
AI Learning Lab
12/3/2025 - Preparing for a Future Where AI Makes Work Optional

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NYC - In the prison cell. From subway to this. Oh, and AI.
Kyle Shannon questions how long the "human in the loop" approach to AI will remain relevant, predicting a future where AI's capabilities far surpass our own. He shares that his primary concern isn't the technology itself, but the potential for a widespread societal loss of purpose when work becomes optional. This leads to a thoughtful discussion on the likelihood of Universal Basic Income and how quickly society can adapt to major shifts.
In response, Kyle urges viewers to start cultivating creativity, critical thinking, and personal projects now, before they're needed. He argues that developing a strong sense of purpose is the best preparation for a world where AI can execute almost any task. The stream also features a fun, spontaneous moment as collaborator Brandon develops a playable 8-bit subway rat game live.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 New York City Intro
00:02:55 The Subway Rat Game
00:05:49 Discussing AI Bots
00:09:05 The Future of Work
00:12:20 When AI Gets Too Good
00:15:24 The Fear of Lost Purpose
00:18:25 Reinventing Ourselves
00:21:40 The Importance of Creating
00:24:10 Debating Basic Income
00:29:51 The End of Janky AI
00:32:33 Announcing AI Festivus
00:36:05 Promoting the Event
00:40:10 Salon's Got Talent
00:44:08 Subway Surfer V2
00:46:40 The AI Salon Philosophy
00:50:35 Me Amplified by AI
00:52:50 Finding Your Purpose
00:56:14 Producing a Musical
00:59:00 The Broadway Dream
01:02:00 Future Subway Ride
Chapters
0:00New York City Intro2:55The Subway Rat Game5:49Discussing AI Bots9:05The Future of Work12:20When AI Gets Too Good15:24The Fear of Lost Purpose18:25Reinventing Ourselves21:40The Importance of Creating24:10Debating Basic Income29:51The End of Janky AI32:33Announcing AI Festivus36:05Promoting the Event40:10Salon's Got Talent44:08Subway Surfer V246:40The AI Salon Philosophy50:35Me Amplified by AI52:50Finding Your Purpose56:14Producing a Musical59:00The Broadway Dream1:02:00Future Subway Ride
Transcript
0:07 Oh yeah, good people. 0:12 Good people of the Tik Tok. What is 0:16 happening? 0:18 What is shaking? What is going down? 0:22 Look at that hair. 0:24 That's got some New York City grime in 0:27 it. 0:29 It's got some sublace scunge. 0:33 Oh man, are you doing some painting and 0:35 decorating? Well, the ladder was there 0:38 last night and I moved it and it just 0:40 looked like I was in prison. So now it 0:42 looks like I'm on a construction site, 0:44 which I think is more interesting. 0:48 If I were actually in prison, that would 0:50 be interesting. But, you know, it's just 0:52 a new apartment. 0:56 And by new, you know, it was new in 0:59 1947. 1:18 And breathe. Everybody breathe. 1:21 Welcome. 1:23 Welcome to the AI learning lab. 1:27 We've got one person on Tik Tok or 1:29 YouTube. 1:31 We got six people here, 1:34 but we're live on YouTube. If you want 1:35 to head over there, you can. We got 1:38 stuff going on. Um Yan Brandon, um any 1:43 free apartment 1:46 in New York that's not ratinfested is 1:48 good. Seriously, man. This the place is 1:51 really nice. It's a nice building. 1:53 Um, and it's yeah, like a free place to 1:56 to sleep. Although tomorrow I got 1:59 nothing. So I think tomorrow I'm going 2:02 to an event at Lincoln Center and then I 2:04 assume I'm going to drinks after 2:08 and 2:10 then after that I have to go up to the 2:12 Bronx, 2:14 come back down 2:17 uh in the morning for a morning meeting. 2:22 Yeah. 2:23 So, we'll see. I'll figure it out. 2:27 Um, 2:36 all right. Let's see. Let's switch the 2:39 cameras. 2:41 Um, one funny thing that that young 2:44 Brandon did 2:47 is while I was doing my Subway Live, 2:53 Brandon was vibe coding. 3:02 Brandon vibe coded a Subway rat game. 3:06 So, while we didn't see any real rats, 3:10 Um, some virtual rats were harmed in the 3:13 making of this game. Brandon, you want 3:15 to come up here and show your show your 3:17 game and tell the good people how they 3:19 can make a rat game? 3:21 >> Yeah. So, as you were sitting there h 3:24 trying to uh not awkwardly film people 3:27 on the reverse camera, uh, I was and 3:30 while we were going through our signal 3:31 losses, I'm like, I bet this this feels 3:33 like a video game where you just have to 3:35 go through the subway system and avoid 3:37 rats. I mean, it's basically Pitfall or 3:40 Super Mario with the the mushroom guys, 3:43 but I as asked to make an 8-bit game 3:44 where a player has to run through an NYC 3:46 subway system. This is Gemini, by the 3:48 way. Uh, jumping over rats and fighting 3:50 other passengers. Gameplay should feel 3:52 like pitfall. Call it Subway Surfer. So, 3:54 it did. And I had to give it um one 3:57 little quick redirection here. But this 3:59 is the second attempt. And uh it's 4:03 pretty good. It's pretty playable. I 4:05 mean, it's very basic, but you can jump 4:06 on top of the subways cars. You have to 4:09 you can shoot the other passengers uh 4:11 just like in real life. And uh you can 4:14 jump over top of the rat or if you jump 4:17 on top 4:17 >> you can't jump over Yeah, you can jump 4:19 over the rat. 4:19 >> No, but on it and kill it. 4:22 >> Uh no, it will it will uh give you 4:24 rabies and you will lose a life. 4:26 >> Well, you Oh, you know, here's two two 4:29 changes, Dad. One is you should be able 4:30 to jump on it and kill it, but you 4:32 should also if you kill a rat with 4:35 that's carrying pizza, a slice of pizza, 4:38 you get a bonus point. 4:40 >> Yeah, you should be able to pick up the 4:41 pizza needed or something like that. 4:43 >> All right. Well, if you can handle the 4:44 Well, we're going to switch the Tik Tok 4:46 cams because you don't have your 4:47 construction paper, but uh in between 4:50 producing, I might uh 4:54 >> I might uh come up with a round two. And 4:56 and this is just on Gemini Canvas. And 4:58 what I can do is I can share this. I'll 4:59 show this in irregulars once we uh once 5:01 it's updated. 5:03 >> Okay. Once you once you get it to world 5:05 class. 5:06 >> Yes. 5:10 Um Okay. So, uh we'll wait for more 5:14 people to get in here for I'll I'll talk 5:16 promo stuff. Um 5:20 who's got any questions? I had a really 5:22 AI AI AI. We've made it possible to get 5:25 a domain 5:27 AI entertainment in blockchain. Pay once 5:30 only. Please do not spam the comments 5:32 with ads. Thank you. 5:45 AI summary. AI learning lesson. Ask 5:47 about AI. 5:50 Who made the AI summary bot? 5:54 Who made it? 5:57 Who made it and made it come to my 5:59 lives? I like it. I don't think it's a 6:02 bad thing. I think it's a good thing. I 6:03 just want to know. Hey, Reggie, did you 6:05 make the AI bot? I appreciate you 6:08 looking for a rat even though you missed 6:10 your turn to stop. Yeah, I went I went 6:12 two blocks I went two blocks past the 6:16 apartment, Danielle. 6:24 It wasn't just an ad. It's a protection 6:26 of an asset. But okay, it's still 6:28 marketing. So, here's the deal. If you 6:30 want to be in here, you're called AI 6:32 Entertainment. This is the AI learning 6:33 lab. If you want to be in here and you 6:35 want to support other people and 6:36 figuring out how to use AI, things like 6:38 that, great. Um, but just throwing up 6:40 marketing stuff's not cool. Um, I don't 6:43 even see anything from the bot really. 6:46 Oh, maybe it's a So, let's see. the the 6:49 AI bot is right above it's right below 6:53 it's actually right below AI 6:54 Entertainment's thing that I yelled at 6:55 them for. 6:57 Um we've made it possible to get a 7:00 domain in AI entertainment. Look for 7:02 that post and then what I see is right 7:04 below that is AI summary and then it 7:08 says AI learning lesson ask about AI. 7:12 I saw it then it disappeared. It may 7:13 just be you. Oh, maybe it's a Tik Tok 7:16 thing. I don't know. I like 7:20 if it's a Tik Tok thing, it's kind of 7:22 useless because it's like it's 7:24 summarizing what I've already said and 7:26 then telling me to recap what I said, 7:29 which if I'm if I am completely 7:34 incoherent might not be a bad thing. 7:38 Oh, no. I I found it and pinned it for a 7:41 second. Oh, okay. Vicki, you're on the 7:43 Tik Tok side tonight. Yay. 7:47 Um, 7:54 who's got questions about AI? Who's got 7:58 questions? It's Dar. Dar the AI star or 8:01 Tar Dar the Tik Tok star. 8:06 Um, 8:10 it's so funny. Last year I was so 8:12 excited about 12 Days of Shipmas. 8:15 So 12 days of new chatbt products and 8:19 there was all this speculation, all this 8:21 excitement and they're doing the same 8:23 thing this year and no one seems to give 8:25 a [ __ ] 8:27 AI seems to have lost their or open AI 8:31 seems to have lost their way a bit. 8:32 Google seems to be flying high right 8:34 now. 8:39 Um, this is something I said on uh we 8:44 did today. We did the AI readiness 8:46 project podcast had a really good guest 8:48 on 8:51 and after the podcast we continued the 8:54 conversation a little bit and and 8:55 something struck me that I'm I'm feeling 9:00 and the thing that I'm feeling 9:04 is that there are a lot of folks 9:09 in our community there are a lot of 9:11 folks in the AI world 9:14 and then I think there's a lot of folks 9:16 in general 9:24 that are talking about 9:27 our role with AI as 9:31 a requirement 9:38 to get good work. 9:45 And 9:48 I do not believe that to be true. 9:51 Um, at present it is, but what I'm what 9:56 I'm starting to notice is that there's a 9:58 lot of people talking about 10:01 human in the loop was the early version 10:04 of it, but but talking a lot about, 10:08 you know, we're there to refine and 10:11 curate and do all this stuff with the 10:12 AI. 10:15 I I don't think that's going to be our 10:17 job for long. I I mean I think it's 10:20 going to be two years, three years, 10:25 but when when we hit AGI and when we hit 10:31 recursive self-improvement where the AGI 10:34 gets better quickly, 10:39 uh these these tools are going to get 10:41 remarkably good. 10:44 Um, 10:47 and so there's a part of me that's like 10:48 I'm I'm like preemptively sad about 10:51 that. 10:53 And I'm not sad because we as humans 10:55 won't figure it out. We'll figure it 10:57 out. We're humans. We'll we'll find new 11:00 new ways to be miserable about 11:02 something. 11:10 We'll find new ways to to, you know, 11:15 find things to do. 11:19 But I I guess the reason I'm saying this 11:21 is just kind of do an inventory of how 11:24 you know your language, how you talk. 11:26 Maybe if you've put together programs or 11:28 trainings or things like that, if 11:30 they're kind of based on the premise 11:31 that we're always going to be necessary, 11:35 um 11:37 just keep out of your peripheral vision, 11:41 pay attention to activity that might 11:43 start to feel like that's changing. 11:45 Don't get don't get stuck in that 11:47 because I think I I think a lot of 11:49 people are going to get stuck in that 11:50 and and it's going to blindside them. 11:53 So, I know that's kind of a depressing 11:55 thought, but 11:59 and then and then and then I start to 12:01 wonder, wow, what's what's life going to 12:03 be like when we have tools that are so 12:05 good 12:07 that it is we can choose to participate 12:09 with them, right? We'll always have that 12:11 option. I mean, we can always go back to 12:14 writing with pens and papers. We can 12:15 always go back to writing with a word 12:17 processor. We can always go back to just 12:18 writing with bake basic chatpt. 12:22 But imagine we're in a stage where you 12:26 can speak a feature film into existence 12:28 and it's great. You can speak a novel 12:30 into existence and it's great. You can 12:33 speak a business plan into existence and 12:36 it's perfect and nuanced and 12:39 sophisticated and easy to understand 12:43 and instantly implementable. And in 12:45 fact, not only does it write a business 12:48 plan, an agent starts executing it. Me 12:53 and my family were talking about the 12:54 Jetsons. Yeah, Carolyn. I you know the 13:00 we're kind of living. We're close 13:04 like it's coming faster than I thought 13:07 it would. We don't quite have flying 13:10 cars yet, but we certainly have drones 13:12 and we've got, you know, drones that 13:14 look like cars. Um, the Tesla Roadster 13:18 is apparently going to have some sort of 13:19 levitating air burst kind of technology 13:24 that will blast it off the ground, which 13:27 who knows what the hell's purpose that 13:29 serves other than it's cool. Uh, so 13:32 we're we're close on the flying cars, 13:34 but but yeah, like 13:38 we're surprisingly close to the Jetsons. 13:42 The humanoid robots probably within two 13:45 years are going to be good enough good 13:47 enough to have in our homes. 13:50 You know, there'll be a novelty at first 13:52 and your rich douchebag friend down the 13:54 block will have the first robot and 13:57 everybody will go over to visit visit it 13:59 and pretend like they don't think that 14:02 Jason's a [ __ ] 14:04 just so they can see his robot. They'll 14:07 be like, "I'll wait for the next 14:08 version." Yeah, I don't need a robot. 14:13 And then and then the next Christmas 14:15 under the tree will be four robots, one 14:17 for each kid and the grandmother. 14:21 And the grandmother has the special 14:23 companionship upgrade 14:27 with little hard eyes. 14:32 Grandma's a little lonely. 14:43 My god, 14:50 I'm I am a little punchy as they say. 14:53 That's pretty funny though. 14:56 Um, 15:00 but we 15:03 the so when we were talking to these two 15:05 guys tonight that were asking about AI 15:07 and they were they were genuinely 15:09 curious. One was a creative director in 15:11 an agency. One worked for Door Dash as 15:13 some sort of business development guy. 15:16 And the creative director at one point, 15:17 you know, said, "Do you have any fears? 15:19 What's your fear?" 15:21 And my biggest fear 15:24 with AI 15:27 is that we we go to this place where 15:34 the machines can do everything. 15:39 And and you know this is 15:42 the place that I'm talking about is 15:44 probably like seven to 10 years away. 15:46 But let's assume we've gone through the 15:48 the rough patch of getting to universal 15:52 basic income or universal high income is 15:56 what Elon Musk calls it. Universal basic 15:58 compute is what Sam Alman calls it 16:01 doesn't [ __ ] matter at some point 16:05 assuming the trajectory continues the 16:09 productivity is going to be higher than 16:10 the people required to like right now 16:12 here's productivity here's the people 16:14 required to make it and at some point 16:17 those two things are going to do this 16:19 they're going to diverge and if they 16:20 diverge quickly enough 16:22 um you know we'll end up with universal 16:25 basic income and all that sort of 16:27 And so I think that's going to happen. 16:29 Who knows when? Doesn't matter. But the 16:33 risk 16:35 as people get laid off and they don't 16:37 have places to work and then as that gap 16:40 is big enough that we actually get taken 16:43 care of to some degree, that we have 16:46 enough money that that there's enough 16:48 prosperity 16:50 on the upside to make sure that we're 16:52 all taken care of. 16:54 What do we do? 17:00 If you just think, I'm just going to sit 17:02 around in a hammock, that's going to get 17:03 old really quick, right? One of the most 17:06 dangerous time in a person's life is 17:09 when they lose purpose. 17:11 When you lose purpose, right? When a 17:13 spouse dies, 17:15 when you know you leave a company or 17:18 sell a company. I sold agency.com in 17:21 2002. I was depressed for a decade. 17:26 a decade. 17:28 I tried to start new businesses, but my 17:30 heart wasn't in it. 17:32 I lost my purpose 17:35 and 17:38 a huge amount of people losing their 17:41 purpose. That's the thing that scares me 17:44 the most. The fear of AI is holding many 17:46 back. I wonder if they still fear 17:48 Photoshop. Yeah, I mean, Rej, that's a 17:50 good point. I mean it's it's just a 17:52 technology but I I think the fear of AI 17:55 is is more fundamental 17:58 than just another technology right the 18:01 worldwide web was just another 18:03 technology Photoshop to a degree was 18:05 just another technology the internet was 18:08 profound connecting many computers right 18:10 that allowed for Moors law to or uh uh 18:13 the metaf is it the metaf effect the the 18:17 network effect 18:19 to happen. 18:21 So that was pretty profound. The 18:23 personal computer itself was pretty 18:25 profound. The computer itself was pretty 18:26 profound. 18:28 But AI is a different thing. AI is for 18:32 the first time 18:35 not making the work we do more 18:38 efficient. It is doing the work right. 18:41 It has got the knowledge. It has got the 18:43 skills. It has got the capacity. 18:46 And I know if you're looking at it 18:48 through today's lens, you're like, "Ah, 18:50 it's very janky, Kyle. We still need a 18:53 lot of humans in there to fix it up, 18:54 right? It's not it's not perfect." 18:58 And I don't know why you talk like that. 19:00 But you do. I mean, that's just who you 19:02 are. 19:04 And nobody likes that face, 19:07 but that's on you. 19:11 Well, that's rude. 19:15 I don't know why you look like Al 19:16 Franken. I don't 19:26 um we have to reinvent ourselves. We do. 19:28 We have to reinvent ourselves. And and I 19:31 think that 19:36 what excites me about this community is 19:38 that this community is 19:41 are people who are excited to reinvent 19:43 themselves. 19:45 Um 19:50 I don't hear a lot of people talking 19:52 about this. I don't hear a lot of people 19:53 talking about it. AI summary AI's future 19:56 impact debate its risks. 20:02 Does everyone see AI summary right now? 20:05 I I bet it is a Tik Tok thing. It must 20:08 be a Tik Tok thing. 20:10 It's kind of annoying. 20:13 Disney princess. Hello, Disney princess. 20:15 Tobias is in the house. Nope, not seeing 20:17 it. Okay, interesting. Yeah, that's just 20:20 to me then. All right, fine. 20:26 Okay, let's see what happens in the next 20:28 5 years. It's not light years away. 20:31 It ain't that far away. 20:34 Five years. 20:37 It ain't that far away. 20:42 And here's the thing. If you're in a job 20:44 right now, 20:46 if you're in a job or if you're in a 20:48 mental mode 20:52 where you're just like, I just punch the 20:54 clock. I just let them tell me what to 20:56 do. 20:59 If you're not engaged engaged 21:01 critically 21:03 crit critical thinking wise in your job. 21:07 If your job is like a cog in a wheel 21:13 just repetitive data entry or something 21:16 like that. 21:20 And and 21:22 you're not outside of work engaging 21:24 those muscles of creativity and critical 21:29 thinking and self-reflection 21:32 and coming up with ideas and being 21:36 ambitious about them and being curious 21:38 and and 21:41 creating. 21:43 If you're not in the habit of creating, 21:46 that's what I would work on right now. 21:51 And you can use AI, but I like I almost 21:54 I almost feel like it doesn't [ __ ] 21:56 matter. 21:58 Like like Vickiy's got her whole 3D 22:01 printing thing. And I mean Vickiy's got 22:03 a ton of other stuff, but like the 3D 22:06 printing thing is being augmented by AI. 22:09 She can make models herself now quickly 22:11 using AI and tossing them into tools and 22:14 things like that. So there's 22:18 there's cool stuff, but there but like 22:21 she she can also just do her, you know, 22:24 CAD skills and or or just go to 22:26 Thingiverse and get models and print 22:28 them and choose filaments and, you know, 22:31 she's geeked out enough on the core 22:33 technology that she knows how they work 22:35 and she knows what filaments look like 22:37 and what they do. 22:39 So she can just be in a in a creator 22:42 mode and mindset 22:45 without having to think about AI. 22:48 And 22:50 if you if you don't have that in your 22:52 life, if you don't have some version of 22:55 pick up the crocheting needles, write a 22:57 novel, um start a business, start a 23:00 invent a new kind of pizza, 23:03 uh invent a new kind of math, 23:07 I don't know. 23:09 I'd get that going. I'd get that going. 23:11 Feels important to me because otherwise 23:14 if work becomes optional and you opt out 23:17 of it and you don't have purpose, you 23:19 don't have a sense of who you are and 23:21 what you want, 23:24 I think it's going to suck. 23:27 Math on pizzas. Well, they are pie 23:33 3.1415 if you know what I mean. 23:36 It's a different kind of pie. 23:40 It doesn't have an E. You see, that's 23:42 the comedy part. You thought I was 23:44 talking about pizza pie. I was just 23:47 talking because it's round. It's a 23:49 circle. 360 degrees. 3.145. 23:55 Oh, I love math comedy. 24:00 Dundler Clump. Dunder Clump. UBI will 24:04 never arrive in the USA. If that type of 24:07 mechanism would exist, there would be no 24:10 trillionaires, billionaires in the USA 24:11 today. Um, here's where I'll push back 24:14 on you, Dunderclump. 24:17 I guess is that a Dunder Mifflin thing? 24:19 Because it's a very funny name. Um, 24:23 first of all, using the word never in 24:26 the age of AI, I think is there's my 24:30 first there's my first signal. 24:32 um that that might just be a trope that 24:35 that that you're just saying. You're 24:37 just saying that [ __ ] Um I don't 24:40 disagree with you that the billionaires 24:43 and trillionaires 24:45 have no interest, zero interest in 24:48 giving up any of their upside 24:50 profitability. However, 24:53 do you remember back in 2020 around 24:56 March 24:59 when on a single day or maybe it was two 25:03 days the entire globe 25:07 decided to stop going to work 25:12 and we just did it. 25:14 There was a precipitating event 25:18 that had enough risk in it 25:21 that we took a hundred years of 25:25 behavior and we just changed it 25:29 overnight. Boom. 25:34 If 25:37 AI's gain in productivity is linear 25:42 and it really doesn't reduce the 25:43 workforce by much, let's say that, you 25:46 know, here's our GDP growth and then AI 25:50 causes a 2% dip, incremental dip on top 25:54 of 25:55 existing unemployment. So we go from 25:58 whatever four to six 26:02 and and you know 26:05 GDP is going like that. You're 26:08 absolutely right. You're absolutely 26:10 right. 26:12 If if it if it takes as long as the 26:17 industrial revolution, so when the steam 26:19 engine came out, it was 40 or 50 years 26:22 before 80% of farmers were eliminated. 26:27 So that's like what is it two and a half 26:28 generations? Is it 20 years for a 26:30 generation? 20 25 years. I don't know. I 26:32 don't know how that works. I think it's 26:33 20th. Aren't there five generations in a 26:35 century? 26:38 So over two and a half generations, 26:42 the steam engine replaced 80% of jobs. 26:45 Now, if we're in a situation where 26:48 productivity is going like this and the 26:51 amount of people needed to do it go like 26:53 this and then all of a sudden this goes 26:56 up dramatically and this goes down 26:58 dramatically, that gap, 27:02 we were there. And if it does that 27:06 in the course of three years, even five 27:08 years, 27:10 if we go from 4% to 10 to 20 quickly, 27:16 that's effectively an economically 27:18 catastrophic event. So 27:22 industry will not be able to keep all 27:24 the profit. Government will have to step 27:26 in. And what what will likely happen is 27:29 government will step in and say who's 27:32 who is the beneficiary of this increase 27:36 and they will tax them is my guess. 27:40 Um David Shapiro if you want to look at 27:43 um some of his work on post labor 27:45 economics is really um thoughtful on 27:48 this. Um he's got a whole sort of local 27:52 solution to this that doesn't require 27:54 centralized UBI. Um centralized UBI in 27:58 his model I think accounts for 10 or 20% 28:03 of the total pie and most of it has to 28:06 do with local resources. 28:08 Um I I dunder think it may happen in 28:12 Europe where taxes are not a dirty word 28:15 just not here in the USA. the well the 28:16 thing I'm saying um Dunder is um 28:21 it's it's possible if AI does not have a 28:24 dramatic impact on on the workforce if 28:28 it has a dramatic impact then then I 28:30 think you have to because because if you 28:32 end up 20% in unemployment you have a 28:35 revolution on your hands so so like 28:39 here's the thing about the the the rich 28:42 class they're not [ __ ] stupid they're 28:44 they're they're rich for a They know how 28:46 the game is played. They know how to 28:48 manipulate the machine, right? And they 28:51 understand how the machine works. And 28:52 they also understand that if certain 28:55 elements of the machine get too far out 28:57 of whack, 28:59 it will go bad for them. 29:02 There are books that talk about this. 29:05 You've seen this before, 29:10 but we'll see. You could be right. 29:13 I just, you know, I just I, you know, 29:15 had we not had COVID, I would be 29:17 absolutely in your camp, but but we all 29:20 got to experience what happened when 29:21 there was a catastrophic risk um and the 29:25 United States included um you know did 29:28 the quarantine thing. So, same thing 29:32 will happen with AI and economics at 29:34 some point. 29:37 I don't know how fast it's going to go. 29:39 Business is really slow to adopt [ __ ] 29:42 So instead of three to five years, it 29:45 might be five to 10 years. It might be 29:47 five. It might be 10 to 20 years. I 29:49 don't know. But I just don't I think 29:52 2026 is going to change some [ __ ] 29:56 I think 2026 is where we're going to 29:57 start to see the first non-janky AI. 30:02 AI from from November 30th, 2022. I'm 30:05 counting that as the beginning of the 30:06 generative AI era. So, we just hit this 30:09 week is the third year anniversary of 30:11 chat GPT. 30:14 I would say we are still firmly in the 30:18 AI is a janky piece of [ __ ] phase 30:22 of AI. Um, 30:25 the hallucinations are unmanageable. 30:28 Um, the like vibe coding things wiping 30:32 out people's hard drives is 30:34 unmanageable. autonomous agents that 30:37 [ __ ] things up are unmanageable. The 30:39 physics in movie generation is 30:41 unmanageable. The lack of character 30:43 consistency for storytelling, the lack 30:45 of coding consistency, the lack of 30:47 security in coding, every in every 30:50 single discipline, things are jankier 30:53 than [ __ ] 30:55 I think we start to see that change in 30:57 2026. There will be an example or two of 31:01 a system that's built that's like, "Oh, 31:05 well, that's interesting." H 31:09 I didn't think they'd get that good that 31:11 fast. 31:19 And if that happens, 31:23 keep coming here. Pay attention. Pay 31:25 attention. Like, uh-oh. What did I do? 31:29 >> You didn't do anything other than 31:31 forgetting to open Miro. So, I have This 31:33 is the only way. 31:34 >> I can't see I can't I can't see it at 31:36 all. My whole 31:36 >> Yeah. So, I figured um couple things 31:38 though to to interrupt. Um one, Hedra 31:42 dropped on Twitter or X as they call it 31:45 now. Uh that a option to sketch a video 31:52 into existence. They're calling it head 31:54 draw and they're offering a credit promo 31:59 if you comment their headaw. They they 32:03 just DM'd me like 500 free credits to go 32:06 play with the new head draw. It's not 32:08 available if you go to the website, but 32:10 if you DM them or send them a comment on 32:12 their latest expost. Um 32:15 >> did you put that in the in the thing? 32:19 >> I I did not, but I will. But it's a 32:21 limited offer, you know, first come, 32:23 first serve. Um, also, uh, I since we 32:26 were talking about staying tuned to 32:28 what's going on in the future, figured 32:30 it would be a great time to talk about 32:32 Festivus. Now, I'm going to go. 32:34 >> Perfect. Lovely. So, let me talk about 32:36 Festivus. So, 32:39 um, 32:41 it is December 3rd. 32:45 Three. 32:48 December 3rd, 32:51 three weeks from now, 32:54 right after the holidays. I don't know 32:56 if I'm allowed to say Christmas, but 32:58 Christmas shortly after that, and other 33:02 related holidays. 33:06 And I don't know enough about the other 33:07 holidays to know when they land because 33:08 I'm I'm just I'm ignorant. Okay. 33:14 So, after the holidays, but before New 33:16 Year's, 33:18 the AI Salon and She Leads AI are 33:21 putting on AI festivists. And if you 33:24 could pull the 33:26 um what you call it up there, Brandon, 33:28 the uh the banner, 33:34 if you go to aifestivist.com, 33:36 there you go. Go to aifestivist.com. 33:42 Let me do that. Beautiful. 33:44 Um, go to afestivist.com. 33:47 You can register there, 33:50 but we've got a whole bunch of things. 33:51 We are looking for sponsors. You can 33:54 sponsor as an individual. We've got like 33:56 a friends and family sponsor thing. 33:58 We've also created a virtual trade show 34:01 booth. So, Festivist this year is going 34:04 to have a trade show booth. And I think 34:06 the the the trade show booths start at 34:08 like a hundred bucks or 50 bucks, like 34:10 something really cheap, and then I think 34:11 they go up from there. 34:13 um like just for a basic text listing is 34:16 really cheap and then if you want a 34:18 picture it's a bit more so we have a 34:20 trade booth thing. 34:22 Then we're also selling 34:26 the deluxe replay kit. So the deluxe 34:29 replay kit. So, if you don't know what 34:31 Festivus is, it's 24 hours of 34:35 programming on Friday and Saturday, 34:38 December 26th and 27th from 9:00 a.m. to 34:41 9:00 p.m. Pacific. Reg festivist last 34:44 year was awesome. It was incredible. 34:47 Okay. Ail produced by Brandon. Um, 34:53 it was really remarkable. So, we're 34:54 going to have speakers for all 12 hours 34:57 uh on each day. Um, 35:01 a fair amount of those presentations 35:04 will be hands-on teaching you how to do 35:07 stuff, teaching you how to build stuff. 35:09 You know what we're going to do? We're 35:11 going to do an hourong how to create a 35:13 digital twin workshop. 35:16 Um, 35:18 that gives you what the $995 35:22 Tony Robbins thing gave you. 35:25 So, so if you want if you want to get 35:28 what you could have gotten at the Tony 35:30 Robbins thing, but for free, you can do 35:33 that here. So, you're going to want to 35:34 buy the um the replay package. Okay? Get 35:38 it now because it's discounted. 35:40 So, go do that. And then the final thing 35:42 that I'll say about Festivus down toward 35:44 the bottom, and this is a request for 35:47 all of you. My request is there's an 35:50 area that says there that says help us 35:52 promote Festivus. And there's a 35:54 hyperlink 35:56 to a page with all of the graphics on 35:58 it. So, we've made you all these cool 36:00 graphics like this thing. And we've made 36:02 a bunch of social graphics that are I I 36:04 think they're called copy swap swap 36:08 boxes or something like that. You can or 36:10 swipe. I don't It doesn't [ __ ] 36:12 matter. Social media kids have a word 36:14 for it. It is a folder of files, 36:18 images that you can go share on social 36:20 media. So, go to aifestivist.com. scroll 36:23 down toward the bottom and say, "Help us 36:24 promote Festivus." Go get yourself some 36:27 graphics and go make some Twitter ads. 36:32 And if you're like, "I don't I don't do 36:33 Twitter ads, but I do X ads." 36:37 Okay, you're superior to me. Fine. Go 36:42 make some X ads. Go put some on 36:44 LinkedIn. Go put some on Facebook. 36:47 Put an ad in your Facebook feed and 36:50 watch the vitriol of your family and 36:53 friends eviscerate you for daring to 36:57 talk about AI in a way other than its 37:00 evilness. Swipe files. Yes, that's what 37:04 it is. Vicki knows. 37:06 Thank you, Reggie. Will do that. See, 37:09 Reggie's attitude is the right attitude. 37:12 people, you know, all of you people who 37:14 didn't respond with will do. 37:17 Wrong attitude. 37:19 What a great idea. Isn't that cool? 37:21 Swipe files. So, go to aifestivist.com, 37:24 scroll down, help us promote Festivus, 37:26 click on the hyperlink, and then there's 37:28 a bunch of cool [ __ ] It'll make you 37:31 look like you're like one of the one of 37:33 the in gang because you are 37:38 already promoting. I Oh, Suzanne, your 37:41 posts are great, by the way. Thank you. 37:42 I'm on it. Mary, Mary, beautiful. 37:45 We got to get the word out. 37:48 I mean, honest to God, the the the 37:52 quality, the level of education that 37:55 people are going to get in two days 37:58 between the holidays and new year for 38:01 free is insane. 38:04 It's absolutely insane. 38:08 Pavan will share with all my friend. 38:09 Terrific. Beep beep boop. Serenity now. 38:15 Calm down. Breathe. Yes. I'm on it. 38:19 Unbelievable. Terrific. I've invited 38:21 several behind the scenes. Beautiful. 38:23 Love it. 38:26 This is what I like to see. Some 38:27 enthusiasm. I can't talk too loud. I 38:30 feel like I'm some neighbor's going to 38:32 bang on the door. Shut the [ __ ] up 38:34 there, you big [ __ ] What are you 38:35 talking about? The [ __ ] AI. 38:44 I don't know. Whatever hair product I 38:46 got working, man, it's 38:49 it's a it's a banger. 38:53 Yeah. 38:56 I don't like to brag, but this is nearly 39:01 real. Oh, yeah. 39:10 Um, 39:12 did you bring your pink bow? I did not 39:14 bring my pink bow. 39:20 Nice wig. Thank you. It's actually four 39:22 tupes weaved together with um, spider 39:24 silk. 39:27 So, you can't you can't actually see the 39:28 boundaries. Uh, oh, I've done something 39:30 wrong. 39:31 >> No, that's okay. I I just also wanted to 39:34 remind you about Salons's Got Talent and 39:36 the special prize I left for you on the 39:38 contest page. 39:39 >> Oh, good. Okay, cool. Um, okay. So, 39:43 that's a whole another thing. Let's go. 39:47 So, wait. I've got to share. Let me 39:49 share. Let me go here. Let me go back 39:52 here. No, that's not right. Let me go 39:54 here. Let me go here. Let me go here. 39:56 Okay. Here. Let me go here. Calm down, 39:58 everybody. I'm going to share my tab. 40:01 I'm going to share that community event 40:03 tab. Beautiful. 40:05 Um, where's it announced? Is it in 40:07 community feed, Brandon? 40:11 >> Uh, challenges and competition. 40:14 >> Okay. 40:20 So if you go to Yan AI salon 40:26 and on the left hand side you scroll 40:27 down 40:30 um to play and create and there's 40:34 challenges and competitions. If you 40:36 click on that, Brandon 40:38 is hosting or has put together 40:42 Salon's Got Talent and it's a video and 40:45 I don't Why am I nervous to push this 40:47 play button? 40:49 I think I should be. 40:52 Oh boy. 40:54 Oh, it's not a video. Oh, it's a video. 40:58 Welcome to AI Salon's Got Talent. Good 41:00 luck to the contestants. 41:08 I I really have to redo my cameo to not 41:12 have that shitty boring shirt. 41:21 Be afraid. Be very afraid. Okay. Submit 41:24 your artwork here. So, here's what we're 41:25 going to do. from December 3rd, which is 41:29 today, until December 10th, you can 41:33 submit your work. So, we're we're doing 41:35 and it can be any kind of work you want. 41:37 There's no restrictions on it. There's 41:39 no theme to it. We just want work that 41:41 you're proud and excited to share, okay? 41:45 And you just submit it here and then 41:48 people are going to vote on it. We're 41:49 going to basically do a vote thing. It 41:51 can be songs. It could be poetry. It 41:53 could be um a movie. It can be It 41:56 doesn't matter. It can be an app that 41:58 you vibe coded about running through a 42:00 subway. Doesn't like can literally 42:02 anything. What I would encourage you to 42:04 do leaning into the AI mastermind 42:07 practice 42:09 is elevate your game. 42:12 Don't just submit anything. Don't just 42:14 submit something. Really think about 42:17 what could you submit for this? what 42:19 could you do that's really in line with 42:20 who you are, something you're really 42:22 proud of or something you really believe 42:24 deeply in and submit that. And don't be 42:28 afraid to submit multimodal entries like 42:31 maybe you submit a video game, but you 42:34 submit a video that talks about the 42:36 video game and maybe you submit, I don't 42:37 know, some sort of deck that explains 42:40 it. I don't know. Be creative with it. 42:43 Okay, Kyle is rocking that look. 42:47 Kyle's just tired and does not care. 42:54 But but thank you to Brandon for uh for 42:56 putting that together. Um it's a really 42:58 cool idea. So the the winners will be 43:02 announced uh during Festivus and the 43:05 overall winner wins an AI salon 43:07 mastermind practice uh membership for a 43:12 year. 43:14 Um, and uh, and that's really cool. I 43:17 like that. I think that's powerful. So, 43:20 you can submit more than one entry. Yes. 43:22 Well, I don't know. I didn't make up the 43:24 rules. Brandon, can they submit more 43:26 than one entry? 43:29 It's up for debate. Um, we're just kind 43:32 of building this boat as it's sailing 43:34 down the canal. Um, so I would say if 43:36 you have two different pieces that you 43:38 really feel uh compelled to enter and 43:40 they're different, you know, don't flood 43:42 the zone with a hundred different pseudo 43:44 tracks. But, you know, if you I would 43:46 say, yeah, with the more creativity, the 43:48 better. 43:49 >> Yeah. And quite frankly, I mean, it's 43:50 like, you know, you're gonna if you if 43:53 you submit too many pieces, you're going 43:55 to dilute your vote, right? So, you 43:57 know, you're going to split it across 43:59 things. But, yeah, I don't I don't see 44:01 any reason why not, especially if it's 44:03 different categories. 44:05 Right. Yeah. 44:06 >> And um by the way um while I'm here um 44:11 we have a V2 of the uh Subway Surfer 44:15 game if you'd like to. 44:16 >> Very nice. 44:18 >> We've been hard at work. Um 44:25 >> Instead of producing, he's been hard at 44:26 work making the subway 44:28 >> for Daniel. 44:29 >> So now we do we can jump on the rats. 44:32 >> Oh, wait. You're gonna you'll change the 44:34 uh share. 44:35 >> Oh. Uh yeah. Uh 44:40 >> so we've got holes to jump over now. 44:42 Don't fall in the tracks. 44:43 >> Go full screen. 44:46 >> I don't know how actually. 44:48 >> It's in the upper right, isn't it? 44:52 >> Yeah. The the out button. The up arrow 44:55 out button. 44:57 >> Oh. 44:59 Uh nope. I select and ask. 45:02 >> Yeah, 45:04 >> I don't know. Ask your producer. But the 45:07 point is, and the reason I wanted to 45:09 jump back up here and share this is 45:11 because we do now have, and I just need 45:14 to wait for one to show up. We do now 45:16 have a pizza. 45:18 >> That's awesome. 45:19 >> And the pizza rat is worth 500 points. 45:23 >> Of course, now that we're asking for a 45:25 pizza rat, we won't get one. There's a 45:26 pizza rat. 45:27 >> Pizza rat. Oh, nice. That's awesome. 45:33 I I shared this in the regulars. So if 45:35 you wanted challenge for the high score 45:39 >> Oh, that's a good idea. Reggie just said 45:41 uh people should share what tools they 45:43 used for their entries. I think that's 45:44 not a bad idea. 45:46 >> Yes, 45:48 Groovy. 45:49 All right. Fantastic. 45:53 Let me go to this window here. No, 45:57 that's the one I'm in. Go this window 46:00 here. Move that down there. 46:04 Beautiful. Do this here. All right, 46:08 we're back. So, AI Festivus 46:11 AI um AI's Got Talent. And then also, if 46:16 you're not a member of the AI salon, 46:19 go to the salon.ai, learn about what 46:22 we're up to. We are a community of AI 46:25 optimists and people that are trying to 46:30 figure this [ __ ] out. And just to say 46:31 that we're optimists doesn't mean that 46:33 we don't have doubts. 46:35 This is not blind optimism. 46:39 This is looking at 46:42 what the AI salon's about. What this 46:44 channel is about is acknowledging the 46:47 fact that AI is transformative and it's 46:51 not going away. Like that simple. No 46:54 judgment on it. 46:57 Just that the nature of what it is, the 47:01 powerfulness of it 47:03 and all this investment means that it's 47:06 transformative and it's not going away. 47:09 Okay? 47:11 So if it's transformative and it's not 47:13 going away, then we as humans have two 47:17 choices. 47:20 This is binary. I normally hate binary 47:23 thinking. 47:26 Binary thinking it's this or that. 47:28 Right? Genius of and is additive. Binary 47:31 thinking is this or that. 47:35 The one place 47:37 that I will accept binary thinking is if 47:40 AI is transformative and it's not going 47:42 away, then here's the two choices. And 47:46 they're quite simple. 47:48 You deal with it or you don't. 47:53 That's it. 47:57 It's not like you have to go to Stanford 48:00 and get a degree in math or not. No, you 48:03 deal with it or you don't. And what 48:05 dealing with it looks like is just 48:07 [ __ ] learn what it is. 48:10 [ __ ] play with it. Experiment with 48:13 it. Understand it. Not all of it. just 48:16 understand a piece of it. 48:21 If you choose not to engage with it, 48:25 then what ends up happening if it's 48:27 transformative and it's not going away, 48:30 it will transform your world 48:35 without you knowing what was coming. It 48:38 will completely blindside you and that's 48:40 going to suck. So, don't do that. 48:43 Keep coming back here. The the purpose 48:45 of this channel is one 48:50 hair advice, 48:52 hair inspiration. 48:55 Right. The second goal of this channel 48:59 is for you to just be in the 49:01 conversation. 49:03 Just be in the conversation. Be chatting 49:06 with people here. Hey, what are you 49:07 doing? How'd you do that? You doing 49:09 anything good, Kyle? What's all this 49:12 nonsense about? Whatever's the news of 49:14 the day. Just being in the conversation 49:17 just means that you're aware that 49:19 there's this thing 49:21 and it's coming. It's coming. It's 49:23 coming. It's coming and it's here and 49:25 it's here and it's here and it's here. 49:30 And if you're one of those at this point 49:33 minority people 49:35 that are paying attention to this, one 49:38 of the things that we found in here is 49:40 that AI rather than being this thing 49:42 that we have to compete against 49:46 us versus the machine, binary thinking, 49:49 AI bad, human good, 49:53 there's another way. There's an 49:55 enlightened way. 49:57 AI is a thing that is transformative and 50:00 it's not going away and I'm a human with 50:03 ideas 50:05 and rather than competing with an AI 50:08 that's getting increasingly powerful 50:12 like going to be more powerful than me 50:15 in fact I would say a year and a half 50:18 two years ago AI was more powerful than 50:21 me for me that ship has already sailed 50:27 Rather than me competing with that, what 50:30 I can do and what all of us can do is we 50:33 can say, "Wait a minute. 50:35 I'm the captain now. I'm the captain 50:38 now. 50:41 I'm driving this ship." And the ship is, 50:45 in my case, Kyle Shannon. 50:48 And I get to say, "Well, who am I? What 50:51 do I believe in? What do I like? 50:54 What's the change I want to make in the 50:56 world? How do I want to do that? Do I 50:58 want to be creative? Do I want to? 51:00 Right. 51:01 And then when I have that idea, now I 51:04 can just take AI, strap it on like a 51:08 jetpack, 51:11 and it amplifies. It pushes me forward. 51:15 It's not me versus AI. It's me amplified 51:18 by AI. 51:23 What was I made for? Yeah. Listen to the 51:27 Barbie song. 51:31 I used to 51:43 waffles I made for. 51:48 As strange as it sounds, I think that is 51:51 our job in the future. 51:54 To be a Barbie. I was on there and he 51:57 said the job our job in the future is to 51:59 be a Barbie doll. 52:02 I thought that was kind of silly. I 52:03 didn't understand that. I don't even 52:05 like pink. 52:08 I I I don't understand what he was 52:09 talking about. 52:12 Our 52:14 job is going to be answer the question, 52:16 what was I made for? 52:21 And you will now have the tools and the 52:24 capacity 52:28 to do that. 52:31 Oh, but I don't have enough resources. I 52:32 don't know. My idea is an application. 52:35 And I have never learned a line of 52:37 programming in my life. I'm not very 52:39 technical. I'll tell you that. I'm not 52:41 very technical. 52:48 Anything you want to do, you're going to 52:50 be able to do. 52:52 So, what are you going to do? 52:55 Figure that [ __ ] out. Start now. Daily 52:58 daily practice. The AI salon mastermind 53:02 practice is a structured framework. We 53:05 created a nine-stage framework for 53:08 designing and practicing a daily 53:11 practice 53:13 that centers around the human first and 53:17 AI as the augment 53:19 as the amplifier. 53:21 All right, Weaver, what's happening? 53:24 We're shaking. What's going down? We got 53:27 De Don Lrod 53:30 Coupe in the house. That is a great 53:32 name. 53:34 name is Don Lrod Coupe. How may I help 53:37 you? 53:39 I hope you're here to fix my hair, Don, 53:41 because this is a 53:44 This is 53:46 This is AI generated. Okay, 53:51 do you want to know the state of AI? 53:53 This is AI generated. 53:56 That's where we are. 54:01 Good lord, it's a mess. 54:06 We love your hair. 54:17 Oh, let's see. I'm using that as my 54:20 excuse for hearing out. My hair is AI 54:23 generated 54:25 or just this is AI generated. Anything 54:27 that's bad, this is AI generated. 54:31 I I cannot be held responsible. I use 54:34 chat GPT to create this hairstyle. 54:38 It's pretty good. 54:44 I'm sorry, sweetheart. This was AI 54:46 generated and I'm on the free version. 54:49 That's even better. 54:52 This is Yeah. Sorry. No, this was the 54:54 free version of Perplexity. Yeah. Yeah. 54:57 No, I know. I know. It's just for 55:00 another 24 hours and then uh we'll be 55:02 back to normal. We'll have a normal 55:05 Sears robot carpet salesman kind of 55:08 situation. But right now, we've got 55:11 chaos. 55:13 Oh man, where can I find instructions 55:16 for the competition? If you go to the AI 55:18 salon, so go to community.thesalon.ai 55:21 AI. 55:23 And then down the left hand side in the 55:25 play section, there's a couple of 55:27 sections before I think the play section 55:29 is number three. There's challenges and 55:32 competitions. So, it's like two two 55:34 spaces down in the play section is 55:37 challenges and competitions. 55:40 How would you even prompt it? 55:49 I I'm an old man. Make me look hip. 56:03 Oh god. 56:08 All right, kids. Listen. I gotta get the 56:10 [ __ ] out of here. I gotta get to bed. I 56:12 got Listen, 56:15 I got musicals to sell. 56:18 Well, I got one. 56:20 I'm not a broker. If If you're out there 56:23 and you're like, "I've got a musical, 56:24 Kyle. Could you go sell mine, too?" No. 56:30 I've got one musical I'm trying to 56:31 produce. 56:33 You know how hard this is? Do you know 56:35 how much the world wants another musical 56:38 right now? 56:41 Nobody wants another musical. I'll tell 56:43 you, did I tell you this? Um, my the the 56:47 woman that I'm staying at, Kathy, her 56:50 daughter, Sallyanne, 56:53 she's funny. She's this this is from my 56:56 wife's family, so they're from the 56:58 Bronx. So, they're they're, you know, 56:59 they're they're New Yorkers, right? 57:03 So So, so Sally's really smart and she 57:06 knows all about culture and stuff like 57:07 that. She knows storytelling. She knows 57:09 novels and books and things. So I'm I'm 57:11 showing her the musical and I'm we're 57:14 going through the songs and about the 57:16 fourth song in Sally goes, "You know, I 57:20 [ __ ] hate musicals." She goes, "This 57:23 is the kind of song that if I were in 57:25 the Broadway theater and I heard this 57:26 thing spin up, I'd walk out." She goes, 57:29 "This is definitely a Broadway show. 57:32 This should be on Broadway." I just 57:33 [ __ ] hate musicals. 57:38 That's the best. 57:40 So good. 57:47 Source camp. Um, I would like another 57:49 musical, please. Listen, we need a 57:51 Hamilton replacement. We really do. We 57:54 need a Hamilton replacement. Sydney is 57:57 the next Hamilton. Okay? 58:00 So, Sydney's going to be it. So, I'm 58:02 here in New York. I'm here in the Big 58:03 Apple talking to big-time producers. 58:07 We don't have a path. We don't have a 58:09 plan yet. This is a this is a working 58:11 meeting. We're collaborating on what the 58:13 [ __ ] we need to do to get this thing 58:15 mounted in some way. 58:19 And 58:21 and I'll tell you 58:24 I'll tell you my dream. I went to the 58:26 public tonight, 58:29 the public theater 58:32 right down there on St. Mark's place and 58:37 I took me some pictures of it and I went 58:39 inside. Uh-oh. 58:41 What's happening? Oh, 58:45 physical dexterity challenge. Hang on. 58:51 I took pictures of it. So, 58:55 my dream would be we workshop it 58:57 somewhere. Well, I I'll just say this 58:59 out to the universe. Hamilton 59:02 workshopped at the 52nd Street project. 59:06 So, I could see us doing like a, you 59:08 know, a small 59:11 uh what do you call it? A a uh a modest 59:16 workshop at something like 52nd Street 59:19 Project where some producers get to come 59:22 in and hear the words and hear the songs 59:24 and see the movement, see the actors and 59:27 see Sydney come to life. 59:30 And then how I'm imagining it, we go 59:32 from there to the public 59:35 because the public is just it's the 59:37 public theater. It's where Hamilton 59:39 started. 59:40 So Hamilton started at 52nd Street 59:43 Project as a workshop. 59:46 Well, actually, Hamilton started as a 59:50 song that was sung for President Obama 59:56 that made such a racket that they had to 59:59 turn it into a musical. I I assume Lyn 1:00:02 Manuel intended to turn it into a 1:00:04 musical anyway, but he had a little bit 1:00:06 of a leg up there, plus a Tony for In 1:00:09 the Heights before that. So, for for 1:00:11 what it's worth, he was doing okay. 1:00:14 So, so we're going to do 52nd Street 1:00:16 Project workshop. Then we're going to go 1:00:18 we're going to do a production at the 1:00:20 public. 1:00:22 It's gonna go at the public and then 1:00:24 we're going to full [ __ ] full send to 1:00:25 Broadway, baby. 1:00:29 That's the That's the dream. That's 1:00:30 where we're [ __ ] going. All right. 1:00:35 Now, you might look at me and say, 1:00:38 "Kyle, 1:00:40 that's a ridiculous dream." 1:00:44 Yes. 1:00:45 Next thing you know, Kyle and Suno will 1:00:47 be scoring in KTO 3. Maybe. Maybe I'll 1:00:53 be there to see it. I have faith. Oh, I 1:00:54 have faith. I'm really excited. I'm 1:00:56 really excited. It's just when I say 1:00:59 stuff like that out loud, I'm like, 1:01:00 "Good Lord, that's ridiculous to say." 1:01:03 And at the same time, why not? 1:01:08 Why the [ __ ] not? 1:01:12 It's a story that should be told. It's a 1:01:14 It's a good story. It's good songs. 1:01:18 If the woman that's If the woman that's 1:01:20 like, "I hate [ __ ] musicals and this 1:01:23 is the song I would walk out on, but 1:01:24 yes, this should be on Broadway. These 1:01:26 sound just like Broadway, then [ __ ] 1:01:28 let's put it on Broadway. We want her to 1:01:31 walk out of this musical." And here's 1:01:32 the secret. She loves musicals. That's 1:01:35 what I found out from another family 1:01:36 member, Sallyanne. 1:01:39 You don't [ __ ] hate musicals. All the 1:01:41 musicals that Melissa saw, you told her 1:01:43 to see because you saw them and loved 1:01:45 them. So, you love musicals deep down. 1:01:48 Liar. 1:01:56 Important question. Are we going for 1:01:58 another subway ride together? I will do 1:02:02 I'll do I'll go live tomorrow uh in the 1:02:04 subway. I think the subway rides are fun 1:02:07 because I just realized everyone on the 1:02:08 on the subway is on their phones and I 1:02:11 assume not everyone's live on the 1:02:14 subway, but I'm like, are they going to 1:02:17 know that I'm live? I'm like, no, 1:02:18 everyone's got their phones up. So, I 1:02:20 just pretend like I'm looking at 1:02:22 stuff and I'm sure it's illegal as hell. 1:02:25 I'm, you know, I there's going to be a 1:02:28 knock by the feds on the door. Are you 1:02:31 Mr. Kyle Shan? Yeah, we are you you're 1:02:36 affiliated with the uh artificial 1:02:39 intelligence learning laboratory. Is 1:02:41 that that's the case? 1:02:44 And I don't know why this New York cop 1:02:46 sounds like a Midwest farmer. 1:02:52 But that's what you get tonight. I'm a 1:02:55 little tired. 1:02:58 All right. Kristen Chennowith. 1:03:00 Um, no. I don't think she's right for 1:03:02 it. Um, Lauren Allred is the is the is 1:03:07 the woman that um I had in my mind when 1:03:11 I wrote Sydney. 1:03:13 Um, she's the one that sang she's the 1:03:16 voice of the the song the u Never Never 1:03:21 Enough Never Enough in Greatest Showman. 1:03:24 Um, she was on Britain's Got Talent 1:03:26 singing that and kind of revealing that 1:03:28 she sang that song. She's she's amazing. 1:03:30 Um but then we just watched um there 1:03:34 there's a musical there's a documentary 1:03:36 out right now about Hamilton about the 1:03:39 woman that that initiated the 1:03:43 one of the lead roles. 1:03:46 I forget her name. Rebecca someone um 1:03:48 she could be really good in it. Um 1:03:50 there's a woman a young woman that was 1:03:53 in In the Heights, a Hispanic woman that 1:03:56 could be good for it. Um, 1:03:59 I don't know. A lot of people could be 1:04:01 good for Sydney because 1:04:04 Sydney is really just manifested in 1:04:07 Kellen the tech reporter's mind. So, 1:04:09 whatever he thinks she should be, that's 1:04:11 what she is. You know, like it is. Um, 1:04:16 you can just pretend you're FaceTiming. 1:04:18 Oh, that's a good idea. That's true. Oh, 1:04:20 yeah, Mom. 1:04:22 Yeah, Mom. Good to see you, too. 1:04:29 You know the Sally, 1:04:33 you know that Sallyanne said she hated 1:04:35 musicals, 1:04:37 but but she keeps going to musicals. If 1:04:39 she hates them, why does she go? 1:04:44 Glad to see the Glad to see Broadway 1:04:47 moving away from Marvel. Well, they got 1:04:51 to produce my play to move away from 1:04:52 Marvel, but yes, I agree. All right, I'm 1:04:55 going to go. Um, peace out everyone. 1:04:57 Hope you had fun tonight. Bye.