aiLL 9/14/23 - ChatGPT Struggles with Health Insurance While Claude Shines

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1. 0:00foreign
2. 0:29welcome welcome I am going to grab a piece of data oh yeah this should be fine oh oh this is interesting
3. 0:43today today today hmm curious curious let's see save
4. 1:01I'll be right there Emilio's wife am I late no but you see what's on screen Emilio's wife this is your PDF
5. 1:17um let me save it we gonna do some experimenting tonight I don't know if we can do this but we'll see let's see um health care plans
6. 1:31I mean this is actually a really good example of the [ __ ] Insanity that our that our world is these days
7. 1:41all right so there's our learning lab welcome everyone welcome welcome welcome your disc is almost full save space by optimizing
8. 1:50storage yeah if I weren't a data hoarder that would be easy [Laughter] but you know what are you going to do
9. 2:01what are you gonna do huh what are you gonna do what are you gonna do I'm trying to quit apps here hold please
10. 2:11welcome everybody to the AI learning lab we will get started here shortly as people gather say hi to one another
11. 2:22print hello world by the way 10 out of 10 on the name print hello world love that name Stevo tapping them
12. 2:29uh Emilio's wife yes real life problem so Kyle Stevo it's going down seriously I thought about just throwing what was that
13. 2:39just throwing darts at it seriously that's kind of how it is get you one of those external hhds uh but here's my problem with external
14. 2:50hhds is I've got too many of them and I like I'm good with them for about a month or two and then I kind of forgot I
15. 2:58forget to hook them up or I forget to take them with me and then they just end up in a corner and then I'm like wait
16. 3:03what was on that one is that the one that had the photo library or was it the other one I'm just waiting for at some point
17. 3:10they'll come up with infinite storage you know for a nickel and I'll just take all my drives and just dump it somewhere
18. 3:16and then GPT it so I can just find stuff um welcome everybody let's see if we can get some folks in here um share the live
19. 3:25if you'd be so kind and that would be Swale we'll get some people in here all right the hair is looking special
20. 3:41tonight it ain't good well it's it's sort of sort of behaving um Winston how are you sir welcome shared alive with five more friends
21. 3:54thank you Stevo what did you think of the hey gen webinar um my big takeaway from the hey gen webinar was they don't have any [ __ ] clue
22. 4:09what they have on their hands they have created a [ __ ] beast of a product and he basically said this was a side gig of
23. 4:17one of our engineers laughs and we just kind of put it out there and because they didn't get any traction on
24. 4:24it for three three weeks or whatever because no one could find it um they assumed it was kind of a dud and
25. 4:33then when people actually discovered it they're like holy [ __ ] that guy has no idea this is the product of his company
26. 4:41the the the synthesizing voice and making avatars talk all that [ __ ] there's those companies are a dime a dozen right now
27. 4:49the the video translation I mean like I I was I was a little gobsmacked how much of an afterthought the product
28. 5:01is how good it is and how the co-founder of the company has no [ __ ] idea what he has on his hands they had a backlog of 570
29. 5:11000 videos or something like that or 51 000 I was some crazy amount um my son is attending college for BS
30. 5:19and cyber security excellent choice tell him to move straight to Vegas and go work for MGM Marla does he I assume he knows about
31. 5:29the MGM hack they've they've been in a three-day a three-day Cyber attack where they've got him they must have gotten
32. 5:37root level to everything because all the games are down the hotel rooms that have like electric blinds and locking doors nothing's working
33. 5:46they can't check anyone in they can't process any money it's it's a bad one so yeah I think cyber security is an
34. 5:55excellent choice because you know and and you know your son should be aware of things like worm GPT that's relatively
35. 6:02new on the scene which is an autonomous agent built on a open source large language model designed to sell to
36. 6:09hackers for 100 bucks a month that they can just make autonomous agent go out there and do stuff um let me get started here welcome
37. 6:17everyone my name is Kyle Shannon this is the AI learning lab that is the AI learning lab we also have yeah Ally Ally the cute little AI
38. 6:26learning lab huh how cute is that um that image by the way was made with a thing called ideogram and it can do text
39. 6:37it can do images it can do text the other thing that we'll talk about here is if you're new to generative AI if you've not
40. 6:46played with it I just gave a talk tonight at the uh Colorado University school for uh for Public Policy or I
41. 6:54forget the exact name of it basically democracy and public policy School champ
42. 7:10they're not going to get us we're good thank you though thank you thank you for protecting us uh but it was fascinating I mean it you
43. 7:22know it's a school they haven't really taken a position on AI yet which I find astounding um and you know people in the room were
44. 7:32some combination of like been in it for a decade and are cynical about it to haven't really played with it don't know
45. 7:40anything about it and everyone in between and it was interesting anyway if you have not played with chat GPT go
46. 7:46there right now chat.openai.com and that's the official chat gbt website just go there and start playing just do
47. 7:53it now public service announcement I don't make anything of it I don't give a [ __ ] if you pay them or not but I would
48. 7:58I do uh I think it's worth paying for and then uh and then uh if you don't know what to say there if you're like
49. 8:06completely new to this world of generative AI prompts.chat that little document will will it's like a very
50. 8:12basic document with a bunch of prompts in it but some explanation of how these things work so that should help
51. 8:19um the way the channel Works pop any comments or questions down below I will do my best to answer them and then uh
52. 8:27yeah we'll get going we'll get going we'll have some fun we'll we'll do some we'll do some wacky hijinks I like wacky
53. 8:34High Jinks I don't know about you but I am a fan of the wacky hijinks so we'll do some wacky hijinks and talk about AI
54. 8:40might get a little philosophical get you know all Jordan Peterson and then we'll get all I don't know Jed clamp it
55. 8:49this is the Jed Clampett voice remember Jed Clampett Beverly Hillbillies no anyone I know all you Irregulars thank you seen
56. 9:01that that's not champ that's cyber security exactly you rang uh uh let's see the wife wasn't too happy oh wait what is going on
57. 9:12about the very early get up for the uh for the hey gen thing yeah that was a little early I suppose Kyle sir I have a question yes Ron what
58. 9:22is it um my toilet is Flushing on its own how do I fix that all right hang on we can solve this
59. 9:41all right let's see how are we gonna do it so if you haven't seen chat gbt before this is it it's an unassuming little beast isn't it um
60. 9:55you are a master plumber and understand the intricacies of the modern Plumbing lexicon period I have a toilet that's flushing on its
61. 10:11own period can you help me diagnose what's going on and how to fix it [Laughter] I can certainly help diagnose and
62. 10:25potentially fix the issue flapper valve seal well I could have told you this Ron the most common cause of a toilet flushing on its own is a
63. 10:34faulty flapper valve seal the flapper is the rubber or the piece on the bottom of the tank that covers the flush valve if
64. 10:41it's not sealing property the water can slowly lean from the tank to the Bowl causing the toilet to constantly refill
65. 10:46and flush to fix this issue you're going to try adjusting or replacing the flapper valve C solution turn off the water supply to
66. 10:56the toilet flush it to drain most of the water out of the tank inspect it see if it's worn or damaged replace it ensure
67. 11:02that the new flapper creates a nice tight seal when closed your overflow tube it doesn't sound like an overflow tube to me though
68. 11:12and the fill valve yeah that's generally if it just keeps running the Overflow tube and the fill valve or those things
69. 11:18water pressure issues doesn't sound like that leaking flush handle nah it doesn't sound like that foreign
70. 11:25objects or debris do you have poop in your toilet maybe maybe you've got some poop in your toilet maybe that's the problem
71. 11:33step number one take all the poop out of your toilet step number two don't put any more poop back in there
72. 11:39I'm going with flapper valve I'm going flapper valve welcome to the AI learning lab and plumbing plumbing advice simple or Emporium
73. 11:56as jokey and silly as that was I mean I've been using Chachi PT to diagnose car issues and um all sorts of [ __ ] home issues
74. 12:06electric issues um so yeah yeah you can do that you can do it you too can make money with chat JP day all right welcome
75. 12:23you don't have to summon Jed clamp up with jazz PPT here's this yeah now we got a story about a man named ahead
76. 12:39and now the ground came some bubbling crude oil that is Texas Tea oh yeah [Laughter]
77. 12:54all right flap on flap off the flapper that's good that's good that's good 90s that's good 90s uh commercial PTSD
78. 13:03everything covered here exactly oh by the way the shirt tonight League of Rock
79. 13:19I'm about as qualified for plumbing advice as I am for AI advice but I give it anyway mansplaining is a Surface you're welcome
80. 13:30me and chat GPT we got you covered um hello everyone hey Nancy with shaking uh um you like the ants you like the Ann
81. 13:40Sullivan of Plumbing via chat GPT a perfect solution AI is going to help customer service reps everywhere I'll
82. 13:47tell you what with the when you start having conversations with pie if you haven't done that yet shame on you
83. 13:54especially if you've been here before Go download the PI app Pi data AI is the website but they also have an app I
84. 14:03think it's on both Android and iOS Pi personal assistant go find it it's from it's from inflection and
85. 14:13start talking with that thing and what you realize pretty quickly when you talk to Pi is that that's how all customer service should
86. 14:24be moving forward I would by ten thousand by a ten thousand time uh ten thousand votes to one I would rather talk to a synthesized bot
87. 14:40that's tied to a database that that knows all the [ __ ] that I'm gonna ask about then talk to a human being that
88. 14:46hasn't been trained up well enough and can't do anything it doesn't have any authority to do it so I think customer service is going to get
89. 14:55dramatically better and what's here's here's the here's the weird thing companies are gonna are gonna start
90. 15:02changing out their call centers for AI Bots because it's cheap it's going to be cheaper and we as customers are going to get
91. 15:13dramatically better customer service I think customer satisfaction is going to go up for big companies when they make this switch
92. 15:20because what the Smart Companies will do is they'll say um you know people like talking to the Bots Better Than People anyway but when the
93. 15:30Bots hit a snag and can't actually solve a problem they'll escalate it to a human that's actually trained
94. 15:36and actually has the authority to do something you'll get you'll get appropriate escalation just to build man I don't know how to
95. 15:44build that I the scaling of that is something crazy and the data ingestion and management of that is something
96. 15:50crazy but I'm telling you the the company or the person that makes the it just picks up the phone and starts
97. 15:57talking to you and it knows what the [ __ ] it's talking about they are gonna print money they are gonna make a fortune
98. 16:08uh flip and Fortune all right Firefly great to be here great to have you here Firefly welcome welcome welcome somebody sent me a
99. 16:18little crown that was a lovely little Crown I got the little pink Rosy Cheeks but I was over in that box um
100. 16:27wow I'm wired on coffee and obviously easily impressed with myself did 789 likes my new best oh my God we're up to almost 5 000 likes
101. 16:42already Winston you you were a significant percentage of that I don't know about you either you're regulars
102. 16:48Winston's almost up to a thousand likes and we're only at 5 000 total what are you napping I mean sure it's what is it 10 o'clock
103. 16:57nine o'clock 8 45 but that's 10 45 on the East Coast I know some of you weirdos are on the east coast and then we got freaks in South
104. 17:06Africa Australia they they're coming in from all over the world they're setting their alarms why are they coming here why why I don't know I
105. 17:16think it's for the competition I don't think it's for me I haven't bought a conduit for the Irregulars entertainment
106. 17:22of themselves you all know that's true all right Winston's totally a show-off but it is a competition it is life is a competition
107. 17:36life is a cavity old friend did you know that did you know you can make money um that she didn't know that that's y'all
108. 17:49pie was wrong about some stuff and when I corrected her she apologized and said what did she say hey hang on
109. 17:58my bad yeah I know my favorite thing about pie is when you say something and you kind of correct her and if you do it
110. 18:05in a smarmy kind of way she goes she can't she can't laugh right so she tries to to like speak out h-e-h-e and she goes it's very disturbing
111. 18:22hahaha oh man oh by the way Emilio's wife I'm gonna we're gonna do some experiments here let me just answer a few questions
112. 18:30we're gonna do an experiment with your data set so because it's something I've got open enrollment I've got like seven days to
113. 18:37do my open enrollment luckily I didn't get a PDF like you just showed me because oh my God it's awful um
114. 18:44all right let me let me see if there's any other questions here it's been a lot of hours today on pie does greatly
115. 18:50improve your prompts yep hey everyone farmer here also oh hey oh she's she's back welcome back Hey sir I wanted to
116. 18:57build an OCR trainer for normal and good purposes can we Workshop prompts an OCR trainer I don't know what an OCR trainer is
117. 19:12explain more what that is like you want to use Bing or Bard to read um like images that have text in them and then OCR the text out of them
118. 19:22we can we can try that maybe we'll do a little experimenting tonight because I'm trying I'm trying a thing with um
119. 19:29with Emilio wife's Insurance choices you'll see this this spreadsheet's a goddamn nightmare um and we'll we're gonna see if we can
120. 19:41get it to work so we might as well do some OCR stuff in there too Gemini nears release small group of companies given Early Access Ted looks
121. 19:50at life holy crap okay that's a big deal that's a big deal that's a big deal I'm a level 17 irregular total I like totals
122. 19:59level 17 Clinton level 17. I don't know all you level 12ers are you like are you content with your lives
123. 20:07I mean I hope you're feeling like I hope a left the level of Shame you must feel at a level 12 knowing that Clemson is 17.
124. 20:15and proclaiming himself a total so sad so sad um Winston is a show off now the irregular's starting to they're starting
125. 20:30to Feud we're gonna have a little like irregular Civil War in here thank you Stevo oh man how does one level up I have no
126. 20:40[ __ ] idea I just every now and then it says so and so reach level 17. I think diamonds are I don't I listen
127. 20:49as as the young people in here say oh isn't that cute look at the elderly teaching each other how to use AI so oh
128. 20:57that's lovely Winston thank you very much for that that was a good one oh Winston level 17 boom take that clip
129. 21:07you can't just sit up on the top of the mountain like proclaiming Victory not in this house all right let's let's go do some let's go play
130. 21:16uh if you if you have questions feel free to pop them down below uh I'm gonna show you this thing so this is I assume there's no there's
131. 21:29no like this is just a generic PDF right so okay so look at this horrific [ __ ] document remember when I said I think one of the
132. 21:39killer apps of AI is that it's going to take the ridiculously complicated and um simplify it so there's your Kaiser
133. 21:48Permanente plan there's medical plan one medical plan 2A medical plan to B Medical Plan Three HSA optional and then
134. 21:59you have all these [ __ ] numbers and none of us know what them they [ __ ] mean and then oh and then there's more
135. 22:04and it goes on and then there's more and it goes on and now now there's Moda so here's a here's another one and there's just like
136. 22:14this sea of [ __ ] numbers and none of us knows what it means and you know what I you know what this is like this is
137. 22:21like in the government you know how the government has compartmentalization where the the way they keep top secret
138. 22:27is no one knows the whole thing I bet that's how insurance companies work where there's one person that assembles
139. 22:34this spreadsheet but they don't know what any of the numbers mean and then there's whole divisions that are just
140. 22:39responsible for a column or a row or a cell all right so she's got this so so she's got seven days to pick from from all this [ __ ]
141. 22:51[Laughter] [ __ ] Healthcare in America those of you not in America this is what we [ __ ] deal with so what ends up
142. 22:59happening is this so our company spends I don't know we like we we pay a lot of our of our employees health health
143. 23:08insurance it's it's some ridiculous amount of money we're a very small company and we're paying I don't know
144. 23:14150 or 200 Grand a year and then the employees pay a bucket on top of that and then and then when you go to the
145. 23:22doctor they're like oh no I'm sorry that's not covered that's you're gonna have to pay that out of one of these
146. 23:27whatever you pay comes out of one of these numbers they don't tell you which one and like oh I'm sorry that's out of
147. 23:33network or it just anyway it it's criminal so that document we're gonna go now try to do something with it with chat JPay Tay and we're
148. 23:43gonna do we're gonna do chat chipity I think I think we'll do both things in chat gbt so wait uh oh can only select
149. 23:53from Moda no Kaiser okay great good piece of information to know so we're going to start with chat with your PDF and then I heard a
150. 24:05hack on this okay so so for for those of you that don't know chat GPT when you pay the 20 bucks a month you get access to gpt4
151. 24:19you get access to this thing called Advanced Data analysis which is really insane and we might play with that and
152. 24:26then you get an you get access to the thing called plugins within plugins um you can install lots of them but in
153. 24:38any given chat session you can only activate up to three and I'm gonna just pick one right now there is a plug-in called
154. 24:51chat chat with PDF ask your PDF I think it's ask your PDF I think it's ask your PDF so we're going to turn that on we're
155. 25:00going to turn web pilot off now I heard a hack okay so here's the hack someone told me oh I might have to create an account but that's okay
156. 25:10for Emilio's wife we'll do it we're gonna go to ask your
157. 25:26pdf.com upload document okay so we're going to upload this document healthcareplans.pdf
158. 25:41analyzing document all right so far so good so so here's what I heard so I can I don't know if I could well if I've got
159. 25:55a PDF that's on the web I can just put that URL in um in chat GPT with the ask your PDF plugin and it'll analyze it but what I heard is
160. 26:10better is that you upload the thing to ask your PDF and then there's supposed to be a number here if anyone knows how to do this let me
161. 26:26know resume conversation here we go ID Okay so I might ask your PDF let me make this bigger the summary states there are no lifetime
162. 26:40maximum maximums on any of the plans okay so so this is already started so so I've uploaded this healthcare plan
163. 26:47document it's got this ID right here so I'm going to copy that and then we're going to go over to chatgpt and apparently this so so
164. 26:58ask your PDF has already done some pre-processing on this PDF it clearly kind of understood what it was but I'm going to say um do you do
165. 27:10you understand what's in the PDF with this number and then I'm going to paste that big
166. 27:25long number and let's see what it says it should fire off the CH ask your PDF yep it fired off the ask your PDF plugin and it
167. 27:34should basically just give us what it had over there like yeah this is a a thing the PDF appears to be a document summary
168. 27:46benefits planned for the 2023-2024 year okay so it understands what's in the PDF the document provides details on various Medical Services
169. 28:02see so so what you're gonna have to do Emilio's wife is I go through here I don't quite know what to ask it so so
170. 28:09you you might need well well actually so what I'll what I'll do is we'll have chat GPT analyze the plans so what were
171. 28:17the plans you said was it called Moda um I can only choose from the Moda plans
172. 28:33Moda right Moda yeah I can only choose from the Moda plans and there are so many numbers and options that
173. 28:48it makes my head spin period can you describe the Moda options and give me a balance between monthly
174. 29:02premium and deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses Etc without giving me too much detail
175. 29:21period ideally what I want is a recommendation from you that strikes the right balance between these two period
176. 29:37some marketers show you which of their options is the best deal period can you do that for me with the Moda plans
177. 29:52now that may be way too much of a prompt but like what I guess what I'm trying to do here is I'm I'm actually trying to
178. 30:00imagine so imagine a a version of this in the future where we can talk to these things and because this is this is kind of what
179. 30:09I would say to a uh to an insurance agent so let's see let's see what it does so it's going to ask your PDF
180. 30:25certainly let's break down the Moda Health Plans based on generic 12 bucks for 31 day supply 36
181. 30:41bucks for 90 day supply so there's the pharmacy benefits wait Moto plans one through four oh I see plans one through four have all the
182. 30:52same Pharmacy benefits and then five through seven have all the same Pharmacy benefits General notes the individual deductible
183. 31:05this but this is just for drugs plans one through four seem to offer a balanced approach all right so
184. 31:20see plans one through four seem to offer a balanced approach with reasonable costs for generic drugs and preferred
185. 31:26Brands however the exact monthly premium deductible are not mentioned is that true I don't know that that's true hang on where is this it
186. 31:42let me go down Moda plans out of pocket now it's got the out of pocket here okay so it hallucinated all right this
187. 31:54is good to know so hallucinated basically told us I couldn't see all the [ __ ] so let's go yell at it um
188. 32:04I'm looking at the document and the out of pocket and monthly premiums are mentioned for the Moda plans ammo
189. 32:18D.A plans you only showed me the pharmacy section please look at the entire PDF
190. 32:33and make sure that you understand the entire plan before speaking to me give that guy give it a little dressing
191. 32:46down even hey I can't figure it out exactly this is all by Design you know oh look it has it it fired off the thing
192. 33:00twice what did it what did it find so the first time it got back the pharmacy stuff I apologize for the oversight
193. 33:12and this looks like it's got deductibles and stuff okay so it basically did two different things here we go
194. 33:19office and virtual care 20 to 30 bucks wait for let's break down the Moda plans based on the document uh
195. 33:55foreign let's break so now it looks like it it got us some amount of the information but
196. 34:13okay it it doesn't tell us which plan this is and it doesn't tell us the cost um I'm very disappointed period
197. 34:30you don't seem to understand the document period there are seven different Moda plans you only appear to have given me
198. 34:46information about one of them and you still haven't given me information about deductibles and out of pocket Etc please
199. 35:02try to look at the entire document and give me my options we may have to bail on this and go try code interpreter
200. 35:18we can also try I don't know if Claude can read PDFs but we can go try Claude I haven't really played with it
201. 35:28I apologize for the oversight let's delve deeper Moto plans one through four so wait so this says the cost of
202. 35:38Primary Care office for plans one through four is 30 bucks let's go look at the actual document oh this is [ __ ] maddening medical plan one
203. 35:53primary visits 20 bucks 20 bucks medical plan 3 is 25 4 is 25. so so it's just wrong so those are all wrong okay
204. 36:06so so this is good we're doing this primary care costs and incentive care visits 25 wait let me go
205. 36:24primary care now it got it got these wrong these these are just wrong outpatient no it just got them wrong okay
206. 36:34all right fine uh we're gonna tell chat GPT to take a hike although no you know what we're gonna do we're gonna go
207. 36:42what evil mind created that chart I know it's it's really bad okay we're gonna go try uh Advanced Data analysis let's see
208. 36:50if this can do PDFs um DD there's more than one way to skin a kid we're gonna skin this kit Healthcare plans.pdf
209. 37:05can you Analyze This PDF and tell me what it is let's just see if it can do that Share Bear join welcome share bear what's happening
210. 37:18I'll start by extracting the text from the PDF file once I have the text content I'll analyze it to determine its
211. 37:25content and provide a summary good thank you share bear loves me some gummies I love them gum this gum is tasty
212. 37:33the extracted content from the PDF appears to be related to health care plans here's a summary of what I've extracted
213. 37:39the name Kaiser Permanente network is repeated multiple times there are different plans mentioned fine
214. 37:48would you like a more detailed analysis or any other specifications sections you'd like to one of the companies is moda and I'd
215. 38:01like you to explain their plans to there wait hang on there plans dang it plans to me
216. 38:16as if I were a third grader period these plans are purposefully convoluted and I'm just trying to make a simple choice
217. 38:28I'm hoping you can help I am in deep agonizing frustratingly saucy pain
218. 38:43as a result of trying to understand this purposefully obfuscated information about my health as a human being period
219. 38:58please make the pain stop [Music] [Laughter] let's break it down imagine you have a
220. 39:13toy store membership card depending on which one you want to buy okay deductible this is like the entrance fee
221. 39:20you pay this amount before your membership cards start helping you get the discount so if you have a hundred
222. 39:25dollar deductible you pay the first hundred dollars on your own out of pocket maximum think of this as the safety net
223. 39:32oh my God in network versus out of network blah blah okay from the document the Moda plans seem to offer
224. 39:42you pay a certain amount 25 30 bucks and as your membership card so it's continuing to explain it like we're in third grade which is cool
225. 39:50virtual care if you talk to a doctor online it's like a virtual toy some plans let you do this for free While others might ask you for a bit
226. 40:00specialty Visions okay Okay so [Music] that helps explain things generally but I'm hoping that you can
227. 40:15actually look at the specific data for each plan give me an overview and explain to me
228. 40:30the pros and cons of each plan period at the end of explaining the pros and cons I'd like you to recommend two plans that
229. 40:41you feel strike the greatest balance between small monthly premiums and decent coverage all right
230. 40:57let's see Absolutely I'll go through the details of the mode of plans and I'll highlight the pros and cons I I
231. 41:10have my gut is telling me that code interpreter or Advanced Data analysis is going to be able to do this better
232. 41:16because it because it understands what what csvs are and assuming that it it maintained the column structure of the PDF it should be
233. 41:25able to dump that so it says it seems I made an oversight let me correct that and extract the details for the Moto
234. 41:32plan so what did it do here Moda compile service Clean Service strip so it looks like it's stripping out stuff
235. 41:45it seems I'm having difficulty however I can still work with the details we have and provide some okay so
236. 42:00it just choked networker um let's see let me stop generating rather than trying to analyze right now can you take
237. 42:16the Moda data foreign and put it in a data table so that you can
238. 42:30manipulate it like any other CSV message and conversation not found okay so we're going to start over all right
239. 42:46hang on starting over uh that's another thing sometimes these things are just they kind of crap the bed and you can't do anything so I'm
240. 42:53gonna say this is a PDF of health care plans I'd like you to collect the information for the Moda
241. 43:09plans Moda is a hard word for OCR or for voice to text and put them in a data frame so that you
242. 43:24can interact with them just like any other CSV period is that possible ah I we are we having fun yet we're
243. 43:36having fun right we're having fun we're having fun by the way for those of you that are new here so so what we're
244. 43:40trying to do is we're trying to do an actual real world application um one of our lovely Irregulars Emilio's wife has this horrific
245. 43:51set of options which I'm sure we all do right now it's open enrollment season and here's all the [ __ ] crap you
246. 43:59gotta sift through and figure out isn't it clear all of this look just look at these numbers and pick one of these 17
247. 44:06plans and we'll still screw you and take too much money out of your check and when you go to get something done we'll
248. 44:12refuse to pay it yay in Insurance in America the best yay I hope someone in here works for one of these God forsaken companies you should
249. 44:25hurt at night I don't mind most corporations but health insurance companies bad all right so
250. 44:42where are we where were we let's see um of course I'll start back so it appears that it's been successfully
251. 44:49extracted but the formatting might be messy I can see references to various plans if you proceed it seems I couldn't find any
252. 44:57sections labeled Moda plan oh that's because it's an image uh this is painful this is [ __ ] painful
253. 45:12so so they have a logo here but they nowhere do they have Moda they've got medical plan one Connexus Network
254. 45:20all right so I assume that's different than Kaiser right yeah Kaiser Permanente Network okay okay so Connexus Networks c-o-n-n-e-x-u-s so so
255. 45:36notice what we're having to do here we're having to essentially think like programmers to even be able to ask chat GPT
256. 45:45how to look at this document now if we had this as a CSV file which I'm sure we could probably get it as one it it would probably be easier
257. 45:55but this is where just getting really curious with these tools is really important so so what we're going to say is this um
258. 46:06the Moda plans are the ones that are connected to the Connexus Network period can you pull the data related to that Network
259. 46:19and put it in a day but data table for us no not save the table data table come on you dumb dumb
260. 46:38sure I'll look for the sections related to the Connexus Network [Music] what are we gonna name this collection
261. 46:49of doctors that refuse to do any work uh let's call it Connexus it sounds like connection and Lexus because I want a new Lexus
262. 47:00I would like the Lexus 450 XL gold platinum diamond reserve the 2024 model so Connexus will get me my new car I
263. 47:13apologize for the inconvenience it appears that extracting text from the PDF might be more challenging let me take a different approach
264. 47:20so now I'm starting to get as mad at Chachi BT as I am at the insurance companies what did he do did it just stop
265. 47:29wait let's take a different approach if you can provide a deep brief description of the layout of the document oh God
266. 47:38now I want you to be magic is this text yeah plans one to four plans one through four plans continued
267. 47:53okay so we can say sure the Moda plans have bold text at
268. 48:08the top of the pages that say plans 1-4 and another set of plans marked plans 5-7
269. 48:23please gather the information from those seven plans so that we can start making a decision all right let's see if we can get something here
270. 48:36I'll give this one more shot we'll see we'll see if we can get it to at least grab the data and if not I'm gonna I'm
271. 48:42gonna pop it over into Claude because I think Claude it'll just be interesting to see can Claude do this better than
272. 48:50than chat gbt I doubt it but you never know and then I don't think I don't think we can upload this to Bard
273. 48:58I don't think we can upload this to Bing because both of both of those can read images so it says it still can't
274. 49:07they're still not able to get it um there's one other way to maybe skin this cat hang on let's see uh I think this will work
275. 49:32copy foreign [Laughter]
276. 49:49it's like Madden except not fun that didn't work did it nope uh
277. 50:03delete let's go see if chat gbt figured anything out I guess I'm not oh wait great we managed to extract headers from
278. 50:15different plan sections nope I forgot to import the pandas Library all right so now it's making its own
279. 50:29data frame so it looks like maybe it got some some data for the data frames it's gonna It's Gonna Fill In missing
280. 50:38values with not a number see they've got they've got collapsed cells and stuff like that so the thing that makes it
281. 50:45easier to read as a human makes it much harder for the for the computer to parse the data but it's it's attempting to do its thing so
282. 50:54what you're looking at here if if you've joined new this is code interpreter or Advanced Data analysis within chat gbt
283. 51:02we uploaded a PDF of Health Plan information and now we're just trying to get it to understand the data in the PDF
284. 51:11you know as if it were in a CSV and it's basically sort of coaching itself through trying to make it work
285. 51:19and I have a feeling it's going to fail miserably yeah the additional cost to your column seem to have fewer entries than the plan name
286. 51:28and network name columns that this mismatch is what's causing me to have a headache chat EVT is like I need a [ __ ] drink [Laughter]
287. 51:46um would you like me to proceed with any specific analysis or manipulations of the data um why yes I'd like you to help me
288. 51:56understand the specifics of each of the seven plans and then recommend two of them that you think strike the best
289. 52:03balance between cost and coverage I have zero confidence that's gonna work zero confidence zero confidence
290. 52:22coverage this would include benefits medical services covered any extra features Etc cost this generally includes premiums deductibles
291. 52:30out-of-pocket maximums co-payments Etc plan one we don't have the detailed specifics to go behind no additional specifics
292. 52:41no it's got nothing wait plan plan five no no this is a fail fail me fail all right done now we're gonna go try Claude
293. 52:54I I I I I I hate to be the bearer of bad news Amelia's life I think you might need to actually look at these stupid
294. 53:03documents uh but let's try Claude uh uh when AI couldn't save the day actually um what what would potentially do it if if
295. 53:19Clyde can't do it is if you got if you reached out to the to the HR people or the insurance people it's probably
296. 53:27the HR people whoever's the managing group dartboard strategy exactly um reach out to the people that gave you
297. 53:34this PDF and see if they can get access to the to the CSV to the to the Excel files from Moda um that was used to put in that stupid
298. 53:46[ __ ] chart they gave you start a new chat okay so we're gonna say um I let's see I am allowed to
299. 54:02only choose Moda plans in this Healthcare document there are
300. 54:17seven plans from Moda and I want to
301. 54:33understand the pros and cons of each of them period can you help me analyze the details of each of the seven plans
302. 54:50all right let's see what Claude does with this thing the last time I tried a PDF with Claude it did not like it at all
303. 55:03based on the healthcare plan document here's a comparisons Moto plan one Connexus Network that seems right 400 deductible
304. 55:12oh this is looking right hang on hold on is Claude coming to our rescue plan one hundred dollar copay wait Moda plans
305. 55:28only what did it say 400 individual 1500 family deductible is
306. 55:47that right foreign I can't read this document
307. 56:03100 copay where's the oh continue that's why okay plan one four hundred dollar deductible 1500 okay that looks right and then plan two was
308. 56:15800 2700 okay let's go let's go back to cloudy cloudy Claude in some remote plans one to four have co-pays
309. 56:30and lower deductibles while five and seven have coinsurance and higher deductibles lower numbered plans
310. 56:42have lower out-of-pocket Maxes Moda 6 has the lowest deductible and out of pocket oh my God like even this thing
311. 56:50explaining it simply is making my head [ __ ] explode um listen comma I'm a dumb dumb and even your simple explanation at the
312. 57:06bottom is confusing me beyond my imagination period I went to school period I read stuff period I know how to use a calculator period
313. 57:21why is this so hard to understand question mark can you please explain to me the difference between the one through four plans and the five
314. 57:36through seven plans even more simply now was was all of that that shame showing off necessary no it makes me feel better I understand health
315. 57:51insurance can be confusing so let me try explaining plans one to four you have a co-pay for a doctor the deductible and out of
316. 58:01pocket are lower you start getting coverage right away since many services have co-pays in the deductible is lower
317. 58:09five to seven you pay the percentage of costs coinsurance after meeting the deductible for example you might pay 25 percent oh I get it
318. 58:18so this is actually helping okay Emilio's wife so I don't know if you can understand this [ __ ] so basically
319. 58:25the okay so okay so this is interesting okay so now so so here's now here's what I want to understand okay I get it conceptually now can you
320. 58:36please do the analysis and help me determine what is going to cost me
321. 58:50the least on an annual basis for the most coverage assuming average doctor visits for a Gen X couple
322. 59:10this is actually kind of cool I mean the fact that the fact that Claude could figure this out and chat EBT couldn't
323. 59:16this is a really good example of um the reason to kind of have so so one of the things I you know I show all the
324. 59:25time is I've got these different tools right I've got this is the adults table the the the these are the biggies right
325. 59:33and then this is the Kids Table and there's seven of them right there's CH there's Chachi PT Claude bard Bing perplexity I don't really use
326. 59:44that's just there to play with pi I don't really use other than to talk to it Poe I don't really use so Bing so
327. 59:50there's kind of four that are my go-to's these these three plus Bing and so this is a really good example
328. 59:56where chat GPT both with plugins and code interpreter didn't do this well oh look what it did here this is cool this is really cool
329. 1:00:08okay let's run through an example assumptions you and your spouse are in your 40s Gen X ooh this obviously doesn't know what Gen X is
330. 1:00:18um you plan to get physical routines you plan to take one generic prescription regularly um so so so let's see um let's up the ages to
331. 1:00:31late 50s and daily prescriptions to three I have no idea what's going on in your life with me Leo's wife but I know in
332. 1:00:41mine that should get us in the neighborhood mm-hmm okay here's a comparison how much does Claude cost claude's free
333. 1:00:57um but they just announced Claude Pro and so what I think they did was they actually they're actually reducing the amount of
334. 1:01:08uh interactions you can get for the free version and then if you pay the 20 bucks you can do more the the
335. 1:01:16real power thing about Claude is that it can take big documents and apparently it can read health insurance plans better
336. 1:01:24than chat gbt okay here's the cost you're in your late 50s three generic prescriptions a day two sick visits one
337. 1:01:31urgent care routine physical so so it this is interesting it kind of did this like like a like a like a food um
338. 1:01:43whatever you call it a food uh like a Yelp right with the three dollar signs so Moda plan one the premiums are
339. 1:01:53three dollar signs the co-pays are three dollar signs the total is three dollar signs Moda plan two the premiums are lower
340. 1:02:01the co-pays are high and the overall is high Plan Three is small premiums all right let's see so all of the totals are about the same
341. 1:02:18um with increased prescriptions Moda plan one Remains the lowest cost option oh so this is weird so it looks like you only gave me
342. 1:02:32dollar signs where actual numbers would be period did you do that on purpose question mark if not can you please give
343. 1:02:43me this list with actual numbers from the plan that's what I wanted a cost estimator there you go okay cool
344. 1:03:00so we're getting there emilios this is why you've come all these nights this was all your plan this was your plan all
345. 1:03:06along show up for months every single night so that I would help you figure out your plan you're absolutely right as an
346. 1:03:14AI assistant without access to specific plan details okay if forgot it had the plans okay so we're gonna re-upload the plan
347. 1:03:28it looks like you may have forgotten that I uploaded the plan earlier period attached is the PDF that has
348. 1:03:39a number of plans including Modas plans one through seven period Moda
349. 1:03:54please give me please give me a cost estimator like you did before but now use the actual data from this PDF
350. 1:04:09all right let's see it finally paid off exactly 9 30 Denver time and 21 000 likes I mean I'm just sitting here like banging my
351. 1:04:23head against the keyboard trying to get these tools to behave in any way like they can help us but listen hey not for nothing it can
352. 1:04:33write you a country song about your chubby dog or a turtle at the county fair data can do really well you're right my apologies now that
353. 1:04:42you've provided the health plans and details okay assumptions so it did remember so now it's still giving us the weird ass
354. 1:04:49dollar signs only based on the plans oh and I've only got three messages remaining until 2 A.M so we get we get three more shots to do this
355. 1:05:03again you didn't include any actual numbers period please look at the PDF and the actual numbers of the plans
356. 1:05:12before doing your cost estimators so the I'm a librarian the the um what's it called rate limiting they call
357. 1:05:25it the rate limiting I'm hitting right now is um it would be five times this if I were paying the 20 bucks a month
358. 1:05:42ask it to do a cost analysis given certain parameters okay we can try that ah here we go oh this is actually pretty cool
359. 1:06:06so this is same assumptions Moda plan one premiums 732 a month offensive 87 91 annually co-pays three grand total 11 000.
360. 1:06:20or 11 800 plan two less per month 3300 in copays but 11 000 total so that's looking pretty good
361. 1:06:45all right so the overall annual it looks like it looks like plans one and two are the most expensive by a lot [Music] um
362. 1:07:03co-insurance forty three hundred uh let's see
363. 1:07:24this is perfect can you now put in some of the elements of things like prescription payments doctor visits Etc
364. 1:07:40so I can see what I get for my money um so so it seems to me Emilio's wife that
365. 1:07:58you you should take take this document upload it to clutch seems like it can actually do this and and you know kind of more
366. 1:08:07specifically what you want to look at like it can at least explain [ __ ] to you let's see what it does with this next
367. 1:08:12I've got I've got two two uh prompts left you're right breaking out okay oh I see what it was doing it it was
368. 1:08:27doing the the co-pays oh that's interesting oh I see what it was doing okay so so it was sort of it was sort of
369. 1:08:41um in this in this analysis up here here's your premiums you're paying and then saying your co-pays are 3 700 I was
370. 1:08:47trying to figure out where that came from and it it had six Primary Care visits 240 bucks that's based on that
371. 1:08:54rate two Urgent Care visits I guess it's 40 bucks an Urgent Care visit two specialist visits six prescription drugs total copay
372. 1:09:04um so yeah this this could this could probably give it to you let me know if breaking out estimates for co-pays
373. 1:09:11um I think I've got one message left so based on everything you see here can you give me a recommendation of the
374. 1:09:22two plans that you feel represent the best deal for me and my spouse
375. 1:09:37[Music] one of my meds is a hundred K and I need it every six months unbelievable I know I've got kids with chronic lyme disease
376. 1:09:52and [ __ ] nothing is covered nothing the insurance companies basically go after doctor's medical licenses if they
377. 1:10:02try to you know prescribe anything outside of their horrific oh it's uh it's so criminal it's so criminal I'm so angry all the time about
378. 1:10:12this [ __ ] um based on the plan details and cost estimates my top two recommendations are Moda plan one lower premiums at 8 700
379. 1:10:25annually co-pays for services mean you pay a fixed dollar amount versus the co-insurance percentage that's a good
380. 1:10:33point lower co-pays for office visits your total estimated cost is 9 200 bucks although it gave us a different
381. 1:10:40estimated cost before so so again some of the math you're gonna have to sort of check the math here um it's saying Moda plan 4 comes in at 6
382. 1:10:53500 that's not what it's set up here before said Moto plan for oh yeah it does oh wait is that oh yeah
383. 1:11:03but wait is that what it's set up here no see up here it said it was 9600 and down here it's saying 6500. so it's doing some
384. 1:11:14hallucinating here but like I feel like I feel like at least what you could do with Claude at least here is have it give you sort of the the
385. 1:11:24like distill out you know the most important pieces of each plan and then you can sort of go back and forth and
386. 1:11:31check between what Claude did and what's in that PDF and it'll just at least help you make sense of it so anyway all right
387. 1:11:39Rabbit Hole done I'd pick plan five on my own oh interesting yeah what what did they say plan five was plan five
388. 1:11:49yeah 9 500 so that's the one with coinsurance so your risk there with coinsurance is if you've got an expensive office visit you're paying
389. 1:11:58higher than the flat the flat fee you'd pay with plans one through four all right well there you have it all right I hope that helped uh
390. 1:12:10[Music] [Laughter] wow wow
391. 1:12:25this is the [ __ ] that AI needs to fix like like let's assume that insurance companies are gonna keep being [ __ ] and
392. 1:12:33they're going to keep doing this right because you know they will until someone else buys someone else a politician and but if AI can
393. 1:12:44take all that nonsense and just easily with all this these complicated decisions we have to make in our lives
394. 1:12:51just you know instead of us having to struggle to figure out which tool to use we've got some sort of agent that we can
395. 1:13:00just talk to and go go make [ __ ] sense of this to me you know my preferences you know go figure that [ __ ] out and come back with two
396. 1:13:08recommendations and you know and they don't hallucinate and they do actual math and you know that's kind of the
397. 1:13:14three year out my you know three to five years out these things should be doing a lot of this [ __ ] for us where
398. 1:13:23remember when we asked had to actually look at PDFs with like big columns and numbers in it and figure that [ __ ] out
399. 1:13:29that's what we'll be saying in five years we ain't there now oh my God what a nightmare that was all right
400. 1:13:39let's get going here way to hijack alive yeah Emilio's wife what are you thinking here I bet I bet you were sitting there
401. 1:13:46the whole time just watching me do that work and you weren't even tapping the like screen you were letting all the
402. 1:13:51other other Irregulars get us up to 22 000 likes you're probably just sitting there like oh that's curious I know how
403. 1:13:57this goes I got it that segment gave a great power nap all right welcome to the AI learning lab let's get started tonight okay so if any
404. 1:14:09of you survived that um here's where I think you should go play is chat.openai.com you know what's funny
405. 1:14:21you know what's striking me all of a sudden thank you share bear um for the past month or month and a half
406. 1:14:30a fair amount of people in here and a fair amount of people and Tick Tock or in in Twitter land and things like that
407. 1:14:37are saying that gpt4 is not programming as well it's it's not as good and then and then some people not all
408. 1:14:45but some people have been saying Claude is better than gpt4 the fact that we couldn't get gpt4 to [ __ ] figure out a relatively decently
409. 1:14:55structured PDF and Claude could figure it out something's going on man open enrollment season at the AI
410. 1:15:02learning lab good Lord I know right oh that was exhausting um yeah that was weird that was weird so again
411. 1:15:13this reinforces something that I've been saying for a while that that what you need to do with these tools is don't get
412. 1:15:19too precious with any of them everything's changing all the time and some of that [ __ ] that's changing is
413. 1:15:24behind the scenes like I don't know what's going on with gpt4 but maybe they're [ __ ] with the model to make it I don't know less um
414. 1:15:32less reliant on copywritten training data or sorry I like I don't even think that's possible but let's just say
415. 1:15:38they're doing something like that um the most important thing to do right now is understand conceptually how these
416. 1:15:48tools work and and just use them enough that you start to understand the limitations of each one and and just be
417. 1:15:55able to bounce between them because they're all basically the same [ __ ] it's all basically a box some of them are connected to the
418. 1:16:02internet some are not some you can upload pictures some you can upload data files none of them are perfect all of them
419. 1:16:10hallucinate sometimes they're [ __ ] brilliant to the point that you're like holy [ __ ] and then other times like you
420. 1:16:17spent whatever we spent [ __ ] half an hour with chat GPT or 20 minutes trying to get it to just see the [ __ ] document
421. 1:16:27all right so carrying on welcome hey I don't know if you knew this name's Kyle Shannon it's the home of smooth jazz and
422. 1:16:37huh fantastic Bob come on in the water's nice you're gonna like it in here artificial intelligence machine learning we do it all
423. 1:16:47what are what are my qualifications that's cute that's very cute anyway carrying on all right Bruno we're Claude fan girls up in here
424. 1:16:58right Silver Fox exactly that's awesome oh man yeah I I'm Claude is Claude is listen I'm a big fan of anthropic I'm a
425. 1:17:14big fan of the Constitutional learning model I want them to win what the weird thing about about anthropic is that their primary mission
426. 1:17:26is not to make AGI open ai's Prime imperative is to get to AGI artificial general intelligence basically a chat that's smarter than all
427. 1:17:39of us and can reason better anthropic's core mission is to make sure that whoever gets the a AGI doesn't
428. 1:17:48destroy the world so anthropic's all about safety so my only concern with them is because their primary focus is
429. 1:17:56not the tool but the safety of the tool um they may not keep keep up but they're doing pretty [ __ ] good right now and
430. 1:18:05their hundred thousand token context Windows pretty flipping amazing gpt4 is programmed much better for probability
431. 1:18:13statistics mathematics calculation or calculus and Etc yeah and I find it much better for for General writing stuff as well like I I
432. 1:18:21think the I was talking to a reporter friend of mine today that I knew from New York days back in the 90s and and
433. 1:18:29she was saying that she liked what Claude could process but when it actually came to like writing articles
434. 1:18:35she was like boy was it boring it was really bad so all again all of these tools learning what they're good at what
435. 1:18:41they're not good at is is a big part of the trick all right let's see uh if you're new here pop any questions you have down
436. 1:18:51below and I'll spend I'll spend 45 minutes trying to get these stupid tools to look at a PDF file that was the first time we Dove that
437. 1:19:03deep into something that was pretty cool though that was that was actually a really good um like I feel like that was a good
438. 1:19:08learning exercise for me hopefully hopefully you know you're paying attention a little bit I know I wasn't
439. 1:19:14exactly uh being articulate in what I was doing but I was just trying to figure some [ __ ] out all right there's
440. 1:19:21talk about AI regulations yeah so so um in fact I just the the talk that I gave tonight today D I cut together this video from Elon Musk
441. 1:19:34where he was talking about so so he and whatever 10 10 other AI CEOs um met with Chuck Schumer in a in a in
442. 1:19:47an AI meeting how do you think they took the message that you brought them well I think it was it was very um civilized
443. 1:19:54discussion basically what he says is everyone in there thinks that regulation is important um he feels that
444. 1:20:01um there will likely be some sort of like FAA or or FCC kind of you know regulatory body and he supports that and you know
445. 1:20:12he said he thinks that the the meeting with Schumer may go down as historic so they didn't none of them really talked
446. 1:20:18about what they talked about in there I realize I can get rid of all insurance no wife no children and rather die than
447. 1:20:25look at that I know and and you know what Winston what what is the really [ __ ] up thing about that statement
448. 1:20:31about insurance is that's exactly that that is by Design that's exactly the response that they want if we make this complicated enough
449. 1:20:41people will just give up and stop trying to fight us to get us to pay for their [ __ ] It Is by Design and it's disgusting it is Criminal
450. 1:20:52open enrollment season at AI learning um isn't that special now we know what what they're not good at
451. 1:21:09aren't you special well we give you a little simple Health Care exercise there and you couldn't do it why was that why
452. 1:21:17do you think you couldn't do that Chachi PT was it that you're not smart enough no that's not it I wonder what it could oh could be Satan
453. 1:21:28might have been Satan uh well it was just okay for me that's just mean I appreciated seeing all the back and forth to make it work yeah a
454. 1:21:38little bit um it that that's one of the other things about the working with chat GPT is much more like working with a really thick-headed
455. 1:21:50intern then like a Google search it's it's much more like wait how thick are you oh God you're really thick okay let me spell it out
456. 1:22:03um they just happen to be really well educated [Music] guilty King true um put Medicare into the equation oh my
457. 1:22:14God I'm in the middle of that right now yeah Claude feels like you're in a big empty room sometimes Pie's couch is much more comfortable
458. 1:22:27oh that's hilarious uh I'm at the bottom of comments here um let me see you know what I'll do let me um because there might be some folks in
459. 1:22:40here if you have any questions about a AI pop them in the comments below um I've Got Mods that'll that'll pop
460. 1:22:46them to the Top If it's anything interesting I'm gonna show you right now um all these tools that I was kind of
461. 1:22:55talking about generically before just just because if there's people in here that are new so if you're brand new to
462. 1:23:00chat GPT go go right there if you haven't played with chat EBT that's the official chat GPT website Claude and
463. 1:23:07Bard and Bing are kind of the the top four that I I sort of Bounce Around between woohoo thank you Kyle back oh Kyle back
464. 1:23:18to funny characters and interesting voices what what darling I don't know what you're talking about why would you
465. 1:23:24why would you say that my my characters are funny my characters are very very serious well you're wrong Dr brusa I'm very proud to
466. 1:23:34be a woman name that movie name that movie all right um it's a classic it's a classic you're awesome Kyle you completed my
467. 1:23:47thoughts exactly with the church lady I'm good perfect that's why I'm here um so Claude we just played with Claude
468. 1:23:55you can put really big documents in Bard is connected to the internet so those three are good um Bing is also connected to the internet
469. 1:24:04it can also make images even though they're shitty it can make them it can read images uh it can occasionally
470. 1:24:11answer a question but the safety guard rails on it are so egregious that you basically can't get anything done with
471. 1:24:17it they got to fix that [ __ ] um metas llama 2 models are being hosted at labs.perplexity that's pretty
472. 1:24:25interesting Pi dot AI you can chat with that's really good Poe is they've got Bots and things like that oh
473. 1:24:33Winston coming in strong with the Llama did you see what oh and Winston just hit Level 18. take that Clint
474. 1:24:45did anyone get my movie reference you're wrong Dr Brewster I'm very proud to be a woman [Laughter] oh my God that was a good movie
475. 1:25:02um okay so that's those then these there's a lot going on here so screenshot screenshot right now and
476. 1:25:08if you're on a Samsung you can't not Mrs Doubtfire close Silver Fox nope not Mrs Doubtfire not Mrs Doubtfire not Robin Williams
477. 1:25:17you're wrong Dr Brewster I'm very proud to be a woman Jessica Lang was in it um um these are the image generation tools
478. 1:25:31except Tootsie I'm a librarian winner winner chicken dinner it was when the when the creepy soap opera actor comes in for a kiss and she
479. 1:25:41slaps him laughs and then there's that line from the one cameraman where where the the director like the camera Zooms in on Tootsie and
480. 1:25:53the director goes he goes could you pull back a little and someone goes how far and the cameraman goes how about Toledo
481. 1:25:59oh my God that was a good movie um mid-journey is kind of the best of the image generation tools in terms of just
482. 1:26:08quality of image but you have to make images in Discord which is a pain in the ass uh and there's not a free version
483. 1:26:18and it can't do text ideogram is free right now but my guess is it won't be for long but it can do text although the
484. 1:26:26image generation part of it ain't nearly as good as mid Journeys Leonardo is is actually a really solid product
485. 1:26:34web-based image generation tool um based on stable diffusion and then heygen.com go to labs.hn.com and click on the video translation tool
486. 1:26:48and you can make could not be reverted is this working check this out so hey Jen is the video translation tool there
487. 1:27:02allows for this if you haven't seen it so we've heard from a number of clients that modular content is important to
488. 1:27:08them getting more efficient with how we create content and how we leverage content is so you'll notice it re-synced my lips it
489. 1:27:23synth my voice I'm speaking fluent Italian with the right accent um so so that's that's hey Jen these little green boxes
490. 1:27:36that's hey Jen right there [Music] um and then Adobe Firefly and photoshop's generative fill went live two days ago so it's out of beta and
491. 1:27:52what that basically means is that anything you make in the Adobe generative AI stuff you can now use commercially and their models have not
492. 1:28:00been trained on copywritten materials so that's a big big deal and then openart.ai prompt book will teach you how to talk to those image
493. 1:28:09generation tools all right that's dad stuff let's see if we got some questions somebody pinned a comment I don't see
494. 1:28:18any pinned comments right now with that Robin Williams no that was Dustin Hoffman that was Dustin Hoffman as Tootsie
495. 1:28:27you're wrong Dr Bruce I'm very proud to be a woman such a good movie maybe hey Jen could have translated the Moda plans for us oh my God
496. 1:28:41it couldn't have done worse wow how many languages eight languages right now the I saw there was a um there was a live session with the
497. 1:28:54co-founder of hey Jen today that a number of a number of us from in here were in it and the co-founder and chief product officer
498. 1:29:06Tick Tock won't allow screenshot it blacks out so what you have to do I think Clint is go out of the live to your
499. 1:29:15um timeline where you can still see the live I think you can screenshot it out there or you can go to um
500. 1:29:24open it up in a web browser and just let me know when you do that and I'll just pop it up on screen again um what's that what that
501. 1:29:37well when I eat them out in my own Walmart um best tool to help folks with resumes there may be some specific resume tools
502. 1:29:53I would say check out futurepedia.io and just search for resumes and see if there's like I I would imagine that in a cool in a tool
503. 1:30:04like copy AI or or uh what's that other one called um uh what the [ __ ] I can't um this is ones that are like pre-prompted
504. 1:30:17like lots of different widgets that are all written on top of GPT there might be some that specifically do resumes um
505. 1:30:25what I would do is I would probably use Claude for this I would upload an old resume um copy as much of your data out of your
506. 1:30:37LinkedIn profile as you can and either save that as a like a text file or just paste it into Claude and then I would I would also put in
507. 1:30:46either a job description or or describe the kind of job you want to get and then just have it write a resume based on a
508. 1:30:53previous resume or based on an example resume you like you could go you could you could go get examples of
509. 1:31:00good resume formats or even have Claude or chat GPT tell you that and then just have it match that format pulling all your data out of your
510. 1:31:11um out of your LinkedIn profile I I would do something like that just because again I think that I think that learning
511. 1:31:20how to interact with these things and just kind of troubleshoot with them as much of a pain in the ass as it is every
512. 1:31:26time I do that like it sort of locks something away in my brain of like okay now I know how to get around that thing
513. 1:31:32now now I know how to problem solve that because I you know the next two years are just going to be lots and lots of
514. 1:31:39tools resume help might be through gpt4's plug-in ambition great so I don't know that plug-in so I'm a librarian um
515. 1:31:50uh Firefly just made that um recommendation ambition is a I guess it's a resume building tool that's really cool that's really smart I like
516. 1:32:01it it's solid solid tools to do text to speech with Avatar and input to hey Jen well there's a hey gen um there's a hey gen plug-in
517. 1:32:15which you can just tell it to go make you a video and it will sort of pick its own it'll pick its own avatar and voice
518. 1:32:22thing you can go to hey Jen you can go to dash ID you can go to Synthesia you can go to uh what's the other one and I can't remember it
519. 1:32:35does I'm helping patrons with theirs and sometimes they don't have digital skills at all yeah yeah that's that's rough um in in that case
520. 1:32:52I assume canva has resumes in it doesn't it I I would say go go look at the plugin that Firefly just talked about ambition
521. 1:33:01I would say go there and then let me go see if canva has resumes I bet they do canva.com resume [Music]
522. 1:33:19yeah so canva has oh they've got piles of resume templates so yeah
523. 1:33:34so I'd go find a template that looks good here and then you could probably a couple of ways to do it but I would
524. 1:33:47basically just sort of copy copy the text out of one of these templates and pop it into um Chachi be to your Claude have it rewrite it with
525. 1:34:01I think this is going to be a clod thing because it's you got you got you got too many too many documents here you take the text from
526. 1:34:08one of the resumes from canva as the format or like here's the sections that I need you take your LinkedIn information or
527. 1:34:19just whatever job information that they type in then you take a job description and then you have it rewrite their resume kind of
528. 1:34:28based on that format using their data there's probably a tool well you know there's a oh wait hang on I don't need to be a dumb dumb about
529. 1:34:43this I'm a little Punchy because I I give a talk tonight so I'm a little I'm a little like uh whatever you call it well
530. 1:34:51look at my hair uh there's there's a lot going on here tonight um let me try something there's a canva plug-in let's go try the canva plugin
531. 1:35:06[Music] plug-in store canva canva install okay so I'm installing the canva plugin
532. 1:35:22and now it's turned on and I'm going to say um let me go to LinkedIn [Music] linked and
533. 1:35:40Kyle Shannon that's me you did it yay experience can I show all experiences show all experiences he's a chief generator officer yes he is
534. 1:35:56he's a Founder he's a Content publisher he's an EVP creative he's all of those things all right there's all my [ __ ]
535. 1:36:07so I'm gonna grab all my [ __ ] and then I'm gonna go in here to chat GPT and I'm gonna go based on this LinkedIn profile
536. 1:36:27I'm gonna paste all that crap in I hope it's not too long um write me a resume
537. 1:36:41that amplifies my experience with AI so that I can get a nine hundred thousand dollar prompt engineer job
538. 1:36:58let's see if let's see if it sends it off and does anything on canva um objective dedicated experienced professional with a profound
539. 1:37:09understanding of generative Technologies you hear that people I have a profound understanding it's not an understanding
540. 1:37:17it's not an understanding it's a profound understanding seeking a position as a prompt engineer with a rich history and creative
541. 1:37:26strategy content Evolution and AI driven initiatives I aim to leverage my expertise okay so it did that stuff pretty good
542. 1:37:40Okay so can you find a template on canva and put all of that information in the template so it looks pretty and
543. 1:37:55professional and so I don't have to do any technical work let's see if it does it I'm a librarian let's see if we can help your people
544. 1:38:06do this come on chat gbt you failed you failed Emilio's wife it was it was really not good it was really you were really bad tonight
545. 1:38:15Emilio's wife oh Marianna Anderson hello what oh I found some professional templates on canva for you
546. 1:38:30here are some options so there's black and white minimalist there's minimalist white and gray and there's blue professional
547. 1:38:43that one looks like some sort of Romper Room thing that one's nice and professional I think that one's more classic so if I were if
548. 1:38:52I were applying for a Fortune 500 job I'd go down but let's go with let's go with black and white minimalist oh wait oh there's more
549. 1:39:02pink simple all right select one of the templates above once you've made your choice I'll help populate it with your resume
550. 1:39:10details I'm a librarian look how cool this is this is this is like this is like my night to learn I'm like this is the AI learning
551. 1:39:19lab it's going the other direction tonight I'm digging it look at all this [ __ ] I'm learning did good very good
552. 1:39:26deal I'll tell you what I like them taters all right Taylor's tasty it was a sling blade um I'm still going black and white
553. 1:39:38minimalist black and white minimalist BW minimal list all the way
554. 1:39:54great choice I'll populate it [Music] wait however I can't directly edit the
555. 1:40:09template for you what that's horse hockey edit your personal details replace the
556. 1:40:23existing text
557. 1:40:40[Music] um camera allows for a lot of customization um if I ask really nicely and say pretty please could you put my data into the template
558. 1:40:55I know right right bubbles it was so close it was so close to not sucking I truly appreciate your patience and
559. 1:41:06politeness however due to the current limitations of my integration with canva I'm unable to directly well I mean listen here's the deal
560. 1:41:16it it at least did pick us some nice you know professional templates and we've got all of the all of the data here so
561. 1:41:24so even without technical still skills you could sort of copy and paste this stuff into the appropriate sections of
562. 1:41:31the other resumes so it's not totally useless I I you know there you go hopefully that helps I'm a librarian if pretty please works I
563. 1:41:41tried pretty please you see I'm I'm willing to work with these AI things they're just not willing to work with me tonight listen
564. 1:41:52a poor a poor carpenter blames his tools it's all chatty PT's fault I'm really smart people listen listen I know some
565. 1:42:05people in here came in and they said that I was not qualified to teach this class but but let me tell you I I have a certificate
566. 1:42:20I worked with George Santos and I have a certificate and it's a it's a it's a university it's a it's a degree it's got a degree it's got I'm
567. 1:42:34I'm qualified also three AI generated resume building sites okay grammarly LinkedIn Resume Builder and Hemingway editor awesome
568. 1:42:44Firefly thank you yeah I figured there were tools out there I just I just don't know that world at all so yes awesome
569. 1:42:51Emilio's wife unreal incompetence thank you appreciate it
570. 1:43:08whoa they can't make it that easy I know well some of those some of the more dedicated tools I'm sure are actually really good
571. 1:43:16at this because all you need to do is is is basically generate your um your chat GPT with with structured like
572. 1:43:28Json or or HTML and then you can just pop it in a template right so technically it's it's not that hard to
573. 1:43:36do so I would I would imagine that any of the resume building sites um have added AI [ __ ] so this is relatively
574. 1:43:48straightforward I'm asleep can't stay awake good night my favorite people night share bear sleep tight sleep tight
575. 1:43:53good night good night thank you for joining tonight sense of identity because of her capture Emilio yeah we'll never know her name right
576. 1:44:13but he's very kind to me foreign I just almost shot water out my face I you did the best you could I did do
577. 1:44:28the best I could I'm a librarian hopefully that helped a little bit um the the tools that Firefly told you about are probably a much better
578. 1:44:36solution than my my Approach but you know I just do this to entertain myself quite frankly at this point because you
579. 1:44:43know I I am wholly unqualified to this was a night of failures and and you know we celebrate our failures here at the AI
580. 1:44:51learning lab you can make money with Chachi mate I don't know what you're talking about oh oh my Lord Kyle you're an awesome
581. 1:45:06Professor well I profess a lot oh dude
582. 1:45:20[Music] are we glad we can't pin Kyle's singing that's rude that's rude I like it
583. 1:45:36boom boom Kyle you were not incompetent the people who don't wait the people who don't replace your name here with their name
584. 1:45:44are yeah exactly exactly I made assumptions that their tool would not be a janky piece of [ __ ] and they're all
585. 1:45:57janky pieces of [ __ ] right now I've said it before I'll say it again tell us more about that hey gen meeting um okay
586. 1:46:06so they started seven minutes late because their social media manager couldn't get YouTube running [Laughter] so there's that
587. 1:46:19then Wayne the co-founder and CPO which I assume means Chief product officer explained kind of like I explained [ __ ] he was
588. 1:46:33like well you upload a file and then it turns into a video and then and then you pick a language and it makes it in a different language and
589. 1:46:42people are like show us the [ __ ] show us the [ __ ] and then other people are like we already know what it is what is this
590. 1:46:49meeting for it was it was the the crowd was a little hostile um and then um and then he showed it and he said he said uh
591. 1:47:04so so they they launched hn video translate they didn't launch it they they had it in some sort of functional form on August 7th
592. 1:47:14and it wasn't until like I don't know two weeks or so ago that they put it out but like I think it had been up on the
593. 1:47:21website in just kind of a non-announced way for like a month and basically no one used it no one noticed it
594. 1:47:29and then a couple of videos got posted on um on Tick Tock and I think their social media manager posted another one on Tick
595. 1:47:39Tock or or they they boosted one um and then all of a sudden he said in the past week like they're they're
596. 1:47:46totally blowing up on social media and he was gonna he was gonna um translate one of his videos live but the queue was like
597. 1:47:57I can't remember if it was fifty seven thousand or five hundred and seventy thousand there was like a really long
598. 1:48:02queue of videos that had been you know uploaded to the service um he said a couple of really interesting
599. 1:48:12things one of the things that he said that absolutely blew me [ __ ] away was he he was sort of talking about hey Jen
600. 1:48:20is this thing where you can do voice synthesis and you can type in text and it'll make an avatar and do that that's
601. 1:48:26their primary business he kind of said video translates was like a side project of one of their Engineers it was like a throwaway project
602. 1:48:35and he doesn't understand why people think it's such a big deal effectively he didn't say exactly those words but he
603. 1:48:41was like we're a little caught off guard here that so many people want to use this but he said they're working really hard
604. 1:48:49to solve the scalability problem because a lot of people are using it now they have pricing for both 60 bucks a month
605. 1:48:58for like 30 credits and then 179 bucks a month for 60 credits that are up to 20 minutes each and there's an API
606. 1:49:08he said on the call that the API doesn't exist yet so like this is this is a afterthought project that I think is going to become their
607. 1:49:19primary product very quickly and I don't know if they're going to be able to scale it up so so one of the risks right now is
608. 1:49:27um I don't think they I this is sort of catching a tiger by the tail I don't think they know what they have on their hands um
609. 1:49:34some of the other stuff that he said that was really interesting was um that it's going to get much faster soon
610. 1:49:46and it'll probably be real time in not too long like he kind of implied in less than a year I don't know if
611. 1:49:54that's a reality again I don't think they know what they have on their hands here but when this thing's real time holy crap
612. 1:50:08all right let's see I'm trying to think what else there was one other thing they said it was the real time thing oh
613. 1:50:21he knows they need Japanese lots of people are asking for Japanese they've got eight languages right now they're gonna go to
614. 1:50:3020 and then he said a lot after that I saw it blew up on the Asia social media circuit that's interesting Crystal yeah interesting
615. 1:50:42um yeah clear clearly it caught fire somewhere because I I mean I've been talking about a lot but I don't I don't
616. 1:50:46like every time I show someone no one's heard of it um but every time I show people they're like uh holy [ __ ] oh my God
617. 1:50:57um so he said they're gonna they're gonna go to 20 languages pretty quick so I assume Asian Asian languages they've
618. 1:51:03got Hindi in there right now but that's the only thing that's you know sort of Beyond Western Europe and then um
619. 1:51:11he said they will be going to dialects so you'll be able to do English with an American accent with an English accent
620. 1:51:18with an Australian accent so so they're gonna start to have different dialects it was really hard to understand from him
621. 1:51:28wear any any of this stuff was on the road map like I couldn't tell if it was just like oh we could probably do more than 20
622. 1:51:36languages like is he just sort of making it up as he goes or you know again back to this idea like like these things are
623. 1:51:44kind of janky pieces of [ __ ] um this one feels like it was really um you know kind of just tossed together and put out there so um
624. 1:51:56they have a hit on their hands if they can keep delivering it and apparently their Engineers not sleeping trying to
625. 1:52:02scale this thing can you imagine because I'm I'm sure that's it's got to be taking a lot of gpus because they're
626. 1:52:09doing multiple passes right they're doing they're doing the transcription pass they're doing the voice synthesis
627. 1:52:15pass they're doing the translation pass they're doing the the the uh the lip um modeling then they're doing the lip
628. 1:52:28synchronization then they're doing the layering like there's there's I don't know seven or eight or nine operations
629. 1:52:34that have to happen to do one of those translations if you don't know what I'm talking about the uh it's it's this thing called hey Jen and
630. 1:52:42it um this is me speaking Italian which I don't speak that's how we think about stories well that's English break
631. 1:52:49stories down into little atoms right little modules so that's that's the output it's it's remarkable it's got one visual glitch
632. 1:53:05which I think is kind of minor which is if you pass your hand over your face since since they're they're sensing like
633. 1:53:12your lower mask when you pass your hand over your face your mouth is actually in front of your hand it's pretty weird looking
634. 1:53:19more languages to be added yeah I think he said he said up to 20. listen yeah I thought Kyle would never return from the
635. 1:53:25insurance procedure he was locked into it was ugly man I I know right there with you I'm it drained me it drained me
636. 1:53:34it could have been a champ I suppose with a Canadian accent a yeah apparently the the uh the uh French the French accent is a Quebec accent
637. 1:53:46it's not French um so that's one of those things where again I like this was put together by an engineer so
638. 1:53:55I again I don't I don't know that they know what they have on their hands here this is this is a very big deal product
639. 1:54:01and it I I think the result of this product will likely be that two or three other or four companies that have similar technology
640. 1:54:11are going to come out strong with competitors to this so I think that over the next six months we'll probably see three or four of
641. 1:54:20these tools that that make it really really easy to do um translation into many many languages so it's crazy it's absolutely nuts
642. 1:54:32I sent hey Jen my viscom team we work in 20 primary languages in 70 countries very cool what's it called hey Jen yep everyone's
643. 1:54:45giving you that down below Firefly right and business can you imagine how this will help teachers wow I know
644. 1:54:53just anyone really I mean teachers anyone with a like a YouTube channel can now just like enter another Market
645. 1:55:01speak in that language fluently [ __ ] crazy all right listen listen everybody listen we have to have a talk
646. 1:55:10okay come here come here we're leaving close listen live in I'm a little sleepy what time is it 10 21 here in Denver Colorado
647. 1:55:22I'm not sleepy so I'm gonna go I think y'all are wonderful uh I'm glad we did the insurance deep dive except it did make me crankier than
648. 1:55:33[ __ ] because I gotta go deal with that with my actual insurance I don't have as many choices as Emilio's
649. 1:55:39wife did and I don't have to look at a sheet that's nearly that depressing but they're all that depressing I mean actually what was quite
650. 1:55:46remarkable about the seven choices that she had is there really wasn't a ton of difference between them they're all
651. 1:55:54between 9 500 and 11 800. like all of them are going to frustrate the [ __ ] out of her for the next year
652. 1:56:05and then she gets to do it again the following year and they get to reduce even more what they give her
653. 1:56:12welcome to the AI learning lab where we talk about The Bleak reality of capitalism in America in 2023 where where if you can't afford your
654. 1:56:24health insurance to be able to pay for more health insurance so yeah that's why we're here uh it's been Gracie and y'all thank you
655. 1:56:36all for hanging out thanks for tapping the like button so much you all are blessed to be with I swear to God
656. 1:56:41um I'm at work I don't have many choices either good night Kyle and everyone good night great live thank you everyone I
657. 1:56:46know it got a little got a little geeky there but I appreciate it 100 bucks a month for Primary Care no insurance oh interesting
658. 1:56:53um way to tie up the night in a bow thank you very much thanks cabruno Joker Firefly peace out Emilio's wife
659. 1:57:00goodnight goodnight goodnight Stevo thank you Tobias great to see you okay farmer hope you're doing well hope your trip was good
660. 1:57:09peace peace peace Emilio's wife owes me a beer or a whiskey I'll take it I will take it hair growth geek peace out
661. 1:57:17everybody all right good night Winston bye everyone