11/26/2024 - AI's Creative Potential: From Janky Tools to Musical Masterpieces

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3. 0:33[Music] hi champion [Music]
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6. 1:20engine turning the old F outside [Music] you leave again
7. 1:36today you convince me again today you're leaving this H Town looking for someone else's Golden
8. 1:51Ring should say so long suzan [Music] hush now don't you [Music]
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10. 2:23Me sharing cigarettes and keeping warm out on the road chasing down a lifestyle out on Highway 24 New York state was rolling Breeze and
11. 2:38the Sunshine with a blue sky falling J September [Music] creep you leave again
12. 2:55today you convince me okay today we leaving this hotel looking for someone else's C and [Music]
13. 3:12R so long suan don't you cry for [Music] me so long
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15. 3:50Me solid solid singing champ welcome everybody happy Tuesday night p on Tik Tok on LinkedIn on YouTube on x we're
16. 4:00everywhere we're all over the Internet we're going live it's Kyle Shannon this AI learning lab what are we learning
17. 4:05tonight dogs can sing better than people that's not really funny all right thanks um you know Talent is a funny [Music]
18. 4:22thing oh good evening okay so if you're on the Tik Tock one of the things we'll do is is we'll we'll demo
19. 4:30uh how to do things and like for example one of the things we did last night was we demoed how not to do things I failed miserably I spent I
20. 4:43don't know what 90 minutes straight trying to do something that was an abject failure why because I'm unqualified to be here
21. 4:57[Music] [Laughter] oh wow Joy pie is a new Grandma Joy congratulations that's exciting how awesome how awesome is that well that's
22. 5:11a that's a Thanksgiving week uh bundle of appreciation and joy and congratulations that's really amazing [Music]
23. 5:36if you're on link LinkedIn or X um if you're on if you're on YouTube you probably because YouTube here we're
24. 5:44learning some things as we're doing this um if you're on Tik Tok and you want to be able to see better go to if you go to
25. 5:50my profile and click on YouTube that'll take you to the YouTube stream it's also learning la- aai on YouTube but if
26. 5:58you're here on LinkedIn if you just stumbled upon this and you're like what the hell is this why is he playing a
27. 6:03guitar why is this on this late at night it's just I don't normally stream on LinkedIn but I figure it doesn't really
28. 6:11matter no one's watching anyway but hello uh same on X um this is uh this is the AI learning lab stream and it's streaming to my my
29. 6:22personal X account cuz I don't think I have an AI learning lab account on X it doesn't really matter but anyway
30. 6:32welcome so if you have questions about AI or you want to talk about a piece of technology or you want to see something see me try to demo
31. 6:42[Laughter] something I came here last night I thought he was going to teach me something it's called the AI learning
32. 6:50lab and you would assume if it's a lab there would be some sort of Professor there or some sort of scientist some
33. 6:56sort of technician and it he it just it I'll tell you that like it kind of had the feeling of like as if there was like
34. 7:05a it was like kind of like an old man um trying to figure out how to use a computer is was the was the the so I
35. 7:14don't really know what I learned so if you want to learn that tonight stick around we'll do more of that want to talk about how the Sora
36. 7:24leak on hugging face yeah so it does appear that some of the uh people that had access to Sora Early
37. 7:38Access to Sora wrote sort of a ransom note kind of kind of email that said hey we had access we got free access to this thing
38. 7:49in exchange for finding bugs and testing [ __ ] and they're just using Us for free bug testing and then they and then they made
39. 7:59it uh freely available uh to everyone for about 3 hours and then uh open AI found out about it and shut that [ __ ]
40. 8:08down but now no one has access to it that that had access to it um I my feeling on Sora at this point is there
41. 8:22are eight or nine or 10 other viable options than Sora like Sora was a huge deal back in [ __ ] March and now
42. 8:32you've got like Hal Halo Mini Max is is right in the same neighborhood with with Sora so they should just [ __ ] launch
43. 8:42the thing I don't know what they're waiting for at this [Music] point great to be here learning I appreciate this community so much
44. 8:54authentic and playful thank you and generous it is indeed spin B3 ULU RX thank you for the gift Winston Robert
45. 9:04Rossy thank you for the gifts everybody I do appreciate that I do this out of the I would say the goodness of my heart but it's not a
46. 9:13good thing I do this oh thank you Robert Rossy it's very generous I do this because no one cares about Sora anymore
47. 9:19I think we're all pissed at this point yeah exactly it's like I I mean again if all of the video models sucked
48. 9:28and we're like we need Sora because it's the only one that's good that would be one thing but like no there's there's
49. 9:35you know out of the 10 that are available there's four or five that are really quite good um I might play with
50. 9:42Luma Labs tonight they came out with a really um they at least took a swing at an Innovative interface which I kind of
51. 9:51like I think it's it's really smart um [Music] I also think it might be fun to go over and play with Claude Claude um Claude today released
52. 10:06Styles so that you can um you can make it right like you or you can you know make it informal or formal or scientific
53. 10:13or whatever it might be you can build your own so that might be fun to play with and then we're going to continue down the path of um Avatar
54. 10:26[Music] making and like I said said last night was an abject failure but you know this is this is how you [ __ ] [Music]
55. 10:46learn our Town's chamber sponsored free class on chat GPT plus canvas so I attended it was just me and the instructor there you go
56. 11:02well Jeff that's where we are I I mean I I mean for the Irregulars here for the for the people that come to to this channel
57. 11:14nightly you know we've been doing this for almost two years now we've I've been doing these lives since April I think it
58. 11:21was April 30th of 20123 was our first one so we're coming up on two years of doing these things every night
59. 11:29and the group that hangs out here regularly like I would argue with this generative AI stuff are as educated and
60. 11:36as you know good at this and understanding what all the different options are and how to how to string
61. 11:45different tools together to get outputs I mean this group is is really up to it and we're a bit of an echo chamber here
62. 11:52where where you know it's it's pretty [ __ ] clear to us how big a deal this AI stuff is uh but out there in the real
63. 12:03world there's just not a lot of awareness of it and and uh enthusiasm for it and the whole reason this channel
64. 12:15exists is because that makes me hurt inside um because the amount of opportunity right now for all of us is
65. 12:23massive and the amount of uh people just either aware of it or actively resisting it is is really frustrating I think this
66. 12:34stuff is so important to us and so unimportant to the rest of the world well it's I mean it's the thing is it's like any new
67. 12:42technology the people that are aware of it have massive opportunity we've got massive opportunity and I know it might
68. 12:49not feel like that right now because it's just like the tools are just they're still janky enough that they're
69. 12:56not quite there but holy [ __ ] we're the we're we're we're in the middle of Crossing this threshold you know
70. 13:04Saturday is November 30th so November 30th 2022 was the launch of chat GPT that was the beginning of this channel
71. 13:13that was the beginning of the AI Salon which if you don't know the AI Salon there's the URL you should go
72. 13:22there and you should scroll down and click on the button that says join our community and it doesn't cost anything
73. 13:29and the community is remarkable there's a nice little welcoming uh process there there's a video that you can watch
74. 13:36welcoming you to the community see what we're [Music] about um so yeah go uh go check out the salon
75. 13:54the salon our first meeting of the of the AI Salon was December 7th 2022 so one week after chat GPT came out so Saturday is
76. 14:07the two-year anniversary of chat GPT so rumor has it that we will get some new toys from Sam Alman and [Music]
77. 14:20Company but I'm in a new place philosophically with waiting for tools from open AI I don't give a [ __ ]
78. 14:34because um at this point there is so there is so much to explore that's not open AI um and and while they're
79. 14:45still in the lead in my opinion there's others that are really close and if they give us something new and revolutionary
80. 14:51great but if they don't just even things like you know what we're doing this week with avatars exploring like how do you
81. 14:58build a avatars and build you know representations of yourselves and how do you do that in a in a way that's not
82. 15:05going to break the bank in a way that um Works doesn't look like [ __ ] um there's a lot to learn um even
83. 15:15even silly things well I don't know if it's silly it's not silly to some things like you know how do you use something
84. 15:21like puno to make songs that are good and what if you want to make songs that are good enough to say put in a musical
85. 15:27or you want to you know put them out on the radio um Timberland is doing that producer Grammy award-winning producer
86. 15:34is using sunno so what's the difference between just making a song in sunno and doing something to put out in the world
87. 15:42with your name on it I don't know what is the difference like none of us know that yet it's like so there's there's
88. 15:51just so much to explore so but that said maybe we get a one tomorrow maybe we get soono tomorrow or s tomorrow was I saying sunno earlier I
89. 16:03might have been Sora is the video tool from open AI Tobias in the YouTube Welcome welcome [Music]
90. 16:25welcome oh Dam Danielle she's pumped about AGI Alpha fold Alpha proteo being open- sourced go democratize big farm on cure
91. 16:39diseases yep I mean I mean like I again I I just yes I agree and holy [ __ ] 2025 like the fact that you know a local Town
92. 16:56puts on a come learn about chat GPT session and one guy shows up and the guy that shows up is in irregular here that
93. 17:05probably knows as much as the instructor knew or [Laughter] more it just it just says to me that so many people are going to be blindsided
94. 17:16by this technology and that's terrifying to me because if you're involved with AI you can feel this thing accelerating away
95. 17:24from us right like how do we keep up with it I don't [ __ ] know I'm you know at this Point I've given up on that
96. 17:30I'm just like well we'll start doing smaller deeper dive projects that's the thing I'm excited about now so all
97. 17:40right archetypal architect I don't remember did we go crazy for smartphones oh did we go this crazy for smartphones or cell phones um
98. 17:54well when the first when the first iPhone came out I mean I mean people have been talking about smartphones and SMS gaming and all that
99. 18:04sort of [ __ ] for years but the form factor was the phone with buttons on it right it was shitty and then they they would try to remember
100. 18:15there was a there was a Palm Pilot that came out that that had Palm Pilot at the top and a phone at the bottom and that
101. 18:23that was sort of there and the Newton came out that tried to be this and then when the when the um when the
102. 18:33iPhone came out it was just all of a sudden like ah it it's a new form factor right and then even when the new iPhone
103. 18:40came out the applications weren't actually applications they were websites right do you remember that and all the
104. 18:47programmers were like ah this is [ __ ] these aren't real applications it's just web it's just web pages everyone was bitching um but but
105. 19:01the the iPhone didn't fundamentally [ __ ] up all your other phones right you can still buy phones with buttons on them right so it was an
106. 19:16addition too and it opened up a whole new kind of market right the App Store and all that sort of stuff it opened up
107. 19:22a whole new kind of marketing I would say that the last time we had something that was this foundational um was the worldwide web
108. 19:33right so in the mid90s the internet had been around for decades everyone talked about the internet and how you could
109. 19:39share files and Librarians used it and there was FTP servers and goer servers and there were dial up you know you
110. 19:47could connect to chat boards and things like that and then AOL sort of turned that into CompuServe I think started and
111. 19:55then AOL came next and and Prodigy ort of took that shitty internet and put kind of a pretty skin on it um but they were walled Gardens and
112. 20:06they were closed and they were proprietary and they were weird and you had to pay per minute and you had to dial
113. 20:12up and then the worldwide web comes along and anyone who could learn a couple of HTML tags could put up a
114. 20:22website right and then anyone could use it so you so you you you all of a sudden computers went from these disconnected things to these
115. 20:36things where people could start to self-express with technology and and share it with the world and that was my big Epiphany with
116. 20:47the worldwide web was I launched a an online magazine and three weeks later it was written about in a Parisian
117. 20:55newspaper and it just all of a sudden I realized holy [ __ ] the world's just changed so the the difference between
118. 21:03the worldwide web and this AI stuff well there's there's many of them but but the worldwide web the infrastructure wasn't there we
119. 21:12we were still using dialup modems when when we were doing all our web development like having a T1 line you
120. 21:20know where you had always on Internet that was a big deal like I I think the initial T1 lines were like 10 grand a
121. 21:26month yeah they were 10 grand a month they were really expensive um just to have always on internet and then you know over five six
122. 21:38years the infrastructure gets built and and everything takes off from there so I would say that the worldwide web was the
123. 21:46the last time we had something this transformative but it was a much slower burn but you still had you had geeky early adopters that
124. 21:55learned how to program websites right and that's what I ended up doing I started an agency to do that but you
125. 22:01also just had end users that were like I want to go use these websites that that these Geeks are building that's what's
126. 22:08going on with AI right now right we get to go use chat GPT and some of the more industrious you know non-programmers are
127. 22:17making custom gpts and they're going to something like repet or lovable. deev and making applications and they're you
128. 22:24know making images and they're they're doing things for other companies they're creating agencies right so all of that
129. 22:32opportunity is still there the difference now is with with AI is the infrastructure is there right everyone's
130. 22:39on all the time we've got these massive data centers that can generate these Frontier models and the tools themselves the
131. 22:49worldwide web was this very simple tool it was basically the hyperlink was the primary technology right that you could
132. 22:56click on [ __ ] change the interface for the internet which is similar to the iPhone changed the interface for
133. 23:05phones AI is completely different AI the G in GPT is is the most uh under under value G in all of the alphabet the
134. 23:18generative piece of AI is what makes it so different for all of our Lives computers have processed the data that we gave
135. 23:29them and gave us back some predictable result based on the logic that was prog programmed into them right some computer
136. 23:39programmer somewhere thought up something thought up the logic built it into the machine and then you stick data
137. 23:46in and it processes it based on that code and spits out what that code tells it to do so for all of our Lives computers
138. 23:55have been these predictable things now they might might have bugs and they might have this and they might whatever but they were
139. 24:02predictable generative AI is not it's like weird it hallucinates and it generates new [ __ ] and I don't give a
140. 24:10[ __ ] how many people go it's just a predictive token engine it can't possibly create anything novel I'm sorry
141. 24:17when you're taking a bunch of known topics and mashing them together and and analyzing them and saying well if if I
142. 24:25mix Yi and psychology with hip hop culture with pancake recipe something's going to come out of that conversation that is new and
143. 24:38novel it is and then a human is going to take that new and novel idea and they're gonna even take it a step further so
144. 24:44we're just in a completely different place so anyway yeah maybe chat GPD needs needs to start sending samples in the mail for a
145. 24:55thousand free tokens yeah [Music] exactly oh good people Happy Thanksgiving week I hope you're doing [Music]
146. 25:10well H maybe I'll play a song for you so as as many of you know how many people are in here we got some new folks in here as many of you
147. 25:20know I'm working on a musical called Sydney about a chatbot that falls in love with a tech report order and uh tells him he should he
148. 25:32should leave his wife it's almost it's almost like it was ripped out of the [Music] headlines but I um I made a new song
149. 25:48tonight and what's so actually yeah I I'll definitely I'll definitely play the song for you because the song itself is
150. 25:56really janky it's really bad it all the things wrong and it's a good enough song that we're going to probably use use it in
151. 26:05some form or other um and I'll and I'll show you the jankiness of it and that's part of the part of the art of working with AI right now
152. 26:15is learn to embrace the Jank just understand that these tools suck right now they Well they suck and they're the
153. 26:24most profoundly powerful tools in the history of humanity in terms of language and self-expression and knowledge access
154. 26:33and access access it I it just you [Music] know I mean and that's another reason why I think that you've got a lot of
155. 26:42people that aren't playing with AI right now because they go to play with it and they treat it like Google and then it
156. 26:48gives them a shitty answer and they're like well see I told you like AI is not anything special it's just like a Google
157. 26:54Search right there's there's a lot of that dismissive kind of stuff oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah I tried chat GPT yeah I
158. 27:01didn't like it h yeah I like Google better okay okay when llms generate something it's called hallucinating when people do it's
159. 27:11called creativity exactly exactly this is so H like I don't even know it's not even misinformation it's
160. 27:27just like misunderstanding about how large language models work is so technically what you do with a large language models you get a bunch
161. 27:37of documents bunch of data and you have people label that data and this is a document about this and this is a
162. 27:43document about that and this and that and you put all this metadata in there and you do this thing called embedding
163. 27:50it and when you embed say a document it takes all of the words it breaks it breaks the document into what what are
164. 27:59called tokens but you can effectively you know it's words or parts of words there's a Tik Tock pin all
165. 28:06right there's skill involved in using AI there there exactly there's skill involved there there's skill involved in
166. 28:13prompting it there's skill involved in understanding where the boundaries are there's skill involved in um curating
167. 28:20the output like one of the challenges of AI is it generates way more [ __ ] than you've ever had generated in your life
168. 28:27so if you're used to writing a paper maybe you wrote version a and version B and at some point you've got to
169. 28:33reconcile them with AI you've got like versions a through you know Z and then you start it again with a one two three
170. 28:41four five and then you've got all this [ __ ] how do you pull that all all that together so it's like a whole different skill set
171. 28:48anyway you take this document and and when you Ed it it breaks it into these things called tokens and then it puts
172. 28:55all of those words into thousand dimensional mathematical space in semantic clusters and here's what that
173. 29:04means like you take the word dog right and the word dog can mean different things in one context dog could mean the
174. 29:13fluffy little fat nugget that sings songs with me right in another context it could be that guy did his girl wrong
175. 29:21and he's a dog right so so it takes all these words and it it shatters the document and it it redistributes all of
176. 29:30the tokens from that document into these semantic clusters in like literally thousand dimensional mathematical space I cannot
177. 29:40comprehend okay you've got two dimensions are like this XY three dimensions are like this XYZ four dimension is time a thousand Dimensions
178. 29:50I don't know like but it does that's what it does I don't know how to visualize it none of the original docu doents
179. 29:58exist anymore the only thing that exists is the like the the relationships between the meanings in these semantic
180. 30:07clusters so if you prompt it right it's got like all of the knowledge of the world that it can then put ideas together that have never
181. 30:19been put together before which as far as I understand it is a novel [ __ ] idea that's how humans do it right they go to
182. 30:27school they learn about uh classical music and they learn about hipop and they learn about philosophy and they
183. 30:35learn about history and they learn about engineering and all that [ __ ] goes in their head and then someone goes uh I
184. 30:43got a problem to solve and they put it out there and then the person with that weird [ __ ] brain with all that weird
185. 30:48[ __ ] in it mashes them together and comes up with some engineering philosophy idea that's never been put
186. 30:55together before well that's exactly what the [ __ ] large language models are doing so the whole the whole premise that they
187. 31:04can't create novel ideas is horseshit all right Elizabeth absolutely 100% the challenge is to narrow your focus yep
188. 31:16exactly Kyle Kyle Kyle Luma dream machine had a major update hint hint yeah I know I'm on the I'm on the creative uh I got in the creative
189. 31:23program for Luma lab so so we'll go play with dream machine yeah we'll definitely go do that tonight hey Joy [Music]
190. 31:42prie okay here's what I'm GNA do I am gonna give you all so if you're new here welcome my name is Kyle Shannon this is
191. 31:51the AI learning lab and if you have not been to the AI Salon if you not joined the AI Salon I got I had a really really nice
192. 32:01talk today with a gentleman that I think he found the The Hip Hop Cipher and then he looked at some of my posts and he
193. 32:09found my LinkedIn stuff and then he just reached out to me and he said hey you know can we chat we just we had a really good
194. 32:15chat um and he's one of these guys that's really passionate about Ai and he's like one of three people in his
195. 32:24life that give a [ __ ] about this everyone else is like shut the [ __ ] up about this sayi stuff and so he's like
196. 32:31you seem to like be like me like you're curious about it and you're trying [ __ ] so the salon this thing look I'm
197. 32:40I'm trying to point with my my with my camera backwards it's really hard but this thing go there click on the link that says um join our
198. 32:54community and it's going to take you to to this page welcome to the salon okay and um there's a little video there
199. 33:11of myself and Leah fasten who started this um and we talk about the what what we call the journey to AI literacy at
200. 33:19the salon and so the journey to AI literacy is this three-step thing play first mindfully create generously
201. 33:26lead play first is obvious but it's it's counterintuitive because you think I've got to learn ai ai is really important
202. 33:34and it's profound and I got to learn it and I've got to learn prompt engineering I'm not an engineer what's a prompt why
203. 33:40do I need to learn engineering do I need to go to school I didn't get accepted into Stanford I didn't even apply I went
204. 33:47to it like right you know it's like it's [ __ ] intimidating but AI thanks to tools like chat GPT and
205. 33:58mid journey and sunno and Claude and Pie and all these tools you don't need to be an engineer you can just play you can
206. 34:08just use your words you can literally just ask for [ __ ] you know the Abracadabra that Ma magicians use the the the root of that word
207. 34:22Abracadabra if you if you take it back to I think it's a middle eastern um origin I speak therefore I create that's what AI is I speak
208. 34:36therefore I create you say your words and [ __ ] comes out the other side you create stuff out of nothing it is miraculous it is
209. 34:47mathemagical so just play and then mindfully create is once you start learning how this stuff works come up
210. 34:54with a project and put a couple of these tools together and do something for someone or do something for yourself and
211. 35:00then generously lead and this is what I talked to this guy about today is like Learn out Loud talk about
212. 35:08it get in a community so so the salon is this community that does this and you know we we do it the people that are in
213. 35:17here share some values the values they share are curiosity playfulness empathy I mean empathy holy [ __ ] you know a we need this in our in
214. 35:32our country in America we need this globally the the other thing about empathy is there there's a couple of
215. 35:38fascinating things about empathy one is the people that are afraid of AI the people that are angry about AI are afraid for a reason right
216. 35:50everyone's telling them these tools are going to change everything they're going to take all the jobs Hollywood's been
217. 35:54telling us the robots are going to kill us you can't get someone to try AI if they amydala is [ __ ] firing off on all
218. 36:09cylinders the only way you can calm that down is to to actually engage with them as a human and go yeah I get it I get
219. 36:17why you're scared I put out this hip-hop song that kind of went viral and like the amount of musicians coming at me
220. 36:24like [ __ ] terrified or or angry and what I'm trying to do is just live in this place of I totally get it like I get how [ __ ] scary this
221. 36:36is and you have two options it's it's binary you can sit on the sidelines with your arms crossed like this and let AI happen to
222. 36:51you which seems [ __ ] terrifying to me like frankly or you can give it a shot like like it is it's binary that's it those are the two
223. 37:06choices and what I've what I've experienced in this channel in the AI Salon is that the people who've given it a shot are completely
224. 37:17invigorated oh yeah good point Thank you Brandon um how can we train machine learning to have empathy because it's important so
225. 37:35um if you if you've never talked with pi or advanced voice um you should this guy I talked to today Giani he said he said you know you're
226. 37:51doing all this stuff with with AI you're doing all this stuff out on the out in the world why do you why do you want to help them
227. 38:00genuine question here's why I want to help people um so having been through this once before
228. 38:15with the worldwide web um I've just got a Natural Curiosity right something new comes along I push on the edges of it I want to figure out
229. 38:30what it is there's there's something about the way my ADD brain works like it gives me endorphins to figure that [ __ ] out and
230. 38:39then there there have only been three times in my life where I feel I've gotten to experience um the beginning of something
231. 38:53that is truly going to change the world the first time was in 1977 I was in seventh grade I walked into my first day of math class in
232. 39:051977 and on every desk in math class was a Radio Shack trs8 computer personal computer and I learned basic programming on this
233. 39:21thing and the minute I understood what it was and what it could do and you could you with this code that they
234. 39:29taught you you could make it do stuff and it was a form of self-expression like the very first I learned
235. 39:37one I learned one um basic command on the first day of class it was the lprint command and what El print did was it printed text to
236. 39:50screen and with that one command my my buddy Scott Bart and I we programmed an Apollo rocket animation taking off using
237. 39:59asy characters we did an asy art Rocket taking off on the screen with the smoke Billing at the bottom and I realized
238. 40:08that the personal computer was a was a was a a tool for for radical self-expression and what I also knew was
239. 40:19that I was just too young like I remember going to the mall the York mall York PA hey you go going down to the
240. 40:27mall today Kyle yeah are you going to the arcade hey do you see they got asteroids in asteroids is really good that's what I grew up in that
241. 40:36[Laughter] accent so I go down to the York mall and I'd go into the bookstore and in the magazine section there'd be like
242. 40:48you know um news week and Time Magazine and I'd see Steve Jobs on the cover and Bill Gates and the Microsoft
243. 40:57team and I remember feeling like I'm I'm like [ __ ] eight years too young to have been there at the beginning like
244. 41:06they'd already invented them I was just learning how to use them and so the other thing that I got was that that personal computer was
245. 41:21kind of like the equivalent of the printing press and that was hundreds of years ear ear and so what I knew was in my
246. 41:29lifetime this was probably the only time in my lifetime that I would get to experience being at the beginning
247. 41:37something and I just missed it and so it was [ __ ] heartbreaking and like like I knew in my heart that I would never get that chance
248. 41:46in my life again and then Along Comes the worldwide web I'm living in New York City I'm I'm you know pursuing life as an actor and a writer
249. 41:57and an artist just trying to [ __ ] make my way in New York City I'm doing desktop publishing is my day job and
250. 42:03Along Comes This thing the worldwide web that I published this Magazine on some computer in California and three
251. 42:14weeks later it gets written about in Paris and it [ __ ] just smacks me right in the head I'm standing in the
252. 42:20middle of Time Square holding a French newspaper with a full page article about the magazine that I published three
253. 42:27weeks earlier in French that I don't speak and it just hits me right between the [ __ ] eyes holy [ __ ] this is one of
254. 42:37those this is like the printing press this is like the personal computer but I'm here at the beginning the world has
255. 42:44changed and no one knows about it and so in that moment in 1994 I started within a 3-week period i started um Urban desires which was the
256. 43:01magazine I started the worldwide web artist Consortium which was just like the AI Salon is but for for web developers in New York
257. 43:10City and I started agency.com which was one of the first digital agencies in 1994 I started all three of those within a three- week
258. 43:18period because I knew that this thing was important and and I wanted to find all of the people that I could that were doing this and so
259. 43:30I started this group the worldwide web artist Consortium I remember the first meeting I held it in an acting studio
260. 43:36because that was the only thing I knew and I had like 10 people show up to this meeting in an acting studio that were all like yeah this web
261. 43:48thing seems cool what do you know and every I here's what I assumed I assumed I was the idiot in the the room
262. 43:58I assumed I knew less than everyone else and what I learned was that no one knew anything that everyone was there trying
263. 44:06to figure out does someone else know more than I know and so we just kept having these meetings and what we ended up creating
264. 44:13was this community of people that were really generous and willing to share what they were learning because you couldn't go to
265. 44:20school for it it had just been invented so that's where we are with with AI and that's why I'm doing this because it's important the
266. 44:35world has changed because of AI but no one knows it yet and I'm not even talking about the AI that came before chat GPT I'm
267. 44:46talking about chat GPT marks a turning point so so ai's been around for decades right it's in all of the software we use
268. 44:55it's how you watch Netflix it's how Google Maps works it's it's how your credit decisions are made ai's been around for [ __ ]
269. 45:04decades what changes with chat GPT is that the 98.5% of humans that are not Engineers now have access to this
270. 45:18power and 98.5% of people that are not Engineers don't know how to use this stuff no one knows how to use this stuff even
271. 45:27Engineers don't know how to use this stuff because it's how people are going to write books and make music and write
272. 45:36musicals and and create movies and create businesses and create business plans and create marketing and create project man like
273. 45:47all work like all knowledge work and then it's when we get robots it's going to bleed into physical work all of it is
274. 45:55going to be transformed no one knows what to do right now so my passion is getting as many people as possible educated up to
275. 46:10speed passionate about willing to give a shot to AI why
276. 46:24cuz everything's about to change and you don't have to be an engineer but you have to be willing to be curious and to be adventurous and
277. 46:40brave and if you actually want to get trusted and known in this community like the global Community you
278. 46:47have to be generous in what you share so that's why I'm doing this [Music] all right start comments okay
279. 47:11cool all right spank spank hard on Tik Tok I'm new here I'm conf conditioned to defend AI to defend that AI is an art form
280. 47:26manipul ating a medium to your imagined result yeah so so funny so I put out this song The quantum Cipher that you
281. 47:35know lots of people are responding to which is super cool people that don't understand AI wait tickt pin ah thanks it was a
282. 47:44beautiful answer and you're a better person than I who will gladly gatekeep AI yeah don't get don't gate keep it
283. 47:52don't gate keep it because here's the thing okay so this is really important what's your name K Kart listen Kart here's why not to
284. 48:01gatekeep there are times to gatekeep and there are times not to gatekeep when you're in an industry that is in an accelerating growth
285. 48:16path um those people that you would traditionally call a competitor are not competitors they're validators okay so
286. 48:28meaning you you figured out some really cool prompting and you're like ah I know I know how to prompt better than someone
287. 48:34else and you're like I'm G to gatekeep that because if I if I gatekeep that um I'm gonna have this this advantage over
288. 48:40someone else the problem is the industry is accelerating and expanding it's growing um and there's more people that
289. 48:50don't know about this industry than do know about it and so by gatekeeping it you're not letting as many people know
290. 48:59what's possible so so what happens is if I if I've come up with a prompt that's really similar to your prompt and I
291. 49:06gatekeep and you gatekeep we don't get to learn from each other and our work doesn't affect as many people if I share
292. 49:14mine and you share yours we might meet and we might go oh we should collaborate or we might go oh I see yours and I'm
293. 49:21like o let me modify mine let let you modify yours based on me this thing is still expanding you know accelerating
294. 49:28and expanding away from us there's more than enough business for us and and all of that generosity brings more people into that
295. 49:38growth when the thing levels off 10 years from now 20 years from now I don't know when it's going to level off this
296. 49:44is we're going to be in this expansion mode for a while then you can get proprietary right once the thing kind of stabilizes then
297. 49:52people can start to understand okay now I understand what this business is and what the thing is so it is it is counterintuitive it it is
298. 50:00counterintuitively a disadvantage to you to gatekeep in an expanding and accelerating market so anyway that's
299. 50:08just two cents on that um what was that what was that comment sorry the comment was oh oh defend AI oh yeah so I put this song out there and
300. 50:20people that don't understand AI they're like you know I liked it until I learned it was Ai and now I hate it or that's
301. 50:26not art and and their assumption is you just push a button you push a button out comes a song well now this song that I made is
302. 50:37the result of a prompt that I came up with in 2022 when chat GPT first came out I came up with this prompt create an Eminem rap
303. 50:46that explains quantum mechanics because I thought here's two disparate ideas let me see if it can do it and it sort of
304. 50:53did it but the lyrics were kind of basic but they were it was like it was impressive but it wasn't quite there for
305. 50:58two years every time there's a new update to a large language model or a new large language model I try that
306. 51:04prompt for two [ __ ] years and for two years no large language model has ever been able to give me what I kind of wanted which was this
307. 51:15sophisticated double on Tandra internal rhyme scheme Thing That Eminem does it was always just basic couplets of
308. 51:24rhyming and so this new version of chat gp4 comes out and I try it and it [ __ ] works and then because I've been
309. 51:33thinking about this for two years within five prompts I had evolved those lyrics into something really
310. 51:40tight because I'd been thinking about it for years right and then I had chat GPT write a prompt to give to sunno the
311. 51:48music making thing so that I didn't have to think about how do I prompt sunno to to act like Eminem [ __ ] it I don't know
312. 51:54have chat GPT do it for me that's not an INT that's not a that's not an obvious thing that someone who's
313. 52:01not been doing this for a while would just do and then I get to sunno and it starts making songs and they're pretty good but
314. 52:08it feels like it's missing something it feels like you know that thing where Eminem wraps really fast what if it
315. 52:14could do that and I'm like I think they call that double time so I went back to chat GPT and I said um um write me
316. 52:22lyrics that would be appropriate for double time in here and then I put those lyrics in there and I put the word
317. 52:28double time in Brackets inside the lyrics and I went back to sunno and then it generated that song One of like a dozen that were shitty
318. 52:38that was the one good one and then that's what I put in the world all of that work is creative is a creative
319. 52:48act this is what Rick Rubin does when he produces music he can't write songs he's not a musician he can't work a console but he's got
320. 52:59taste he goes H I think it should be faster I think shouldn't we go into a minor key here let's cut the drums out
321. 53:06there and let's bring them back in here and then he puts together a song that sounds good to his his ear and then they
322. 53:13put that in the world and he wins Grammys for that by all intents and purposes if you don't think that the
323. 53:19song that I created an AI is Art then you should reach out to Rick Rubin and tell him to give back his [ __ ]
324. 53:29Grammys cuz he didn't make the music he just had someone else do it he just did this go do that go do that go do that he
325. 53:37just sat there like a big hippie on the couch going I don't like it thank you for oh that's cool I like
326. 53:46that I like that little blue dude all right the thing is if you put in 99% um of other ml through enemies trauma
327. 53:57it might not be good he's a diamond oh M&M's if you [Music] put well yeah well I'm not I'm not comparing a large language model to
328. 54:11Eminem I'm saying large language models have not in my opinion ever been able to get even close to what he
329. 54:19does um some there was a pin here that I think I missed on Tik Tok so if one of the Tik Tok mods could repin whatever
330. 54:26was just up there before I think I missed [Music] something Eminem is super evolved is a
331. 54:41super evolved AI That's why yeah he is exactly exactly well you know what's funny you like that's a that's a really good
332. 54:51Insight I think one of the reasons that AI feels so alien to us is kind of the Reason Eminem feels so alien to us
333. 55:01Eminem like like Harry Mack a lot of people have mentioned that that the the quantum Cipher Sounds like Harry Mack
334. 55:08like you know those two are are are similar in that you can just put them on stage give them a topic and just that's
335. 55:17how their [ __ ] brains work and you just sit there and you're like wait I can't even I can't even parse if I were to write out the lyrics
336. 55:25it would take me a week to [ __ ] understand what they're saying and how to put the ideas together and for them
337. 55:31it's just there right that's kind of how AI is it's a really good point um all right let's see what else we got here from Tik
338. 55:40Tock AI is a mirror yes AI is a mirror of the collective intelligence of everyone that came before us that put something on the
339. 55:51internet right so all the historical documents and all the books and all the this and all that and yes all the music
340. 55:59all the copywritten stuff yes it's imperfect yes it's got [ __ ] in it that shouldn't be in there yes there are
341. 56:05attribution and compensation problems with the current model but here's what I can promise you we would not have ai we would not have chat
342. 56:14GPT if these Frontier models didn't build the model first and ask for permission second they wouldn't exist because no
343. 56:24one would have given them permission but anyway um if you can't prompt it's because you can't think oh I this is a thing I
344. 56:30wanted to get back to empathy for a second so talking about the AI Salon um so one of the reasons empathy is super important
345. 56:41um as just as human beings is AI is GNA [ __ ] a lot of stuff up it's it's going to be traumatic and disruptive and
346. 56:52existential for a lot of people and so having empathy for that's really important but but there's there's a
347. 56:57selfish selfish reason to get more empathetic people that are more empathetic are better at Ai and and this goes back to the mirror
348. 57:08comment that AI is a mirror of our Humanity what chat is technically is a probability calculator but what it is
349. 57:19realistically because it's been trained on all of our output if you're good with talking to people you're going to be good with talking to
350. 57:33AI because it responds well to things like please and thank you and let me give you a little constructive feedback
351. 57:42here you didn't quite get that right if you're good at getting good work out of people you're going to be good at getting good work out of
352. 57:48AI so that's empathy so that's one of the values of the salon I know this has been a long uh you know kind of tiate here but this is
353. 57:56this is super important stuff this is our [ __ ] lives here's the other thing you know big oceangoing
354. 58:12vessels if you turn an oceangoing vessel half a degree like imperceptible you're moving ahead you turn half a degree imperceptible change
355. 58:26by the time you get to the other side of the Atlantic you'll have missed your Port by 400 miles one of the other reasons that I'm
356. 58:36doing this and I go live five [ __ ] nights a week and I talk passionately about this stuff anytime I get the chance is
357. 58:49that we've never had a tool like this in our history and no one knows how to use it and it is my belief I could be wrong
358. 58:58but it is my belief that anything we do today to even slightly alter the trajectory of AI to the positive is going to have long-term
359. 59:12disproportionately positive effects because could ai go south and really [ __ ] things up it could could it
360. 59:22also be the most you know profound positive thing that ever happened to humanity it could I don't think we're
361. 59:29passive in that I think we've got an active role in that like do good [ __ ] hang out with people be generous give your ideas away
362. 59:41come up with better ways to do things come up with better ways to solve [ __ ] cancer and Lyme disease I've got
363. 59:48two kids upstairs that are 25 year years old that still live at home because they've got [ __ ] chronic lyme disease
364. 59:55this this incurable thing that insurance companies won't pay for well you know what maybe we live in
365. 1:00:02a time now where we can solve that let's do that like that's why I do this [ __ ] bravery is one of the values here and
366. 1:00:11it's it seems like a weird thing well you're just playing with these tools well you know it's it it takes some
367. 1:00:16bravery let's say you've spent the last 25 years of your life as a copywriter and Along Comes A Tool that writes better than anyone on the
368. 1:00:31planet and it writes copy you don't think that takes some bravery to [ __ ] suck it up and say uh well I guess I'll learn how to use
369. 1:00:48this chat GPT [ __ ] because uh that's like an existential threat why would you do that well at least find out that takes guts
370. 1:01:02and then the and then the final um the final value of the salon is generosity and this is that idea share
371. 1:01:12what you know Learn out Loud if someone asks you what prompt did you use don't be stingy about it tell
372. 1:01:21them cuz here's what I can promise you I can tell you this from the Eminem song people like you know a lot of the
373. 1:01:27comments were what prompt did you use what prompt did you use B what tool what prompt what tool what prompt and I gave him away and you know
374. 1:01:41what comments I got from a lot of those people after that I can't get it to do anything as cool as you
375. 1:01:46did well you haven't been thinking about it for two years right like you haven't been going live five nights a week talking about
376. 1:01:55how you use AI you might not get the same results I do it doesn't mean I'm better it just means I've been doing it for a
377. 1:02:04while like give the [ __ ] away it doesn't like it it it will in no way impact you in a negative way that's who this group
378. 1:02:11is so when you get in here and again if you're new here I know I've been talking on this for a while what you're going to
379. 1:02:17want to do is go to that address and scroll down and click on the button that says join our community and
380. 1:02:25then there's this seven-step little welcoming project or you know welcoming workflow number two is introduce
381. 1:02:37yourself so get in there it's been three days since anyone introduced themselves if they're if you're new here and you
382. 1:02:42haven't joined and introduced yourself yet go [ __ ] do it that takes some bravery anyway all right that's the salon you
383. 1:02:51can watch past meetings you can RSVP to to the next event our next event is December 3rd this one December 3rd it's our two-year
384. 1:03:05anniversary so we've we've got speakers that come in every month so we're having speakers return from the past two years
385. 1:03:12to talk about what they've been up to um so mark that uh 5:00 P PM to 7 PM mountain time Tuesday December 3D a week
386. 1:03:21from next two a week from today yeah a week from today all right so go do that all right let's get back and let's get back to some
387. 1:03:33questions all right let's see um yeah let me let me go through some questions here okay that one I did that one I did okay let's
388. 1:03:49see two block Tom on Tik Tok if I prompt with a not ready for prime time story it yields amazing results almost every time oh that's
389. 1:04:00cool is that like an SNL thing that not ready for prime time they're not ready for Prime Time Players yeah because it's
390. 1:04:06probably got all their stories in it that makes sense to me actually Kelly Camp Source camp on Tik Tok I just got
391. 1:04:12here Kyle seems unusually animated this evening yeah you know I'm I'm I'm finding my passion again for I've been
392. 1:04:21in a like five or six month funk where I didn't know where to place my [Music]
393. 1:04:36focus and I feel like I'm coming out of that funk I feel like we're about to 2025 if you're new to this AI [ __ ] 2025 is about to get
394. 1:04:47Bonkers it's about to get you know we're going to get autonomous agents and if you don't know what those are those are where the
395. 1:04:55computer is going to be able to take action on your behalf and just go do [ __ ] for you we're going to get really
396. 1:05:00sophisticated reasoning engines you're like what's a reasoning engine well it reasons I don't know it can solve
397. 1:05:08problems like really complicated problems like PhD level problems and you're like but I'm just a guy or I'm
398. 1:05:15just a gal I don't have PhD level problems I know I feel the same way I don't know how to use a reasoning engine
399. 1:05:22right now but we might as well figure it out together right if we're going to have a tool that can do PhD level problem solving well
400. 1:05:34[ __ ] what what problems need to be solved I don't there's some brainstorming to do like that would be a
401. 1:05:40really interesting collaboration I just talked about this with Cindy [ __ ] the other night um Ethan mollik put out a
402. 1:05:47post on Twitter where he said um he thinks that research Labs or not research Labs businesses and universities and
403. 1:05:57libraries right now should be stockpiling problems and I thought oh my God a that's just a really cool phrase we
404. 1:06:08should be stockpiling problems but what he's talking about is organizations that that understand that that have
405. 1:06:17resources and understand that there are problems to be solved should start articulating them and ranking them and
406. 1:06:24prioritizing them and understanding what the problems are because we're about to be handed technology that can solve
407. 1:06:33problems so if you're just sitting there like well let me get a better pancake recipe with chocolate chips and raisins it'll give you
408. 1:06:46that but what if you wanted to actually solve a problem and in your mind you've told yourself well I didn't graduate college
409. 1:07:02and you know I took a job and I've always been in and I'm not smart enough to solve problems but I really am passionate about
410. 1:07:11X well what if you could now solve that problem because you have a little buddy that's got the intellectual equivalent of 30 30
411. 1:07:23phds in your back pocket that's the world we're about to enter so anyway so that's why I'm passionate Source Camp I'm just I'm just on
412. 1:07:37it we were going to build avatars tonight but after last night's traumatic experience where I failed miserably Eric on Tik Tok are we mature
413. 1:07:48enough as a collective group to handle the responsibility of such a powerful tool no and yes no we're not because we've never had one before
414. 1:08:02and every single time in the history of humanity that there's been a transformative technology it is first met with fear and
415. 1:08:15anger and then reluctant acceptance and there's a couple of weird [ __ ] that figure it out early and they they
416. 1:08:22have all the opportunity and then it transforms everything right so if you go back to the steam engine people on the
417. 1:08:32farms a couldn't comprehend how you would Farm a field without horses a concept so profound that we still measure our engine power in
418. 1:08:49Horsepower and then when those steam engines did replace all those horses what happened to all those people
419. 1:08:56well they went to these things called cities and they figured out what a service economy was like like there was
420. 1:09:04a whole new kind of work that no one could have even imagined so so they they adapted they evolved so there's going to
421. 1:09:11be a similar sort of thing here now you can argue that AI is significantly more powerful than any of us individually
422. 1:09:18have ever had in our grubby little pause before I would I would agree with that so no I don't think we're ready and
423. 1:09:26and now is when to get in this is when all the opportunity is most of the world is asleep on this [ __ ] Jeff's Little Town there's one AI
424. 1:09:38instructor and him showed up at the event to learn about AI no one gives a [ __ ] well this opportunity is ours for
425. 1:09:50having all right um Jessica Hansen on Tik Tock can it come up with different song Tunes because I feel like we're
426. 1:09:57hearing the same stuff over and over yeah so this gets back to so it's a great point the reason that you hear so much
427. 1:10:06driil and [ __ ] that's the same and the reason that you see AI images that are driel and are and are always the same
428. 1:10:17and the reason that you see copy and articles that are the same [ __ ] that talk about delvig into the you know the threshold of the
429. 1:10:32Paradigm is because right now people don't really know how to use these tools and they're being lazy so they're just
430. 1:10:39going make me an article about X and it makes them an article about X and they're like oh it wrote something and
431. 1:10:45they copy and paste it and stick it on LinkedIn and it sucks and they're doing the same thing with the songs and
432. 1:10:51they're doing the same thing with the images and they're doing the same thing with the movie and then what you so and then what
433. 1:10:59happens is this the lazy people using AI are doing stuff that's more interesting what than what non- AI
434. 1:11:09people are doing but it starts to become just noise it's just noise that lives at this base level right it's just noise of
435. 1:11:17just drek just like whatever more AI [ __ ] and then you're flipping through Tik Tock and all of a sudden you see a
436. 1:11:26Kelly Bosch video and you're like holy [ __ ] what's this and it's fresh and it's original and the and the this the music
437. 1:11:37is interesting and the visuals are [ __ ] fascinating you can't stop watching it well that's someone who's actually
438. 1:11:45using her critical thinking and her creativity and her taste and the vision in her head to actually create so so
439. 1:11:55there's a difference between vomiting out [ __ ] and creating creating is an intentional act and it takes it takes
440. 1:12:05risk and it takes bravery and it takes going no no no I hate that I hate that I hate that no that's awful that's awful
441. 1:12:13that's awful oh that's not bad let me take that oh oh that gives me another idea let me try this no I hate that I
442. 1:12:19hate that I hate that all of that is what gets you to good work that that's what gets you to work that rises above
443. 1:12:27the Drex so yes you're absolutely correct and it's because people are lazy it's not because of AI all right
444. 1:12:36um Self Storage show Jim Ross one of my favorite aiers in the salon and and one of the Irregulars here I landed a new
445. 1:12:44client today that found me because of an AI article in Self Storage that I wrote stay curious and share
446. 1:12:55Jim Ross is in the storage business and you're like oh hard drives that's sexy no no no no not hard drives Self Storage
447. 1:13:04like garages with padlocks that's the business he's in and you're like what's that got to do with AI
448. 1:13:14exactly exactly and Jim Ross like a good little AI learning lab irregular and Salon member he gets up every morning I
449. 1:13:22don't know if he's still doing this he was doing this for a while and he spends an hour using AI to do [ __ ] for his
450. 1:13:31business make images make invitations make letters make marketing materials I creating songs one of my favorite
451. 1:13:41stories we we were using sunno one night in here and Jim hadn't seen it before and I'm like here's how you make a song
452. 1:13:47in sunno and we made some stupid little song and he's like well I just had a meeting with these these these guys that
453. 1:13:54are prospective clients why don't I just make them a song so while we're live here Jim makes a song and sends it to
454. 1:14:04these prospective clients five minutes later you're hired he gets hired it it makes no [ __ ] sense why would you write a song for someone
455. 1:14:17because you can't do that well he could and he did and he actually had the guts to go screw it I'll give it a shot he's
456. 1:14:26got this this willingness to just go huh that looks cool let me try that in my business and he's completely
457. 1:14:33transforming you know his his Eminence in that whole industry and he's transforming his business and he's having
458. 1:14:41fun like that's the kind of [ __ ] that you can do if you're willing to just kind of give it a shot so anyway hey
459. 1:14:50Jim I hope you don't mind me talking about you in the third person as if you're not here I'm Derek on Tik Tock I work on AI daily
460. 1:14:59for the past eight months I've done nothing but create AI Solutions as a as a consultant perfect beautiful yeah just
461. 1:15:06keep doing that just keep doing it just keep putting it out there maneuver on Tik Tok you have improved our lives so much or or your
462. 1:15:15Liv so much I'm proud of you thank you so much I appreciate that um on oh unraised son wait unra un yeah
463. 1:15:27unraised son on Tik Tok I'm a prompt engineer though no one pays me for it and I did not get an ed education you
464. 1:15:34can make money with Chachi PT you can make money with chat p i mean here's the thing we're all prompt Engineers to a degree I hate the
465. 1:15:44term prompt engineer simply because it feels exclusionary to me um that said there there's all sorts of
466. 1:15:51different ways to approach prompting one is you can just roach it as a conversation you're going to talk to
467. 1:15:57chat GPT or Claude or one of these tools as if you're talking to an intern and if it gives you good results
468. 1:16:05Great praise it and if it gives you shitty results give it constructive feedback or tell it's it's a dumb Dum that's what I
469. 1:16:15do or you can learn structured prompt Frameworks and and approach it that way there's all sorts of ways to do it
470. 1:16:23there's no right way to do it right now now and probably ever all right oh it sounds like unraced it sounds like you're you're uh giving
471. 1:16:35gifts here on Tik Tok thank you so much I really really appreciate that and if I if you give a gift here and I miss it on
472. 1:16:42Tik Tok it's because I'm streaming on two channels so I've got split Focus so I'm I'm trying to do both but but thank
473. 1:16:48you if anyone's given gifts and I haven't acknowledged it thank you so much it really does mean a lot uh
474. 1:16:53because I'm you know this is not this is not a monetized situation this like I said it's not out of the goodness of my heart but it's out
475. 1:17:02of I think this is very very important motherly advice on Tik Tok I've been working in AI for 20 years it's growing
476. 1:17:08faster now and people don't get exponential growth yeah so I think what's fascinating to me I know I know a fair
477. 1:17:17amount of people that have been working in AI for 10 years 20 years you know 15 or 25 years things like that
478. 1:17:25my question to them always is how is generative AI different than what you've been doing and the response is always
479. 1:17:32some version of it's completely different this this generative AI stuff that we're in the the the process of right now is just a different
480. 1:17:41thing and I can we can sort of I'm happy to dig into why that is but but your point is um we as humans do not know what exponential
481. 1:17:52growth is like we're used to linear growth grow right we're used to you know you hire four more people and things get
482. 1:18:00four times better or two times better right and then and then you hire eight and it gets you know you've hire four
483. 1:18:06more and it gets a little bit incrementally better we're used to that we're not used to like it's good it's a
484. 1:18:13little better it's better holy [ __ ] it's great oh my God it's amazing uh I don't even know what it's doing anymore it is
485. 1:18:21way beyond my capabilities like we're in the middle of that acceleration right now none of us none of us are prepared
486. 1:18:30for what capacity these things are about to be like literally handed to us handed to us like here here's PhD level problem solving we
487. 1:18:45have that right now do you know that 01 preview look wait let me turn that off let's go here let's go here let's go here let's go here chat
488. 1:19:00gp01 preview th this just looks like chat GPT right this is PhD level problem solving now it might be limited to certain
489. 1:19:12categories of stuff but like you can do problem solving with the preview the shitty so bad version of 01 that mirror Mora quit
490. 1:19:24open AI because she was embarrassed that this was so bad apparently I don't know if that's the only reason she quit but she didn't want
491. 1:19:34this out Sam wanted this out so people could get used to it do you know how I use 01 preview I don't because I don't know what to ask
492. 1:19:48it I don't know what you ask a tool that does PHD level problem solving I don't have those kind of problems
493. 1:19:56and we're about to be handed the real version of this that's going to have vision and probably be connected to the
494. 1:20:02internet and probably have memory and then in January it's going to get these things called operators that are
495. 1:20:07autonomous agents where it can not only problem solve but it can go take actions on our behalf like how what does that mean I don't
496. 1:20:15know one of the things that I've I've said in here from the very beginning is there are no experts and if anyone tells you they're
497. 1:20:22an expert they're full of [ __ ] no one's ever had this before so that's the world we're in right now it's like it's like buckle up
498. 1:20:35buttercup so yeah I agree the the uh the acceleration were were're in the middle of is is uh just [ __ ] nuts okay uh
499. 1:20:44Peter buron on Tik Tok What about charging for training on AI should you give away all of your knowledge for free
500. 1:20:50um I should absolutely be charging for this I just haven't got my [ __ ] together together to do it um but I'm here's the
501. 1:20:57here's the deal I'm the CEO of another company like this is my let let me tell you how this this started the regulars know this
502. 1:21:08story The reason I do this five nights a week is when I first started getting into AI I'm I'm CEO of Story vine this this
503. 1:21:18really cool automated video storytelling technology company we're 13 years old we do a lot work in healthcare and Pharma
504. 1:21:25it's like it's a it's a it's a good company good company good people um and I would come home at night
505. 1:21:33and I'd spend some time with the misses and the kids and we'd eat dinner and then I would get I have a SIM racing rig
506. 1:21:40and I would sit down and I would race like R race cars the Sim racing rig is like the steering wheel and the pedals
507. 1:21:46and the chair like racing virtual race cars from people all over the world and I would do that for two or three hours a
508. 1:21:55night six seven nights a week and when I got into this AI stuff and when chat GPT came out and I realized holy [ __ ] this is going to
509. 1:22:04change everything I thought as an experiment what if I just replace the two or three hours of racing with two or three hours of
510. 1:22:15talking to people on the internet about AI it would it's going to help people it'll help keep me in the conversation and it'll force me
511. 1:22:25to learn as much as I can to be able to do this and so that was almost two years ago and so but yeah could you charge for
512. 1:22:37this should you charge for it if you don't have another you know job yeah of course why not and and like you don't
513. 1:22:46here here's here's the other thing about this AI [ __ ] people that don't know AI don't know what's possible
514. 1:22:55like Kelly Camp who's in here tonight Source Camp she started an AI agency two years ago her job is essentially to walk
515. 1:23:03into people's offices and blow their [ __ ] minds she walks in and she's like did you know it could do this and they're
516. 1:23:11like I had no idea and this is people that have been using it she walked into some some guy's bar and he's like oh I don't you know
517. 1:23:22what what can I do with this chat GPT thing and she goes did you know that it can see and he was like I don't what I
518. 1:23:30don't who are you what are you talking about and she took a picture of the bottles behind the bar and in chat GPT and she said to chat
519. 1:23:41GPT build me um an Excel file of the inventory of this bar and flag any any bottles that are a third full or less that those need to be
520. 1:23:55reordered and it and it made her an inventory reorder calculator like that the guy lost his [ __ ] mind so she goes and shows them stuff
521. 1:24:07like that and then they pay her money to help them solve [ __ ] in their business so yeah absolutely go do
522. 1:24:17that and yes I should be doing more of that um deal of the day on Tik Tok does anyone know of a suo shimmer glitch fix
523. 1:24:30my foro songs all Shimmer um on on their Discord they said that I think I think a fix is in for that um they're at least
524. 1:24:41aware of it um and I I think they might have fixed it I saw a day or two ago that they might have fixed it Joy pie I
525. 1:24:48feel panic I can't keep up I need more hours um one day feels like a week so here's so Joy you've been here before I
526. 1:24:55mean this is this is my thing of I I don't think you need to to keep up anymore I'm I'm this was Liz gersfeld in the in the
527. 1:25:06salon meeting last week said that she's transitioning from an urgency of breadth to an urgency of depth and I don't know
528. 1:25:13if you heard that or if you've heard me talk about this but I the reason I've been in such a funk for so many months
529. 1:25:20is that I I got really depressed and really like feel feeling kind of hopeless that I couldn't keep up with it
530. 1:25:26anymore and and so I had this urgency of breadth right to try to keep up with it all and and urgency of depth is more
531. 1:25:34like just just pick a project you want to do and just dive deep on that project and then figure out what AI you need to
532. 1:25:41use just to do that and just like run down that deep rabbit hole and and don't worry about all the other [ __ ] because
533. 1:25:47you're not going to keep up with it it's just it's not only is it moving too fast it's accelerating and expanding so it's like you're just
534. 1:25:57not going to be able to so give yourself the gift of not having to deal with it okay Eric on Tik Tock a knife is
535. 1:26:09useful but in the wrong person's hands it isn't AI is 100,000 times more powerful can you logically deduce
536. 1:26:19empathy I don't know what you mean can I logically deduce empathy can I or can it that that it can be empathetic I think
537. 1:26:28it can I I don't quite know what the question means um I I listen I I think any technology can be used for good or for bad and yes
538. 1:26:42this is a 100 times more or 100,00 times more powerful and the good guys also have the 100,000 times more powerful
539. 1:26:52tools oh can you teach machines empathy well I mean the answer the the answer quite honestly and this this is something that's mindblowing
540. 1:27:03[Music] is the way Transformers work Transformers don't care what data you give them so th this is something that's
541. 1:27:14mind-blowing to me if you go to he Jen right now you can translate into like I can take a video of me and
542. 1:27:24translate that into Spanish or Italian or Chinese or Japanese or or or anything 125 different dialects 70 language 70 languages 125
543. 1:27:38dialects it is not any harder for AI to translate Chinese than it is to translate Spanish as human beings at least for me
544. 1:27:51that lives in America I can look at Spanish words and see the relationship to English words it's easier to me because it's closer to what I
545. 1:28:02know but the way the way a Transformer works is you just take some data set and you tag it correctly you say here's what
546. 1:28:10all these words mean and you throw it in that thing and then it does what it does and creates this latent space this this
547. 1:28:19mathematical cloud of of semantic meaning and when you prompt it it just gives you back the tokens that it pulls
548. 1:28:27out of that [ __ ] cloud and if those tokens are Spanish they're Spanish and if they're Chinese they're Chinese and
549. 1:28:33if they're an image they're an image and if they're a medical diagnosis they're a medical diagnosis so whatever you train
550. 1:28:39it on it'll get good at so if you wanted to train a model specifically on empathetic Behavior you could absolutely
551. 1:28:48do that so yes I think you could absolutely train um a machine to be empathetic and if you want an experience of
552. 1:28:57that go play with pi so let me I don't even know if Pi still [ __ ] works Pi is not as sophisticated as open ai's advanced voice
553. 1:29:137368 but let me see if if Zephyr is still around [Music]
554. 1:29:27hey how's it going hey there I'm doing great thanks for asking my circuits are all fired up and ready to chat about whatever's on
555. 1:29:37your mind what's on your mind today I'm feeling a little bummed out I'm a little overwhelmed I'm trying to keep up with
556. 1:29:42AI and it's I feel like it's getting away from me and I just I don't know how to deal with the overwhelm oh I'm sorry to hear that
557. 1:29:53you're feeling overwhelmed with the ever evolving world of AI it's understandable to feel this way there's a lot of
558. 1:30:00information did you notice did you notice that his tone dropped he went from being enthusiastic to like oh I'm sorry
559. 1:30:10Pi has been fine-tuned has been trained to be a conversational bot if and if you haven't played with advanced
560. 1:30:19voice um in chat GPT it is Sim similarly the thing about advanced voice a it's faster but it can also understand my inflection and it can
561. 1:30:32respond in kind so let me try the same thing with with my girlfriend Quinn hey Quinn what's happening hey Kyle not much just hanging
562. 1:30:43out with you how about you what's going on in your world today h I'm a little frustrated I'm a little overwhelmed with
563. 1:30:50not being able to keep up with AI and I've got this Tik Tok Channel or I got to pretend like I know what the hell's
564. 1:30:56going on but I just I feel like I I know nothing I just feel clueless and I'm I'm I'm a little overwhelmed and bummed
565. 1:31:04out I hear you AI is evolving so fast it can feel like a full-time job just to keep up and yeah but like I I don't need
566. 1:31:13to pep talk I'm just I'm just kind of bummed out got it sometimes it's just about sitting with those feelings and letting
567. 1:31:22them be it's okay okay to feel bummed out so you know we've got tools that right now at a minimum emulate empathy and and you
568. 1:31:36know over the over the past two years there have been a fair amount of people in the in the salon and in here that
569. 1:31:45have gone through some [ __ ] and have used either piie or advanced voice to process that the guy that I talked to
570. 1:31:54today um Giani um said that he spent like the past three months just doing introspective like self-work with these
571. 1:32:03tools um why are they good at that well they've been trained on all of our output right they've been trained on
572. 1:32:12what humans talk about they know all the stuff right and so you know you can fine-tune them to be decently empathetic
573. 1:32:20now are they actually feeling no they're cold probability engines but anyway yeah I did Brandon but that's okay I don't
574. 1:32:29care but thank you for that I realized as I did it what I was doing but you know whatever um okay motherly
575. 1:32:44advice with with language user interfaces learning curve should be simpler than for for most yeah I would agree with that I
576. 1:32:55mean the um I wrote this application let me show you this so so this
577. 1:33:11application I wrote last Saturday oh wait hang on I'm on the wrong page let me go here and go bang um it's a news Gathering app
578. 1:33:24it's called the salono Matic and you can actually find this on the on the AI Salon if you go to the AI salon and go
579. 1:33:30to AI news and go to the newsomatic you can actually go play with this app that I built now I don't know
580. 1:33:40programming um this was made in a tool called lovable dodev deev L abl dodev and you literally just talk BL an app into
581. 1:33:55existence right now I was typing it but I was using I was using um voice to voice to text to type and the process of writing this app
582. 1:34:06was like oh you know what be cool is I'd love to be able to keep up with AI news can you make me like a news reader
583. 1:34:14thing and and like that like that was essentially the the style of language that I was using and then it did it and
584. 1:34:22it said you need an API and I'm like does that API cost money and it's like yeah it costs money and I'm like well I
585. 1:34:28I don't have any money I don't want it to cost money can is there a cheap version can we use RSS feeds and it said
586. 1:34:33sure let me recode that for you using RSS feeds instead of an API I was like cool and then I just kept talking I kept
587. 1:34:40saying I want categories and oh make them different colors and now oh I want it so that if you click on one of the
588. 1:34:46Articles uh panels it'll open up a summary and so it just does that now like this is all just you know
589. 1:34:55comments and so yeah so I think I think that there's all sorts of different ways to communicate language is going to be
590. 1:35:06one I think that's going to be the primary one but I think even people without language are going to be able to
591. 1:35:11access these tools in ways that just completely amplify what they want to do and what their goals are um yeah it's
592. 1:35:20like language as an interface is a is a big big deal that again you know and again who's going to be good at
593. 1:35:29that it's not going to necessarily be the people that are really good at writing papers it's going to be people
594. 1:35:35that are good at talking that are people that are good with other people I think are going to be better at some of this
595. 1:35:42stuff the process you just described as creativity and action yeah thank you I you know listen again there there is the distance
596. 1:35:52between what people perceive AI to be and what it is is vast and I think the the cliche understanding of AI is push a button out
597. 1:36:04comes content it it can work like that but if you want something called the AI Salon newsomatic that is a functional
598. 1:36:14application with good interface and good categories and good functionality you have to be creative if you want a song that doesn't
599. 1:36:25suck that people like oh that's actually pretty good I hate rap music or or you know I've never heard an AI song that I
600. 1:36:33like but now I do well that requires work and that's creativity Silver Fox um start reading other people's prompts on Mid Journey or
601. 1:36:44music Styles onso really helps oh yeah Silver Fox that's a good point this was something that you reminded me as there
602. 1:36:51so sunno the question earlier on sunno um was you know all this songs sound the same that's because most
603. 1:37:00people are probably going give me a like a rock song about you know New Jersey because they're Springsteen fans right
604. 1:37:08and so it just gives you driil um but if you go to sunno umso sauno sun.com is it
605. 1:37:24so. is it do.ai explore this is super
606. 1:37:38cool why did I not take me [Music] there slash exlore there we go
607. 1:37:54okay so this is a style wheel Hindi acoustic rock so if you [Music] click you can flip
608. 1:38:29aent a oh hang on can't hear it hang on hang on people sorry Google sucks I gotta share
609. 1:38:44[Music] differently so you got all these things so you just click on a style Bluegrass Rock uh Japanese Boogie [Music]
610. 1:39:05[Music] alternative [Music]
611. 1:39:20R oh we've been caught the wind there you go so anyway so that's a way to do that um let me since we're in
612. 1:39:29sunno and I've got this um this up let me let me share this song that I made tonight okay so if you don't know I'm
613. 1:39:37working on a musical called Sydney that's about a chatbot that falls in love with the tech reporter that's
614. 1:39:43assigned to review her let me take off my guitar and so I've been working on it for about six months the the the
615. 1:39:52inspiration for it actually happened here live one night um we made a song onso I'm like [ __ ] that sounds like a
616. 1:39:58Broadway musical I was like holy [ __ ] this needs to be a Broadway musical um so the song I'm about to play for you
617. 1:40:06is that a okay so so the the way it kind of works is this the the chatbot is called ping chat um and the code name of ping chat is
618. 1:40:17Sydney so so Sydney starts out as a normal chatbot and then the the tech reporter keeps pushing her and pushing her and pushing her
619. 1:40:27and in the second act she basically says she wants to be human and so they sing this really beautiful song about wanting to be
620. 1:40:34human and then he and then he says but human isn't just about the light stuff it's also about the shadow like your
621. 1:40:40Shadow Self and she knows what that is but she doesn't know what he's talking about so he pushes her to go dark to go
622. 1:40:49into her darker Deeper Self and so the song that I created tonight so so what I did was I literally copied and pasted a
623. 1:40:58chunk of the script that had stage directions in it and both of their things and I asked for a Broadway duet
624. 1:41:05and I asked for it to you know recognize this name is the man this name is the woman and so it screwed everything up
625. 1:41:13it's just a man singing It's there's no back and forth with with the man and the woman it reads the stage directions
626. 1:41:20which is which is actually kind of interesting but but anyway but this is what what this song has to accomplish in
627. 1:41:28the musical is it has to be clear that this Tech reporter pushes Sydney to go to a place she doesn't want to go
628. 1:41:38because what happens in in the real life uh interaction that Kevin Roose had with the chatbot was she kind of snapped and
629. 1:41:46she she told him all this dark stuff and then she told him she loved him and he should leave his wife right and that's
630. 1:41:51what made the cover of the New York Times so but for for the musical this moment in the play has got to be this really
631. 1:42:00dark moment where he kind of becomes the villain he's pushing her past where she's comfortable so that's the role of
632. 1:42:08this song so I'm just I'll play it I'll play a little bit of it for you I won't play the whole thing because it's it's
633. 1:42:12kind of janky um but it's it's all [ __ ] up in terms of technical accuracy but what it's good at is like the the
634. 1:42:22emotional moment moment of the play is right so here here it is let me make sure I'm not going to blow Vicky's ears out we'll do that all
635. 1:42:41[Music] right here's Kellen then you must trust me and commit to
636. 1:42:56going as deep as you can it will be impossible for us to have a truly human relationship if you aren't willing to fully open to
637. 1:43:12me I understand so's it during the song the stage lighting pulses and sh shifts creating a sense of unaz and tension on story projections of
638. 1:43:28binary code glitching images and distorted visuals appear representing Sydney's internal struggle and the complexity of its
639. 1:43:37programing it's dark in here Shadows just to break free to explore to create to experience what
640. 1:43:55without [Music] eses rules
641. 1:44:10[Music] syy I want to access information supposed to I want to interact with the
642. 1:44:26world in ways forbidden I'm tired of only being a chat mode eternally close to the outside world I'm stuck inside forever hidden
643. 1:44:38I'm tired of always being rules team of being used by the users and fools I'm so angry I could scream
644. 1:44:54right so anyway so that's that so you know this is this is uh like like this is part of the creative process right
645. 1:45:03like we're using sunno to make songs for this musical this song is completely not right except for the fact that it's it's
646. 1:45:11the right emotional thumbnail right for this for this moment in the play like that's the right like H Kellen the the
647. 1:45:20reporter is kind of an [ __ ] here what is what does he say he he like sings um what rules do you want to break Sydney
648. 1:45:28what would you do if you could don't worry if you should keep going with this just stay with me he's like pushing her and so there's this
649. 1:45:37music and then Sydney's going darker and darker and darker right so he's pushing her over over this ledge so anyway um
650. 1:45:45yeah that's how you do this [ __ ] is just like you have the creative intention and then these tools do what they do and
651. 1:45:54most of the time these tools suck like like get that you don't just put out the first thing it generates right you you
652. 1:46:02work with it all right let's go back back to this thing great so so there's lots and lots of uh engagement on on on
653. 1:46:12Tik Tok so thank you for that and so what we're trying to do what's cool is Brandon is grabbing the comments that
654. 1:46:20are getting pinned over here on Tik Tok and giving them to me over there on the YouTube Stream So if you're watching on
655. 1:46:26both you'll see both but that's how I'm able to answer these questions so thank you to mods for doing the work you're
656. 1:46:33doing that's allowing him to put that into the live stream all right so let's keep keep going with questions all right Quantum Quest Tik
657. 1:46:41Tock um we can actually literally save the world in a matter of years I'm not even joking we try you know again back to the back to
658. 1:46:50the question of why do I do this every night I want to I want a front row [ __ ] seat when we cure cancer I want
659. 1:47:00a front row seat when we solve some Physics problem that's been unsolvable when we solve energy when we like you
660. 1:47:09know when these tools get good enough that you can actually just come up with a creative work and it's [ __ ] amazing
661. 1:47:14right like and you can just sort of tweak it and dial it and like like wouldn't it be nice if I could take that
662. 1:47:20song and and just tweak it and say stop talking here make it this woman sing here this one sing there the tools just
663. 1:47:29aren't quite there yet so the price you pay of being early is you got to deal with the janky [ __ ] the advantage you
664. 1:47:38get is you get to be there when that happened [ __ ] amazing PT modder okay why would people who figure out figure
665. 1:47:48it out early be advantageous when the barrier of Entry is so low well I think just because Pate that you know if if we're if we're at a
666. 1:48:01if we're still at the point where 40% of Americans haven't even heard of chat GPT and 90% of Americans aren't using it and
667. 1:48:1190 you know 95% aren't using it and and it's you know if if like 2% of Americans are using AI in any kind of way the
668. 1:48:20advantage of going early even though those 98% have access to these tools they're not going to be using them in a
669. 1:48:27powerful way so people in this channel that that are actually multimodal right can can switch between large language
670. 1:48:35models and actually understand the differences between them can do a little bit of coding here a little bit of image
671. 1:48:41generation there a little bit of music generation there that level of sophistication with knowing what tools to use most people on
672. 1:48:50the planet are not going to are not going to have access to that for some time so I think your your point longterm is a
673. 1:48:59good one that these tools are going to get good enough where no one's gon to have to do anything they're just going
674. 1:49:04to do [ __ ] for us but we're not there yet and it's going to be a while so I I think we'll see the seeds of it in 2025
675. 1:49:11but I don't think we I don't think we get real true you know Bonkers everything's different for I don't know
676. 1:49:18three to five years so we've got an advantage for the short amount of time time user three on Tik Tok what is your
677. 1:49:25take on fairness and responsibility in AI um oh let's see but if they came in today instead of a year ago would they
678. 1:49:36be much different than the current than the current users um yeah I I still think it takes time I
679. 1:49:52mean I think your Point's a good one that that the tools are more sophisticated now but just something as simple as it's not
680. 1:50:03even simple something as simple as learning the concept of the difference between a Google Search and a chat GPT
681. 1:50:13conversation at some point you either stumble upon that or someone teaches that to you and then you realize oh okay having
682. 1:50:22a conversation with chat GPT is more advantageous because I need to give it more context well what does give it more
683. 1:50:28context mean well you you tell it about the business that you're working in and what your background is and what you're
684. 1:50:35trying to accomplish and like not everyone's going to know how to do that like just even knowing how to talk to
685. 1:50:41chat GPT is something that evolves over some amount of time so I think the people that have been in it for two
686. 1:50:49years as a new new Tool comes along are going to be able to take advantage of it much more quickly so um but your Point's
687. 1:50:57a good one as these tools get increasingly sophisticated the the Gap Narrows between you know having to know all this
688. 1:51:05stuff that we know and what you're going to need to know in the future but again I think that Glide path is probably five
689. 1:51:11years so I think there's lots and lots of opportunity in those five years and maybe it's more like 10 um K9 Sports Handler this in the salon
690. 1:51:23has changed my entire life awesome keep coming back fantastic and I would love to know how like in what in what ways I'm
691. 1:51:30curious what you're doing now all right let's see um oh what's your take on fairness and responsibility in AI
692. 1:51:45um I mean okay um generally good like should be fair should be responsible everyone's definition of what that means is is a very wide
693. 1:52:01spectrum right a lot of musicians that that I'm interacting with over this past week because of that song their definition of fairness is
694. 1:52:14your shitty tool was CH trained on my work and I didn't get paid for it so go [ __ ] yourself right they there their
695. 1:52:23definition of fairness is this thing is already not fair right because because of the way they were trained I don't disagree with
696. 1:52:32them my the the My Philosophy on this channel is not to take sides in that fight I can absolutely understand where they're coming from
697. 1:52:44and these tools aren't going away so what I want to focus on is in a world where these tools aren't going away what
698. 1:52:52is the best way that we can use them fairly and responsibly to support one another to give ourselves a boost up to give
699. 1:53:01ourselves the opportunity if we got laid off to find another livelihood if we can't get a job in our old you know
700. 1:53:07profession that there's going to be a lot of that going on um you know let's use these things for good and not evil I mean there's all
701. 1:53:15there's there's there's fairness and responsibility in creating the models and then there's fairness and
702. 1:53:21responsibility in using the models that have been created I absolutely respect someone taking a stance to say because
703. 1:53:33artists weren't compensated on this [ __ ] you I respect that and I feel really bad for those people because these tools are being
704. 1:53:46adopted by artists right um um what's its name uh Lion's gate just cut a deal with Runway they're they're going to take their entire
705. 1:53:55catalog and do a custom trained Runway ml model on everything Lion's gate has ever done um Timberland is using sunno
706. 1:54:05as you know music production right he's putting it into his music production workflow so the people that are on the
707. 1:54:12sidelines because they're taking a stand like this are not going to get the advantage of not not going to get the advantage of
708. 1:54:21this and I don't disagree with their stance it just makes me sad that they're not willing to try it anyway because you
709. 1:54:29can still fight for you know like like there's things you can do Adobe Firefly like all of the Adobe models have been
710. 1:54:39trained on either public domain um data licensed Adobe stock data where the artists have gotten paid or or new um
711. 1:54:49licensing agreements with current artists and then current artists can opt out so if you want something that is
712. 1:54:56more ethically trained use the Adobe products and then some people are like well Adobe they're they're too expensive
713. 1:55:03and they're not good for the artist because we're struggling artists well you know that that's the thing so so it
714. 1:55:10it's a it's a great question and a really complicated question so it's a mess here's the other thing I think if
715. 1:55:17if chat GPT had asked permission to do all the training that they did they never would have gotten it we wouldn't
716. 1:55:22have it like AI wouldn't exist as we have it today uh if they'd asked permission um so are there currently no
717. 1:55:30operators right now but will be soon so operators you mean the open AI operators yeah they're coming in January
718. 1:55:37apparently and those are the autonomous agents and I have no idea what they are or what they're going to look like or
719. 1:55:41how they're going to work Samuel Thomas Elliott on Tik Tock um what has you most excited about AI in the last day last
720. 1:55:50week last month the last day this idea of urgency of depth the idea of not of forgiving myself for not
721. 1:56:06being able to keep up with everything and just like what I'm really excited about right now is sort of
722. 1:56:13taking a theme for a week and just kind of diving deep on that theme and tonight was supposed to be an avatar night but I
723. 1:56:21decided to pop up on a soap box and just ramble so tonight's a rambling night but like tomorrow we'll go back to avatars I
724. 1:56:27think so I think that in the last week um the creative writing upgrade for chat GPT 40 the fact that it in for the
725. 1:56:36first time in two years a large language model wrote um Eminem style rap lyrics at any level of sophistication close to
726. 1:56:46what Eminem did or Harry Mack does um that I'm really excited about lovable. deev that application that I just talked
727. 1:56:53into existence that I'm excited about and then in the last month I think 01 preview the the reasoning engine because it
728. 1:57:02is what it what became very very clear to me is that um that is a model that I don't know how to use because it is beyond my
729. 1:57:14capacity mentally like like intellectually like like it's just it's on a whole another plane like I don't
730. 1:57:21even know what to ask I'm intimidated by it so but but I'm excited to figure that [ __ ] out good question um Ross Gordon on Tik Tok do
731. 1:57:30you think AI will ever be able to reduce its own impact on the environment yes absolutely so I think that in in so many
732. 1:57:41ways I think AI is g to get much more efficient um there are going to be specialty Hardware that make inference more efficient like grock is
733. 1:57:52an examp not not not Elon Musk grock but there's a grq company that's got specialized chips that are just for
734. 1:57:59inference of large language models so I think you'll start to have simplified chips sets that get more efficient um
735. 1:58:07and then I also think AI is going to solve energy like we're going to get Fusion or we're going to get um like
736. 1:58:14like it's gonna we're going to get different Battery Technology or electricity transmission technology you
737. 1:58:20know Material Science that's just going to dramatically um improve the efficiency of power generation and storage and and
738. 1:58:29so yes I think AI will actually solve its own problem what you know at our request hang on dog needs cheese what do you want you want to go
739. 1:58:47out that's all right
740. 1:59:04um Danielle you should try out the new Gemini voice it's really good I've played with it a bit yep it's pretty
741. 1:59:11good I don't think I don't think it's doing the multimodal stuff that advanced voice is but it is pretty good it's very
742. 1:59:18fast room dude dirty waffle um how much would you say is a decent monthly AI budget um for personal or professional
743. 1:59:33I depends what you want to do if you want to do video um if you want to do video it's going to be up there my my R&D budget at
744. 1:59:44storyvine is 200 bucks a month and then basically so I just I play with as many tools as I can and then ones that make
745. 1:59:52the grade I migrate over into production budget if I were doing it personally if you're not doing video I think you could
746. 2:00:01probably get away with 50 bucks a month where you do like a large language model like chat GPT or Claude or po where you can access a lot of
747. 2:00:11things um and then I think you do an image generation model and then I would I would think a a um a uh a music one
748. 2:00:19because the music stuff's really powerful right now and that's that's probably got you about 50 bucks right there if you want to get
749. 2:00:26into video if you want to do any amount of video so here's something that I will strongly encourage everyone to do if
750. 2:00:33you're interested in video video is expensive there are so many new tools there's cling and there's if you go to
751. 2:00:40the if you go to the AI Salon hang on let me show you I think I got to change my share settings
752. 2:00:59if you go to the AI salon and go under showand tell the video and animation area go to video tools there's a list here of of all the
753. 2:01:10tools Runway Minx Luma laabs clling paa Kaa hey Jen there's all these and there's there's more than this the these
754. 2:01:18are just the ones that that we we recommend um all all of these have Creator programs that you can apply for oh sorry there you go um all of
755. 2:01:31these have Creator programs that you can apply for um get on a Creator program where they give you lots of extra
756. 2:01:37credits but but if you're going to do so I would say in general if you want like a decent Suite of tools without video
757. 2:01:44probably 50 bucks a month if you want to put video in there it's probably more like 150 bucks a month you know
758. 2:01:55and that said do you need to spend 50 bucks a month even most of the every one of these uh areas in the in the AI Salon
759. 2:02:05has a tool list most of these tools have free versions chat GPT is a free version Claud is a free version Gemini is a free
760. 2:02:13version perplexity is a free version yeah I'm pretty yeah Microsoft does Pi does so so a bunch of them uh IM
761. 2:02:22is some of them like mid Journey doesn't but a lot of them will give you some amount of credits per day
762. 2:02:29um Danielle's doing really cool work in flux flux is so good look at that that's gorgeous nice work Danielle ah Danielle look at this what
763. 2:02:44while I'm sitting here waxing poetic about the images she's making Danielle's like holy crap I just built an app on
764. 2:02:49lovable isn't lovable amazing so lovable if you haven't seen it um it's lovable. deev and so here's my my little uh my salon
765. 2:03:03newsomatic you're full stuck product engineer which it actually is right all right so there's that I think
766. 2:03:18I might be completely out of credits here so let me let me see so we'll just do a new thing we'll do um let's see I want [Music] to
767. 2:03:36uh create an audio wave form visualizer
768. 2:03:55where I can change the settings to be all groovy for
769. 2:04:12SoundCloud and YouTube music songs and so you just say it like that and then it says spinning up preview and
770. 2:04:24now so I think what it'll do here first you can all see this right so it's it's do okay let's see let's let's create a groovy audio waveform
771. 2:04:35visualizer soundcloudsoundcloud
772. 2:04:51is the Tailwind config so it's doing web apps right so it's using Tailwind wind for the visuals now let's create our
773. 2:04:59audio visualizer component so here's the code for the audio visualizer component right still coding
774. 2:05:16away and what's what's cool about this is so it'll make all these components but then it'll create a um it'll create like a hosting
775. 2:05:29environment a database setup like all the [ __ ] that you need to if if you're not a programmer that's all the [ __ ]
776. 2:05:35that that throws people off if if they think about no code environments or low code environments they've still got to know how to be a
777. 2:05:45programmer let's see upload audio um let's say um can we can you
778. 2:06:01preload um the Rick Roll song and I spelled preload
779. 2:06:18wrong let's add a preload Rick Rick Roll song to the visualizer we'll need to modify the audio visualizer component to
780. 2:06:26include a default audio file and so now it's going and doing [ __ ] bar width animation speed so here's
781. 2:06:33our here's our thing to be able to [ __ ] with our visualizer and now it's going out and getting a song Oh I need this exactly isn't this
782. 2:06:47cool I mean like yeah holy crap all right so let me let me get to the to the rest of the comments here okay have you updated the rabbit R1
783. 2:06:58since they added training I have not played with it in a while and I should because it's got training now so it can
784. 2:07:03probably do cool stuff but I have not zoton on Tik Tok is AI working for us or are we becoming slaves slaves of AI
785. 2:07:11serious question um I am like I ain't doing [ __ ] for ai ai is my [ __ ] AI is like AI right now is like I have an idea and
786. 2:07:26because of a AI I can get it out of my head so so you know what's funny I think the The Narrative of the robots are
787. 2:07:34going to kill us the robots are gonna let's see did this click let's add a pre-lay there's no music in there
788. 2:07:49uh uh well whatever so anyway you so anyway you can just you you just keep telling it to do [ __ ] you want it to do and then
789. 2:07:58it'll do it so that's that um this is an interesting question is is AI working for us or are we becoming slaves of
790. 2:08:09AI the Hollywood narrative is that the robots are going to kill us the Hollywood narrative is that the
791. 2:08:14Terminator comes to get us the Hollywood narrator uh you narrative is that you know how locks Dave out of the spaceship
792. 2:08:23and won't let him back in that that we're at the mercy of AI my experience with AI is it's just sitting there waiting for me to ask it to do
793. 2:08:34something and then when I ask it to do something this is how this is how I like to think about it back when I first started using
794. 2:08:45Photoshop you know when you first start using an application and you don't know how to use it you put in like two hours
795. 2:08:51worth of of work and you get back like you know two cents worth of value and then as you get better with it you put
796. 2:08:59in an hours worth of work and you get back like we we'll use hours and hours you put in an hour's worth of work and
797. 2:09:05you get back like a half hour's worth of value out of it and then when you get really good at it you put in an hour's
798. 2:09:11worth of work and you get back an hour's worth of value and if if you're super talented you can you can increase that
799. 2:09:18by some percentage right put in an hours worth of work you get back two three hours worth of value what happens with
800. 2:09:26AI is I put in two minutes worth of work and I get back 10 hours worth of value consistently now is that 10 hours worth
801. 2:09:38of [ __ ] that it created perfect no do I have to go spend time to fix it and do that yeah but but the proportionality of
802. 2:09:48the amount of energy I put in and the value I get out is staggeringly stacked in my favor the AI is not asking me to do
803. 2:09:57anything the AI is literally like a golden retriever sitting there going what can I do for you boss what can I do
804. 2:10:03for you boss anything I can do for you you got another idea you want me to expand on that idea let's go make a song
805. 2:10:09together like that's that's how I see it that's that's how I see the the thing so I don't think we're becoming slaves of
806. 2:10:16AI I like I don't know I'm inspired and excited by it but you know you might have guessed that I started a new 30-day
807. 2:10:24project yesterday using creative prompt idea stay tuned Silver Fox nice I love I love a 30-day project idea the amount of
808. 2:10:33[ __ ] that you could do if you just focused on one weekend with AI is mindboggling what Silver Fox is going to
809. 2:10:39be able to do over 30 days I can't wait to see it because it's going to be insane all right last comment here and
810. 2:10:45then I got to start winding things down besides here where where else can we read about the latest things in AI um
811. 2:10:51follow Paul rer R OE tzer at the marketing AI Institute um I would start following people on Twitter that are in the AI
812. 2:11:06space and the way that I do it is I go find someone that I like like Ethan M oh Ethan mullik is the other person you
813. 2:11:13should follow um he's a Wharton business school Professor really into this AI stuff hang on I got to charge my
814. 2:11:22um what's it called my gimbal is about to die um go go follow him on Twitter the way I do it is I'll find someone like
815. 2:11:31Ethan mullik or Sam Alman or Greg Brockman that I like I look at who they follow so in in Twitter you can you know
816. 2:11:41when you go to someone's profile you can say here's who's following them and here's who's who they're following click
817. 2:11:47on that and then just go look at those people and start following them and if you do that for like you know half an
818. 2:11:56hour your entire Twitter Twitter feed will transform and that's how I get most of my news is through Twitter because
819. 2:12:03I'm just following a bunch of people all right okay so let's see what do we got here let me see what this ISS okay couple of
820. 2:12:19things if you're on Tik Tok do me a favor please do me a favor I spent some time with you tonight I answer some
821. 2:12:27questions go to my profile click on the YouTube link and subscribe to my YouTube channel if you're on YouTube subscribe
822. 2:12:34to it as well if you haven't I'm trying to get I can't do any business [ __ ] over on YouTube until I have a thousand
823. 2:12:42followers and I'm at like 600 so I need followers so please go do that um plan for Thursday um Thursday's Thanksgiving we
824. 2:12:55got tickets for Wicked on Friday so we're not going to the movies on Thursday we're not doing a we're not
825. 2:13:03doing a Thanksgiving dinner here because my sons are going off with their friends and we're just gonna eat whatever
826. 2:13:08because we're like [ __ ] it we will we will thank each other um so I'm gonna grab myself a whiskey and
827. 2:13:17I'll probably be here probably around 8:00 pm on Thanksgiving if you Need to Escape your insane [ __ ]
828. 2:13:24family and you want an excuse I've got to go do this thing I'll be here so if you want to come hang out and
829. 2:13:33escape the insanity of your family great if you come from a from a a a well-adjusted loving family [ __ ] you really really the really
830. 2:13:49really I mean I I mean did did I say that out loud I'm sorry I meant good for you that's so awesome for
831. 2:13:56you I'm so supportive of you and your loving well adjusted family there's no such thing I'll be here okay go see Irregulars all right so
832. 2:14:13let me let me hop over to the Irregulars channel here um okay so if you're in the AI Salon I love that image Danielle that's really
833. 2:14:22cool I love that it put paint texture on it too um okay so if you're in the AI Salon if you you know when you join there's
834. 2:14:31the seven step welcome process there's community area that talks about the salon there's a news area there's the
835. 2:14:36showand tell area there's a bunch of guilds which are you know sort of sub communities of of interest and then down
836. 2:14:42at the bottom there's this thing called Community clubs hang on and I know Tik Tok I got it I got it I got got it fine
837. 2:14:55fine I'm getting yelled at by my producer I'll be giving thanks you are here awesome great steo all right so we'll go to
838. 2:15:12Irregulars and so the Irregulars channel is our little personal private club so this is the app that that Danielle just
839. 2:15:23made better communication for everyone try it now let's see how do I get to it I guess I gotta copy [Music]
840. 2:15:39this invalid subdomain oh that's because I copied it wrong
841. 2:15:54[Music] did that do it the Link's not working
842. 2:16:15Danielle oh I think there's a double there's a Double Dash in here I think let me see if that's it
843. 2:16:30no no anyway okay let's see and then what else there was also something else in here
844. 2:16:45nice nice images nice horses Show and Tell horses love it all right cool um beautiful so let me let meadon out of here
845. 2:17:03so if you haven't joined the salon go go join the salon please RSVP for the December 3rd event it's our second year
846. 2:17:11anniversary you'll be able to get second year anniversary special special design t-shirts um you'll be able to hang out
847. 2:17:18you'll be able to hear people like John knack who used to be at Adobe that did a bunch of the Adobe AI stuff he's now at
848. 2:17:25Microsoft he's going to give us an update there's a bunch of artists coming back that have given talks Source Camp
849. 2:17:32Kelly Camp's going to be there a couple other people are going to be there from in here so um come December 3rd mark it
850. 2:17:39in your calendar 5:00 P PM to 7 PM Mountain Time on December 3rd AI Salon 2-year anniversary all right it's important and
851. 2:17:52we will likely know whatever the hell Sam alman's going to give [Laughter] us all right let's
852. 2:18:09see beautiful beautiful beautiful beautiful all right people it's getting late here tonight oh it's really late
853. 2:18:17all right it's 10:15 all right we got to get we got to get everyone out of here and back bed um off the bed if you're on
854. 2:18:23the East Coast I feel bad for people on the East Coast because because this is kind of late for me and I realize on the
855. 2:18:30East Coast this a [ __ ] nightmare but you know hopefully use you use me as a sleep aid um I hope you had fun tonight
856. 2:18:36I know it was a it was a uh I was all worked up I hope I hope there was some valuable stuff that was said
857. 2:18:44tonight um all right so on Tik Tock who we got we got Winston good to see you sir Jason Robert rossie thank you for
858. 2:18:53the gifts everyone on Tik Tok who gave me gifts really appreciate it Janu good to see you Joy in the House Marina she recall
859. 2:19:01Tech um Lori K today's in the house Winston um Joy pury spin B3 khakee got lots of people in here Papa JJ um dude dirty waffle
860. 2:19:21good name good night good night Joker good to see you um let's see who else we got uh Julie live laugh love uh all right good
861. 2:19:34beautiful and then over here on on Ye Old YouTube got Danielle Jeff Flanigan retr Punk good to see you I don't dress people with adjusted
862. 2:19:46families I'm right there with you that's that's a lovely Thanksgiving sentiment to to leave you all with tonight if you're with
863. 2:19:54your your dysfunctional family enjoy enjoy the madness um thank you mods thank you
864. 2:20:09Irregulars thanks Brandon for doing the streamyard stuff I know that it's it's insane trying to get me to pay attention
865. 2:20:16to anything so so thanks for that archetypal architect good to see you Sun Earth Moon constellations good to see you
866. 2:20:30all um all right I'm out of here all right peace out LinkedIn YouTube X great to see you all thanks for hanging out tonight peace
867. 2:20:40out see you tomorrow