
AI Learning Lab
10/16/2024 - Saving the AI Industry from Itself: Swarms, Orbs & Other Naming Disasters

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Explore the fascinating world of AI with Kyle Shannon from the AI Learning Lab! This insightful discussion explores the transformative power of artificial intelligence, from its impact on industries and business models to the philosophical implications of tools like ChatGPT. Kyle passionately dissects the rapid evolution of AI, drawing parallels to the early days of the internet and highlighting the crucial role of community in navigating this new frontier. He emphasizes the need for accessible AI, celebrating the democratization of these powerful tools and encouraging everyone to explore their potential. He also humorously critiques the naming conventions of some AI products, advocating for more relatable and less dystopian terminology. Join the conversation and discover how AI is reshaping our world, one "really" at a time.
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Chapters:
00:00:00 Live Stream Intro
00:02:41 Welcoming TikTok Audience
00:03:03 Introducing Champ the Dog
00:05:34 Singing Dog Dilemma
00:07:28 Post-Song Banter
00:08:10 Poorly Behaved Dogs
00:09:36 Creating AI Assistants
00:12:04 Audience Appreciation
00:13:45 Song Discussion
00:14:01 The Coiffure and Eyebrow Extensions
00:15:00 Manscaping Mishap
00:16:14 Audience Q&A
00:16:38 Digital Twins
00:17:24 History of Digital Twins
00:18:04 Creating Digital Twins with Interviews
00:19:46 Pink Banner Issue
00:20:15 Cartoon Animals and Violence
00:20:56 Halo AI Demo
00:22:30 Keyboard Cover Request
00:24:09 More Halo AI Prompts
00:24:50 Chat GPT Prompts for Movies
00:26:22 Vanta Black Background Request
00:27:32 Phone Mount ASMR
00:28:04 Content Moderation Issues
00:28:34 Digital Twin Interaction
00:31:11 Search Speed Frustration
00:33:01 Digital Twin Opinions
00:35:53 Digital Twin Explanation
00:37:02 Master Digital Twin Creation
00:38:42 Excel as Data Source
00:39:20 Making a Video
00:40:34 Recording the Live Stream
00:41:10 Interview Questions
00:43:48 Refining Interview Questions
00:46:07 Reducing Question Sections
00:48:26 Editable Question List
00:52:20 Adobe Max and AI
00:53:47 Digital Twin Knowledge
00:55:28 Mighty Networks Community Update
01:01:02 The Importance of Community
01:04:04 The Origin of the AI Salon
01:09:13 The Impact of Chat GPT
01:11:05 Fun Fact About Chat GPT
01:12:15 The Future of AI
01:14:02 Joy Pie's Video
01:15:12 Generational Divide
01:19:21 Growing Up with Monolithic Media
01:21:56 Living in a Post-Sci-Fi World
01:23:04 The Influence of Shared Media
01:24:43 Attraction Industries
01:25:25 Hands Across America and Up With People
01:26:11 Bob Dylan and We Are the World
01:27:17 Inside Llewyn Davis
01:29:02 The Uniqueness of Certain Artists
01:31:04 Shawn of the Dead Anniversary
01:32:25 Aging and Irrelevant References
01:33:46 More Topics from Brandon
01:34:10 Machines of Loving Grace
01:36:03 Open AI's Swarm
01:37:17 Renaming Swarm
01:39:01 AI Branding Company
01:41:05 AI as Probability vs. Magic
01:43:05 The Orb
01:44:33 The Missing Pink Bow
01:46:50 Driving and TikToks
01:48:46 Yelling About Swarms Again
01:50:21 The "Really" Guy
01:52:58 Omni Multimodal One 40
01:53:40 GP Think
01:57:24 Hump Day and Hating Jobs
01:59:03 Optimism About AI
02:01:12 Companies and AI Adoption
02:03:33 Business Model Threats
02:05:20 Kodak and the Digital Camera
02:05:26 Crystal Cigar Ashtrays
02:06:11 Railroads and Kodak's Missed Opportunity
02:06:40 Pushing AI to the Max
02:07:20 Mark Andreessen's Agent Bots
02:08:27 Housekeeping and Goodbyes
Chapters
0:00Live Stream Intro2:41Welcoming TikTok Audience3:03Introducing Champ the Dog5:34Singing Dog Dilemma7:28Post-Song Banter8:10Poorly Behaved Dogs9:36Creating AI Assistants12:04Audience Appreciation13:45Song Discussion14:01The Coiffure and Eyebrow Extensions15:00Manscaping Mishap16:14Audience Q&A16:38Digital Twins17:24History of Digital Twins18:04Creating Digital Twins with Interviews19:46Pink Banner Issue20:15Cartoon Animals and Violence20:56Halo AI Demo22:30Keyboard Cover Request24:09More Halo AI Prompts24:50Chat GPT Prompts for Movies26:22Vanta Black Background Request27:32Phone Mount ASMR28:04Content Moderation Issues28:34Digital Twin Interaction31:11Search Speed Frustration33:01Digital Twin Opinions35:53Digital Twin Explanation37:02Master Digital Twin Creation38:42Excel as Data Source39:20Making a Video40:34Recording the Live Stream41:10Interview Questions43:48Refining Interview Questions46:07Reducing Question Sections48:26Editable Question List52:20Adobe Max and AI53:47Digital Twin Knowledge55:28Mighty Networks Community Update1:01:02The Importance of Community1:04:04The Origin of the AI Salon1:09:13The Impact of Chat GPT1:11:05Fun Fact About Chat GPT1:12:15The Future of AI1:14:02Joy Pie's Video1:15:12Generational Divide1:19:21Growing Up with Monolithic Media1:21:56Living in a Post-Sci-Fi World1:23:04The Influence of Shared Media1:24:43Attraction Industries1:25:25Hands Across America and Up With People1:26:11Bob Dylan and We Are the World1:27:17Inside Llewyn Davis1:29:02The Uniqueness of Certain Artists1:31:04Shawn of the Dead Anniversary1:32:25Aging and Irrelevant References1:33:46More Topics from Brandon1:34:10Machines of Loving Grace1:36:03Open AI's Swarm1:37:17Renaming Swarm1:39:01AI Branding Company1:41:05AI as Probability vs. Magic1:43:05The Orb1:44:33The Missing Pink Bow1:46:50Driving and TikToks1:48:46Yelling About Swarms Again1:50:21The "Really" Guy1:52:58Omni Multimodal One 401:53:40GP Think1:57:24Hump Day and Hating Jobs1:59:03Optimism About AI2:01:12Companies and AI Adoption2:03:33Business Model Threats2:05:20Kodak and the Digital Camera2:05:26Crystal Cigar Ashtrays2:06:11Railroads and Kodak's Missed Opportunity2:06:40Pushing AI to the Max2:07:20Mark Andreessen's Agent Bots2:08:27Housekeeping and Goodbyes
Transcript
0:02 [Music] 0:10 [Music] 0:18 [Music] 0:22 [ __ ] wait hang on 0:29 [Music] 0:34 [Music] 0:54 wo w 1:02 [Music] 1:28 w w 1:32 [Music] 1:37 really breaks my 1:39 heart see dear old 1:42 friend down to that out place 1:47 again do you know the 1:50 sound of a closing 1:53 door have you heard that sound somewhere 1:57 before 1:58 [Music] 2:00 do you wonder if she knows you 2:04 [Music] 2:22 any you can something in a hurricane 2:27 [Music] 2:31 only if you're standing 2:34 [Music] 2:41 in good evening good people of the Tik 2:44 Tock second live stream tonight looks 2:48 like we got some new people in here 2:50 welcome welcome welcome my name is Kyle 2:52 Shannon the the dog on lead vocals his 2:55 name is Champ 3:03 just to set expectations Champ's never 3:05 really been a champion of 3:07 anything he is at best the recipient of 3:11 a part participation 3:13 [Music] 3:25 certificate oh champ is a fine fine dog 3:30 [Music] 3:46 Town yeah wonder when things are going 3:49 to 3:52 change dream mys 4:02 get my nerve up but my past is pulling 4:06 me 4:07 [Music] 4:09 down wonder how 4:11 [Music] 4:12 long black 4:14 she 4:16 [Music] 4:20 around somebody told me once before he 4:23 said you can never go home 4:26 again won you 4:28 leave s things to Ste me away yeah from 4:34 the truth of who I am and what I 4:37 believe so I thanked him for his two 4:39 cents with a 4:41 handshake and some sympathy yeah backed 4:46 up my blue 4:47 jeans and headed for this big 4:52 price of my 4:54 [Applause] 4:57 freom black sheep 5:00 to the black sheep of the 5:04 [Music] 5:08 family oh that means so very much to 5:12 me 5:14 byebye bless she to my friends and my 5:20 [Music] 5:23 family going set my 5:28 soul set it free 5:30 [Music] 5:34 so it may seem Charming to have a 5:37 singing dog oh and it is it's 5:40 fantastic but you ever thought about me 5:44 you ever thought maybe just Kyle just 5:46 wants to sing a song once without 5:49 accompaniment loud howling screeching 5:53 semi untune 5:55 accompaniment no you just want the dog 5:58 yeah I figured 6:03 [Music] 6:19 10,000 words swarm around my head 10 6:23 million more in books written beneath my 6:26 bed 6:31 and I wrote or R them all when searching 6:34 in the swamps still can't find how to 6:37 hold my 6:37 [Music] 6:41 hands and I know you need me in the over 6:46 I am stuck in here all 6:49 [Music] 6:52 paralyzed for months I got myself in R 6:56 too much time spending mirrors framed in 6:59 yellow wall 7:00 [Music] 7:05 it it a it like people I'm no different 7:10 like talk on things we don't know 7:20 [Music] 7:22 [Applause] 7:24 [Music] 7:26 [Laughter] 7:28 about that's that dog Source Camp 7:31 recognizes the how welcome welcome 7:34 welcome 7:37 everybody glad to have you here tonight 7:40 we're going to talk about 7:42 [Laughter] 7:51 stuff my cat was almost 7:54 asleep yeah champ was a little 7:56 rambunctious tonight wasn't 7:58 he he's been on it Kyle you're my hero 8:02 thank you Mr 8:03 [Laughter] 8:03 [Music] 8:06 it certainly not your dog training hero 8:10 I learned very early in life that I'm 8:12 always going to have poorly behaved dogs 8:14 because when you have poorly behave dogs 8:16 it's not the dog's fault 8:21 [Music] 8:50 [Applause] 8:52 see in order to have well- behaved dogs 8:55 you have to have this is a technical 8:58 term what are called 9:01 boundaries this is 9:04 where my family and 9:09 dogs have uh We've made an executive 9:13 decision that the dogs will walk all 9:15 over us 9:18 [Music] 9:29 [Applause] 9:32 [Music] 9:36 all right I really want to purchase a 9:39 chat GPT and create wait I really want 9:42 to purchase chat GPT and create an 9:47 assistant you mean an 9:51 agent you could you could probably 9:53 create 9:55 a can't you create custom gpts without a 9:59 subscri sction or maybe you need a 10:00 subscription I think you need a need a 10:02 subscription to make them you mean a 10:04 custom 10:12 GPT Brandon custom GPT is paid 10:17 only you can go to PO you can make a 10:19 poot po.com poe.com and you can use uh 10:25 open AI models oh no you can't use open 10:27 AI models the good ones unless you're 10:30 paid there but you can make chat Bots at 10:33 po so if you mean by assist by assistant 10:36 you mean chatbot you can do that at PO 10:37 for 10:38 free I just want to create my AI 10:42 assistant I don't know what that means 10:44 though you mean like one that takes take 10:46 a takes action on your behalf the tools 10:48 aren't really there for that open AI 10:50 just released swarms which is some sort 10:53 of a gentic something or other I haven't 10:55 looked deeply enough into it yet to know 10:57 what that is but I would say give 11:00 3 to 6 months and it'll be relatively 11:03 trivial to create an assistant is my is 11:05 my guess right now it's still requires 11:08 development if you're a developer you 11:09 could probably do one right 11:13 now Brent Peterson is doing a lot of 11:15 that stuff right now but that's all 11:17 that's all with 11:18 coding you should all go to GPT and ask 11:21 what's 11:22 something about me you may not know if 11:25 you have memory turned on in chat GPT 11:27 you can ask it that question 11:30 tell me something about me I may not 11:32 know it does a pretty good 11:36 job but your memory has to be turned on 11:38 enabled 11:44 [Music] 12:04 Kyle 10,000 likes before before 10 12:06 minutes wow you guys are 12:08 [Music] 12:10 nuts girl you're 12:14 looking found 12:19 tonight never fellas got you in here 12:26 sides what you do it with a cloud like 12:31 [Music] 12:33 me sure one of life's 12:37 little 12:39 mystery so 12:41 tonight I'll 12:44 ask the stars 12:49 above how did I ever win your 12:56 love what did I do 12:59 [Music] 13:02 what did I 13:04 say to turn your angel 13:08 ass my 13:14 way I'm the guy that never learned 13:22 dance never even wait never 13:27 even got one 13:30 Second 13:32 Glance cross a crowded room that was 13:36 close 13:40 enough I could look but I 13:43 could never 13:45 touch that's a beautiful song that is a 13:48 beautiful song not the way I sung it but 13:50 you 13:51 know well John hayatt Little John Hyatt 13:54 in the 13:55 house all right let's do what we got to 13:58 do with the hair let's get that let's 14:00 get that straightened 14:01 out you like the Qua we can we sell 14:05 these we sell these on the Tik Tock shop 14:07 along with Madagascar vanilla and uh 14:11 countertop nugget ice makers by the way 14:14 the eyebrow trimming kit comes with the 14:17 quaf this the quaf it's just it's like 14:20 the double-sided tape you put you know 14:23 when you put like the phone holder on 14:24 your dashboard that sticky tape that's 14:26 what goes underneath the uh the 14:29 quadruple to 14:30 pay and then you get the uh the eyebrow 14:34 extension kit these are not like I don't 14:37 I wouldn't have eyebrows this bushy I I 14:39 actually these are this is a 14:42 weave 14:44 so you just like this kind of beauty it 14:47 doesn't grow on trees people this is 14:49 manufactured this is a whole 14:55 situation what 15:00 oh this is the AI 15:02 Channel I thought this was the men the 15:04 manscaping this is not the manscaping 15:07 Channel okay all right um sorry about 15:10 that sorry about that I I thought my 15:13 assistant Marge 15:16 um she she spun I don't know how to use 15:19 Tik Tok and she um she spun up the 15:22 different you if you're into manscaping 15:26 I there's a whole I do a whole um you 15:28 know how to look responsible in a manini 15:31 I've got a workshop on that so check 15:33 that out on my other 15:45 channel I've got the manscaping Channel 15:47 I've got the uh old man ASMR 15:51 Channel you know sounds like that it's 15:54 nice uh I'll do snoring I do I do uh 15:57 realistic snoring 16:00 um clearing my throat of course is a 16:02 classic that's a favorite that's a fan 16:09 favorite 16:11 uhhuh uhhuh 16:14 uhhuh all right what do you want to talk 16:16 about we lost most of the 16:19 audience tick Tik Tock Tik Tock had 130 16:23 people in here and they're all like oh 16:24 my God they ran out so it's back to us 16:29 so we can do whatever you 16:31 want old man 16:33 ASMR Robert Rossy liked that 16:38 one Jason wanted to know how to bring 16:41 multiple digital twins into one 16:43 conversation okay there's two ways to do 16:46 that we can talk about that so I was on 16:48 a I was on Ann Murphy has a podcast 16:51 called the 16:53 empowered fundraiser 16:56 show I am not a 17:00 fundraiser nor am I empowered but she 17:03 had a laps in judgment and had me on her 17:06 show um and we had a really good talk 17:08 good talk today she wanted me to talk 17:10 about digital Twins and we talked about 17:12 all sorts of stuff what's going on with 17:14 AI what's what you know what are these 17:16 es and flows how do you how do you deal 17:19 with this [ __ ] we talked a lot about 17:21 that and then we talked a little bit 17:22 about digital 17:24 Twins and so to catch up on digital 17:27 twins if you don't know that term 17:30 the history of it is is really from the 17:32 digital simulation world like a digital 17:34 twin you might have a digital twin of a 17:37 I don't know of a control panel for you 17:40 know a nuclear power plant and you've 17:42 got all the dials and you can turn them 17:43 and it simulates it's a digital twin of 17:47 what you would do if you were in the in 17:49 the control center 17:51 um and you can also make them of people 17:55 and there's there's kind of an infinite 17:57 number of ways to do that but a way that 17:59 that I stumbled upon with with a group 18:02 that I work with called content 18:04 Evolution was we basically start with a 18:09 structured interview so we have chat GPT 18:12 help us come up with an interview like 18:14 if I were going to inter interview 18:16 someone to really understand who they 18:17 were and you know what their background 18:19 is and what they've done professionally 18:21 and what they've done personally and um 18:24 you know how they solve problems and how 18:26 they face adversity all that chat GPT 18:29 will come up with the questions for you 18:30 it's really quite good at it and then 18:32 what we discovered 18:34 is um if you type out the answers to 18:37 that question set the digital twins suck 18:41 they don't they're not very good 18:43 but if you record someone ideally you 18:48 have someone else do the interview on 18:50 video and then take the transcript of 18:53 that you could also do it in audio the 18:54 reason we did it in video is because we 18:57 figure at some point we'll be able to 18:58 take the video 19:00 and use that as the basis for a visual 19:03 digital twin this is so this is just a 19:04 GPT digital twin but you record someone 19:08 answering the questions as if they're 19:10 talking you know like words to another 19:16 person the digital twins get really good 19:19 they get really powerful and they they 19:21 kind of they tend to talk like The 19:22 person talks and um they're they're 19:25 pretty good and then what I talked about 19:28 is we take those into individual digital 19:30 Twins and we put them together into a 19:33 master digital twin that was like a 19:35 little community of digital twins that 19:36 you could then interact with it's pretty 19:38 slick and so the question is can we can 19:41 we do that tonight there's a couple of 19:42 ways to do it so I will I will walk you 19:45 through 19:46 that beauty beauty beauty does anyone 19:50 have their pink Banner popping up on 19:53 their screen for a universe make it stop 19:56 oh does anyone else have that pink 19:58 Banner 20:00 I don't have any pink 20:04 banners it's is it Tik Tok just 20:06 marketing [ __ ] hello regulars from Becky 20:10 Rue what's happening 20:14 [Music] 20:15 Becky I need to make cartoon 20:19 animals violence like cats eating a 20:24 mouse uh 20:29 I don't 20:31 know I wonder if I still have access to 20:34 Halo or whatever the hell it's called is 20:37 this 20:39 it continuous 20:42 Kyle 20:45 reload 20:48 explore where's my oh 20:52 mine oh I did some videos today hang on 20:55 look at 20:56 this so this is this Halo 21:03 that's pretty damn 21:07 good look at that rack 21:10 Focus you start out with the candle and 21:12 focus and the background blurry and then 21:15 watch 21:16 this that's like real damn 21:19 cinematography by the way how I did 21:21 these the The Prompt for these I went to 21:24 chat GPT and I said write me 20 prompts 21:27 for for a single shot in a movie and 21:30 give it 21:31 um like uh like describe the style that 21:36 you wanted in as well as the the details 21:38 of 21:41 it this prompt was Whispers In The 21:45 Mirror wa let's see let's see how good 21:47 her face is does that still look like 21:50 her it's not 21:53 bad looks a little different but 21:56 passable 22:02 fishe lens close-up shots a person 22:05 stares into a fogged up bathroom mirror 22:08 the camera tight on their trembling face 22:11 as the fog clears their reflection 22:13 begins to emerge it didn't quite do the 22:15 prompt it's not 22:18 bad what's this 22:24 one that's 22:28 trippy that's pretty trippy her little 22:30 head movement there is weird keyboard 22:33 cover please yes ma'am ma'am yes ma'am 22:36 Amelia's wife is the uh she is the 22:39 community glare representative she's 22:42 trying to prevent glare for all 22:44 community members of the AI learning 22:46 lab she's doing her job quite well look 22:50 at her little head kick 22:54 KCK Kyle I just sent you a rose that's 22:57 one cent I'd like for you to acknowledge 22:59 this please thank you Becky thank you 23:01 for the 23:04 Becky that's very nice I do appreciate 23:07 that every every penny 23:10 counts 23:12 um so let's see let's see I think I 23:14 still have access to this so you get if 23:17 you sign up for this by the way this is 23:19 h h a i 23:21 l uo 23:25 Halo aiide 23:29 and if you sign up you get 3 days for 23:31 free this is in my opinion and in Brent 23:35 Brent Peterson's 23:37 opinion 23:39 um closer to sunno well sunno never 23:43 launched right sunno from open AI that 23:45 they demonstrated you know where they 23:46 talked to be about it being like a world 23:48 simulation model uh if not they did um 23:53 but then we never got to play with it 23:55 this thing seems like that where it's 23:57 really good at panning around a space 24:00 without the all the buildings or people 24:03 around the main subject 24:05 distorting okay so we're going to 24:09 do 24:15 cartoon inside a house 24:20 where a cat catches a mouse and bites 24:23 its head off 24:35 we'll 24:38 see all right we'll see if it's going to 24:41 [Laughter] 24:44 render that was that was that was a you 24:48 know was a graphic description one job 24:51 in 24:52 Q let me go over to my chat GPT I'll 24:55 I'll grab some more of these yeah so 24:57 here's 24:59 the robbery of the stubborn 25:09 [Applause] 25:12 door this is Charlie Chaplain 25:19 es the balloon 25:24 negotiation wait let me move where am I 25:28 move this tab over next to my movie Tab 25:31 and then I won't be so 25:39 lost the pasta perfectionist the 25:42 unhelpful map that sounds 25:45 good all right 25:55 copy all right there's some movies being 25:57 made all right right I need to go work 26:00 for open AI to bug Sam and tell him I 26:02 want my AI agents now I know Jason hey 26:05 do me a favor when you get a job the 26:07 first thing I want you to ask for when 26:08 you get to Sam's office is the ability 26:11 to search our prompt history it's been 26:13 two years 26:22 Sam I was wrong Banner at 26:24 top all right I suppose you all are 26:27 speaking to yourself now Runway is 26:30 really good 26:34 yep Dora 26:40 daora Kyle can this be the first tick 26:43 tocker with a vanta black chat 26:45 background that would actually be nice 26:47 if anybody wants to buy me a vanta black 26:50 uh thing of paint I'll spray paint the 26:53 uh I'll spray paint my my paper here 26:56 with vanta black so just s send me a uh 27:01 I assume that those bottles of what's it 27:04 called it's called Uh like 27:06 V3 V3 vanta black spray paint I assume 27:10 it's like 30 27:12 bucks but if someone wants to send me 27:14 some I I'll make a keyboard cover out of 27:17 vanta black I could also get like actual 27:20 black you know Fabric or velvet or 27:23 something but you know that would be 27:25 like actual production values and we we 27:27 don't want those around 27:32 Here If You Could Only See My Little My 27:36 my duct taped uh phone holder that the 27:40 duct tape failed and I put clear tape on 27:43 it packing 27:45 tape so I can I can give you if you want 27:47 some ASMR of my my phone mount here you 27:52 go oh yeah oh 27:56 M oh yeah you're like that tape 28:00 [Laughter] 28:04 M what is this channel what is he 28:08 doing oh it it ate one of the 28:13 uh it ate one of 28:16 the I don't think it did the mouse 28:20 thing the the mouse thing just 28:22 disappeared there were four videos 28:24 Runing now there's only three I think it 28:26 ate the I think it was too violent it 28:28 went 28:29 away 28:31 sorry that's pretty funny and these are 28:34 just in a in a queue um okay let's go 28:36 over to chat GPT for a second 28:50 so okay there's AI futures 29:09 okay let me flip over I'm going to flip 29:11 over to my 29:14 team team 29:18 account and I should have okay yeah here 29:20 we go 29:26 okay you got access this the canvas yeah 29:31 okay 29:33 um so if I want to go to my digital 29:36 twins so here's my digital 29:38 twin C profile Kyle Shannon and if you 29:41 want to go play with this you can go to 29:42 the the GPT Store and search for this 29:46 and so I can say 29:49 um find a recent news story about Sam 29:56 Altman 30:00 and tell me what you 30:05 think of that 30:12 article all right so it says searching 30:14 my 30:15 knowledge it should searching the 30:20 web searching Sam okay recently Sam 30:23 Alman returned as CEO of open AI that 30:27 okay wait 30:32 that's a very old story 30:35 plea very old Story please search the 30:39 internet and find something from this 30:41 past 30:46 week searching the web 31:07 I don't know why it's taking so long to 31:09 search the 31:11 web we're so used to everything being 31:14 done in a second we're spoiled we're 31:21 spoiled what do you mean it wasn't done 31:23 in 1.2 seconds this is 31:26 ridiculous let me restart hang on hold 31:28 on people search board search stopped oh 31:32 try 31:38 [Laughter] 31:42 again searching the 31:45 web all right searching for Sam mman 31:48 2024 news this week Sam alman's nuclear 31:51 energy company Okio okay this I haven't 31:53 heard from okay great this week samman's 31:57 nuclear energy energy coming okay uh 32:00 refecting okay 32:02 um 32:04 uh do you 32:08 think this is 32:10 significant and 32:12 why okay so I am in theory asking 32:18 myself have you been the in have you 32:21 seen the instruction set for search it's 32:23 pretty limited I have not 32:28 yes this development is quite 32:30 significant as the tech industry 32:31 particularly companies like Google 32:33 increasingly relies on AI their energy 32:35 needs are skyrocketing nuclear power 32:37 particularly those small modular react 32:40 reactors smrs offers a clean reliable 32:43 source of energy Sam alman's involvement 32:46 in OKO OKO or Okio OKO um a leading SMR 32:51 company places him at the Forefront of 32:53 the shift it not only reinforces nuclear 32:56 pow's 32:57 role um all right I guess that's what I 32:59 would say 33:01 um uh 33:03 what does this 33:07 have to do 33:10 with daytoday AI for regular 33:23 people for most people the shift will 33:26 not directly impact their life however 33:29 it's significant for future as AI tools 33:31 like chat GPT become more widespread 33:33 Tech infrastructure requires energy all 33:36 right so I'm going to so a way you can 33:40 do this so I'm in my Kyle Shannon 33:42 digital twin I can now call up so if I 33:44 hit the at Key I can pull up other gpts 33:49 so I've got 33:52 Andrea uh let's see 33:55 at Andrea 33:59 oh she's not coming up for some reason 34:01 that's 34:02 weird 34:03 at let's see at 34:06 CE okay so here's some here's some CE 34:09 profiles so here's Andrea Andrea 34:12 Goldberg and so I'm going to say um what 34:16 do you think of this 34:22 article and then she's going to give me 34:24 her 34:27 opinion the recent 34:29 article uh uh 34:32 uh let's see the development also un 34:35 scores the 34:36 trend 34:38 um and then I can also go wait something 34:42 went wrong the issue persists please 34:43 contact Our Help Center all right 34:45 whatever um 34:48 at and then I'm going to go grab let's 34:51 see we'll go 34:56 atce come on at 35:00 CE let's see here's Mike Maguire Mike 35:03 Maguire used to be a Gartner analyst um 35:06 do you agree with 35:11 Kyle and 35:16 Andrea explain your 35:20 reason for each 35:32 M both Kyle and Andrea offer insightful 35:35 perspectives Kyle's perspective he 35:37 highlights this so so I've got like 35:41 these three people now interacting with 35:43 one another so one way to do this is 35:45 just ad hoc you've got access to 35:46 different digital Twins and then with 35:49 the at symbol you can call them into a 35:51 chat that's one way to do it the other 35:53 way we did it so again just to explain 35:57 what a digital twin 35:59 is we created a a structured 36:03 questionnaire that the person that we 36:05 making the digital twin of answered and 36:07 and so it was like educational 36:10 background business background you know 36:12 family 36:13 background I think we had some health 36:15 stuff in there we had how do you solve 36:17 problem stuff in there we had cultural 36:19 stuff like you know what's a piece of 36:21 art that made a difference in your life 36:23 who's a person that made a difference in 36:24 your life and what did they do things 36:26 like that so it's a whole bunch of 36:29 questions and how we created that is we 36:31 went to chat jpt and we said help us 36:34 craft a structured set of questions that 36:37 when someone answers them it will reveal 36:40 who they are essentially right their 36:42 worldview things like that and then we 36:45 edited those 36:47 but like what I what I learned is rather 36:49 than just giving you that set of 36:50 questions just know that that's the the 36:53 thing because you can do different sets 36:55 of questions for different scenarios 36:58 so learn to do the learn to do the thing 37:02 um so we made all these individual gpts 37:05 but then we wanted to put them into one 37:07 master GPT now one of the constraints of 37:11 custom gpts is that you can only upload 37:14 20 37:15 files to zero so at the point at which 37:19 we exceeded 20 people we couldn't do it 37:23 anymore like we couldn't add any more 37:25 people cuz we basically took a 37:27 transcript from each person and put them 37:30 into the GPT and once we hit 20 we were 37:33 done so what we did was we created a 37:36 Google spreadsheet that had all their 37:39 metadata like their you know website 37:42 their LinkedIn profile their phone 37:43 number their email all that stuff and 37:46 then a field for their entire transcript 37:49 so we made a single CSV file 37:52 effectively that is the source of Truth 37:55 for all of the different members of 37:57 content of ution I think we're up to 28 37:59 now or 30 and so we so that that CSV 38:03 then 38:04 becomes the knowledge for that larger 38:09 GPT um and it's really cool because you 38:12 can go in and you can just say you know 38:14 write an article from content Evolution 38:17 and it basically writes it from the 38:19 point of view of these 30 people and 38:21 then it identifies which are the three 38:24 that are most qualified to comment on 38:27 this AR article and then it produces 38:30 quotes from the three most relevant 38:32 people pretty slick so I don't know if 38:35 that answers your question I mean I know 38:36 that answers your question but it I feel 38:39 like it was a shitty answer so anyway 38:42 have you seen the instruction set for 38:44 search pretty limited 38:46 okay of course the answer is Excel yeah 38:49 I mean you know until further not I mean 38:52 quite honestly um daily crunch the we 38:55 wouldn't need to 38:58 like chat GPT is so good at at eating 39:02 and digesting unstructured data that we 39:05 could have just pasted all that [ __ ] 39:07 into a Word document that's we had all 39:09 the metadata for these things in a Word 39:11 document the problem was it made it 39:13 really hard to edit so we just threw it 39:16 into an Excel sheet and now it's in 39:18 there 39:20 so um this would make a great video Yeah 39:26 it that feels like 39:30 work I don't see here's the thing with 39:33 ADHD once you build [ __ ] like making a 39:36 video of it it's like H but I already 39:38 built it now I don't want to make a 39:40 video of it I'm whiny I've got 39:44 diverticulitis we're dug and Wendy 39:47 Wier um I'd love it if I could put the 39:50 clip of that description into the salon 39:54 you can do that as soon as I do this 40:00 whatever do this means um as soon as I 40:05 post this up to YouTube feel free to 40:07 grab it so just today's the October 16th 40:11 so just note down October 16th and as 40:13 soon as you see October 16th up on the 40:17 um up on the YouTube channel you can 40:19 feel free to go grab it and chop it up 40:20 if you want 40:24 um I'm I'm like two weeks behind right 40:27 now on that 40:28 so but I will do that for 40:34 you oh there's also it's possible some 40:36 people are recording this right now cuz 40:38 I know tck will sometimes record these 40:40 things and and he'll um he'll wait till 40:44 I put on a pink bow and then he'll just 40:46 take the recording of me looking like an 40:48 idiot and he puts that out on the 40:50 internet so so you can do that too if 40:52 you want reach reach out to one of the 40:55 Irregulars that is uh pirating my 40:57 content for for entertainment 41:01 [Laughter] 41:10 value all right let's 41:13 see Brandon gave me a very nice list of 41:16 [ __ ] that we could talk about let's go 41:19 through it shall we can you talk about 41:21 the 41:23 questions in the interview yeah so so 41:26 here let's just go we we'll go make a 41:29 set of 41:31 questions because it's it sounds more it 41:35 sounds more um complicated than it 41:39 is 41:41 because if if you've not written like 41:45 you know surveys and questionnaires and 41:49 and you know things like that then this 41:51 can be really intimidating but 41:53 here's here's the good 41:55 news we now live in a a world where you 41:58 don't need to know [ __ ] anymore you 42:00 don't need to be an anthropologist or a 42:02 sociologist or a [ __ ] I don't know 42:06 Survey Monkey PhD holder um you can just 42:11 go to chat GPT and ask it [ __ ] so here's 42:13 what we're going to do 42:19 okay I'm creating a digital twin based 42:24 on the transcript of an interview 42:31 where the questions are structured and 42:35 designed to 42:39 capture as much about the person being 42:42 interviewed as 42:45 possible I want to 42:52 capture educational background 42:54 professional background 42:58 how the person solves problems the world 43:01 viiew things that might have inspired 43:03 them how 43:06 they react to adversity how they react 43:09 to 43:10 success and any other thing that you 43:13 think might be relevant period group the 43:17 questions in categories to make them 43:19 easier 43:20 to 43:23 manage and sort them in order that 43:30 make most intuitive sense for the 43:32 interviewee to answer for example start 43:35 with 43:36 name and location Etc 43:48 period memory updated here's a structure 43:50 okay personal information and background 43:52 what's your full name where you 43:53 currently 43:54 located um 43:57 where' you grow up can you briefly 43:59 describe your family background 44:00 educational background professional 44:02 background problem solving and 44:04 decision-making how do you typically 44:05 approach uh solving problems whether 44:07 professional or personal uh okay so 44:11 let's let's let these keep 44:24 going okay these questions are fine but 44:26 they're okay these questions are fine 44:29 but they're a little predictable and 44:31 generic period I want you to act like a 44:35 master survey 44:37 writer comma and cultural 44:40 anthropologists and I want you to 44:43 ask significantly more interesting and 44:47 revealing questions for 44:50 example include a question about a piece 44:53 of art that changed someone's life and 44:56 questions 45:01 with a similar creative approach period 45:04 the idea here is that by answering these 45:07 questions we'll get as full a picture as 45:10 possible of who this person 45:14 is the other reason we did this like 45:18 this was we we wanted to be able to we 45:21 wanted to be able to ask all of the 45:23 people we made digital twins for the 45:25 same set of questions 45:27 we 45:28 wanted it to capture you know kind of 45:31 the essence of who they were like not 45:33 put as much emphasis on here's the [ __ ] 45:36 I did in my life put more emphasis on 45:39 like who are they so let's see if your 45:41 life were a novel what would the opening 45:42 scene look like that's good who or what 45:45 shaped you to see the way the world 45:47 before you were even aware of it can you 45:49 think of a moment in your childhood 45:51 looking back that feels like a defining 45:53 moment in who you became as an adult 45:55 like those are three really good 45:56 questions 45:58 right and so so this is this is how we 46:00 did it and now there's way too many 46:02 right there's there's 12 sections of 46:04 three questions each that's 36 questions 46:07 so let's go okay these are much better 46:10 but right now you have 12 sections with 46:13 three questions each why don't we reduce 46:16 this 46:19 to seven sections with three questions 46:22 each 46:30 Kylie wants you to put your convo in the 46:33 salon 46:35 please what do you mean my cono you mean 46:38 the the 46:40 uh the transcript of 46:43 my of my digital twin I I I don't I 46:47 don't want to do it because the the 46:49 specific question set we did for Content 46:51 evolution is proprietary to content 46:53 Evolution there's there's too many other 46:55 people involved but this is exactly how 46:56 we did it 47:02 so um sorry for being away been dealing 47:05 with medical issues oh I'm sorry jay 47:07 Hamilton but welcome back I hope you're 47:09 I hope you're healing well or dealing 47:11 well whatever the case may be I'd be 47:13 curious what Claude Opus would come up 47:15 with exactly listen that's the thing 47:18 with all these things um you know go oh 47:20 you know what might be interesting is to 47:22 have 01 do 47:24 it all right so now we've got 21 47:26 Questions so here's your 20 questions 47:28 right education and was there a class or 47:31 subject in school that felt like a 47:33 revelation to you something that made 47:35 you see the world in a completely 47:36 different way like that's a good one for 47:38 me it was Theater history of all things 47:41 and not because I love Theater history I 47:42 [ __ ] hated history but I had a 47:44 teacher that totally [ __ ] brought it 47:46 to 47:47 life what skill or piece of knowledge 47:50 you've taught yourself outside of formal 47:53 education that you now consider crucial 47:55 to who you are these are great 47:58 questions they're great questions and 48:01 and you know like why does it write such 48:02 great great questions because all of the 48:06 structured interviews that have ever 48:08 been put on the Internet by all of the 48:10 people that got phds and writing these 48:12 kind of questions they're all in the 48:14 [ __ ] llm they're all just in 48:18 there so if you can basically tell it 48:22 make me good [ __ ] it will make you good 48:24 [ __ ] now I'll show you another cool 48:26 thing so I'm in GPT 40 right so this 48:29 list now is not editable and I'm like oh 48:31 I want to edit that or I want to edit 48:32 that I can now flip over to gp4 with 48:36 canvas if you don't know what this is 48:38 it's going to make an editable thing so 48:39 I'm going to say do me a favor 48:43 canvas if you don't know what this is 48:45 it's going to make an editable thing so 48:46 I'm going to say do me a favor with 48:50 canvas if you don't know what this is 48:52 it's going to make an editable thing so 48:53 I'm going to say do me a favor with 48:56 canvas 48:58 if you don't know what this is it's 48:59 going to make an editable thing so I'm 49:00 going to say do me a favor 49:22 and sorry I just got an Amber Alert 49:27 um okay do me a favor and pop this do me 49:33 a favor and pop this list of questions 49:35 into the 49:41 canvas and so now my set of questions is 49:45 editable and so I can go in and I could 49:47 say let's 49:52 see let's grab this 49:55 section and then I say ask GPT I'm going 49:58 to 49:59 say 50:01 um this section is currently 50:04 missing this section is currently 50:08 missing basic information 50:12 like name 50:17 profession Etc 50:20 period we should also add a new 50:23 section for professional background 50:36 all 50:38 right so now we've got basic 50:41 information there's our little early 50:43 stuff education professional background 50:46 can you describe your career Journey so 50:48 far how did you get started major 50:49 transitions Etc what's been the most 50:51 rewarding project or work experience 50:53 you've had have you had any significant 50:56 mentor or influencers yeah so this is 50:58 quite good so this is essentially it 51:01 right so now it's a nine nine questions 51:03 so 51:04 that's 9 * 3 is 27 27 51:08 questions so that's like a half hour 51:11 interview and what you do is you just 51:14 you know P put that [ __ ] up and ideally 51:17 you have someone you record this have 51:19 someone record you or do do like a zoom 51:21 call with someone you know where they 51:23 can watch you answering the questions 51:25 and if you try to weasle out of a 51:27 answering a question they can like slack 51:29 you or they can even say it it doesn't 51:31 matter if there's extra [ __ ] in your 51:32 interview they can just say hey can you 51:34 dig deeper on that you'll be like oh 51:37 yeah sure well you know you know what 51:41 whatever dig deeper all right make 51:44 sense 51:46 good we got it I got a shutdown for 51:50 violating terms of service with 51:52 pi only once and it was a long time ago 51:55 huh that's interesting 52:02 [Music] 52:14 all 52:16 right let's go 52:20 back let's see what Brandon's got for us 52:23 Adobe 52:25 video yeah so ad Adobe adobe's doing 52:28 Adobe Max right now if you want to see a 52:30 bunch of cool [ __ ] just go to Twitter 52:32 and type in Adobe Max and just go watch 52:34 a bunch of the videos we can look at 52:35 some of them tonight but but 52:38 basically Adobe when when I first 52:41 started the the salon in December of 52:44 2022 a good buddy of mine worked at 52:47 Adobe and he worked in the AI group John 52:49 Knack and he came and he spoke at the 52:51 the salon and John um the first time he 52:56 spoke 52:57 he showed us some AI stuff that adobe 52:59 was working on but he said we haven't 53:01 really made a decision whether we're 53:02 going to you know launch this stuff and 53:05 then two months later out came Firefly 53:09 and they launched it and so if you look 53:13 at the Adobe Max videos what you're 53:15 seeing is the fruits of the fact that 53:17 they they went in early aggressively 53:19 with AI you're starting to see the 53:22 results of you know things they're 53:23 adding to their tools that are pretty 53:25 pretty miraculous there's one now that's 53:27 called I forget what it's called but you 53:30 basically take like a you chop a person 53:33 out of picture a and you put them into 53:35 picture B where the lighting's 53:36 completely different and and you just 53:38 say make it look the same and it just 53:40 goes relights it Shadows it's crazy it's 53:47 Bonkers question how does your digital 53:49 twin answer stuff for you that you have 53:53 no knowledge about because it's 53:55 connected to the it's connected to 53:59 gp4 so it just does 54:02 now what you would what you would argue 54:05 is well that's not really a digital twin 54:09 correct um but but it um but it does it 54:14 Through My worldview Lens it's it's 54:18 fascinating um and like if you do 54:20 brainstorming with it it tends to be 54:22 really good because it kind of knows how 54:24 you think what is happening with the 54:27 image show and tell on the mighty 54:30 Channel I don't 54:33 know is something going on 54:38 there image Show and Tell did did we get 54:44 invaded image 54:47 tools show and tell 54:57 I don't 55:00 know it seems normal to 55:04 me I don't know what's going on Daniel 55:06 quebecer what what's the question I mean 55:09 I mean I know what the question is 55:11 what's the what's the purpose of the 55:13 question just go into the go into the 55:15 salon and hang 55:23 out oh no more images in Show and Tell I 55:26 think ah okay okay got it got it got it 55:28 okay yeah so so we we changed some 55:31 things got it got it got it I thought I 55:33 thought we were like invaded by like 55:34 hackers or 55:37 trolls okay so let me let me catch 55:40 everyone else up so where I'm where I'm 55:42 going right now is I'm going to the 55:45 community site for the AI salon so if 55:48 you go to the 55:50 salon. that's our website and if you 55:52 scroll down a little bit you'll see a 55:53 button that says join our community and 55:55 if you click on join our Community 55:57 that'll take you over 55:59 to AIS salon. 56:02 mn. the mighty 56:05 networks and okay so there's a couple of 56:08 things so so we've done some rearranging 56:10 Daniel and and if you haven't been in a 56:12 while there's I I'm really excited about 56:15 these changes but they are different so 56:17 let me walk you through them uh can I 56:20 widen that no okay so the first thing we 56:23 did is we created a new welcoming 56:25 sequence called start your adventure and 56:27 it's seven steps there's you start with 56:30 welcome and there's a a welcome video 56:32 from Leah and I um welcoming everyone to 56:35 the uh to the 56:37 salon um and then you know we talk about 56:39 play first mindfully create generously 56:41 lead then you introduce yourself then 56:44 you learn our values then you can here's 56:46 a link to all of our past meetings um 56:50 you can RSVP for the next event which by 56:52 the way the the 56:54 next um Salon presents was supposed to 56:57 be on November 5th which is election 56:59 night so I just figure everyone's going 57:01 to be worried about that rather than 57:03 this so we're not doing it uh next uh 57:06 the first weekend or the first Tuesday 57:09 of November is not happening um and then 57:12 hang out in chat is is that thing and 57:14 then help us grow is basically our 57:15 social media channel so so that 57:17 seven-step onboarding process that's new 57:20 we all we then also really cleaned up 57:21 what we're now calling Community Corner 57:24 which is Salon announcements we added a 57:26 new section called call for 57:27 collaborators so if you want to put 57:29 together a project and you want 57:30 collaborators you can start your own 57:32 little um threads in here uh to see if 57:34 you can get people to to you know join 57:36 you on a project you can ask for help uh 57:39 about the community and then you can 57:40 give people shout outs then there's a 57:42 news section and then there's a whole 57:44 new area called tools and play so all of 57:47 the showand tell areas are inside the 57:50 tools and play so every one of these 57:52 sections now has three areas there's the 57:54 tools tab the tool talk tab where you 57:59 can chat about this stuff and then 58:00 there's Show and Tell and so all of the 58:03 showand Tells that were there before are 58:04 still there but that's now within each 58:08 of these areas and so this allows people 58:10 to play with different tools and you 58:13 know we're updating we're updating these 58:15 sections based on you know what people 58:17 are talking about and what they request 58:20 be put in there uh but you can go in and 58:22 you can ask questions so this is a new 58:24 really powerful area so that's that's 58:26 where Show and Tell went so sorry about 58:28 that I didn't quite understand the 58:34 question all right ah ah said 58:39 Daniel it makes so much sense 58:46 now yeah I we were actually worried that 58:48 that was going to be a a real problem 58:50 and just people sort of you know 58:52 intuitively jumped in and kept kept 58:54 adding things into the show and tell 58:56 area 58:57 so we basically took the showand tell 58:58 channels and just added the tool lists 59:00 to it is is effectively what we did and 59:03 then added added in a little chat 59:05 section um so anyway yeah but anyway 59:08 this is the salon if you're if you're 59:10 not a part of the salon this is a really 59:12 powerful Community um where you know our 59:15 values are like who can you expect to be 59:18 in here you can expect people in here to 59:21 be curious curiosity is one of our 59:23 values playful like there's the the 59:27 douche the douche quoti is very low in 59:30 this community like you have a lot of 59:31 very generous people that are playful 59:33 and curious and um empathy empathetic 59:37 bravery willing to take a risk willing 59:39 to try new [ __ ] willing to feel like you 59:42 know a complete Outsider and you know 59:45 um feel completely clueless but do it 59:49 anyway and then the final one is 59:51 generosity this is a this is a community 59:53 full of people that are generous in 59:56 their willingness to share what they 1:00:00 know you know we've got Peyton here 1:00:02 Peyton I joke all the time and you know 1:00:04 go back and forth on stuff he's he's uh 1:00:08 uh he works at Google on their on their 1:00:11 TPU uh group uh doing sort of high-end 1:00:16 AI stuff and he is completely willing to 1:00:19 come in and explain how stuff works 1:00:21 technically things like that we've got 1:00:23 you know similar people with um like 1:00:25 Peter k I will teach you how to make 1:00:28 stuff in mid journey and so will Claire 1:00:30 and there's a there's a club with 1:00:32 Brandon and Claire Dr J in here um 1:00:35 called uh everyday life hacks where you 1:00:39 can you know figure out all sorts of 1:00:40 cool [ __ ] you can do with AI to just 1:00:43 make your life better it's a it's a cool 1:00:45 group so if you have not joined it you 1:00:48 should go join it and become a 1:00:51 loving generous Brave empathetic playful 1:00:56 curious 1:00:57 [Laughter] 1:01:00 Soul cuz 1:01:02 if here's the [ __ ] 1:01:05 deal like social media is [ __ ] nasty 1:01:10 right everyone's down to cut everyone 1:01:11 else down everyone's jealous of 1:01:14 everyone the thing about this AI stuff 1:01:18 is it's so profound and it's so 1:01:23 um it's moving so fast 1:01:29 that it's essentially impossible to keep 1:01:31 up with it so by being in a community 1:01:33 like 1:01:35 this you surround yourself with people 1:01:37 that have figured out some piece of the 1:01:39 puzzle right there's there's a million 1:01:41 pieces of this puzzle we're trying to 1:01:43 solve and any one of us can maybe handle 1:01:46 three or four 1:01:47 pieces right if we're really capable if 1:01:51 you're like I'm just getting started you 1:01:53 might just have one corner of one piece 1:01:55 and that's fine 1:01:56 cuz I guarantee you that little corner 1:01:58 is some some Corner that someone else 1:02:00 hadn't hadn't figured out 1:02:02 yet and because it's a community that is 1:02:05 curious they're constantly learning new 1:02:08 pieces and because they're playful 1:02:11 there's not like The Angst and stress of 1:02:13 like we got to figure it out we got to 1:02:15 we got to make things more efficient 1:02:21 and and then because people are generous 1:02:24 they're willing to share what they're 1:02:25 learning so you can come into this 1:02:28 community and 1:02:31 be and get up to speed with this AI 1:02:34 stuff dramatically 1:02:36 faster than you could have otherwise and 1:02:39 that's what this Channel's about I go 1:02:41 live here five nights a week if you've 1:02:44 not been here 1:02:46 before 8:00 p.m. mountain time week 1:02:49 nights I go live and it's Chad add like 1:02:53 what I can promise you is I don't have 1:02:55 an agenda 1:02:56 I will not have an 1:02:58 agenda I don't like agendas they give me 1:03:03 aa I occasionally finish a sentence you 1:03:07 can make money 1:03:08 with many times I 1:03:13 don't but this isn't about me what this 1:03:15 is about this is about this community 1:03:18 hanging out together and supporting one 1:03:20 another and hanging out over on the AI 1:03:23 Salon answering each other's questions 1:03:25 here welcoming new people in oh this is 1:03:27 where Kyle he's just acting like an 1:03:29 idiot right now he'll he'll calm down 1:03:31 soon 1:03:34 enough you know they'll come in and talk 1:03:37 about how I should trim my nose 1:03:42 hair send me free 1:03:44 minoxidil things for 1:03:47 my um gravity challenged 1:03:55 hairline it's a loving group to each 1:03:57 other they're very mean to 1:03:59 [Laughter] 1:04:04 me all right what else Brandon got for 1:04:07 us back to chat eedd so how wait so how 1:04:11 or where the idea of this community came 1:04:14 from which is great thank you ocean 1:04:19 um I 1:04:21 so so I was already getting pretty sold 1:04:25 on generative AI I was doing a lot of 1:04:27 stuff with stable diffusion and a thing 1:04:29 called dream Booth where I could upload 1:04:31 pictures of myself and make like these 1:04:32 crazy self-portraits so I started an art 1:04:34 project in like fall of 1:04:38 2022 um called Kyle Shannon dreams and 1:04:40 it was just all these weird ass 1:04:41 portraits of me and I'd write stories 1:04:43 for them and 1:04:46 um because of 1:04:49 that a good friend of mine I used to 1:04:51 work with at agency.com said hey will 1:04:54 you talk to my friend Leah she's a 1:04:56 photographer here in Boston and she 1:04:58 wants to know like what the hell are you 1:04:59 doing to make these images and I'm like 1:05:01 sure I'll sure I'll talk to her so Leah 1:05:04 called me and we talked for a couple of 1:05:06 times and you know I told her what I was 1:05:08 doing and she told me what she was doing 1:05:10 and she just had this really cool 1:05:11 attitude I'm like are you doing anything 1:05:13 in AI she's like no I've been a 1:05:15 photographer for 20 years and I made the 1:05:17 transition from film to digital and now 1:05:19 I'm kind of excited about figuring out 1:05:21 this AI stuff and so I want to know what 1:05:23 you're doing and and we just talked 1:05:24 about 1:05:26 that idea of just being in this curious 1:05:28 space about it and then right in the 1:05:31 middle of that conversation chat GPT 1:05:34 drops and we had been kind of talking 1:05:37 about I wonder if we put together like a 1:05:39 little group to you know figure this 1:05:43 [ __ ] 1:05:44 out and so chat GPT dropped and I 1:05:48 [ __ ] lost my mind I was like holy 1:05:51 [ __ ] this changes everything and and to 1:05:54 to give you a little bit of context back 1:05:55 in in the mid 90s I had a very similar 1:05:59 Epiphany about the worldwide web I'm 1:06:00 like holy [ __ ] this web thing changes 1:06:03 everything but nobody knows about it yet 1:06:05 and so I started one of the early 1:06:07 digital U magazines an art and culture 1:06:10 magazine called Urban desires and I 1:06:12 started an agency called agency.com 1:06:14 which was one of the first digital 1:06:16 agencies and we built a lot of the 1:06:18 websites for the Fortune 500 when nobody 1:06:20 really knew what websites were cuz it 1:06:22 was super simple there were like six 1:06:24 HTML tags like it it didn't take much 1:06:27 but it took curiosity and it took um a 1:06:30 whole Community coming together so back 1:06:32 in the 9s I started this group called 1:06:34 the worldwide web artist Consortium in 1:06:36 New York City and we became like 1:06:41 the you know Industry 1:06:44 Group um for for East Coast web 1:06:47 development right so because what New 1:06:49 York had that San Francisco didn't was 1:06:51 the whole media world right they had all 1:06:53 publishing and things like that and so 1:06:58 so my experience putting that group 1:07:01 together was like I knew it was required 1:07:04 I knew that nobody was an expert I knew 1:07:06 that everybody was trying to figure it 1:07:08 out this is what I learned back then 1:07:10 everybody was trying to figure it out 1:07:12 the only way you could actually learn 1:07:14 stuff was like hang out with other 1:07:16 weirdos that were talking about the 1:07:18 worldwide web so the minute chat GPT 1:07:21 came out I was like holy [ __ ] this is 1:07:23 one of 1:07:24 those and so so I just said to Lee I 1:07:27 said I said we're starting the salon and 1:07:29 we went and got the URL and we booked a 1:07:32 meeting and 7 days after chat GPT 1:07:36 launched we had our first meeting here 1:07:38 and I think probably within a week or 1:07:41 two of that I started this Tik Tok 1:07:45 Channel um just as a way I you know it's 1:07:48 funny I selfishly started this 1:07:53 channel because I thought 1:07:57 if 1:07:59 I if I if I put myself on the hook for 1:08:03 explaining how this [ __ ] Works to other 1:08:05 people I need to learn it well enough 1:08:07 that I know how to use 1:08:09 it it was very selfish 1:08:12 right um and then about three or four 1:08:16 months after that I started doing these 1:08:19 lives so April of 1:08:21 2023 April 30th 2023 was the first live 1:08:26 and I just made a commitment I was uh at 1:08:30 the time I was doing a lot of sim racing 1:08:33 like I have a racing rig so I was racing 1:08:35 people on virtual car tracks and I'd 1:08:38 come home and I'd eat dinner and then 1:08:39 I'd race for two or three 1:08:41 hours I was just wasting my 1:08:44 life and I thought what if instead of 1:08:48 racing for two or three hours a night I 1:08:50 went live for two two or three hours a 1:08:52 night so I just made a commitment and so 1:08:54 for $300 65 days except for the days I 1:08:58 was banned by Tik Tok for saying stupid 1:09:01 [ __ ] um I went live and then once I hit 1:09:06 a year I dropped it down to five days a 1:09:08 week so so that's why it's weekday 1:09:11 now but that's the that's the origin 1:09:13 story of it so 1:09:20 um I think I think a lot of 1:09:24 people don't quite get the shift that 1:09:28 that chat GPT 1:09:29 caused so pre- chat 1:09:32 GPT if you wanted to be an AI you 1:09:35 essentially had to be an 1:09:37 engineer you had to understand what apis 1:09:39 were you had to understand if you go 1:09:41 into the the chat GPT playground what 1:09:44 different models were and there was 1:09:46 documentation and you had to read that 1:09:48 [ __ ] and if you really wanted to like do 1:09:51 your own AI you had to understand what 1:09:53 weights were and what embeddings were 1:09:55 and what [ __ ] math was and you're 1:09:57 like if you're like me you looked at it 1:10:00 and you're like I want it to be 1:10:06 easier and then chat PT came out and it 1:10:09 was like 1:10:11 ah this is where I come 1:10:13 in because one of the things that I've 1:10:16 historically been really good 1:10:18 at is when one of these moments happen I 1:10:21 don't know what it is it's just my sort 1:10:23 of Natural Curiosity like 1:10:26 that Tipping 1:10:28 Point you know for AI it's November 30th 1:10:32 2022 it is crystal clear for the 1:10:35 worldwide web it was 1989 whenever Tim 1:10:37 burner Lee come up came up with the HTTP 1:10:40 protocol and then when and what when it 1:10:42 really was was like 1993 94 when the 1:10:46 first web browser came out right so that 1:10:49 was that was kind of the inflection 1:10:51 point for the worldwide web was was 1:10:53 really 9394 1:10:56 with AI it's quite specific November 1:10:59 30th 2022 open AI launches chat 1:11:05 GPT a fun fact that many people don't 1:11:08 know is that the instructions for how to 1:11:12 build chat GPT were in the documentation 1:11:15 of GPT 3's Dev site for a 1:11:19 year and nobody built that 1:11:23 [ __ ] and Sam wman said to the tech team 1:11:26 you have two weeks to build it Microsoft 1:11:28 was about to announce a billion doll 1:11:30 investment in open Ai and Sam Alman said 1:11:33 you have two weeks and so the team said 1:11:36 oh go build that thing that's in the 1:11:38 documentation yeah go build that 1:11:42 okay they built it they went out for 1:11:44 drinks the night before it was going to 1:11:47 launch and they they they assumed maybe 1:11:49 it would get shared a couple hundred 1:11:51 times and you know 5,000 comments 1:11:53 something like that five 5 days later 1:11:56 they had a million 1:11:58 users 6 weeks later they had a 100 1:12:01 million users fastest adoption of 1:12:03 technology in history with no 1:12:11 marketing that's the 1:12:15 beginning and I I I did some research I 1:12:19 mean no I didn't do research I asked 1:12:20 chat GPT once how many developers are 1:12:24 there in the world like what's the 1:12:25 percentage 1:12:26 and it's incredibly low like being 1:12:28 generous generous generous it's maybe 2% 1:12:30 it's probably more like 1:12:34 1.2% so prior to November 1:12:38 30th you 1:12:41 know 1.2% of of the Earth's 1:12:48 population you know who could be who 1:12:50 could be developers had access to Ai and 1:12:54 after November 30th the other 1:12:58 98.8% of people got access to 1:13:02 it that's that's what's going to change 1:13:05 everything I mean yes we need the 1:13:07 technologist to build it to make it 1:13:09 efficient to do all that but now that 1:13:10 it's in our 1:13:12 hands you 1:13:14 know we watched a video last night from 1:13:17 Joy pie who's in here a 7 minute video 1:13:20 she did using generative audio 1:13:23 generative music generative IM 1:13:26 generative video clever editing just 1:13:30 just like elbow grease of just her Brute 1:13:33 Force learning how to do it brilliant 1:13:38 film it it was so good that I said she's 1:13:43 definitely got a like a film making 1:13:45 background and so she was on last night 1:13:48 and I said you have a filmmaking 1:13:49 background right and she's like 1:13:52 no I'm just a lady that works in 1:13:55 healthcare 1:14:02 so that's why this exists 1:14:06 because and and you know Sam Alman talks 1:14:09 about this a lot he says there's only so 1:14:11 much we can do in the lab there's only 1:14:13 so much testing and training we can do 1:14:14 in the lab because we're Engineers we're 1:14:16 going to look at what these tools are 1:14:19 through a very particular 1:14:21 lens and it's only when we put these 1:14:23 tools out in the world to the other 1:14:28 98.8% and say what are you going to do 1:14:30 with this 1:14:31 thing oh they're making a lot of 1:14:33 children's 1:14:35 books there's a lot of cookbooks being 1:14:37 made huh 1:14:43 interesting so that's what this is all 1:14:46 about what are we going to do with it 1:14:49 and by we I mean the rest of 1:14:53 us how are you going to use it and work 1:14:55 how how you going to use it at home how 1:14:57 are you going to use it with your 1:14:58 friends oh I'd never use it with my 1:15:00 friends they they they don't like AI 1:15:03 well then they haven't [ __ ] played 1:15:04 with 1:15:05 it you 1:15:08 know uh is Joy's video in the AI Salon 1:15:12 it is a is a Gen X Echo chamber for the 1:15:17 most part that's just mean 1:15:20 Pate pate's just under Gen X so he's a 1:15:22 little bitter he's got millennial age 1:15:26 toward the Gen 1:15:27 xers but it's true it is totally a Gen X 1:15:31 Echo chamber he's not here's the thing 1:15:33 about pay he says things that are mean 1:15:35 but they're also true which is really 1:15:38 [Laughter] 1:15:48 annoying but also not for 1:15:51 nothing we got some gen xers that are 1:15:54 pretty kickass at at generative 1:15:57 AI which I think is pretty [ __ ] 1:15:59 cool like a lot of people oh joy PR's in 1:16:02 here hey Joy yes in video show and tell 1:16:05 P's like that's 1:16:08 me mean but 1:16:14 accurate raise his hand yes an Murphy 1:16:17 how can we help you I by the way I had a 1:16:19 blast Dan on your on your podcast today 1:16:21 so thank you for that that was that was 1:16:23 really awesome are they making fun of 1:16:26 Gen X no just P's making fun of Gen X oh 1:16:28 yeah it's a very talented 1:16:30 group I use it on my sites what's that 1:16:34 the 1:16:35 balm I I use the balb on my sites 1:16:38 too it's just a 1:16:44 rash oh you're raising your hand cuz 1:16:47 you're a gen xer 1:16:51 and same raise his hand because Gen X 1:16:53 and good at generative AI exactly L 1:16:58 exactly I'll put up I'll put up my batch 1:17:01 of Gen X batshit crazy Irregulars here 1:17:05 against your [ __ ] gen Z don't give a 1:17:08 [ __ ] about the world any day of the week 1:17:11 we will [ __ ] mop the floor with you 1:17:13 your your 1:17:17 zenial yo man I don't know why you're so 1:17:20 excited about this AI stuff whatever dad 1:17:26 I've got two of them upstairs they don't 1:17:28 give a [ __ ] about this stuff I'm like 1:17:31 this is this is your ticket to like [ __ ] 1:17:33 you the older Generations yeah whatever 1:17:38 like gen xers are like all right well 1:17:41 they they [ __ ] forgot about us on the 1:17:42 news I guess we'll just [ __ ] things up 1:17:44 with with 1:17:48 AI we got a chip on our shoulder and we 1:17:51 get joy out of 1:17:53 it we will offend you we will trigger 1:17:56 you we will absolutely trigger you and 1:17:59 now because of AI we're going to be much 1:18:01 better at triggering you than than we 1:18:03 were without it cuz we can be much more 1:18:05 articulate about the 17 different ways 1:18:08 we can offend 1:18:11 you so much joy 1:18:17 exactly oh man in 40 lead a prompt with 1:18:22 Slash reason and it will invoke 01 1:18:24 preview 1:18:26 we were there at the beginning of the 1:18:27 internet and now this you know Lori K I 1:18:30 think I for me that that's the only 1:18:34 explanation I can figure 1:18:36 out of why Gen X gets this so much and 1:18:40 is so [ __ ] passionate about it and 1:18:42 again I think P's got a point that my 1:18:45 particular worldview is skewed by the 1:18:47 fact that this is a bit of a Gen X Echo 1:18:50 chamber 1:18:51 but like a lot of the Gen xers in here 1:18:54 are cons their kids don't give a [ __ ] 1:18:56 about it the young people don't give a 1:18:57 [ __ ] about it 1:19:00 um and uh but but like gen xers that 1:19:04 like once they see it they're like ah 1:19:06 this is like that early internet [ __ ] 1:19:09 and a lot of them are like this is like 1:19:10 that early internet [ __ ] that I missed 1:19:13 and I swore if I ever got the chance to 1:19:15 do this [ __ ] again I wouldn't miss it 1:19:17 this time so I think there's some of 1:19:19 that going on 1:19:21 too so I think you're right on spot on I 1:19:24 feel we worked and broke all the rules 1:19:27 to survive yeah that's 1:19:29 right it's it's a totally fine Echo 1:19:33 chamber if it's if it's an AI Echo 1:19:35 chamber too not too bad yeah exactly yes 1:19:39 I feel the same way I grew up watching 1:19:41 the Jetson Joey isn't it amazing 1:19:46 that with the exception of flying cars 1:19:49 but now we've got drones so so we're 1:19:53 actually not that far from flying cars 1:19:55 like all of the tech on the Jetson all 1:19:57 of it were within 3 years 1:20:03 of it's 1:20:06 bizarre I kind of feel like a lot of the 1:20:09 Star Trek technology we we got about 1:20:11 half of the Star Trek technology out of 1:20:12 the way with the internet and the 1:20:14 worldwide web and social media and small 1:20:17 you know 1:20:18 smartphones like like I feel like we got 1:20:21 you know half of it out of the 1:20:23 way and and there's probably AI is 1:20:26 probably going to do like you know the 1:20:28 next 1:20:30 35% so there's still like the 15% of you 1:20:34 know the particle Beamers and [ __ ] like 1:20:36 that but like the room where you walk in 1:20:38 and it just turns into a different you 1:20:40 know it turns into like a western 1:20:43 town like we're not that far from 1:20:46 that it's [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy living 1:20:49 in a post- Sci-Fi 1:20:51 world my son was born after chat GPT was 1:20:54 launched wow I can't imagine what his 1:20:57 gen will do or have I mean pay that's 1:21:01 that like kids that are born right now 1:21:04 you know if you think about kids that 1:21:06 were born when the internet was first 1:21:08 firing up kids that were born that 1:21:13 always had the internet always had it 1:21:15 always 1:21:16 on so probably kids that were born kind 1:21:19 of 2000 and up like my kids were born 1:21:23 1999 and 1:21:26 like they've lived their whole lives 1:21:27 with the internet being connected and 1:21:29 like your kid is going to grow up in a 1:21:32 time where you can literally 1:21:34 go I want 1:21:37 this and then it will be manifested 1:21:40 right it'll be 3D printed or it will be 1:21:44 you 1:21:44 know a video game will 1:21:49 emerge that's 1:21:53 Bonkers it's bonkers 1:21:56 it's like we gen xers we had to watch 1:21:58 the [ __ ] secret remember the secret 1:22:01 you know think it and it will manifest 1:22:03 it it was all like this esoteric [ __ ] 1:22:05 but now with generative AI you literally 1:22:07 ask for it it's like there it 1:22:11 is we don't we don't need no thinking 1:22:14 secret we we got gen 1:22:19 AI what's amazing in Star Trek they 1:22:22 never showed anything automated by AI 1:22:24 other than talking yeah talking to the 1:22:26 to the 1:22:27 bridge it feels like manifestation it 1:22:30 totally is manifestation the secret was 1:22:33 so 1:22:34 ridiculous because we're living in a pre 1:22:37 AI world and I'm just a pre-ai girl cuz 1:22:40 we all live that's good I like 1:22:44 it I love that age so much fun babies 1:22:48 are 1:22:50 awesome hey I guy we finally got get to 1:22:52 be George and Jane Jane Jane stop this 1:22:56 crazy 1:23:01 thing oh 1:23:04 man I think because we're all the same 1:23:07 exact same media at exactly the same 1:23:10 time the future was speeding up yeah 1:23:13 that that could be part of it yeah I 1:23:14 mean I think I kind of feel like gen 1:23:16 xers are you know were definitely the 1:23:18 last 1:23:20 generation to understand what monolithic 1:23:24 Med 1:23:25 was right like when I grew up there were 1:23:27 three networks that was it three 1:23:30 networks and then the UHF channels that 1:23:33 you know just came in all 1:23:38 fuzzy I'll never forget I when I was 5 1:23:42 years old I invented the 1:23:46 DVR so I'm watching whatever show and my 1:23:50 mom comes into the 1:23:52 room and she's like like okay Kyle time 1:23:56 for bed and I'm like okay but if I turn 1:23:59 this off can I can I keep watching this 1:24:01 in the morning and she said yes and I 1:24:03 was like great and so I turned off the 1:24:06 TV and I went to bed and then I woke up 1:24:09 in the morning like you do and I'm like 1:24:11 awesome I'm going to go finish that show 1:24:14 and I turned on the TV and the [ __ ] 1:24:16 news was 1:24:17 on I said Mom where's my show and she's 1:24:20 like what are you talking 1:24:22 about she didn't know what what I was 1:24:24 asking 1:24:25 I'm like you said if I turned it off it 1:24:27 would be here when I came and it's not 1:24:29 here she goes no that that's not how it 1:24:32 works so I didn't have the technical 1:24:35 capability back then but at 5 I 1:24:38 knew how the DVR worked it just didn't 1:24:42 exist 1:24:43 yet my first little Design Studio was 1:24:46 called attraction Industries because of 1:24:48 the secret beautiful fantastic yeah my 1:24:51 wife and I we did the secret we did Tony 1:24:53 Robbins 1:24:55 um we did The Forum landmark forum we 1:24:57 did it all like we're you know we're 1:25:00 [ __ ] hippie actors from from way 1:25:04 back we still do my uh my co-founder and 1:25:07 I with Story vine we'll we'll bring in 1:25:09 psychics we're like what's going on we 1:25:12 going to close this 1:25:15 business Hands Across 1:25:17 America 1:25:19 exactly that's 1:25:21 awesome attraction Studios that's 1:25:24 awesome 1:25:25 Hands Across America was fantastic and 1:25:27 then there was up with people remember 1:25:29 up with 1:25:30 people we we don't need those stinking 1:25:32 therapy we're just going to go to the 1:25:34 [ __ ] theater we're going to we're 1:25:36 going to [ __ ] dance our way out of 1:25:38 this we will not feel feelings up with 1:25:47 people up with 1:25:50 people we are the world exactly we had 1:25:54 it all people don't know how good we had 1:25:56 it I don't think we know how good we had 1:26:01 it Bob Dylan sings we all the world we 1:26:05 all the 1:26:11 people it was funny I saw I just saw a 1:26:13 documentary like they they finally got 1:26:16 Bob Dylan to agree to come to We are the 1:26:18 world and Dylan shows up and there's 1:26:21 like the world's best singers in the 1:26:23 room and so Dylan starts trying to 1:26:26 sing and I think it was uh liono Richie 1:26:30 pulled him aside and he's like dude no 1:26:32 just do you you don't need to sing so 1:26:35 that's why he's 1:26:36 [Applause] 1:26:43 like oh I don't actually feel old but at 1:26:46 the DMV today a girl was getting a 1:26:49 license date of birth 1016 1:26:53 2008 yeah 1:26:55 well I'm like I'm like I'll see I'll see 1:26:58 something on TV like you know um you 1:27:01 know 80s flashback and I'm like oh yeah 1:27:03 80s that was a couple of years ago and 1:27:05 I'm like oh that was like 45 years ago 1:27:08 oh 1:27:09 God I go to flop 1:27:15 sweats oh the We Are the World video 1:27:17 makes me cry it was definitely a 1:27:21 tearjerker oh my God you mean nobody 1:27:23 thought Dylan could sing I thought I was 1:27:32 crazy I have never 1:27:35 I I appreciate the space that Dylan 1:27:39 fills in in in cultural history but I 1:27:44 never I never got 1:27:48 [Music] 1:27:51 it like he's he sings like an SNL parody 1:27:56 of 1:28:00 himself he's from Minnesota that's 1:28:04 awesome oh my god do you want to know a 1:28:07 a brilliant but incredibly depressing 1:28:10 film is inside Luen Davis if you have 1:28:14 not seen that film if you if you like 1:28:16 Dylan and you like that era of 1:28:18 Music Inside Luen Davis is essentially 1:28:22 about a musician 1:28:25 who just missed being Bob 1:28:29 Dylan he's like he's like just at the 1:28:32 end of his career he's singing all these 1:28:34 shitty 1:28:35 bars and this kid shows up that starts 1:28:39 singing these songs and he's like I 1:28:41 don't get it and then the audience 1:28:42 [ __ ] loses their mind and it's Bob 1:28:44 Dylan and so it's a movie about not Bob 1:28:48 Dylan it's so [ __ ] depressing 1:28:56 oh 1:28:57 man it's very well done 1:29:02 though happy early birthday Pate when's 1:29:06 your birthday buddy that's 1:29:08 cool how the hell did he have a music 1:29:10 career you know 1:29:13 listen it's the thing 1:29:18 about that you know there are certain 1:29:20 people like like I feel like 1:29:24 there's certain people that are just who 1:29:26 they are and they're they're so specific 1:29:29 that they rise kind of in spite of 1:29:32 whatever else is going on right Dylan 1:29:36 was just like his comment like it was 1:29:39 his commentary and 1:29:40 his and his commitment to that message 1:29:43 and his commitment to his poetry it was 1:29:45 all about the 1:29:46 words and no one else was doing that and 1:29:49 I like I look at I look at Billy ish and 1:29:51 I think she's like that where she just 1:29:53 like she seemed to just emerge out of 1:29:55 nowhere there was nothing else like 1:29:59 her and it and it was just like it was a 1:30:02 singular voice there's there's that 1:30:03 video have you seen the video of um Fel 1:30:07 Williams watching Maggie Rogers 1:30:10 listening to Maggie Rogers song Alaska 1:30:13 for the first 1:30:15 time 1:30:18 um where the song starts playing and you 1:30:20 just see his he's like 1:30:25 and and the song ends and he goes I have 1:30:27 zero zero notes for 1:30:31 you and he says you are you are doing a 1:30:36 singular thing and he goes no one can 1:30:39 judge that you either like it or you 1:30:41 don't but you can't compare it to 1:30:43 anything else because there's nothing to 1:30:44 compare it to so I feel like there's you 1:30:47 know these come 1:30:50 along I don't know every five years 1:30:52 every seven years something like that 1:30:54 and they just emerge because they're not 1:30:57 the 1:30:58 other so and and and the time is right 1:31:01 you know the thing that made me feel 1:31:04 oldest recently 20th anniversary of 1:31:06 Shawn of the dead I'm telling you PT man 1:31:09 it just gets worse and worse I remember 1:31:11 I was at at agency.com 1:31:14 we 1:31:15 were we were growing a little too fast 1:31:18 and I think I had taken over the I was 1:31:20 the chief people officer I was the the 1:31:22 chief HR guy cuz we were [ __ ] up 1:31:24 people's lives and I was like someone's 1:31:25 got to fix 1:31:27 this and I remember being in an 1:31:29 onboarding meeting we had just hired 1:31:32 like 20 people and so I'm in a room full 1:31:34 of 20 people that are new 1:31:36 hires and I 1:31:38 said you know agency.com it's like 1:31:42 soilent 1:31:44 green nothing I was like it's the people 1:31:49 nothing nobody knew what soilent green 1:31:51 was no nobody got the reference and I 1:31:54 just I remember breaking into a flop 1:31:56 sweat going oh my God I'm 1:32:00 old and then it's just and then it just 1:32:03 after that everything's worse like 1:32:04 everything's an old reference to things 1:32:07 that you thought the things that you 1:32:09 think are still contemporary 1:32:12 that they're not even you know they're 1:32:14 they're still in the print version of 1:32:15 the encyclopedia 1:32:17 [Laughter] 1:32:20 britanica that's the deal man that's the 1:32:22 deal with aging 1:32:25 every third month or so the AI learning 1:32:27 lab takes a sharp right down down memory 1:32:29 lane it's true it's the people is the 1:32:32 only thing I know about soilent green 1:32:34 exactly like if you know soilent Green 1:32:36 at all you know it's the people soilent 1:32:39 green is 1:32:40 people it's a funny joke if you're in HR 1:32:43 and you're like it's about the people 1:32:46 but it's not and and today it would be 1:32:48 really bad so you so now that I 1:32:53 understand the reference are you you're 1:32:54 are you saying that cannibalism is 1:32:57 acceptable oh my I don't know that I can 1:32:59 work here this is a very aggressive 1:33:01 environment this is I oh 1:33:04 my you're and you're the head of HR um H 1:33:08 uh could I I don't who would I talk to I 1:33:11 I think I'm just going to go okay 1:33:19 okay I watched so green recently it's 1:33:22 pretty red it's a great movie movie it's 1:33:25 a great movie but it is ancient history 1:33:27 it was like the 1:33:29 70s Charlton hon before he looked 1:33:35 old Saturday Night Fever is still great 1:33:39 you this is definitely a Gen X Echo 1:33:46 chamber all right I said we would look 1:33:49 at Brandon's list he keep look this is a 1:33:51 long list of [ __ ] we could talk about 1:33:54 about he doesn't want us to talk about 1:33:57 old people stuff he's a little younger 1:33:59 Brandon he's 1:34:00 enthusiastic he's 1:34:02 smart but he doesn't have the you know 1:34:06 edge of us old people hang 1:34:10 on anthropic founder on AGI okay this is 1:34:14 actually an important one what time is 1:34:18 it I'm not going to go to it 1:34:21 but go do yourself if if you have 1:34:24 haven't heard of this do yourself a 1:34:26 favor and go 1:34:29 Google Machines of Loving Grace by Dario 1:34:35 amade so Machines of loveing Grace is a 1:34:38 15,000 word 1:34:40 essay that the founder of anthropic 1:34:43 wrote sometime this past 1:34:46 week and it's an incredibly optimistic 1:34:49 view of the impact of AI That's coming 1:34:52 and it's it's a long read it's 15,000 1:34:54 words if you're like me and you're like 1:34:57 I can't read 15,000 words pop the URL 1:35:00 into chat GPT and say summarize this or 1:35:05 even better I did this one this is fun 1:35:08 go to notebook LM and pop the URL into 1:35:11 notebook LM and then create an audio 1:35:13 overview you can create a little podcast 1:35:15 where they'll talk 1:35:17 about Machines of of loving grace but he 1:35:21 he talks with with some specificity 1:35:24 about you know the the areas in our 1:35:27 lives that are going to improve 1:35:29 dramatically over the coming years like 1:35:32 you know in in in terms of like 1:35:34 biological Improvement we're going to 1:35:36 see a hundred years of biological 1:35:39 Improvement in 5 to 10 years things like 1:35:43 that and this is coming from the guy 1:35:44 that's you know one of the F he was a 1:35:46 co-founder of open Ai and then he left 1:35:49 to form anthropic which is Claude right 1:35:51 Claude if you've used Claude this is the 1:35:53 guy that created it so that's worth 1:35:57 going and looking at Machines of love 1:35:58 and 1:35:59 grace Sam Alman interview I I don't care 1:36:03 right now or maybe ever um open AI has a 1:36:07 new agentic preview called 1:36:11 swarm okay here's the [ __ ] 1:36:17 thing if you run a 1:36:21 company that does things that are like 1:36:24 science fiction [ __ ] don't name your 1:36:28 product after dystopian [ __ ] 1:36:32 ideas don't call agents 1:36:36 swarms don't call the thing that you 1:36:38 look into to to give yourself human 1:36:41 identity the 1:36:43 orb don't design your your fancy 1:36:47 windowless van that holds 20 people to 1:36:50 look like something out of Blade Runner 1:36:52 Elon Musk like stop scaring us with your 1:36:55 stupid [ __ ] 1:36:57 names call it like sunshine and 1:37:01 fairies you got a PR issue here 1:37:04 everybody thinks the robots are going to 1:37:05 kill us and the first thing you come out 1:37:08 with around agents you call it swarms 1:37:17 really I've been waiting to hear your 1:37:20 take on Swarm my first take is rename it 1:37:25 how about how about um cuddle cuddle of 1:37:30 assisting 1:37:31 agents you just cuddle with them and 1:37:34 they do things for you no no we're going 1:37:37 to make a swarm of agents and we're 1:37:39 going to go out and swarm you up a 1:37:42 job it's like could could we not have it 1:37:47 be that 1:37:50 name all right I I'm telling you you 1:37:53 know what I need to I I I think I need 1:37:55 to do this I think I need to start a a 1:37:58 an AI branding company and just say okay 1:38:01 from Sam Alman okay Sam Alman first in 1:38:04 line let's deal with this 4010 4.0 1:38:09 40414 we're going to retire that like 1:38:12 nice try good logical 1:38:15 thinking we're going to call this one 1:38:17 GPT R for GPT 1:38:21 reasoning we're going to call this one 1:38:23 GP every 1:38:27 day canvas is okay but not 1:38:30 quite call it something close but we'll 1:38:33 make that 1:38:36 better and then just I just need I just 1:38:39 need every AI founder to just I need you 1:38:42 to step in line I need you to walk up 1:38:44 and you know what we're going to do this 1:38:46 like this like Lucy like The Doctor Is 1:38:48 In you put 10 cents in the cup but it 1:38:51 but now because of inflation it'll be 1:38:53 10,000 you put $10,000 in the 1:38:56 cup and then you tell me the names of 1:38:58 your 1:38:59 products why did he name it that exactly 1:39:03 so cam the first thing this is what this 1:39:05 is my commitment to all AI Founders when 1:39:09 you tell me the name of your products 1:39:11 the first thing I promise I will do is 1:39:17 go 1:39:19 really and that'll be our starting point 1:39:23 right cuz then I'll say really and 1:39:25 they'll go what and I'll go you 1:39:27 seriously don't know they'll be like no 1:39:31 and then I'll be like okay and then I'll 1:39:34 go to Netflix and I'll pull up Blade 1:39:35 Runner and I'll pull up this and I'll 1:39:37 pull up that and I'm see where the 1:39:39 Swarms are shooting lasers into people 1:39:41 eyes and they swarm around their heads 1:39:43 and it you know that that's why we're 1:39:46 not going to call it a 1:39:47 swarm do you know the killer bees in the 1:39:50 southwest that they they swarm and they 1:39:52 hurt doggies and people 1:39:54 okay so we're not going to do that oh I 1:39:57 we hadn't made that connect we just 1:39:58 thought cuz the a swarm Behavior yeah oh 1:40:01 no I understand how you got there but 1:40:04 we're not going to do that okay yeah 1:40:07 this is going to be called fuzzy cuddles 1:40:10 we're going to swarms is going to be 1:40:12 called fuzzy cuddles and and you have 1:40:14 your little buddies in a fuzzy cuddle so 1:40:17 the fuzzy cuddle is the group and you 1:40:19 got your buddies in the group and your 1:40:21 buddies do little fun things for you 1:40:22 they do fun tricks so we're going to 1:40:24 have buddies that do fun tricks in a 1:40:26 fuzzy cuddle all right 1:40:29 next that'll be $10,000 please move it 1:40:38 on God damn swarms the 1:40:43 [Applause] 1:40:48 orb it 1:40:50 hurts my head hurts good 1:40:54 [Applause] 1:41:05 not well well AI it's really just a 1:41:07 probability no it's not to anyone else 1:41:10 it's not to everyone else it's [ __ ] 1:41:14 magic they all think the robots are 1:41:17 going to kill them do you understand 1:41:19 that that's it doesn't it doesn't make 1:41:22 logical sense because the the the uh the 1:41:25 the the the probabilistic engine is it's 1:41:27 it's it's really just a a a a token 1:41:30 generation at scale and of course 1:41:32 massive scale and I mean it might appear 1:41:34 that it's actually thinking but it's not 1:41:36 it's not actually 1:41:37 thinking nobody knows 1:41:39 that they just see a thing that looks 1:41:41 like the thing that they saw in the 1:41:43 movie that killed all the 1:41:45 people and then you got the other people 1:41:48 going oh yeah these things if they get 1:41:51 it's going to be bad you got people 1:41:52 telling them Yep this is is the stuff 1:41:54 that you saw in the movie they're 1:41:59 scared no one is is no one in San 1:42:03 Francisco is there no one like me in San 1:42:05 Francisco going uh Bob uh hey come here 1:42:08 can can we uh hey Sam yeah could we 1:42:12 let's let's have a huddle can we can we 1:42:14 huddle could we have a huddle huddle up 1:42:17 let's let's just let's have a 1:42:21 huddle do you get that your freaking 1:42:23 people people out no 1:42:27 really like there's no one in San 1:42:29 Francisco that that has my 1:42:32 angst and and pronounces the word really 1:42:35 like 1:42:37 really no one they're all too polite 1:42:40 they're all too [ __ ] Maca machiato 1:42:45 chai makiato 1:42:47 out uh yeah half caffeine please thanks 1:42:50 half calf half calf 1:42:54 you need 1:42:55 moref you need someone in there worried 1:42:57 about what the [ __ ] you're naming your 1:43:05 products San Francisco is the Twilight 1:43:08 Zone llama just built a vehicle and left 1:43:11 my 1:43:12 system need more Gen X in their meetings 1:43:14 they do Lorie 1:43:16 K like like seriously they got to have 1:43:19 some Gen X in there where they're like 1:43:20 oh yeah I think this is kind of clever 1:43:21 no it's not clever it's stupid it's 1:43:25 stupid uh we don't like to use the sww 1:43:27 around here well I'm going to keep using 1:43:29 it until you make your names not 1:43:35 stupid don't make me break out the RW 1:43:38 I'll flip and do 1:43:41 [Laughter] 1:43:46 it you don't like to use the S 1:43:51 word let's explore some intellectually 1:43:54 challenged opportunities for 1:43:58 improvement no 1:44:01 really that's what you're going with the 1:44:04 orb the thing that scans your retina 1:44:07 you're going to call it the orb and 1:44:09 you're going to make it a giant Chrome 1:44:11 thing that sits on a 1:44:13 stick yeah that's kind of cool isn't it 1:44:16 no 1:44:26 I I can't 1:44:29 people now you've upset 1:44:33 me ULU RX Mel have you heard the pink 1:44:37 bow is missing Amelia's wife the pink 1:44:39 bow is missing I asked the MS about it 1:44:41 she said yes I used it I cannot find it 1:44:44 anywhere I don't know where she put the 1:44:45 [ __ ] pink bow now you might say but 1:44:48 Kyle couldn't you ask her I could but 1:44:50 the only time I remember that the pink 1:44:51 bow is missing is when I'm here 1:44:54 and I don't want to go out and get in a 1:44:56 fight about the pink bow while I'm in 1:44:57 the middle of one of these that would be 1:45:00 awkward honey I need my pink bow why do 1:45:02 you need a pink bow cuz I wear it on my 1:45:04 thing that's stupid I know it's 1:45:08 stupid can I have the pink B I don't 1:45:11 know where it is why don't you know 1:45:12 where it is where did you do with it 1:45:13 when you took it she I put it in my hair 1:45:15 but I don't know what I did with it 1:45:16 after like this is the conversation I 1:45:18 have to have at some point but I don't 1:45:20 want to have it live I mean sure it 1:45:23 would be entertaining for you but this 1:45:25 is my 1:45:31 life so ULU RX if you're in here 1:45:34 apparently I need a second pink 1:45:36 [Laughter] 1:45:38 bow because because apparently women 1:45:41 like 1:45:42 them I really did think this was my 1:45:46 thing even 1:45:48 though there are rumors that I don't 1:45:50 know how to wear them 1:45:53 RX yes yes we have CAU the thieves who 1:45:57 steal from 1:46:04 ULU 1:46:05 yeah so anyway my bow is missing so so 1:46:09 just imagine me with a a velour pink 1:46:14 bow reality TV time oh yeah this house 1:46:19 we thank you CEF 1:46:23 scouching around for a replacement bow 1:46:26 for 1:46:28 Kyle we we will send a kit with extra 1:46:33 bows I dare you to drive to work with it 1:46:35 on and make a Tik Tok post I'll [ __ ] 1:46:38 do it if I can find it I mean I really 1:46:41 don't have a problem looking like an 1:46:42 idiot as evidenced by this 1:46:45 [Laughter] 1:46:50 channel I need a haircut now look at all 1:46:53 that Luscious Hair look at this that's 1:46:59 fantastic I don't like to brag about the 1:47:01 locks but uh read them and 1:47:04 [Laughter] 1:47:18 weep yeah I know they have trimmers for 1:47:21 the eye I know I know I know 1:47:24 I don't want to hear it I am trying to 1:47:28 save the AI industry from itself with 1:47:30 its shitty naming and you're commenting 1:47:33 on my eyebrows and my nose 1:47:35 hair we've got to have priorities people 1:47:37 we've got to straighten this 1:47:49 out we will send it express to see the 1:47:52 bow Drive 1:47:53 I'm telling you next time I see the bow 1:47:56 it's coming with me to work did you like 1:47:58 my driving thing listen last time I 1:48:01 drove and made a Tik Tok Vicky yelled at 1:48:03 me she goes she goes don't make Tik toks 1:48:06 and drive so I had to make a comment 1:48:10 that I'm looking at the road I got my 1:48:12 hands on the wheel I did realize that 1:48:14 because I talk with my hands one of my 1:48:16 hands was not on the wheel very much but 1:48:18 that's not the 1:48:19 point my movie was great because I had 1:48:22 an awesome some character like you Kyle 1:48:25 thank you Joy I I am glad I could I am 1:48:28 glad I could tip your your uh your uh 1:48:32 your movie Over The Edge actually the 1:48:34 fact that I uh the fact that I yelled at 1:48:35 champy for singing in the middle in the 1:48:38 middle of my interview I thought that 1:48:39 was pretty solid you okay Kyle no I'm 1:48:42 not 1:48:46 okay they named their agents 1:48:50 swarms the first thing they come out 1:48:53 with the first thing open AI comes out 1:48:55 with they're they're level three AGI 1:48:57 they're like we got five levels of AGI 1:48:59 this is going to be 1:49:01 cool right chat chat Bots okay that was 1:49:06 fine chat Bots reasoning 1:49:10 reasonable 1:49:12 agents agents autonomous agents things 1:49:16 that assist you like 1:49:19 assistants what are we going to call 1:49:21 them I know 1:49:24 SWS 1:49:27 what what are you 1:49:30 thinking do you want people to hate us 1:49:33 and never try 1:49:35 [Laughter] 1:49:44 AI I I suspect that a plane is landing 1:49:48 now Kyle point0 1:49:55 swarms part of the reason I haven't 1:49:57 looked at swarms is because they called 1:49:59 it 1:50:02 swarms like I don't think I want to be a 1:50:04 party to 1:50:05 [Laughter] 1:50:10 this all 1:50:13 right I will commit to not yelling about 1:50:16 swarms anymore but really 1:50:21 really I could be a one-word consultant 1:50:24 you know what I should do I should 1:50:26 charge every major research lab $100,000 1:50:29 a year to come 1:50:32 in once every two weeks I'll commit to 1:50:36 this I'll come in for a half hour once 1:50:39 every two weeks for 100 grand a year I'm 1:50:42 going to do this for up to 20 companies 1:50:47 you're like that's a lot of money well 1:50:49 this is an important job 1:50:54 and I can come in person but I have to 1:50:56 fly first class or I can do a zoom 1:51:00 call and then you reimburse me for what 1:51:02 first class would have cost that's fine 1:51:04 too we can do it either 1:51:06 way and then what we do in that half 1:51:08 hour is I get on there and I'm like what 1:51:11 you cooking up and they're like oh we 1:51:13 got this feature and that feature and 1:51:14 that feature I'm like great and then and 1:51:17 then I say what are you thinking of 1:51:20 naming them oh we were thinking for this 1:51:23 this one we'd call it 1:51:25 swarm and then my only response will be 1:51:28 either okay if it's fine which it never 1:51:31 will be or 1:51:34 really and then they know if I say 1:51:37 Really they got to go rethink 1:51:40 it and if they don't have a lot of 1:51:42 products I'd be happy to explain why I 1:51:45 said 1:51:47 really I think that's worth a 100 Grand 1:51:49 a year 1:51:51 right really 1:51:54 the the previous one was called 4.0 1:51:57 you're going to call the 1:51:59 new Omni multimodal One 1:52:04 40 okay so it's for Omni you're that so 1:52:10 really yeah that's what we were thinking 1:52:12 uh 1:52:13 no no would be the answer 1:52:17 no and and then the next time I come in 1:52:20 because they override me and didn't 1:52:21 listen to me for that particular [ __ ] 1:52:25 cluster they come in and they well we 1:52:27 got this new reasoning model and what 1:52:30 are you going to call it 01 wait what 1:52:34 well yeah cuz it's like we're resetting 1:52:36 and and the O stands for open AI number 1:52:39 one like we're starting over wait but 1:52:41 didn't that o stand for Omni in the 1:52:44 previous version yeah but this is 1:52:45 different cuz it's new we're starting 1:52:47 over it's one so they won't cuz four 1:52:50 they won't look here that because 1:52:51 they'll go back here 1:52:56 really 1:52:58 really you does are other people in the 1:53:02 room thinking this makes 1:53:04 sense really like that's my whole job 1:53:08 I'm like the really 1:53:12 guy how about you call it 1:53:15 GP what's that stand for 1:53:18 reasoning it 1:53:20 reasons you just call it an R it's 1:53:22 different than four 1:53:26 oh look I'm getting rash I'm getting 1:53:29 hives yes no cam katk can I'm not good 1:53:32 I'm getting hives mommy mommy is that 1:53:35 the really 1:53:40 guy feel feel free to make the really 1:53:43 guy in the in the Irregulars Channel if 1:53:46 you want to make some really 1:53:48 images oh my God all right I'm sure it's 1:53:51 past our bedtime isn't it 1:53:54 sorry Brandon I didn't get to your [ __ ] 1:53:56 but we had important things to talk 1:53:57 about we had to talk 1:53:59 about old people thinking things are 1:54:03 still relevant in the world even though 1:54:05 they're 45 years 1:54:07 old we had to talk about shitty 1:54:11 naming Pro problems within I I mean 1:54:15 what's amazing with these companies 1:54:17 is they're literally creating technology 1:54:20 that's going to that's going to profound 1:54:23 ly impact the future of 1:54:25 humanity and they didn't spend $27 on a 1:54:29 naming 1:54:31 consultant come on come on please could 1:54:36 make it suck 1:54:38 less 1:54:40 well all 1:54:42 right I hope this has been informative 1:54:44 and helpful this is the AI learning lab 1:54:46 if you're new 1:54:48 here it doesn't get much better than 1:54:50 this 1:54:54 these are the good 1:55:00 times 1:55:04 Joey they didn't ask chat GPT for a lot 1:55:07 of good names yeah yeah that's the other 1:55:09 thing they who said that Lori 1:55:13 yeah they have a tool that they could 1:55:16 use they've got gp5 that they could use 1:55:20 they could have gone to GPT 5 and said 1:55:22 hey uh gp5 what are 10 ideas for names 1:55:27 that are not 1:55:29 this and it would have given them good 1:55:33 ones and all they would have had to do 1:55:35 is pick it oh that's 1:55:39 good let's call it magic that'll piss 1:55:43 off Pate that's fine I like it it sounds 1:55:45 it's like magic reasoning magic GPT 1:55:49 magic all right great G 1:55:53 think cuz it's thinking py it's not 1:55:56 really thinking okay whatever but 1:55:59 everyone else thinks it's thinking and 1:56:01 we said that when it when we do it it 1:56:03 says 1:56:04 thinking let's call it GP GP think GPT H 1:56:10 GP think GPT 1:56:16 think the 1:56:19 [Music] 1:56:21 Thinker would have been 1:56:24 better 01 what's the o stand for open AI 1:56:28 so it's a small o so your company name 1:56:30 is now going to have a small o oh no 1:56:31 it's going to have the Big O but it's a 1:56:33 small o so that small o is like the 1:56:35 other small o that stands for Omni 1:56:37 you're really 1:56:38 really all right I got to get out of 1:56:41 here I'm my blood pressure is I I'm 1:56:43 losing I can I can feel the hairs flying 1:56:46 out of my 1:56:48 follicles largely because I don't have a 1:56:50 pink bow to hold them in 1:56:54 cuz some 1:56:57 woman thought it was a good idea to use 1:56:59 the pink bow to hold her hair up while 1:57:01 she did her 1:57:03 makeup it's 1:57:14 exhausting all right I'm going to leave 1:57:18 now didn't I say that like 10 minutes 1:57:20 ago this is the 30- minute goodbyes 1:57:24 little housekeeping what's today 1:57:26 Wednesday today's Wednesday hump 1:57:30 day a't it amazing we got all these 1:57:32 weird ass things TGI Friday hump day 1:57:35 like hump day is like well we got over 1:57:37 it cuz you know our existence during the 1:57:41 week is so 1:57:43 horrible like we've got gloomy Mondays 1:57:47 hump day Wednesdays TGI Fridays like our 1:57:49 entire definition of the days of the 1:57:52 week are based on we [ __ ] hate our 1:57:57 jobs and then we have a technology that 1:57:59 comes along it's like hey we got this 1:58:01 technology it's going to do your job for 1:58:03 you and everyone's like I don't want to 1:58:04 lose my job oh that's lovely thank you 1:58:08 Vegas Mo see that was almost as pretty 1:58:10 as my pretty pink 1:58:13 bow see it just made me feel lighter all 1:58:17 of a 1:58:20 sudden our entire 1:58:22 dialogue we've got restaurants we got 1:58:25 restaurant chains named after the fact 1:58:28 that we [ __ ] hate our jobs and Along 1:58:31 Comes of Technology thank you Silver Fox 1:58:33 that's going to do our job for us and 1:58:34 we're like I don't want to lose my job 1:58:37 but you hate it you hate it so much 1:58:40 we've 1:58:41 named we we we've we've renamed the 1:58:44 entire days of the week based on how 1:58:46 much we hate 1:58:49 work but it's the only way I have to 1:58:51 Value myself well maybe that's the 1:58:54 problem now I know I'm being factious 1:58:57 and if you just lost your job because of 1:58:58 AI this Probably sounds 1:59:01 insensitive 1:59:03 but at some 1:59:06 point if you get curious about AI th 1:59:10 this is the this the this here's where I 1:59:11 get optimistic about this 1:59:16 stuff if you get curious about AI right 1:59:18 now if you hang out in places like this 1:59:20 in the AI salon and 1:59:23 you get active with this 1:59:26 stuff the thing that's scary that's 1:59:28 going to replace your job or the tasks 1:59:31 in your job if you get good at it you 1:59:34 get to use that technology too it's not 1:59:37 just your company that's going to use 1:59:38 that technology to replace you you can 1:59:41 use that technology to create a 1:59:43 competitor to put your company out of 1:59:45 [ __ ] 1:59:51 business or you could just have it write 1:59:55 poems I think I'll just make 1:59:58 music why not thank you Robert 2:00:01 Rossy all 2:00:04 right cookie get used to it what me just 2:00:07 being insane all right we are here 2:00:09 doesn't that alone make us curious yeah 2:00:12 oh yes it makes you quite 2:00:18 irregular all right so do me a favor 2:00:20 follow my channel subscribe to these 2:00:23 lives if you want to support me um and 2:00:26 uh and then go to the AI Salon join the 2:00:28 AI 2:00:29 Salon this is I think one of the best 2:00:32 things we can all do is be part of a 2:00:36 community like this community like that 2:00:39 Community where we get to know the other 2:00:41 people we get to know what they're good 2:00:43 at we get to know who they are we get to 2:00:45 know how they 2:00:47 work and we get to witness 2:00:51 them redefine who they are and what they 2:00:57 do and then when work comes along and we 2:01:02 need someone to do it with us we'll hire 2:01:06 them because we know they don't 2:01:08 suck because we're in a community with 2:01:10 them that's what this is all 2:01:12 about do you think we'll have more 2:01:15 companies go in and out of business due 2:01:17 to 2:01:18 AI yeah I think it's I I I 2:01:23 I think there's going to be some 2:01:25 companies that aggressively 2:01:28 go lean into Ai and I think they're 2:01:31 going to be 2:01:32 fine and then there's going to be some 2:01:34 companies that do the Kodak thing 2:01:40 right I think that the advertising 2:01:42 holding 2:01:44 companies run the risk right now of 2:01:48 being 2:01:51 Kodak at advertising holding companies 2:01:53 how they make their money is time and 2:01:55 materials the more people they have 2:01:57 working on projects for the more time 2:01:59 the more money they make because they 2:02:01 charge by the 2:02:03 hour clients now know that there's 2:02:07 technology that can do what those 2:02:09 agencies do in like 30 seconds and what 2:02:13 the agency will say is well but that's 2:02:15 just crap and it's not good and but we 2:02:17 need to look at it 2:02:21 and but at some point a small agency 2:02:24 with 10 people that are all AI 2:02:27 literate are going to show up at that 2:02:29 big client and go we'll deliver this 2:02:31 work for half the money deliver it twice 2:02:35 as fast and it'll be 2:02:37 better and one of those companies is 2:02:39 going to go we'll take that bet CU even 2:02:42 if you're wrong we don't like paying 2:02:44 these guys this much money so we'll just 2:02:46 save some money and the off chance that 2:02:48 you're any good and one of those 10 2:02:50 person companies is going to be really 2:02:52 good 2:02:53 and they're going to redefine that 2:02:55 industry and that could ENT that could 2:02:57 break an entire sector and so I think 2:02:59 we'll see a lot of companies completely 2:03:02 resist AI because it's an existential 2:03:05 threat to their business model not to 2:03:08 their business to their business 2:03:10 model and they're not going to be 2:03:12 willing to change that that's what 2:03:13 happened to 2:03:16 Kodak they invented the digital 2:03:20 camera and they marched it right out of 2:03:23 the executive suites and says not on our 2:03:29 watch we're a silver Halli company here 2:03:32 this is about 2:03:33 chemicals I think you should all know 2:03:35 that by now you take your little pixels 2:03:39 and you just March it down the street 2:03:40 there 2:03:41 buddy Marge bring me another 2:03:46 cigar so yeah so I think and and I think 2:03:49 that um some of those companies are 2:03:51 going to be okay but a lot 2:03:53 aren't interesting good perspective 2:03:56 thank 2:03:57 you it's changing business models period 2:04:00 it is and it's you know the companies 2:04:02 the companies that like like there's um 2:04:05 there's this guy in Boulder there's a 2:04:08 special effects house called $11 bill 2:04:11 and the CEO is this guy named Christian 2:04:13 Robbins Robbins I think Robins yeah um 2:04:18 he spoke at the AI 2:04:20 Salon he's 2:04:22 aggressively aggressively incorporating 2:04:26 AI into everything they 2:04:28 do and it you know they're having to 2:04:32 like duct tape stuff together but 2:04:34 they're now able to turn around effects 2:04:37 faster and faster and faster and as the 2:04:38 tools get better and better and better 2:04:41 they're going to be able to swap out 2:04:43 traditional techniques with new 2:04:45 techniques um so companies like that are 2:04:48 going to thrive I think 2:04:52 um and then companies that are just like 2:04:54 well no this is how we do things you 2:04:55 know we use we use you know this 3D 2:04:58 workflow and and we're never going to 2:05:00 use AI cuz it's intellectual property 2:05:02 theft and whatever they're going to use 2:05:04 whatever excuses they can use to avoid 2:05:06 it and they're going to get blindsided 2:05:09 they're they're not going to get 2:05:10 blindsided they're just going to be 2:05:11 whistling past the grave 2:05:15 graveyard while all the all the traffic 2:05:18 is running beside them really 2:05:20 fast so any 2:05:23 anyway all right I'm out of here all 2:05:26 right who's in here tonight we got cat I 2:05:28 see side hustle M Kyle you just gave me 2:05:30 a flashback to my first job they 2:05:34 had Chris oh oh oh Crystal cigar astrays 2:05:39 in the conference 2:05:42 rooms Sally bring me a whiskey 2:05:47 neat exactly 2:05:52 think two of railroads imagine if they 2:05:54 would have recognized they were in the 2:05:55 transportation business yeah Kodak 2:05:57 didn't realize they were in the memories 2:05:59 business they had the marketing a Kodak 2:06:03 memory the marketing was there but it 2:06:05 didn't work its way to the SE SE Suite 2:06:07 they didn't they didn't understand what 2:06:08 business they were in you guys I'm going 2:06:11 to Paris in the AM because of this 2:06:14 channel oh that's awesome and I I was 2:06:16 going to ask you about that what what 2:06:18 you were going for that's so cool that's 2:06:21 so cool all right I'm out of here all 2:06:23 right an Murphy did I just call you an 2:06:25 Murray I did an Murphy sorry I'm 2:06:28 tired but have fun in 2:06:30 gayer um I I would send you off with a 2:06:33 pink bow but there's a there's an 2:06:36 there's a 2:06:37 situation kakei side hustle Mimi Tobias 2:06:40 in the house ocean in the house um will 2:06:43 we leave the term you push or abuse AI 2:06:47 to the max you push wait will we have 2:06:50 the term you push or use AI to the max I 2:06:53 don't know maybe maybe I I think that I 2:06:56 don't think we're going to push AI I 2:06:58 think I think at best we're going to 2:07:00 collaborate with it and I think we're 2:07:02 quickly moving to a thing where we're 2:07:04 going to try to keep up with it we're 2:07:07 going to we're going to try to 2:07:08 understand what it makes possible I 2:07:10 think that's where we're headed we'll be 2:07:12 like uh Hey AI could could we play um 2:07:17 you 2:07:20 good I mean just go look at the Thing 2:07:22 Mark andreon did where uh he he put 2:07:26 $50,000 into this bunch of agent Bots 2:07:30 that were on a Discord server that 2:07:32 talked to each other and came up with a 2:07:34 meme a meme and then a meme coin and 2:07:37 then they created a cryptocurrency and 2:07:38 then they launched it and now it's worth 2:07:40 like $320 2:07:43 million hey can we play 2:07:46 could no all okay we'll be over here in 2:07:49 the human part 2:07:54 I think that's where we're 2:07:55 headed Kirk T in the house cam kaken in 2:07:58 the house great to see you Robert Rossy 2:08:00 thank you as always Mr it and Murphy 2:08:03 Drew and AI calling in from Down Under 2:08:06 Vegas Moxy great to see you I haven't 2:08:07 seen you in a while Joey in the house uh 2:08:11 live laugh love good in the house uh 2:08:13 Kyle oh yeah flashback to the cigars 2:08:16 very 2:08:18 nice Danielle in the house uhuh Sammy 2:08:22 Minister um Amelio's wife Daniel kecker 2:08:27 we found him his his showand tell images 2:08:30 I'm glad you're back on track um who 2:08:33 else we got let's 2:08:36 see archetypal 2:08:40 architect Vic 2:08:43 Van po or 2:08:45 Poff Emilio's wife he's asking Amelio's 2:08:49 wife if he's weird if you're asking if 2:08:51 you're weird I think we know the 2:08:54 answer not Saloon it's Salon thank you I 2:08:57 won't make that mistake again that's a 2:08:59 good 2:09:02 call all right everybody have a 2:09:05 fantastic night I hope you had fun 2:09:06 tonight I uh I don't know if I had fun 2:09:09 but I think I exercised some some demons 2:09:12 thanks for the laughs all right Lori K 2:09:14 great to see you peace out everybody uh 2:09:17 I will see you tomorrow same bat Time 2:09:19 same bat place peace thanks for 2:09:21 everything