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3/31/2026 - Jack Dorsey’s Plan to Replace Corporate Hierarchy with AI Intelligence Layers

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Happy Tuesday. Claude Code has been freed into the wild. What means this. Kyle Shannon explores the tension between human authenticity and AI perfection during a live session at the AI Learning Lab. He breaks down the dramatic leak of Anthropic’s Claude Code, examining how a simple debugging error led to half a million lines of proprietary source code hitting GitHub. This event serves as a stark reminder of how quickly the open-source community can dismantle corporate secrets in the age of rapid development. The conversation shifts to Jack Dorsey’s recent manifesto on restructuring companies to function as "mini AGIs" rather than traditional hierarchies. Kyle maps this vision to his "Seven Economies" framework, describing a future where AI handles information routing and coordination, effectively eliminating middle management. He details the specific human roles required in this new "Aggressor Economy," focusing on high-level strategy, deep craft, and human intuition. #ArtificialIntelligence,#ClaudeCode,#Anthropic,#FutureOfWork,#JackDorsey,#BusinessStrategy,#AIAdoption,#TechNews Chapters: 00:00:00 Musical Opening 00:02:28 Jumping the Tracks 00:05:32 Live Karaoke Night 00:08:19 Human Authenticity 00:10:18 Sunday Morning Dreams 00:14:22 Voice Cloning Technology 00:16:30 AI Industry News 00:20:37 Hallelujah Performance 00:23:36 Twitter Acquisition History 00:25:05 Anthropic Code Leak 00:30:29 Open Source Innovation 00:32:09 Block Layoff Strategy 00:34:57 Roman Army Hierarchy 00:38:43 Collaborative Cohorts 00:40:10 First Organizational Chart 00:42:24 Scientific Management History 00:44:41 Matrix Organization Models 00:49:12 Intelligence Over Hierarchy 00:52:14 Company World Models 00:56:15 Dynamic Intelligence Layer 01:00:54 Future Human Roles 01:04:45 Reshaping Global Business 01:10:44 Seven Economies Framework 01:18:14 Required Business Reading 01:24:46 Charcuterie Board Graphic 01:29:11 Coding with Claude

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0:00 campy.
0:02 Huh?
0:22 Meow.
0:26 We will be
0:34 happy.
1:13 What is
1:40 Best lead singer ever. You're damn
1:42 right. That champ Shannon, he's a hell
1:44 of a hell of a dog. Load the car and
1:48 write the note.
1:52 Tell Grab your bags and grab your coat.
1:58 Tell the ones that need to know
2:04 we are headed north.
2:12 One foot in and one foot back.
2:17 Well, it don't pay to live like that.
2:23 So, I cut the ties and jump the tracks.
2:28 For never for never to return.
2:37 Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me in.
2:42 Are you where the shape I'm in?
2:48 My hands they shake, my head it spins.
2:53 Oh, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me in.
2:59 When at first I learned to speak,
3:04 I used all my words to fight
3:09 with him and her and you and me.
3:14 Yeah, it was just a waste of time.
3:22 It was such a waste of time.
3:30 That woman, she's got eyes that shine
3:35 like a pair of stolen polished eyes.
3:40 She has to dance. I satisfied.
3:46 I'll see you in the morning time.
3:53 Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me in.
3:58 Are you aware the shape I'm in?
4:03 My hands they shake my head. It spins.
4:08 Oh, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me head.
4:14 Three words that became hard to say.
4:21 I am loving you
4:26 more than I am today.
4:31 Look at the things I do.
4:39 Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me in.
4:43 Are you wear the shape I'm in?
4:48 My hands they shake. My head it spins.
4:53 Oh, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take
4:56 me in.
5:05 Oh, there's a lovely song from a
5:08 brothers. Hello, a brothers. What's
5:10 shaking? What's going down?
5:14 Wolfman Jack.
5:30 Tik Tok has characterized this as
5:33 performing live karaoke with a pop
5:35 tribute.
5:43 Welcome to live karaoke night here at
5:45 the AI learning lab.
5:51 It's dog karaoke.
6:27 Genie in a bottle is the rising star of
6:30 the night. Congratulations
6:35 in a westerly direct show.
6:42 This car is my train.
6:46 I've been driving. I've been wondering
6:51 what it is I'm running from again.
6:56 Feel like an 80y old man.
7:00 Holding on to 29.
7:04 And uphead on that horizon
7:08 is a California line.
7:18 Double hit up trucks car scaring a wide
7:20 load.
7:22 Refab house cut in half.
7:26 Cute little front door and two windows.
7:28 My love
7:30 ain't sure whether to cry or laugh.
7:34 You see, I broke a home up myself once
7:38 I stumbled to that dog.
7:42 I read a note about the dogs li
7:51 anymore.
7:54 Well, I've had enough.
7:57 All this freedom on my road. Sing along,
8:00 Chappie.
8:02 No, it's good with decision.
8:05 At least that what I've been told.
8:16 Hey, you know something? I realized this
8:19 sort of halfass janky ass dog singing
8:23 people singing same 17 songs thing.
8:30 Um,
8:32 when all the AI learning labs out there
8:34 are just AI avatars doing perfect
8:37 [ __ ] here's the latest news of the
8:40 day in artificial intelligence.
8:42 Everything's faster. Everyone's making
8:44 more money and more people are picking
8:47 blueberries. When they're all doing
8:49 that, just perfect.
8:51 I'll just be here being a human being.
8:54 You're like, "Oh yeah, that one's real."
8:56 Listen to the dog and the whatever is
8:59 that singing.
9:14 You're the authentic one. Ha ha. My name
9:17 is Shannon. I'm the authentic one.
9:26 Is his guitar out of tune? I don't think
9:28 it's ever been in tune.
9:40 Hey, if you're on YouTube, do we have
9:41 anyone on YouTube? YouTube or Twitter or
9:43 LinkedIn? Do make a comment for me.
9:46 Like, let me shake make sure my comments
9:47 are working. I know there's nothing to
9:49 really comment on yet. It's like, uh,
9:52 you know, it's night time, right? You
9:54 don't need to wear sunglasses.
9:59 >> Champion Kyle. Keeping it real.
10:01 Authenticity is the the big thing of the
10:04 day.
10:11 You and I here all alone.
10:16 Sunday morning
10:18 at home.
10:21 Skye's blue and a coffee is strong. It's
10:25 true.
10:29 And I open my eyes to a dream realized
10:34 in front of me.
10:38 And I had got a clue what in the world
10:40 is happening to me.
10:46 Think I think I'm happy.
10:49 Like first day summer vacation happy.
10:53 Got to get a little rest and relaxation.
10:56 Happy
10:58 like the choir on Sunday morning singing
11:00 true.
11:31 Yeah.
11:34 Yeah.
11:54 That's a seven and garunkle song.
12:05 Um.
12:11 Uh.
12:21 Uh. Oh, there's no comments coming in.
12:23 Anyone on YouTube? Is anyone on YouTube?
12:26 Can someone from Tik Tok hop over to
12:27 YouTube and post a comment?
12:29 >> There's one. We got someone from Silver
12:31 Fox. Oh,
12:32 >> hang on. Let me reload.
12:34 Oh, wait. I don't want to reload. Hang
12:36 on. I need to go away from it and come
12:38 back. There we go.
12:41 Hey, chief.
12:43 Okay, commenting. Okay, we've commented.
12:46 Comments are working now. I thought
12:47 something was weird. Something was
12:48 weird. It was my It was my window. I had
12:52 a window refresh issue. Yes, Mr. So,
12:57 >> it wasn't weird. It was a regular
13:01 Thank you. Thank you.
13:04 Oh, yes.
13:07 Yes. Yes. Yes.
13:10 It is the 31st
13:14 of March.
13:16 The quarter is complete.
13:56 Whatever time I see you now, get that
13:59 looking.
14:02 Every time I see your mouth, I hear that
14:06 smile.
14:09 The early misty morning light heard the
14:13 engine turning.
14:15 The old foot outside.
14:20 I was thinking about So the new Sunno
14:22 5.5
14:25 is supposed to do good at cloning your
14:28 voice.
14:29 So, I was thinking of doing that. I
14:30 don't know if I want to do it live
14:32 because I don't know, performance
14:34 anxiety. You know, what if I can't get
14:37 it musically up
14:44 and I just hose it and make a model on
14:46 my shitty singing voice.
14:50 That would be not fun, wouldn't it?
14:54 Scott Parker, hey there. Can't wait to
14:56 tell you how participating early on just
14:59 getting ready to change my life. Oh
15:02 yeah.
15:04 Scott Shioone Parker is a longtime
15:07 watcher and a rising star and you're
15:09 live.
15:11 If you're watching Kyle and Chappie here
15:13 Chappie here in the AI learning lab,
15:15 what are you doing with your life that's
15:16 more worthwhile?
15:21 Well, here's the thing.
15:24 If you if you come here expecting to get
15:26 anything from me other than maybe, you
15:28 know, a smarmy ass joke once in a while,
15:32 um,
15:35 that ain't what this is about. What this
15:37 is about is being in the conversation
15:39 with the people that come here
15:42 >> and understanding that um,
15:46 there's a lot of stuff to figure out.
15:51 We're We're
15:54 This next quarter is going to be pretty
15:56 intense. The first quarter was pretty
15:58 [ __ ] intense, right? The first three
16:00 three months of the year, we got We got
16:03 Opus 4.6 in December, which I know is
16:06 not this year. Shut up. I I I know how
16:09 to do months,
16:11 but we got Opus 4.6 in in December,
16:14 where all the programmers like, "Ah,
16:16 [ __ ] All right. It's good enough now to
16:19 do my job.
16:21 God damn it. I used to like coding. Now
16:24 I'm just babysitting agents. This sucks.
16:28 So that happened in December. Open Claw
16:30 comes out in January and it's like,
16:32 "Hey, you want your own little baby AI
16:35 that's going to hang out with you and do
16:37 shit?"
16:39 Everyone lost their [ __ ] mind. The
16:42 the sales of Mac minis went through the
16:44 roof.
16:47 Um,
16:53 you know, Seed Dance 2.0 came out, the
16:55 the Hollywood thing. Oh, did you see
16:57 that? Hollywood was like, "We're going
16:59 to sue you for copy." Hey, could we get
17:02 access to your little model there? We'll
17:05 we'll give you $2 million.
17:09 Oh, you'll take it? Okay, let's go.
17:11 That's awesome.
17:14 [ __ ] [ __ ] Hollywood. Everyone's up
17:17 in arms still. They're like, "Oh, we
17:18 could get a movie, too.
17:23 Joy Party's here." Joy Pertie's like,
17:25 "Yeah, I'm making movies. Anybody need
17:27 an AI filmmaker?" Hollywood's like, "Uh,
17:29 yeah, we do. We got the seed dance thing
17:32 here. Do you could you turn that into a
17:35 Hollywood blockbuster? We're not going
17:37 to tell Russell Crowe
17:40 if that's good with you."
17:42 No, we've already got his likeness.
17:44 We've got that from some other movies.
17:46 We're just put it Joy, if you could just
17:49 We're going to put you in the back room.
17:51 There's a What's it You There's still
17:54 some brooms in it, but if you could work
17:57 back there and just come come in the
17:59 back door with it. Don't drive a fancy
18:02 car. Okay.
18:05 In the basement, Joy Party. We We got We
18:08 We keep people like you in the basement.
18:11 We're calling it Hollywood 2.0.
18:17 I'll definitely come back soon. Got a
18:19 couple of things in soul procurement I
18:22 need to testify. I'll testify soon.
18:24 Okay, good. Beautiful.
18:29 There was some really interesting news
18:31 today. We'll get to I'm going to I'm
18:32 going to just blast through X tonight
18:34 because there's a bunch of a bunch of
18:35 really interesting stuff happened today.
19:26 The boxer.
19:34 Sitting in sitting in railway station
19:36 now taking a ticket to my destination.
19:54 Hey, how do I know if this channel's
19:56 real? Play the guitar.
20:02 Okay, it's real.
20:11 Chimpy,
20:13 you want to sing little A minor?
20:34 There was a single card
20:38 David played and it plays the Lord.
20:43 You don't really care for music, do you?
20:51 goes like this. The fourth fifth
20:56 round of fall lives
21:01 king.
21:03 Hallelujah.
21:08 Hallelujah.
21:12 Hallelujah.
21:17 Hallelujah.
21:22 Hello.
21:26 Yeah.
21:34 All right, let's get this show on the
21:35 road. Enough of that singing them sappy
21:38 songs. They're making me all sad. You
21:39 put me to sleep. Wake up, people.
21:45 We got some AI to do.
21:49 Good lord. All right,
21:52 friends pap. Hello friends. Just got in
21:56 from the AI documentary. It came out
21:58 Thursday. Highly recommend. Very nice.
22:01 Here we get education, community, group
22:03 learning, great conversation,
22:05 relationship building, creativity.
22:07 Exactly. That's why you come here.
22:10 I am just the I am just the carrier of
22:13 the community.
22:16 That's it. I show up. I show up. You
22:19 show up. That's what we do.
22:21 Lori Kay is a longtime watcher and a
22:24 rising star of the AI learning lab.
22:26 Congratulations, Lori. You're a rising
22:29 star. Do I get something? No.
22:37 I know, champ. It's exhausting.
22:40 I know. I'm tired of it, too.
22:45 You done?
22:48 What do you want? Cheese.
22:50 I said cheese. He wagged his tail.
22:54 Invites to AI learning lab. If you see a
22:57 guy playing guitar singing with a dog,
23:02 yeah, just scroll Tik Tok until you see
23:04 a guy singing with a dog.
23:09 All right. Um, let's get let's get
23:11 going. Let's get going. Let's get this
23:13 show on the road. I tell you what. I
23:15 tell you what. I TELL YOU WHAT. OH YEAH.
23:19 MHM.
23:22 I tell you what. I tell you what.
23:26 We'll put it. We're going to share a tab
23:28 in case there's some sort of audio we
23:30 want to listen to. All right.
23:33 So, we're on the Twitter.
23:37 It's technically called X. Uh Elon Musk.
23:40 Uh Elon Musk purchased Twitter uh for
23:43 $42 billion, of course, in a famous
23:45 transaction that he didn't want to
23:46 actually complete, but uh uh it was a
23:49 was a a failed negotiation. Anyway, $42
23:53 billion. It's now worth about 20 $18
23:56 billion, something in that neighborhood.
23:57 It's so he parlayed the 42 billion into
24:00 the 18 billion. That's it was a parlay.
24:02 It was what they call a reverse parlay,
24:04 a negative parlay. And uh and then but
24:06 but then what he what he wanted to do
24:09 was uh he didn't like the bird. Um I I
24:13 think the bird reminded him of his
24:15 childhood. I don't I don't know what it
24:16 was. And he liked the letter X uh
24:18 because of airplanes and so he named it
24:21 X. And so that but it used to be called
24:23 Twitter.
24:28 Uh what's going on over here? I don't
24:30 have enough
24:33 black bar on the bottom for the Twitter
24:35 people. Hang on people, I'll be with
24:38 you. Just everybody calm down.
24:42 Everybody calm down.
24:46 Fantastic. There you go. There you go,
24:49 Twitter people. That's a little more
24:50 better. You can see it.
25:01 Okay.
25:04 So, one of the things I wanted to show
25:06 you,
25:08 was it this one? Yes.
25:12 So,
25:14 apparently,
25:17 um, Claude Codes source code was leaked
25:22 yesterday.
25:24 Listen to this timeline. So this is
25:26 shrudy
25:28 uh on on uh on X. Anthropic leaked
25:32 512,000 lines of claude code source code
25:35 yesterday. What happened in the next
25:37 next 12 hours is absolutely wild.
25:42 4:00 a.m. Enthropic pushes an update to
25:44 npm. Inside the package, their entire
25:48 codebase, a 60 megabyte debugging file
25:52 accidentally bundled in. 23 minutes
25:55 later, researcher uh Chow ofen Shu spots
25:59 it, downloads the zip,
26:03 posts it on X. Within six hours, 3
26:07 million views. So by 10:00 a.m. there's
26:09 three million views of the uh of the
26:12 downloaded source code of Cloud Code. By
26:16 the time Anthropics team woke up, the
26:18 code was forked 41,000 times across
26:21 GitHub. Anthropics started firing DMCA
26:24 takedowns. Too late. A Korean developer
26:28 developer named Sigrid Jyn woke up with
26:31 his phone exploding. He's Claude Code's
26:33 biggest power user. Wall Street Journal
26:36 reported he burned through 25 billion
26:38 tokens last year. He read the leaked
26:40 code. He wrote he he rewrote the entire
26:44 thing in Python in eight hours. His repo
26:47 hit 30,000 stars, faster than any GitHub
26:50 project in history. Then he rewrote it
26:52 again in Rust. That version now has
26:55 49,000 stars. Someone mirrored it to a
26:58 decentralized platform with one message
27:00 will never be taken down. The code is
27:03 permanent. Enthropic cannot get it back.
27:09 Here's the part I can't stop thinking
27:11 about. Anthropic built in something
27:13 called undercover mode. Its only job,
27:16 prevent Claude from accidentally leaking
27:18 internal secrets. They shipped an entire
27:20 anti-ak system in their own product,
27:23 then leaked their own source code in a
27:26 map map file.
27:29 Uh oh, someone's unemployed. And in
27:31 fact, the the guy that leaked it posted
27:34 his uh I no longer work at Anthropic. Uh
27:38 here, Kevin Notton Jr., Kevin Notton Jr.
27:42 wrote, "I was fired from Anthropic
27:44 today.
27:46 I was the engineer responsible for
27:48 shipping the latest dev cloud code npm
27:51 package. Wanting to improve the
27:52 debugging experience for the team, I
27:55 decided to include some source maps in
27:57 the release. This resulted in the entire
27:59 internal codebase being publicly exposed
28:02 including thousands of files and every
28:05 agent command all system prompts the
28:08 complete query engine undercover mode
28:10 bypass permissions mode and our internal
28:13 telemetry configuration.
28:15 So so anthropic so anthropic is more
28:18 open source than open AAI right now. I
28:21 take full responsibility. I genuinely
28:23 believe the safeguards Claude code had
28:25 built in for me would be adequate and it
28:27 was a serious mis miscalculation on my
28:29 part. My actions have unintentionally
28:32 open sourced major parts of Claude's
28:34 architecture well ahead of schedule
28:37 although well ahead of schedule means
28:38 that they were planned for for being
28:40 open sourced. It sounds like I apologize
28:42 to the team and Claude. And then if you
28:44 go to his um his thing, it says recently
28:48 exanthropic looking for work.
28:53 Poor dude. Oopsie. Exactly. Why would
28:56 you share that with the world? Not great
28:59 for future hiring opportunities. Well, I
29:01 don't think he I don't think he intended
29:03 for it to get out. He But I don't I
29:05 don't know. I mean, clearly he clearly
29:08 it was a miscalculation. And here's the
29:10 deal, man. Developers are [ __ ]
29:11 brutal. If you if you make one mistake,
29:15 they will find you out,
29:19 you know. Crazy. It's crazy. I'll tell
29:23 you. It's crazy. I'll tell you. It's
29:25 crazy.
29:28 All right, let's see. A simpler tech. If
29:31 you could figure out HTML, you could
29:33 play
29:38 the href.
29:43 was the soul in ovation
29:48 that changed the world.
29:52 AI
29:54 is like a thousand
29:58 hrefs
29:59 a day.
30:11 Oh, you can't see this. Share this tab
30:13 instead. Okay.
30:17 Oh, here's another one. Okay. All right.
30:20 This was the other one I wanted to talk
30:21 about. Um,
30:27 so we y'all need a homebased data center
30:30 equivalent to Anthropics where we can
30:31 have our own cloud code at home. Well,
30:33 you're not I mean the the thing about
30:36 Claude Code's source being uh put out
30:39 there is that people are going to be
30:40 able to take open source models and make
30:42 them really good because Claude Code was
30:44 the thing that was it was the wrapper
30:47 around their models that was the good
30:49 part and that part's now been leaked.
30:53 It's amazing.
30:56 Okay.
31:02 So why use anthropic now? Well, that's
31:04 what we'll see. We'll see what the I
31:06 mean, I just have a feeling there's
31:09 going to be a whole bunch of Claude code
31:10 clones now that are based on Claude
31:12 code. And then what what will be cool is
31:15 there will be some developers that make
31:16 it better. So this will lead to
31:18 innovation, but crazy. Okay, Jack
31:20 Dorsey. Let's read the Jack Jack Dorsey
31:23 post.
31:24 It's long. You want to go in with me?
31:28 I'm not going to read that whole [ __ ]
31:29 thing, but we're going to read we're
31:30 going to read a lot of it.
31:33 So, Jack Dorsey, if you don't remember,
31:38 he um
31:40 he founded Twitter. He founded the
31:42 Twitter back when it had a little birdie
31:44 and it was blue. The only thing that's
31:47 blue that remains is the check mark.
31:50 Jack Dorsey founded Twitter and his most
31:55 recent company is called Block. I don't
31:57 even know what Block does, but Block has
31:59 10,000 employees.
32:01 No, Block had 10,000 employees. And
32:04 about two weeks ago, Jack Dorsey
32:08 fired
32:10 4,000 of his 10,000 employees and said,
32:13 "Here's the thing. This is not because
32:16 we're hurting for money. We are
32:17 profitable and we are growing.
32:20 We could have kept you on. We're
32:22 choosing not to because
32:25 our employees armed with intelligent AI
32:28 working in smaller flatter teams are
32:32 changing how we start and run companies.
32:34 That was one of the lines within
32:37 within his document firing those 4,000
32:40 people laying them off. And so today he
32:43 put out this thing. I think it was
32:45 today. Was it today? Jack, where's the
32:48 date? There's no date here.
32:52 article article 10 hours ago
32:57 at Sequoia we see the speed we see that
32:59 speed is the best predictor of startup
33:02 success most companies are focused on AI
33:05 AI as a productivity enhancer now I want
33:07 to show you something I want to show you
33:09 something
33:11 this oh you can't see it I got to change
33:14 how I'm sharing everybody calm down
33:17 everybody calm down. All right. Okay,
33:21 Kyle, we'll calm down. We're calm now.
33:23 Okay. All right. Oh, yeah. The seven
33:26 economies. You talked about that before.
33:29 Okay. Look, here's
33:31 here's Jack Dury. What does he say?
33:36 At Sequoia, we see speed as the best
33:39 predictor of startup success. Most
33:41 companies are focused on AI as a
33:44 productivity enhancer. See that right
33:46 there in the in the in the seven
33:49 economies. That's a economy. Number
33:51 three
33:53 is the efficiency economy. AI is cool.
33:56 It makes our business more efficient.
33:58 I'm going to take AI and I'm going to
34:00 use it to take what we currently do and
34:02 make it more efficient. Okay, that's his
34:05 his second sentence.
34:08 Few are focused on the potential of how
34:10 AI of AI to change how we work together.
34:14 few, right?
34:17 So, the transition economy are companies
34:20 that do see that possibility of AI to to
34:24 innovate things, but they're basically
34:26 going to keep things as they are.
34:28 But he says, "Block is showing is
34:31 showing what it looks like to
34:32 fundamentally rethink organization
34:34 design, ultimately harnessing AI to
34:37 increase speed as a compounding
34:39 competitive advantage. Block is showing
34:42 what it looks like to fundamentally
34:44 rethink organ organization design.
34:47 That's economy five, the aggressor
34:50 economy. Burn the org chart. Let's
34:52 reinvent ourselves. So this is his
34:55 manifesto on doing that.
34:58 2,000 years before the first corporate
35:00 org chart, the Roman army solved a
35:02 problem a very large organization still
35:04 faces. How do you coordinate thousands
35:05 of people across vast distances with
35:07 limited communication?
35:10 Their answer was a nested hierarchy
35:12 within a const a consistent span of
35:14 control at every level. The smallest
35:16 unit was the uh conternium
35:21 conternium
35:23 eight soldiers who shared a tent
35:25 equipment and a mule. Remember when I
35:27 talked about groups of six to eight
35:29 people, cohorts within the AI salon?
35:33 I talked about we should we should find
35:36 ways to create persistent groups of six
35:38 to eight people collaborating and
35:41 working together. We should experiment
35:42 with that in here. Maybe we'll kick that
35:44 off. So in about well so so here's the
35:47 thing. April 30th marks the 3r year
35:50 anniversary of AI Learning Lab going
35:52 live on Tik Tok. And for the past year
35:55 it's been live on Tik Tok and YouTube.
35:58 We're going to be shifting this inside
36:00 the AI salon because I want to get back
36:03 to the AI salon being this this really
36:06 vibrant collaborative place. Maybe we
36:08 play around with this structure in our
36:10 community. There's something here.
36:12 Anyway,
36:14 eight soldiers who shared a tent,
36:15 equipment, a mule led by a danis. I
36:19 don't know what a danis is. 10 uh
36:21 contraburnia formed a century of 80 men
36:25 under a centurion. Six centuries made a
36:28 cohort. 10 cohorts made a legion of
36:30 roughly 5,000. At each layer, a named
36:33 commander held defined authority,
36:36 aggregated information from below, and
36:38 relayed decisions from above. The
36:40 structure 8 to 80 to 480 to 5,000 was an
36:44 information routing protocol built on a
36:47 simple human limitation. A leader can
36:49 effectively manage somewhere between
36:51 three and eight people. Romans
36:54 discovered this through centuries of
36:56 warfare. Even today, the US Army's
36:58 hierarchical chain follows a similar
37:00 pattern, what we now call span of
37:03 control, and it remains a governing
37:05 constraint of every large organization
37:06 on Earth. The next big change came from
37:09 Prussia. After Napoleon's army destroyed
37:11 the Prussian forces at the battle of
37:13 Jenna in 1806, a group of reformers led
37:16 by Scarnhorst and
37:19 Jezanau Jizenu Jizanu
37:22 Nissa Nissan now I don't know rebuilt
37:26 military around an uncomfortable truth.
37:28 You cannot depend on individual genius
37:30 at the top. You need a system. He
37:33 created the general staff, a dedicated
37:36 class of trained officers who job whose
37:38 job was not to fight but to plan
37:40 operation operations process
37:43 information, coordinate across units.
37:45 Scarnhorst uh intended these staff
37:48 officers to support incompetent generals
37:51 providing the talents that might
37:52 otherwise be wanting among leaders and
37:54 commanders. This was middle management
37:57 before the term existed. professionals
37:59 whose purpose was to route information,
38:02 precomputee decisions, maintain
38:04 alignment across complex organizations.
38:06 The military also formalized the distin
38:09 distinction between line and staff
38:11 functions. Line advances the core
38:14 mission. Staff provides specialized
38:17 support. Every corporation still uses
38:19 this vocabulary today.
38:22 Military hierarchy. Anyone saying
38:24 anything? So, we all need a homebased
38:26 data set. Okay. The sort of thing that
38:29 prevents elite capture many people were
38:31 afraid of.
38:34 All right.
38:38 Roman Empire.
38:42 That small group dynamic sounds
38:43 interesting, Kyle, doesn't it, Cam? So,
38:45 so the basic idea was thinking about
38:49 this is this is inspired by um in in
38:52 content evolution. I run this group
38:54 called Collab and it's it's evolved into
38:58 being about eight of us that show up on
38:59 a regular basis, seven or eight of us.
39:02 And like we've been working together now
39:04 for three years and like we know each
39:06 other. We know each other's businesses
39:08 are, but we don't we don't collaborate
39:09 in our businesses necessarily, but when
39:12 we come together, we can talk about
39:14 stuff and get stuff done and pay
39:15 attention to the news and and prototype
39:18 stuff if we need to. And I just thought,
39:21 wouldn't that be a fascinating? And we
39:23 we kind of have that informally in the
39:25 salon right now. We've got little groups
39:27 of of, you know, irregulars and things
39:30 like that that that pile up and and
39:32 travel around in packs. What if we
39:35 formalized that as as a as a kind of
39:37 unit that you could sign up for a cohort
39:40 and and just meet with them on a regular
39:42 basis? I don't know. I think there might
39:44 be something there. Anyway, military
39:46 hierarchy entered the business world
39:48 through the American railroads in the
39:49 1840s and50s. The US Army lent um West
39:53 Point trained engineers to private
39:55 railroad companies. These officers
39:56 brought military organizational thinking
39:58 with them. Staff and line hierarchies,
40:01 divisional structure, bureaucratic
40:03 systems of reporting and control. All of
40:05 it was developed by the military before
40:07 the re railroads adopted it. In the
40:09 1850s,
40:11 um, Daniel McCllum of the New York and
40:13 Eerie Railroad created the world's first
40:15 organizational chart. Let's go find it.
40:19 Daniel McCllum, world's first
40:20 organizational chart.
40:23 I'm sure this exists somewhere.
40:28 Images.
40:31 There it is. Look at that.
40:38 What's happening?
40:43 Oh, funny. I set a timer on my watch. It
40:45 was buzzing.
40:49 Dr. J, there's something there. Okay.
40:52 With the with the small groups, right?
40:54 Isn't there something cool there?
40:55 Introducing the organization chart. Holy
40:57 [ __ ] look at this thing.
41:02 Can I
41:04 copy image?
41:10 Holy [ __ ] this is cool.
41:17 Oh, you can't read it. It's too small.
41:19 That's too bad. New York Eerie Railroad
41:22 representing a plan of organization.
41:28 Wow.
41:30 That's crazy.
41:32 There's the first org chart,
41:36 huh? Who knew
41:45 the informal management? Wait, let's
41:47 see. Uh, the informal management styles
41:51 that worked for smaller railroads were
41:52 failing. Train collisions were killing
41:54 people. Macllum's chart formalized the
41:57 same hierarchical logic. Romans had used
41:59 layers of authority, defined reporting
42:02 lines, structured information flow. It
42:04 became the blueprint for the modern
42:06 corporation. YouTube comment. Um, I
42:09 worked for one for 10 years. That looks
42:12 like a railroad organization chart. All
42:14 right. That's wild. BNSF railroad.
42:17 That's that's wild, dude. Amazing. Um,
42:20 okay. Let's see. Frederick Taylor 1856
42:24 to 1915 often called the father of
42:27 scientific management optimized what had
42:29 become what what happened within that
42:32 hierarchy. Taylor broke work into
42:34 specialized tasks. So this begins okay
42:37 so 18 so this is probably he was born in
42:41 1856 so probably around 1900
42:45 Taylor breaks work into specialized
42:47 tasks
42:49 tasks
42:51 right end of the 1800s early 1900s
42:57 specialized tasks
43:00 we train for skills you're going to do
43:03 your tasks tailorism here we Go.
43:07 This produced functional pyramid
43:09 organization, a structure structure
43:10 optimized for efficiency.
43:14 Oh, wait. Taylor broke work into
43:16 specialized tasks, assigned them to
43:18 trained experts, and managed through
43:21 measurement rather than intuition.
43:24 Right. So, KPIs. What are your KPIs,
43:27 people?
43:29 Key performance indicators. Huh? This
43:31 produced a functional pyramid
43:33 organization, a structure optimized for
43:35 efficiency within the information
43:37 routing system that the military had
43:39 pioneered and the railroads had
43:41 commercialized. The first rail stress
43:44 test of functional hierarchy came during
43:46 World War II. The Manhattan project
43:49 required physicists, chemists,
43:51 engineers, metallurgists, and military
43:54 officers to work across disciplinary
43:55 boundaries toward a single objective
43:57 under extreme secrecy and time pressure.
44:01 Robert Oppenheimer organized Los Alamos
44:03 into functional divisions, but insisted
44:06 on open collaboration across them.
44:09 Resisting the military's instinct to
44:10 compartmentalize, and NASA
44:12 compartmentalizes.
44:14 When the implosion problem became
44:16 critical in 1944, he reorganized the lab
44:19 around it, created crossf functional
44:21 teams unlike anything in corporate
44:23 America at the time. It worked, but it
44:25 was a wartime ex exception led by a
44:29 singular figure. this kind of question.
44:33 Wait, the question the post-war business
44:35 world faced was whether that kind of
44:37 crossf functional coordination could be
44:39 made routine.
44:41 With the growth in globalization of
44:43 companies after World War II, the scale
44:46 limitations of functional design became
44:49 acute. In 1959, McKenzie's Gilbert Cle
44:53 and Alfred Dipio published creating a
44:56 world enterprise in the Harvard Business
44:58 Review, providing an intellectual
45:00 framework for a matrix organization that
45:03 combined functional specialties with
45:05 divisional units.
45:08 Fascinating wild stuff because it's all
45:11 about to blow up.
45:14 It's all about to blow up, which is what
45:16 this article is about. Under the
45:19 leadership of Marvin Bower, McKenzie
45:20 helped companies like Shell and GE
45:22 implement these principles, balancing
45:24 central standards with local agility.
45:27 This became the professional or modern
45:30 corporation that propelled the post-war
45:33 global economy.
45:35 Over time, other frameworks uh came in
45:38 to address complexity, rigidity,
45:40 bureaucracy. The McKenzie 7S framework
45:42 developed in the 70s by Tom Peters and
45:45 Peter Robert Waterman distinguish the
45:48 hard S's strategy structure systems and
45:51 the soft S's shared values skills staff
45:54 and style. The core idea was structural
45:57 elements alone were insufficient.
45:59 Organizational efficiencies required
46:02 alignment across cultural traits and
46:04 human factors blah blah blah. Okay.
46:06 Something coming from Brandon.
46:15 The reading something learning lab.
46:18 Oh, the railroad learning lab.
46:23 Okay.
46:24 In more recent decades, technology
46:26 companies have experimented aggressively
46:28 with organizational structure. Spotify
46:31 popularized crossf functional squads
46:33 with short sprint cycles. Zappos
46:35 attempted hocrisy eliminating ma
46:39 management t titles entirely.
46:42 Um we faced this when we did agency.com
46:44 we tried all sorts of different
46:46 structures. Where we ended up in the end
46:48 was crossf functional 25 to 30 person
46:52 teams that had basically were like
46:55 little mini agencies. So we had um we
46:59 had like a VP that was we had VPs for
47:02 head of the disciplines and then within
47:05 a team you would have project
47:06 management, account management, creative
47:10 um technologists and site builders. So
47:12 front end and back end basically and
47:14 they would all sit in you know
47:17 physically colllocated units um with
47:20 groups of four or five sitting together.
47:22 So and it it ended up working really
47:24 really well. Champ, what do you want?
47:28 You want cheese? You want mama? What do
47:31 you want? All right, hold, please.
48:00 Ow, my knees hurt. Okay.
48:04 Valve operated with a flat structure nor
48:06 no formal hierarchy. Each of these
48:08 experiments revealed that something
48:09 about the limitations of traditional
48:11 hierarchy, but none solved the
48:12 underlying problem. Spotify moved back
48:15 toward conventional management as it
48:17 scaled. Zappos saw significant
48:20 attrition.
48:22 Valve's model proved difficult to scale
48:24 beyond a few hundred people. As
48:25 organizations grew into thousands, they
48:28 revert to hierarchical coordination.
48:30 Okay, so now we're moving on. The
48:34 constraint is the same one the Romans
48:36 faced in the Marine Corps rediscovered
48:38 in World War II. Narrowing span of
48:40 control means adding layers of command,
48:42 but more layers means slower information
48:44 flow. 2,000 years of organizational
48:47 innovation has been an attempt to work
48:49 around this trade-off without breaking
48:51 it. Okay, here's the setup. This is the
48:54 setup.
48:56 2,000 years of organizational innovation
49:00 has been an attempt to work around this
49:02 trade-off. The trade-off being
49:06 as you narrow the span in a large
49:08 organization, you increase layers and
49:10 you slow down communication.
49:12 At block, we're questioning the
49:14 underlying assumption that organizations
49:17 have to be hierarchically organized with
49:20 humans as the coordinating mechanism.
49:22 Instead, we intend to replace what the
49:25 hierarchy does. Most companies using AI
49:29 today are giving everyone a co-pilot,
49:31 which makes the existing structure work
49:33 slightly better without changing it.
49:37 Economy three,
49:40 the efficiency economy.
49:43 We're going to take what we currently do
49:44 and make it slightly better. This is
49:46 what Jack's talking about. He's in
49:47 economy five. He's he's talking about
49:49 being in economy five. He's telling us
49:52 how to be an economy 5.
49:54 Okay.
49:58 Most companies today are using AI are
50:01 giving everyone a co-pilot, which makes
50:02 the existing structure work slightly
50:04 better without changing it. We're after
50:06 something different. A company built as
50:09 an intelligence or a mini AGI. We're not
50:13 the first one to move beyond traditional
50:15 hierarchy. Her hires
50:18 renden hay model platform organizations
50:21 datadriven management. These are real
50:23 attempts at the same problem. What they
50:25 lacked was a technology capability of
50:28 actually performing the coordination
50:30 functions. So basically what he's going
50:32 to say is he's going to turn loose small
50:35 pods of teams and let the AI organize it
50:37 and track it and collect speed up make
50:42 instant the communication challenge.
50:45 This is wild.
50:48 Um what they lacked was a technology
50:51 capable of actually performing the
50:53 coordination functions that hierarchy
50:55 exists to provide. AI is that
50:57 technology.
50:59 For the first time, a system can
51:01 maintain a continuously updated model as
51:05 an entire of an entire business and use
51:08 it to coordinate work in ways that
51:10 previously required humans relaying
51:13 information through layers of
51:15 management.
51:17 There's going to be no middle management
51:19 in his his organization. And there's
51:22 going to be probably a seuite
51:25 and then pods
51:27 and AI will just manage the pods. Go do
51:29 this [ __ ] I need this [ __ ] done to for
51:32 what these guys want. You all go do my
51:35 [ __ ]
51:36 It's amazing.
51:38 Um, for this to work, a company needs
51:41 two things. a kind of world model of its
51:43 own operations
51:45 and a customer signal rich a customer
51:48 signal rich enough to make that model
51:50 useful. Block is remote first.
51:53 Everything we do creates artifacts,
51:55 decisions, discussions, code, designs,
51:59 plans, problems, and progress all exist
52:02 as recorded actions. It's the raw
52:04 material for a company world model. In a
52:07 traditional company, a manager's job is
52:09 to know what's happening across their
52:11 team and relay that context up and down
52:13 the chain.
52:15 In a remote first company where work is
52:17 already machine readable, AI can build
52:20 and maintain that picture continuously.
52:23 What's being built, what's being
52:24 blocked, where the resources are
52:26 allocated, what's working and what
52:27 isn't. That's the information the
52:30 hierarchy used to carry. The company
52:33 world model carries it instead. This is
52:36 [ __ ] brilliant.
52:38 AI is the tech. Bingo. Yeah, exactly.
52:42 This is brilliant.
52:45 Uh but the capability of the system is
52:48 only as good as the quality of the
52:50 customer signal. Okay. So the first
52:52 thing he's saying is
52:55 if all of your
52:59 business knowledge is locked in middle
53:03 management's heads,
53:05 you're [ __ ]
53:07 If you're a remote company,
53:10 you've already got it digitally. So the
53:12 AI can deal deal with the digital stuff.
53:14 It can it can read the story. But now
53:16 he's saying, "But the capability of the
53:18 system is only as good as the quality of
53:20 the customer signal feeding it." And
53:23 money is the most honest signal in the
53:25 world. People lie on surveys. They
53:27 ignore ads. They abandon carts. But when
53:29 they spend, save uh send, borrow, or
53:33 repay. That's the truth. Every
53:36 transaction is a fact about someone's
53:38 life. Block sees both sides of millions
53:40 of these transactions every day. a buyer
53:43 through Cash App and a seller through
53:45 Square plus the operational data from
53:48 running the merchants's business that
53:49 gives the customer world model something
53:51 rare. A per customer per merchant
53:54 understanding of the financial reality
53:56 built from honest signal that compounds.
53:59 The richer the signal, the better the
54:01 model. The better the model, the more
54:03 the transactions. The more the
54:04 transactions, the richer the signal.
54:07 Jack Dorsey's [ __ ] smart dude.
54:12 So cool.
54:14 Together, the world model and the
54:16 customer world, the the company world
54:18 model and the customer world model form
54:20 the foundation for a different kind of
54:23 company. Instead of product teams
54:25 building predetermined road maps, you
54:28 build four things. This is so cool.
54:30 First, capabilities. The atomic
54:33 financial primitives, payments, lending,
54:35 card issuing, banking, buy now pay
54:38 later, payroll, and so on. These are not
54:40 products. They're building blocks that
54:42 are hard to acquire and maintain and
54:44 they have network effects and regul
54:46 regulatory permission. They have no no
54:48 UIs of their own. They have reliability,
54:51 compliance and performance target
54:53 targets. Second, a world model. This has
54:56 two sides. The company world model
55:00 is how the company understands itself in
55:02 its own operations, performance and
55:04 priorities. replacing the information
55:07 that used to flow through layers of
55:09 management. The customer world model is
55:11 the per per customer per merchant per
55:14 market representation built from prop
55:18 proprietary transaction data. It starts
55:21 with the raw transaction data today and
55:23 evolves towards a a full causal and
55:25 predictive model over time. It's
55:28 amazing. So basically, you've got the
55:30 company world model that understands the
55:32 AI understands here's all the [ __ ] I can
55:35 do. I've got these financial
55:39 infrastructure that I can deal with
55:41 money. I've got these skill pods that do
55:46 [ __ ] And then I've got customer
55:49 transactions down to the transaction
55:51 level and up to the merchant level
55:55 that I can track and say, "Oh, that
55:58 thing we did over here made those
56:00 numbers go higher over there. Do more of
56:02 that. In fact, let's take three of these
56:05 pods. You three pods. You're not doing
56:07 this anymore. Now you're doing that."
56:09 And go do go do.
56:13 It's crazy.
56:15 Third, an intelligence layer. This is
56:17 what comp composes capabilities into
56:20 solutions for specific customers at
56:22 specific moments and delivers them
56:24 proactively.
56:26 A restaurant's cash flow is tightening
56:28 ahead of seasonal dip. The model has
56:30 seen before. The intelligence layer
56:33 composes short-term loan from the
56:34 lending capability, adjust the repayment
56:37 schedule using the payments capability,
56:40 surfaces it to the merchant before they
56:42 even think to look for financing. A cash
56:45 app's user spending pattern shifts in
56:48 the way the model associates with a move
56:51 to a new city. The intelligence layer
56:53 composes a new direct deposit setup, a
56:55 cash app card with boosted categories
56:58 for the new neighborhood, a savings goal
57:00 calibrated to their updated income. No
57:03 product manager decided to build either
57:05 solution. The capabilities existed. The
57:07 intelligence layer recognized the moment
57:09 and composed them. So this is he's
57:12 essentially talking about a company
57:14 that's building custom dynamic solutions
57:17 per customer. [ __ ] insane.
57:22 If you don't think the world's about to
57:23 [ __ ] change, think about
57:27 all of the systems
57:29 that are hardcoded right now to do
57:32 everything he just talked about where
57:35 you either have to build those systems
57:36 or you interface with other players that
57:40 take a a cut of every transaction.
57:43 He's talking about dynamically building
57:45 those things per customer. It's insane.
57:49 Fourth, interfaces, hardware and
57:50 software. Square cash app, Afterpay,
57:52 Title, Bit Key, Proto. These are all
57:54 delivery surfaces which the intelligence
57:57 layer delivers composed solutions. They
57:59 are important, but they are not where
58:01 the value is created. The value is in
58:03 the model and the intelligence. When the
58:05 intelligence layer tries to compose a
58:07 solution and can't because the
58:08 capability doesn't exist, that failure
58:11 signal is a future road map. The
58:14 traditional roadmap where product
58:16 managers hypothesize about to what to
58:19 build next in any company's ultim is is
58:21 any company's ultimate limiting factor.
58:24 In this model, customer reality
58:27 generates the backlog directly.
58:30 Customer wanted something, we couldn't
58:32 deliver it. Dynamically design that
58:35 feature, deliver it to the customer.
58:39 That's [ __ ] crazy.
58:44 If this is what the company builds then
58:46 the question becomes what do people do?
58:49 Good. The org structure follows from
58:51 this and it inverts the traditional
58:54 picture. In a conventional c company the
58:56 intelligence is spread throughout the
58:58 people and the hierarchy routes it in
59:01 this model. The intelligence lives in
59:03 the system. The people are on the edge.
59:06 The edge is where the action is. The
59:08 edge is where the intelligence makes
59:10 contact with reality. People reach into
59:12 places the model can't yet go.
59:16 They sense things the model can't
59:17 perceive. Intuition, opinionated
59:20 direction, cultural context, trust
59:22 dynamics, the feeling in a room.
59:26 So the intelligence, the AI intelligence
59:29 is sitting at the center figuring all
59:30 this [ __ ] out and then it's know it
59:32 knows it has this interface of people
59:34 out into the world and with the other
59:36 people in the organization. Lord digital
59:38 gods. The seven economies include my
59:40 pillow makes me sleepy.
59:49 This is really cool. They sense and if I
59:52 if I'm boring you, sorry about that.
59:54 That's okay. I mean, sometimes it's
59:56 boring here.
59:59 Um, they make calls the model shouldn't
1:00:01 make on its own, especially ethical
1:00:03 decisions, novel situations, and high
1:00:05 stakes moments where the cost of being
1:00:06 wrong is existential. A world model
1:00:09 can't touch the world. It's just a
1:00:11 database. But the edge doesn't need
1:00:13 layers of management to coordinate it.
1:00:15 The world model gives every person at
1:00:17 the edge the context they need to act
1:00:20 without waiting for information to
1:00:22 travel up and down the chain of command.
1:00:25 This is [ __ ] brilliant. This is I I I
1:00:29 had a feeling this was coming from what
1:00:30 Jack wrote when he laid off 4,000
1:00:32 people, which is why I created this
1:00:35 economy five, the aggressor economy. I
1:00:37 basically made this surmising this is
1:00:40 what Jack was about to do. And he did it
1:00:43 two weeks later after he laid off 4,000
1:00:45 people. So he obviously had this in in
1:00:48 the in the can.
1:00:51 Um, in practice, this means we normalize
1:00:54 down to three roles. Oh, here we go.
1:01:00 You want to know your job of the future?
1:01:03 Hello, my friends. Hello, Mimi in the
1:01:05 making.
1:01:13 Okay.
1:01:16 Three roles. Three human roles.
1:01:20 Three. Three
1:01:23 individual contributors who build and
1:01:25 operate capabilities. The model, the
1:01:27 intelligence layer, the interfaces. They
1:01:29 are deep specialists and experts in a
1:01:31 specific layer of our system. The world
1:01:33 model provides the context that a
1:01:36 manager used to provide. So individual
1:01:38 contributors can make decisions about
1:01:40 their layer without waiting to be told
1:01:42 what to do.
1:01:43 DRI directly responsible individuals who
1:01:46 own specific crosscutting problems or
1:01:49 opportunities and customer outcomes. A
1:01:52 DRRI might own the problem of merchant
1:01:55 churn in a specific segment for 90 days
1:01:58 with the full authority to pull
1:02:00 resources from the world model team, the
1:02:03 lending capability team, the interface
1:02:05 team as needed. Dr. DRRI may persist on
1:02:09 certain problems or move elsewhere to
1:02:12 solve new ones. And then finally, player
1:02:14 coaches who combine building with
1:02:16 developing people. This is brilliant.
1:02:19 This is brilliant.
1:02:21 So people do [ __ ] People figure out
1:02:25 what the customer needs and make sure
1:02:27 that those resources are are are well
1:02:29 allocated. And then player coaches that
1:02:31 make sure people are developing.
1:02:34 They replace the traditional manager
1:02:36 whose primary job was information
1:02:37 routing. The player coach still writes
1:02:39 code. A player coach still writes code
1:02:42 or builds model or designs interfaces.
1:02:44 They also invest in the growth of people
1:02:46 around them. They don't spend their days
1:02:47 in status meetings, alignment sessions,
1:02:50 and priority negotiations. The world
1:02:52 model handles alignment. The DRRi DRRI
1:02:56 structure handles strategy and priority.
1:02:59 The player coach handles craft and
1:03:01 people.
1:03:03 It's really good.
1:03:05 There is no need for a permanent middle
1:03:08 management layer. Everything else the
1:03:10 whole whole old hierarchy did the system
1:03:14 coordinates or oh everything else the
1:03:17 old hierarchy did the system coordinates
1:03:20 and everyone is empowered with a role
1:03:22 that's much closer to the work and the
1:03:24 customer. Block is in the early stages
1:03:26 of this transition. It will be a
1:03:28 difficult one. Yeah, this is this is
1:03:31 brutal. This is brutal
1:03:34 and parts of it will likely break before
1:03:36 they work. We're writing about it now
1:03:38 because we believe every company will
1:03:40 eventually need to confront the same
1:03:41 question we did. What does your company
1:03:43 understand that is genuinely hard to
1:03:46 understand? And is it that
1:03:47 understanding? Is that understanding
1:03:49 getting deeper every day? If the answer
1:03:51 is nothing, AI is just a cost
1:03:53 optimization story. You cut your
1:03:55 headcount, improve the margins for a few
1:03:58 quarters, and eventually get absorbed by
1:03:59 something smarter. If the answer is
1:04:02 deep, AI doesn't augment your company.
1:04:05 It reveals what your company actually
1:04:06 is. Block's answer is the economic
1:04:09 graph. Millions of merchants and
1:04:10 customers, both sides of every
1:04:12 transaction, financial financial
1:04:14 behavior observed in real time.
1:04:17 That understanding compounds every
1:04:19 second of the system, every second the
1:04:21 system operates. We believe the pattern
1:04:23 behind this, a company organized as an
1:04:25 intelligence rather than a hierarchy,
1:04:29 is significant enough it will reshape
1:04:31 how companies of all kinds operate over
1:04:33 the coming years. Block is far enough
1:04:35 along to show the ideas more than
1:04:37 theory. Though we welcome debate and
1:04:39 feedback,
1:04:42 we believe
1:04:45 the pattern behind this, a company
1:04:48 organized as intelligence rather than a
1:04:50 hierarchy, is significant enough that it
1:04:53 will reshape how companies of all kinds
1:04:56 operate over the coming years.
1:04:59 That's all we need to read. There's the
1:05:02 punch line. Oh, that was it. Companies
1:05:05 move faster or slow based on information
1:05:07 flow. Hierarchy and middle management
1:05:09 impede information flow. Yes.
1:05:13 Go watch office space.
1:05:17 Yeah. Yeah. Peter. Yeah. Hey, listen.
1:05:20 We're going to need you to go on ahead
1:05:22 and come on in on Saturday. Yeah. Well,
1:05:25 did you did you get the memo about the
1:05:26 TPS reports?
1:05:29 Right.
1:05:32 Hierarchy and middle management impede
1:05:34 information flow for 2,000 years from
1:05:36 the Roman Ku Bernium to today's global
1:05:40 enterprises. We have no real
1:05:42 alternative. Eight soldiers sharing a
1:05:44 tent needed decanus. 80 men need a
1:05:47 centurion. 5,000 needed a legate. The
1:05:50 question was never whether you needed
1:05:52 layers. The question was whether humans
1:05:54 were the only option for what those
1:05:56 layers do. They aren't anymore. Block is
1:05:58 building what comes next. Called this
1:06:01 two weeks ago. Made a chart about it.
1:06:05 Here you go. He's talking about economy
1:06:07 three. He's building economy five.
1:06:11 People in economy four are going to be
1:06:14 pulled toward economy five, but it's
1:06:16 going to be hard. So, they might resist
1:06:18 it. And then what's going to happen is
1:06:19 economies five and six are going to eat
1:06:21 their lunch.
1:06:23 My stapler. That's my stap. Yeah. My my
1:06:26 stapler. My st That's my stapler.
1:06:29 I if I I've done the counting, there are
1:06:32 not enough pieces of cake. Get that was
1:06:36 the That was the last piece piece of
1:06:38 cake. That was the last piece of cake.
1:06:46 [ __ ] crazy people.
1:06:51 From hierarchy to intelligence.
1:06:57 quote I'm going to say this
1:07:02 is
1:07:04 very important
1:07:08 if you are in
1:07:11 business
1:07:14 read this
1:07:18 Jack is building an
1:07:23 economy
1:07:27 company.
1:07:30 In fact,
1:07:34 his
1:07:37 post about laying off 4,000
1:07:44 employees
1:07:47 inspired
1:07:50 my thinking on
1:07:53 the seven economies.
1:08:00 Most companies right now are economies
1:08:07 two, three or four.
1:08:19 you are likely
1:08:22 in an economy 3 company
1:08:27 which Jack
1:08:29 talks about here.
1:08:39 Do not
1:08:42 sleep on this.
1:08:46 And then I'm gonna add my little
1:08:47 picture.
1:08:49 I'm gonna add my picture of the seven
1:08:51 economies. And we're going to send this
1:08:52 out in the world.
1:08:54 I'll tell you what. I'll tell you
1:08:56 something. There, Sarah. Hey, Sarah.
1:09:01 Saturated
1:09:04 name contains saturated.
1:09:06 There we go. Saturated.
1:09:09 There you go.
1:09:12 Fantastic.
1:09:53 post.
1:09:56 All right. All right. All righty. That's
1:10:00 fantastic.
1:10:02 Yeah, that's pretty good. That's pretty
1:10:04 hot. All right. Missed the last five
1:10:07 minutes. Is someone making shakuderie
1:10:10 board
1:10:12 of the seven economies map? I hope so.
1:10:15 That'd be cool, wouldn't it? Um,
1:10:19 that's kind of wild. All right, let me
1:10:21 let me come back to Earth here for a
1:10:22 second and check in with you all. I just
1:10:24 put DRRi on my resume. There you go.
1:10:29 Um,
1:10:33 that's a trippy article. In fact, I got
1:10:35 to send that to some people.
1:10:42 Tik Tok question.
1:10:45 What What economy does academia and
1:10:47 science fit into? So, Cam, the the the
1:10:50 way I think about it is this. the the
1:10:54 layers like education, business, um what
1:10:58 did you say? Uh science,
1:11:01 um politics,
1:11:03 those are um horizontal layers and the
1:11:08 seven economies are vertical slices
1:11:10 through them. So think of the each
1:11:11 economy as level of AI adoption.
1:11:16 Um,
1:11:21 so you're going to have educational
1:11:22 institutions
1:11:24 that some are probably still in economy
1:11:27 one. They're just using books and
1:11:29 whiteboards or, you know, blackboards
1:11:31 and chalk and [ __ ] like that. And
1:11:34 they're not really using technology.
1:11:35 You've got some in economy 2 that are
1:11:37 using, you know, some technology, but
1:11:39 they're just, you know, they're still
1:11:40 using fax machines.
1:11:43 Then you're going to have economy three
1:11:45 educational institutions
1:11:47 that are using AI to like improve email
1:11:50 communications. Then you're going to
1:11:51 have economy 4, which is the transition
1:11:53 economy. They'll be doing a little bit
1:11:55 of innovation. And then you'll have
1:11:57 educational institutions doing five,
1:11:59 six, and seven. And same with science. I
1:12:01 have a feeling science is just going to
1:12:02 sort of lean quickly into five, six, and
1:12:06 seven. But a lot of scientific
1:12:08 institutions are slow and traditional.
1:12:11 So, so again, what's going to happen is
1:12:14 what the the reason I'm calling these
1:12:15 seven economies, you've got AI
1:12:19 accelerating up and to the up and to the
1:12:21 right
1:12:23 quickly.
1:12:25 And then you've got 99% of people on
1:12:27 Earth that don't even really know what
1:12:29 AI is. They maybe use Chat GPT, the free
1:12:32 version of it, like like you know, 16%
1:12:35 of them use chat GPT like a Google
1:12:37 search.
1:12:39 83% of them have never used AI. And AI
1:12:42 is accelerating away from us. So as it
1:12:44 accelerates away from us, it's going to
1:12:46 split. It's going to just fracture.
1:12:49 All these different behaviors, all these
1:12:51 different levels of AI adoption are
1:12:53 going to start functioning like separate
1:12:54 economies. And so the the stack of
1:12:57 education,
1:12:59 science, government, business, private
1:13:02 sector, you know, uh you know,
1:13:06 citizenship, citizenry
1:13:09 are all going to they're going to be all
1:13:11 in this layer in an economy
1:13:14 is I how I think it goes.
1:13:21 Kim Kek, my college has fully embraced
1:13:23 AI. That's amazing. That's great.
1:13:28 It's a seven economy cake.
1:13:31 That's really cool.
1:13:36 Um, let me copy this.
1:14:31 All right, I sent that off to some
1:14:33 people.
1:14:35 Um,
1:14:40 post on Oh, post on LinkedIn. I'll share
1:14:42 with my railroad account. Okay, I'll do
1:14:44 that. Let me go post this on LinkedIn.
1:14:46 Actually, it's a good idea.
1:14:48 Um, I'll I'll share my screen.
1:14:52 Yes, AI readiness project podcast is
1:14:54 tomorrow
1:14:56 um at 400 PM
1:14:59 Mountain time.
1:15:02 Oh, I'm sharing. Okay.
1:15:30 Okay. So, we're going to go next. We're
1:15:33 going to go um
1:15:37 this
1:15:40 tweet from
1:15:42 Jack.
1:15:46 Who's that Jack? Let's see.
1:15:51 Um X
1:15:53 is
1:15:55 very important.
1:16:07 He's declaring what it means to be an
1:16:15 economy five company.
1:16:19 referring to most companies who
1:16:26 are now economy
1:16:29 2 or three.
1:16:36 The TLDDR
1:16:40 is that
1:16:43 for 2,000 years
1:16:50 Large organizations
1:16:54 required
1:16:57 slow
1:17:00 hierarchies
1:17:04 to
1:17:08 manage the information flow
1:17:13 between
1:17:16 um working units.
1:17:32 He is actively replacing
1:17:37 the hierarchy
1:17:42 at block. I wonder if block is block
1:17:49 a company block labs block company
1:17:52 financial services he's actively
1:17:55 replacing
1:17:56 the hierarchy of block with
1:18:00 AI with with intelligence
1:18:10 if you are in business.
1:18:14 This should be
1:18:17 required reading
1:18:20 and a flipping wake up call.
1:18:27 If you are an employee,
1:18:34 figure out
1:18:39 which of the three roles
1:18:44 individual
1:18:47 individual
1:18:49 contributor
1:18:52 what did he say?
1:19:04 Directly responsible individuals.
1:19:11 Directly
1:19:13 responsible
1:19:18 individuals
1:19:22 or player,
1:19:27 coaches.
1:19:30 You
1:19:33 think you are qualified
1:19:37 for
1:19:45 Let's see.
1:19:48 Paul Rer.
1:19:52 Let's see. Michael,
1:20:00 Stellner,
1:20:06 Retesh, Patel,
1:20:10 Ben Jones,
1:20:14 let's see, Andy Scarantino,
1:20:19 Beth Commtock.
1:20:21 Let's see. Chris Hoyer,
1:20:28 what the Thomas Eric
1:20:32 Makier
1:20:35 IC's Dr.
1:20:37 These are tech company terms.
1:20:41 Yeah, they're they're tech company
1:20:43 terms, but like abstract them up. A
1:20:47 player coach is someone who can do but
1:20:48 can develop people. A DRRi is basically
1:20:51 think of it like an account manager with
1:20:54 with deploying and budget capability,
1:20:58 right? So, think about someone who can
1:21:01 say, "Hey, this customer needs this. I'm
1:21:03 going to I'm going to tell the
1:21:04 intelligence, here's what I need, and
1:21:07 the intelligence is going to figure out
1:21:08 how to get me that." And then individual
1:21:10 contributors will make sure all the
1:21:12 shit's working, right?
1:21:17 Uh
1:21:19 uh E A E Wait, ABCDE E F.
1:21:23 Does anyone else do that when you're
1:21:24 trying to figure out where you are in
1:21:25 the alphabet? You have to start at A. A
1:21:27 B C D F G I say
1:21:30 T U V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V
1:21:31 V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V V
1:21:31 V V V.
1:21:33 Am I the only one?
1:21:38 I'm meeting Ben on Thursday.
1:21:45 Waiting for Kazio. Let's see at
1:21:50 G.
1:21:55 Did my sharing just go away? It did,
1:21:58 didn't it? God damn it.
1:22:14 H I
1:22:21 J
1:22:24 John Patel
1:22:26 J Jason
1:22:30 K
1:22:32 Kelly Anderson. We'll put Kelly. Chef
1:22:34 Kelly's on the list. Um, H I J K L
1:22:41 Log Logan Kilpatrick. We'll give him
1:22:43 one.
1:22:44 M.
1:22:46 We'll do Marique.
1:22:49 N. Oops.
1:22:53 All right. I'm bored now.
1:23:00 That's good. [ __ ] it. That's enough.
1:23:04 We got our thing.
1:23:09 All right. There you go. So, if you go
1:23:10 to my LinkedIn account right now, it
1:23:13 says, "This tweet from Jack on X is
1:23:15 really important."
1:23:23 Okay, heading out folks. See y'all later
1:23:24 in the AI salon. Mary Carol, pace out.
1:23:28 Yes. ABC D, etc.
1:23:32 Beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful people.
1:23:34 Fantastic. All right, it's getting to be
1:23:37 that time. It's getting a little late
1:23:39 there. Little late there in the evening.
1:23:42 Don't even mess with LinkedIn anymore.
1:23:44 It's messy. Yeah, I know. I'm I'm
1:23:46 actually switching over to Substack. So,
1:23:47 do me a favor.
1:23:49 Um, go to Substack and my Substack is I
1:23:54 am Kyle Shannon.
1:23:56 Let me make sure that's right.
1:24:06 Yep. I am Kyle Shannon.
1:24:09 All right.
1:24:11 Go to go to Substack and I am Kyle
1:24:14 Shannon. All right. All right.
1:24:17 Right. Kyle, check out the irregulars
1:24:19 channel. I will do that right now.
1:24:28 Swing dig gank swing ginking.
1:24:44 Oh, that's so good. Seven economies
1:24:46 shuderie board. Oh, that's so good.
1:24:55 Oh my god,
1:24:58 that's so good.
1:25:01 We got to extend the top of it. Or is
1:25:03 the top of it there? Oh, it is.
1:25:07 It's got a little jankiness in the uh in
1:25:11 the in the words. But damn, that's
1:25:12 really cool, actually.
1:25:15 So good.
1:25:17 It's so good. Stability over change.
1:25:20 Young cheddar improved margins.
1:25:23 Garganola blue chip blueberry compost.
1:25:26 That should be economy one.
1:25:32 That's really cool. That was really
1:25:34 good. Really, really good. That graphic
1:25:37 makes me hungry. I know, right? It's
1:25:39 really good.
1:25:41 All right.
1:25:48 Oh, Lord.
1:25:52 Okay, people. I'm going to get out of
1:25:54 here. Um, so tomorrow, AI readiness
1:25:58 project, that's at 4:00. Um, go to the
1:26:01 AI salon. If you haven't been there in a
1:26:02 while, go there. I want to start getting
1:26:05 us back into conversation in between
1:26:09 these meetings. I want to start getting
1:26:11 things hopping again. Shit's about to
1:26:14 get weird. Shit's about to go down.
1:26:19 We don't want to be doing this alone. I
1:26:21 know it's [ __ ] exhausting.
1:26:23 I get it. If anyone gets it, I get it.
1:26:30 Will you be on this Friday holiday? Um,
1:26:37 I don't know what the holiday is.
1:26:40 What? I don't even know what month we're
1:26:42 in.
1:26:44 It's Good Friday. I will be doing
1:26:46 something good Friday.
1:26:48 It's also first Friday, so I might be
1:26:50 late. So, I'll do something a little in
1:26:52 informal on Friday. We might even do an
1:26:55 experiment. So, one of the things
1:26:58 Brandon and Andy and I worked together
1:27:00 today in our L10 meeting to to figure
1:27:03 out like if we're going to do AI
1:27:06 learning lab inside the community,
1:27:07 what's that look like? What's the what's
1:27:09 the most elegant way to do that? And so,
1:27:12 over the next month, we're probably
1:27:13 going to be experimenting. So maybe
1:27:15 we'll maybe we'll take Friday and
1:27:17 experiment. Um so Friday might be might
1:27:20 be fun
1:27:22 depending on your definition of fun.
1:27:24 Office hours this Friday. Yes. This
1:27:27 Friday is a really important one. That
1:27:29 Jack Dorsey thing that I just read, I'm
1:27:32 not going to read the whole thing on
1:27:33 Friday, but we're going to talk about
1:27:34 that on Friday.
1:27:36 That's a That's a really important It's
1:27:39 a It's a really important um
1:27:42 thing that J Jack just put out there.
1:27:44 It's the first thing that I've seen
1:27:46 where someone has actually declared what
1:27:49 economy five is going to look like.
1:27:52 You've got a going concern. You're about
1:27:54 to reinvent it. There's your road map
1:27:58 right there. Incredibly well thought
1:28:00 out. Like
1:28:03 really important. really important.
1:28:08 I'm exhausted with trying to figure out
1:28:10 clott GPT Pro like beer commercials.
1:28:12 Yeah, tastes great, less filling. Um,
1:28:18 I don't know what to say. Like the the
1:28:20 AI right now, it all still sucks. It
1:28:23 it's not going to within
1:28:26 six months.
1:28:29 We have a different problem when the AI
1:28:31 doesn't suck,
1:28:33 right? when it tastes great and it's
1:28:35 less filling and it's cheap
1:28:38 and it'll get you drunk like Bllandons
1:28:43 and like absin all at the same time.
1:28:49 It's going to be a different problem.
1:28:52 We got to get We got to get reconnected
1:28:53 in community. We got to get reconnected
1:28:56 in community.
1:28:58 Okay. Do you think Opus 4.6 sucks too? I
1:29:00 don't think so. I think Opus 4.6 is
1:29:02 good. It's funny today. Oh, this is this
1:29:05 is a wild [ __ ] insane [ __ ] thing.
1:29:10 So,
1:29:12 so there's this audio
1:29:14 synthesis thing called Cartisia and it's
1:29:17 really good and they've got this
1:29:21 data policy that if we want to use it
1:29:24 for our pharma clients, we have to turn
1:29:25 on data protection. And if we turn on
1:29:28 data protection, we can't log into their
1:29:31 playground. We we can log into their
1:29:33 playground and we can make an audio file
1:29:37 from text we put in,
1:29:40 but you can't download it.
1:29:42 There's they they removed the download
1:29:44 button and they're like, "Well, that
1:29:45 goes against you. You you turned off
1:29:47 security privacy, so you can't download
1:29:50 it on the the account you're logged
1:29:52 into."
1:29:53 So, I actually have to build an
1:29:55 application that uses their API to be
1:29:57 able to pull my my [ __ ] file down.
1:30:00 So, I went into Claude Code today and I
1:30:01 said, you know, here's the [ __ ] they
1:30:04 gave me. Go build me a front end where I
1:30:07 can input text and select from one of
1:30:10 the stupid [ __ ] voices in Cartisia
1:30:13 and get my [ __ ] file. So, it it spent
1:30:16 like half an hour coding. I don't know
1:30:17 if it finished it or not. I I left the
1:30:19 office before I got to it.
1:30:22 Um, I disagree that AI isn't great yet.
1:30:25 It's mathematical. Did you mean
1:30:26 mathematical? Um, it is mathematical.
1:30:30 You tell him, Kyle.
1:30:35 Yeah. You know. All right, I gotta go.
1:30:37 My eyes are blurry. I can't read like
1:30:40 that, you know. You know, man. Um, come
1:30:44 check out the AI readiness project
1:30:45 tomorrow. Go to the AI salon. Go post in
1:30:48 the community feed. Go post in the
1:30:50 community chat. Go post in look what I
1:30:52 made. Go post in the regulars. Join the
1:30:54 [ __ ] mastermind. We just rolled out
1:30:56 today. We had um a workshop that I led
1:31:00 on um figuring out what is your oneofone
1:31:05 thing that you're best in the world at
1:31:08 and like really owning that, discovering
1:31:10 it and owning it. It was a really cool
1:31:13 workshop today. We brought in people
1:31:14 from Andy's Humans 2.0 um group of
1:31:18 coaches and we mixed them with the with
1:31:20 the AI salon people. We crossed the
1:31:22 streams.
1:31:24 It was really cool. It was a good event.
1:31:27 It It's only happening in the
1:31:29 mastermind. All the the um the great
1:31:32 repurpose stuff is is going to be really
1:31:34 [ __ ] cool. I would get your ass in
1:31:36 the in the mastermind. We're
1:31:37 experimenting with it over the next six
1:31:39 months. Um it's going to be good stuff.
1:31:41 It's gonna be really good stuff. All
1:31:43 right, cool. Peace out. I think y'all
1:31:46 are amazing. Appreciate you hanging out.
1:31:48 You have a good night. I'm late. Gareth,
1:31:50 that's it. I'm leaving. Bye.