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12/3/2025 - Preparing for a Future Where AI Makes Work Optional

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NYC - In the prison cell. From subway to this. Oh, and AI. Kyle Shannon questions how long the "human in the loop" approach to AI will remain relevant, predicting a future where AI's capabilities far surpass our own. He shares that his primary concern isn't the technology itself, but the potential for a widespread societal loss of purpose when work becomes optional. This leads to a thoughtful discussion on the likelihood of Universal Basic Income and how quickly society can adapt to major shifts. In response, Kyle urges viewers to start cultivating creativity, critical thinking, and personal projects now, before they're needed. He argues that developing a strong sense of purpose is the best preparation for a world where AI can execute almost any task. The stream also features a fun, spontaneous moment as collaborator Brandon develops a playable 8-bit subway rat game live. 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/5460595014369280 #AI,#FutureOfWork,#AGI,#UBI,#Creativity,#TechEthics,#SocietalImpact,#CriticalThinking Chapters: 00:00:00 New York City Intro 00:02:55 The Subway Rat Game 00:05:49 Discussing AI Bots 00:09:05 The Future of Work 00:12:20 When AI Gets Too Good 00:15:24 The Fear of Lost Purpose 00:18:25 Reinventing Ourselves 00:21:40 The Importance of Creating 00:24:10 Debating Basic Income 00:29:51 The End of Janky AI 00:32:33 Announcing AI Festivus 00:36:05 Promoting the Event 00:40:10 Salon's Got Talent 00:44:08 Subway Surfer V2 00:46:40 The AI Salon Philosophy 00:50:35 Me Amplified by AI 00:52:50 Finding Your Purpose 00:56:14 Producing a Musical 00:59:00 The Broadway Dream 01:02:00 Future Subway Ride

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0:07 Oh yeah, good people.
0:12 Good people of the Tik Tok. What is
0:16 happening?
0:18 What is shaking? What is going down?
0:22 Look at that hair.
0:24 That's got some New York City grime in
0:27 it.
0:29 It's got some sublace scunge.
0:33 Oh man, are you doing some painting and
0:35 decorating? Well, the ladder was there
0:38 last night and I moved it and it just
0:40 looked like I was in prison. So now it
0:42 looks like I'm on a construction site,
0:44 which I think is more interesting.
0:48 If I were actually in prison, that would
0:50 be interesting. But, you know, it's just
0:52 a new apartment.
0:56 And by new, you know, it was new in
0:59 1947.
1:18 And breathe. Everybody breathe.
1:21 Welcome.
1:23 Welcome to the AI learning lab.
1:27 We've got one person on Tik Tok or
1:29 YouTube.
1:31 We got six people here,
1:34 but we're live on YouTube. If you want
1:35 to head over there, you can. We got
1:38 stuff going on. Um Yan Brandon, um any
1:43 free apartment
1:46 in New York that's not ratinfested is
1:48 good. Seriously, man. This the place is
1:51 really nice. It's a nice building.
1:53 Um, and it's yeah, like a free place to
1:56 to sleep. Although tomorrow I got
1:59 nothing. So I think tomorrow I'm going
2:02 to an event at Lincoln Center and then I
2:04 assume I'm going to drinks after
2:08 and
2:10 then after that I have to go up to the
2:12 Bronx,
2:14 come back down
2:17 uh in the morning for a morning meeting.
2:22 Yeah.
2:23 So, we'll see. I'll figure it out.
2:27 Um,
2:36 all right. Let's see. Let's switch the
2:39 cameras.
2:41 Um, one funny thing that that young
2:44 Brandon did
2:47 is while I was doing my Subway Live,
2:53 Brandon was vibe coding.
3:02 Brandon vibe coded a Subway rat game.
3:06 So, while we didn't see any real rats,
3:10 Um, some virtual rats were harmed in the
3:13 making of this game. Brandon, you want
3:15 to come up here and show your show your
3:17 game and tell the good people how they
3:19 can make a rat game?
3:21 >> Yeah. So, as you were sitting there h
3:24 trying to uh not awkwardly film people
3:27 on the reverse camera, uh, I was and
3:30 while we were going through our signal
3:31 losses, I'm like, I bet this this feels
3:33 like a video game where you just have to
3:35 go through the subway system and avoid
3:37 rats. I mean, it's basically Pitfall or
3:40 Super Mario with the the mushroom guys,
3:43 but I as asked to make an 8-bit game
3:44 where a player has to run through an NYC
3:46 subway system. This is Gemini, by the
3:48 way. Uh, jumping over rats and fighting
3:50 other passengers. Gameplay should feel
3:52 like pitfall. Call it Subway Surfer. So,
3:54 it did. And I had to give it um one
3:57 little quick redirection here. But this
3:59 is the second attempt. And uh it's
4:03 pretty good. It's pretty playable. I
4:05 mean, it's very basic, but you can jump
4:06 on top of the subways cars. You have to
4:09 you can shoot the other passengers uh
4:11 just like in real life. And uh you can
4:14 jump over top of the rat or if you jump
4:17 on top
4:17 >> you can't jump over Yeah, you can jump
4:19 over the rat.
4:19 >> No, but on it and kill it.
4:22 >> Uh no, it will it will uh give you
4:24 rabies and you will lose a life.
4:26 >> Well, you Oh, you know, here's two two
4:29 changes, Dad. One is you should be able
4:30 to jump on it and kill it, but you
4:32 should also if you kill a rat with
4:35 that's carrying pizza, a slice of pizza,
4:38 you get a bonus point.
4:40 >> Yeah, you should be able to pick up the
4:41 pizza needed or something like that.
4:43 >> All right. Well, if you can handle the
4:44 Well, we're going to switch the Tik Tok
4:46 cams because you don't have your
4:47 construction paper, but uh in between
4:50 producing, I might uh
4:54 >> I might uh come up with a round two. And
4:56 and this is just on Gemini Canvas. And
4:58 what I can do is I can share this. I'll
4:59 show this in irregulars once we uh once
5:01 it's updated.
5:03 >> Okay. Once you once you get it to world
5:05 class.
5:06 >> Yes.
5:10 Um Okay. So, uh we'll wait for more
5:14 people to get in here for I'll I'll talk
5:16 promo stuff. Um
5:20 who's got any questions? I had a really
5:22 AI AI AI. We've made it possible to get
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5:45 AI summary. AI learning lesson. Ask
5:47 about AI.
5:50 Who made the AI summary bot?
5:54 Who made it?
5:57 Who made it and made it come to my
5:59 lives? I like it. I don't think it's a
6:02 bad thing. I think it's a good thing. I
6:03 just want to know. Hey, Reggie, did you
6:05 make the AI bot? I appreciate you
6:08 looking for a rat even though you missed
6:10 your turn to stop. Yeah, I went I went
6:12 two blocks I went two blocks past the
6:16 apartment, Danielle.
6:24 It wasn't just an ad. It's a protection
6:26 of an asset. But okay, it's still
6:28 marketing. So, here's the deal. If you
6:30 want to be in here, you're called AI
6:32 Entertainment. This is the AI learning
6:33 lab. If you want to be in here and you
6:35 want to support other people and
6:36 figuring out how to use AI, things like
6:38 that, great. Um, but just throwing up
6:40 marketing stuff's not cool. Um, I don't
6:43 even see anything from the bot really.
6:46 Oh, maybe it's a So, let's see. the the
6:49 AI bot is right above it's right below
6:53 it's actually right below AI
6:54 Entertainment's thing that I yelled at
6:55 them for.
6:57 Um we've made it possible to get a
7:00 domain in AI entertainment. Look for
7:02 that post and then what I see is right
7:04 below that is AI summary and then it
7:08 says AI learning lesson ask about AI.
7:12 I saw it then it disappeared. It may
7:13 just be you. Oh, maybe it's a Tik Tok
7:16 thing. I don't know. I like
7:20 if it's a Tik Tok thing, it's kind of
7:22 useless because it's like it's
7:24 summarizing what I've already said and
7:26 then telling me to recap what I said,
7:29 which if I'm if I am completely
7:34 incoherent might not be a bad thing.
7:38 Oh, no. I I found it and pinned it for a
7:41 second. Oh, okay. Vicki, you're on the
7:43 Tik Tok side tonight. Yay.
7:47 Um,
7:54 who's got questions about AI? Who's got
7:58 questions? It's Dar. Dar the AI star or
8:01 Tar Dar the Tik Tok star.
8:06 Um,
8:10 it's so funny. Last year I was so
8:12 excited about 12 Days of Shipmas.
8:15 So 12 days of new chatbt products and
8:19 there was all this speculation, all this
8:21 excitement and they're doing the same
8:23 thing this year and no one seems to give
8:25 a [ __ ]
8:27 AI seems to have lost their or open AI
8:31 seems to have lost their way a bit.
8:32 Google seems to be flying high right
8:34 now.
8:39 Um, this is something I said on uh we
8:44 did today. We did the AI readiness
8:46 project podcast had a really good guest
8:48 on
8:51 and after the podcast we continued the
8:54 conversation a little bit and and
8:55 something struck me that I'm I'm feeling
9:00 and the thing that I'm feeling
9:04 is that there are a lot of folks
9:09 in our community there are a lot of
9:11 folks in the AI world
9:14 and then I think there's a lot of folks
9:16 in general
9:24 that are talking about
9:27 our role with AI as
9:31 a requirement
9:38 to get good work.
9:45 And
9:48 I do not believe that to be true.
9:51 Um, at present it is, but what I'm what
9:56 I'm starting to notice is that there's a
9:58 lot of people talking about
10:01 human in the loop was the early version
10:04 of it, but but talking a lot about,
10:08 you know, we're there to refine and
10:11 curate and do all this stuff with the
10:12 AI.
10:15 I I don't think that's going to be our
10:17 job for long. I I mean I think it's
10:20 going to be two years, three years,
10:25 but when when we hit AGI and when we hit
10:31 recursive self-improvement where the AGI
10:34 gets better quickly,
10:39 uh these these tools are going to get
10:41 remarkably good.
10:44 Um,
10:47 and so there's a part of me that's like
10:48 I'm I'm like preemptively sad about
10:51 that.
10:53 And I'm not sad because we as humans
10:55 won't figure it out. We'll figure it
10:57 out. We're humans. We'll we'll find new
11:00 new ways to be miserable about
11:02 something.
11:10 We'll find new ways to to, you know,
11:15 find things to do.
11:19 But I I guess the reason I'm saying this
11:21 is just kind of do an inventory of how
11:24 you know your language, how you talk.
11:26 Maybe if you've put together programs or
11:28 trainings or things like that, if
11:30 they're kind of based on the premise
11:31 that we're always going to be necessary,
11:35 um
11:37 just keep out of your peripheral vision,
11:41 pay attention to activity that might
11:43 start to feel like that's changing.
11:45 Don't get don't get stuck in that
11:47 because I think I I think a lot of
11:49 people are going to get stuck in that
11:50 and and it's going to blindside them.
11:53 So, I know that's kind of a depressing
11:55 thought, but
11:59 and then and then and then I start to
12:01 wonder, wow, what's what's life going to
12:03 be like when we have tools that are so
12:05 good
12:07 that it is we can choose to participate
12:09 with them, right? We'll always have that
12:11 option. I mean, we can always go back to
12:14 writing with pens and papers. We can
12:15 always go back to writing with a word
12:17 processor. We can always go back to just
12:18 writing with bake basic chatpt.
12:22 But imagine we're in a stage where you
12:26 can speak a feature film into existence
12:28 and it's great. You can speak a novel
12:30 into existence and it's great. You can
12:33 speak a business plan into existence and
12:36 it's perfect and nuanced and
12:39 sophisticated and easy to understand
12:43 and instantly implementable. And in
12:45 fact, not only does it write a business
12:48 plan, an agent starts executing it. Me
12:53 and my family were talking about the
12:54 Jetsons. Yeah, Carolyn. I you know the
13:00 we're kind of living. We're close
13:04 like it's coming faster than I thought
13:07 it would. We don't quite have flying
13:10 cars yet, but we certainly have drones
13:12 and we've got, you know, drones that
13:14 look like cars. Um, the Tesla Roadster
13:18 is apparently going to have some sort of
13:19 levitating air burst kind of technology
13:24 that will blast it off the ground, which
13:27 who knows what the hell's purpose that
13:29 serves other than it's cool. Uh, so
13:32 we're we're close on the flying cars,
13:34 but but yeah, like
13:38 we're surprisingly close to the Jetsons.
13:42 The humanoid robots probably within two
13:45 years are going to be good enough good
13:47 enough to have in our homes.
13:50 You know, there'll be a novelty at first
13:52 and your rich douchebag friend down the
13:54 block will have the first robot and
13:57 everybody will go over to visit visit it
13:59 and pretend like they don't think that
14:02 Jason's a [ __ ]
14:04 just so they can see his robot. They'll
14:07 be like, "I'll wait for the next
14:08 version." Yeah, I don't need a robot.
14:13 And then and then the next Christmas
14:15 under the tree will be four robots, one
14:17 for each kid and the grandmother.
14:21 And the grandmother has the special
14:23 companionship upgrade
14:27 with little hard eyes.
14:32 Grandma's a little lonely.
14:43 My god,
14:50 I'm I am a little punchy as they say.
14:53 That's pretty funny though.
14:56 Um,
15:00 but we
15:03 the so when we were talking to these two
15:05 guys tonight that were asking about AI
15:07 and they were they were genuinely
15:09 curious. One was a creative director in
15:11 an agency. One worked for Door Dash as
15:13 some sort of business development guy.
15:16 And the creative director at one point,
15:17 you know, said, "Do you have any fears?
15:19 What's your fear?"
15:21 And my biggest fear
15:24 with AI
15:27 is that we we go to this place where
15:34 the machines can do everything.
15:39 And and you know this is
15:42 the place that I'm talking about is
15:44 probably like seven to 10 years away.
15:46 But let's assume we've gone through the
15:48 the rough patch of getting to universal
15:52 basic income or universal high income is
15:56 what Elon Musk calls it. Universal basic
15:58 compute is what Sam Alman calls it
16:01 doesn't [ __ ] matter at some point
16:05 assuming the trajectory continues the
16:09 productivity is going to be higher than
16:10 the people required to like right now
16:12 here's productivity here's the people
16:14 required to make it and at some point
16:17 those two things are going to do this
16:19 they're going to diverge and if they
16:20 diverge quickly enough
16:22 um you know we'll end up with universal
16:25 basic income and all that sort of
16:27 And so I think that's going to happen.
16:29 Who knows when? Doesn't matter. But the
16:33 risk
16:35 as people get laid off and they don't
16:37 have places to work and then as that gap
16:40 is big enough that we actually get taken
16:43 care of to some degree, that we have
16:46 enough money that that there's enough
16:48 prosperity
16:50 on the upside to make sure that we're
16:52 all taken care of.
16:54 What do we do?
17:00 If you just think, I'm just going to sit
17:02 around in a hammock, that's going to get
17:03 old really quick, right? One of the most
17:06 dangerous time in a person's life is
17:09 when they lose purpose.
17:11 When you lose purpose, right? When a
17:13 spouse dies,
17:15 when you know you leave a company or
17:18 sell a company. I sold agency.com in
17:21 2002. I was depressed for a decade.
17:26 a decade.
17:28 I tried to start new businesses, but my
17:30 heart wasn't in it.
17:32 I lost my purpose
17:35 and
17:38 a huge amount of people losing their
17:41 purpose. That's the thing that scares me
17:44 the most. The fear of AI is holding many
17:46 back. I wonder if they still fear
17:48 Photoshop. Yeah, I mean, Rej, that's a
17:50 good point. I mean it's it's just a
17:52 technology but I I think the fear of AI
17:55 is is more fundamental
17:58 than just another technology right the
18:01 worldwide web was just another
18:03 technology Photoshop to a degree was
18:05 just another technology the internet was
18:08 profound connecting many computers right
18:10 that allowed for Moors law to or uh uh
18:13 the metaf is it the metaf effect the the
18:17 network effect
18:19 to happen.
18:21 So that was pretty profound. The
18:23 personal computer itself was pretty
18:25 profound. The computer itself was pretty
18:26 profound.
18:28 But AI is a different thing. AI is for
18:32 the first time
18:35 not making the work we do more
18:38 efficient. It is doing the work right.
18:41 It has got the knowledge. It has got the
18:43 skills. It has got the capacity.
18:46 And I know if you're looking at it
18:48 through today's lens, you're like, "Ah,
18:50 it's very janky, Kyle. We still need a
18:53 lot of humans in there to fix it up,
18:54 right? It's not it's not perfect."
18:58 And I don't know why you talk like that.
19:00 But you do. I mean, that's just who you
19:02 are.
19:04 And nobody likes that face,
19:07 but that's on you.
19:11 Well, that's rude.
19:15 I don't know why you look like Al
19:16 Franken. I don't
19:26 um we have to reinvent ourselves. We do.
19:28 We have to reinvent ourselves. And and I
19:31 think that
19:36 what excites me about this community is
19:38 that this community is
19:41 are people who are excited to reinvent
19:43 themselves.
19:45 Um
19:50 I don't hear a lot of people talking
19:52 about this. I don't hear a lot of people
19:53 talking about it. AI summary AI's future
19:56 impact debate its risks.
20:02 Does everyone see AI summary right now?
20:05 I I bet it is a Tik Tok thing. It must
20:08 be a Tik Tok thing.
20:10 It's kind of annoying.
20:13 Disney princess. Hello, Disney princess.
20:15 Tobias is in the house. Nope, not seeing
20:17 it. Okay, interesting. Yeah, that's just
20:20 to me then. All right, fine.
20:26 Okay, let's see what happens in the next
20:28 5 years. It's not light years away.
20:31 It ain't that far away.
20:34 Five years.
20:37 It ain't that far away.
20:42 And here's the thing. If you're in a job
20:44 right now,
20:46 if you're in a job or if you're in a
20:48 mental mode
20:52 where you're just like, I just punch the
20:54 clock. I just let them tell me what to
20:56 do.
20:59 If you're not engaged engaged
21:01 critically
21:03 crit critical thinking wise in your job.
21:07 If your job is like a cog in a wheel
21:13 just repetitive data entry or something
21:16 like that.
21:20 And and
21:22 you're not outside of work engaging
21:24 those muscles of creativity and critical
21:29 thinking and self-reflection
21:32 and coming up with ideas and being
21:36 ambitious about them and being curious
21:38 and and
21:41 creating.
21:43 If you're not in the habit of creating,
21:46 that's what I would work on right now.
21:51 And you can use AI, but I like I almost
21:54 I almost feel like it doesn't [ __ ]
21:56 matter.
21:58 Like like Vickiy's got her whole 3D
22:01 printing thing. And I mean Vickiy's got
22:03 a ton of other stuff, but like the 3D
22:06 printing thing is being augmented by AI.
22:09 She can make models herself now quickly
22:11 using AI and tossing them into tools and
22:14 things like that. So there's
22:18 there's cool stuff, but there but like
22:21 she she can also just do her, you know,
22:24 CAD skills and or or just go to
22:26 Thingiverse and get models and print
22:28 them and choose filaments and, you know,
22:31 she's geeked out enough on the core
22:33 technology that she knows how they work
22:35 and she knows what filaments look like
22:37 and what they do.
22:39 So she can just be in a in a creator
22:42 mode and mindset
22:45 without having to think about AI.
22:48 And
22:50 if you if you don't have that in your
22:52 life, if you don't have some version of
22:55 pick up the crocheting needles, write a
22:57 novel, um start a business, start a
23:00 invent a new kind of pizza,
23:03 uh invent a new kind of math,
23:07 I don't know.
23:09 I'd get that going. I'd get that going.
23:11 Feels important to me because otherwise
23:14 if work becomes optional and you opt out
23:17 of it and you don't have purpose, you
23:19 don't have a sense of who you are and
23:21 what you want,
23:24 I think it's going to suck.
23:27 Math on pizzas. Well, they are pie
23:33 3.1415 if you know what I mean.
23:36 It's a different kind of pie.
23:40 It doesn't have an E. You see, that's
23:42 the comedy part. You thought I was
23:44 talking about pizza pie. I was just
23:47 talking because it's round. It's a
23:49 circle. 360 degrees. 3.145.
23:55 Oh, I love math comedy.
24:00 Dundler Clump. Dunder Clump. UBI will
24:04 never arrive in the USA. If that type of
24:07 mechanism would exist, there would be no
24:10 trillionaires, billionaires in the USA
24:11 today. Um, here's where I'll push back
24:14 on you, Dunderclump.
24:17 I guess is that a Dunder Mifflin thing?
24:19 Because it's a very funny name. Um,
24:23 first of all, using the word never in
24:26 the age of AI, I think is there's my
24:30 first there's my first signal.
24:32 um that that might just be a trope that
24:35 that that you're just saying. You're
24:37 just saying that [ __ ] Um I don't
24:40 disagree with you that the billionaires
24:43 and trillionaires
24:45 have no interest, zero interest in
24:48 giving up any of their upside
24:50 profitability. However,
24:53 do you remember back in 2020 around
24:56 March
24:59 when on a single day or maybe it was two
25:03 days the entire globe
25:07 decided to stop going to work
25:12 and we just did it.
25:14 There was a precipitating event
25:18 that had enough risk in it
25:21 that we took a hundred years of
25:25 behavior and we just changed it
25:29 overnight. Boom.
25:34 If
25:37 AI's gain in productivity is linear
25:42 and it really doesn't reduce the
25:43 workforce by much, let's say that, you
25:46 know, here's our GDP growth and then AI
25:50 causes a 2% dip, incremental dip on top
25:54 of
25:55 existing unemployment. So we go from
25:58 whatever four to six
26:02 and and you know
26:05 GDP is going like that. You're
26:08 absolutely right. You're absolutely
26:10 right.
26:12 If if it if it takes as long as the
26:17 industrial revolution, so when the steam
26:19 engine came out, it was 40 or 50 years
26:22 before 80% of farmers were eliminated.
26:27 So that's like what is it two and a half
26:28 generations? Is it 20 years for a
26:30 generation? 20 25 years. I don't know. I
26:32 don't know how that works. I think it's
26:33 20th. Aren't there five generations in a
26:35 century?
26:38 So over two and a half generations,
26:42 the steam engine replaced 80% of jobs.
26:45 Now, if we're in a situation where
26:48 productivity is going like this and the
26:51 amount of people needed to do it go like
26:53 this and then all of a sudden this goes
26:56 up dramatically and this goes down
26:58 dramatically, that gap,
27:02 we were there. And if it does that
27:06 in the course of three years, even five
27:08 years,
27:10 if we go from 4% to 10 to 20 quickly,
27:16 that's effectively an economically
27:18 catastrophic event. So
27:22 industry will not be able to keep all
27:24 the profit. Government will have to step
27:26 in. And what what will likely happen is
27:29 government will step in and say who's
27:32 who is the beneficiary of this increase
27:36 and they will tax them is my guess.
27:40 Um David Shapiro if you want to look at
27:43 um some of his work on post labor
27:45 economics is really um thoughtful on
27:48 this. Um he's got a whole sort of local
27:52 solution to this that doesn't require
27:54 centralized UBI. Um centralized UBI in
27:58 his model I think accounts for 10 or 20%
28:03 of the total pie and most of it has to
28:06 do with local resources.
28:08 Um I I dunder think it may happen in
28:12 Europe where taxes are not a dirty word
28:15 just not here in the USA. the well the
28:16 thing I'm saying um Dunder is um
28:21 it's it's possible if AI does not have a
28:24 dramatic impact on on the workforce if
28:28 it has a dramatic impact then then I
28:30 think you have to because because if you
28:32 end up 20% in unemployment you have a
28:35 revolution on your hands so so like
28:39 here's the thing about the the the rich
28:42 class they're not [ __ ] stupid they're
28:44 they're they're rich for a They know how
28:46 the game is played. They know how to
28:48 manipulate the machine, right? And they
28:51 understand how the machine works. And
28:52 they also understand that if certain
28:55 elements of the machine get too far out
28:57 of whack,
28:59 it will go bad for them.
29:02 There are books that talk about this.
29:05 You've seen this before,
29:10 but we'll see. You could be right.
29:13 I just, you know, I just I, you know,
29:15 had we not had COVID, I would be
29:17 absolutely in your camp, but but we all
29:20 got to experience what happened when
29:21 there was a catastrophic risk um and the
29:25 United States included um you know did
29:28 the quarantine thing. So, same thing
29:32 will happen with AI and economics at
29:34 some point.
29:37 I don't know how fast it's going to go.
29:39 Business is really slow to adopt [ __ ]
29:42 So instead of three to five years, it
29:45 might be five to 10 years. It might be
29:47 five. It might be 10 to 20 years. I
29:49 don't know. But I just don't I think
29:52 2026 is going to change some [ __ ]
29:56 I think 2026 is where we're going to
29:57 start to see the first non-janky AI.
30:02 AI from from November 30th, 2022. I'm
30:05 counting that as the beginning of the
30:06 generative AI era. So, we just hit this
30:09 week is the third year anniversary of
30:11 chat GPT.
30:14 I would say we are still firmly in the
30:18 AI is a janky piece of [ __ ] phase
30:22 of AI. Um,
30:25 the hallucinations are unmanageable.
30:28 Um, the like vibe coding things wiping
30:32 out people's hard drives is
30:34 unmanageable. autonomous agents that
30:37 [ __ ] things up are unmanageable. The
30:39 physics in movie generation is
30:41 unmanageable. The lack of character
30:43 consistency for storytelling, the lack
30:45 of coding consistency, the lack of
30:47 security in coding, every in every
30:50 single discipline, things are jankier
30:53 than [ __ ]
30:55 I think we start to see that change in
30:57 2026. There will be an example or two of
31:01 a system that's built that's like, "Oh,
31:05 well, that's interesting." H
31:09 I didn't think they'd get that good that
31:11 fast.
31:19 And if that happens,
31:23 keep coming here. Pay attention. Pay
31:25 attention. Like, uh-oh. What did I do?
31:29 >> You didn't do anything other than
31:31 forgetting to open Miro. So, I have This
31:33 is the only way.
31:34 >> I can't see I can't I can't see it at
31:36 all. My whole
31:36 >> Yeah. So, I figured um couple things
31:38 though to to interrupt. Um one, Hedra
31:42 dropped on Twitter or X as they call it
31:45 now. Uh that a option to sketch a video
31:52 into existence. They're calling it head
31:54 draw and they're offering a credit promo
31:59 if you comment their headaw. They they
32:03 just DM'd me like 500 free credits to go
32:06 play with the new head draw. It's not
32:08 available if you go to the website, but
32:10 if you DM them or send them a comment on
32:12 their latest expost. Um
32:15 >> did you put that in the in the thing?
32:19 >> I I did not, but I will. But it's a
32:21 limited offer, you know, first come,
32:23 first serve. Um, also, uh, I since we
32:26 were talking about staying tuned to
32:28 what's going on in the future, figured
32:30 it would be a great time to talk about
32:32 Festivus. Now, I'm going to go.
32:34 >> Perfect. Lovely. So, let me talk about
32:36 Festivus. So,
32:39 um,
32:41 it is December 3rd.
32:45 Three.
32:48 December 3rd,
32:51 three weeks from now,
32:54 right after the holidays. I don't know
32:56 if I'm allowed to say Christmas, but
32:58 Christmas shortly after that, and other
33:02 related holidays.
33:06 And I don't know enough about the other
33:07 holidays to know when they land because
33:08 I'm I'm just I'm ignorant. Okay.
33:14 So, after the holidays, but before New
33:16 Year's,
33:18 the AI Salon and She Leads AI are
33:21 putting on AI festivists. And if you
33:24 could pull the
33:26 um what you call it up there, Brandon,
33:28 the uh the banner,
33:34 if you go to aifestivist.com,
33:36 there you go. Go to aifestivist.com.
33:42 Let me do that. Beautiful.
33:44 Um, go to afestivist.com.
33:47 You can register there,
33:50 but we've got a whole bunch of things.
33:51 We are looking for sponsors. You can
33:54 sponsor as an individual. We've got like
33:56 a friends and family sponsor thing.
33:58 We've also created a virtual trade show
34:01 booth. So, Festivist this year is going
34:04 to have a trade show booth. And I think
34:06 the the the trade show booths start at
34:08 like a hundred bucks or 50 bucks, like
34:10 something really cheap, and then I think
34:11 they go up from there.
34:13 um like just for a basic text listing is
34:16 really cheap and then if you want a
34:18 picture it's a bit more so we have a
34:20 trade booth thing.
34:22 Then we're also selling
34:26 the deluxe replay kit. So the deluxe
34:29 replay kit. So, if you don't know what
34:31 Festivus is, it's 24 hours of
34:35 programming on Friday and Saturday,
34:38 December 26th and 27th from 9:00 a.m. to
34:41 9:00 p.m. Pacific. Reg festivist last
34:44 year was awesome. It was incredible.
34:47 Okay. Ail produced by Brandon. Um,
34:53 it was really remarkable. So, we're
34:54 going to have speakers for all 12 hours
34:57 uh on each day. Um,
35:01 a fair amount of those presentations
35:04 will be hands-on teaching you how to do
35:07 stuff, teaching you how to build stuff.
35:09 You know what we're going to do? We're
35:11 going to do an hourong how to create a
35:13 digital twin workshop.
35:16 Um,
35:18 that gives you what the $995
35:22 Tony Robbins thing gave you.
35:25 So, so if you want if you want to get
35:28 what you could have gotten at the Tony
35:30 Robbins thing, but for free, you can do
35:33 that here. So, you're going to want to
35:34 buy the um the replay package. Okay? Get
35:38 it now because it's discounted.
35:40 So, go do that. And then the final thing
35:42 that I'll say about Festivus down toward
35:44 the bottom, and this is a request for
35:47 all of you. My request is there's an
35:50 area that says there that says help us
35:52 promote Festivus. And there's a
35:54 hyperlink
35:56 to a page with all of the graphics on
35:58 it. So, we've made you all these cool
36:00 graphics like this thing. And we've made
36:02 a bunch of social graphics that are I I
36:04 think they're called copy swap swap
36:08 boxes or something like that. You can or
36:10 swipe. I don't It doesn't [ __ ]
36:12 matter. Social media kids have a word
36:14 for it. It is a folder of files,
36:18 images that you can go share on social
36:20 media. So, go to aifestivist.com. scroll
36:23 down toward the bottom and say, "Help us
36:24 promote Festivus." Go get yourself some
36:27 graphics and go make some Twitter ads.
36:32 And if you're like, "I don't I don't do
36:33 Twitter ads, but I do X ads."
36:37 Okay, you're superior to me. Fine. Go
36:42 make some X ads. Go put some on
36:44 LinkedIn. Go put some on Facebook.
36:47 Put an ad in your Facebook feed and
36:50 watch the vitriol of your family and
36:53 friends eviscerate you for daring to
36:57 talk about AI in a way other than its
37:00 evilness. Swipe files. Yes, that's what
37:04 it is. Vicki knows.
37:06 Thank you, Reggie. Will do that. See,
37:09 Reggie's attitude is the right attitude.
37:12 people, you know, all of you people who
37:14 didn't respond with will do.
37:17 Wrong attitude.
37:19 What a great idea. Isn't that cool?
37:21 Swipe files. So, go to aifestivist.com,
37:24 scroll down, help us promote Festivus,
37:26 click on the hyperlink, and then there's
37:28 a bunch of cool [ __ ] It'll make you
37:31 look like you're like one of the one of
37:33 the in gang because you are
37:38 already promoting. I Oh, Suzanne, your
37:41 posts are great, by the way. Thank you.
37:42 I'm on it. Mary, Mary, beautiful.
37:45 We got to get the word out.
37:48 I mean, honest to God, the the the
37:52 quality, the level of education that
37:55 people are going to get in two days
37:58 between the holidays and new year for
38:01 free is insane.
38:04 It's absolutely insane.
38:08 Pavan will share with all my friend.
38:09 Terrific. Beep beep boop. Serenity now.
38:15 Calm down. Breathe. Yes. I'm on it.
38:19 Unbelievable. Terrific. I've invited
38:21 several behind the scenes. Beautiful.
38:23 Love it.
38:26 This is what I like to see. Some
38:27 enthusiasm. I can't talk too loud. I
38:30 feel like I'm some neighbor's going to
38:32 bang on the door. Shut the [ __ ] up
38:34 there, you big [ __ ] What are you
38:35 talking about? The [ __ ] AI.
38:44 I don't know. Whatever hair product I
38:46 got working, man, it's
38:49 it's a it's a banger.
38:53 Yeah.
38:56 I don't like to brag, but this is nearly
39:01 real. Oh, yeah.
39:10 Um,
39:12 did you bring your pink bow? I did not
39:14 bring my pink bow.
39:20 Nice wig. Thank you. It's actually four
39:22 tupes weaved together with um, spider
39:24 silk.
39:27 So, you can't you can't actually see the
39:28 boundaries. Uh, oh, I've done something
39:30 wrong.
39:31 >> No, that's okay. I I just also wanted to
39:34 remind you about Salons's Got Talent and
39:36 the special prize I left for you on the
39:38 contest page.
39:39 >> Oh, good. Okay, cool. Um, okay. So,
39:43 that's a whole another thing. Let's go.
39:47 So, wait. I've got to share. Let me
39:49 share. Let me go here. Let me go back
39:52 here. No, that's not right. Let me go
39:54 here. Let me go here. Let me go here.
39:56 Okay. Here. Let me go here. Calm down,
39:58 everybody. I'm going to share my tab.
40:01 I'm going to share that community event
40:03 tab. Beautiful.
40:05 Um, where's it announced? Is it in
40:07 community feed, Brandon?
40:11 >> Uh, challenges and competition.
40:14 >> Okay.
40:20 So if you go to Yan AI salon
40:26 and on the left hand side you scroll
40:27 down
40:30 um to play and create and there's
40:34 challenges and competitions. If you
40:36 click on that, Brandon
40:38 is hosting or has put together
40:42 Salon's Got Talent and it's a video and
40:45 I don't Why am I nervous to push this
40:47 play button?
40:49 I think I should be.
40:52 Oh boy.
40:54 Oh, it's not a video. Oh, it's a video.
40:58 Welcome to AI Salon's Got Talent. Good
41:00 luck to the contestants.
41:08 I I really have to redo my cameo to not
41:12 have that shitty boring shirt.
41:21 Be afraid. Be very afraid. Okay. Submit
41:24 your artwork here. So, here's what we're
41:25 going to do. from December 3rd, which is
41:29 today, until December 10th, you can
41:33 submit your work. So, we're we're doing
41:35 and it can be any kind of work you want.
41:37 There's no restrictions on it. There's
41:39 no theme to it. We just want work that
41:41 you're proud and excited to share, okay?
41:45 And you just submit it here and then
41:48 people are going to vote on it. We're
41:49 going to basically do a vote thing. It
41:51 can be songs. It could be poetry. It
41:53 could be um a movie. It can be It
41:56 doesn't matter. It can be an app that
41:58 you vibe coded about running through a
42:00 subway. Doesn't like can literally
42:02 anything. What I would encourage you to
42:04 do leaning into the AI mastermind
42:07 practice
42:09 is elevate your game.
42:12 Don't just submit anything. Don't just
42:14 submit something. Really think about
42:17 what could you submit for this? what
42:19 could you do that's really in line with
42:20 who you are, something you're really
42:22 proud of or something you really believe
42:24 deeply in and submit that. And don't be
42:28 afraid to submit multimodal entries like
42:31 maybe you submit a video game, but you
42:34 submit a video that talks about the
42:36 video game and maybe you submit, I don't
42:37 know, some sort of deck that explains
42:40 it. I don't know. Be creative with it.
42:43 Okay, Kyle is rocking that look.
42:47 Kyle's just tired and does not care.
42:54 But but thank you to Brandon for uh for
42:56 putting that together. Um it's a really
42:58 cool idea. So the the winners will be
43:02 announced uh during Festivus and the
43:05 overall winner wins an AI salon
43:07 mastermind practice uh membership for a
43:12 year.
43:14 Um, and uh, and that's really cool. I
43:17 like that. I think that's powerful. So,
43:20 you can submit more than one entry. Yes.
43:22 Well, I don't know. I didn't make up the
43:24 rules. Brandon, can they submit more
43:26 than one entry?
43:29 It's up for debate. Um, we're just kind
43:32 of building this boat as it's sailing
43:34 down the canal. Um, so I would say if
43:36 you have two different pieces that you
43:38 really feel uh compelled to enter and
43:40 they're different, you know, don't flood
43:42 the zone with a hundred different pseudo
43:44 tracks. But, you know, if you I would
43:46 say, yeah, with the more creativity, the
43:48 better.
43:49 >> Yeah. And quite frankly, I mean, it's
43:50 like, you know, you're gonna if you if
43:53 you submit too many pieces, you're going
43:55 to dilute your vote, right? So, you
43:57 know, you're going to split it across
43:59 things. But, yeah, I don't I don't see
44:01 any reason why not, especially if it's
44:03 different categories.
44:05 Right. Yeah.
44:06 >> And um by the way um while I'm here um
44:11 we have a V2 of the uh Subway Surfer
44:15 game if you'd like to.
44:16 >> Very nice.
44:18 >> We've been hard at work. Um
44:25 >> Instead of producing, he's been hard at
44:26 work making the subway
44:28 >> for Daniel.
44:29 >> So now we do we can jump on the rats.
44:32 >> Oh, wait. You're gonna you'll change the
44:34 uh share.
44:35 >> Oh. Uh yeah. Uh
44:40 >> so we've got holes to jump over now.
44:42 Don't fall in the tracks.
44:43 >> Go full screen.
44:46 >> I don't know how actually.
44:48 >> It's in the upper right, isn't it?
44:52 >> Yeah. The the out button. The up arrow
44:55 out button.
44:57 >> Oh.
44:59 Uh nope. I select and ask.
45:02 >> Yeah,
45:04 >> I don't know. Ask your producer. But the
45:07 point is, and the reason I wanted to
45:09 jump back up here and share this is
45:11 because we do now have, and I just need
45:14 to wait for one to show up. We do now
45:16 have a pizza.
45:18 >> That's awesome.
45:19 >> And the pizza rat is worth 500 points.
45:23 >> Of course, now that we're asking for a
45:25 pizza rat, we won't get one. There's a
45:26 pizza rat.
45:27 >> Pizza rat. Oh, nice. That's awesome.
45:33 I I shared this in the regulars. So if
45:35 you wanted challenge for the high score
45:39 >> Oh, that's a good idea. Reggie just said
45:41 uh people should share what tools they
45:43 used for their entries. I think that's
45:44 not a bad idea.
45:46 >> Yes,
45:48 Groovy.
45:49 All right. Fantastic.
45:53 Let me go to this window here. No,
45:57 that's the one I'm in. Go this window
46:00 here. Move that down there.
46:04 Beautiful. Do this here. All right,
46:08 we're back. So, AI Festivus
46:11 AI um AI's Got Talent. And then also, if
46:16 you're not a member of the AI salon,
46:19 go to the salon.ai, learn about what
46:22 we're up to. We are a community of AI
46:25 optimists and people that are trying to
46:30 figure this [ __ ] out. And just to say
46:31 that we're optimists doesn't mean that
46:33 we don't have doubts.
46:35 This is not blind optimism.
46:39 This is looking at
46:42 what the AI salon's about. What this
46:44 channel is about is acknowledging the
46:47 fact that AI is transformative and it's
46:51 not going away. Like that simple. No
46:54 judgment on it.
46:57 Just that the nature of what it is, the
47:01 powerfulness of it
47:03 and all this investment means that it's
47:06 transformative and it's not going away.
47:09 Okay?
47:11 So if it's transformative and it's not
47:13 going away, then we as humans have two
47:17 choices.
47:20 This is binary. I normally hate binary
47:23 thinking.
47:26 Binary thinking it's this or that.
47:28 Right? Genius of and is additive. Binary
47:31 thinking is this or that.
47:35 The one place
47:37 that I will accept binary thinking is if
47:40 AI is transformative and it's not going
47:42 away, then here's the two choices. And
47:46 they're quite simple.
47:48 You deal with it or you don't.
47:53 That's it.
47:57 It's not like you have to go to Stanford
48:00 and get a degree in math or not. No, you
48:03 deal with it or you don't. And what
48:05 dealing with it looks like is just
48:07 [ __ ] learn what it is.
48:10 [ __ ] play with it. Experiment with
48:13 it. Understand it. Not all of it. just
48:16 understand a piece of it.
48:21 If you choose not to engage with it,
48:25 then what ends up happening if it's
48:27 transformative and it's not going away,
48:30 it will transform your world
48:35 without you knowing what was coming. It
48:38 will completely blindside you and that's
48:40 going to suck. So, don't do that.
48:43 Keep coming back here. The the purpose
48:45 of this channel is one
48:50 hair advice,
48:52 hair inspiration.
48:55 Right. The second goal of this channel
48:59 is for you to just be in the
49:01 conversation.
49:03 Just be in the conversation. Be chatting
49:06 with people here. Hey, what are you
49:07 doing? How'd you do that? You doing
49:09 anything good, Kyle? What's all this
49:12 nonsense about? Whatever's the news of
49:14 the day. Just being in the conversation
49:17 just means that you're aware that
49:19 there's this thing
49:21 and it's coming. It's coming. It's
49:23 coming. It's coming and it's here and
49:25 it's here and it's here and it's here.
49:30 And if you're one of those at this point
49:33 minority people
49:35 that are paying attention to this, one
49:38 of the things that we found in here is
49:40 that AI rather than being this thing
49:42 that we have to compete against
49:46 us versus the machine, binary thinking,
49:49 AI bad, human good,
49:53 there's another way. There's an
49:55 enlightened way.
49:57 AI is a thing that is transformative and
50:00 it's not going away and I'm a human with
50:03 ideas
50:05 and rather than competing with an AI
50:08 that's getting increasingly powerful
50:12 like going to be more powerful than me
50:15 in fact I would say a year and a half
50:18 two years ago AI was more powerful than
50:21 me for me that ship has already sailed
50:27 Rather than me competing with that, what
50:30 I can do and what all of us can do is we
50:33 can say, "Wait a minute.
50:35 I'm the captain now. I'm the captain
50:38 now.
50:41 I'm driving this ship." And the ship is,
50:45 in my case, Kyle Shannon.
50:48 And I get to say, "Well, who am I? What
50:51 do I believe in? What do I like?
50:54 What's the change I want to make in the
50:56 world? How do I want to do that? Do I
50:58 want to be creative? Do I want to?
51:00 Right.
51:01 And then when I have that idea, now I
51:04 can just take AI, strap it on like a
51:08 jetpack,
51:11 and it amplifies. It pushes me forward.
51:15 It's not me versus AI. It's me amplified
51:18 by AI.
51:23 What was I made for? Yeah. Listen to the
51:27 Barbie song.
51:31 I used to
51:43 waffles I made for.
51:48 As strange as it sounds, I think that is
51:51 our job in the future.
51:54 To be a Barbie. I was on there and he
51:57 said the job our job in the future is to
51:59 be a Barbie doll.
52:02 I thought that was kind of silly. I
52:03 didn't understand that. I don't even
52:05 like pink.
52:08 I I I don't understand what he was
52:09 talking about.
52:12 Our
52:14 job is going to be answer the question,
52:16 what was I made for?
52:21 And you will now have the tools and the
52:24 capacity
52:28 to do that.
52:31 Oh, but I don't have enough resources. I
52:32 don't know. My idea is an application.
52:35 And I have never learned a line of
52:37 programming in my life. I'm not very
52:39 technical. I'll tell you that. I'm not
52:41 very technical.
52:48 Anything you want to do, you're going to
52:50 be able to do.
52:52 So, what are you going to do?
52:55 Figure that [ __ ] out. Start now. Daily
52:58 daily practice. The AI salon mastermind
53:02 practice is a structured framework. We
53:05 created a nine-stage framework for
53:08 designing and practicing a daily
53:11 practice
53:13 that centers around the human first and
53:17 AI as the augment
53:19 as the amplifier.
53:21 All right, Weaver, what's happening?
53:24 We're shaking. What's going down? We got
53:27 De Don Lrod
53:30 Coupe in the house. That is a great
53:32 name.
53:34 name is Don Lrod Coupe. How may I help
53:37 you?
53:39 I hope you're here to fix my hair, Don,
53:41 because this is a
53:44 This is
53:46 This is AI generated. Okay,
53:51 do you want to know the state of AI?
53:53 This is AI generated.
53:56 That's where we are.
54:01 Good lord, it's a mess.
54:06 We love your hair.
54:17 Oh, let's see. I'm using that as my
54:20 excuse for hearing out. My hair is AI
54:23 generated
54:25 or just this is AI generated. Anything
54:27 that's bad, this is AI generated.
54:31 I I cannot be held responsible. I use
54:34 chat GPT to create this hairstyle.
54:38 It's pretty good.
54:44 I'm sorry, sweetheart. This was AI
54:46 generated and I'm on the free version.
54:49 That's even better.
54:52 This is Yeah. Sorry. No, this was the
54:54 free version of Perplexity. Yeah. Yeah.
54:57 No, I know. I know. It's just for
55:00 another 24 hours and then uh we'll be
55:02 back to normal. We'll have a normal
55:05 Sears robot carpet salesman kind of
55:08 situation. But right now, we've got
55:11 chaos.
55:13 Oh man, where can I find instructions
55:16 for the competition? If you go to the AI
55:18 salon, so go to community.thesalon.ai
55:21 AI.
55:23 And then down the left hand side in the
55:25 play section, there's a couple of
55:27 sections before I think the play section
55:29 is number three. There's challenges and
55:32 competitions. So, it's like two two
55:34 spaces down in the play section is
55:37 challenges and competitions.
55:40 How would you even prompt it?
55:49 I I'm an old man. Make me look hip.
56:03 Oh god.
56:08 All right, kids. Listen. I gotta get the
56:10 [ __ ] out of here. I gotta get to bed. I
56:12 got Listen,
56:15 I got musicals to sell.
56:18 Well, I got one.
56:20 I'm not a broker. If If you're out there
56:23 and you're like, "I've got a musical,
56:24 Kyle. Could you go sell mine, too?" No.
56:30 I've got one musical I'm trying to
56:31 produce.
56:33 You know how hard this is? Do you know
56:35 how much the world wants another musical
56:38 right now?
56:41 Nobody wants another musical. I'll tell
56:43 you, did I tell you this? Um, my the the
56:47 woman that I'm staying at, Kathy, her
56:50 daughter, Sallyanne,
56:53 she's funny. She's this this is from my
56:56 wife's family, so they're from the
56:58 Bronx. So, they're they're, you know,
56:59 they're they're New Yorkers, right?
57:03 So So, so Sally's really smart and she
57:06 knows all about culture and stuff like
57:07 that. She knows storytelling. She knows
57:09 novels and books and things. So I'm I'm
57:11 showing her the musical and I'm we're
57:14 going through the songs and about the
57:16 fourth song in Sally goes, "You know, I
57:20 [ __ ] hate musicals." She goes, "This
57:23 is the kind of song that if I were in
57:25 the Broadway theater and I heard this
57:26 thing spin up, I'd walk out." She goes,
57:29 "This is definitely a Broadway show.
57:32 This should be on Broadway." I just
57:33 [ __ ] hate musicals.
57:38 That's the best.
57:40 So good.
57:47 Source camp. Um, I would like another
57:49 musical, please. Listen, we need a
57:51 Hamilton replacement. We really do. We
57:54 need a Hamilton replacement. Sydney is
57:57 the next Hamilton. Okay?
58:00 So, Sydney's going to be it. So, I'm
58:02 here in New York. I'm here in the Big
58:03 Apple talking to big-time producers.
58:07 We don't have a path. We don't have a
58:09 plan yet. This is a this is a working
58:11 meeting. We're collaborating on what the
58:13 [ __ ] we need to do to get this thing
58:15 mounted in some way.
58:19 And
58:21 and I'll tell you
58:24 I'll tell you my dream. I went to the
58:26 public tonight,
58:29 the public theater
58:32 right down there on St. Mark's place and
58:37 I took me some pictures of it and I went
58:39 inside. Uh-oh.
58:41 What's happening? Oh,
58:45 physical dexterity challenge. Hang on.
58:51 I took pictures of it. So,
58:55 my dream would be we workshop it
58:57 somewhere. Well, I I'll just say this
58:59 out to the universe. Hamilton
59:02 workshopped at the 52nd Street project.
59:06 So, I could see us doing like a, you
59:08 know, a small
59:11 uh what do you call it? A a uh a modest
59:16 workshop at something like 52nd Street
59:19 Project where some producers get to come
59:22 in and hear the words and hear the songs
59:24 and see the movement, see the actors and
59:27 see Sydney come to life.
59:30 And then how I'm imagining it, we go
59:32 from there to the public
59:35 because the public is just it's the
59:37 public theater. It's where Hamilton
59:39 started.
59:40 So Hamilton started at 52nd Street
59:43 Project as a workshop.
59:46 Well, actually, Hamilton started as a
59:50 song that was sung for President Obama
59:56 that made such a racket that they had to
59:59 turn it into a musical. I I assume Lyn
1:00:02 Manuel intended to turn it into a
1:00:04 musical anyway, but he had a little bit
1:00:06 of a leg up there, plus a Tony for In
1:00:09 the Heights before that. So, for for
1:00:11 what it's worth, he was doing okay.
1:00:14 So, so we're going to do 52nd Street
1:00:16 Project workshop. Then we're going to go
1:00:18 we're going to do a production at the
1:00:20 public.
1:00:22 It's gonna go at the public and then
1:00:24 we're going to full [ __ ] full send to
1:00:25 Broadway, baby.
1:00:29 That's the That's the dream. That's
1:00:30 where we're [ __ ] going. All right.
1:00:35 Now, you might look at me and say,
1:00:38 "Kyle,
1:00:40 that's a ridiculous dream."
1:00:44 Yes.
1:00:45 Next thing you know, Kyle and Suno will
1:00:47 be scoring in KTO 3. Maybe. Maybe I'll
1:00:53 be there to see it. I have faith. Oh, I
1:00:54 have faith. I'm really excited. I'm
1:00:56 really excited. It's just when I say
1:00:59 stuff like that out loud, I'm like,
1:01:00 "Good Lord, that's ridiculous to say."
1:01:03 And at the same time, why not?
1:01:08 Why the [ __ ] not?
1:01:12 It's a story that should be told. It's a
1:01:14 It's a good story. It's good songs.
1:01:18 If the woman that's If the woman that's
1:01:20 like, "I hate [ __ ] musicals and this
1:01:23 is the song I would walk out on, but
1:01:24 yes, this should be on Broadway. These
1:01:26 sound just like Broadway, then [ __ ]
1:01:28 let's put it on Broadway. We want her to
1:01:31 walk out of this musical." And here's
1:01:32 the secret. She loves musicals. That's
1:01:35 what I found out from another family
1:01:36 member, Sallyanne.
1:01:39 You don't [ __ ] hate musicals. All the
1:01:41 musicals that Melissa saw, you told her
1:01:43 to see because you saw them and loved
1:01:45 them. So, you love musicals deep down.
1:01:48 Liar.
1:01:56 Important question. Are we going for
1:01:58 another subway ride together? I will do
1:02:02 I'll do I'll go live tomorrow uh in the
1:02:04 subway. I think the subway rides are fun
1:02:07 because I just realized everyone on the
1:02:08 on the subway is on their phones and I
1:02:11 assume not everyone's live on the
1:02:14 subway, but I'm like, are they going to
1:02:17 know that I'm live? I'm like, no,
1:02:18 everyone's got their phones up. So, I
1:02:20 just pretend like I'm looking at
1:02:22 stuff and I'm sure it's illegal as hell.
1:02:25 I'm, you know, I there's going to be a
1:02:28 knock by the feds on the door. Are you
1:02:31 Mr. Kyle Shan? Yeah, we are you you're
1:02:36 affiliated with the uh artificial
1:02:39 intelligence learning laboratory. Is
1:02:41 that that's the case?
1:02:44 And I don't know why this New York cop
1:02:46 sounds like a Midwest farmer.
1:02:52 But that's what you get tonight. I'm a
1:02:55 little tired.
1:02:58 All right. Kristen Chennowith.
1:03:00 Um, no. I don't think she's right for
1:03:02 it. Um, Lauren Allred is the is the is
1:03:07 the woman that um I had in my mind when
1:03:11 I wrote Sydney.
1:03:13 Um, she's the one that sang she's the
1:03:16 voice of the the song the u Never Never
1:03:21 Enough Never Enough in Greatest Showman.
1:03:24 Um, she was on Britain's Got Talent
1:03:26 singing that and kind of revealing that
1:03:28 she sang that song. She's she's amazing.
1:03:30 Um but then we just watched um there
1:03:34 there's a musical there's a documentary
1:03:36 out right now about Hamilton about the
1:03:39 woman that that initiated the
1:03:43 one of the lead roles.
1:03:46 I forget her name. Rebecca someone um
1:03:48 she could be really good in it. Um
1:03:50 there's a woman a young woman that was
1:03:53 in In the Heights, a Hispanic woman that
1:03:56 could be good for it. Um,
1:03:59 I don't know. A lot of people could be
1:04:01 good for Sydney because
1:04:04 Sydney is really just manifested in
1:04:07 Kellen the tech reporter's mind. So,
1:04:09 whatever he thinks she should be, that's
1:04:11 what she is. You know, like it is. Um,
1:04:16 you can just pretend you're FaceTiming.
1:04:18 Oh, that's a good idea. That's true. Oh,
1:04:20 yeah, Mom.
1:04:22 Yeah, Mom. Good to see you, too.
1:04:29 You know the Sally,
1:04:33 you know that Sallyanne said she hated
1:04:35 musicals,
1:04:37 but but she keeps going to musicals. If
1:04:39 she hates them, why does she go?
1:04:44 Glad to see the Glad to see Broadway
1:04:47 moving away from Marvel. Well, they got
1:04:51 to produce my play to move away from
1:04:52 Marvel, but yes, I agree. All right, I'm
1:04:55 going to go. Um, peace out everyone.
1:04:57 Hope you had fun tonight. Bye.