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Mhm.
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>> [laughter] >> Hey, if you're on LinkedIn or YouTube or X, you've just seen a sign without me being there cuz I was not on stage. Now
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I'm on stage. Welcome. Welcome to the AI Learning Lab pre-show. If you're on TikTok, you didn't notice anything. >> [laughter]
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>> But welcome, welcome, welcome. We'll be going live in the AI Salon in about 20 minutes. The link to the AI Salon live
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stream is in the description below the video or if you're on X or TikTok, it's up in my profile. Go to my profile.
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That'll link you over to the AI Salon. We had a beautiful day today. We had our new member mixer for the AI
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Salon so we had a bunch of new people, some some people who've been around for a while but haven't really stepped
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forward and said hello, joined and stepped forward and said hello. It was really beautiful. And and then we had our kickoff meeting for
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the AI Salon Ambassadors program. Play some Zeppelin, please. I wish. >> [music]
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[music] >> Good news is the US soccer team is up one mill against Bosnia-Herzegovina. They just started the second half so that's happening.
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>> [music] >> So Adams, even a Kyle setting up Hermes tonight. I hear it's significantly better than open claw. I have heard that, too.
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Um I assume open claw's gotten better. I haven't touched open claw in a while. I've been playing with Codex.
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Um which is in the same hood. I would love to understand from someone the difference between those two, Codex and open claw and Hermes. Um
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I think with these agentic platforms, they are complicated enough that using multiple of them at the same time is
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just a lot. Is this you or your digital self? Very good. I like it. Hey Dr. J, what's happening? Um so tonight we're
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going to be playing with uh Gemini Omni. Uh I'm going to be playing with Claude Fable. I'm going to be playing with
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Claude Sonnet 5. Uh I'm going to be talking about what I think about Fable and what they what Anthropic did to themselves and
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ostensibly did to um OpenAI. Uh I don't think it's good. >> [laughter] >> And uh we will we will see. We will see what happens. >> [music]
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>> Oh. Damn it. Oh. Um >> [music] >> Yeah, so so this is the AI learning lab pre-show. We're going live shortly. Can you
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explain what Claude means about using Fable tokens, etc., Please, yes, I will. I will I will explain that. Um
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So, basically, here's the deal. And and I'll talk about this more tonight in the in the AI learning lab. Um Claude right now
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or uh yeah, Claude. I mean, if you go to Claude.ai, you have access to this model called Fable if you've got a 20 $20 a
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month or higher subscription. That lasts until July 7th. And then, you have to pay for it. Like on a per token basis. And the
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tokens aren't cheap. They're like 50 bucks per million tokens or 50? I don't know. Some ridiculous amount of money. Pretty expensive. Um
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What I think that effectively means is that big shops that are doing big development projects will likely use it. Um
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Mere mortals, unless you've got a very specific use case where you really need that kind of iron, won't. Um
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And I think adoption amongst Fortune 500 companies is actually going to be um very limited because of what Anthropic did. >> [music]
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>> So, I'm going to talk about that. We're going to play with it. We're going to use it. I'm going to see if I can do something
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that pushes its boundaries even a little, which I doubt I'll be able to. Tokens is like bandwidth for sale in
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1997. It's it's it's very it's very close to that. Here's Here's the difference, though. I'm not willing to
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pay Anthropic by the token. Nor am I. Um Yeah, I write books. I don't need the smartest thing yet. Yeah, it looks like
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the Sonnet 5's going to be really good. I think OpenAI 5.6 going to be really good. Um and 5.6, I think comes out tomorrow.
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Um, although Open AI is off this week, apparently they're still going to launch the 5.6 mile models tomorrow. What did you use to build
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AI Salon? Um, if you're talking about the salon.ai, the the sort of public marketing website, that was built in I think it was built
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in Word WordPress by a developer. Um, we didn't hire them. Someone else hired them. Um, we're probably at some point going to just um
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rebuild it ourselves. I think we'll probably just vibe code it. The community website, so if you go to community.thesalon.ai,
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that's built on top of Mighty Networks. So, the community is on Mighty Networks. Um, this is the AI Learning Lab pre-show.
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So, the show itself goes live at 7:30 Mountain Time, so that's in about 13 minutes. If you're on YouTube or
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LinkedIn, in the description of this video is the link to the AI Salon. If you're on X or uh TikTok, it's in my
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profile. The link over there is good. You can ask all these questions and more. Tonight's Wednesday night, so we will be uh
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we'll be playing playing with toys playing with there's new toys to play with. So, I think the uh the Omni flash model is pretty exciting.
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If you go to gemini.google and tell it to make a video, it'll that's the model that it's using. It's pretty pretty damn good. It's fast.
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It's cheap. I think. I don't know how long it stays cheap, but it's cheaper than it was. We'll be playing with Fable. We'll be
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playing with Sonnet. Um, yeah, we're at a really fascinating time because the ability to demonstrate
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how strong a model is, like Fable, it is it is probably um much more apparent if you're using it for agentic planning.
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Big, complicated, like go analyze this whole code base, find any find any vulnerabilities in it, come up
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with new ideas to fix it, like major planning things. That's where it comes to life. That's not super demoable in in in a show like this. Um
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so I'm going to do my best to to show what it is. Here's the thing that the comment before about tokens right now is
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like bandwidth in 1997 where, you know, if if you remember those days, you know, everyone's like, "Oh, I got a 14.4
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modem." And then at some point one of your friends got a 56K modem. You're like, "Ooh, fancy." And then, you know,
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there was the modem battles and you did it. The difference with tokens now is that we've got this token amplifier called an
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agentic platform. So, if you just go to ChatGPT as a human and you prompt it, go write me a screenplay, go write me a chapter, go
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write me a business plan. And then it spits that back at you, the that interaction is constrained by uh your attention span and your ability
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to do more than one thing at once, right? You could technically open 10 tabs in ChatGPT and go start a bunch of
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prompts and then just cycle through them and you'd use more tokens. But when you use something like Codex or
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something like Claude Code or Cloud Co-work or Perplexity Computer, you can just give it a goal and say, "Go
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figure that out." And it will just go start prompting and prompting and prompting and prompting and spinning up
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sub-agents and those sub-agents are prompting in parallel. And so, you can go from, you know, if if your capacity is is 1x,
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some number of tokens, that agentic platform can do 10, 20, 50 times the amount of token use that that you would do.
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So, that's that's kind of the difference is we have this multiplier in there and and work is shifting from these individual
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tools that humans use to these suite of this these ecosystems of tools that agents can use. Um Flashlighter Flash.
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I think it's Flash. I think it's Flash. I think it's just Flash. Hang on. For Gemini Ultra, um Gemini .google.com It's just Flash.
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Create video. Yeah, I think it's just Flash. Um anyway, in 9 minutes we'll be going
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live over in the AI Salon. The the link to that is in the description of this video. It's in my profile if you're on TikTok or X.
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Um ask about the difference between them. Let's see. Da da da. Mary Mary's in the house. Hello. Silver Fox is in the house.
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Uh ba da ba da ba da ba ba I see Digital Gods. >> [music]
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[music] [music]
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>> Um if if you see me looking off to the side, I'm I'm I'm rooting for America. Come on, America. We're up what? One nothing. One nil.
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As they say in the in the football league. >> [music]
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>> Kitch Kitchen is in the house. What's happening, Greg? I hope you're doing well. Good to see you. Um we had a
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really good day today. We had a new member mixer for the AI Salon. We kicked off the AI Salon Ambassador program. Uh
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if that's something you you'd be interested in, if you're a member and would like to represent the AI Salon, we
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just kicked off our first cohort today. So, that's pretty exciting. It was a good meeting. Had some really good meetings today.
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Um I'll be talking about Fable tonight. I'll be talking about Gemini Ultra. I'll be talking about Sonnet 5. I'll be
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talking about the implications of what Anthropic has done to the AI industry in America tonight. Needless to say, I am not a fan of what
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they've done. Um I wish I understood it. I wish I understood the depths a bit more than I do.
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But, it's possible that there's not much deeper than what's going on. It seems I don't know. Using international football terms
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seems like an own goal. And Trump has done an own goal for the United States. >> [music]
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[music] [music] >> You know, I heard a thing I heard a thing that that actually made sense. Um was talking about okay, so Fable has
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been made not available because hackers might use it to do bad things. And then so they gave it to 100 companies for a bit.
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What's happening Andy? Um and what they didn't do or what they did by doing that was they didn't allow any of the white hat hackers
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the anti-hackers to have access to the powerful model to develop counter attacks to whatever attacks might be coming. So uh
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it there's just so much of it that makes no sense to me. So we're going to be talking about that. We're going to be playing with it.
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We'll be making some vidjas. We're going to make some vidjas tonight. Uh yeah, all that sort of stuff. So, how
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long is that? That is 5 minutes away. So in 5 minutes at 7:30 Mountain Time, we're going to be going to the AI Salon.
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We'll be hanging out in there. The live stream starts then. This is the pre-show. So welcome. Um if you're on LinkedIn or YouTube down
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here in the description of this video is the hyperlink to the AI Salon. You just click on that link. Click. It'll take
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you over there. Spin up that tab. Wait. Oh, US looked like they were making a charge. Uh if you're on X or TikTok in
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my profile is that same hyperlink. I couldn't put it in the description because platforms. Um these platforms all treat you differently.
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As if they're different. Something I talk about a lot. As as an old as an old Gen Xer who used to build websites when social media came out,
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my my attitude with so all social media sites was, well, they're just like tiny websites. So, I never thought of social media
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sites as being different, and I've been educated on that. Thanks to Andy largely, who understands these things. That they actually have
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different personalities, and people treat them differently. I didn't. I'm just an ignorant old man. Um,
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they had a mission, and that mission was accomplished. Yes, I Anthropic I assume you're talking about. They did. Yes. All right, Anita.
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Ah, I always miss your lives. We're here. We're here. So, Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:30 Mountain Time, we go live
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inside the AI Salon. Um, the pre-show happens at 7:10 to 7:30 those same nights, Monday through Friday. This
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Friday, I'm actually taking off. I'm proactively taking off. I rarely do that. Uh, I'm proactively taking off
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Friday night, but I am going to do office hours. All right? So, office hours is at 11:00 a.m. Mountain Time
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um, on Fridays, and then we use usually a Friday night date night, but I'm going to take off and just do holiday weekend stuff. All right?
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Um, okay, 3 minutes over in the AI Salon. So, down in the in the description, click on the hyperlink, go
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to my profile on X or TikTok, click on the hyperlink. >> [music] [music] >> Talk about the uh other things we'll
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talk about tonight. Talk about the new member mixer. We're going to talk about the the AI Salon Ambassador kickoff we had
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today, which is really fun. And yeah, it was a really good day. It's a good day. Fable's back for 7 days we get to play with it, 6 days.
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>> [laughter] >> And so we'll play with that tonight. And then I I don't know what's the date. So it's 3rd, 4th, 5th.
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So Monday's the 6th, Tuesday the 7th. So Monday we'll probably play with Fable again, maybe. I don't know.
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We'll see we'll see how it is tonight. We'll see if we can get it to do anything. Cuz one of the ideas I have, I think it might not do. Um
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>> [music] >> Okay, 2 minutes. I'm going to go get ready. I'm going to take off the guitar. Um I'm going to head over to the AI Salon,
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so join me over there. Um you can go to community.thesalon.ai right there. You can click on the link
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in the description if you're on LinkedIn or YouTube. And if you're on TikTok or X, go to my profile, click on the link
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there. I will see you there in 2 minutes. Peace out. Happy Wednesday.
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