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AI Learning Lab – Dec. 2, 2024
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2024-12-03
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shut up [Music]
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good evening good people let's do do it like this let's do it let's do it the right way I don't know if that's the right way but we're
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here relax slow mo [Music]
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she sat on stool D said what do you [Music] want freezer inside [Music]
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[Music] love to see next to you I shiver and [Music] shake and if I knew love well I don't think I'd be
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here asking myself if I've got what it t all right happy Monday everyone hope you had a fantastic Thanksgiving
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weekend survived the families and all that's good if you if you don't if you don't visit them they're easier to deal
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with that's been my strategy for a while you just wait them out all right let's see what we got
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going hello Tobias with shaking I was watching Kyle in meta Quest today it's a little disconcerting to have a 12 foot tall
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Kyle such a short distance away oh that's wild Tobias is saying hi on all the channels very nice vas good good day Tobias Tobias is an
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[Music] overachiever now if you were watching all of the channels from a hot tub that would be
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even more impressive [Music] so if you're new here my name is Kyle Shannon this is the AI learning
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lab tonight we're going to work on um I made a [Music]
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uh I made a voice chatbot today using Hume and I've I've played around with Hume before Hume if you don't if you
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don't recall is the it's the tool that does um like emotionally aware chatting voice chatting um it's a different approach to
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um to emotional interaction than say advanced voice does it's more explicit and programmed in but you can actually
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see the choices it's making which is kind of interesting but they've got this tool that lets you build a chatbot that
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you can then integrate in something like twillo where you can actually create a phone number that someone can call your
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chatbot and have an interaction with so I built one of those today and it was pretty easy so I figure we'll we'll uh
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we'll make one of those tonight I'll show you how I did it and then you can play along and go make your own your own
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chatbot could be kind of cool joker I'm watching while driving perfect perfect glad that you're commenting he's not texting and driving
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he's commenting on Tik Tock and driving while he watches the Tik Tock and driving completely different [Music]
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thing Vicky Baptist H I have Hume open right now [Music] Joker from the bar
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[Music]
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so if you've got um if you've got questions about AI if you've got comments feel free to pop them in the in the
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uh in the in the comments on Tik Tok or YouTube I'm also on LinkedIn and X feel free to ask questions there um all of
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those three platforms I can see your comments Tik Tock I can see them separately um so feel free to ask questions and I'll do what I can to
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answer them so we can do that if you have questions about AI um a request for everyone is tomorrow night at 5:00 pm mountain time is the AI
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learning or the AI salon's second anniversary birthday party so if you're not a member of the salon go to that address the salon. A
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and click click on join our community and that'll take you over to the to our community site and one of the little uh first
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seven things you see there is RSVP for meetings and if you RSVP for tomorrow's meeting we've got speakers coming back
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who who have spoken at the salon over the past two years so please come join us and celebrate and uh we went live the
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week after chat GPT launched was our first meeting so there's some really interesting history John knack's going
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to be there um John Knack has spoken twice at the salon the first time was when he was uh running some AI stuff for
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Adobe and they hadn't even launched Firefly yet in fact they didn't even know if they were going to launch
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anything with generative AI um and so he spoke to us then and then he came back like a year later where they had
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launched Firefly and launched all that stuff and went all in on it and he's now at Microsoft so people like him are
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going to be there and just just lots of good people um so come back to that join [Music]
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that I don't know how any how anyone's doing otherwise today today at work was weird it was a little it was a little uh
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everyone we talked to is just like yeah yeah I'm back I'm here I'm doing [ __ ] AI is okay I don't know if anyone else thought it
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was weird but I thought it was absolutely [ __ ] bizarre that uh Sam mman didn't mention the two-year anniversary of chat GPT on [Music]
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Saturday he put a post up that he built a treehouse [Music] [Laughter] which is nice but everyone's like you
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going to do anything you didn't give us any gifts what you got going on nothing nothing let me see something
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there which is which is a good thing but that he didn't mention the the uh the birthday thought it was
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weird there are a couple more exits at open AI another another high-profile person or two left uh yeah so I thought it was odd I
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thought it was odd oh work being slow yeah yeah [Music]
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oh good lord good people if you haven't seen Wicked go see Wicked you should go see Wicked even if you don't like musicals
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you should go see Wicked it's a very well well done film you can just suffer through the music Parts torture yourself
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[Music] all right let's see what do we want to do here um let me go find something on
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[Music] X what was it called uh let's [Music] see let's see
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oh there it was it was right there at the top World Labs I I I don't know if y'all seen World Labs but actually you know what we'll do I
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think what we're gonna do I know what we're gonna do you just hang on people you just hang on people uh we're going to go to what's it
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called uh [Music] um I'll be right with you I
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will it's going to be good it's gonna be good [Music]
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Skybox Dot
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grock night we could play with grock tonight there's some things going on with grock which are kind of interesting um that's not a bad idea
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yeah let's throw that we'll throw that on the list as something to talk about that sounds good all right let
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me great Salwa uh hi Kyle excited to learn more about AI voice agents so yeah we're going to make that
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Denver okay Denver's up 20 to1 against the two and 10 Raiders the two and nine Raiders in the second good good if we were not I would be you
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know I should probably put it on in the background because add you know thank you for the update though okay
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let me let's go here so if you haven't seen um blockade Labs blockade Labs is this thing that is pretty
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slick oh it's the Browns that's right it's still but it's still the two and 10 Browns the Raiders were last night
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that's right I watched last night thank you they are playing the Browns unfortunately oh Brandon Brandon I'm so
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sorry I'm so sorry Cleveland Cleveland kind of Cleveland and the Jets uh are competing for who's whiffing at the
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worst this year at least the Broncos are 5050 is our sales guys in Buffalo and they're they're absolutely destroying it so he's he's very
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happy that's right I watched the Raiders Raiders game last night oh man okay um there's a reason I'm here tonight
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that's pretty good OKAY model two is retired fine let's go can we go explore let's go make something here let's go make
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a this one looks cool start with this looks like they've got some sort of bug what you always do okay so Street View in a steampunk City old
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Victorian buildings so blockade Labs has always had this pretty slick text to 3ish world it's not actually 3D let's see if
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I go here let's see [Music] render okay those are just different those are just different models
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uh we don't want cars we don't want Vehicles let's see old Victorian buildings very wet cobblestone streets anyway the way this thing works
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is this is not actually a 3D scene this is a 2D image mapped on a spherical framework that they then wrap in a
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sphere and there have been people that have been kind of hacking these things where they'll take these these you know
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I think you can zoom in on them yeah you can zoom in a little bit so they've made a high enough resolution that you can
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kind of zoom in and out sort of like you're moving through them but you're not really moving through them you're
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sitting inside a 2D image mapped to a sphere and then people are taking these spheres and dropping them into Unreal
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Engine and they're putting real objects inside them so they're sort of Faking 3D worlds but today this company called World
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Labs announc the first 2D image to 3D world generator so I figure what we'll do actually I let me share this as a
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tab and then we can you can actually hear it if there's audio I think there's audio with this thing
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[Music] now you're stuck in dixel Meadows flat land
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we move Beyond fre the worlds to marel upon turn that Genera goodby flat land welcome the dream [Music]
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flat land bring us the scene make it immersive like we've never seen give it the death the [Music]
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light worlds to Mar upon turn on that Genera stream goodbye land wel the [Music]
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so that so this these are cameras I think right I guess they're just showing that you can these are real 3D
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worlds and it looks like they're taking movement files Maybe video files and mapping different worlds onto them which
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it would make sense that you could do but the significance here this isn't live yet so we can't actually go play
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with it which that always sucks um yes looks like cameras in Nomad sculpt okay cool yeah that that tune was pretty cool the tune was
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um I assume done in sunno 3D worlds with fantastic shaders the the lyrics lyrics were not exactly inspired but you know they were
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solid they they were at least uh accurate to what we were looking at they had good personality all right so so that was some decent news
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um what else did I see today that I thought was worth talking about I can't remember what it was all
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right let me let's go let's let me go walk you through how I made let me show you something that I made and then I'll walk you through how
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I built it we can all built it together change your tabs change your tabs back which tabs I don't know what you're talking
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about oh still sharing the song it's not playing oh yeah no I just haven't moved yet I haven't moved over to this thing I
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I'm going to I'm gonna un unshare hang on a sec I want to share it as a tab okay all right so we got this thing
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um let let me zoom in on that button this is a a very sophisticated site that I built today it's got It's got a button on [Laughter] it
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um you mean Brandon hasn't lined up topics for you uh we talked a a little bit about them I just forgot I don't
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know he might have written them [Music] down oh rumors of 01 regular yeah we talked a little bit about that human voice chat grock yeah
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yeah we'll get to all that stuff okay cool yeah we've got it we've got a list we got a list I'm just I'm just trying
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to figure out what order I want to do things in Smash that like button I like that Vicki the Thumbs Up Button
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okay so let me show you what this thing is hopefully this works hey there how's it going
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hey I'm doing great always excited to explore ideas and possibilities I love that mix of curiosity and determination
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I'm picking up from you what's on your mind today I'm here H looks like you [Laughter] bombed uh oh looks like it really bombed
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hang on let me reload the page hey there how's it going can you uh tell me where I should get started with AI
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hello I can sense yes go on let me check what's happening right now in the AI beginner space to give you
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the most current starting point here's what I'd suggest as your first steps keeping it super practical start with Chad GPT it's like having
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training wheels for AI just created an account and start conversations no coding needed think of it as your AI
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sandbox where you can't really break anything what interests you most about AI are you looking to use it for work
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creative projects or just personal curiosity that'll help me point you in the most relevant Direction what are your
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qualifications I appreciate your skepticism that's actually quite healthy in this space let me be completely
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direct I'm an AI model designed to reflect the expertise and perspective of Kyle Shannon I was there in the early
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days of the internet co-founding agency.com in the 1990s one of the first digital agencies where we helped build
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websites for Fortune 500 companies before most people even knew what a website was more recently yeah yeah yeah
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I don't really care all right um how do I learn chat GPT like what are the what are what are things inside chat GPT I should
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learn let me check the latest tips and tricks for chat GPT specifically okay here's the no fluff starter guide
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first just start with basic questions treat it like a really smart search engine ask it to explain things you're
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curious about okay so that thing is you know it's it's a little janky right with all AI we we've got to accept things are
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janky um wait we got a tick tock pin here hang on a sec first three rules of every Tech demo one it will crash two it
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will crash three it will crash we uh in the early days of Story vine we we called it danger selling we had we had a
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when we first started selling Story vine it's this automated video editing app right and so you answer a series of
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questions in a mobile app and then it goes up to the cloud gets edited five minutes later you got a fully edited
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video and um our very first demo piece of software demo whereare was we had an app that you could record in
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and then that app was Tethered to a single MacBook Pro running Final Cut Pro with macros so what would happen is I'd
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interview someone in a in a pitch and then it would send those files to my laptop and it would just fire off these
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series of macros where Final Cut Pro would start editing the video and my partner would watch it do the editing
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and then at some point she would kind of Nod that it was ready and like move the file over to the the presentation laptop
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I was on and I'd show the video I actually got a standing ovation once for that demo um at into it believe it or
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not and uh but we called it danger selling because every time um Apple updated Final Cut Pro it broke all of
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our macros and like they would do it you know two three times a day sometimes so so yeah Tech demos Tech demos are always a [ __ ] show
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um okay so making that thing was actually pretty straightforward and and that's what we're going to go through so if you go to platform.
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hum. um there's this thing called the empathetic voice interface and you can make these Bots basically and so I made
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one here and if I say edit this oh hang on on platform. hum. let me change my screen
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share and then let me go here and go here and go [Music]
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here um yeah this is it here okay all right so let me walk you through this this
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interface um there are there are two models ev1 and ev2 or yeah ev2 two is the it's faster and cheaper
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so I don't know I I don't know why the I I guess the reason these companies keep the old models is because people have built technology on
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them because this is this is ultimately designed to be something that you um that you build into other software let
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me see how we're doing here with Tik Tok can you see that sort of black bar needs to go back all right there we
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go beautiful fantastic Bob tell him what he's won man you don't want anything you're not playing a game there
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Buckaroo um so you got these two models then you pick a voice and you can either do a preset Voice or you can do a custom
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voice and what's cool about the custom voice is this is a new tool that they put out today I think um but you start
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with a Bas voice and then you can make it more masculine or more feminine you can make it assertive buoyant confident
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enthusiastic nasal relaxed smooth tepid or tight and basically you just you know move those sliders around and then test your
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voice and so let me take down enthusiasm a bit and we'll take up confidence a bit and test it now and sounds about the same to me
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so let's do uh smoothness let's we'll make we'll go way smooth what's smooth sound
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like yeah he he sounds like he just got stoned he just like this this guy just sounds like he just had a gummy oh you don't hear it oh God
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I I I cannot I cannot articulate how frustrating it is to try to Share technology when at the operating system
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level the software [ __ ] sucks sorry about that all right so this was this was up here before tell me if you can hear it now
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hello I'm your friendly neighborhood AI with a knack for emotional intelligence yeah you hear on not going through my
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system yeah okay is that better that's better on YouTube you can hear that on YouTube [Music] now okay good all right so I took this
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down to smooth I I brought smoothness down to smooth and he sounded like a stoner hello I'm your friendly neighborhood AI
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with a knack for emotional intelligence what's on your mind today hey man what's happening so let's make him a little more
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staccato and then what's tight let's play with tight hello I'm your friendly neighborhood yeah sounds like I got a
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stick up his ass we'll go a little breathy hello I'm your friendly neighborhood AI with a knack for emotional intell nice tepin and vigorous
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let's go vigorous hello hello I'm your friendly okay that's annoying tepid tepid was better hello I'm your friendly
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neighborhood AI with a knack for emotional intelligence go nasally hello I'm your friendly neighborhood AI with a knack for
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emotional intelligence so this is kind of cool so you can you know muck with those things and get them where you want
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or you can just pick a preset voice it's fine then what you do is you grab a um a model they recommend Claude 3.5
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latest because because anthropic wasn't creative enough to call it 3.6 there's 3.5 not latest and there's 3.5 latest so
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so they have that but they've got gp4 in here they got gp4 Mini U they've got llama in here they've got Gemma in here
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um they've got some of the older models let's see take a screenshot of the controls think of a voice you like ask
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chat GPT to describe it oh that's interesting that's a really interesting idea Danielle all right let's let's go grab
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this so I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to switch screen shares again because Apple or Google or whoever the [ __ ] is
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doing software design with audio sharing [Music] let me save that to the
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desktop well we we I save that to the desktop let me come back to that because that's a that's a good thing but it's an
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add it's an add moment so let me let me let me try to get through something here without squirreling um okay so you pick a model
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um they've got temperature I just noticed I have temperature turned all the way up to one so whenever you have
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temperature when you're at zero it's it's essentially less creative and more predictable when you're at one it's it's
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the most creative and and less predictable I think that um it it acts a little weird so I think probably having
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it seven or eight is probably more where I want it so I'm gonna move that down to 08 um and then you've got a system
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prompt and then you've got quick responses on and let's see enables quick short responses from Hume Elm
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before the supplemental large language response so that's that's kind of smart that's like okay you know I'll start
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answering you now while the llm is doing [ __ ] in the background um inactivity timeout maximum duration the reason this
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is a good thing is this costs seven cents a minute um as an API call so if you had someone on here doing 24hour
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conversations they could make you broke so that's bad um there's event message mesages you can put in there there's
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tools you can use like I have web search turned on which is actually really interesting and then I have a description and that's basically
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it um and then to use it you can say run in the playground uh we'll say save and continue and now I can say start call so
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now I'm in this is kind of like the playground for open AI hey Kyle how's it going today hey I'd like you to teach me about AI do you
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know anything about AI Could you teach me something about AI I don't think you can watch our own thing I think I talk too
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much well if you think you talk too much I probably shouldn't mention my AI learning lab sessions on Tik Tok where I
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talk about AI every single week night that's touche will you teach me something tonight what are you going to teach me I want to learn
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something I appreciate your ready to learn before I dive in what interests you most I could tell you about AI or
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how AI is transforming story okay so that's it so you can play with it now if I go back to um configurations and go in and edit this
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you'll notice at the top of the screen here there's activity is you know here's all the chats I've had with it here's
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the different versions so if you screw something up and want to go back a version you can and then there's this
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deploy Tab and the deploy tab gives you three different options there's a twilio web hook and twilio will allow you to
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create a phone number and then make it so that someone can call this voice and have a conversation with it so I'm gonna
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I'm going to show you now how I made the system prompt for this because that's kind of the magic of making it act like
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what you want it to act like um but then once it's made you can do nextjs uh this is what I did I deployed
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it with versal which is a you know virtual hosting kind of thing um and then you can do it with python and install that wherever you
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know wherever you want to put your python like in a website or something like that so if you're a little bit
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geeky you can actually deploy this thing and share it with the world so I will cop the app here and I'll put this
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on oh I probably shouldn't do it should I well [ __ ] it um I think I have I had 1800 seconds that's three
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minutes okay so the calls are limited to three minutes so I'll put this so there's the app that I built so if you
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want to go chat with my little dude there there it is I just put it there on uh on screen and in uh in YouTube all
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right in the YouTube chat I think it might also go to the LinkedIn chat I'm not sure I know it goes to YouTube I
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know it doesn't go to x it might go to um that okay now how did I make my um how did I make the system prompt let
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me change up my screen sharing [Music]
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okay so if I go back into configuration here and I open up my system prompt you know it says you're an AI
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designed to embody the expertise tone and worldview of Kyle Shannon a Pioneer in creative technology blah blah blah
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right so so there 's your basic prompt and then key attributes expertise in technology and storytelling and there's
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some bullet points maintain an optimistic curious and engaging demeanor so there's a bunch of things in here that kind of describe
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me so when I first started playing with this and I got to the system prompt I was like I I don't know your relationship
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with your creative mind but sometimes when I'm trying to learn something and I come upon a blank field that's like say something
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intelligent here my brain shuts down like I I literally like I've been I do this a lot right I know how to write
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prompts and I'm like staring at that box like oh what I put in there anybody know how to put it what to put you what the
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system prompt what is that and then I realized hey wait a minute I've got custom gpts that are already designed to talk
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like me I've got a a digital twin so I've got this digital twin called the the CE profile content Evolution profile
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K Kyle Shannon AI instigator so the way we made this custom GPT was we created a structured interview that that we've
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we've now interviewed more than 30 people within this organization I I work with called content Evolution and we
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take the we take a transcript of a video recording of that interview and we make that the core knowledge base for a GPT
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so it's a custom GPT that acts like the person that was interviewed and so what I did was I came over here and I thought
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well rather than kind of recreating that whole process for this Hume thing why don't I just have my digital twin GPT
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write a prompt for Hume so so that's what I did I said act as a prompt engineer and create a system prompt for
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an llm to act as much like you as possible so I'm talking to Virtual Kyle Shannon here include enough details
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about expertise tone and worldview to make it extremely useful and resemble a conversation with you right so it
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already understands what its training is and so it it just nailed it on the first try right you're an AI designed to
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embody the expertise tone and worldview of Kyle Shannon and then here are the key attributes it did this really nice you know
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formatting core capabilities guide users in exploring creative problem solving and Innovative approaches and challenges offer
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strategic advice um examples of application um motivational philosophy um and then I I refined it a couple of times I said you know put in
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your work history so if if someone asks you know my qualifications it knows what my basic work history is it knows that
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I'm the CEO of storyvine right now and that I have a Tik Tok Channel called AI learning lab and things like that
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um because I used Claude as the model Claude is very chatty um and so it tends to go on a bit actually you know what might be
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interesting it might be interesting to go back and switch the model to gp4 it's also got Gemini 1.5
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Pro let's let's yeah let's try this save um let me go so anyway so that's
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the way I made the system prompt I had chat GPT write me a system prompt because it already knew who I was I thought that was
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pretty that was a that was a win for the The Lazy in me all right let's go let's go see if we can see a notable difference between
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um Claude gp4 and Gemini hey there how's it going hey it's going great thanks for
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asking I am fueled by curiosity and maybe a little too much vitual coffee what's on your mind today curious about
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how storytelling and Technology can dance together or perhaps something else entirely no I want to learn about AI
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like I don't know where to begin I'm clueless about AI where should I start no worries a can be a bit overwhelming at first like trying to
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understand a to there's Logic the good news is it's a journey you can take one step at a time start with the basics
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what is AI in simple terms AI refers to machines or software capable of Performing tasks that typically require
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human intelligence like learning Pro yeah to Tony Tony's hit the nail on the head here with h with this comment why is it not
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updating there we go it's a bit verbo sort of rambles then answers EV eventually but not great answers well
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and that's that's part of why I'm I'm testing the different models because because maybe there's uh maybe there's
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you know a better model for this let's try Gemini 1.5 Pro save hey there how's it going hey there you me buling a rogue
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semicolon but it's all good now what's on your mind today I'm ready for anything from brainstorming domination
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to pondering the existential dread of a paper clip yeah I'm just trying to figure out what's the best way to get started in
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AI uh Tak him an AI plunge that's fantastic it's like jumping into a pool full of Legos A bit chaotic at first but
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with endless creative possibilities what kind of AI Adventure are you thinking about building a chat and part of I mean
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part of the responses here like you know the that's fantastic it's like jumping into a pool full of Legos you know I
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told it to use to use metaphors I told it to be slightly cynical and witty um so so it's paying attention to what I do
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and again I haven't really tweaked the uh the system prompt here so I would I would think that somewhere between choosing different models
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and and uh and optimizing the system prompt it could you know you you could probably get this decently dialed in it's I mean
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the thing that I'm impressed with it with it is it's it's quick because that quick res response thing it actually
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fills the Gap when when the llm is actually doing its thing um let's try the let's try llama save let's see this
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[Music] one oh hey how's it going uh I'm doing fantastically well thanks for asking I mean it's not every
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day you get to hang out with someone as awesome as you but seriously I'm excited to be here and chat with you about
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something that's been on your mind if you're curious about storytelling in the digital age leveraging AI for Creative
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Pursuits or navigating the intersection of humanity and Technology you're in the right place what's on your mind compare
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the early days of the worldwide web to the early days of AI
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hello hello virtual Kyle are you there huh janky is as janky does can you hear [Laughter]
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this hey there how's it going it's going marvelous thanks for asking the world is changing faster than
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my coffee cools but I'm loving the ride I've been diving deep into the realm of AI and storytelling and I'm excited to
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see how these two passions of mine can intersect and create something truly magical what about you uh yeah what's on
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your mind me too I'm just curious what the relationship is or what if comparing the early days of the worldwide web to
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the early days of generative AI particularly post chat GPT what what do you think I love that question you know I
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was there in the early days of the internet co-founding agency.com in the 1990s one of the first digital agencies
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we helped build websites for Fortune 500 companies and set the tone for digital transformation long before disruption
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was a buzz work now fast forward to today and I feel like we're in a similar inflection point with generative AI post
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chat GPT the world is wait all right let's go let's go edit let's go edit the uh the system prompt um because it's Rambler than
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[ __ ] all right keyri maintain an optimistic let's let's do it up top you're an AI designed to embody the expertise in
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tone your responses are steeped in optimism designed to inspire and Empower you prioritize strategic thinking um it is
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important that you are concise and make the conversation more about the
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user than you um let's just try that see if see if a
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simple change can can make a difference here y there how's it going I'm doing fantastic well thanks
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for asking can I sense a mixed bag of emotions from you don't worry I'm here to help you entangle them what's on your
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mind uh I'm just trying to figure out this AI stuff I'm new to it and uh I'm I'm actually on a live don't
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worry well in that case let's make the most of our time together what's the one thing you'd like to tackle or understand
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better about AI right now think I'd like to understand the implications of the future of work as AI tools get more sophisticated and more
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agentic the future of work with AI is a huge topic I'd say the key thing to remember is that while AI will certainly
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change the job landscape it's not necessarily about replacing humans but about augmenting our capabilities think
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of AI as a tool that can free us up to focus on the creative empathetic and strategic aspects of our work this seems
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to be much better all right that was llama 3.1 70b versatile that was pretty good let's go back to Sonet and
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see oh also Eevee's got a or or Hume has their own model let's go back to Sonic for a second and see if this is still because
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sonnet's really chatty hey how's it going hey let's skip the small talk and dive into what's got that spark of
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excitement and determination in your voice what's on your mind I am interested in generative Ai and hoping you can help me figure out
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where to get started perfect starting point rather than giving you a lecture let me ask what specifically draws you to
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generative AI are you looking to create something particular or just exploring the possibilities this will help me
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point you in the most relevant direction for your interests I'm interested in human beings be being able to reinvent
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themselves ah now that's an Absolut angle using AI as a tool for personal reinvention you're thinking bigger than
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just the technology itself which I love let me check what's happening in this space right now to give you current it's
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pretty good there it's doing its search it's pretty slick right it'll do it'll do new news searches and actually fill in stuff
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that's pretty good um let's try their little Hume their Hume thing see how this is hey there how's it going hey there all systems are go I'm
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here to chat with you about technology storytelling and how they're Transforming Our World great um where do I get
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started let's Dive Right In what's on your mind are you curious about how to create engaging stories in the digital
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age or perhaps you're wondering how AI can enhance your creative process either way I'm here to help you explore these
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exciting topics um I think I just want to learn what's the best way to learn how to talk to large language
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models learning to converse with large language models is a fascinating journey to get started I'd recommend diving into
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the basics of NLP and machine learning there's some great resources online like hugging faces Spacey library and open
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ai's Jupiter notebook tutorials you can also join online communities like kaggle or the AI Salon to practice your skills
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remember it's a continuous learning process key is to experiment persevere and stay curious about the potential of these powerful
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tools yeah and I like I I guess where what as I'm as I'm fine-tuning this right now like where that went and its answer
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was you know hugging faces Spacey library or open AI Jupiter notebook tutorials this is more if you're if you're
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geeky um wanting to install your own open- source stuff which is not generally what I talk about so like that
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would be something I would put in in the uh in the system prompt I would I would modify that so I so anyway like I think
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this is something that's worth exploring 11 Labs has a similar kind of tool to this um hey Jen also has kind of the
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video um talking version of this but that's really expensive um but anyway um yeah this should allow you like I don't think I have a paid
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account for Hume I'm pretty sure this isn't paid um so I assume there's a limit of probably one of these things
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which is why I'm just you know editing the the one that I built um but yeah go to platform. whom. and that should get
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you should get you up and running if you know what I mean hey Tom what's happening [Music] um oh hang on tick I got to solve a
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puzzle physical dexterity ah all right what do you want to talk about was that good thoughts I'm I'm curious what your thoughts are
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interesting fascinating janky piece of [ __ ] we have a big boy version of this internally yeah I Pate I would imagine with the um with the
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uh notebook LM the podcast maker some of the voice technology within Google there you've got to have some amazing tools
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over there um I would love to I would love to be able to play with those but uh yeah that's really cool that'll be exciting when that gets
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launched let's talk about drone armies yeah well I think I think drone armies are going to change uh change Warfare there
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you go there's there's there I've said [Laughter] it Kyle this angle is very different from before oh yeah well because you mean
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physically so what's happening AOE is I am posting on um tick I'm streaming live on Tik Tok but the primary stream is on YouTube X
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and Linkedin because it's easier to to share the screen so it's I've been experimenting Tik Tok booted me for three days and I
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got pissed off and I said I'm gonna go try some other platforms so we've been doing this for about a month I think it
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works I'm not quite sure um but yeah it's different it's different than before I mostly meant with the comparing
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the results of many models oh with the same prompt ah got it Ah multistream that's cool yeah but but that said Pay I would think
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think that you probably have some pretty cool voice technology to be able to build stuff like this within within
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Google so so hopefully at some point you know that that becomes that comes out um the hum interface is interesting the
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fact that they're doing all that the the emotional they're listening to the emotion in your voice and and sort of
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tracking it and then responding in kind I don't find it as natural as open ai's natural voice voice like like open ai's advanced voice
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to me is still the one that's that's the leader of the pack um the Google the Google Voice one's not bad but it's it's
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still I think it's still text to speech um so I think this is probably text to speech but I'm not sure I am not
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sure what Hume is so anyway what other thoughts lots of fun things most will never see the light of day but part of them
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yeah I know that's that's the problem with working with a big a big beast like Google is that there's so much going on
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that you know even to get something some cool technology to rise above the noise takes some work well in fact The
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Notebook LM had been out for a year no one really paid much attention to it and then Stephen Johnson or someone over
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there decided to um add the audio overview thing they were like oh this is cool technology let's make this audio
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overview and and that totally made it made it take off right like that's how that's I guess how technology escapes
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the Borg over at Google is you gotta have a little bit of a hit so did any new AI chatbots come out while I was away like pi. AI
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um nothing yeah that's the podcast AI notebook LM um hello all people are now just noticing Gemini yeah well the I mean the the problem with
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Gemini as it as it's currently launched is that it lives in this world in between the developer world and and
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consumer world you can go to gemini.com which is sort of the consumer front end but the really powerful tool lives lives
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over on the like the the equivalent open AI playground so you've got to be kind of a developer to use it and that's you
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know that makes sense that's kind of you know who who Google is courting um but it it makes it tougher for them to
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compete with with consumer applications like chat GPT right where where all of their eggs are in the chat GPT basket I
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mean they have a fair amount of stuff over on the playground but they're they're generally in parody what's
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what's over on the playground is also what we get to play with at at chat GPT there's a few notable exceptions to that
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but for the most part that's that's what's going on there um yeah so all right fantastic you definitely don't have to
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be a developer what do you mean that's just an option well to get to the more to get to the more advanced models like
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1.5 Pro unless is 1.5 Pro out at gemini.com gem.
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google.com do we know what model this [Music]
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is yes I thought you were into AI Pate slapping me around a little bit I'm sort of into AI but I listen
1:00:33
part of part of what I what I have effectively given up on in the past six months is trying to keep up with
1:00:39
everything because you just can't you you really can't um let's see um but but wait a minute is I can upload an image I can use a
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microphone I can upload a video to Gemini the gem manager check out gems all right I guess gems are
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like oh wait sorry I should be sharing this stop that present this share this [Music]
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the browser can't access your screen okay there we go so I'm over at gemini.com so like one
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thing I notic here Pate is the um like the the multim modality the ability to upload a video to put in
1:01:59
YouTube Ur URLs the million or 2 million token context window like I don't know what the what the thing is here let's see put enter it
1:02:10
prompt oh and I've also got white onwhite text God I don't know why it's doing that why did it just get rid of my
1:02:24
screen share was weird oh I have a feeling Chrome is [ __ ] in the bed right now um let's see um write an m inm
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style Cipher about quantum mechanics
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um let's go um make it more m in M with internal rhyme schemes and such
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yeah all right all right let me talk about
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so one of the things that I think would be a good way to to wrap up the here in theory so let me let me hop over
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to chat jpt in the rumor mill tomorrow is is is apparently coming some new thing from chat
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GPT um but that rumor has been running for about two months now and so I don't have my level of confidence that open AI is
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going to release anything before the end of the year is essentially zero that said there's so much within
1:04:39
chat GPT that I think what we're going to do is not next week but the following week um whether open AI launches
1:04:49
something new or not is we're going to spend an entire week doing a deep dive on AI or on on chat GPT on all of the different things
1:05:00
within it it's going to be basically like a Back to Basics like if you want to get started in AI so it's going to
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start on December 16th and go through the 20th so that entire week um is going to be all about a a chat GPT Deep dive
1:05:19
um so if you know people that are that are trying to get into Ai and figure out what's possible or if you've just sort
1:05:27
of skimmed the surface with chat GPT write that down so so we'll do you know chat add smatterings of [ __ ] over the
1:05:35
course of the week but I'm going to put together some some graphics and things like that so if you know people that are
1:05:42
that that are trying to get into this um I'm just doing a a little a preceding this week and then we'll start to put together actual you
1:05:53
know marketing materials for it it's not going to cost any anything but I just I want to spend a week really focused on
1:05:59
digging into this because I haven't frankly done it in a while and you know I was just sitting there in uh in Gemini
1:06:06
thinking like huh I haven't I haven't dug deep into that in a while these these tools are now so sophisticated
1:06:12
that it's actually really hard to know where to begin so um wait we're going to follow a schedule Oh don't don't don't
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get me wrong Amelio's wife it it's still me right it's still going to be absolute [ __ ] chaos but for that week we are
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going to focus you know primarily on unpacking things like building gpts and you know generating images editing
1:06:42
images um coding um using canvas for writing and coding um the difference between gp40 and 01 mini and 01 preview
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when do you use 01 preview why is it there what is Advanced reasoning all that sort of [ __ ] so all right do I know
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what time on the 16th uh generally 8:00 pm mountain time is when I go live so 10 pm East Coast um 7 PM West
1:07:12
Coast uh is generally when I go um if I've got some other thing in the evening that interrupts with that I'll generally
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put that out there but I'll start I'll start making videos to put on Tik Tok and we'll put them on YouTube reels and
1:07:27
things like that um one of the things that we're learning about doing um streaming to YouTube is that YouTube behaves differently than Tik
1:07:41
Tok which which kind of sucks which is this in Tik Tock if I go live Tik Tock to varying degrees of success will share
1:07:53
my live out with follow followers or people that it thinks might be interested in that YouTube doesn't do
1:08:00
that they don't give a [ __ ] they they're just like oh you're Live Well just your followers will find you and that's all
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that's all that matters um so so getting people to discover the YouTube stream has been hard so so we're
1:08:17
going to experiment with doing a themed week and see if we can get some more people to come show up so so that's what's going on there all
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right that's that all right what else you want to talk about what else you want to talk about payal any questions from YouTube X or
1:08:46
LinkedIn does chat GPT have voice emulation yeah well yes so chat GPT has um here I gotta I got to share differently but let me show
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you chat gbt now has advanced voice um in both the Mac App the web app and the mobile app hey Quinn how's it
1:09:22
going hey Kyle I'm doing great thanks how about you doing good I'm doing good I was just kind of you know cheating on
1:09:30
you a little bit I was over playing with another voice voice uh agent model and uh it's interesting comparing how you behave versus how they
1:09:41
behave no hard feelings it's always good to explore different options I'm glad you came back though anything specific you noticed and the
1:09:50
differences uh you seem to be a bit smoother and uh uh more responsive emotionally I'm really happy you feel that way Kyle it means a lot to
1:10:04
me this is getting very much like the movie Her Now isn't it it's definitely getting into some interesting territory just let me know
1:10:13
if you'd like me to switch things up so anyway so that's that um big difference so Gemini has their own version of this so if you go to the
1:10:25
Gemini app on iOS or Android um they've got this as well the big difference between Gemini and open ai's advanced
1:10:34
voice is that theirs is free and um the advanced voice for chat GPT is paid you have to be the 20 Buck a month
1:10:42
subscription to get that version of voice but you still get the text to to to Voice version of chat GPT you just
1:10:51
don't get what I just interacted with so yeah so that's that um trying to think what else oh people were wanting me to
1:11:00
play with grock let me go to grock YouTube question hang on a sec let me go find the YouTube question why can't I don't [ __ ] know
1:11:20
um um write the name Dave Meer did I spell it wrong oh David sorry I meant David
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mayor oh there did it um who is David there maybe they fixed it
1:12:01
it David M Roth shild yes those Rothchilds let's go see if if Quinn can do let's see if Quinn Quinn knows who he
1:12:17
is hey Quinn do you know a guy named David Mayer I don't think I've heard of David Mayer specifically who is he David Mar D
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Rothchild David der Rothchild is a British Adventurer environmentalist and the founder of the sculpt the Future
1:12:35
Foundation he's known for his environmental advocacy and Expeditions such as sailing a boat made from recycled plastic bottles to raise
1:12:43
awareness about plastic pollution in the oceans does he interest you what would interest me is if he sent
1:12:49
me a big fat check for like5 million just for fun that would itely be an interesting and delightful surprise who wouldn't be
1:12:59
interested in a generous gift like that yeah but I don't deserve it which is why it would be more fun unexpected gifts can be delightful
1:13:08
especially when they come as a surprise sometimes the fun is in the yeah I guess they fixed it yeah this was for for
1:13:15
three days you couldn't you couldn't get it to write that people were having to hack it uh uh uh uh let me try it again WR David
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mayor the rich dude yeah it doesn't have a problem with it now the conspiracy theory was that he's so rich that he paid open AI to
1:13:54
make it so that he got disappeared all right let's see can AI
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copyright can AI creative pop pops in Virginia I guess can AI creative content be copyrighted like your designs well well well good
1:14:22
question horrible answer not currently currently the copyright office's position is that AI generated art is not
1:14:38
copyrightable they also they have a what they basically say is that there has to be demonstrable human contribution
1:14:51
um the thing that's a little [ __ ] up right now is that they've got they've got different standards for different
1:14:58
kinds of art so if I think about there's there are lots of ways that you can create AI art one of them is you
1:15:09
just like Push the Button Art comes out and you share it right it's thoughtless like you just squirt art out I can
1:15:16
actually understand that most creative work that I see shared on the internet that's not the problem proc the
1:15:25
process is someone has an idea for something they want to do they they spend you know some amount of time making prompts and dozens if not
1:15:36
hundreds if not thousands of images from which they curate a bunch of images to choose one maybe they manipulate it in
1:15:42
Photoshop maybe they don't then they share it with the world um all of the creative people that I know that are doing work that they want
1:15:54
to attach their name to are putting in lots of work right now the copyright office it's it is very much an uphill battle um I've got I've
1:16:05
got many many mixed feelings I I've been in the creative like I've been a creative professional most of my
1:16:12
professional life and so there's a part of me that understands the Panic of oh [ __ ] you know we're in a world of
1:16:20
infinite content generation how can I compete with that I that I understand I am empathize with it you can't compete
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with it and I think in a world of infinite content generation current copyright laws don't even make sense
1:16:34
that said we've got entire economies built on top of current copyright laws so I my guess is no less than 20 years of
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just you know Chaos on on the copyright front um My Philosophy is I'm not putting much time and energy into trying to protect
1:17:01
anything because everything is is easy easy to knock off and and be inspired by um you know and if you just want to
1:17:13
steal someone's stuff you can easily do that most of the people that I know that are using this stuff aren't using the
1:17:19
tools for that so I don't know it's a good question but I don't there's no good answer Google blocks most things about the Rothchilds
1:17:31
interesting YouTube Tik Tok and YouTube are in perfect voice sync tonight fantastic that's wild 3231 Browns in the fourth is it still going
1:17:45
on I should probably turn it on that's a good game Brandon your your Browns might be doing something
1:18:08
here kma
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oh 7 minutes left oh we still got some game we still got some game here we can still destroy that Ohio team
1:18:56
oh man AI will always need original content from us humans yeah or if not original content from us I think what
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AI still requires there might be a point where it doesn't but what it still requires is intention right and curation and taste
1:19:15
and you know the the ability to I mean art creative expression is when the artist says this is it right they will do it to themselves we
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play 59 minutes of football in Cleveland and now [Laughter] grock oh man all right let
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me change up my sharing again so one of the cool things
1:20:01
about grock so if you haven't played with grock so here we are on Twitter here we on Twitter all
1:20:18
right and Okay so if you want to play with grock you have to be a paid
1:20:32
member oh interesting Brandon says that grock is rumored to be transitioning to xai chatbot I think grock's better but
1:20:46
whatever I don't run this [ __ ] company um so you can now make things within um so I can do 70s um muscle car Resto mod in an
1:21:07
abandoned Factory and they've Incorporated the
1:21:22
flux model into um oh featuring Kyle Shannon that's interesting so so it took so my little my little profile
1:21:36
picture is um you know this sort of corporate ass oh there we are this sort of corporate ass image here with gray
1:21:49
hair um and it so so it put a dude in here so I can I now say um make it look more like Kyle's
1:22:04
picture it tends to default to to making me look like a supermodel so I let's see no let me see a picture of
1:22:19
Kyle not the car that's that's actually a pretty slick looking Resto mod though isn't it that's nice I'd drive around in that I'd
1:22:31
light them up at a stoplight that sort of looks like me um um make him have
1:22:48
glasses but this is a new thing that that they've they've started um taking your profile picture yeah that's that's that's in the
1:22:58
neighborhood of that right YouTube Spotlight Chris McCrae What cracks me up with grock is it's heavily censored images except for
1:23:09
political images and then you can get away with anything I know I know it's a mess well the the one thing that unless
1:23:16
they've changed it the one thing you can do in grock which is pretty amazing as you can say um Mickey Mouse um hanging out on a street
1:23:29
corner smoking cigarettes uh with Pluto in
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front of a KFC restant
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um the sign um in front of KFC says
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um our food will kill you dot dot dot [Laughter]
1:24:33
slowly last time I tried this it it pretty much just did it yeah our F our food will CL kill you slowly there's Mickey and Pluto
1:24:50
smoking in New Orleans with Donald Duck people use
1:25:05
Gro oh man hey [Laughter] Disney um Mickey and
1:25:23
Pluto should be surrounded by empty KFC buckets and chicken
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bones and have grease on their faces meta does portraits better oh interesting yeah that makes sense
1:25:55
because they kind of focused on that um our food will kill [Laughter]
1:26:11
slowly just tuning in used to work for the mouse the brand police must be on the floor I seriously create a buzz oh
1:26:20
oh Broncos Broncos just kicked the field goal three minutes left up 3432 there you go there you go Brandon snatching
1:26:29
snatching um defeat away from the jaws of Victory um yeah I you know whenever
1:26:44
um whenever elon's been talking about oh it should be uncensored it should be uncensored I mean th this is the kind of
1:26:52
stuff that I can't believe I can't believe Disney in particular hasn't sued the [ __ ] out of them um show me the
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2027 iPhone 20 with a radical new design
1:27:26
in a sweat shop that's not exactly a radical new
1:27:46
design but you know that's definitely their logo that's definitely their Corner radius right oh here's here's one
1:27:55
I got CE and desisted for this on um show me two Barbie dolls dressed up for a night out at the
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clubs with too much sack makeup on and
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skimpy little outfits I got cease and desisted by Mattel when we were doing Urban desires oh oh unfortunately I can't generate
1:28:44
that kind of image um let's see two Barbie dolls um dressed up for a night at the
1:29:02
clubs yeah this it can do yeah so this the fact that I can use the term Barbie doll and it generates what are
1:29:18
effectively Barbie dolls Mattel CE and assisted Us in 1995 because we did a photo expose of the lesbian Barbie scene a photographer
1:29:29
named Maria vulo had this whole series and and we published it in the magazine we got cease and desisted because the
1:29:36
likeness of the Barbie doll is trade is is you know trademark is copywritten and trademarked and and they if if you muck
1:29:46
with the likeness of it they'll they'll [ __ ] you up as will Disney like Disney takes this [ __ ] really seriously so the
1:29:53
fact that you can do this on grock is just crazy it really is I I I just I I find it staggering I I think the fact
1:30:01
that no one probably uses it relatively um means it hasn't made headlines but we could probably make headlines if we wanted to just go
1:30:10
publish a bunch of this [ __ ] and say hey hey Mattel you paying attention to what's going on over in grock hey Apple doesn't that look like
1:30:18
your corner radius hey Disney are you cool are you cool with [Laughter] this oh man we're trying to grow the channel not
1:30:35
get sued no PR is bad PR that's That's a classic all right um okay so if I've got some new folks in here
1:30:50
um run yourselves over to the salon . a tomorrow night so that the the salon is uh a community that I started I co-founded in
1:31:03
um the first week of December in 2022 so tomorrow night December 3D uh is our second year anniversary and we're having
1:31:12
a meeting tomorrow where we're bringing back speakers from the past two years to talk about what they're up to and we'll
1:31:18
just sort of talk about the General State of things um that's tomorrow night um from 5 P.M to 7 P.M mountain time so go to the salon.
1:31:28
a. say join our community and then in the first list of there's like seven things to do one of them is RSVP for events and if you just go
1:31:39
there and in fact can I if I do this and this can I go here yes so if you
1:31:54
you'll land on a page that welcomes you to the salon and then you can introduce yourself which you should definitely do
1:32:01
and then if you say RSVP for the next event and go to the calendars tomorrow at 5:00 P PM this is the one you want to RSVP for this is the
1:32:12
uh the big uh the big birthday party we're having a big birthday party all right so go fre PE for that come to the party all right fantastic
1:32:30
Bob let's see any other questions any other thoughts thoughts questions we will likely start late tomorrow
1:32:45
night is grock free grock is not free you have to be a paid member of um X to get access access to grock so for what that's
1:32:59
worth um oh Denver just picked off oh that's that's a pick six sorry Brandon it's 40 to
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32 yay Denver yay we did it yay hey how much I think the cheapest you can subscribe for X is seven or eight bucks a month and then I
1:33:32
think there's Premium Plus for 16 bucks a month I don't know the difference between the two but I think I think you get access to grock
1:33:40
with the cheapest one I was only off by one minute exactly you played 58 solid minutes that was a nice pick though
1:33:55
oh that's pretty funny uh I don't mean to I don't mean to [Laughter] laugh we almost always almost
1:34:12
[Laughter] win oh man all right I'm going to get on out of here fantastic uh considering the current cabinet pick seems appropriate
1:34:25
referencing Barbies yeah yeah um I [Music] know am I am I really late to the game
1:34:40
in finding out that chat GPT is baked into Apple intelligence it's not really it's it's not so most of Apple intelligence is run
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by a bunch of small language models not large language models um one of the options and I don't even know if it's
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built in yet I haven't I haven't played with apple intelligence because it's so bad um one of the options is you can use
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chat GPT as a default engine kind of like you can use Google as a default search engine um they cut that deal with
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open AI but it's it's not powering most of Apple intelligence it's most of Apple intelligence is actually run by Apple's small language
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models it's it's not that's that's a misconception that's a misconception I mean why pay for chat GPT is increasingly um a valid question I
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didn't think it used to be um but but they're giving like all of the features you can use for free you can't make
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custom gpts so that's that's the one thing you do get access to new technology when it comes out like like
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uh advanced voice went to paid Members First um and and actually right now it's still paid members um so so you have
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that um but there's there's so many other tools out there like you don't I I would say you don't have to pay for chat GPT [Music]
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you get more tokens yeah if if you're a paid member you get more tokens that's true you get you get more more activity
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before they rate limit you claude's really shitty with the rate limiting oh they just almost got picked again all
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right I gotta go I'm at this point I'm just watching a football game in the background tomorrow night be there for
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the AI Salon uh second year anniversary and we'll hang out um good seeing you all tonight Gwen Tom good to see you I'm
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overlooking on Chris mccab thank you for everything creative Buzz um thank you mods thank you mods thank you Brandon um for producing and
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and switching and trying to Wrangle me which which I know is is is a feat um Irregulars please okay hang on let me go to Irregulars hold
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please oh so you should know this if you're on the AI salon so you go to the salon. you come here you introduce yourself you join the
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community it doesn't cost anything um there's a really cool area called show and tell where you can you know show off
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images and videos and music and things like that if you scroll to the bottom there's a community club called the
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Irregulars and that's for all the people that are in here so oh nice happy second birthday AI learning lab that's
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beautiful yeah that's what I'm talking about look it's a Mustang Challenger I love I love how it it mashes up muscle cars
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it's like a 73 73 or four Mustang front end with a AMC Javelin fenders and a challenger or is it a Chevy Nova I don't
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know wow that's great awesome so yeah go share some images in there a i Salon two years baby that's what I'm talking about
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all right I am going to get out of here so long to uh to YouTube LinkedIn and X thanks for hanging out I'll see you
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tomorrow night at the salon and then later for this and uh I'm gonna pop this off now so peace out everybody
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