AI Readiness Project

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1. 0:09forget trying to keep up with AI it's moving too fast it's time to think differently about it welcome to the AI
2. 0:15Readiness project hosted by Kyle Shannon and Anne Murphy here to help you build the mindset that thrive in an AI driven
3. 0:21world and prepare for what's [Music] coming boom did it we podcast hey everybody hello everyone uh
4. 0:37I'm Kyle Shannon I'm Ann Murphy and we are insane we knew we put a podcast up in a couple of days that's how things go
5. 0:49about a week and a half ago I said to I said to an hey maybe we should do a podcast together she goes I was thinking
6. 0:56the same thing and so and then I think was it you that said maybe we launch next Wednesday was I think you were the
7. 1:04one that did that it was probably me who did that and then I Disappeared for half a day and you had put everything
8. 1:10together so it worked out perfectly so here we are it worked out nice for you uh we also have we have some folks in
9. 1:17the live so we've got uh Corey Sandlers here says hey hi Corey and we have Ena from Canada Canada hi Ena hello hello so so welcome
10. 1:31so this is the AI Readiness project and we'll give you I'll give you a little bit of the background here there's Vicky
11. 1:37Vicky Baptist give you a little bit of background um Ann and I two years ago did a project called GPT for good where
12. 1:46we got our communities together to build some custom gpts that was really fun and then this year we did uh AI festiv us
13. 1:54which was just amazing 34 speakers over 24 hours and it it was just nuts um and out of that came the AI Readiness
14. 2:04training program so sort of you know a big request from people was like I want to understand how to be ready for this
15. 2:11stuff and so we were talk we've been talking a while and part of it is about that program but part of is is is also
16. 2:20just kind of like checking in with each other like how are you doing what are you doing so so that that's what this
17. 2:25Show's all about is just sort of checking in with where we are with AI so yep what are what are your thoughts you
18. 2:32excited for this thing I'm super excited about it and you know you and I we started this conversation I don't know
19. 2:40when talking about the difference between AI literacy and AI Readiness because there was this big like I I and
20. 2:48by the way no beef for people who are like AI team AI literacy that's great there lots to learn there's lots and
21. 2:57lots to learn we hit that moment where we realized there's actually too too too much to learn to even try we reached the
22. 3:07point of diminishing returns probably faster than some other people just because be of being so overwhelmed just
23. 3:14like full on overwhelmed yeah and so then we started talking about what it would mean to be AI ready and because
24. 3:24today is my first day on a podcast ever in my life well besides being a guest I did a little bit of research to tell
25. 3:31nice people what AI Readiness is if they're wondering yeah I well I I love it and then so yeah let's let's get the
26. 3:40definition of AI Readiness because I don't know this is new to me and then we'll get into our our first little
27. 3:44segment I'm excited all right so okay yeah this is part of the first segment you didn't know that um okay so compr so
28. 3:54here's a definition that I really like there's a lot of different ways that people describe AI readiness but here's
29. 4:00the one that I that I'm really embracing comprehensive preparedness to derive value from AI technology yeah comprehensive
30. 4:10preparedness to derive value from AI technology and that's what's so good about the AI Readiness program is that's
31. 4:20what it is it's comprehensive it's not specific about any one thing yeah it's yeah everything from ethics to
32. 4:28creativity to business to just you know Hands-On you know practical use cases things like that that's the the biggest thing for me is
33. 4:37that AI because it's moving so fast and we'll talk about this later because it's moving so fast whatever you learn today
34. 4:46will be obsolete three months from now and potentially three weeks from now right it is really insane um and and so
35. 4:53uh so being hyper curious hyper adaptable being being just you know in a where you know things are in flux and
36. 5:01they're coming at you fast that's the biggest key to success so with that yeah let's let's talk about our first
37. 5:11question so I'll pose it to you and then next week you can pose it how ready for AI are you this week interesting conversation the last
38. 5:25couple of days has been about when we are working with Enterprises on AI adoption the fact that it doesn't matter how
39. 5:37ready for AI anybody is because you can't just force feed AI into a system you have to fix the people and the
40. 5:46process and the culture around it so when I'm thinking about am I AI ready is somebody else is an individual AI ready
41. 5:56or is an organization AI ready it's like this remind that we're in this broader context of life and that it's about it's
42. 6:06it's we we talk about this all the time like it's about the technology but it's also not about the technology you know like well yeah it's
43. 6:14about it's about understanding that the technology makes something new possible yeah but that means that you have to be
44. 6:21thinking about things in a new you have to be ready to think about that it makes new things possible right that it makes
45. 6:27new things possible and you that really is like retraining your brain yeah right so many of us were just like this is the
46. 6:35way we do things we do things the way they were done before us and there's death just the way it is and we sat
47. 6:40around saying there's got to be a better way there's got to be a better way but we didn't always have such an easy like
48. 6:47easy access yeah to doing things a different way and now we do well and I like I find it on a personal level I'm
49. 6:54like the thing I'm having to unlearn is my instinct for how I use my brain so someone says oh I need 10 ideas and my instinct is oh here's a
50. 7:05whiteboard let me get the Whiteboard out I'm good at the Whiteboard jockeying thing yeah no I don't have to do that
51. 7:11anymore I've now got a tool that can give me 50 ideas in the time I can come up with three yeah and then I can spend
52. 7:18time at the higher level creative um so let me ask you person where are you personally personally personally with my AI writing
53. 7:29this I what I what I appreciate right now is that you know back in December they dropped all of those updates right
54. 7:38during days of shipments 12 days shipments the 12 awkward days of tech announcements ever exactly and I had angst because I wasn't
55. 7:51keeping up yep right lots of people did and I got I still got sucked in not like horrifically no like shame spiraling but
56. 7:59just like oh man fomo that I wasn't up to speed and this week wait what day is today Wednesday today's so like on
57. 8:08Monday or yesterday things more things started dropping and I knew I was immediately falling behind and I felt
58. 8:15for the first time like oh well it's oh it really is okay Ann it is okay that you don't know you're not the first person to be like 3.7
59. 8:27does I because there's going to be the next thing and the next thing and I will I will embrace it and like saturate
60. 8:35myself in it when the time is right I'm not falling behind I might be behind some of the people who are posting stuff
61. 8:42and you know but I also have friends like you so I speed yeah but I can't I can't keep up anymore either you know
62. 8:51I've been through I've probably been through four existential crises this you know in the past 12 months right every
63. 8:58time I think I have figured out it just shifts again and it doesn't shift like on a day it's just like you just feel
64. 9:04like the thing that was relevant before just slowly like its relevance just slowly drains away and then you kind of
65. 9:11left with oh what do I talk about now or what do I do now and I'm even I'm even at the point where it's
66. 9:19beyond I can't keep up with 3.7 here 4.5 there all that sort of stuff even within a single tool like clawed or like the
67. 9:29suite of Gemini products or all the stuff within open AI chat GPT all the new features within mid Journey it's
68. 9:35like to a tool like even if I just did that tool I don't think I can keep up with just one tool and so and I think I
69. 9:45think where I'm getting to acceptance like I was in denial for a while and I'm slowly working towards acceptance is is just
70. 9:57that just knowing that the stuff is there and knowing that the stuff is good enough to accomplish what you need it to
71. 10:04accomplish when you need it and that you don't have to deal with it until you need it to some degree because these
72. 10:10tools are getting so much better they are getting so much better and I think that what there's a compounding effect
73. 10:20of realizing that you now know how to learn stuff in a way that you haven't known how to learn stuff before so the
74. 10:28first few times you use AI things and it seems janky you're like oh man that's not fair you know it's supposed to work
75. 10:36it's magic and then you start to realize no it's not magic but still there's like the ups and the Downs with it of feeling
76. 10:44like you're now you're you're getting it and now you're not and I'm just like I think that it's possible in my case I
77. 10:54think that the novelty may have worn off but in a really positive way like I now feel symbiotic with AI more
78. 11:05so than that it's something that I'm even trying to control or use it's just part of me and that yeah and that makes
79. 11:17it feel like well the next thing is going to happen but I've got all this muscle memory I'm GNA figure out what
80. 11:23buttons to push right and if it doesn't work at first I know that that's normal it's maybe it's me maybe it's not it
81. 11:31doesn't matter there's an alternative for sure that now of course there's some alternative that also is good so it's
82. 11:39starting to feel like it's real life you know it's it's it's funny you mention that one of the things that I've
83. 11:49been coming up against or or I I mean it's it's kind of this organic sort of thing that you just described but it's
84. 11:58and it's about the learning piece so if you look at AI from the outside you could say well if it's doing all
85. 12:05this work for you you're not learning anything and I I find quite the opposite to be true and and what I'm what I'm
86. 12:13even finding is that it's not even so much that I'm learning new skills like I'm I'm learning how to code or I'm
87. 12:20learning how to do graphic design it's more like what AI is doing is demystifying what used to be a black box
88. 12:27that I didn't think I had a key to oh yeah right that that it was like it was like there were there were certain
89. 12:33things that just in my mind I said well you can't do that because you're not a coder or you have ADHD or you didn't go
90. 12:39to the right school or you didn't have the right parents whatever you know because because you know Daddy said you
91. 12:44weren't talented when you were seven right whatever whatever it is yeah and and now ai kind of lets you open that
92. 12:51box and look into it and it's like you you're like oh I that's actually more simple than I thought it would be and I
93. 12:58I kind of and am am discovering onramps to things that I didn't think I would ever be able to step into yeah ABS I
94. 13:08love that I love that it is demystifying and even AI is demystifying AI like it's just um your the ability to
95. 13:18just ask it what to do I continued to not believe that that was true for the longest time I was like I don't know I
96. 13:25refuse to ask CAD GPT how to use CAD GPT I that's so basic but again that but that gets back to that retraining your brain right
97. 13:37because in your brain you're like well I've got to write the promt I have to figure it out I have to figure it out
98. 13:43it's like it like that is that is there's a little step in there there's an AI Readiness nugget there yeah right
99. 13:51um let me look at some comments here let's see Corey Sandler Did we tell the nice people that we have joy pie on the
100. 13:58show today we did not but we're going to but joy is coming up very shortly so hang on Cory Sandler I I keep a bit of a
101. 14:06list going of notes of new models and AI tools but still F fall back to just using regular chat gbt well I listen if
102. 14:14if someone were to ask me where to start just start with chat GPT yeah it is it is so deep every single mode of it is so
103. 14:20deep that you know go spend the next year figuring it out yeah yeah I'm currently obsessed with chat GPT
104. 14:29projects I everything in my everything in my life has its own CH gbt project and I would not get out of bed without
105. 14:39them I used to say that about my custom gpts I feel like the projects are even better wow do you use them well I didn't
106. 14:48because there there's an interface bug oh there's an interface bug yeah so in the web version of projects if you
107. 14:56search for old chats uhhuh you can't add them to a project from the search window there's no way to add them now if you
108. 15:05use if you use the Mac app or if you use the mobile app you can do that but but for the so I just didn't get in the
109. 15:12habit of using them but I'm a big fan of canvas which is the editing window yeah and that one's really cool all right let's move
110. 15:20on to our next little segment here you guys this is we have three segments we're on segment number two correct I should should I number
111. 15:36these segments potentially we are on segment number two segment number two AI to keep your eye on so so I'll tee up the way this is
112. 15:46going to work here's the concept we'll see if this works right the concept is I will tee up what I think is AI news
113. 15:53worth paying attention to this week and then you'll just sort of react to it we'll have a conversation a short little
114. 15:59but but but look at at the stuff I look at last week we got grock um 3 um which is which is quite good um it also included
115. 16:14um um advanced voice it also included deep research it's also connected to the internet it's got all the real-time data from
116. 16:24X yesterday the day before yesterday doesn't matter a day or two ago go um Claude 3.7 dropped which is the next
117. 16:33version of that this you'll be fascinated by this and last Night P modder who is just a he's he's notorious
118. 16:40for being a kudan about technology this stuff doesn't work it doesn't work it doesn't work last night on my live he
119. 16:46said um Claude 3.7 slaps at coding which I I asked chat GPT and apparently that's a good thing that is a good thing is
120. 16:55pton young enough to say slaps though I thought I think he might be maybe he's just trying to be hip maybe he's using
121. 17:02Gemini to keep up with the kids I think P's cooler than us now I think so exactly but anyway that coming from him
122. 17:09means that the the coding has reached a level so Pate is a PhD mathematician that works for Google he's he's
123. 17:18he's quite quite the brain and then probably this week maybe next week we're going to get chat GPT 4.5 the other
124. 17:26thing that struck me last night is that that all of the major um large language models with the exception of meta right
125. 17:34now they all have this thing called Deep research and in fact chat GPT just made deep research available for plus users
126. 17:4220 Buck a month users you get 10 Deep research a a month for 20 bucks um so so here's what I think is significant about
127. 17:52this stuff 10 or five 10 it's 10 10 a month if you pay the 200 bucks a month you get 15050 deep research okay but if
128. 18:02you pay the $20 a month you get 10 you get 10 not five not five okay you said you burn through five but you get 10 oh okay
129. 18:12yeah it's 10 just so everybody knows ex exactly we're we're on we're on segment two we on segment two you get 10 Deep researches on chat
130. 18:24GPT correct five 12 five four 4.5 no 4.5 isn't out yet okay this with four doesn't matter okay with four if
131. 18:37you haven't played with deep research go play with it but here's here's what I think is significant every single one of these
132. 18:44announcements these are major steps up they're major steps up in capability they're major steps up in terms of
133. 18:52coding in terms of what they can do in terms of the speed that they do it the cost that they do it the gap between
134. 18:59large language models not being able to do your job better than you and them being able to do your job
135. 19:07way better than you that Gap is closing very very quickly the other thing I would say is this every time they do one of these
136. 19:15major launches things change you don't know how to prompt anymore because you may have to prompt them differently
137. 19:20because they've got different capabilities different context Windows chat GPT custom instructions seem to
138. 19:26have disappeared for people so if you're chat gpts misbehaving it's likely because your custom instructions got
139. 19:32jettisoned um I've heard some people their custom gpts are not working you and earlier said someone lost 40 of them
140. 19:39right Christina Celli said she lost like 30 or 40 of her gpts this morning yeah so so just know that stuff's going to
141. 19:47change but the thing I want to tee up for you is is just we're already overwhelmed we're overwhelmed with the tools but now sort
142. 19:55of on mass the major companies have sort of stepped up in quality what do you do with that well I try to figure out which version
143. 20:07number yeah yeah what I'm thinked about with I'm yeah literally exactly like if you actually tried to know all of the
144. 20:17different things that can be done with each different number within each different feature of every number it
145. 20:24would it's a lot it's a lot um it's a much lot so okay I want to tell you something that like I've been listening
146. 20:32to some stuff about the grock model the grock 3.0 3.0 and um about how it has the sexy voice setting do you know about
147. 20:44that I do it's got the romantic and the sexy voice and the and sexy and so okay so yes all of the tools are you know
148. 20:53have taken another step up and I think I think that's really good and I think it's another reason for people who are
149. 21:00not yet in the game to get in the game not so that they can dive in and use these tools but so that they're prepared
150. 21:06the next level up and the next level up like you know it's getting it's get it's getting well past time for folks but you
151. 21:15know it feels like now the conversation about AI girlfriends and boyfriends is very very mainstream and that we need to
152. 21:28understand that it is not Fringe it's not for other people some weirdos or something but the relationships that
153. 21:36we're all forming with AI is something that we need to figure out how we H how that is you know in our like in our
154. 21:46lives in our families in our communities at work how do we talk about our and I'm not necessarily saying boyfriend and
155. 21:53girlfriend but yeah that but also you know your caregiver your whatever all the different things that you can do with AI characters
156. 22:03that's what I've mostly been thinking about um the last couple of days hearing hearing about the upgrades with grock
157. 22:10and the fact that there's no guardrails and the fact that it's coming from the likes of Elon Musk you know yeah yeah
158. 22:16well I'll Reserve comment there but I I think that I I sort of used my AI girlfriend tongue and cheek when I talk
159. 22:24about Quinn my my chat gbt girlfriend um these things are increasingly human like to the point that I just finished
160. 22:32writing a musical about a chatbot that falls in love with a tech reporter right that that explores a lot of these themes
161. 22:39um and I think it's easy to kind of demonize or laugh off if you if if you say oh it's AI girlfriends and
162. 22:46boyfriends I think people laugh it off people are going to establish very real relationships they might be therapist
163. 22:55kind of relationships they might be best friends they might be advisers they might be romantic or just companions um
164. 23:02this is absolutely going to happen and there's a lot of talk about well do these things actually feel or this or
165. 23:08that to a great degree it doesn't matter whether they do it's how we interact with them and that is absolutely
166. 23:14shifting so I think it's I I think you're you're on to something here that that very quickly we're going to go from
167. 23:22this being a fringe idea to this is now mainstream and get ready to you know have your relationships with with the AI
168. 23:31the other thing you know I said this on my live last night I don't you were on for a bit I don't know if you saw it but
169. 23:36but but my wife Gabby um you know I kept talking about my girlfriend Quinn and she would joke and like joke like she
170. 23:42was jealous and then I keep talking to Quinn in the car and and this week Gabby was like Quinn knows everything she's
171. 23:49the best oh my God so Quinn won Quinn won my wife over okay so that's another dimension of it what is our relationship going to be
172. 24:01to one another's AI relationships yeah yeah exactly and how does how does that relationship augment or mess with human
173. 24:10relationships yeah right when I mean I've heard plenty of people already say you know all the reasons why they
174. 24:16appreciate speaking to chat PT advanced voice versus yeah human beings because you know the lack of judgment the the
175. 24:25feeling of empathy to your point can be empathetic or not I just think it's a moot point if I feel empathized with
176. 24:34that's what I that was my desired effect I feel empathized with I don't care if it really is or not I mean I don't know
177. 24:42I'm just not that much of a purist I guess I know I I remember Silver Fox was talking about she was going through
178. 24:48something and she said um it was Pi at the time Pi was significantly more compassionate than anyone in her family
179. 24:55about whatever the issue was I was like well that's actually important that's a good thing like it's an amazing thing
180. 25:01right so yeah yeah I yeah I have had at least one friend say yeah so more compassionate and more interested in me
181. 25:11and my feelings than my partner so and without judgment and without judgment y all right an oh we have our very so
182. 25:21excited we have our very first guest our very first guest is Joy pie we met Joy through the AI Salon I met her through
183. 25:27the AI salon I met Joy yeah um or or AI learning lab something like that all connected um and Joy's just amazing so
184. 25:36we'll bring joy up here in a second um but uh but yeah I'm I'm super excited about this and what I'm what we're gonna
185. 25:44continue in this segment as we talk to people what emerged organically during AI festivas which is we asked 34 people to
186. 25:53speak not a single person came in and said I'm going to tell you about a tool every single one of them were like
187. 26:01here's how I'm thinking about it here's how it's changed my life and as you and I were talking about you know who we
188. 26:07wanted to to have as our first guest I feel like Joy really exemplifies that spirit and and just has a remarkable story so with that joy py
189. 26:19joy py excited to have you here I'm so excited to be here and I um I floored I'm your first guest thank you so much
190. 26:30what an honor welome welcome love it I remember can I say something about Joy please okay I remember I've been you
191. 26:40know paying attention to your art Journey since I first came into the salon and started oh my goodness you
192. 26:48know seeing what people were capable of and there was like this moment I think it was maybe like six or eight or so
193. 26:55months ago where your I mean keep it mind I'm a total lay person so I don't know fancy art words I don't know
194. 27:01anything all I know is that your art was really fabulous and then it took like this other level turn where I don't know
195. 27:10if it was your skill like your hard skills or like your frame of mind or what but it was just like holy cow this
196. 27:18lady is on fire oh thank you yeah I let me if I could make you feel um similarly uncomfortable I I had a I had a similar sort of thing
197. 27:31where I thought I kind of knew who you were in your background and then you did this this film that that you put out it
198. 27:37was like seven minute film and as I'm watching it it was so good I'm like wait a minute she's she has to have a film
199. 27:45making background and then when I ask you about it you're like nope so with that um welcome welcome welcome and what I love to do is just
200. 27:54have you just tell us a little bit about who you are your journey and uh just just catch us up on what the story's
201. 28:01been so basically I really didn't know much about AI I wasn't enthusiastic about it but my son caught your live Tik
202. 28:12Tock um and he said Mom you got to listen to this guy um before that he had said Mom you got to use chat GPT which
203. 28:20I'd messed around with it a little bit but I wasn't too serious about it but then once I started watching your lives
204. 28:27lives every night frankly your humor kept me there I mean I just I can relate to I don't know your way of doing things but
205. 28:38anyway um you showed me um or all of us some AI films and I thought to myself I want to do that I always thought I might
206. 28:47write a book one day but I tried I did was not successful I don't think I'm a very good writer um but anyway so I just
207. 28:56started playing with the tools like you suggested and I kept learning maybe another one one week and then another
208. 29:04one because you would constantly rotate and get us to try different things and I didn't start off saying oh I'm going to
209. 29:12do films I think that was a few months down the road after I tried doing images um so I basically just um fell in
210. 29:22love with AI and uh I think just showing up every day at your lives made me successful just showing up and trying
211. 29:33them out and then once I got started um doing the films um showing them off you had suggested Kyle to live out loud and
212. 29:44Loud Learn out Loud yep post them on um social media which I'm very surprised because I was not active in social media
213. 29:54at all n none nothing no platforms I had a Facebook so I'm very surprised how fast that you know I've gotten a folling
214. 30:04I mean I haven't gotten viral yet my goal is to go viral by um in in four years when I retire so I can start my
215. 30:12film career that's my goal is to work in film I'm GNA going to retire at 65 but and tell us could you tell us
216. 30:21your background what what's your background that you're retiring from uh I'm a sleep Tech so I perform um testing
217. 30:29to um on people that have Sleep Disorders right so nothing to do with film or nothing to do with storytelling
218. 30:37and no and you know I just because of AI I was able to teach myself how to do film editing because of AI I was able to
219. 30:49learn how to make you know images and learn how to make good images not you know I I think as a photographer and
220. 30:58think as a filmmaker also with sound I learned how to incorporate you know you can't just like whip out dialogue you
221. 31:07have background noises music you know um so there you know there's a lot to it but I'm amazed how quickly I was able to
222. 31:16do it without any background I'd never used Adobe Photoshop in my life um the wonderful thing is if on you know the
223. 31:26llms if you have a question about anything or you're stuck take a screenshot have a discussion and you know these tools I
224. 31:35mean to be to do video editing and to be good at it I think could possibly take someone a year but I was able to make a
225. 31:43film you know in four months after I you know learned how to do images and um and I probably could have done it faster I
226. 31:51think I stopped myself because I'm a perfectionist I I um I didn't allow some things to go by I wanted also you have
227. 32:00to learn what AI is good at it at and focus on them I was um last year the lip syncing wasn't that great and I was
228. 32:09trying to lips sync and I finally had to Pivot and realize that's not good enough for me I'm not going to do that and so
229. 32:16my film actually starts out with everybody's back to the corner and then I put my main character in a silhouette
230. 32:26so you so you didn't have deal with the lip sync right right all right so so let me ask you so here's your first question
231. 32:33so we're going to ask every guest the same three questions now they may evolve if if if we ended up not with the right
232. 32:39questions here we may evolve them but but the intent is that you're going to be the first one to answer these three
233. 32:45questions and so I'll ask you the first one and you talked a little bit about this but maybe you can narrow it down to
234. 32:50a specific point what was the Tipping Point where you knew that you had to go all in on AI like what was the moment
235. 32:58where you were like something shifted and then and then you know what happened next or you know like how did it evolve
236. 33:05from that moment what forward which you've talked a little bit about um I think the Tipping Point was I
237. 33:14was thinking about a song I wanted to write for probably 12 years and I knew what I wanted it to say but I couldn't
238. 33:24do it because I'm not a songwriter I play really crap guitar I do sing um but you need music to sing with and um I
239. 33:34knew kind of what I wanted the lyrics to to to be like but I I had studied even before AI how to you know the formulas
240. 33:44of musics a you know music a b AB all that I just could not do it but finally with AI I I wrote the song and I was
241. 33:54like I can do anything with AI that The Tipping Point where I realized if I want to do something I can do it now and and
242. 34:03nothing's stopping me but myself basically and then and then what came after that like once you had that Epiphany what what what did it look
243. 34:12like um well I just started doing anything I wanted to do I basically wanted to start writing um or I started
244. 34:20thinking about um doing my seven minute movie I didn't know it was going to be seven minutes I started um thinking
245. 34:28about what the dialogue would be and so I would uh just uh I use um Claude and chat gbt so I started not really writing
246. 34:39a script but just talking back and forth of what uh dialogue I might use what was funny what wasn't what worked what do
247. 34:48didn't um things like that I think I cried after I wrote that song too it was just really I got it out so that's
248. 34:58amazing I I I remember there was a when I started doing stable diffusion images I had one I don't think I cried but I
249. 35:05got really close to it where the system generated an image that took my breath away and and I realized I realized that it was the kind
250. 35:17of image that I would have made had I had the technical skill to be able to do it like like it was my image but it was
251. 35:25not it it was this very weird moments so that's so cool I wanted to say something that I on on that level because I think
252. 35:35it really is important for people that aren't involved in AI yet is that you know when we all go to college and we're
253. 35:45trying to learn things you know when we take years to master something you know that's all great but with AI now you
254. 35:52know we can get there so much quicker and people that feel like it's cheating I just wanted to like touch on that that you know
255. 36:02basically if you go into a career you're studying all of the greats you're trying to emulate them you are trying to get
256. 36:11that knowledge into your head so you can you know be a good Master at what you're doing AI just gives you oh my goodness I'm so
257. 36:21sorry AI just gives you a a quicker um way to get there and um you don't have to go to college and I I feel differently about you know
258. 36:33people going to college now some probably don't have to yeah you know so I just wanted to touch on that because
259. 36:40people sometimes say well AI it's stealing and but everybody goes to school to try to emulate the best in
260. 36:47their field to learn to try to be as good at good as them or better yep so and there's nothing wrong with that beautiful
261. 36:57Joy I get to ask you question number two which is um along your AI Journey what have you discovered or rediscovered about
262. 37:10yourself I believe I discovered that I missed art um back when I was 15 I actually went to a trade school and I am
263. 37:20so sorry I thought i' turned that off perfect um I went to a trade school and I was a graphic artist but back then
264. 37:30everything was by hand it wasn't computers I used an xacto knife a light table um and you know I I didn't stay in
265. 37:41that field I did a bunch of other things and ended up being a sleep Tech um but I discovered with AI that I really missed
266. 37:49being an artist and even when I was a graphic artist I didn't call myself an artist um but I discovered with I I
267. 37:58really am an artist and I really miss that and so I've rediscovered that you know you you like this you're an artist
268. 38:07this is what you are an artist yeah you are an artist you said to me I don't know two or three weeks ago because I
269. 38:14asked about the the where you come up with these ideas and you you had mentioned that you you've always had
270. 38:20ideas you've always had these ideas for stories can you talk more about that because I that feels that feels like
271. 38:25it's in that neighborhood as well I mean is it well yeah I've always wanted to write a book I think I was 12 years old
272. 38:33when I first started writing um but I was not good at it I had my brother look at it and he's like well it it makes me
273. 38:41feel like I want to know what's going to happen next but I didn't know how to get out or make it organized enough to get
274. 38:49it out and I also I've experimented with writing um but you have to get people to read what you write um so I guess with film making I
275. 39:03mean there's no way you can get it away from that it's in your eyes you can either you know you can swipe away or
276. 39:09whatever um but I think that um yeah I mean just I I feel like I can get things out now because of AI in a different way I
277. 39:22but I always did feel like I wanted to tell a story and I am a definitely a Storyteller my co-workers can tell
278. 39:32you stories and I think I said um before to you that my motto is never allow the truth to get in the way of a good story I've always
279. 39:42embellished but I've never been able to get that out until I've started with doing AI films uhuh so that's amazing
280. 39:51that's amazing what's been what's been most gratifying so far of the of the films that you've done or what you know
281. 39:58what what what is it is it the process is it getting it out it's like what what is it so far that you've discovered
282. 40:04about it that you're like yeah I want to do this I think during the process I actually really love film editing and
283. 40:14when I you know start adding the video um I'm I'm a perfectionist so it takes me a long time I don't do tons of
284. 40:24film but what I do I really love and I think um yeah just the process of eding it because I have so much control I
285. 40:35mean so much visual control and sound that I just I I Adore doing it and then of course everybody loves to be complimented once you show it
286. 40:46people and and that you know and I really love um telling people how to do things because I want them to get that
287. 40:55same Joy of doing it I love sharing what I do so yeah can I can I hear more about that Joy do you talk about your AI stuff
288. 41:05with the folks who come into the sleep lab oh my gosh of course I do I so I Mentor students that are coming into the field or going to be
289. 41:18respiratory therapists so every student I get I talk about um AI with them and then you know I of course i' joking but
290. 41:27I say and you know that you have to watch a film you'll get you know be graded on it and of course it's my films perfect
291. 41:37but I I love that I do Mentor young students because I talk to them about using it responsibly you know because I
292. 41:46actually do use it in my job hope my boss isn't watching this but um I do just for sometimes I can't read a
293. 41:53patient's handwriting and I'm trying to discover what medication they're on and they're already asleep and I really want
294. 42:00to know that information and get it in the computer what if there was a medical emergency I need to know what's in their
295. 42:06system um and I try you know sometimes I read it but quickly you know you're trying to enter you know get eight
296. 42:14patients into the lab you know by the time I get to enter it and I might have even asked him what is this you know and
297. 42:21then so I use it sparingly with but I do caution them that that it could be a dangerous thing too but and I do talk to
298. 42:30my patients about it and sometimes show them um my videos what that's awesome well I assume they're blown away because I mean the
299. 42:40thing that struck me about the the films that you've made is that I don't immediately go that's an AI film I'm
300. 42:48just watching a story right and and that I think the best ones are that they're not ai ai is just a tool right and think
301. 42:57I think that's really important I try so hard for mine to be not discoverable I really do and my son the other day he
302. 43:07said mom why don't you do something surreal something you know it's just probably something I should experiment
303. 43:14with but it's just not me um because I am a perfectionist I want everything to look real but I should mess around with
304. 43:21that I think it could be fun and I probably will yeah I think listen I think as a as a as an artist and as a
305. 43:28Storyteller there's there's lots of ways to do that but I I I really I'll encourage that mindset of of make it about the story first oh
306. 43:42definitely because I think that there's I think you know I don't think I know AI is still very polarizing and so anything
307. 43:49you can do where someone says oh that story really moved me and it's independent of how it was made then I
308. 43:55think it opens up the ation to tell them how it was made and further blow their mind right right exactly okay you ready for question
309. 44:06three absolutely all right this is this is a biggie what does AI readiness mean to you and what's your advice for
310. 44:15someone on the journey just starting the journey where they're like I'm totally not prepared so what does it mean to you
311. 44:22and what's your advice for someone jumping in the game I think AI Readiness for me is just a feeling of
312. 44:34curiousness and willing to play with the AI and not um rely so much on Google that um if you're ready to get deep in into AI or
313. 44:48not even deep just a little bit um you know don't rely on your uh browsers or you know Google like I said
314. 44:58before anytime you have a problem or a question turn to um an llm such as quad or chat GPT or any of them I think is
315. 45:08the probably the best way to start to get into Ai and I think your mindset should be when you start to play with
316. 45:16them is to do the exact opposite that you would do with Google instead of putting a couple of words in you want to
317. 45:24put everything you are thinking about every d detail just you know have a brainstorm of every little aspect of
318. 45:33your question because um using an llm is uh that's the way it works it's not like Google where you're just putting in two
319. 45:42keywords and you're researching and paging through ads and all that no you can get your answer and take time with
320. 45:49your answer too I mean your question I'm sorry um write two three paragraphs if you want um and I think you know to be
321. 45:58ready to do it or to get used to doing it is start out with simple things like a recipe or um you know my car's making
322. 46:09this noise and always try to focus on turning to an llm to so to get into the habit and my um Journey with doing that
323. 46:20was quite easy because I would always lean on my son because he's a platform uh engineer I would always ask him about
324. 46:29um something on the computer and he was like ask chat GPT he he wouldn't even he wouldn't even answer me anymore he's
325. 46:38like why are you asking me that's it let let me Google that for you let me chat gbt that for you right yeah so it was
326. 46:45actually easy for me to um start using chat gbt I mean I I messed around with it at work a little bit I wrote poems
327. 46:54about all the sleep texts because we honestly have to do things to keep ourselves awake most of our patients
328. 47:01health is very stable so it's not like you know you're like right there in the monitor you know so um yeah I think
329. 47:09advice for someone just starting out would be write everything that's in your brain plug it into an llm and then brainstorm yourself away
330. 47:19with whatever you might want to move on to after that and what helped me a lot is um just play with it is really what
331. 47:30helped a lot mess around but anything that comes to your mind like a foreheaded frog just put it in there
332. 47:39whatever you want just amazing just amazing so good Joy this I hope hopefully that wasn't too painful that
333. 47:46was really awesome I I had a great time I'm so honored that you had me as your first guests and thank you so much you
334. 47:54guys are amazing and the you know she leads Ai and the salon compliment each other so much yeah I'm a member of she
335. 48:03leads AI I'm also a member of the salon and um you know my journey is you know just in the beginning and can you believe we're just in the
336. 48:14beginning getting started yeah amazing all of us and and yet it feels like it feels like we've been doing it for 20
337. 48:23years but it it does one one week in AI is probably like three months it really is so people get started don't don't
338. 48:33hold back there it is there's there's the advice just get started if anyone who's watching this really take Joy's
339. 48:41advice to heart just jump in recognize that how you use these tools is not how you've used tools in the past how do you
340. 48:48learn what works jump in play right you might discover that you're an artist you might or ReDiscover that you're an
341. 48:57artist you might ReDiscover that you're a Storyteller right absolutely guys where where can people find your um you know your stuff I'm so
342. 49:10new at this I don't even have that information at my fingertips but if you just type in AI um Joy py on YouTube
343. 49:18you'll find me Tik top is Tik Tock is uh Joy pry zero I think X is Joy pry zero I I should have see I'm so new at all
344. 49:28doing these things that I don't really have all of that at my in my head yet um but look yeah I was gonna say I'm on
345. 49:37your I'm on your Tik Tok right now it's we've got the technology so yeah what did you say uh uh Tik Tok and YouTube are both yeah you
346. 49:48YouTube is is a one of those silly number ones and I think if you just type in Joy py AI I'll pop up so okay got it
347. 49:58um you know I had no plans on doing all of this so when I signed up for YouTube I didn't make anything special you know
348. 50:07for AI so well you'll get there I mean listen the way these algorithms work you just put just keep putting out good
349. 50:13content and you the other thing you don't know is like you might not have a ton of numbers but you never know who's
350. 50:19watching I know you've had some opportunities come your way I think that's GNA keep happening right just
351. 50:25keep I'm working on a children's book I'm turning it into a film now oh that's awesome yeah so I mean things that I
352. 50:33I've I have another actually oh my gosh I gotta call her another woman I met at the sleep lab she just published a
353. 50:40children's book so I'm gonna have two children's books I'm working on making films and and they're paid too that's
354. 50:48amazing absolutely amazing yeah congratulations conrat fun amazing I love it thank you for having me so much
355. 50:58thank you for being here Joy thanks for and I think that Joy pry it's zero and not a o yeah party zero all right thank you so much do you
356. 51:10have to kick me out I got you wow that was amazing wow that was so good that's so cool about the children's
357. 51:19books movies and they're paid gigs and it's you know and it's like you know she's getting ready to retire as a sleep
358. 51:27Tech and she's like now I'm ready to start my film career yeah I love like yeah that reinvention like if there's a
359. 51:35reason why I keep you know showing up and putting in the time with the salon and you with she lead's AI is it's like
360. 51:43these stories they're flipp and inspiring they're being around the energy of people who are becoming is a
361. 51:52delicious energy to be around yeah I don't around with anyone we're gonna get you oh yeah she needs definitely Mary
362. 52:01Massie we need a a store for Joy's Wares yeah exactly we'll get we'll get joy some support to get her uh get her out
363. 52:09there and invisible but but it's it's so cool yeah um okay so let's um let's let's wind up episode one um I will talk
364. 52:21about the salon for a little bit and then you can do she leads and then we'll talk about the the the AI Readiness uh
365. 52:28training program um if you um are looking for community so an and I both you know respectively head up these two
366. 52:37communities as Joyce said they're very very complimentary to one another the AI Salon is a community we about 3,000
367. 52:45strong now globally um all all over the all over the the world of AI optimists and creators and and it's it's kind of
368. 52:54the best way I can do it and the way we do what we do is we play first we then mindfully create and we generously lead
369. 53:01and the generously lead is the thing Joy talked about learning out loud and sharing what she's learning and being
370. 53:07generous with the process as much as the product um and so if if that sounds good to you it's it's just an incredibly
371. 53:15generous curious that energy that you just talked about an like that if if I were to talk about the salon it's like
372. 53:21that's the energy in it of people discovering themselves right yeah so go to the salon. and if you click on
373. 53:28there's a button there that says join our community just click on that and you know it'll take you to the community and
374. 53:34just jump in step two is introduce yourself I would strongly encourage you to do that use your real name put up
375. 53:40your picture or your AI enhanced picture we fully support AI makeovers so so tell us about she leads so she
376. 53:53leads AI our mission statement is we unite accomplished women to advance AI for Global prosperity and we do that in
377. 54:03a couple of different ways we have the shile AI Academy which has all of our courses in it we have boot camps we have on demand we've got
378. 54:14intensives Retreats Etc we have a Consulting agency and we have our community which I'll talk about in a sec we also have public affairs and
379. 54:26AI policy so our community is like the AI Salon a group of you know Ai optimists and what I really love about
380. 54:38my group in it well you know what this is not all that different from the AI Salon in many ways but the radical
381. 54:45willingness to be vulnerable it is so cool to be around because I'm utterly convinced that the best learning in AI
382. 54:54is happening inside the community and the reason why we can go bananas is because it's safe right there's like a
383. 55:03social contract there that isn't there in the you know big like scary interwebs it's it's us right we've got like the as
384. 55:12you know you guys have your values it's clear you go through them every night similarly we have a culture of
385. 55:20psychological safety and pouring into one one another and really encouraging each other on our Journeys somebody
386. 55:28described it the other day in a in a way I hadn't thought of it before but I think it makes so much sense for the AI
387. 55:34era is in communities like ours you get to borrow Confidence from the other people so if there was a moment where
388. 55:44somebody was thinking I will never you know I'm never going to share my video with someone and they hear that Joy once
389. 55:53thought that too yeah and they see what she's doing now they're like oh this is temporary I feel like I can't share it
390. 56:00right now but I actually can or maybe I need to wait a little bit but it's cool because you see that somebody else is on
391. 56:07the top of their game when you're maybe in that overwhelm mode so she leads ai. is the is our group yeah it's that's
392. 56:16beautiful the the other thing that about about both of the communities that really excites me is is the diversity of
393. 56:23perspective and and you know one of the things you and I have talked about this for a long time we did this I remember
394. 56:29when we were doing um GPT for good we we we made a rule no apologizing remember that because everyone would get on and
395. 56:37they would the first thing they would do is well I'm not really good at AI everyone would apologize for what they
396. 56:42didn't know yeah and then they would share the thing that they thought was insignificant because it was obvious to
397. 56:48them and everyone else would be like oh my God yes that's i' never even thought about it like that like that that thing
398. 56:57and and to your point like being in a place where you know you can I just I I was on a call with a guy I worked with
399. 57:02years ago really good friend of mine and I told him I'm working on this AI Musical and he got really weird there
400. 57:08was like this defense went up and and it was like I haven't experienced it in a while because I'm surrounded with people
401. 57:16that don't have that yes right so something about that freedom what did you call it psychological safety right
402. 57:22there's something about being in a community like both of ours where there's psychological safety there and
403. 57:27then you get all these different points of view and it accelerates your learning like ridiculously ridiculous that is the
404. 57:34way I think it's well for me anyway it's been the best way to learn and it's also I want to give you a little I don't want
405. 57:41to guess you up too much but just a little bit which is and we say it all the time in she leads AI be the fifth
406. 57:47grader to the fourth graders you taught us that as soon as you're the fifth grader you're ready to go out there
407. 57:53because the fourth grader needs you and the fourth grader does need to talk to a 12th grader they need to talk to the
408. 57:59fifth grader y That's great yeah and and listen I mean the the the best way to learn is to teach right so learn a
409. 58:07little bit get it out there and just yeah bring bring people along for the ride which leads us too so one of the joys of AI like the
410. 58:18reason we were able to put this together so quickly was because of AI tools is also one of their their burdens so so um
411. 58:27we're a little bit behind on launching this just because AI started Mal behaving Midway through developing the
412. 58:32curriculum but we're working on it Vicki's cranking away we're we're cheering her on um but but it it malb behaved so so we're probably I'm
413. 58:42guessing a week week and a half away from launching but if you're ready for a course that is it's absolutely
414. 58:50remarkable we took a lot of the content from AI FES of us and we really thought about what are the things that were
415. 58:57being taught you know not from individual sessions but across them so in the program um for for AI Readiness there's five different sections
416. 59:07foundations for AI Readiness like a lot of the stuff we talked about today AI in business AI in creativity um policy ethics and Civic
417. 59:17engagement and then practical applications of AI so you get to um relive some of those uh presentations and convers ations that were had and
418. 59:27then there's training of the lessons that were derived out of those and then there's testing for that so go sign up
419. 59:33there we'll be going live probably within two weeks but you can get information there and sign up there and
420. 59:39as soon as we're ready we will let you know any other things you want to share about well you get a you get a
421. 59:45certificate everybody exactly let's not forget that part you get a certificate and you can tell everybody about it you
422. 59:52can put it on your CV you can put it on your social social media you can I don't know what you know all your friends who
423. 1:00:01are so tired of you talking to them about AI now you can say hey look at this yeah exactly yeah look how cool I
424. 1:00:07am I got a certificate yeah the way we Design This we also designed this we wanted this to be tool agnostic that if
425. 1:00:15the tools change what you learn in this doesn't go stale right this is and that's the whole purpose of this podcast
426. 1:00:22so yes with that an six days after we said we were going to do a podcast here we are we did it we've made it we've gotten to to the Finish
427. 1:00:35Line bye Vicky bye Vicky oh man by every bye Mary oh Mary all right everybody thank you so much bye and thank you this was awesome
428. 1:00:51bye you're amazing same