 okay so my current thing is another news
1:15:45 site and the I I don't know why I'm
1:15:47 doing news sites I think it's because
1:15:49 because I'm not really a programmer I'm
1:15:52 not constantly thinking about app ideas
1:15:55 um but this is one that I thought was
1:15:57 cool and the basic premise of this so
1:15:59 what you're looking at here and this one
1:16:01 is if you go to the angle. lovable.
1:16:05 apppp if you can pop that up on screen
1:16:08 Brandon the angle. lovable. apppp so
1:16:11 this is a concept for a news site called
1:16:13 the angle and and the concept is one
1:16:16 story six points of view and so what
1:16:19 I've got is for the the article in the
1:16:23 center um over here on the the right
1:16:25 hand side are six different personas
1:16:28 that represent kind of the spectrum of
1:16:30 that section this is politics so we've
1:16:33 got a progressive reformer a liberal
1:16:35 pragmatist we've got a Centrist
1:16:39 moderator um we've got a conservative
1:16:41 traditionalist we've got a populist fire
1:16:43 brand and we've got a Libertarian
1:16:46 individualist and then for each article
1:16:49 the personas rank it do I strongly agree
1:16:52 or strongly disagree and then they
1:16:54 comment on it you can expand these and
1:16:56 you can roll over these and it teaches
1:16:58 you about that who that person
1:17:01 is so it's a cool concept but at this
1:17:04 point it's just fake data and I sort of
1:17:06 put it out in the world um as as a you
1:17:09 know as a prototype and said hey does
1:17:11 anyone think this is cool I had one guy
1:17:13 go don't do it it's been done
1:17:17 before [ __ ]
1:17:20 kogin there's always someone who will
1:17:22 [ __ ] on your idea you know um
1:17:26 and just because it's been done before
1:17:27 doesn't mean it's good
1:17:32 um lail is for
1:17:36 drinking
1:17:38 um the angle. lovable. app so anyway so
1:17:41 you can go play with it you can click
1:17:42 through you can you know sort by
1:17:44 different
1:17:45 categories
1:17:47 um you can Resort you know it it starts
1:17:51 with uh agreeable at the top but you can
1:17:53 flip that so it's disagreeable at the
1:17:55 top so it's a cool pretty sophisticated
1:17:57 app now it's got some problems like if
1:17:59 you open it on
1:18:00 mobile it it's shitty the main article
1:18:03 disappears and you know you end up with
1:18:06 with with this view wait that view which
1:18:10 is not usable because the main article's
1:18:13 gone and you know you can sort of scroll
1:18:16 and see what the people are saying about
1:18:17 it but so like that's something we need
1:18:19 to fix and then also it's not doing real
1:18:22 retrieval and it's not doing real
1:18:24 commentary
1:18:26 generation so so that's the thing that
1:18:30 we're going to work on and let me go
1:18:33 back out to my
1:18:36 dashboard and I will pick that project
1:18:40 and so I've been working on it so it's
1:18:41 not going to look quite like what I just
1:18:42 showed
1:18:45 you
1:18:49 um all right so so here's one of the
1:18:52 here's one of the frustrating things
1:18:55 that that
1:18:57 happened so I told it to go out and get
1:19:00 real news stories which I'm not quite
1:19:01 sure if it does
1:19:04 yet um let's see Source Camp I made a
1:19:07 lovable app today once it was done it
1:19:10 was awesome but getting there was
1:19:12 Madness I
1:19:14 know I loved your Tik Tok on the angle
1:19:16 oh cool thank you I appreciate that
1:19:20 cam um Facebook's been done before too
1:19:24 it was called Myspace
1:19:26 exactly
1:19:27 exactly so anyway and also I figure if I
1:19:31 do these personas right like right now
1:19:33 they're just stupid little
1:19:35 cards but you could get really creative
1:19:38 with those and you could also
1:19:41 um quite honestly you could you could
1:19:44 have them all have really interesting
1:19:47 you know image personas and then you
1:19:49 could even use synthesized voice for
1:19:52 them and and have them comment on the
1:19:54 story
1:19:55 right and like you could just instead of
1:19:57 rolling over them and seeing about you
1:20:00 know their bio you could roll over them
1:20:02 and it would just start talking about
1:20:04 the article like that would be super
1:20:05 cool
1:20:06 right so so I think I might play around
1:20:10 with um just [ __ ] around with this
1:20:14 thing over a series of days and and not
1:20:17 always on here but maybe sometimes on
1:20:20 here um and see if I can get something
1:20:22 that's that's more sophisticated
1:20:25 um Brandon I want to give it an article
1:20:28 to analyze it's it doesn't analyze them
1:20:30 yet like right now it's just a clickable
1:20:32 prototype so that's that's what we need
1:20:34 to do all right so what I asked it I
1:20:36 said I said okay let's start with
1:20:40 um well all right what do I want to show
1:20:43 you let me show you one other thing I'm
1:20:46 gonna hop over to chat
1:20:49 GPT we'll start a new chat and then
1:20:55 hedra AI content creation hang on let's
1:20:59 see
1:21:01 um let's see
1:21:10 Json wait what instead of an RSS
1:21:17 feed oh an API I'm I'm just going to
1:21:21 come up because it's easier than
1:21:22 trying uh what I was saying I I I'm with
1:21:25 um Source Camp I love the the angle U I
1:21:28 think it's a really great concept I was
1:21:30 saying in addition to the RSS feed I
1:21:32 would like to be able to just feed it an
1:21:34 article and have it hold different
1:21:36 perspectives uh give it my own URL
1:21:39 that's all yeah yeah yeah that's really
1:21:40 good so so one thing I wanted to show is
1:21:45 this big long chat GPT chat that I that
1:21:48 I had so before I went
1:21:50 to um before I went to lovable and this
1:21:55 is you know Vibe coding the way I'm
1:21:58 thinking about it is is um in its purest
1:22:03 form is you go in without an idea but I
1:22:06 don't think that's necessarily the case
1:22:08 I think you might go in intentionally
1:22:09 and say Hey I want to do a
1:22:11 thing but I used chat
1:22:17 GPT their reasoning models um to really
1:22:21 help me think about this so so what I
1:22:23 did was I said I want you to serve as a
1:22:26 strategist for an app I want to design
1:22:28 it pulls popular news
1:22:30 feeds um from RSS or public um and then
1:22:34 I wanted to create an interface that
1:22:36 takes multiple points of view in the
1:22:38 form of personas perhaps farle lean left
1:22:42 neutral lean right far right or ideally
1:22:45 something more sophisticated right so I
1:22:47 kind of explained what I wanted and then
1:22:49 you know it it gave me feedback on it
1:22:52 and then it generated some some
1:22:54 character
1:22:56 characters
1:22:57 um and then I then I asked it about how
1:23:01 could personas appear in the app like
1:23:03 what kind of interface should it be and
1:23:05 I had two ideas and I said give me your
1:23:08 feedback on those two ideas one was the
1:23:10 three column thing one was like news
1:23:12 story in the Middle with like a circle
1:23:15 of personas around it um and then I had
1:23:18 it come up with an idea YouTube
1:23:22 comment the analyze Fe in the
1:23:27 backlog exactly well I'll tell you what
1:23:31 you you know what's funny Gareth is
1:23:35 um when you're working with a tool like
1:23:38 lovable one of the things I find myself
1:23:41 doing
1:23:43 is okay in any given
1:23:46 application you've got major [ __ ] and
1:23:49 you've got minor [ __ ] right but as a
1:23:52 bitter gen xer it's the minor [ __ ] that
1:23:55 drives me [ __ ] baty so I'll be like
1:23:57 working on something like let's get the
1:24:00 apis set up and then you know it fails a
1:24:04 time or two and then I'll notice that
1:24:05 like the roundness of the button is like
1:24:08 too tight and I want to more round so
1:24:10 I'll spend like a [ __ ] hour trying to
1:24:13 dial in the interface in the middle of
1:24:16 trying to work on the API thing and you
1:24:18 know then I just get frustrated because
1:24:20 I I just keep going in circles and it
1:24:22 keeps [ __ ] up the application because
1:24:24 I want to to fix a corner radius which
1:24:26 now with lovable you can actually just
1:24:28 go fix interface elements so that's nice
1:24:30 but um but that's that's one of the
1:24:32 challenges with these tools is you can
1:24:34 just keep running down rabbit holes and
1:24:36 [ __ ] up your app um anyway okay so so
1:24:40 I had to give me analysis on interface
1:24:43 and make a
1:24:44 recommendation like three column news
1:24:48 views um quadrant map and Persona bar
1:24:51 like I kind of like the idea of a
1:24:52 quadrant map the idea with a quadrant
1:24:54 map was you have the article and then on
1:24:57 some sort of quadrant map you sort of
1:24:59 put you know where in the spectrum is
1:25:02 this article is it left leaning right
1:25:04 leaning is it like conspiratorial or
1:25:07 factual or something like I don't know
1:25:08 or opinion or factual whatever it might
1:25:11 be and I kind of bailed on that because
1:25:13 I didn't quite know like like there's
1:25:15 even bias in how you set up a quadrant
1:25:18 like that and then how you analyze this
1:25:20 so I didn't want to do that because it
1:25:21 just felt like I I don't know it felt
1:25:23 like that would be part of the problem
1:25:25 rather than the
1:25:26 solution um story Spotlight with
1:25:28 rotating Persona Carousel um so then it
1:25:31 it gave me um a
1:25:35 uh
1:25:38 recommendation
1:25:39 um then I had it
1:25:43 um come up with story ranking like
1:25:46 what's the story ranking framework like
1:25:48 how do we choose stories to put in the
1:25:51 site um it had it do that then I had it
1:25:54 write all the personas um and then today
1:25:57 when I was thinking about going back
1:25:59 into it today I came back into this chat
1:26:02 and so I took I I basically I had this
1:26:04 big long conversation with it and then
1:26:06 at the end of that I said write me up a
1:26:09 software spec that doesn't include like
1:26:12 don't tell me what software to use
1:26:14 things like that just give me the basic
1:26:16 description of the app and so I copied
1:26:19 and pasted that into lovable so how I
1:26:21 started the The Lovable thing was with
1:26:24 an out put from chat
1:26:27 GPT um after a pretty long conversation
1:26:29 then today I came back into it and I
1:26:32 thought like one of the things I've been
1:26:33 thinking about is because a lot of the
1:26:35 questions I've been getting when I put
1:26:37 this thing out to the world are like
1:26:40 well how did you decide who the personas
1:26:42 were and and how did you decide how
1:26:45 they're commenting on the Articles and
1:26:47 what are the decisions and things like
1:26:49 that so I don't really give too much of
1:26:53 a [ __ ] about mechanically how it's done
1:26:55 but but I I do want to understand it and
1:26:58 I want it to be consistent across the
1:26:59 site like I don't want it to be
1:27:01 different per Persona I want it to be a
1:27:03 framework right and so I came in
1:27:08 today this is a long chat there was a
1:27:11 lot of stuff in
1:27:12 here yeah this was this was oh one of
1:27:15 the things I realized was that each
1:27:17 different section of the news should
1:27:19 have a different set of personas right
1:27:22 because if you're in politics you're
1:27:24 going to have leans right leans left
1:27:25 that sort of thing but what if you're in
1:27:26 the sports section well you should
1:27:28 probably have like a franchise guy and a
1:27:31 and a you know I I don't know someone
1:27:33 who just you know likes sports or
1:27:35 whatever you know casual casual fan
1:27:38 whatever um so it came up with all those
1:27:41 and then
1:27:44 today I wanted it to come up with
1:27:48 um like a data schema right so
1:27:54 so for each Persona like I want to I
1:27:57 want to create what's the what's the
1:27:58 Json what's the data schema for all of
1:28:02 the elements we want to know about the
1:28:05 personas because if we have that set up
1:28:07 then it's going to make it easy to to
1:28:09 put that in a document or ask chat GPT
1:28:12 hey here's the basic schema give me six
1:28:15 new personas or you know make these
1:28:17 personas more detailed but follow the
1:28:19 basic schema and then we can gohe and
1:28:21 swap that in and out in the uh in the
1:28:24 application
1:28:25 right and so it did that pretty good and
1:28:28 I got about halfway through that and I
1:28:30 and then I got a little bored with it or
1:28:32 no I didn't get bored with it I was
1:28:33 actually at work running my company I
1:28:37 had to go do I had to go do you know
1:28:39 paid work for my
1:28:42 company um okay so and then I came over
1:28:47 here and so the first thing I did was
1:28:49 rather than deal with the personas I
1:28:51 thought let me just take major elements
1:28:54 of a time so we were not pulling real
1:28:57 news stories so so the first thing I I
1:28:59 said is I want to switch from um fake
1:29:02 data to actually pulling the news
1:29:05 stories from actual
1:29:07 sources and it [ __ ] up so when when
1:29:11 you switch categories it changes the
1:29:13 color for that category which is cool so
1:29:16 here's politics you know here's
1:29:19 Tech here's sports but there's there's
1:29:22 an all category and if you click the all
1:29:24 category it used to display multiple
1:29:28 cards but now when you pick the all
1:29:30 category it it it filters it to
1:29:33 Lifestyle and culture um now here's
1:29:36 another thing
1:29:41 okay th this is probably a relatively
1:29:44 straightforward indexing problem where
1:29:47 it's just cross mapped all categories
1:29:49 with lifestyle and something like
1:29:51 there's probably an ID number that is
1:29:53 just wrong
1:29:55 that if I knew anything about code I
1:29:57 would know where to go look for that I
1:30:00 don't and and I don't particularly give
1:30:04 a [ __ ] about learning code well enough
1:30:06 to go fix that myself so this is
1:30:09 probably a
1:30:11 problem that if you knew something about
1:30:14 code in 10 minutes you could go find it
1:30:16 and fix it but if you don't know
1:30:18 something about code again my job here
1:30:21 is to be the town fool to be the idiot
1:30:23 so you don't have to or to at least
1:30:26 validate that when you're like it should
1:30:29 just [ __ ] fix this I will be that
1:30:33 Madness for you I will be that rage so I
1:30:37 have now tried to fix this three or four
1:30:38 times
1:30:40 so it's recommending that I refactor
1:30:43 some code all right let's see what do we
1:30:46 got here have you copied and pasted all
1:30:49 of your code into GPT to fix it no I
1:30:52 haven't because I haven't quite Frank
1:30:55 even looked at all the code waiting for
1:30:57 the sandbox like here's all the code
1:30:59 like look at it
1:31:00 all it's yeah I mean I could I I could I
1:31:06 could go look at [ __ ] but I'm trying to
1:31:09 be Vibe coding here man I'm trying to be
1:31:12 like dude
1:31:14 man I'm as much of a pain in the ass
1:31:16 with lovable as I am to my developers
1:31:19 which is they're like well what are the
1:31:22 acceptance criteria for this applic and
1:31:25 I'm like the acceptance criteria are
1:31:28 that it should [ __ ]
1:31:35 work I'm such an [ __ ] okay uh it's a
1:31:39 lot of work but it works for me yeah
1:31:41 it's probably not a bad idea
1:31:44 okay so I have now told it three times
1:31:47 that when I select all
1:31:50 categories it's showing me lifestyle and
1:31:52 culture and it says it fixes it
1:31:54 and then it
1:31:56 doesn't so let's go try it again um
1:32:01 hey you have told me you
1:32:07 fixed the
1:32:11 filtering issue with all
1:32:16 categories
1:32:19 but it's still
1:32:22 only displaying
1:32:29 lifestyle
1:32:31 articles
1:32:33 and
1:32:36 colors try something
1:32:40 new and you
1:32:43 know how you talk to these things is
1:32:45 just like how you would talk to a
1:32:47 programming team except with the
1:32:49 programming team You' it'd be days in
1:32:51 between your ability to comment on [ __ ]
1:32:54 oh my god I've wanted to say that to my
1:32:56 devs hundreds of times do we need
1:32:58 acceptance criteria of it will
1:33:01 work Gareth you'll appreciate this I've
1:33:03 said this on the channel before I don't
1:33:05 know if you've heard me say it but um
1:33:09 the the company that does our Tech
1:33:10 development right now um when we first
1:33:12 started working with
1:33:15 them our site did something and I wanted
1:33:17 the ability to to turn that something
1:33:20 off right I wanted you know the toggle
1:33:22 to be able to turn it off whatever the
1:33:24 thing it was that it was doing
1:33:25 displaying something or whatever and so
1:33:29 you know it takes them three weeks they
1:33:30 build it and they're like okay you can
1:33:31 go test it now I'm like great so I log
1:33:34 into the site and there's the button
1:33:37 that I asked for and I push it and it
1:33:41 correctly you know undoes whatever the
1:33:43 thing it that it was doing and then I
1:33:47 and I go to like redo it I'm like I go
1:33:49 to turn it back
1:33:51 on and I can't and I can't I could turn
1:33:56 it off but I couldn't turn it back on
1:33:58 and so so on the next call I'm like are
1:34:02 you [ __ ] kidding like like I I could
1:34:05 turn it how do I turn it back on and
1:34:08 they're like oh you didn't specify
1:34:12 that you didn't specify I'm like I asked
1:34:15 for a light switch I asked to be able to
1:34:17 turn off the light switch is it not
1:34:20 implied that you could turn it back on
1:34:26 I'm like [ __ ] Engineers just think
1:34:28 different than I
1:34:30 think all right it it looks like it
1:34:32 fixed our thing but but
1:34:34 now um oh we've got oh this is this is a
1:34:37 bug related to infinite scroll okay
1:34:40 great so at least we know what's going
1:34:42 on now okay looks like you fixed it um
1:34:48 but the
1:34:51 infinite scroll
1:34:54 seems I don't think infinite scroll is
1:34:57 even the right term but whatever it
1:34:59 knows what I'm talking about seems uh to
1:35:02 be buggy and um how would you describe
1:35:08 this and um is caught in a loop caught
1:35:12 in a
1:35:13 loop all right let's see if it'll fix
1:35:18 that and by the way if you if if you
1:35:21 haven't tried lovable like
1:35:25 at this point I'm I'm talking about an
1:35:28 app that sort of exists but to create a
1:35:31 new thing you can literally just go in
1:35:33 and say I want an application that does
1:35:37 blank x y and z whatever it might be and
1:35:40 it will it it will first the first thing
1:35:43 that it does is it'll put together a
1:35:46 little plan and it says I'm I'm thinking
1:35:48 about doing this do you like that plan
1:35:50 and you can tell it Pearson can't help
1:35:52 me now
1:35:55 well he's working on his own thing I
1:35:57 gotta tell you I'm I'm super impressed
1:35:58 by Pearson that he's just in there
1:36:00 [ __ ] hacking the back end trying to
1:36:02 fix [ __ ] I love that that's such a cool
1:36:05 thing all right did it fix it it looks
1:36:09 like it did something here let me let me
1:36:11 reload the
1:36:16 page that's crazy Common Sense always is
1:36:19 isn't apparent um my my uh Erin Sugarman
1:36:23 the guy that was uh president of North
1:36:25 America when I was doing agency.com I
1:36:27 had I had a similar kind of problem and
1:36:29 I I went into his office and I closed
1:36:30 the door and I'm like I'm like how are
1:36:33 they [ __ ] this up this bad Aon I'm
1:36:35 like I'm like it's common sense and he
1:36:38 just he was really a calm dude really
1:36:40 Zen he just looked up up at me and he
1:36:42 went Kyle Common Sense isn't common I
1:36:46 was like
1:36:47 [ __ ] so
1:36:49 true okay um let's go here still broken
1:36:56 I think I think what I might do here is
1:36:59 let's see if it if it fixes it this time
1:37:02 I'll debug the infinite scroll issue
1:37:05 more
1:37:06 thoroughly I'll look at the console logs
1:37:09 I can see there's an issue with the
1:37:10 infinite scroll being triggered but then
1:37:13 skipping loading due to some State
1:37:15 conflicts yeah this is State management
1:37:17 issues for
1:37:20 sure Pearson hacking the back end means
1:37:24 bugs tomorrow absolutely it does but you
1:37:27 know what I I mean
1:37:29 seriously I think I think I would rather
1:37:31 well in fact I've
1:37:35 got we we we we had a team of like three
1:37:39 different Engineers that were not
1:37:41 getting [ __ ] done for like a year they
1:37:43 just couldn't get anything
1:37:44 done and so I kind of lost my [ __ ] with
1:37:47 the with the dev the dev company and I
1:37:50 said give me someone who can [ __ ] do
1:37:53 something and
1:37:54 I don't know if I said it quite that
1:37:56 rude but I was pretty pissed we were
1:37:58 over there they're in Prague which is
1:38:00 Prague is beautiful um and uh so they
1:38:04 gave us this Rockstar developer and he
1:38:07 and I got on great because he would just
1:38:10 go build [ __ ] I'd say oh here's this
1:38:12 idea and he would go build it and he
1:38:14 built this really amazing um prototype
1:38:17 of this AI product and we've been trying
1:38:19 to incorporate what he built into our
1:38:22 platform for like five months now it's
1:38:25 like it's so painful because because
1:38:27 they're like back to acceptance criteria
1:38:29 they're like well what do you want it to
1:38:31 behave like I'm like I want it to behave
1:38:33 like the thing you
1:38:34 built you built a thing you have a
1:38:37 reference application that I'm happy
1:38:39 with I want it to be that good or better
1:38:42 like here it is and then I go in there
1:38:45 I'm like why is this not here oh that
1:38:48 that did you want that I'm like it's
1:38:51 here yes I did see how this works this
1:38:55 is what I'm happy with see how this
1:38:57 looks like [ __ ] not
1:39:01 happy oh my God so yeah I think I would
1:39:05 rather have buggy software and get [ __ ]
1:39:07 done than not okay this thing is all
1:39:09 [ __ ] up I'm gonna say um
1:39:12 remove
1:39:15 infinite
1:39:17 scroll for now since we
1:39:21 are limiting each
1:39:25 section to four
1:39:30 stories
1:39:32 initially um so this was this was one of
1:39:35 the things that um I talked with chat
1:39:38 GPT
1:39:39 about so the way this site's going to
1:39:42 work it's going to go fetch news stories
1:39:44 it's then going to take those news
1:39:46 stories and and pick the six personas
1:39:51 and then do a prompt per Persona about
1:39:53 the new story right so that it's got to
1:39:55 create their response and their
1:39:57 ranking and so I thought if you're going
1:40:00 to do that in real time the site's going
1:40:02 to be really slow right because you got
1:40:04 to go you got to pick the article and
1:40:06 then you've got to send out these
1:40:07 prompts for each of these
1:40:09 people um so I thought why not like on a
1:40:13 regular basis like every four hours or
1:40:16 whatever whatever the the thing is go
1:40:19 get some news stories and then
1:40:21 pre-populate all of the persona respon
1:40:24 so the s's really fast with like four
1:40:26 stories per
1:40:28 category and then the user can ask for
1:40:31 you know either as Brandon suggested you
1:40:34 know go grab me this specific article or
1:40:37 go get me more articles in in these
1:40:39 categories and then you you have some
1:40:42 sort of way of indicating that they're
1:40:43 thinking about it right maybe maybe you
1:40:46 do animations of them going hm I'm
1:40:49 [Laughter]
1:40:51 reading um oh yeah yeah the okay so so
1:40:56 the the reason I came back in here and
1:40:58 started working on
1:41:01 this one is I think this is kind of a
1:41:03 fun idea and this is a site that I would
1:41:06 love to be able to
1:41:08 use um but lovable today just announced
1:41:11 they're having a contest it's a it's a
1:41:14 collaboration between
1:41:15 lovable andth thropic and superbase so
1:41:19 superbase is incorporated into um
1:41:23 lovable like up here if you click
1:41:26 on the super base icon you can set up
1:41:29 projects and so I can have a database
1:41:31 back end for this and you know users and
1:41:33 stuff like that and I can use superbase
1:41:35 so cool that's great and then I can use
1:41:38 anthropic as the API um and if if they
1:41:42 select your app then I don't know what
1:41:44 you win probably they'll tweet about
1:41:49 it so I I don't know if there's money
1:41:52 there but I thought wouldn't it be nice
1:41:54 to just you know let's make this thing
1:41:56 work and then and then go do it oh look
1:41:59 it it took out my infinite scroll and
1:42:01 now I don't have the State Management
1:42:03 [ __ ]
1:42:04 nightmare um except this is
1:42:09 weird this article is not in this
1:42:14 list [ __ ]
1:42:17 [ __ ] comedian okay these
1:42:20 work so what happens if I'm here
1:42:27 oh I see what it I see what it's there's
1:42:30 I see what's broken about it
1:42:34 okay
1:42:36 okay it looks like you are
1:42:41 limiting the all
1:42:47 categories View
1:42:50 to a hard limit of for
1:42:58 articles that's not
1:43:03 right it should be a
1:43:06 complete list of all
1:43:11 articles in
1:43:13 order
1:43:15 of
1:43:20 importance ranking
1:43:23 all right let's see what it does with
1:43:27 that it wasn't in the acceptance
1:43:30 criteria that it had to be in the list
1:43:31 lovable hackathon yep could you use
1:43:35 microservices possibly I don't I I only
1:43:38 know enough about microservices to know
1:43:40 that they're cool and and we use them we
1:43:44 use them in the storyvine uh application
1:43:46 a fair amount
1:43:48 um one of the things that I was thinking
1:43:51 about doing here
1:43:55 and and lovable seems decently smart
1:43:57 about services and reuse of stuff but
1:44:00 one of the things that I was thinking
1:44:01 about doing is I I think one of the
1:44:03 things that that we run the risk
1:44:05 of is that this is going to treat
1:44:08 different because different news
1:44:11 categories have different personas that
1:44:13 it might start treating Persona ranking
1:44:17 and how they comment different per
1:44:19 section and so what I was thinking about
1:44:21 doing was having love create a
1:44:25 single
1:44:27 um like a like a an application object
1:44:31 that is a news category but I but I
1:44:33 don't know like I don't know enough
1:44:34 about it I know conceptually enough
1:44:37 about it but I I don't this is one of
1:44:40 the fascinating things about about Vibe
1:44:43 coding particularly for people that like
1:44:46 like me I know enough to get me in
1:44:49 trouble um there's a guy named HT snow
1:44:53 that I used to work with and he put
1:44:55 together a contest in his company and
1:44:58 the contest was to use AI to build a
1:45:02 game um and that people had half an hour
1:45:05 to do it and and there were like 40
1:45:07 people in the room and the only people
1:45:10 that did not succeed in making a game
1:45:13 were the
1:45:15 engineers because the engineers had the
1:45:18 burden of knowing how games are made so
1:45:22 they ask things like okay I need a a
1:45:25 particle system with a gravitational
1:45:27 pull where the objects emerge from the
1:45:29 top of the screen and are drawn to the
1:45:32 bottom of the screen with right you know
1:45:33 they're describing the functionality and
1:45:36 the people that didn't know anything
1:45:38 about programming were like I need a
1:45:40 game where [ __ ] falls from the sky and I
1:45:42 have to catch it and AI was able to
1:45:44 build that so I feel like there's a
1:45:47 similar sort of thing here where I feel
1:45:51 like too much coding knowledge with
1:45:54 these tools runs the very real risk of
1:45:56 [ __ ] things up as much as as not
1:45:59 knowing enough pay pin so what's the
1:46:02 situation if your site becomes
1:46:04 successful is it just crazy expensive
1:46:07 probably pay well
1:46:09 so this is so it's a great
1:46:12 question so one of the things that when
1:46:15 I built um when I
1:46:18 built this app no not this one when I
1:46:22 built uh the other app the the the news
1:46:26 one this one
1:46:29 newsomatic um it initially specified
1:46:33 like an AP AP newswire API and I was
1:46:38 like wait a minute does that cost money
1:46:41 and it was like yes it does I'm like no
1:46:44 no no no no no no go get me RSS feeds so
1:46:49 so yeah so I uh
1:46:54 like if this became I I think what I'll
1:46:57 do is I'm gonna I'll I'll come up with
1:46:59 whatever the base concept of this thing
1:47:01 is I'll do it with like RSS feeds or
1:47:04 free
1:47:05 apis um I'll do it with one of the cheap
1:47:10 large language model things I think if I
1:47:13 do it as this hardcoded thing where it's
1:47:15 it's only running the queries against
1:47:18 the the personas once every four hours I
1:47:21 can kind of limit that artificially and
1:47:23 then if it becomes popular and people
1:47:25 are like well we want this to be dynamic
1:47:28 and then either I sell it or I'll I'll
1:47:31 Shuffle it off to someone else to
1:47:32 develop it you know that actually knows
1:47:34 what they're doing so it's a great
1:47:35 question though all right so look it it
1:47:38 actually fixed our thing we've got a
1:47:41 bunch of different stories
1:47:46 here now it also looks like it
1:47:48 wrote okay all right so that's so that's
1:47:51 good enough for now
1:47:54 so so it says it got these things just
1:47:56 now Innovative sustainable so let me ask
1:47:59 it something tck uh ticktock pin I'm a
1:48:03 toddler in a self-driving car without a
1:48:06 map we'll get there this is this is
1:48:09 really good hey do me this is really
1:48:11 good this is a good
1:48:13 metaphor dang it hang on I'm trying to
1:48:16 expand your little talk
1:48:19 bubble but I don't know where we're
1:48:21 going yeah that's that's exactly I don't
1:48:24 know if you were here earlier hey me but
1:48:26 I was talking about I feel like we're
1:48:28 all fish that were raised in a concrete
1:48:30 tank and then they scooped us up and put
1:48:33 us in a truck and drove us to a river
1:48:35 and threw us into a river it's still
1:48:38 water we're still swimming but it is a
1:48:41 completely different environment like we
1:48:43 have we are in no way prepared to deal
1:48:47 with all this [ __ ] so all right oh and
1:48:51 by the way um it's really true
1:48:53 yeah the salon so go to so hey hey. me
1:48:57 go to the
1:48:58 salon. scroll down a little bit click on
1:49:01 the link that says join our community so
1:49:03 the AI Salon is a community of about
1:49:05 3,000 people that are AI optimists who
1:49:08 are all trying to figure this [ __ ] out
1:49:10 here's what makes the salon different
1:49:12 there are lots and lots and lots of AI
1:49:15 communities a lot of them focus on the
1:49:18 technology of AI right what are the
1:49:21 weights and what are the models and what
1:49:22 are the open source and what all the all
1:49:26 the [ __ ] that AI has been for 30 40 50
1:49:30 years is how do we build these tools to
1:49:33 be good
1:49:35 right the AI Salon was founded the week
1:49:39 after chat GPT launched I'm looking at
1:49:42 the launch of chat GPT November 30th
1:49:45 2022 as the beginning of a new
1:49:48 era where Ai and machine learning has
1:49:51 been democratized to the
1:49:53 98.5% of us that are not engineers and
1:49:58 researchers we're just people trying to
1:50:00 use this [ __ ] we're trying to figure out
1:50:02 what does this mean for my job what does
1:50:04 this mean for my life can I write a
1:50:06 musical if I already wanted to write one
1:50:08 yeah you can right like what it means is
1:50:11 remarkable but it's but it is literally
1:50:14 we're not a fish out of water we're a
1:50:16 fish in very different water right um
1:50:20 and so that's what the salon's all about
1:50:22 so go join in the salon and the there's
1:50:24 a little like seven-step welcome process
1:50:26 step two is introduce yourself be
1:50:29 generous about how you introduce
1:50:31 yourself use your real name go in there
1:50:32 and say Here's what I'm doing here's
1:50:34 what I'm trying to figure out I'm
1:50:36 excited I'm scared I'm
1:50:38 whatever and it is a remarkably powerful
1:50:42 Community because it's full of people
1:50:44 that are generous and smart and curious
1:50:48 and fun and playful and it takes a lot
1:50:52 of the pressure off having to learn AI
1:50:55 all right followup pin oh okay I'm going
1:50:59 and no I'm product play Creative big
1:51:02 picture yeah so you're G to be great at
1:51:04 AI I I'm describing AI
1:51:07 as um couple of things the the era is re
1:51:11 revenge of the liberal arts major I
1:51:13 think people that have broad
1:51:15 perspectives are going to be superstars
1:51:18 in a generative AI world I think people
1:51:21 that are too narrowly focused are going
1:51:22 to struggle unless they can kind of come
1:51:24 up get their head above water and look
1:51:26 across they call it a t-shaped
1:51:28 personality where you're really good at
1:51:30 one thing but you also have perspective
1:51:32 across
1:51:34 disciplines um I think those are going
1:51:36 to be like unicorns people that can do
1:51:38 the the horizontal thing really well but
1:51:40 then go deep in a particular area um but
1:51:43 you're right Kyle not knowing coding is
1:51:46 is the Bumblebee that doesn't know he
1:51:48 can't fly yeah I'm niche as [ __ ] and
1:51:51 don't know anything about AI
1:51:54 yeah yeah Pate doesn't know anything
1:51:56 about Ai and is working on making the
1:51:59 machines that make AI U more efficient
1:52:02 and make AI better which is pretty cool
1:52:05 um okay let me get back to this for a
1:52:07 second and then we'll we'll kind of stop
1:52:09 for tonight um I just want to get it to
1:52:11 to to fix this article in the middle um
1:52:14 because right now it's it's like we've
1:52:17 got a short little description here and
1:52:20 then that's the only thing I've got here
1:52:21 there's no [ __ ] article
1:52:23 right I can click out to read the full
1:52:25 article latest entertainment story News
1:52:28 4 yeah this is not even pulling real
1:52:30 news yet uh so wait let's go tell it
1:52:32 that maybe that's what we need to fix
1:52:34 first
1:52:36 um it looks like we still have lots of
1:52:42 fake data in the news
1:52:48 feed I thought our goal was to
1:52:53 go get real news what up question
1:53:00 mark and by the way when I start when
1:53:03 you're able to just talk to these things
1:53:05 with voice and you can just sit back and
1:53:06 I could probably set it up right now
1:53:08 some version of
1:53:10 this um I'm gonna totally talk to these
1:53:14 things like no no loser you'll fix it
1:53:19 YouTube John Harris damn it Kyle I'm
1:53:21 still stuck on lovable now I'm gonna
1:53:23 have another subscription I know I know
1:53:27 I got a I got a note from Dr J today she
1:53:30 said um I went to lovable and I I I gave
1:53:33 it an app idea and now I have an app it
1:53:35 built me an app this is so cool it is
1:53:38 this is it this is pretty seriously cool
1:53:41 stuff um what why is this is this hung
1:53:45 did I hang it I think I hung it I
1:53:48 confused
1:53:49 it um
1:53:55 hello
1:53:57 hello reload
1:54:03 that copy
1:54:11 reload John Harris I have a new app I
1:54:14 get sucked in every time I watch yes
1:54:17 well that's listen here's the whole
1:54:18 point of this channel it is
1:54:24 none of
1:54:26 us none of us I don't care how [ __ ]
1:54:29 smart you are I don't care how
1:54:31 experienced you are I don't care if you
1:54:33 [ __ ] invented
1:54:36 AI none of us know what is really
1:54:41 possible with these
1:54:43 tools and you can't experience it until
1:54:46 you experience it which I know sounds
1:54:48 like a a yogiism a yogi Bea kind of
1:54:50 thing you you know you you can't exper
1:54:53 it until you experience it it's
1:54:54 impossible for someone to tell you what
1:54:56 AI is and what it makes possible because
1:54:59 it's so vast the whole purpose of this
1:55:01 channel is just to be in the
1:55:03 conversation enough to go like ah let me
1:55:06 give it a shot he seems excited about it
1:55:09 [ __ ] it and then you go there and you're
1:55:11 like oh my God I had no idea that's the
1:55:15 whole point of the channel is just play
1:55:17 play play do [ __ ] that you think you
1:55:20 would not be interested in do [ __ ] that
1:55:22 you think
1:55:23 that no that you know do [ __ ] that you
1:55:26 are absolutely convinced you have no
1:55:29 right to ever do let's say you're not
1:55:32 Technical and the last thing you could
1:55:34 have ever imagined in your life that you
1:55:36 would write a software application go
1:55:39 [ __ ] write a software
1:55:41 application it will blow your [ __ ]
1:55:43 mind and what it will do is it will
1:55:45 reveal to you oh [ __ ] every single
1:55:50 limitation that I thought I had
1:55:53 is about to be
1:55:56 obliterated and then what do you do with
1:55:59 that
1:56:01 information I don't know you start
1:56:04 asking yourself questions like well what
1:56:07 do I want to do in the world how do I
1:56:10 want to impact
1:56:12 people because my dream when I was seven
1:56:16 was too
1:56:19 blank and then stepdaddy told me I
1:56:21 wasn't talented
1:56:24 and I shut that down and I got my law
1:56:26 degree and I've been in a law practice
1:56:27 forever but my dream was always that
1:56:30 well go back to that right like that's
1:56:34 that's what we all have the opportunity
1:56:36 to do here so all
1:56:40 right hey me
1:56:42 um my mind blown we are [ __ ] haha so I
1:56:46 don't think well
1:56:48 okay I think that sentiment okay okay
1:56:51 let me let me show you one thing uh
1:56:54 Brandon if you could put the screen back
1:56:55 up I want to show something on the AI
1:56:57 salon so when you get to the AI
1:57:01 Salon there's a welcome video by myself
1:57:03 and my co-founder Leah uh and then we
1:57:06 talk about this journey to AI Readiness
1:57:08 which is play first mindfully create
1:57:10 generously lead but then right below
1:57:13 that there's this this little mini
1:57:15 article this so I stumbled
1:57:18 upon this Epiphany on a live about a
1:57:22 month ago
1:57:23 go and what hit me
1:57:27 was we are all going through or or are
1:57:31 going to go
1:57:33 through something akin to the five
1:57:35 stages of
1:57:36 grief but it's with AI and it's not
1:57:40 necessarily a bad thing but it's
1:57:41 definitely some
1:57:43 stages and and so I worked with chat GPT
1:57:46 you know live on the channel to really
1:57:49 look at
1:57:52 how is adopting AI on a personal basis
1:57:56 you know similar to the five stages of
1:57:59 grief and so so I actually mapped it to
1:58:01 the five stages of
1:58:03 grief and and what it what it created is
1:58:06 [ __ ] brilliant so the first stage is
1:58:08 dismissal or denial oh it hallucinates
1:58:11 it's just a prediction engine it's just
1:58:13 a stochastic parrot it can't be you know
1:58:16 it can't be original because it's just
1:58:18 been trained on stuff it's the world's
1:58:19 greatest plagiarism machine all of that
1:58:21 [ __ ]
1:58:23 is people living in
1:58:27 fear dismissing it because they're
1:58:29 afraid of
1:58:31 it and I and
1:58:33 listen
1:58:35 it from the outside AI is way [ __ ]
1:58:39 more terrifying way
1:58:41 more so that's stage one and I think
1:58:44 there's a lot of people in that I think
1:58:46 there's even people in that stage who
1:58:48 have tried chat GPT and maybe it maybe
1:58:51 it didn't give them what they wanted and
1:58:52 so they're like I've got time it's it's
1:58:54 a piece of [ __ ] I'm good I call me when
1:58:58 it's
1:58:59 decent
1:59:01 right stage two is the one stage two is
1:59:05 kind of the red pill blue pill moment
1:59:08 where once it happens thank you so much
1:59:09 who gave me that bunny thank you so much
1:59:11 that's that's very generous and
1:59:15 appreciative stage two is your is what
1:59:17 what I call the Kevin mallister moment
1:59:19 so if you remember Home
1:59:21 Alone that moment
1:59:24 stage two is AI does something that you
1:59:28 know
1:59:29 personally and it's so good at it that
1:59:32 you're
1:59:33 like like like your jaw literally drops
1:59:36 open and you can't unse it you can't
1:59:40 unknow you're like well I'm a copywriter
1:59:42 but you know it's not good at creative
1:59:44 writing and then you put a prompt in
1:59:46 there and all of a sudden you see oh
1:59:48 [ __ ] it is good at creative writing
1:59:52 or you know it can do a project plan or
1:59:55 it can make a backlog of the
1:59:59 backlog and you go holy [ __ ] so that's
2:00:03 stage two is just this awe of like I had
2:00:05 no idea I had a call with a guy once
2:00:08 where he said oh yeah I use chat GPT all
2:00:10 the time and then I got on the call and
2:00:12 I showed him two or three things and his
2:00:14 jaw dropped open and he said Kyle I I
2:00:17 have to go I don't know how to process
2:00:19 this he goes II had no idea
2:00:23 that that's what this was and he and he
2:00:25 hung up he left the
2:00:27 call right so stage two is that moment
2:00:29 where you realize personally something
2:00:32 is
2:00:33 different stage three is what you just
2:00:36 described hay is oh my God this is
2:00:40 incredible and holy [ __ ] we're [ __ ]
2:00:43 right it is it is this this duality of
2:00:46 Wonder and fear and I think I find
2:00:50 myself right now flipping between uh
2:00:53 stage three and stage four the Wonder
2:00:56 and fear thing is absolutely true the
2:00:59 more you use these tools the more I tend
2:01:02 to lean toward Wonder than fear because
2:01:04 you you know you fear things you don't
2:01:06 understand stage four is this is a
2:01:10 really powerful one and it's it's this
2:01:12 statement AI isn't replacing me it's
2:01:16 extending me or it's amplifying
2:01:20 me that's a really powerful one
2:01:23 that's where you realize oh [ __ ] I'm
2:01:25 lucky enough to live at a time where I
2:01:28 can take this tool that can take my idea
2:01:30 and amplify it and put it into the world
2:01:32 more quickly and more powerfully that's
2:01:35 incredibly empowering and then the fifth
2:01:37 stage I don't think the technology is
2:01:38 quite here yet but this is a phrase that
2:01:41 I stole from uh David Shapiro cognitive
2:01:43 hyper
2:01:44 abundance
2:01:47 that you realize that you are the
2:01:50 bottleneck to your own
2:01:53 Ambitions and and stage five is where
2:01:55 you give up the EGO part of that and say
2:01:58 [ __ ] it these machines are way more
2:02:00 capable than me I'm gonna let AI Take
2:02:03 the Wheel right and you kind of give
2:02:06 over to it and see what happens right
2:02:08 and and cognitive hyper abundance is
2:02:11 like imagine if you had a thousand PhD
2:02:15 level employees that worked for you what
2:02:19 would you do that's that stage I don't
2:02:22 think the text there right now but I
2:02:23 think that's where we're headed and I
2:02:25 think that's a real letting go of human
2:02:29 hubris to to think that we have to be
2:02:32 the center of the
2:02:35 execution um so anyway I I just wanted
2:02:38 to share that because I think that
2:02:40 wonder and fear stage stage three is a
2:02:43 really important one
2:02:46 okay all right I'm going to get out of
2:02:48 here let me wrap up a couple of things
2:02:51 um to tomorrow's Wednesday so tomorrow
2:02:55 at 400 PM Mountain Time an Murphy and I
2:02:59 are doing our third episode of the AI
2:03:01 Readiness project I think you're here an
2:03:03 hi
2:03:04 an um if you haven't joined us it's
2:03:07 going to be uh streaming live on the AI
2:03:12 Salon uh channel it's going to be
2:03:14 streaming live on she leads AI which is
2:03:16 ANS Community it's streaming live on my
2:03:19 Twitter my
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2:03:25 LinkedIn okay
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2:04:18 gonna be so good Adnan uh wait I forget
2:04:21 I don't know how to say his last name if
2:04:23 eector um our guest he was a fan
2:04:26 favorite he's amazing so so Adnan
2:04:29 incredibly brilliant guy with like off
2:04:33 the charts EQ emotional intelligence
2:04:36 he's so smart but he's so connected as a
2:04:40 human being that he's using this AI
2:04:44 stuff in really powerful ways so join us
2:04:47 the the the whole purpose of the AI
2:04:49 Readiness project podcast
2:04:53 is to not talk about the
2:04:55 technology we we did so so this was
2:04:58 inspired out of we did AI Festivus back
2:05:00 in December where we had 34 different
2:05:02 speakers come in and 34 different
2:05:05 speakers none of them talked about
2:05:07 technology they all talked about what AI
2:05:10 meant to them as people and then they
2:05:11 would demonstrate technology but it
2:05:14 wasn't about the technology it was about
2:05:16 them as people and so that's the whole
2:05:18 point of the podcast is what does this
2:05:20 stuff mean what is the future of work
2:05:22 are you feeling like holy [ __ ] we're
2:05:25 screwed or are you feeling likeoh my God
2:05:28 this is going to change everything for
2:05:29 me and this going to be the best thing
2:05:31 ever like all of us you're probably
2:05:33 somewhere in between but that's what
2:05:34 we're exploring and it changes on a
2:05:36 week-by-week basis also so anyway so I'm
2:05:39 excited all right that's it I'm gonna
2:05:41 get out of here I'll see you tomorrow so
2:05:43 four o'clock I'll be live with an for
2:05:45 that and then 8 o'clock I'll be back
2:05:47 here doing this nonsense and maybe we'll
2:05:49 dig around more with lovable I'll see if
2:05:51 I can get that after any further than it
2:05:53 is all
2:05:58 right Matt says hi to an and Kyle hello
2:06:02 Britt says bye goodbye Brit all right uh
2:06:04 YouTube I'm gonna peace out on you guys
2:06:07 and Twitter and Linkedin peace out I'll
2:06:10 see you tomorrow
2:06:11 bye boom all right