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aiLL 9/14/23 - ChatGPT Struggles with Health Insurance While Claude Shines

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I hosted a lively session on September 14, 2023 where I conducted experiments using ChatGPT, Claude, and other AI tools to try to make sense of a complex health insurance document. It was both funny and frustrating as the tools struggled and failed in humorous ways. We also discussed the implications of rapidly evolving AI like the new Hey Jen video translator. Overall it provided an insightful look at the current state of AI and how these tools can supplement human skills when used properly. #ai #chatgpt #futureofwork #heyjen AI Learning Lab address: https://www.tiktok.com/@aiLearningLab 0:29 - Introducing the health insurance comparison experiment 8:43 - Troubleshooting ChatGPT's inability to parse the PDF 18:01 - Claude stepping in and doing better with the document 32:00 - Discussing AI regulations and the meeting between AI CEOs and Senator Schumer 39:16 - Trying to get ChatGPT to make a resume using LinkedIn data 49:18 - Recapping the recent video call about Hey Jen and its video translation capabilities 1:12:31 - Reflecting on the need for AI to help decipher complex systems like health insurance

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0:01 foreign
0:29 welcome welcome
0:32 I am
0:35 going to grab a piece of data oh yeah
0:38 this should be fine oh oh this is
0:41 interesting
0:43 today today today
0:52 hmm
0:56 curious curious let's see save
1:02 I'll be right there
1:07 Emilio's wife am I late
1:09 no but you see what's on screen Emilio's
1:12 wife
1:13 this is your PDF
1:18 um let me save it we gonna do some
1:21 experimenting tonight I don't know if we
1:23 can do this but we'll see
1:25 let's see
1:27 um health care plans
1:32 I mean this is actually a really good
1:34 example of the [ __ ] Insanity that our
1:38 that our world is these days
1:41 all right so there's our learning lab
1:44 welcome everyone
1:46 welcome welcome welcome your disc is
1:49 almost full save space by optimizing
1:51 storage yeah if I weren't a data hoarder
1:54 that would be easy
1:55 [Laughter]
1:58 but you know what are you going to do
2:02 what are you gonna do huh what are you
2:05 gonna do what are you gonna do I'm
2:08 trying to quit apps here hold please
2:11 welcome everybody to the AI learning lab
2:15 we will get started here shortly as
2:18 people gather
2:20 say hi to one another
2:23 print hello world by the way 10 out of
2:25 10 on the name print hello world love
2:27 that name Stevo tapping them
2:30 uh Emilio's wife yes real life problem
2:34 so Kyle Stevo it's going down seriously
2:36 I thought about just throwing what was
2:39 that
2:40 just throwing darts at it seriously
2:42 that's kind of how it is
2:44 get you one of those external hhds
2:49 uh but here's my problem with external
2:51 hhds is I've got too many of them and I
2:54 like I'm good with them for about a
2:57 month or two and then I kind of forgot I
2:59 forget to hook them up or I forget to
3:00 take them with me and then they just end
3:02 up in a corner and then I'm like wait
3:04 what was on that one is that the one
3:05 that had the photo library or was it the
3:07 other one
3:08 I'm just waiting for at some point
3:10 they'll come up with infinite storage
3:12 you know for a nickel and I'll just take
3:15 all my drives and just dump it somewhere
3:16 and then GPT it so I can just find stuff
3:20 um
3:21 welcome everybody let's see if we can
3:23 get some folks in here um share the live
3:26 if you'd be so kind and
3:30 that would be Swale
3:35 we'll get some people in here
3:39 all right the hair is looking special
3:42 tonight it ain't good well it's it's
3:44 sort of sort of behaving
3:47 um Winston how are you sir
3:50 welcome
3:53 shared alive with five more friends
3:54 thank you Stevo
3:57 what did you think of the hey gen
3:59 webinar
4:00 um
4:03 my big takeaway from the hey gen webinar
4:06 was they don't have any [ __ ] clue
4:09 what they have on their hands they have
4:12 created a [ __ ] beast of a product and
4:15 he basically said this was a side gig of
4:18 one of our engineers
4:19 laughs
4:21 and we just kind of put it out there and
4:23 because they didn't get any traction on
4:24 it for three three weeks or whatever
4:26 because no one could find it
4:29 um
4:31 they assumed it was kind of a dud and
4:34 then when people actually discovered it
4:35 they're like holy [ __ ] that guy has no
4:39 idea this is the product of his company
4:42 the the the synthesizing voice and
4:44 making avatars talk all that [ __ ]
4:46 there's those companies are a dime a
4:48 dozen right now
4:50 the the video translation I mean like
4:56 I I was I was a little gobsmacked
4:59 how much of an afterthought the product
5:01 is how good it is and how the co-founder
5:05 of the company has no [ __ ] idea what
5:07 he has on his hands they had a backlog
5:10 of 570
5:12 000 videos or something like that or 51
5:14 000 I was some crazy amount
5:17 um my son is attending college for BS
5:20 and cyber security excellent choice tell
5:22 him to move straight to Vegas and go
5:23 work for MGM
5:27 Marla does he I assume he knows about
5:30 the MGM hack they've they've been in a
5:32 three-day a three-day Cyber attack where
5:35 they've got him they must have gotten
5:37 root level to everything because all the
5:39 games are down the hotel rooms that have
5:42 like electric blinds and locking doors
5:45 nothing's working
5:47 they can't check anyone in they can't
5:48 process any money
5:50 it's it's a bad one
5:53 so yeah I think cyber security is an
5:55 excellent choice because you know and
5:58 and you know your son should be aware of
6:00 things like worm GPT that's relatively
6:03 new on the scene which is an autonomous
6:05 agent built on a open source large
6:07 language model designed to sell to
6:09 hackers for 100 bucks a month that they
6:13 can just make autonomous agent go out
6:15 there and do stuff
6:17 um let me get started here welcome
6:18 everyone my name is Kyle Shannon this is
6:19 the AI learning lab that is the AI
6:21 learning lab we also have
6:24 yeah Ally Ally the cute little AI
6:27 learning lab huh how cute is that
6:31 um that image by the way was made with a
6:34 thing called ideogram and it can do text
6:37 it can do images it can do text the
6:40 other thing
6:41 that we'll talk about here is if you're
6:44 new to generative AI if you've not
6:46 played with it I just gave a talk
6:47 tonight at the uh Colorado University
6:51 school for uh for Public Policy or I
6:55 forget the exact name of it basically
6:57 democracy and public policy School
7:00 champ
7:11 they're not going to get us we're good
7:13 thank you though thank you thank you for
7:16 protecting us
7:18 uh
7:21 but it was fascinating I mean it you
7:23 know it's a school they haven't really
7:24 taken a position on AI yet which I find
7:26 astounding
7:29 um
7:30 and you know people in the room were
7:32 some combination of like been in it for
7:35 a decade and are cynical about it to
7:38 haven't really played with it don't know
7:40 anything about it and everyone in
7:42 between and it was interesting anyway if
7:44 you have not played with chat GPT go
7:46 there right now chat.openai.com
7:49 and that's the official chat gbt website
7:51 just go there and start playing just do
7:53 it now public service announcement I
7:55 don't make anything of it I don't give a
7:56 [ __ ] if you pay them or not but I would
7:58 I do uh I think it's worth paying for
8:02 and then uh and then uh if you don't
8:05 know what to say there if you're like
8:06 completely new to this world of
8:08 generative AI prompts.chat that little
8:10 document will will it's like a very
8:13 basic document with a bunch of prompts
8:15 in it but some explanation of how these
8:17 things work
8:18 so that should help
8:20 um the way the channel Works pop any
8:22 comments or questions down below I will
8:24 do my best to answer them and then uh
8:27 yeah we'll get going we'll get going
8:30 we'll have some fun we'll we'll do some
8:31 we'll do some wacky hijinks I like wacky
8:34 High Jinks I don't know about you but I
8:37 am a fan of the wacky hijinks so we'll
8:39 do some wacky hijinks and talk about AI
8:41 might get a little philosophical get you
8:43 know all Jordan Peterson and then we'll
8:46 get all I don't know Jed clamp it
8:49 this is the Jed Clampett voice remember
8:51 Jed Clampett Beverly Hillbillies no
8:54 anyone
8:57 I know all you Irregulars thank you seen
9:01 that that's not champ that's cyber
9:03 security exactly you rang uh
9:08 uh let's see the wife wasn't too happy
9:10 oh wait what is going on
9:13 about the very early get up for the uh
9:16 for the hey gen thing yeah that was a
9:18 little early I suppose
9:20 Kyle sir I have a question yes Ron what
9:23 is it
9:24 um my toilet is Flushing on its own how
9:27 do I fix that all right hang on
9:30 we can solve this
9:41 all right let's see how are we gonna do
9:45 it so if you haven't seen chat gbt
9:47 before this is it it's an unassuming
9:49 little beast isn't it
9:51 um
9:56 you are a master plumber
9:58 and understand the intricacies
10:01 of the modern
10:05 Plumbing lexicon period
10:09 I have a toilet that's flushing on its
10:11 own period
10:13 can you help me diagnose
10:17 what's going on and how to fix it
10:21 [Laughter]
10:23 I can certainly help diagnose and
10:26 potentially fix the issue
10:29 flapper valve seal well I could have
10:31 told you this Ron the most common cause
10:33 of a toilet flushing on its own is a
10:35 faulty flapper valve seal the flapper is
10:37 the rubber or the piece on the bottom of
10:39 the tank that covers the flush valve if
10:41 it's not sealing property the water can
10:43 slowly lean from the tank to the Bowl
10:45 causing the toilet to constantly refill
10:47 and flush to fix this issue you're going
10:49 to try adjusting or replacing the
10:51 flapper valve
10:53 C solution turn off the water supply to
10:56 the toilet flush it to drain most of the
10:58 water out of the tank inspect it see if
11:00 it's worn or damaged replace it ensure
11:03 that the new flapper creates a nice
11:04 tight seal when closed
11:07 your overflow tube it doesn't sound like
11:09 an overflow tube to me though
11:12 and the fill valve yeah that's generally
11:15 if it just keeps running the Overflow
11:17 tube and the fill valve or those things
11:18 water pressure issues doesn't sound like
11:20 that
11:21 leaking flush handle
11:23 nah it doesn't sound like that foreign
11:26 objects or debris do you have poop in
11:28 your toilet maybe maybe you've got some
11:30 poop in your toilet maybe that's the
11:31 problem
11:33 step number one take all the poop out of
11:36 your toilet step number two don't put
11:37 any more poop back in there
11:39 I'm going with flapper valve I'm going
11:43 flapper valve
11:45 welcome to the AI learning lab and
11:47 plumbing plumbing advice simple or
11:50 Emporium
11:56 as jokey and silly as that was I mean
11:59 I've been using Chachi PT to diagnose
12:02 car issues and
12:04 um all sorts of [ __ ] home issues
12:06 electric issues
12:10 um so yeah yeah you can do that you can
12:13 do it you too can make money with chat
12:17 JP day
12:20 all right welcome
12:24 you don't have to summon Jed clamp up
12:26 with jazz PPT here's this yeah now we
12:30 got a story about a man named ahead
12:39 and now the ground came some bubbling
12:42 crude oil that is
12:45 Texas Tea
12:50 oh yeah
12:52 [Laughter]
12:54 all right flap on flap off the flapper
12:58 that's good that's good that's good 90s
13:01 that's good 90s uh commercial PTSD
13:04 everything covered here exactly
13:09 oh by the way the shirt tonight League
13:11 of Rock
13:20 I'm about as qualified for plumbing
13:22 advice as I am for AI advice but I give
13:25 it anyway mansplaining is a Surface
13:27 you're welcome
13:31 me and chat GPT we got you covered
13:34 um hello everyone hey Nancy with shaking
13:36 uh um you like the ants you like the Ann
13:40 Sullivan of Plumbing via chat GPT a
13:43 perfect solution AI is going to help
13:46 customer service reps everywhere I'll
13:48 tell you what with the when you start
13:51 having conversations with pie if you
13:53 haven't done that yet shame on you
13:55 especially if you've been here before
13:58 Go download the PI app Pi data AI is the
14:01 website but they also have an app I
14:04 think it's on both Android and iOS Pi
14:07 personal assistant go find it it's from
14:10 it's from inflection
14:12 and
14:13 start talking with that thing and what
14:16 you realize pretty quickly when you talk
14:18 to Pi
14:20 is that
14:22 that's how all customer service should
14:25 be moving forward I would
14:27 by ten thousand by a ten thousand time
14:32 uh
14:34 ten thousand votes to one
14:37 I would rather talk to a synthesized bot
14:41 that's tied to a database that that
14:43 knows all the [ __ ] that I'm gonna ask
14:45 about then talk to a human being that
14:47 hasn't been trained up well enough and
14:48 can't do anything it doesn't have any
14:50 authority to do it so I think customer
14:53 service is going to get
14:55 dramatically better
14:57 and what's here's here's the here's the
15:00 weird thing
15:01 companies are gonna are gonna start
15:03 changing out their call centers for AI
15:06 Bots because it's cheap it's going to be
15:09 cheaper
15:10 and
15:12 we as customers are going to get
15:14 dramatically better customer service I
15:16 think customer satisfaction is going to
15:17 go up for big companies when they make
15:19 this switch
15:21 because what the Smart Companies will do
15:23 is they'll say
15:25 um
15:26 you know people like talking to the Bots
15:28 Better Than People anyway but when the
15:30 Bots hit a snag and can't actually solve
15:33 a problem they'll escalate it to a human
15:35 that's actually trained
15:37 and actually has the authority to do
15:39 something you'll get you'll get
15:40 appropriate escalation
15:43 just to build man I don't know how to
15:45 build that I the scaling of that is
15:47 something crazy and the data ingestion
15:49 and management of that is something
15:51 crazy but I'm telling you the the
15:53 company or the person that makes the it
15:56 just picks up the phone and starts
15:58 talking to you and it knows what the
16:00 [ __ ] it's talking about they are gonna
16:02 print money they are gonna make a
16:05 fortune
16:09 uh flip and Fortune all right Firefly
16:13 great to be here great to have you here
16:14 Firefly welcome
16:16 welcome welcome somebody sent me a
16:19 little crown that was a lovely little
16:20 Crown I got the little pink Rosy Cheeks
16:22 but I was over in that box
16:26 um
16:27 wow I'm wired on coffee and obviously
16:31 easily impressed with myself did 789
16:35 likes my new best
16:40 oh my God we're up to almost 5 000 likes
16:43 already Winston you you were a
16:45 significant percentage of that I don't
16:47 know about you either you're regulars
16:49 Winston's almost up to a thousand likes
16:51 and we're only at 5 000 total
16:53 what are you napping
16:56 I mean sure it's what is it 10 o'clock
16:58 nine o'clock 8 45
17:01 but that's 10 45 on the East Coast I
17:03 know some of you weirdos are on the east
17:05 coast and then we got freaks in South
17:07 Africa Australia they they're coming in
17:09 from all over the world
17:11 they're setting their alarms why are
17:14 they coming here why why I don't know I
17:16 think it's for the competition I don't
17:18 think it's for me I haven't bought a
17:20 conduit for the Irregulars entertainment
17:22 of themselves you all know that's true
17:25 all right
17:30 Winston's totally a show-off but it is a
17:33 competition it is life is a competition
17:36 life is a cavity old friend
17:43 did you know that did you know you can
17:45 make money
17:47 um
17:47 that she didn't know that that's y'all
17:50 pie was wrong about some stuff and when
17:52 I corrected her she apologized and said
17:55 what did she say hey hang on
17:58 my bad yeah I know my favorite thing
18:01 about pie is when you say something and
18:04 you kind of correct her and if you do it
18:05 in a smarmy kind of way she goes
18:09 she can't she can't laugh right so she
18:12 tries to to like speak out h-e-h-e and
18:15 she goes
18:19 it's very disturbing
18:23 hahaha
18:24 oh man oh by the way Emilio's wife I'm
18:27 gonna we're gonna do some experiments
18:29 here let me just answer a few questions
18:30 we're gonna do an experiment with your
18:31 data set
18:33 so because it's something I've got open
18:36 enrollment I've got like seven days to
18:38 do my open enrollment luckily I didn't
18:39 get a PDF like you just showed me
18:41 because oh my God it's awful
18:44 um
18:45 all right let me let me see if there's
18:47 any other questions here it's been a lot
18:49 of hours today on pie does greatly
18:51 improve your prompts yep hey everyone
18:53 farmer here also oh hey oh she's she's
18:56 back welcome back Hey sir I wanted to
18:58 build an OCR trainer for normal and good
19:02 purposes
19:04 can we Workshop prompts
19:07 an OCR trainer
19:11 I don't know what an OCR trainer is
19:12 explain more what that is like you want
19:14 to use Bing or Bard to read
19:18 um like images that have text in them
19:19 and then OCR the text out of them
19:23 we can we can try that maybe we'll do a
19:25 little experimenting tonight because I'm
19:27 trying I'm trying a thing with um
19:30 with Emilio wife's Insurance choices
19:35 you'll see this this spreadsheet's a
19:37 goddamn nightmare
19:39 um and we'll we're gonna see if we can
19:41 get it to work so we might as well do
19:43 some OCR stuff in there too
19:46 Gemini nears release small group of
19:49 companies given Early Access Ted looks
19:51 at life holy crap okay that's a big deal
19:53 that's a big deal that's a big deal I'm
19:56 a level 17 irregular total I like totals
20:00 level 17 Clinton level 17. I don't know
20:03 all you level 12ers are you like are you
20:05 content with your lives
20:08 I mean I hope you're feeling like I hope
20:10 a left the level of Shame you must feel
20:12 at a level 12 knowing that Clemson is
20:15 17.
20:16 and proclaiming himself a total
20:21 so sad
20:22 so sad
20:25 um
20:27 Winston is a show off now the
20:29 irregular's starting to they're starting
20:31 to Feud we're gonna have a little like
20:32 irregular Civil War in here thank you
20:34 Stevo
20:37 oh man how does one level up I have no
20:40 [ __ ] idea I just every now and then
20:42 it says so and so reach level 17. I
20:45 think
20:45 diamonds are I don't I listen
20:49 as as the young people in here say oh
20:52 isn't that cute look at the elderly
20:53 teaching each other how to use AI so oh
20:57 that's lovely Winston thank you very
20:59 much for that that was a good one oh
21:02 Winston level 17 boom take that clip
21:08 you can't just sit up on the top of the
21:10 mountain like proclaiming Victory not in
21:13 this house
21:14 all right let's let's go do some let's
21:15 go play
21:17 uh if you if you have questions feel
21:19 free to pop them down below uh I'm gonna
21:21 show you
21:24 this thing
21:27 so this is I assume there's no there's
21:29 no like this is just a generic PDF right
21:32 so okay
21:34 so
21:36 look at this horrific [ __ ] document
21:38 remember when I said I think one of the
21:39 killer apps of AI is that it's going to
21:42 take the ridiculously complicated and
21:46 um simplify it so there's your Kaiser
21:48 Permanente plan there's medical plan one
21:52 medical plan 2A medical plan to B
21:56 Medical Plan Three HSA optional and then
21:59 you have all these [ __ ] numbers and
22:01 none of us know what them they [ __ ]
22:02 mean and then oh and then there's more
22:05 and it goes on and then there's more and
22:08 it goes on
22:09 and now now there's Moda so here's a
22:13 here's another one and there's just like
22:15 this sea of [ __ ] numbers and none of
22:18 us knows what it means and you know what
22:20 I you know what this is like this is
22:22 like in the government you know how the
22:23 government has compartmentalization
22:25 where the the way they keep top secret
22:28 is no one knows the whole thing I bet
22:30 that's how insurance companies work
22:32 where there's one person that assembles
22:34 this spreadsheet but they don't know
22:36 what any of the numbers mean and then
22:38 there's whole divisions that are just
22:40 responsible for a column or a row or a
22:42 cell
22:44 all right so she's got this so
22:47 so she's got seven days to pick from
22:50 from all this [ __ ]
22:51 [Laughter]
22:54 [ __ ] Healthcare in America those of
22:56 you not in America this is what we
22:59 [ __ ] deal with so what ends up
23:00 happening is this so our company spends
23:04 I don't know we like we we pay a lot of
23:07 our of our employees health health
23:09 insurance it's it's some ridiculous
23:12 amount of money we're a very small
23:13 company and we're paying I don't know
23:15 150 or 200 Grand a year and then the
23:18 employees pay a bucket on top of that
23:20 and then and then when you go to the
23:23 doctor they're like oh no I'm sorry
23:24 that's not covered that's you're gonna
23:26 have to pay that out of one of these
23:28 whatever you pay comes out of one of
23:30 these numbers they don't tell you which
23:31 one and like oh I'm sorry that's out of
23:33 network or it just anyway it it's
23:36 criminal so that document
23:39 we're gonna go now try to do something
23:41 with it with chat JPay Tay and we're
23:44 gonna do we're gonna do chat chipity
23:48 I think I think we'll do both things in
23:50 chat gbt so wait uh oh can only select
23:53 from Moda no Kaiser okay great good
23:56 piece of information to know
23:58 so we're going to start with
24:01 chat with your PDF and then I heard a
24:05 hack on this okay so
24:09 so for for those of you that don't know
24:13 chat GPT when you pay the 20 bucks a
24:16 month you get access to gpt4
24:20 you get access to this thing called
24:21 Advanced Data analysis which is really
24:24 insane and we might play with that and
24:26 then you get an you get access to the
24:28 thing called plugins
24:30 within plugins
24:36 um you can install lots of them but in
24:38 any given chat session you can only
24:40 activate up to three and I'm gonna just
24:44 pick one right now
24:47 there is a plug-in called
24:51 chat chat with PDF ask your PDF I think
24:56 it's ask your PDF
24:57 I think it's ask your PDF
25:00 so we're going to turn that on we're
25:01 going to turn web pilot off now I heard
25:03 a hack okay so here's the hack
25:06 someone told me
25:08 oh I might have to create an account but
25:10 that's okay
25:11 for Emilio's wife we'll do it
25:15 we're gonna go to ask
25:20 your
25:26 pdf.com
25:32 upload document okay
25:36 so we're going to upload this document
25:38 healthcareplans.pdf
25:42 analyzing document all right
25:45 so far so good so so here's what I heard
25:49 so I can
25:54 I don't know if I could well if I've got
25:56 a PDF that's on the web I can just put
25:59 that URL in
26:01 um
26:02 in
26:06 chat GPT with the ask your PDF plugin
26:09 and it'll analyze it but what I heard is
26:11 better is that you upload the thing
26:14 to ask your PDF
26:18 and then there's supposed to be a number
26:20 here
26:24 if anyone knows how to do this let me
26:26 know
26:27 resume conversation here we go ID Okay
26:31 so
26:33 I might ask your PDF let me make this
26:35 bigger
26:39 the summary states there are no lifetime
26:41 maximum maximums on any of the plans
26:43 okay so so this is already started so so
26:46 I've uploaded this healthcare plan
26:48 document it's got this ID right here so
26:51 I'm going to copy that
26:53 and then we're going to go over to
26:54 chatgpt and apparently this so so
26:59 ask your PDF has already done some
27:01 pre-processing on this PDF it clearly
27:03 kind of understood what it was but I'm
27:05 going to say
27:07 um
27:07 do you do
27:11 you understand
27:14 what's in
27:17 the
27:20 PDF with this number
27:24 and then I'm going to paste that big
27:26 long number
27:28 and let's see what it says it should
27:30 fire off the CH ask your PDF yep it
27:32 fired off the ask your PDF plugin and it
27:35 should basically just give us what it
27:36 had over there like yeah this is a
27:39 a thing
27:41 the PDF
27:44 appears to be a document summary
27:46 benefits planned for the 2023-2024 year
27:53 okay so it understands what's in the PDF
27:57 the document provides details on various
27:59 Medical Services
28:02 see so so what you're gonna have to do
28:05 Emilio's wife is I go through here I
28:07 don't quite know what to ask it so so
28:09 you you might need well well actually so
28:12 what I'll what I'll do is we'll have
28:15 chat GPT analyze the plans so what were
28:18 the plans you said was it called Moda
28:24 um
28:26 I can only choose from the Moda plans
28:33 Moda right Moda yeah I can only choose
28:37 from the Moda
28:39 plans
28:41 and there are so many numbers and
28:43 options that
28:48 it makes my head spin period
28:52 can you
28:56 describe the Moda options
29:00 and give me a balance between monthly
29:03 premium
29:04 and
29:09 deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses
29:13 Etc
29:14 without giving me too much detail
29:21 period
29:24 ideally what I want is a recommendation
29:27 from you that strikes the right balance
29:29 between these two period
29:38 some
29:39 marketers
29:42 show you which of their options is the
29:46 best deal
29:47 period can you do that for me with the
29:50 Moda plans
29:53 now that may be way too much of a prompt
29:55 but like what I guess what I'm trying to
29:59 do here is I'm I'm actually trying to
30:01 imagine so imagine a a version of this
30:04 in the future where we can talk to these
30:06 things
30:07 and because this is this is kind of what
30:10 I would say to a uh to an insurance
30:14 agent so let's see let's see what it
30:16 does
30:18 so it's going to ask your PDF
30:26 certainly let's break down the Moda
30:28 Health Plans based on
30:37 generic 12 bucks for 31 day supply 36
30:41 bucks for 90 day supply so there's the
30:44 pharmacy benefits
30:47 wait Moto plans one through four oh I
30:51 see plans one through four have all the
30:53 same Pharmacy benefits and then five
30:56 through seven have all the same Pharmacy
30:57 benefits
30:59 General notes the individual deductible
31:06 this but this is just for drugs
31:11 plans one through four seem to offer a
31:13 balanced approach
31:18 all right so
31:20 see plans one through four seem to offer
31:22 a balanced approach with reasonable
31:24 costs for generic drugs and preferred
31:26 Brands however the exact monthly premium
31:28 deductible are not mentioned is that
31:31 true I don't know that that's true
31:33 hang on
31:36 where
31:40 is this it
31:43 let me go down
31:45 Moda plans
31:47 out of pocket now it's got the out of
31:50 pocket here
31:52 okay so it hallucinated all right this
31:54 is good to know so hallucinated
31:55 basically told us I couldn't see all the
31:57 [ __ ]
31:58 so let's go yell at it
32:01 um
32:05 I'm looking at the document and the out
32:07 of
32:09 pocket and monthly premiums are
32:11 mentioned
32:13 for the Moda plans
32:17 ammo
32:19 D.A
32:21 plans
32:24 you only showed me the pharmacy
32:28 section
32:30 please look at the entire PDF
32:33 and make sure that you
32:36 understand the entire plan before
32:40 speaking to me
32:45 give that guy give it a little dressing
32:46 down even hey I can't figure it out
32:49 exactly this is all by Design you know
32:58 oh look it has it it fired off the thing
33:00 twice what did it what did it find
33:03 so the first time
33:06 it got back the pharmacy stuff I
33:08 apologize for the oversight
33:13 and this looks like it's got deductibles
33:15 and stuff okay so it basically did two
33:17 different things here we go
33:20 office and virtual care 20 to 30 bucks
33:22 wait for let's break down the Moda plans
33:25 based on the document
33:33 uh
33:56 foreign
33:59 let's break so now it looks like it it
34:02 got us
34:07 some amount of the information but
34:13 okay it it doesn't tell us which plan
34:16 this is and it doesn't tell us the cost
34:19 um
34:25 I'm very disappointed period
34:31 you don't seem to understand
34:35 the document
34:37 period
34:40 there are seven different Moda plans
34:44 you only appear to have given me
34:46 information about one of them and you
34:49 still haven't given me information
34:51 about
34:54 deductibles and out of pocket Etc please
35:02 try to
35:04 look at the entire document
35:07 and give me my options
35:10 we may have to bail on this and go try
35:12 code interpreter
35:19 we can also try I don't know if Claude
35:22 can read PDFs but we can go try Claude I
35:25 haven't really played with it
35:28 I apologize for the oversight let's
35:31 delve deeper Moto plans one through four
35:34 so wait so this says the cost of
35:38 Primary Care office for plans one
35:41 through four is 30 bucks let's go look
35:44 at the actual document
35:47 oh this is [ __ ] maddening
35:51 medical plan one
35:54 primary visits 20 bucks 20 bucks medical
35:58 plan 3 is 25 4 is 25.
36:03 so so it's just wrong so those are all
36:05 wrong okay
36:07 so so this is good we're doing this
36:11 primary care costs
36:15 and incentive care visits 25 wait let me
36:20 go
36:24 primary care now it got it got these
36:27 wrong these these are just wrong
36:30 outpatient no it just got them wrong
36:33 okay
36:34 all right fine uh we're gonna tell chat
36:37 GPT to take a hike although no you know
36:40 what we're gonna do we're gonna go
36:43 what evil mind created that chart I know
36:45 it's it's really bad okay we're gonna go
36:48 try uh Advanced Data analysis let's see
36:51 if this can do PDFs
36:53 um
36:54 DD
36:57 there's more than one way to skin a kid
37:00 we're gonna skin this kit Healthcare
37:03 plans.pdf
37:05 can you Analyze This PDF and tell me
37:08 what it is
37:10 let's just see if it can do that
37:15 Share Bear join welcome share bear
37:17 what's happening
37:19 I'll start by extracting the text from
37:21 the PDF file once I have the text
37:23 content I'll analyze it to determine its
37:25 content and provide a summary good thank
37:28 you share bear loves me some gummies I
37:30 love them gum this gum is tasty
37:33 the extracted content from the PDF
37:35 appears to be related to health care
37:37 plans here's a summary of what I've
37:38 extracted
37:40 the name Kaiser Permanente network is
37:42 repeated multiple times there are
37:45 different plans mentioned
37:47 fine
37:48 would you like a more detailed analysis
37:50 or any other specifications sections
37:53 you'd like to one of the companies is
37:57 moda
37:58 and I'd
38:01 like you to explain
38:05 their plans to there wait hang on there
38:11 plans
38:12 dang it
38:14 plans to me
38:16 as if I were a third grader period
38:21 these plans are purposefully convoluted
38:26 and I'm just trying to make a simple
38:27 choice
38:29 I'm hoping you can help
38:33 I am in deep
38:35 agonizing
38:37 frustratingly
38:40 saucy
38:42 pain
38:44 as a result of trying to understand
38:47 this purposefully
38:49 obfuscated information
38:53 about
38:54 my health as a human being period
38:59 please make the pain stop
39:02 [Music]
39:02 [Laughter]
39:09 let's break it down imagine you have a
39:13 toy store membership card depending on
39:16 which one you want to buy okay
39:18 deductible this is like the entrance fee
39:21 you pay this amount before your
39:22 membership cards start helping you get
39:24 the discount so if you have a hundred
39:26 dollar deductible you pay the first
39:27 hundred dollars on your own out of
39:29 pocket maximum think of this as the
39:31 safety net
39:33 oh my God in network versus out of
39:35 network blah blah
39:38 okay from the document the Moda plans
39:40 seem to offer
39:42 you pay a certain amount 25 30 bucks and
39:45 as your membership card so it's
39:47 continuing to explain it like we're in
39:49 third grade which is cool
39:51 virtual care if you talk to a doctor
39:53 online it's like a virtual toy some
39:56 plans let you do this for free While
39:58 others might ask you for a bit
40:00 specialty Visions okay
40:04 Okay so
40:05 [Music]
40:08 that helps explain things
40:12 generally but I'm hoping that you can
40:15 actually
40:17 look at the specific data for each plan
40:21 give me an overview
40:25 and explain to me
40:30 the pros and cons of each plan period
40:34 at the end of explaining the pros and
40:37 cons
40:38 I'd like you to recommend two plans that
40:42 you feel strike the greatest balance
40:44 between
40:45 small monthly
40:48 premiums and decent coverage
40:55 all right
40:57 let's see
41:03 Absolutely I'll go through the details
41:06 of the mode of plans
41:08 and I'll highlight the pros and cons I I
41:10 have my gut is telling me that code
41:13 interpreter or Advanced Data analysis is
41:15 going to be able to do this better
41:17 because it because it understands what
41:18 what csvs are
41:20 and assuming that it it maintained the
41:23 column structure of the PDF it should be
41:25 able to dump that so it says it seems I
41:27 made an oversight let me correct that
41:30 and extract the details for the Moto
41:32 plan so what did it do here
41:36 Moda compile
41:39 service Clean Service strip so it looks
41:42 like it's stripping out stuff
41:45 it seems I'm having difficulty
41:57 however I can still work with the
41:59 details we have and provide some okay so
42:01 it just choked
42:03 networker
42:05 um let's see
42:07 let me stop generating
42:11 rather than trying to analyze right now
42:14 can you take
42:17 the Moda data
42:24 foreign
42:25 and put it in a data table so that you
42:29 can
42:31 manipulate it
42:33 like any other CSV
42:43 message and conversation not found okay
42:45 so we're going to start over all right
42:46 hang on starting over
42:48 uh that's another thing sometimes these
42:50 things are just they kind of crap the
42:52 bed and you can't do anything so I'm
42:53 gonna say
42:56 this is a PDF of health care plans
42:59 I'd like you
43:02 to
43:06 collect the information for the Moda
43:09 plans
43:15 Moda is a hard word for OCR or for voice
43:18 to text
43:22 and put them in a data frame so that you
43:25 can interact with them just like any
43:27 other CSV period is that possible
43:34 ah I we are we having fun yet we're
43:37 having fun right we're having fun we're
43:38 having fun by the way for those of you
43:39 that are new here so so what we're
43:41 trying to do is we're trying to do an
43:42 actual real world application
43:45 um one of our lovely Irregulars Emilio's
43:47 wife has this horrific
43:51 set of options which I'm sure we all do
43:53 right now it's open enrollment season
43:55 and here's all the [ __ ] crap you
43:59 gotta sift through and figure out isn't
44:01 it clear all of this look just look at
44:04 these numbers and pick one of these 17
44:06 plans and we'll still screw you and take
44:09 too much money out of your check and
44:11 when you go to get something done we'll
44:13 refuse to pay it yay in Insurance in
44:17 America the best yay I hope someone in
44:20 here works for one of these God forsaken
44:21 companies
44:24 you should
44:26 hurt at night
44:31 I don't mind most corporations but
44:33 health insurance companies
44:39 bad all right so
44:43 where are we where were we let's see
44:46 um of course I'll start back so it
44:48 appears that it's been successfully
44:50 extracted but the formatting might be
44:52 messy
44:53 I can see references to various plans if
44:56 you proceed it seems I couldn't find any
44:58 sections labeled Moda plan
45:01 oh that's because it's an image
45:05 uh this is painful
45:08 this is [ __ ] painful
45:12 so so they have a logo here but they
45:15 nowhere do they have Moda they've got
45:17 medical plan one Connexus Network
45:21 all right so I assume that's different
45:23 than Kaiser right
45:25 yeah Kaiser Permanente Network okay okay
45:28 so
45:31 Connexus Networks
45:33 c-o-n-n-e-x-u-s so so
45:36 notice what we're having to do here
45:38 we're having to essentially think like
45:40 programmers
45:42 to even be able to ask chat GPT
45:45 how to look at this document now if we
45:48 had this as a CSV file which I'm sure we
45:51 could probably get it as one it it would
45:53 probably be easier
45:55 but
45:57 this is where just getting really
46:00 curious with these tools is really
46:02 important so so what we're going to say
46:04 is this
46:05 um
46:06 the Moda plans are the ones that are
46:09 connected to the Connexus
46:13 Network period can you pull the data
46:17 related to that Network
46:20 and put it in a day but
46:25 data table for us
46:30 no not save the table data table come on
46:34 you dumb dumb
46:38 sure I'll look for the sections related
46:41 to the Connexus Network
46:46 [Music]
46:47 what are we gonna name this collection
46:50 of doctors that refuse to do any work uh
46:53 let's call it Connexus it sounds like
46:56 connection and Lexus because I want a
46:59 new Lexus
47:01 I would like the Lexus 450 XL gold
47:05 platinum diamond reserve the 2024 model
47:09 so Connexus will get me my new car I
47:14 apologize for the inconvenience it
47:15 appears that extracting text from the
47:17 PDF might be more challenging let me
47:19 take a different approach
47:21 so now I'm starting to get as mad at
47:22 Chachi BT as I am at the insurance
47:24 companies
47:27 what did he do did it just stop
47:30 wait let's take a different approach if
47:32 you can provide a deep brief description
47:34 of the layout of the document
47:36 oh God
47:39 now I want you to be magic
47:43 is this text yeah plans one to four
47:48 plans one through four
47:51 plans continued
47:53 okay so we can say
48:04 sure the Moda plans have bold text at
48:08 the top of the pages that say plans 1-4
48:14 and another set of plans marked
48:18 plans 5-7
48:23 please gather the information from those
48:27 seven plans
48:28 so that we can start making a decision
48:33 all right let's see if we can get
48:35 something here
48:36 I'll give this one more shot we'll see
48:38 we'll see if we can get it to at least
48:40 grab the data and if not I'm gonna I'm
48:42 gonna pop it over into Claude because I
48:47 think Claude it'll just be interesting
48:49 to see can Claude do this better than
48:51 than chat gbt I doubt it but you never
48:53 know
48:54 and then I don't think I don't think we
48:57 can upload this to Bard
48:59 I don't think we can upload this to Bing
49:03 because both of both of those can read
49:04 images
49:06 so it says it still can't
49:08 they're still not able to get it
49:11 um there's one other way to maybe skin
49:13 this cat hang on
49:16 let's see
49:19 uh I think this will work
49:32 copy
49:35 foreign
49:42 [Laughter]
49:50 it's like Madden except not fun
49:54 that didn't work did it nope
50:01 uh
50:04 delete let's go see if chat gbt figured
50:07 anything out
50:08 I guess I'm not
50:12 oh wait
50:14 great we managed to extract headers from
50:16 different plan sections
50:22 nope I forgot to import the pandas
50:25 Library
50:28 all right so now it's making its own
50:29 data frame so it looks like maybe it got
50:31 some some data for the data frames
50:36 it's gonna It's Gonna Fill In missing
50:39 values with not a number see they've got
50:41 they've got collapsed cells and stuff
50:43 like that so the thing that makes it
50:45 easier to read as a human makes it much
50:47 harder for the
50:49 for the computer to parse the data but
50:53 it's it's attempting to do its thing so
50:55 what you're looking at here if if you've
50:57 joined new this is code interpreter or
51:00 Advanced Data analysis within chat gbt
51:03 we uploaded a PDF of Health Plan
51:05 information and now we're just trying to
51:08 get it to understand the data in the PDF
51:11 you know as if it were in a CSV
51:14 and it's basically sort of coaching
51:17 itself through trying to make it work
51:19 and I have a feeling it's going to fail
51:21 miserably yeah
51:25 the additional cost to your column seem
51:27 to have fewer entries than the plan name
51:29 and network name columns that this
51:30 mismatch is what's causing me to have a
51:34 headache
51:37 chat EVT is like I need a [ __ ] drink
51:40 [Laughter]
51:46 um would you like me to proceed with any
51:48 specific analysis or manipulations of
51:50 the data
51:52 um
51:54 why yes I'd like you to help me
51:56 understand the specifics of each of the
51:59 seven plans and then recommend two of
52:02 them that you think strike the best
52:04 balance between cost and coverage
52:11 I have zero confidence that's gonna work
52:15 zero confidence zero confidence
52:23 coverage this would include benefits
52:25 medical services covered any extra
52:26 features Etc cost this generally
52:29 includes premiums deductibles
52:30 out-of-pocket maximums co-payments Etc
52:35 plan one we don't have the detailed
52:37 specifics to go behind no additional
52:40 specifics
52:42 no it's got nothing wait plan plan five
52:47 no no this is a fail fail me fail all
52:50 right done now we're gonna go try Claude
52:54 I I I I I I hate to be the bearer of bad
52:58 news Amelia's life I think you might
53:01 need to actually look at these stupid
53:03 documents uh but let's try Claude
53:08 uh
53:09 uh when AI couldn't save the day
53:11 actually
53:13 um
53:14 what what would potentially do it if if
53:20 Clyde can't do it is if you got if you
53:22 reached out to the to the HR people
53:26 or the insurance people it's probably
53:28 the HR people whoever's the managing
53:30 group dartboard strategy exactly
53:33 um reach out to the people that gave you
53:35 this PDF and see if they can get access
53:37 to the
53:39 to the CSV to the to the Excel files
53:42 from Moda
53:44 um that was used to put in that stupid
53:46 [ __ ] chart they gave you start a new
53:48 chat okay so we're gonna say
53:50 um
53:53 I let's see I
53:58 am allowed to
54:03 only
54:05 choose
54:09 Moda plans
54:12 in this Healthcare document there are
54:17 seven plans
54:25 from Moda
54:27 and I want to
54:34 understand
54:36 the pros and cons of each of them
54:40 period can you help me analyze
54:45 the details of each of the seven plans
54:50 all right let's see what Claude does
54:52 with this thing
54:54 the last time I tried a PDF with Claude
54:57 it did not like it at all
55:04 based on the healthcare plan document
55:05 here's a comparisons Moto plan one
55:07 Connexus Network that seems right
55:10 400 deductible
55:13 oh this is looking right hang on hold on
55:16 is Claude coming to our rescue
55:23 plan one
55:25 hundred dollar copay wait Moda plans
55:28 only
55:32 what did it say
55:42 400 individual 1500 family deductible is
55:47 that right
55:57 foreign
56:00 I can't read this document
56:03 100 copay where's the oh continue that's
56:07 why
56:08 okay plan one
56:10 four hundred dollar deductible 1500 okay
56:13 that looks right and then plan two was
56:15 800 2700 okay let's go let's go back to
56:18 cloudy cloudy Claude
56:26 in some remote plans
56:28 one to four have co-pays
56:30 and lower deductibles while five and
56:32 seven have coinsurance and higher
56:35 deductibles
56:36 lower numbered plans
56:42 have lower out-of-pocket Maxes Moda 6
56:45 has the lowest deductible and out of
56:47 pocket
56:48 oh my God like even this thing
56:51 explaining it simply is making my head
56:55 [ __ ] explode
56:57 um
57:00 listen comma I'm a dumb dumb and
57:05 even your simple explanation at the
57:07 bottom is confusing me
57:10 beyond my imagination period
57:14 I went to school period I read stuff
57:17 period I know how to use a calculator
57:20 period
57:22 why is this so hard to understand
57:23 question mark
57:26 can you please
57:28 explain to me
57:30 the difference between
57:33 the one through four plans and the five
57:36 through seven plans
57:38 even more simply
57:41 now was was all of that
57:45 that shame showing off necessary no it
57:50 makes me feel better I understand health
57:52 insurance can be confusing so let me try
57:54 explaining
57:56 plans one to four you have a co-pay for
57:59 a doctor the deductible and out of
58:01 pocket are lower
58:03 you start getting coverage right away
58:05 since many services have co-pays in the
58:08 deductible is lower
58:09 five to seven you pay the percentage of
58:12 costs coinsurance after meeting the
58:15 deductible for example you might pay 25
58:17 percent oh I get it
58:19 so this is actually helping okay
58:21 Emilio's wife so I don't know if you can
58:23 understand this [ __ ] so basically
58:26 the okay so okay so this is interesting
58:29 okay so now so so here's now here's what
58:32 I want to understand
58:33 okay I get it conceptually now can you
58:36 please
58:37 do the analysis
58:40 and help me determine
58:45 what is going to cost me
58:50 the least on an annual basis for the
58:54 most coverage
58:56 assuming
58:59 average
59:02 doctor visits for a Gen X couple
59:10 this is actually kind of cool I mean the
59:12 fact that the fact that Claude could
59:14 figure this out and chat EBT couldn't
59:16 this is a really good example of
59:20 um
59:21 the reason to kind of have so so one of
59:24 the things I you know I show all the
59:26 time is I've got these different tools
59:28 right I've got this is the adults table
59:30 the the the these are the biggies right
59:34 and then this is the Kids Table
59:37 and there's seven of them right there's
59:39 CH there's Chachi PT Claude bard
59:42 Bing perplexity I don't really use
59:45 that's just there to play with pi I
59:47 don't really use other than to talk to
59:48 it Poe I don't really use so Bing so
59:51 there's kind of four that are my go-to's
59:52 these these three plus Bing
59:55 and so this is a really good example
59:56 where chat GPT both with plugins and
59:59 code interpreter didn't do this well
1:00:03 oh look what it did here this is cool
1:00:05 this is really cool
1:00:08 okay let's run through an example
1:00:10 assumptions you and your spouse are in
1:00:12 your 40s Gen X ooh
1:00:14 this obviously doesn't know what Gen X
1:00:17 is
1:00:18 um you plan to get physical routines you
1:00:21 plan to take one generic prescription
1:00:23 regularly
1:00:24 um so so so let's see
1:00:27 um
1:00:29 let's up the ages to
1:00:31 late 50s and daily prescriptions to
1:00:35 three
1:00:38 I have no idea what's going on in your
1:00:40 life with me Leo's wife but I know in
1:00:42 mine that should get us in the
1:00:44 neighborhood
1:00:50 mm-hmm
1:00:53 okay here's a comparison how much does
1:00:55 Claude cost claude's free
1:00:58 um but they just announced Claude Pro
1:01:00 and so what I think they did was they
1:01:02 actually
1:01:04 they're actually reducing the amount of
1:01:08 uh interactions you can get
1:01:11 for the free version and then if you pay
1:01:14 the 20 bucks you can do more the the
1:01:16 real power thing about Claude is that it
1:01:19 can take big documents and apparently it
1:01:21 can read health insurance plans better
1:01:24 than chat gbt okay here's the cost
1:01:26 you're in your late 50s three generic
1:01:29 prescriptions a day two sick visits one
1:01:31 urgent care routine physical
1:01:34 so
1:01:35 so it this is interesting it kind of did
1:01:38 this like like a like a like a food
1:01:43 um
1:01:43 whatever you call it a food uh
1:01:48 like a Yelp right with the three dollar
1:01:50 signs so Moda plan one the premiums are
1:01:54 three dollar signs the co-pays are three
1:01:55 dollar signs the total is three dollar
1:01:57 signs Moda plan two the premiums are
1:02:00 lower
1:02:01 the co-pays are high and the overall is
1:02:04 high Plan Three is
1:02:07 small premiums all right let's see
1:02:13 so all of the totals are about the same
1:02:18 um
1:02:20 with increased prescriptions Moda plan
1:02:22 one Remains the lowest cost option oh so
1:02:26 this is weird
1:02:28 so it looks like you only gave me
1:02:33 dollar signs where actual numbers would
1:02:36 be period did you do that on purpose
1:02:40 question mark if not can you please give
1:02:44 me this list with actual numbers
1:02:48 from the plan
1:02:53 that's what I wanted a cost estimator
1:02:55 there you go okay cool
1:03:00 so we're getting there emilios this is
1:03:02 why you've come all these nights this
1:03:05 was all your plan this was your plan all
1:03:07 along show up for months every single
1:03:08 night so that I would help you figure
1:03:11 out
1:03:11 your plan you're absolutely right as an
1:03:15 AI assistant without access to specific
1:03:16 plan details okay if forgot it had the
1:03:19 plans okay so we're gonna re-upload the
1:03:21 plan
1:03:29 it looks like you may have
1:03:31 forgotten that I uploaded the plan
1:03:33 earlier period attached is the PDF that
1:03:38 has
1:03:39 a number of plans including Modas plans
1:03:43 one through seven
1:03:46 period
1:03:49 Moda
1:03:54 please give me
1:03:59 please give me a cost estimator like you
1:04:02 did before but now use the actual data
1:04:06 from this PDF
1:04:10 all right let's see
1:04:12 it finally paid off exactly
1:04:17 9 30 Denver time and 21 000 likes I mean
1:04:21 I'm just sitting here like banging my
1:04:23 head against the keyboard trying to get
1:04:25 these tools to behave in any way like
1:04:28 they can help us
1:04:31 but listen hey not for nothing it can
1:04:33 write you a country song about your
1:04:36 chubby dog or a turtle at the county
1:04:38 fair data can do really well
1:04:40 you're right my apologies now that
1:04:42 you've provided the health plans and
1:04:44 details okay assumptions so it did
1:04:46 remember so now it's still giving us the
1:04:48 weird ass
1:04:50 dollar signs only based on the plans
1:04:55 oh and I've only got three messages
1:04:57 remaining until 2 A.M so we get we get
1:05:00 three more shots to do this
1:05:03 again you didn't include any actual
1:05:06 numbers period please look at the PDF
1:05:10 and the actual numbers of the plans
1:05:12 before doing your cost estimators
1:05:19 so the I'm a librarian the the
1:05:23 um
1:05:23 what's it called rate limiting they call
1:05:26 it the rate limiting I'm hitting right
1:05:28 now is
1:05:29 um
1:05:30 it would be five times this if I were
1:05:33 paying the 20 bucks a month
1:05:42 ask it to do a cost analysis given
1:05:46 certain parameters okay we can try that
1:05:49 ah here we go
1:05:52 oh
1:05:54 this is actually pretty cool
1:06:07 so this is same assumptions Moda plan
1:06:09 one premiums 732 a month offensive
1:06:14 87 91 annually co-pays three grand total
1:06:18 11
1:06:19 000.
1:06:21 or 11 800 plan two less per month
1:06:29 3300 in copays but 11 000 total so
1:06:35 that's looking pretty good
1:06:45 all right so the overall annual it looks
1:06:48 like
1:06:49 it looks like plans one and two are the
1:06:51 most expensive by a lot
1:06:57 [Music]
1:06:57 um
1:07:03 co-insurance
1:07:05 forty three hundred uh
1:07:14 let's see
1:07:25 this is perfect can you now
1:07:31 put in some of the elements
1:07:34 of things like
1:07:38 prescription payments doctor visits Etc
1:07:41 so I can see what I get for my money
1:07:49 um
1:07:54 so so it seems to me Emilio's wife that
1:07:58 you you should take take this document
1:08:01 upload it to clutch seems like it can
1:08:03 actually do this
1:08:06 and and you know kind of more
1:08:08 specifically what you want to look at
1:08:09 like it can at least explain [ __ ] to you
1:08:11 let's see what it does with this next
1:08:12 I've got I've got two two uh prompts
1:08:15 left
1:08:18 you're right breaking out okay
1:08:25 oh I see what it was doing it it was
1:08:28 doing the the co-pays
1:08:33 oh that's interesting oh I see what it
1:08:36 was doing okay
1:08:37 so so it was sort of it was sort of
1:08:41 um in this in this analysis up here
1:08:43 here's your premiums you're paying and
1:08:45 then saying your co-pays are 3 700 I was
1:08:48 trying to figure out where that came
1:08:49 from and it it had six Primary Care
1:08:52 visits 240 bucks that's based on that
1:08:55 rate two Urgent Care visits I guess it's
1:08:57 40 bucks an Urgent Care visit two
1:08:59 specialist visits six prescription drugs
1:09:02 total copay
1:09:04 um so yeah this this could this could
1:09:07 probably give it to you let me know if
1:09:09 breaking out estimates for co-pays
1:09:11 um I think I've got one message left so
1:09:15 based on everything you see here
1:09:19 can you give me a recommendation of the
1:09:23 two plans that you feel represent the
1:09:26 best deal
1:09:28 for me and my spouse
1:09:38 [Music]
1:09:44 one of my meds is a hundred K and I need
1:09:47 it every six months unbelievable I know
1:09:50 I've got kids with chronic lyme disease
1:09:53 and [ __ ] nothing is covered nothing
1:09:56 the insurance companies basically go
1:09:59 after doctor's medical licenses if they
1:10:02 try to you know prescribe anything
1:10:04 outside of their horrific
1:10:07 oh it's uh it's so criminal it's so
1:10:10 criminal I'm so angry all the time about
1:10:12 this [ __ ]
1:10:13 um based on the plan details and cost
1:10:16 estimates my top two recommendations are
1:10:20 Moda plan one lower premiums at 8 700
1:10:25 annually co-pays for services mean you
1:10:28 pay a fixed dollar amount versus the
1:10:30 co-insurance percentage that's a good
1:10:33 point lower co-pays for office visits
1:10:36 your total estimated cost is 9 200 bucks
1:10:39 although it gave us a different
1:10:41 estimated cost before so so again some
1:10:44 of the math you're gonna have to sort of
1:10:46 check the math here
1:10:49 um
1:10:50 it's saying Moda plan 4 comes in at 6
1:10:53 500 that's not what it's set up here
1:10:55 before
1:10:56 said Moto plan for oh yeah it does
1:11:00 oh wait is that oh yeah
1:11:03 but wait is that what it's set up here
1:11:05 no see up here
1:11:09 it said it was 9600 and down here it's
1:11:12 saying 6500. so it's doing some
1:11:14 hallucinating here but
1:11:17 like I feel like I feel like at least
1:11:19 what you could do with Claude at least
1:11:21 here is have it give you sort of the the
1:11:24 like distill out you know the most
1:11:28 important pieces of each plan and then
1:11:30 you can sort of go back and forth and
1:11:32 check between what Claude did and what's
1:11:34 in that PDF and it'll just at least help
1:11:36 you make sense of it so anyway all right
1:11:40 Rabbit Hole done I'd pick plan five on
1:11:43 my own oh interesting
1:11:45 yeah what what did they say plan five
1:11:47 was plan five
1:11:49 yeah 9 500 so that's the one with
1:11:52 coinsurance so your risk there with
1:11:54 coinsurance is if you've got an
1:11:56 expensive office visit you're paying
1:11:59 higher than the flat the flat fee you'd
1:12:01 pay with plans one through four
1:12:03 all right well there you have it all
1:12:06 right I hope that helped uh
1:12:10 [Music]
1:12:10 [Laughter]
1:12:14 wow
1:12:17 wow
1:12:26 this is the [ __ ] that AI needs to fix
1:12:28 like like
1:12:30 let's assume that insurance companies
1:12:32 are gonna keep being [ __ ] and
1:12:33 they're going to keep doing this right
1:12:34 because you know they will until
1:12:37 someone else buys someone else a
1:12:38 politician
1:12:40 and but if AI can
1:12:45 take all that nonsense and just easily
1:12:48 with all this these complicated
1:12:50 decisions we have to make in our lives
1:12:52 just you know instead of us having to
1:12:55 struggle to figure out which tool to use
1:12:58 we've got some sort of agent that we can
1:13:00 just talk to and go go make [ __ ]
1:13:02 sense of this to me you know my
1:13:05 preferences you know go figure that [ __ ]
1:13:07 out and come back with two
1:13:08 recommendations and you know and they
1:13:11 don't hallucinate and they do actual
1:13:13 math and you know that's kind of the
1:13:15 three year out my you know three to five
1:13:17 years out
1:13:19 these things should be doing a lot of
1:13:21 this [ __ ] for us where
1:13:24 remember when we asked had to actually
1:13:25 look at PDFs with like big columns and
1:13:28 numbers in it and figure that [ __ ] out
1:13:30 that's what we'll be saying in five
1:13:31 years we ain't there now
1:13:36 oh my God what a nightmare that was all
1:13:39 right
1:13:40 let's get going here way to hijack alive
1:13:42 yeah Emilio's wife what are you thinking
1:13:44 here I bet I bet you were sitting there
1:13:46 the whole time just watching me do that
1:13:48 work and you weren't even tapping the
1:13:50 like screen you were letting all the
1:13:51 other other Irregulars get us up to 22
1:13:54 000 likes you're probably just sitting
1:13:55 there like oh that's curious I know how
1:13:57 this goes I got it that segment gave a
1:14:00 great power nap
1:14:03 all right welcome to the AI learning lab
1:14:06 let's get started tonight okay so if any
1:14:09 of you survived that
1:14:11 um
1:14:12 here's where I think you should go play
1:14:16 is
1:14:18 chat.openai.com you know what's funny
1:14:21 you know what's striking me all of a
1:14:23 sudden thank you share bear
1:14:26 um
1:14:27 for the past month or month and a half
1:14:31 a fair amount of people in here and a
1:14:33 fair amount of people and Tick Tock or
1:14:35 in in Twitter land and things like that
1:14:37 are saying that gpt4 is not programming
1:14:40 as well it's it's not as good
1:14:43 and then and then some people not all
1:14:45 but some people have been saying Claude
1:14:47 is better than gpt4
1:14:49 the fact that we couldn't get gpt4 to
1:14:52 [ __ ] figure out a relatively decently
1:14:55 structured PDF and Claude could figure
1:14:58 it out
1:14:59 something's going on man
1:15:01 open enrollment season at the AI
1:15:03 learning lab good Lord I know right oh
1:15:05 that was exhausting
1:15:08 um yeah that was weird that was weird so
1:15:11 again
1:15:13 this reinforces something that I've been
1:15:15 saying for a while that that what you
1:15:18 need to do with these tools is don't get
1:15:20 too precious with any of them
1:15:21 everything's changing all the time and
1:15:23 some of that [ __ ] that's changing is
1:15:24 behind the scenes like I don't know
1:15:26 what's going on with gpt4 but maybe
1:15:28 they're [ __ ] with the model to make
1:15:29 it I don't know less
1:15:32 um
1:15:33 less reliant on copywritten training
1:15:36 data or sorry I like I don't even think
1:15:38 that's possible but let's just say
1:15:39 they're doing something like that
1:15:41 um
1:15:43 the most important thing to do right now
1:15:45 is understand conceptually how these
1:15:48 tools work and and just use them enough
1:15:51 that you start to understand the
1:15:53 limitations of each one and and just be
1:15:55 able to bounce between them because
1:15:57 they're all basically the same [ __ ] it's
1:15:59 all basically a box
1:16:00 some of them are connected to the
1:16:02 internet some are not some you can
1:16:04 upload pictures some you can upload data
1:16:07 files
1:16:09 none of them are perfect all of them
1:16:11 hallucinate sometimes they're [ __ ]
1:16:13 brilliant to the point that you're like
1:16:15 holy [ __ ] and then other times like you
1:16:18 spent whatever we spent [ __ ] half an
1:16:20 hour with chat GPT or 20 minutes trying
1:16:23 to get it to just see the [ __ ]
1:16:25 document
1:16:27 all right so carrying on welcome hey I
1:16:31 don't know if you knew this name's Kyle
1:16:32 Shannon it's the home of smooth jazz and
1:16:37 huh fantastic Bob come on in the water's
1:16:41 nice you're gonna like it in here
1:16:43 artificial intelligence machine learning
1:16:46 we do it all
1:16:48 what are what are my qualifications
1:16:50 that's cute that's very cute anyway
1:16:53 carrying on all right
1:16:56 Bruno we're Claude fan girls up in here
1:16:58 right Silver Fox exactly
1:17:03 that's awesome
1:17:07 oh man yeah I I'm Claude is Claude is
1:17:11 listen I'm a big fan of anthropic I'm a
1:17:14 big fan of the Constitutional learning
1:17:16 model I want them to win what the weird
1:17:19 thing about about
1:17:22 anthropic is that their primary mission
1:17:26 is not to make
1:17:29 AGI
1:17:31 open ai's Prime imperative is to get to
1:17:35 AGI artificial general intelligence
1:17:37 basically a chat that's smarter than all
1:17:39 of us
1:17:40 and can reason better
1:17:43 anthropic's core mission is to make sure
1:17:45 that whoever gets the a AGI doesn't
1:17:48 destroy the world so anthropic's all
1:17:51 about safety so my only concern with
1:17:54 them is because their primary focus is
1:17:56 not the tool but the safety of the tool
1:18:00 um
1:18:01 they may not keep keep up but they're
1:18:04 doing pretty [ __ ] good right now and
1:18:06 their hundred thousand token context
1:18:08 Windows pretty flipping amazing gpt4 is
1:18:11 programmed much better for probability
1:18:13 statistics mathematics calculation or
1:18:15 calculus and Etc
1:18:17 yeah and I find it much better for for
1:18:19 General writing stuff as well like I I
1:18:22 think the I was talking to a reporter
1:18:24 friend of mine today that I knew from
1:18:26 New York days back in the 90s and and
1:18:29 she was saying that she liked what
1:18:32 Claude could process but when it
1:18:34 actually came to like writing articles
1:18:35 she was like boy was it boring it was
1:18:37 really bad so all again all of these
1:18:40 tools learning what they're good at what
1:18:42 they're not good at is is a big part of
1:18:44 the trick
1:18:47 all right let's see uh if you're new
1:18:50 here pop any questions you have down
1:18:52 below and I'll spend I'll spend 45
1:18:55 minutes trying to get these stupid tools
1:18:58 to look at a PDF file
1:19:01 that was the first time we Dove that
1:19:03 deep into something that was pretty cool
1:19:04 though that was that was actually a
1:19:06 really good
1:19:07 um like I feel like that was a good
1:19:08 learning exercise for me hopefully
1:19:10 hopefully you know you're paying
1:19:12 attention a little bit I know I wasn't
1:19:14 exactly uh being articulate in what I
1:19:17 was doing but I was just trying to
1:19:19 figure some [ __ ] out all right there's
1:19:21 talk about AI regulations yeah so so
1:19:24 um in fact I just the the talk that I
1:19:27 gave tonight
1:19:28 today D I cut together this video from
1:19:33 Elon Musk
1:19:35 where he was talking about so so he and
1:19:38 whatever 10 10 other AI CEOs
1:19:44 um met with Chuck Schumer in a in a in
1:19:47 an AI meeting how do you think they took
1:19:50 the message that you brought them well I
1:19:52 think it was it was very um civilized
1:19:54 discussion basically what he says is
1:19:56 everyone in there thinks that regulation
1:19:58 is important
1:20:00 um he feels that
1:20:02 um there will likely be some sort of
1:20:04 like FAA or or FCC kind of you know
1:20:08 regulatory body and he supports that and
1:20:11 you know
1:20:12 he said he thinks that the the meeting
1:20:15 with Schumer may go down as historic so
1:20:17 they didn't none of them really talked
1:20:19 about what they talked about in there
1:20:20 I realize I can get rid of all insurance
1:20:22 no wife no children and rather die than
1:20:26 look at that I know and and you know
1:20:28 what Winston what what is the really
1:20:30 [ __ ] up thing about that statement
1:20:31 about insurance is that's exactly that
1:20:35 that is by Design that's exactly the
1:20:37 response that they want if we make this
1:20:39 complicated enough
1:20:41 people will just give up and stop trying
1:20:44 to fight us to get us to pay for their
1:20:46 [ __ ]
1:20:47 It Is by Design and it's disgusting it
1:20:51 is Criminal
1:20:52 open enrollment season at AI learning
1:20:56 um
1:21:03 isn't that special now we know what what
1:21:06 they're not good at
1:21:09 aren't you special well we give you a
1:21:13 little simple Health Care exercise there
1:21:15 and you couldn't do it why was that why
1:21:18 do you think you couldn't do that Chachi
1:21:19 PT was it that you're not smart enough
1:21:21 no that's not it I wonder what it could
1:21:23 oh could be Satan
1:21:29 might have been Satan
1:21:31 uh well it was just okay for me that's
1:21:33 just mean I appreciated seeing all the
1:21:36 back and forth to make it work yeah a
1:21:38 little bit
1:21:39 um
1:21:40 it that that's one of the other things
1:21:42 about the
1:21:45 working with chat GPT is much more like
1:21:48 working with a really thick-headed
1:21:50 intern
1:21:52 then like a Google search it's it's much
1:21:56 more like wait how thick are you oh God
1:21:59 you're really thick okay let me spell it
1:22:01 out
1:22:03 um they just happen to be really well
1:22:05 educated
1:22:06 [Music]
1:22:08 guilty King true
1:22:12 um put Medicare into the equation oh my
1:22:14 God I'm in the middle of that right now
1:22:16 yeah
1:22:19 Claude feels like you're in a big empty
1:22:21 room sometimes Pie's couch is much more
1:22:23 comfortable
1:22:27 oh that's hilarious
1:22:31 uh I'm at the bottom of comments here
1:22:35 um
1:22:36 let me see you know what I'll do let me
1:22:38 um because there might be some folks in
1:22:40 here if you have any questions about a
1:22:42 AI pop them in the comments below
1:22:44 um I've Got Mods that'll that'll pop
1:22:46 them to the Top If it's anything
1:22:48 interesting I'm gonna show you right now
1:22:51 um
1:22:54 all these tools that I was kind of
1:22:56 talking about generically before just
1:22:57 just because if there's people in here
1:22:59 that are new so if you're brand new to
1:23:01 chat GPT go go right there if you
1:23:03 haven't played with chat EBT that's the
1:23:05 official chat GPT website Claude and
1:23:08 Bard and Bing are kind of the the top
1:23:12 four that I I sort of Bounce Around
1:23:14 between
1:23:15 woohoo thank you Kyle back oh Kyle back
1:23:19 to funny characters and interesting
1:23:21 voices what what darling I don't know
1:23:23 what you're talking about why would you
1:23:25 why would you say that my my characters
1:23:27 are funny
1:23:29 my characters are very very serious well
1:23:32 you're wrong Dr brusa I'm very proud to
1:23:35 be a woman name that movie name that
1:23:37 movie
1:23:39 all right
1:23:41 um
1:23:42 it's a classic it's a classic
1:23:45 you're awesome Kyle you completed my
1:23:47 thoughts exactly with the church lady
1:23:49 I'm good perfect that's why I'm here
1:23:53 um so Claude we just played with Claude
1:23:56 you can put really big documents in Bard
1:23:58 is connected to the internet so those
1:24:00 three are good
1:24:01 um
1:24:03 Bing is also connected to the internet
1:24:05 it can also make images even though
1:24:07 they're shitty it can make them it can
1:24:09 read images uh it can occasionally
1:24:11 answer a question but the safety guard
1:24:13 rails on it are so egregious that you
1:24:16 basically can't get anything done with
1:24:17 it they got to fix that [ __ ]
1:24:20 um
1:24:21 metas llama 2 models are being hosted at
1:24:24 labs.perplexity that's pretty
1:24:26 interesting Pi dot AI you can chat with
1:24:28 that's really good Poe is they've got
1:24:31 Bots and things like that oh
1:24:34 Winston coming in strong with the Llama
1:24:36 did you see what oh and Winston just hit
1:24:38 Level 18. take that Clint
1:24:46 did anyone get my movie reference you're
1:24:49 wrong Dr Brewster I'm very proud to be a
1:24:51 woman
1:24:56 [Laughter]
1:24:59 oh my God that was a good movie
1:25:02 um okay so that's those
1:25:04 then these there's a lot going on here
1:25:07 so screenshot screenshot right now and
1:25:09 if you're on a Samsung you can't not Mrs
1:25:11 Doubtfire close Silver Fox nope not Mrs
1:25:14 Doubtfire
1:25:16 not Mrs Doubtfire not Robin Williams
1:25:18 you're wrong Dr Brewster I'm very proud
1:25:21 to be a woman Jessica Lang was in it
1:25:26 um
1:25:29 um these are the image generation tools
1:25:31 except Tootsie I'm a librarian winner
1:25:35 winner chicken dinner
1:25:37 it was when the when the creepy soap
1:25:40 opera actor comes in for a kiss and she
1:25:42 slaps him
1:25:43 laughs
1:25:46 and then there's that line from the one
1:25:47 cameraman where where the the director
1:25:50 like the camera Zooms in on Tootsie and
1:25:53 the director goes he goes could you pull
1:25:56 back a little and someone goes how far
1:25:57 and the cameraman goes how about Toledo
1:26:00 oh my God that was a good movie
1:26:04 um
1:26:05 mid-journey is kind of the best of the
1:26:07 image generation tools in terms of just
1:26:09 quality of image but you have to make
1:26:12 images in Discord which is a pain in the
1:26:14 ass uh and
1:26:17 there's not a free version
1:26:19 and it can't do text ideogram is free
1:26:22 right now but my guess is it won't be
1:26:24 for long but it can do text although the
1:26:26 image generation part of it ain't nearly
1:26:29 as good as mid Journeys Leonardo is is
1:26:32 actually a really solid product
1:26:34 web-based image generation tool
1:26:38 um based on stable diffusion and then
1:26:41 heygen.com
1:26:43 go to labs.hn.com and click on the video
1:26:47 translation tool
1:26:49 and you can make
1:26:54 could not be reverted is this working
1:26:58 check this out so hey Jen is the video
1:27:00 translation tool there
1:27:03 allows for this if you haven't seen it
1:27:05 so we've heard from a number of clients
1:27:07 that modular content is important to
1:27:08 them getting more efficient with how we
1:27:10 create content and how we leverage
1:27:12 content is
1:27:21 so you'll notice it re-synced my lips it
1:27:24 synth my voice I'm speaking fluent
1:27:27 Italian with the right accent
1:27:30 um so so that's that's hey Jen
1:27:33 these little green boxes
1:27:36 that's hey Jen right there
1:27:42 [Music]
1:27:44 um and then Adobe Firefly and
1:27:46 photoshop's generative fill went live
1:27:49 two days ago so it's out of beta and
1:27:53 what that basically means is that
1:27:54 anything you make in the Adobe
1:27:56 generative AI stuff you can now use
1:27:58 commercially and their models have not
1:28:01 been trained on copywritten materials so
1:28:03 that's a big big deal
1:28:05 and then openart.ai prompt book will
1:28:08 teach you how to talk to those image
1:28:09 generation tools all right
1:28:12 that's dad stuff let's see if we got
1:28:14 some questions
1:28:16 somebody pinned a comment I don't see
1:28:18 any pinned comments right now with that
1:28:21 Robin Williams no that was Dustin
1:28:22 Hoffman
1:28:24 that was Dustin Hoffman as Tootsie
1:28:27 you're wrong Dr Bruce I'm very proud to
1:28:29 be a woman
1:28:31 such a good movie
1:28:35 maybe hey Jen could have translated the
1:28:38 Moda plans for us oh my God
1:28:42 it couldn't have done worse
1:28:46 wow how many languages eight languages
1:28:49 right now the I saw there was a um
1:28:53 there was a live session with the
1:28:55 co-founder of hey Jen today that a
1:28:57 number of a number of us from in here
1:28:59 were in it
1:29:01 and
1:29:03 the co-founder and chief product officer
1:29:07 Tick Tock won't allow screenshot it
1:29:09 blacks out so what you have to do I
1:29:12 think Clint is go out of the live to
1:29:15 your
1:29:16 um timeline where you can still see the
1:29:18 live I think you can screenshot it out
1:29:20 there or you can go to
1:29:23 um
1:29:24 open it up in a web browser and just let
1:29:27 me know when you do that and I'll just
1:29:29 pop it up on screen again
1:29:32 um
1:29:33 what's that
1:29:36 what that
1:29:38 well when I eat them out in my own
1:29:41 Walmart
1:29:43 um
1:29:45 best tool to help folks with resumes
1:29:50 there may be some specific resume tools
1:29:53 I would say
1:29:56 check out futurepedia.io and just search
1:29:59 for resumes and see if there's like I I
1:30:01 would imagine that in a cool in a tool
1:30:05 like copy AI or or uh what's that other
1:30:08 one called
1:30:10 um
1:30:11 uh what the [ __ ] I can't
1:30:14 um
1:30:15 this is ones that are like pre-prompted
1:30:18 like lots of different widgets that are
1:30:19 all written on top of GPT there might be
1:30:21 some that specifically do resumes
1:30:24 um
1:30:25 what I would do is I would probably use
1:30:28 Claude for this I would upload an old
1:30:32 resume
1:30:34 um copy as much of your data out of your
1:30:37 LinkedIn profile as you can and either
1:30:39 save that as a like a text file or just
1:30:42 paste it into Claude
1:30:44 and then I would I would also put in
1:30:46 either a job description or or describe
1:30:49 the kind of job you want to get and then
1:30:51 just have it write a resume based on a
1:30:53 previous resume or based on an example
1:30:56 resume you like you could go
1:30:58 you could you could go get examples of
1:31:01 good resume formats or even have Claude
1:31:03 or chat GPT tell you that
1:31:06 and then just have it match that format
1:31:08 pulling all your data out of your
1:31:11 um
1:31:13 out of your LinkedIn profile I I would
1:31:15 do something like that just because
1:31:17 again I think that I think that learning
1:31:20 how to interact with these things and
1:31:22 just kind of troubleshoot with them as
1:31:24 much of a pain in the ass as it is every
1:31:26 time I do that like it sort of locks
1:31:28 something away in my brain of like okay
1:31:30 now I know how to get around that thing
1:31:33 now now I know how to problem solve that
1:31:35 because I you know the next two years
1:31:38 are just going to be lots and lots of
1:31:40 tools resume help might be through
1:31:42 gpt4's plug-in ambition great so I don't
1:31:46 know that plug-in so I'm a librarian
1:31:50 um
1:31:50 uh Firefly just made that
1:31:54 um
1:31:55 recommendation ambition is a I guess
1:31:57 it's a resume building tool that's
1:32:00 really cool that's really smart I like
1:32:02 it it's solid solid
1:32:05 tools to do text to speech with Avatar
1:32:07 and input to hey Jen
1:32:10 well there's a hey gen
1:32:12 um
1:32:13 there's a hey gen plug-in
1:32:15 which you can just tell it to go make
1:32:18 you a video and it will sort of pick its
1:32:20 own it'll pick its own avatar and voice
1:32:23 thing you can go to hey Jen you can go
1:32:25 to dash ID you can go to Synthesia
1:32:29 you can go to uh what's the other one
1:32:33 and I can't remember it
1:32:36 does I'm helping patrons with theirs and
1:32:39 sometimes they don't have digital skills
1:32:41 at all yeah yeah that's that's rough
1:32:45 um in in that case
1:32:53 I assume canva has resumes in it doesn't
1:32:56 it I I would say go go look at the
1:32:58 plugin that Firefly just talked about
1:32:59 ambition
1:33:02 I would say go there and then let me go
1:33:05 see if canva has resumes I bet they do
1:33:09 canva.com
1:33:13 resume
1:33:15 [Music]
1:33:20 yeah so canva has oh they've got piles
1:33:25 of resume templates so
1:33:32 yeah
1:33:35 so
1:33:38 I'd go find a template that looks good
1:33:40 here
1:33:42 and then you could probably
1:33:45 a couple of ways to do it but I would
1:33:48 basically just sort of copy copy the
1:33:50 text out of one of these templates
1:33:52 and pop it into
1:33:55 um
1:33:57 Chachi be to your Claude have it rewrite
1:33:59 it with
1:34:01 I think this is going to be a clod thing
1:34:03 because it's you got you got you got too
1:34:05 many too many documents here you take
1:34:07 the text from
1:34:09 one of the resumes from canva as the
1:34:12 format
1:34:13 or like here's the sections that I need
1:34:16 you take your LinkedIn information or
1:34:19 just whatever job information that they
1:34:22 type in
1:34:23 then you take a job description and then
1:34:26 you have it rewrite their resume kind of
1:34:28 based on that format
1:34:30 using their data
1:34:36 there's probably a tool well you know
1:34:38 there's a oh wait hang on
1:34:42 I don't need to be a dumb dumb about
1:34:44 this I'm a little Punchy because I I
1:34:46 give a talk tonight so I'm a little I'm
1:34:48 a little like uh whatever you call it
1:34:50 well
1:34:51 look at my hair uh there's there's a lot
1:34:55 going on here tonight
1:34:57 um
1:34:58 let me try something there's a canva
1:35:00 plug-in let's go try the canva plugin
1:35:07 [Music]
1:35:12 plug-in store canva
1:35:17 canva install okay so I'm installing
1:35:21 the canva plugin
1:35:23 and now it's turned on and I'm going to
1:35:26 say
1:35:27 um let me go to LinkedIn
1:35:30 [Music]
1:35:31 linked and
1:35:40 Kyle Shannon that's me you did it yay
1:35:46 experience can I show all experiences
1:35:49 show all experiences
1:35:52 he's a chief generator officer yes he is
1:35:56 he's a Founder he's a Content publisher
1:35:59 he's an EVP creative he's all of those
1:36:02 things
1:36:04 all right
1:36:05 there's all my [ __ ]
1:36:07 so I'm gonna grab all my [ __ ] and then
1:36:10 I'm gonna go in here to chat GPT and I'm
1:36:12 gonna go
1:36:16 based on
1:36:18 this LinkedIn profile
1:36:27 I'm gonna paste all that crap in I hope
1:36:29 it's not too long
1:36:32 um
1:36:37 write me a resume
1:36:41 that
1:36:43 amplifies my experience with AI
1:36:47 so that I can get a nine hundred
1:36:50 thousand dollar prompt engineer job
1:36:59 let's see if let's see if it sends it
1:37:01 off and does anything on canva
1:37:06 um objective dedicated experienced
1:37:08 professional with a profound
1:37:10 understanding of generative Technologies
1:37:12 you hear that people I have a profound
1:37:14 understanding it's not an understanding
1:37:17 it's not an understanding it's a
1:37:19 profound understanding
1:37:22 seeking a position as a prompt engineer
1:37:24 with a rich history and creative
1:37:26 strategy content Evolution and AI driven
1:37:29 initiatives I aim to leverage my
1:37:32 expertise okay
1:37:34 so
1:37:36 it did that stuff pretty good
1:37:41 Okay so
1:37:45 can you find a template on canva and put
1:37:49 all of that information in
1:37:53 the template so it looks pretty and
1:37:56 professional and so I don't have to do
1:37:57 any technical work
1:38:01 let's see if it does it I'm a librarian
1:38:03 let's see if we can help your people
1:38:06 do this
1:38:08 come on chat gbt you failed you failed
1:38:10 Emilio's wife it was it was really not
1:38:12 good it was really you were really bad
1:38:15 tonight
1:38:15 Emilio's wife oh
1:38:19 Marianna Anderson hello what
1:38:24 oh
1:38:26 I found some professional templates on
1:38:28 canva for you
1:38:30 here are some options so there's black
1:38:33 and white minimalist
1:38:35 there's minimalist white and gray
1:38:40 and there's blue professional
1:38:43 that one looks like some sort of Romper
1:38:45 Room thing
1:38:48 that one's nice and professional I think
1:38:51 that one's more classic so if I were if
1:38:53 I were applying for a Fortune 500 job
1:38:56 I'd go down but let's go with let's go
1:38:58 with black and white minimalist oh wait
1:39:00 oh there's more
1:39:03 pink simple
1:39:05 all right select one of the templates
1:39:07 above once you've made your choice I'll
1:39:09 help populate it with your resume
1:39:10 details I'm a librarian look how cool
1:39:13 this is this is
1:39:15 this is like this is like my night to
1:39:17 learn I'm like this is the AI learning
1:39:20 lab it's going the other direction
1:39:21 tonight I'm digging it look at all this
1:39:24 [ __ ] I'm learning did good very good
1:39:27 deal I'll tell you what I like them
1:39:29 taters
1:39:31 all right Taylor's tasty it was a sling
1:39:34 blade
1:39:37 um I'm still going black and white
1:39:39 minimalist black and white minimalist
1:39:42 BW
1:39:44 minimal list
1:39:48 all the
1:39:51 way
1:39:55 great choice I'll populate it
1:40:04 [Music]
1:40:05 wait however I can't directly edit the
1:40:09 template for you what
1:40:14 that's horse hockey
1:40:21 edit your personal details replace the
1:40:24 existing text
1:40:41 [Music]
1:40:41 um
1:40:42 camera allows for a lot of customization
1:40:46 um
1:40:47 if I ask really nicely and say pretty
1:40:50 please could you put my data into the
1:40:52 template
1:40:56 I know right right bubbles it was so
1:40:58 close it was so close to not sucking
1:41:04 I truly appreciate your patience and
1:41:06 politeness however due to the current
1:41:09 limitations of my integration with canva
1:41:11 I'm unable to directly well I mean
1:41:15 listen here's the deal
1:41:16 it it at least did pick us some nice you
1:41:20 know professional templates and we've
1:41:22 got all of the all of the data here so
1:41:25 so even without technical still skills
1:41:29 you could sort of copy and paste this
1:41:30 stuff into the appropriate sections of
1:41:32 the other resumes so it's not totally
1:41:34 useless I I you know there you go
1:41:36 hopefully that helps
1:41:39 I'm a librarian if pretty please works I
1:41:42 tried pretty please
1:41:44 you see I'm I'm willing to work with
1:41:48 these AI things they're just not willing
1:41:49 to work with me tonight
1:41:51 listen
1:41:53 a poor a poor carpenter blames his tools
1:41:59 it's all chatty PT's fault I'm really
1:42:02 smart people listen listen I know some
1:42:05 people in here came in and they said
1:42:07 that I was not qualified to teach this
1:42:09 class
1:42:11 but but
1:42:13 let me tell you I
1:42:17 I have a certificate
1:42:21 I worked with George Santos and I have a
1:42:24 certificate and it's a it's a it's a
1:42:28 university it's a it's a degree it's got
1:42:32 a degree it's got I'm
1:42:34 I'm qualified
1:42:36 also three AI generated resume building
1:42:39 sites okay grammarly LinkedIn Resume
1:42:41 Builder and Hemingway editor awesome
1:42:45 Firefly thank you yeah I figured there
1:42:46 were tools out there I just I just don't
1:42:48 know that world at all so yes awesome
1:42:52 Emilio's wife unreal incompetence thank
1:42:54 you appreciate it
1:43:09 whoa
1:43:10 they can't make it that easy I know well
1:43:14 some of those some of the more dedicated
1:43:15 tools I'm sure are actually really good
1:43:17 at this because all you need to do is is
1:43:19 is basically
1:43:22 generate your
1:43:24 um
1:43:25 your chat GPT with with structured like
1:43:28 Json or or HTML and then you can just
1:43:32 pop it in a template right so
1:43:34 technically it's it's not that hard to
1:43:36 do so I would I would imagine that any
1:43:39 of the resume building
1:43:41 sites
1:43:43 um
1:43:46 have added AI [ __ ] so this is relatively
1:43:48 straightforward I'm asleep can't stay
1:43:50 awake good night my favorite people
1:43:51 night share bear sleep tight sleep tight
1:43:54 good night good night thank you for
1:43:57 joining tonight
1:44:03 sense of identity because of her capture
1:44:06 Emilio
1:44:08 yeah we'll never know her name right
1:44:13 but he's very kind to me
1:44:17 foreign
1:44:21 I just almost shot water out my face
1:44:25 I you did the best you could I did do
1:44:28 the best I could I'm a librarian
1:44:30 hopefully that helped a little bit
1:44:32 um the the tools that Firefly told you
1:44:35 about are probably a much better
1:44:36 solution than my my Approach but you
1:44:39 know I just do this to entertain myself
1:44:41 quite frankly at this point because you
1:44:44 know I I am wholly unqualified to this
1:44:47 was a night of failures and and you know
1:44:50 we celebrate our failures here at the AI
1:44:52 learning lab you can make money with
1:44:54 Chachi mate I don't know what you're
1:44:56 talking about
1:44:57 oh
1:45:02 oh my Lord Kyle you're an awesome
1:45:06 Professor well
1:45:09 I profess a lot
1:45:14 oh
1:45:17 dude
1:45:20 [Music]
1:45:23 are we glad we can't pin Kyle's singing
1:45:27 that's rude that's rude I like it
1:45:36 boom boom
1:45:38 Kyle you were not incompetent the people
1:45:41 who don't wait the people who don't
1:45:43 replace your name here with their name
1:45:45 are yeah exactly exactly
1:45:50 I made assumptions that their tool would
1:45:52 not be a
1:45:55 janky piece of [ __ ] and they're all
1:45:58 janky pieces of [ __ ] right now I've said
1:46:00 it before I'll say it again
1:46:02 tell us more about that hey gen meeting
1:46:05 um okay
1:46:07 so they started seven minutes late
1:46:08 because their social media manager
1:46:11 couldn't get YouTube running
1:46:13 [Laughter]
1:46:17 so there's that
1:46:19 then Wayne the co-founder and CPO which
1:46:25 I assume means Chief product officer
1:46:29 explained
1:46:32 kind of like I explained [ __ ] he was
1:46:34 like well you upload a file and then it
1:46:37 turns into a video and then
1:46:39 and then you pick a language and it
1:46:41 makes it in a different language and
1:46:42 people are like show us the [ __ ] show us
1:46:45 the [ __ ] and then other people are like
1:46:47 we already know what it is what is this
1:46:49 meeting for it was it was the the crowd
1:46:53 was a little hostile
1:46:55 um
1:46:56 and then
1:46:57 um
1:46:59 and then he showed it and he said he
1:47:03 said uh
1:47:04 so so they they launched hn video
1:47:07 translate they didn't launch it they
1:47:10 they had it in some sort of functional
1:47:12 form on August 7th
1:47:15 and it wasn't until like I don't know
1:47:17 two weeks or so ago that they put it out
1:47:20 but like I think it had been up on the
1:47:22 website in just kind of a non-announced
1:47:24 way for like a month and basically no
1:47:26 one used it no one noticed it
1:47:29 and then a couple of videos got posted
1:47:33 on
1:47:34 um
1:47:35 on Tick Tock and I think their social
1:47:37 media manager posted another one on Tick
1:47:39 Tock or or they they boosted one
1:47:43 um and then all of a sudden he said in
1:47:45 the past week like they're they're
1:47:47 totally blowing up on social media and
1:47:50 he was gonna he was gonna
1:47:53 um translate one of his videos live but
1:47:55 the queue was like
1:47:58 I can't remember if it was fifty seven
1:47:59 thousand or five hundred and seventy
1:48:01 thousand there was like a really long
1:48:03 queue of videos that had been you know
1:48:05 uploaded to the service
1:48:08 um
1:48:10 he said a couple of really interesting
1:48:12 things one of the things that he said
1:48:14 that absolutely blew me [ __ ] away was
1:48:18 he he was sort of talking about hey Jen
1:48:20 is this thing where you can do voice
1:48:22 synthesis and you can type in text and
1:48:25 it'll make an avatar and do that that's
1:48:27 their primary business he kind of said
1:48:29 video translates was like a side project
1:48:32 of one of their Engineers it was like a
1:48:34 throwaway project
1:48:36 and he doesn't understand why people
1:48:38 think it's such a big deal effectively
1:48:40 he didn't say exactly those words but he
1:48:42 was like we're a little caught off guard
1:48:44 here that so many people want to use
1:48:46 this
1:48:47 but he said they're working really hard
1:48:49 to solve the scalability problem because
1:48:51 a lot of people are using it now
1:48:54 they have pricing for both
1:48:57 60 bucks a month
1:48:59 for like 30 credits and then 179 bucks a
1:49:03 month for
1:49:04 60 credits that are up to 20 minutes
1:49:06 each and there's an API
1:49:08 he said on the call that the API doesn't
1:49:11 exist yet so like this is this is a
1:49:15 afterthought project
1:49:17 that I think is going to become their
1:49:20 primary product very quickly and I don't
1:49:22 know if they're going to be able to
1:49:23 scale it up so so one of the risks right
1:49:26 now is
1:49:27 um I don't think they I this is sort of
1:49:29 catching a tiger by the tail I don't
1:49:31 think they know what they have on their
1:49:32 hands
1:49:34 um
1:49:35 some of the other stuff that he said
1:49:36 that was really interesting was
1:49:39 um
1:49:41 that it's going to get much faster soon
1:49:46 and it'll probably be real time
1:49:50 in not too long like he kind of implied
1:49:53 in less than a year I don't know if
1:49:55 that's a reality again I don't think
1:49:57 they know what they have on their hands
1:49:58 here
1:49:59 but when this thing's real time
1:50:02 holy crap
1:50:09 all right let's see
1:50:12 I'm trying to think what else there was
1:50:14 one other thing they said
1:50:16 it was the real time thing
1:50:19 oh
1:50:22 he knows they need Japanese lots of
1:50:24 people are asking for Japanese they've
1:50:26 got eight languages right now
1:50:28 they're gonna go to
1:50:30 20 and then he said a lot after that
1:50:36 I saw it blew up on the Asia social
1:50:38 media circuit that's interesting Crystal
1:50:40 yeah interesting
1:50:42 um yeah clear clearly it caught fire
1:50:44 somewhere because I I mean I've been
1:50:45 talking about a lot but I don't I don't
1:50:47 like every time I show someone no one's
1:50:49 heard of it
1:50:51 um
1:50:52 but every time I show people they're
1:50:53 like uh holy [ __ ] oh my God
1:50:57 um so he said they're gonna they're
1:50:59 gonna go to 20 languages pretty quick so
1:51:01 I assume Asian Asian languages they've
1:51:04 got Hindi in there right now but that's
1:51:05 the only thing that's you know sort of
1:51:08 Beyond Western Europe
1:51:09 and then
1:51:11 um
1:51:12 he said they will be going to dialects
1:51:14 so you'll be able to do English with an
1:51:17 American accent with an English accent
1:51:19 with an Australian accent so so they're
1:51:21 gonna start to have different dialects
1:51:24 it was really hard to understand from
1:51:28 him
1:51:29 wear any any of this stuff was on the
1:51:31 road map
1:51:32 like I couldn't tell if it was just like
1:51:34 oh we could probably do more than 20
1:51:37 languages like is he just sort of making
1:51:39 it up as he goes or you know again back
1:51:42 to this idea like like these things are
1:51:44 kind of janky pieces of [ __ ]
1:51:47 um this one feels like it was really
1:51:50 um you know kind of just tossed together
1:51:52 and put out there so
1:51:55 um
1:51:56 they have a hit on their hands if they
1:51:58 can keep delivering it and apparently
1:52:00 their Engineers not sleeping trying to
1:52:02 scale this thing can you imagine
1:52:05 because I'm I'm sure that's it's got to
1:52:08 be taking a lot of gpus because they're
1:52:09 doing multiple passes right they're
1:52:11 doing they're doing the transcription
1:52:13 pass they're doing the voice synthesis
1:52:16 pass they're doing the translation pass
1:52:19 they're doing the the the uh the lip
1:52:25 um
1:52:26 modeling
1:52:27 then they're doing the lip
1:52:29 synchronization then they're doing the
1:52:30 layering like there's there's I don't
1:52:32 know seven or eight or nine operations
1:52:35 that have to happen to do one of those
1:52:36 translations if you don't know what I'm
1:52:38 talking about the uh
1:52:40 it's it's this thing called hey Jen and
1:52:43 it
1:52:44 um this is me speaking Italian which I
1:52:46 don't speak that's how we think about
1:52:48 stories well that's English break
1:52:50 stories down into little atoms right
1:52:52 little modules
1:53:01 so that's that's the output it's it's
1:53:03 remarkable it's got one visual glitch
1:53:06 which I think is kind of minor which is
1:53:07 if you pass your hand over your face
1:53:09 since since they're they're sensing like
1:53:13 your lower mask when you pass your hand
1:53:15 over your face your mouth is actually in
1:53:17 front of your hand it's pretty weird
1:53:18 looking
1:53:19 more languages to be added yeah I think
1:53:21 he said he said up to 20. listen yeah I
1:53:24 thought Kyle would never return from the
1:53:25 insurance procedure he was locked into
1:53:27 it was ugly man I I know right there
1:53:30 with you I'm it drained me it drained me
1:53:34 it could have been a champ I suppose
1:53:36 with a Canadian accent a yeah apparently
1:53:39 the the uh the uh French
1:53:43 the French accent is a Quebec accent
1:53:46 it's not French
1:53:49 um so that's one of those things where
1:53:51 again I like
1:53:53 this was put together by an engineer so
1:53:56 I again I don't I don't know that they
1:53:58 know what they have on their hands here
1:53:59 this is this is a very big deal product
1:54:01 and it I I think the result of this
1:54:04 product will likely be that two or three
1:54:07 other or four
1:54:09 companies that have similar technology
1:54:12 are going to come out
1:54:13 strong with competitors to this so I
1:54:16 think that over the next six months
1:54:18 we'll probably see three or four of
1:54:20 these tools that that make it really
1:54:22 really easy to do
1:54:25 um translation into many many languages
1:54:27 so it's crazy
1:54:29 it's absolutely nuts
1:54:32 I sent hey Jen my viscom team we work in
1:54:36 20 primary languages in 70 countries
1:54:39 very cool
1:54:43 what's it called hey Jen yep everyone's
1:54:45 giving you that down below Firefly right
1:54:47 and business
1:54:50 can you imagine how this will help
1:54:51 teachers wow I know
1:54:54 just anyone really I mean teachers
1:54:56 anyone with a like a YouTube channel can
1:54:59 now just like enter another Market
1:55:02 speak in that language fluently
1:55:05 [ __ ] crazy all right listen listen
1:55:08 everybody listen we have to have a talk
1:55:11 okay come here come here we're leaving
1:55:14 close listen live in
1:55:16 I'm a little sleepy what time is it 10
1:55:20 21 here in Denver Colorado
1:55:22 I'm not sleepy so I'm gonna go
1:55:26 I think y'all are wonderful
1:55:28 uh I'm glad we did the insurance deep
1:55:31 dive except it did make me crankier than
1:55:33 [ __ ] because I gotta go deal with that
1:55:35 with my actual insurance
1:55:37 I don't have as many choices as Emilio's
1:55:39 wife did and I don't have to look at a
1:55:41 sheet that's nearly that depressing but
1:55:43 they're all that depressing
1:55:45 I mean actually what was quite
1:55:47 remarkable about the seven choices that
1:55:50 she had is there really wasn't a ton of
1:55:53 difference between them they're all
1:55:54 between 9 500 and 11 800. like
1:56:01 all of them are going to frustrate the
1:56:03 [ __ ] out of her for the next year
1:56:05 and then she gets to do it again the
1:56:07 following year and they get to reduce
1:56:09 even more what they give her
1:56:13 welcome to the AI learning lab where we
1:56:15 talk about The Bleak reality of
1:56:17 capitalism in America in 2023
1:56:21 where where if you can't afford your
1:56:24 health insurance
1:56:28 to be able to pay for more health
1:56:29 insurance so yeah
1:56:32 that's why we're here
1:56:33 uh it's been Gracie and y'all thank you
1:56:36 all for hanging out thanks for tapping
1:56:38 the like button so much you all are
1:56:39 blessed to be with I swear to God
1:56:42 um I'm at work I don't have many choices
1:56:43 either good night Kyle and everyone good
1:56:45 night great live thank you everyone I
1:56:47 know it got a little got a little geeky
1:56:48 there but I appreciate it 100 bucks a
1:56:50 month for Primary Care no insurance oh
1:56:53 interesting
1:56:54 um way to tie up the night in a bow
1:56:55 thank you very much thanks cabruno Joker
1:56:58 Firefly peace out Emilio's wife
1:57:00 goodnight goodnight goodnight Stevo
1:57:03 thank you Tobias great to see you okay
1:57:06 farmer hope you're doing well hope your
1:57:08 trip was good
1:57:09 peace peace peace Emilio's wife owes me
1:57:12 a beer or a whiskey I'll take it I will
1:57:15 take it hair growth geek peace out
1:57:18 everybody all right good night Winston
1:57:20 bye everyone