
AI Learning Lab
aiLL 9/27/2023 - From DOS to Conversational AI: How Far We’ve Come and Where We’re Headed

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I reflect on how rapidly artificial intelligence capabilities have advanced, from the early days of computing to today's conversational AI systems like ChatGPT, Claude, and Bard. In this September 27, 2023 broadcast, I trace the evolution of AI, marvel at what today's systems can do, and speculate on where this technology may take us next. I invite you to join me on an informed and balanced look at the risks and rewards of building more human-like AI. See the full session on my TikTok channel AI Learning Lab here: https://tiktok.com/@aiLearningLab #ai #chatgpt #future
Key topics:
0:52 - My first experiences with computers and AI in the 1970s
8:13 - How ChatGPT marks a profound shift in accessibility of AI
16:48 - Comparing today's basic AI to early computer systems like DOS
25:29 - The rapid adoption of ChatGPT, reaching 100 million users in weeks
39:49 - Concerns about security, ethics and regulation of increasingly advanced AI
1:24:37 - Just how early we still are in the evolution of these systems
1:35:16 - AI's potential to transform games, music, movies and more in the near future
1:43:21 - The risks of AI democratizing sophisticated programming abilities to non-programmers
1:47:42 - Big tech companies acknowledging the need for regulation when AI becomes more advanced
1:51:07 - The implications of AI on the advertising industry's business models
1:52:59 - Kyle's perspective that we are still in the very early days of AI, likening it to the Apple II era of computing
1:59:21 - Concerns about the rapid deployment of AI before governments can regulate
2:04:15 - The potential for AI to wreak havoc on the 2024 US elections
2:11:03 - The risks of synthesized AI voices being used for social engineering hacks
2:27:23 - A paper on creating AI agents with memories and personalities as NPCs in games or personal assistants
Chapters
0:00<Untitled Chapter 1>0:52My first experiences with computers and AI in the 1970s8:13How ChatGPT marks a profound shift in accessibility of AI16:48Comparing today's basic AI to early computer systems like DOS25:29The rapid adoption of ChatGPT, reaching 100 million users in weeks39:49Concerns about security, ethics and regulation of increasingly advanced AI1:24:37Just how early we still are in the evolution of these systems1:35:16AI's potential to transform games, music, movies and more in the near future1:43:21The risks of AI democratizing sophisticated programming abilities to non-programmers1:47:42Big tech companies acknowledging the need for regulation when AI becomes more advanced1:51:07The implications of AI on the advertising industry's business models1:52:59Kyle's perspective that we are still in the very early days of AI, likening it to the Apple II era of computing1:59:21Concerns about the rapid deployment of AI before governments can regulate2:04:15The potential for AI to wreak havoc on the 2024 US elections2:11:03The risks of synthesized AI voices being used for social engineering hacks2:27:23A paper on creating AI agents with memories and personalities as NPCs in games or personal assistants
Transcript
0:01 foreign 0:23 good evening welcome welcome welcome 0:28 hey Ted looks at life what's happening 0:29 good to see you 0:33 user 0:36 575-217-03-8542 good to see you nice 0:39 memorable name I like it it's solid 0:41 solid if you had a couple of numbers in 0:44 a row it would have thrown me the fact 0:45 that they're all different they're all 0:47 uh it's with that's Fibonacci Sequence I 0:50 like it solid it's just it's like uh 0:53 it's like a mathematician's dream 0:55 yeah yeah 1:01 what's happening 1:03 what's happening jockster it's going 1:05 down what should I cut 1:07 Lots going on 1:10 the internet is back in chat GPT except 1:12 not in my [ __ ] Chef jpt 1:16 those sons of [ __ ] I got nothing 1:19 everyone's like I can play with images I 1:22 can play with this the internet's back 1:23 and I'm looking at mine it's like 1:29 welcome everyone to the AI learning lab 1:31 this is Larry that's Larry from Larry's 1:34 uh 1:35 Larry's hedgehogs Lawn Lawn Care Service 1:39 Landscaping service 1:42 we made him last night 1:45 um let's see what else we got here what 1:48 else we want to look at yeah we'll be a 1:51 wheel let's see am I late 1:55 AI learning lab this is the AI learning 1:58 lab my name is Kyle Shannon Paul Z what 2:01 is up KS what's going down Bigfoot 2:05 Electro hello from Virginia 2:07 welcome to Virginia 2:11 what was that line it was a line of a 2:13 play I was in 2:14 called The Amazing Adventures of tense 2:16 guy 2:17 oh and one of the actors Mark Ashmore 2:20 he's [ __ ] hilarious he misread one of 2:22 the lines the line was 2:24 um get me Langley Virginia right give me 2:27 the give me the CIA headquarters or FBI 2:31 CIA FBI and he goes he goes get me 2:34 Langley Virginia he thought Virginia was 2:37 like the secretary's name pretty funny 2:40 oh man working on the comics with Dolly 2:44 and mid-journey 2:45 nice do you have do you have access to 2:47 Dolly three yet jockster I don't have 2:50 nothing I got nothing 2:53 gotta have them Winters for for for Bing 2:56 chat jpete 2:58 Chad jpt you know one of the things we 3:01 talk about here in AI learning lab is 3:07 so AI is just like nfts 3:11 except 3:12 if you give send a hundred thousand 3:15 dollars to my to my world ID with in 3:18 World coin and then uh your chat GPT 3:22 you'll make money with this is solid 3:24 gold I made this out of uh nugget a Doug 3:27 in the last Yukon 3:31 all right 3:33 so we'll let some people get in here a 3:35 lot of folks in here I learned about hey 3:37 Jen from you on the previous stream the 3:39 demo blew my mind go check out my latest 3:42 you want to see something really [ __ ] 3:45 wild go check out my latest video in my 3:48 channel is this it no that's not it hang 3:50 on look at this thing this is just this 3:53 is just getting dumb at this point man 3:56 man 3:57 all right look oh wait you can't 4:01 so 4:02 yeah so this is just a Story vine video 4:05 storyvine's my company but then look 4:07 that there's Chinese Mandarin Chinese 4:15 what's this 4:21 is 4:38 now here's one weird thing so notice 4:41 that my hand is inside my face 4:45 because what they're doing is they're 4:47 kind of synthing the lower half of your 4:49 face and then laying it on top of the 4:52 video so so they're not masking out the 4:54 hands if they go over and I'm a hand 4:56 talker so so if I'm gonna if I'm gonna 5:00 record any of these that actually you 5:02 know that I actually use for anything 5:03 other than a demo I need to not do that 5:05 but still even with this it's like 5:07 totally forgivable because it's you know 5:10 it's it's like it's like fully fluent 5:14 Chinese you know with lip movement and 5:17 it sounds like me 5:19 stories 5:38 so that's hey Jen so anyway welcome 5:41 everyone this is the AI learning lab 5:45 and my name is Kyle Shannon and we'll 5:49 get started here so generally what we do 5:51 here if you're new here 5:53 um I'm a little bit about my background 5:55 I'm an entrepreneur of 5:57 I've started enough companies that I'm 5:59 now officially not hireable anywhere 6:03 and my current gig is oh yeah this like 6:06 all story mine tonight right uh I'm the 6:09 founder and CEO of a company called 6:10 storyvine I even have a hat here look 6:13 look see this is 6:17 solid 6:19 um 6:22 so so 6:24 um 6:25 so that's my day job I've been uh kind 6:28 of deep diving into this generative AI 6:30 stuff for about oh I don't know what 6:33 two years now and and ever since chat 6:37 GPT uh I've lost my [ __ ] mind 6:41 so this channel I go live every night 6:43 here I'll answer any questions you have 6:46 um 6:47 this channel is really about the 6:49 inflection point that started on 6:51 November 30th 2022 so the launch of chat 6:53 gbt prior to that point machine learning 6:57 and AI was really the the domain of you 6:59 know data scientists and mathematicians 7:02 and researchers and engineers and after 7:04 that point 7:06 it's for the rest of us to figure out 7:08 like what are we going to do with this 7:10 stuff what are we going to do with these 7:11 tools now that these tools are in our 7:13 hands November 1st marks 7:16 um General availability of Chachi BT 7:19 inside office 365. so you're gonna have 7:21 chat EBT within word and PowerPoint and 7:25 Excel 7:26 um it's already in Windows 11. it's 7:28 already in GitHub co-pilot it's already 7:30 in all the Google uh things not gpt4 7:33 there there's his Bard but all the 7:36 Google office docs have access to this 7:38 thing called Duet which is kind of a 7:39 shitty version of it but it's going to 7:40 get better quick 7:42 um 7:44 chat GPT has gone multimodal where it 7:47 can see images now it can see 7:49 I saw a thing today a guy took a 7:51 screenshot of a computer interface and 7:55 asked chat GPT to analyze the components 7:57 of the computer interface and write the 8:00 code for the different components and it 8:02 did it and it was good 8:04 it's like wow so 8:08 we have no idea zero idea what it means 8:13 to have a tool like chat GPT when it can 8:16 now speak and listen and see and draw 8:20 and make words 8:22 and you know within some short amount of 8:24 time it'll be able to do music and video 8:26 too and you know once once we have all 8:29 of the all of the media 8:32 um you know all bets are off what what 8:34 do we do with that I don't know 8:37 um 8:38 I'm a gen xer look I have an AARP card 8:42 I uh that just came today 8:47 um 8:48 I'm a little bitter 8:50 chat GPT hasn't given me access to the 8:52 new toys yet I flip and advertise their 8:55 their silly little company every night 8:58 for like four months and they don't give 9:00 me access to the new toys really chat 9:02 gbt really 9:04 really I I made a button for you 9:09 nothing 9:11 so anyway 9:13 um if you have questions pop them in the 9:14 comments below I'll do my best to answer 9:16 them I'll go through some of these uh 9:18 some of the if you want to get started 9:20 where to start but but let's just jump 9:21 in and start answering some questions 9:26 Winston joined Dave Winston there's pate 9:31 good to see you sir good day sir good 9:35 day how are you 9:36 well I'm rather fine I do Wonder Mr 9:39 Shannon what are your qualifications no 9:42 well well now we're asking for 9:44 qualifications are we well it's I think 9:46 it's quite reasonable to wonder you know 9:47 if I'm at a learning lab what are we 9:49 learning at the lab and if you're 9:50 teaching at the lab what are your 9:52 qualifications seems a relatively 9:54 straightforward question does it not 9:56 well I suppose for you it does 9:59 all right 10:01 let's let that one hanging right there 10:03 laughs 10:07 all right all right all right I did not 10:10 see your play uh which play I do every 10:14 night here is a play 10:15 oh I learned about hey Jen for me on a 10:17 previous one we talked about that 10:19 started at 38 000 now at 20 000 in the 10:22 queue this free version is really going 10:24 to take four days to run for render I 10:26 got to pay up I know my um my Mandarin 10:29 one the the one I just showed 10:32 I got in it was like 83 000 and I think 10:35 mine took five days so yeah yeah it took 10:38 it took a while I forgot about it and 10:40 then I got an email today this morning 10:42 that said here's your Mandarin 10:44 um yeah I'm gonna pay up for that as 10:46 well because I got I got to do it for my 10:47 company because uh this is this is too 10:50 important technology not to not to have 10:53 not not to be building stuff on 10:58 um so anyway yeah exactly learning how 11:01 important using the right words for 11:03 prompts is yeah it's you know it's it's 11:06 using the right words that you 11:08 have having 11:12 being experimental and having a good 11:14 sense of 11:15 language logic is definitely an 11:18 advantage 11:20 um but one of the things that you can 11:22 either do also do 11:24 um uh Harrow Herod Herod is is one of 11:29 the Irregulars here 11:31 um and and he came on the other night 11:33 and was talking about the fact the other 11:35 thing that you can do is you can have 11:36 chat GPT help you write prompts for 11:39 itself 11:40 so if you're getting stuck on the if 11:43 you're you know if you're getting 11:44 twisted up on the on the language stuff 11:45 and I don't really know how to ask this 11:47 and what to do 11:48 ask Chachi PT how how 11:51 what's the best prompt that you could 11:54 give it to get a certain 11:57 um result 11:58 and let it write the prompt or or you 12:00 write a prompt and say instead of 12:02 answering this prompt I want you to 12:04 critique it and tell me how you would 12:06 improve it to get a stronger answer or a 12:09 more clear answer or whatever that is 12:11 let it write it 12:13 let it write it all right 12:16 this one feels vastly more complex than 12:19 Anglo-Saxon European languages 12:20 impressive I know well that's so so 12:23 that's the thing about 12:25 these the Transformer models and the way 12:28 all of this technology works it's 12:30 [ __ ] magic it's not it's it's all 12:33 mathematics 12:35 um but the result right the Arthur C 12:38 Clarke quote any sufficiently advanced 12:41 technology is indistinguishable from 12:44 Magic 12:45 so they train these models on the 12:48 different languages 12:50 and whether it's word languages or 12:53 spoken languages 12:55 and 12:58 you know or or uh you know voice 13:00 synthesis right or you know music or 13:03 images 13:04 and then when you put in your prompt and 13:06 they marry that large language model to 13:09 that other whether it's a diffusion 13:10 model or or you know the audio stuff 13:13 and it just I don't know 13:16 it mythically pulls the [ __ ] out of The 13:19 Ether mathematically it's it's it's it's 13:21 it's absolutely incredible 13:24 you know it's it's not I think from a 13:27 machine learning point of view 13:28 I don't think I I'm curious if pay 13:32 you're in here 13:33 is is is is training a large line or not 13:37 a large language model is is training a 13:39 machine learning model 13:40 if we're talking about audio you know 13:43 synthesis stuff here is it any harder to 13:45 train it on Mandarin Chinese than it is 13:48 on Italian or it is on English I assume 13:50 it's the same thing 13:52 it's more complicated for us because we 13:56 have these tiny [ __ ] filet mignons in 13:59 our head 14:01 we can't take everything in at once 14:05 oh man mods in Irregulars present 14:09 Turtles 14:10 good evening Irregulars I hope you're 14:12 all well tonight 14:14 curious about this hello Kyle hello 14:16 Apocrypha how are you 14:19 I just started using docchio Turtle Army 14:23 throwing all my privacy concerns out the 14:26 window but I can find files you know I 14:29 listen I'm I'm being careful with my 14:32 with my uh my client data 14:35 um 14:36 but I but at this point I just feel like 14:39 I'm just putting it out there so yeah 14:41 I'm right there with you 14:44 I figure you know I'm not doing anything 14:46 all that particularly interesting right 14:48 now like from from a privacy standpoint 14:51 so like I feel like the value of what 14:55 I'm contributing to the world of machine 14:57 learning and prompt engineering is low 15:00 value enough that you know open AI ain't 15:02 ain't siphoning my ideas off you know if 15:06 that's even a concern right so I you 15:09 know 15:10 this is this is all like everything 15:13 we're doing these days is temporary 15:15 anyway right all the because like like 15:17 as these new models change it's it's 15:19 gonna get 15:20 um 15:21 you know the the thing that that we 15:23 thought was the perfect prompt three 15:26 weeks ago is not is going to be useless 15:29 now because there's it's just a 15:31 completely different thing I keep 15:32 checking my settings here to see if I 15:35 get any extra I got nothing 15:37 I got no I got no brows with Bing I got 15:41 no image upload 15:43 nothing my my uh open AI Chachi PT app 15:47 doesn't have the voice thing in it I got 15:50 nothing people nothing 15:52 anybody here have it anybody here got 15:55 the the extra good and chewy new stuff 15:59 how would we know if we have dally three 16:02 access I don't know policy I'll tell you 16:05 I got the new co-pilot on Startup today 16:08 and it had chosen a turtle for a 16:10 background that's [ __ ] awesome silver 16:13 fox 16:14 that's great so you got very suspect you 16:16 so you got 16:18 um that's co-pilot for Windows 11 right 16:20 I'm curious what that does 16:23 uh oh cool I've been keeping that tab 16:26 open too I was afraid to close it yeah I 16:28 think it's tied to your account and it's 16:30 I assume what they're doing is just sort 16:32 of batching you know batching accounts 16:35 with the with the new you know they're 16:36 probably doing 10 000 Accounts at a time 16:38 you know every 15 minutes they'll do 16:40 another I mean I don't who knows how 16:42 they're rolling that [ __ ] out but that's 16:43 probably what's going on 16:45 qualifications AI picked me out of a 16:49 lineup to study my neural Pathways 16:51 exactly 16:54 um I just booted up not sure yet what's 16:57 up oh okay that's cool 17:02 um but apparently Silver Fox you can do 17:04 things like you know 17:06 put my system into dark mode or don't 17:09 make my system go to sleep you know 17:11 after five minutes make it 15. 17:14 it can do 17:17 all the [ __ ] that you normally have to 17:18 go set up in your settings it'll just go 17:21 do that 17:24 there's a new project out called open 17:26 interpreter which is like code 17:28 interpreter that you can install into 17:30 your system 17:32 and I've installed it in mine but it's I 17:34 haven't really played with it 17:36 I'm waiting I'm waiting for the the kind 17:38 of sexier commercial version of this 17:39 [ __ ] I feel like George drill sergeant 17:43 when I do that Turtle present turtles by 17:47 the way if you're wondering why uh 17:48 people are talking about turtles it's 17:50 because they force me on a nightly basis 17:54 to play 17:56 a video 17:58 oh do I not have internet 18:00 um this looks suspect 18:03 I wonder if my edge browser has crashed 18:08 oh Microsoft 18:12 what just happened 18:16 huh I think I quit it all right Edge 18:28 all right let's see I like 18:35 uh 18:36 [Music] 18:38 this is for all of you 18:41 back here live at the waterfront village 18:43 with my friend the zombie Jonathan 18:45 you're looking good Jonathan just got an 18:47 awesome face paint job what do you think 18:49 I like turtles all right you're great 18:52 zombie and good times here 19:02 not really Kyle which is your turtle 19:04 Army that makes me feel better you 19:07 weirdos y'all weirdos I love it I like 19:11 it I like it I like it all right all 19:13 right all right all right let's see what 19:16 other questions we got here 19:18 do a regulars truly exist if when there 19:21 are no turtles there to perceive them uh 19:24 we don't get that philosophical here 19:25 Winston we can't when we start asking 19:27 questions we don't want to know the 19:29 answer to it goes south really quick 19:32 we just we just we just stumble through 19:34 life here at the AI learning lab we 19:36 don't want to be conscious of anything 19:38 right now 19:39 actually you know that's kind of funny I 19:41 love I love how it makes you giggle 19:43 every time it does you know it's it is 19:46 it is the kid because it's so unexpected 19:49 but it's the reporter trying to keep it 19:51 together that is the thing that just 19:53 busts me up every time okay good zombie 20:00 ah 20:01 you can't that's you can't teach that in 20:03 acting class man that level of 20:06 spontaneity is just that's gold 20:09 all right let's see 20:13 so your hunch is right it's not easier 20:15 ah okay pate it's not easier to 20:18 translate to languages that are related 20:21 yeah so 20:24 so to the machine learning models like 20:26 once these things go into Vector space 20:29 it's actually quite a simple operation 20:32 well I don't know how simple it is 20:33 technically but it's simple conceptually 20:36 you write a prompt and it turns into you 20:40 know 20:41 a probability within this thousand 20:44 Dimension Vector space and some point in 20:47 that Vector space is the highest 20:49 probability thing and whether that's a 20:51 word or whether that's a 20:53 I don't know points to some sort of uh 20:56 noised up image in a diffusion model 21:00 um it just does its thing it's it really 21:03 is remarkable how this Tech works 21:06 is there an art renderer for 3D design 21:09 well there there are some quasi ones 21:13 um and and there have been a bunch of 21:15 white papers on taking objects like 21:18 mid-journey images and turning them into 21:20 3D objects 21:21 there hasn't been like a big like 21:24 mid-journey type tool released yet that 21:27 automatically generates 3D objects that 21:30 I know of what I would do if I were you 21:33 because it's very possible that 21:35 something has been released and I don't 21:37 know about it so if anyone in here knows 21:38 about it something like that let me know 21:41 but what I would do also is go to 21:46 futurepedia.io that's like a list of 21:49 like I don't know it's got to be four 21:51 thousand forty two hundred forty five 21:52 hundred tools at this point those are a 21:54 bunch of AI tools just go there I'm sure 21:57 there's a 3D section or I'm sure there's 21:59 a a something section 22:02 um there are likely applications that 22:05 that 22:06 um let you do natural language input 22:08 that 22:10 um generate 3D objects in a in a program 22:13 like Unity 22:15 that probably exists but if you're 22:17 talking about just make me an apple and 22:19 it makes you an apple like like 22:20 mid-journey but it's a 3D object I don't 22:23 think that's there yet but I could be 22:24 very wrong 22:25 what company do you own sir it is a 22:28 company called storyvine in fact 22:31 I got the little URL right there right 22:34 there it is storevine.com oh yeah 22:38 I bought that in the in the in 1990s 22:43 news Vine was big at the time 22:46 and I had an idea for the company that 22:50 became storybine and I thought storybine 22:52 that's really good and I bought that I 22:55 paid it off over two years 22:58 so 23:00 fancy that 23:02 um 23:03 [Music] 23:06 meta announcements today VR glasses and 23:09 headset oh VR glasses yeah the Ray-Ban 23:12 glasses the headset 23:14 which I can't I cannot believe I heard 23:16 one little clip of the meta thing and 23:19 the dude from meta said we're gonna have 23:22 the world's cheapest spatial Computing 23:25 glasses 23:27 meta used apples terminology 23:32 they were everyone was calling it The 23:34 metaverse 23:36 meta changed their [ __ ] name to meta 23:40 and today a dude from meta 23:44 called 23:45 the thing that those Goggles do spatial 23:49 Computing goggles 23:53 oh my god do they not have a PR for like 23:56 just does Zuckerberg like need a loan 23:59 for a PR firm 24:02 I don't know maybe they cut some deal 24:04 with Apple or something like that but 24:05 that just blew my mind that they did 24:07 that that guy said that 24:09 uh yeah the meta AI assistant and the 24:12 Tom Brady bot and there's like there's a 24:14 yeah they yeah meta today announced all 24:17 these like 24:18 um personality Bots like one is the 24:21 dungeon master and it's Snoop Dogg I I 24:23 don't know that D and D players are 24:26 thinking Snoop Dogg although probably be 24:27 kind of cool to play D D with Snoop Dogg 24:30 but 24:32 oh man I don't know man meta seems like 24:36 they're all over the place I I just I I 24:39 keep every time I see their product 24:41 launches I'm like who is their target 24:44 audience it's like it's like they don't 24:46 have one and it's like our target 24:48 audience is everyone you know here's a 24:51 consumer toy here's this here's that 24:53 here's a piece of important technology 24:56 uh but yeah Big announcements today big 24:58 announcements for meta 25:01 um this Chachi PT stuff's rolling out 25:04 the Microsoft stuff is coming the Gemini 25:06 stuff is coming soon 25:09 um it's gonna be a wild October November 25:12 December I think 25:13 crazy crazy crazy it's gonna be crazy 25:17 um listen if you're new here if you have 25:19 not played with chat GPT 25:22 what we talk about here is generative Ai 25:25 and kind of the the little poster child 25:27 right now 25:29 of that technology is chat TPT 25:33 they're the ones that got this ball 25:34 rolling down the hill really fast so 25:37 chat.openai.com that's the official 25:39 website right there just go there and 25:41 start playing while while I'm rambling 25:43 on here look at Harper Chrome extension 25:46 plug-in for YouTube videos transcript 25:48 and mind map oh I I saw that today I saw 25:52 a tick tock video on that today of 25:53 someone that showed that mind map thing 25:55 yeah it's pretty cool that's pretty cool 25:57 we'll we'll see how uh 26:00 how like once once these tools get 26:02 multimodal and and I have a sneaking 26:05 suspicion that Gemini Google's new bard 26:10 under under engine underbelly I have a 26:13 sneaking suspicion it's going to have 26:14 some pretty tight YouTube Integrations I 26:17 I have a feeling it was trained on 26:18 YouTube 26:19 which is why it's probably really good 26:21 um what do you mean paid it off over two 26:24 years I thought it's a monthly payment 26:25 no no no some dude owned storyvine.com 26:31 and I agreed to pay him seventy five 26:33 hundred dollars and I didn't have 26:34 seventy five hundred dollars so I said I 26:37 forget what I paid him like 200 bucks a 26:40 month for 26:41 I don't know however long it took 26:42 whatever or whatever two years is into 7 26:46 500 bucks 26:48 um 26:49 so yeah that was that that was that I 26:53 forget the name but ten thousand percent 26:54 yes not sure what that's about but cool 26:57 Luna stick hola what's happening 27:05 Zippy zambo good name I like it what's 27:09 the best domain registry to purchase a 27:11 domain name website safely surely I 27:15 don't know I buy my ship from 27:17 GoDaddy or Network Solutions just 27:19 because I'm old Network Network 27:21 Solutions was like this 27:23 quasi-governmental thing for a long time 27:25 and then it turned into that and then 27:27 GoDaddy I hate because it's it it was so 27:32 like commercial and weird for a while 27:33 but it's it's kind of normalized now so 27:36 I don't really [ __ ] around with them I 27:38 bought 27:39 um I bought storyvine.ai from whatever 27:41 the [ __ ] registry you've gotta bait pay 27:45 the 200 bucks for the AI 27:47 top level domain 27:50 um 27:51 I don't know I I'm not big into that 27:54 game I don't I don't know that game at 27:56 all I just I just wanted that domain 27:58 because I had an idea for a company and 28:00 then I went and started the company and 28:01 now it's an 11 and a half year old 28:03 company storybine we've been around for 28:05 a while 28:07 we are out there 28:12 all right oh Zippy zambo that is awesome 28:16 thank you very much I appreciate that 28:19 Meadow throws out lots of stuff hoping 28:22 something will stick to the wall then 28:23 they run with it yeah that makes sense I 28:25 suppose it just it it feels like that 28:27 you know this channel is like chat add I 28:29 feel like meta is like product add it's 28:32 like it's like here's 30 things you want 28:34 one 28:35 uh 28:37 okay 28:39 got Windows 11 co-pilot today it's Bing 28:43 on your toolbar very cool 28:50 all right so here's what I'm gonna do 28:52 I'm gonna go 28:54 I'm gonna walk through some things here 28:55 so if you're new to the channel 28:58 I'm gonna I'm gonna walk you through a 28:59 list of 29:01 tools that I think are worth your time 29:03 to explore 29:05 and if you if you'd be so kind 29:09 um go ahead and share the share their 29:11 lives so we can get the word out there 29:12 too bit more people some more people 29:15 that would be good 29:17 and you know tap the screen if you've 29:19 got some Irregulars in here start 29:22 playing your game see if we can get the 29:23 get some folks in here 29:25 um so so what I'd suggest if you're if 29:28 you're brand new to this stuff 29:29 screenshot I'm gonna go through I think 29:32 it's four or five slides here 29:34 um of just tools that I think are worth 29:36 playing with right now 29:38 um this is what I call the adult table 29:40 so these are the top three tools that 29:42 I'm using pretty consistently now 29:44 although Bard probably not as much I use 29:46 the top two a lot 29:48 uh the top one is chat GPT 29:52 um depending on oh thank you very much 29:55 that was a cool one I don't think I've 29:56 seen that one before 29:58 um depending on if you uh pay for uh 30:01 chat GPT plus you may or may not have 30:04 access to their new 30:06 um chat gptv which is V is for vision 30:09 where it can see stuff you can upload 30:11 images to it 30:13 um 30:14 and they also brought back browse with 30:16 Bing internet connection today so so 30:19 um I don't have I can't show you either 30:21 of those because I don't have them yet 30:23 but 30:25 this is about to get 30:27 um much more sophisticated really 30:29 quickly Claude is by a company called 30:32 anthropic who's a bunch of ex-open AI 30:34 people who started a competitor and they 30:37 just got invested in by Amazon to the 30:40 tune of four billion dollars well 1.4 30:42 billion 1.5 billion with a four billion 30:45 dollar you know a possible total 30:47 investment 30:48 and then Bard is Google's entry into 30:51 this space it's connected to the 30:53 internet and 30:55 they've got this thing coming out called 30:57 Gemini which I assume is going to sit 30:59 underneath that thing and they claim 31:02 it's like five times better than gpt4 31:05 and like eight times bigger and I don't 31:07 know they're they're all swinging there 31:11 we Willie winkies at each other 31:15 mine's bigger than yours though mine's 31:17 bigger than yours well mine can do 31:19 multimodal now mine can do multimodal 31:22 there's a lot of that going on right now 31:23 so the good news is we're the 31:25 beneficiaries of it but it's a little 31:27 exhausting okay so that's that page oh 31:29 and then prompts.chat that's just a 31:31 little document it's like a little 31:32 primer document that talks to you about 31:35 how these large language models work how 31:38 to talk to them it gives you some 31:39 prompts you can copy and paste it'll 31:41 give you a lot of ideas 31:43 um so so that's that stuff 31:44 okay 31:46 um this is what I call the kids table so 31:49 these are are ones that I think are a 31:51 little uh 31:54 less useful on a day-to-day basis but 31:57 still really interesting 31:59 so bing.com is in the doghouse that's 32:02 why it's dark gray and you can barely 32:05 see it 32:06 um because the safety guard rails on it 32:08 just make it a steaming pile of poo 32:10 right now 32:12 um perplexity.ai is a really interesting 32:14 site and service labs.perplexity is free 32:17 hosting of meta's llama 2 models so 32:20 that's worth going and playing around my 32:22 mine looks like a rocket exactly Silver 32:25 Fox exactly mine looks like a rocket 32:28 well I have a very tall rocket I'm 32:30 flying to Mars 32:32 it's exhausting 32:34 um 32:36 Pi Pi dot a I 32:38 um that's a company called inflection 32:40 they just raised 1.3 billion dollars so 32:43 that's going to be a significant player 32:44 if you download the PI app 32:47 um you can put it into conversation mode 32:49 and just talk to it it's connected to 32:51 the internet and you can talk to one of 32:53 these GPT models it's designed for 32:55 conversation it's really interesting for 32:57 that and then Poe is one where you can 33:00 play with multiple models in the same 33:01 interface and it's got a bot maker and 33:04 and so so that's it so those are the 33:06 seven 33:06 large language model things I think are 33:08 worth playing with right now this list 33:11 the you know these two lists 33:14 um are probably going to get shaken up 33:16 here in a week or two because just 33:19 shit's changing 33:21 so that's the that's the word stuff now 33:23 the picture stuff 33:25 um if you want to make pitches 33:27 again this is going to change 33:29 probably in a week this list will not be 33:32 the same so if if you want this list 33:35 screenshot it now because it's gonna go 33:37 away this could be a collector's item we 33:40 could turn it into an nft you can buy an 33:43 nft and then 33:46 exactly you see that's what this channel 33:49 is really about what this really is is a 33:51 multi-level Market I mean a pyramid 33:53 scheme 33:54 and you level up and when you level up 33:57 your downline gets into your up upline 34:00 as your the upline is the in the 34:02 downline and anyway all right 34:05 so 34:07 there's people in here going is this 34:09 really a multi-level marketing scheme oh 34:12 Winston Winston knows how to pay Winston 34:14 knows how to get make it rain in here 34:16 you see what I'm saying 34:18 see what I'm saying this is not this is 34:20 not a game people 34:22 it's not a game 34:24 always be prompting 34:29 I I got nothing tonight just just bear 34:32 with me 34:33 um okay 34:35 um mid-journey in terms of quality is 34:38 the best of these of these image 34:39 generation tools ideogram 34:42 is not great at the image generation but 34:44 it's really good well not really good it 34:47 is the first of these large language 34:49 models that can do words like that 34:51 and that and that and that and that and 34:55 that and that and that all these were 34:57 done in ideogram 34:59 all of the tools 35:01 in AI right now are janky pieces of [ __ ] 35:05 thank you to one of the Irregulars who 35:06 made me that it's lovely 35:08 that was made in ideogram 35:12 um 35:13 leonardo.ai is is a really good 35:15 interface if you want a good powerful 35:17 interface on top of stable diffusion but 35:20 you don't want to figure out how to 35:21 install automatic 1111 in a Google 35:24 collab notebook because you didn't get a 35:27 computer science degree and you're like 35:30 can I just make pictures you can at 35:32 Leonardo 35:35 um heygen.com that's the one that I 35:38 showed earlier that uh you know I'm 35:41 speaking Chinese 35:43 foreign 35:50 .com actually labs.hagen.com and there's 35:54 a video translate tool there 35:56 um and then 35:57 um Adobe Firefly and Photoshop 35:59 generative fill if you've got Creative 36:01 Cloud licenses they have now generally 36:03 released their generative generative AI 36:05 tools so they're available for 36:07 commercial use and they haven't been 36:09 trained on copywritten work so if you're 36:12 in a company if you're in a corporation 36:14 Adobe Firefly and and Photoshop 36:16 generative feeling good 36:18 openart.ai promptbook thank you 36:21 apocryphal Apocrypha 36:24 um thank you very much 36:26 um 36:28 The Prompt book thing there will teach 36:29 you how to talk to these image models 36:32 it's designed for stable diffusion but 36:34 it'll work for all of them because 36:35 they're all basically the same 36:37 technology 36:38 um 36:40 I'm also the one of the co-hosts of a 36:43 thing called the AI Salon which is a 36:45 community of AI adventurers and we've 36:48 got a Discord channel so if if you want 36:50 a place to hang out and talk to people 36:52 that are into this AI stuff and you want 36:55 to ask questions last night at the we we 36:58 have a meeting every two weeks last 37:00 night was our our uh our bi-weekly 37:02 meeting and we launched this thing 37:04 called guilds so they're they're sub 37:06 communities within the salon so we've 37:08 got a writing Guild and a making Art 37:12 Guild and a AI 101 Guild it's really 37:15 cool so go to the salon.ai the links are 37:18 there for that 37:20 um what else oh I've been invited by 37:23 another content creator named Rhonda 37:26 Phillips who's got a community of 37:29 creative professionals she's a voice 37:30 actress and a creative coach 37:32 and so I'm doing a 37:36 um Workshop that actually starts a week 37:38 from tonight called the AI launch pad so 37:41 it's it's a it's a workshop for AI for 37:44 creatives 37:46 um over three weeks it's two hours once 37:48 a week on a Wednesday night starting 37:50 next Wednesday 37:52 and what time is it seven to nine 37:55 Eastern so that's five to seven 37:58 that's five to seven mountain time where 38:00 I am so I'll still I'll still do my Tick 38:02 Tock lives even though I'm doing 38:03 workshops 38:05 um starting next week on Wednesdays 38:08 um and it's gonna be good we're gonna do 38:09 kind of an intro to AI it's the first 38:12 Workshop applying generative AI to your 38:15 business is the second workshop and then 38:17 Advanced AI like you know voice 38:19 synthesis and animation and video and 38:22 things like that is going to be the 38:23 third Workshop so it should be a lot of 38:24 fun so the information's there at 38:26 Rhonda's voice.com events and then what 38:30 else I think that's about it that's good 38:32 that's good that's a good place to start 38:34 if you if you have questions about AI 38:36 pop them in the comments below I'll do 38:38 my best to answer them we've got some 38:39 some mods in here we call them the 38:42 Irregulars they just show up here night 38:44 after night and harass me they don't 38:46 harass me they they they they are 38:48 incredibly supportive and and awesome 38:50 and so thank you all whoever's modding 38:52 tonight thank you for doing that 38:55 um sorry had an add moment had to throw 38:57 some garbage out I'm back 39:01 chat add 39:07 um I like taters taters tasty 39:11 they call it a sling blade 39:14 oh that's Ally That's Ali right there 39:18 Ali the AI learning lab 39:20 she's so cute 39:23 all right we'll put her right there 39:26 ion China good evening Bigfoot Electro 39:29 that's hilarious 39:31 Amway Amway AI exactly exactly this is 39:36 this is the multi-level every time you 39:39 do a prompt every time someone in your 39:41 downline does a prompt you get a tenth 39:44 of a penny now if you just had to make 39:45 10 million prompts you'd have a million 39:48 bucks oh no you wouldn't you'd have a 39:50 hundred thousand I don't know I'm not 39:51 good at math but Chad gbt could tell you 39:54 that 39:59 um 40:01 all right now I just sent out to my 40:04 friends and said not a money thing 40:09 that's really funny and then they come 40:11 in that's it's one of my joys in life is 40:13 is when I do one of my stupid characters 40:15 just knowing that someone is sort of 40:17 flicking through Tick Tock and just 40:18 seeing like how do you work this thing 40:20 March is this is this tick tock on 40:23 foreign 40:25 oh man 40:27 all right let's see it's so exciting to 40:30 see the changes happening so fast pretty 40:31 much daily yeah it's you know I kind of 40:34 feel like 40:37 kind of from mid-july to August things 40:40 kind of stabilized like there weren't it 40:43 wasn't like this daily barrage I feel 40:45 like 40:46 you know January through March we're 40:48 just [ __ ] insane where it was just 40:50 daily daily announcements of just crazy 40:53 crazy stuff and then it lulled for a 40:56 little bit and then May and June got big 40:58 again and then kind of July and August 41:00 it got a little normal and boy 41:04 yeah 41:05 man the uh what's coming like September 41:08 was decently quiet but but you heard we 41:10 started hearing some Rumblings of what 41:12 was going on 41:13 and uh 41:16 yeah I just you know the thing for me 41:19 about about what's going on with all 41:21 these changes is just 41:24 I feel like all of us like myself 41:26 included like I kind of had my head 41:29 around 41:30 okay so so given what these things are I 41:33 kind of get what they are and I kind of 41:35 get where their limitations are and I 41:37 kind of get how I can use them in my 41:38 business 41:40 and now I'm like okay I no longer know 41:43 where the limitations are and no longer 41:45 know where the boundaries are when 41:48 Gemini comes out from Google if indeed 41:50 it's even as good as chat gpt4 much less 41:54 better than chat gbt4 41:56 if it's as good as 41:58 well where is it as good as is it is it 42:02 better at coding is it better at 42:04 language is it better at you know doing 42:06 basic math does it hallucinate less does 42:09 it hallucinate more 42:11 is it is it tightly integrated with 42:14 YouTube which could completely transform 42:16 the kind of applications you could 42:18 create like like so I just feel like you 42:21 know I've mentioned before that I feel 42:23 like the the stage of the industry we're 42:25 at right now is this primordial soup 42:27 right and it's and it's like that thick 42:30 sort of bloop you know and and I think 42:33 we're just like right now we're just 42:34 about to have like one of the bubbles 42:36 sort of come up and go bloop and just 42:38 shoot [ __ ] everywhere and just kind of 42:41 upset upset what what seemed like 42:43 equilibrium for a moment there so yeah 42:46 it's just crazy just crazy so 42:49 um it's one of the other things that I 42:50 talk about a lot on this channel is 42:53 if what you're looking for right now is 42:56 what's the best course I should take or 42:58 what's the best like who's the expert 43:00 who's the this who's there are no 43:02 experts right now like even the workshop 43:03 that I'm going to teach starting in a 43:05 week 43:06 like I'm thinking long and hard about 43:08 what I actually teach there because if I 43:10 teach anything too Tactical 43:12 it's going to be useless in six months 43:15 right but if I teach if it's too 43:17 esoteric and just like you know be Zen 43:20 with with your exploration of AI then 43:23 that's completely useless I I need to 43:25 sort of you know figure out how to how 43:27 to walk that thread but I would say be 43:31 very very skeptical of anyone right now 43:33 that claims to be an expert at this 43:36 stuff no one is an expert at this and 43:38 then on the flip side of that coin if 43:41 you're feeling like oh I'm so far behind 43:43 I don't know what I'm doing and I'm not 43:45 technical that it doesn't matter 43:48 you're not behind we're all behind right 43:51 these these tools are coming at us 43:53 they're coming at us hard 43:55 what they make possible we have no idea 43:59 what five years out looks like much less 44:02 you know even a year out 44:05 um so you're not behind and the whole 44:08 purpose of this channel is just to say 44:10 welcome welcome to the madness it was 44:13 funny I got a I got a direct message 44:15 from someone today that said 44:18 um you know I stumbled on your channel 44:19 and you know I was really resistant to 44:22 AI so like she was in a she was in in 44:24 this sort of demonization place of like 44:26 ai's evil ai's bad and she said she's 44:30 slowly coming around to oh maybe this is 44:32 just a tool and I need to start 44:34 experimenting with it and you know it's 44:36 this isn't so black and white it's not 44:38 black and white these things are 44:40 profoundly powerful and very flawed 44:42 they're there there's things that they 44:44 do really horribly just bad they're just 44:47 not good and then there's other things 44:49 that they do that are face meltingly 44:51 powerful 44:53 the thing about them is that 44:56 as 44:58 as flawed as they are right now 45:01 how they are today is as bad as they're 45:03 ever going to be 45:06 they only get better from here 45:09 so start 45:11 understanding what they are and how they 45:14 work and it will serve you I'm telling 45:16 you I feel like it's the next 18 months 45:20 anyone anyone right we we've had a 45:23 couple of people in here uh more than 45:26 one person that have come in and like 45:27 I'm in retirement but I'm think I'm 45:29 coming out now like I'm into this let's 45:31 let's do something 45:33 like there's a lot of people right now 45:34 rediscovering a passion for something 45:39 because we're at the birth 45:42 of a thing that I think we all 45:44 instinctively know is gonna 45:45 fundamentally transform how we do 45:48 business the definition of work 45:51 the definition of productivity the the 45:55 the it's going to completely upset the 45:57 apple cart in where the value is in the 45:59 value chain 46:03 and so we're all just trying to figure 46:04 it out it's tremendously exciting it's 46:07 tremendously terrifying like I you know 46:10 I 46:12 it's funny you know you talk to some 46:13 people and they're just like absolutely 46:15 scared or they're absolutely pissed off 46:17 and then you talk to other people and 46:18 they're absolutely excited and they're 46:20 all like ah far out it's gonna stay yeah 46:22 I tend to lean more toward that side but 46:25 where I find myself is I'm both right 46:29 like it's like this is tremendously 46:31 exciting and holy [ __ ] is that scary 46:35 what does it mean if the advertising 46:38 industry 46:40 loses the time and materials model that 46:44 their entire industry is founded on 46:47 what does that mean 46:50 I don't know 46:53 does it mean the big holding companies 46:54 right now 46:56 flail if they don't adopt fixed pricing 47:01 Maybe 47:04 how long can they hold on to that model 47:08 of here's 50 copywriters sitting in a 47:11 pen working on your Social Media stuff 47:13 we're going to charge you you know 120 47:15 ah dinosaur that's very good that's very 47:18 very good exactly 47:22 how many Kodak moments 47:24 are happening right now I they're 47:28 happening in universities they're 47:30 happening in companies 47:33 you know the Kodak moment right they 47:35 [ __ ] invented the digital camera 47:41 and the engineers came in and said 47:43 he has a digital camera sirs bah humbug 47:48 pixels we're in the silver halide 47:52 business 47:56 10 years later 20 years later they're 47:58 out of business 48:00 how many moments are gonna happen you 48:03 know 48:04 this year next year the following year 48:07 where 48:08 arrogance and hubris of well we're us 48:11 this won't affect us 48:16 and then some Punky little 48:18 20-somethings or 30 somethings or a pile 48:21 of gen xers are going to get into a room 48:23 together and they're gonna huh what if 48:25 we started a 10 person company 48:28 just to [ __ ] with the ad industry 48:33 you have a bunch of EX ad execs that 48:35 that know how to Market and how to [ __ ] 48:37 with the ad they know where all the soft 48:38 spots are on the armadillo 48:42 I mean sounds kind of fun to me 48:48 and then how many of those 10 person 48:49 shops are going to turn into 100 person 48:51 shops and then 500 person shops and that 48:54 500 person shop 48:56 can do the work at the same or better 48:59 quality than a 50 000 person holding 49:02 company 49:07 everything is relevant that you're doing 49:09 I'm going through the YouTube videos oh 49:11 awesome Obi-Wan yeah so oh that I forgot 49:14 to say that so 49:15 um 49:17 I'm making archives of these lives 49:20 because you know it's funny these these 49:22 are I mean 49:24 they're at least preserving moments in 49:26 history right like like like 49:28 everything before tonight 49:31 um Chachi PT was just text and 49:33 everything from kind of tonight forward 49:35 Chachi pitian just text anymore like 49:39 it's going to be interesting to be able 49:40 to go back and say what were we talking 49:42 about when chat GPT was just text oh 49:44 yeah we were talking about prompt 49:46 engineering that seemed like a big deal 49:47 huh we don't even think about prompting 49:49 anymore now the tool the fairies just go 49:52 off and do our work for us right uh 49:56 madcap thank you Kyle for doing this I'm 49:58 sure you helped much more than you know 50:01 by your 50:04 honesty oh thank you very much I 50:05 appreciate that yeah I try listen I one 50:09 of my pet peeves in life and in business 50:11 is the gratuitous use of Technology 50:14 um I hate it I think the This Crowd 50:20 I just want to smash my phone every time 50:23 I hear that and see that 50:26 um 50:28 you know this this is not this is not 50:30 black and white right now it's not ai's 50:33 great or it's not ai's evil 50:36 and it's not generative ai's perfect and 50:38 it's not these things are gonna it's 50:40 it's not any of that it's just that 50:44 if you pay attention to what the tools 50:46 are doing and how they're doing it 50:49 in my lifetime 50:52 from my understanding of computers I I 50:56 wrote my first line of basic 50:59 in uh 51:01 seventh grade in 51:04 1977. 51:06 and so I kind of knew about computers 51:08 before that and then I got into them 51:10 then 51:13 and everything about everything that I 51:15 know about computers 51:20 requires 51:22 human beings 51:26 to think logically 51:28 about 51:31 how to get the machines to do what they 51:33 want and they have to think of the logic 51:35 and they have to write the logic and 51:37 they have to Branch it and they have to 51:38 do these hierarchies 51:42 and this generative AI stuff is not that 51:47 it's some of How It's trained is a lot 51:50 of that but 51:53 the the fact that we can use our our 51:56 natural language our native languages 51:58 English in my case 52:00 as a programming language 52:03 just changes everything it changes 52:06 [ __ ] everything 52:09 right 52:10 because right now 52:12 right now it doesn't seem like that 52:14 maybe maybe sort of how profound it is 52:17 that you can say you know write me a 52:20 poem or write me a python application or 52:22 write me this or write me that it 52:24 doesn't seem that profound because 52:26 Chachi BT is kind of like this little 52:28 this little you know hermetically sealed 52:31 tool off to the side right we're still 52:34 doing our business and we still think 52:36 about writing papers and writing emails 52:38 and thinking about problem solving in 52:41 our business oh and then maybe I'll go 52:42 over here and play with chat GPT right 52:44 it's this thing off to the side 52:46 as these things get more integrated into 52:48 what we do 52:53 it will increasingly be that you just 52:56 ask for what you want and the machines 52:58 will go do it for you 53:00 and sort of bring you back the results 53:02 and then you just go no 53:04 Bad Bad Robot flick 53:07 or brilliant robot great 53:11 what does that mean 53:14 it's crazy ask ER yeah Sherry Banks I uh 53:17 my first uh computer was a trash 80. 53:21 hang on look I've got a do I have it 53:23 here 53:24 is it that hang on 53:27 let me get the the presentation up 53:32 um 53:33 [Music] 53:44 so this is this is the the beginning of 53:47 uh of another one of these two weeks 53:50 from now 53:51 um 53:52 this is my first day of math class in 53:55 1977. I walked into my classroom and it 53:59 kind of looked like this this is a 54:01 mid-journey representation of a 1970s 54:04 classroom with a computer on every desk 54:06 and on the desks were trash 80s that 54:10 that model right there with the Dual 54:12 floppy drives and the orange the the 54:14 orange on button 54:16 and the big giant clackety keys 54:19 and the first thing that we learned was 54:22 L print which you could print a line of 54:24 text to screen and my buddy Scott 54:26 buchart and I we made an animation of 54:29 ASCII art of a Rocket taking off back to 54:32 back to Rockets right mine looks like a 54:34 rocket 54:35 um we made an animation of an ASCII 54:38 rocket it was like a Saturn V like you 54:40 know scrolling up on the screen and then 54:41 the plumes of fire came out at the 54:43 bottom we were so proud of that and it 54:45 was one command we learned one command 54:47 and we were making cool animations with 54:50 it 54:51 um 54:52 and yeah and this was I I mean the the 54:55 thing that I was acutely aware of when I 54:57 was in seventh grade 55:00 was that 55:02 that machine as I learned with that 55:04 machine did I like what hit me was oh 55:07 [ __ ] this is like the printing press 55:10 and 55:12 I'm just too young to have been in on 55:15 the ground floor of that because 55:18 you know Steve Jobs and Wozniak were on 55:21 the cover of you know Newsweek and Time 55:24 Magazine and Bill Gates and the team at 55:27 Microsoft was was you know doing their 55:30 thing and I was in seventh grade and I 55:32 was like oh man I just missed like I 55:34 could have I could have been somebody I 55:36 could have been a player 55:38 and and that it like it broke my heart 55:40 and then and then I didn't think I'd see 55:42 another one of those in my lifetime 55:44 because I knew that 55:46 that these things don't come along very 55:50 often right the printing press was 55:52 whatever it was 500 years before more 55:55 than that 55:57 um 55:59 and it made me really sad and then in 56:02 1994 I stumbled on this thing called the 56:04 world wide web and I published 56:06 an online magazine 56:09 in my apartment in Brooklyn 56:11 and three weeks later 56:14 there was a full page article written 56:16 about it in Paris in Liberation on the 56:19 Parisian News Daily 56:21 and 56:23 I had I had I just I had an epiphany of 56:26 holy [ __ ] the world just changed and 56:29 holy [ __ ] the World Wide Web is like 56:33 this like this PC moment 56:36 and so I went all in on the world wide 56:39 web stuff and I co-founded agency.com 56:41 and I it was a crazy crazy time and I 56:45 didn't think I'd see 56:47 it again in my lifetime and then I 56:49 played with chat GPT and I was like holy 56:51 [ __ ] here it is again 56:54 there's like three of these in my 56:55 lifetime like I I if if you if you are 56:59 not acutely aware how lucky you are to 57:02 be 57:05 able to play with this stuff in this 57:07 moment it's it's an amazingly rare thing 57:09 and this one in particular 57:12 this is going to make the invention of 57:14 the personal computer and the world wide 57:17 web and the iPhone all of them seem 57:19 quaint right because this is just it's 57:22 the way this stuff is using the computer 57:24 is just a fundamentally different thing 57:26 so it's crazy 57:28 so anyway listen listen it's just not 57:32 that many of us in here tonight don't 57:34 tell anyone I get this cuckoo with this 57:36 stuff 57:37 he seems very obsessed with it did you 57:39 notice that I think he's a little 57:41 touched do you think so too do you think 57:44 so I don't think it's healthy I don't 57:45 think it's healthy I think you think 57:47 this is religion do you think he thinks 57:49 it's God oh I don't know he might 57:52 thank you 57:55 I'm sharing some deep gems some deep 57:58 something 58:00 lucky discs I had a TRS-80 with cassette 58:03 oh wow yeah that that looks good you 58:05 remember these 58:07 side quest drives 58:09 huh 58:11 oh yeah Urban desires that was my online 58:14 magazine 58:15 I think this is a 40 megabyte 58:20 it's a classic 58:26 [Music] 58:29 ours were IBM 5150s well you know what's 58:32 funny Clint so I had TRS 80s in seventh 58:36 grade and then my buddy Scott buchart 58:39 his dad was in real estate so he had a 58:40 lot of money so he had a he had an apple 58:42 II and then he had a Lisa he bought his 58:46 dad a Lisa for the real estate business 58:48 it was a ten thousand dollar computer 58:50 that was like a really giant shitty 58:53 Macintosh 58:55 so he had a Lisa and then when the first 58:57 Mac came out you know he and I were 58:59 playing on the Mac and we had modems and 59:01 we were calling up you know 59:03 um 59:05 it was cool you could you could call up 59:07 computer systems that didn't have any 59:09 Security on them you could just download 59:10 lists of phone numbers so I remember my 59:13 my only actual hacking experience we got 59:16 one of those lists and and basically you 59:18 would you would get one of those lists 59:20 and then you would just have the 59:21 computer just randomly call phone 59:24 numbers until it hit a phone number 59:26 where it logged into a computer and so 59:29 we did that and we logged into the 59:31 control system of a mall in North 59:34 Carolina 59:37 and we you know dug through the menu 59:39 systems and we turned the heat up to 99 59:41 and we reverse the escalators we 59:44 reversed the direction of the escalators 59:46 so ah those were good times all right I 59:51 had chat wait I tell chat GPT to make my 59:54 email casual professional and I've been 59:57 100 satisfied with the outcome yeah it's 59:59 great at that stuff it's also good if 1:00:01 you haven't tried it silver fox 1:00:03 um if you've got an email that you've 1:00:06 written or anything that you've written 1:00:07 that you're really happy with you know 1:00:09 paste paste it in there as an example 1:00:10 and just say follow the tone and 1:00:12 structure of that other thing I wrote 1:00:14 it's really good at that as well we 1:00:17 still use Fortran 77 in the HPC world 1:00:19 yeah yeah yeah I know well and that's 1:00:22 another place where these where the the 1:00:24 large language models you know because 1:00:26 you've got all these computer languages 1:00:27 that are that are fading where you where 1:00:29 you have you don't have expertise for 1:00:31 people that can do Fortran and and 1:00:34 Cobalt and things like that in these old 1:00:36 Mainframe systems that are still still 1:00:38 out there 1:00:39 um you know I think the the the ability 1:00:42 to 1:00:44 um refactor code or just to even 1:00:46 understand and document code 1:00:49 um that may be of a previous era could 1:00:52 be really really powerful 1:00:55 I hope my persistence comes off as 1:00:57 nothing short of professional absolutely 1:01:01 schedule a call yeah drop me a line 1:01:03 happy to do it happy to chat 1:01:05 um compact portable the size of a sewing 1:01:07 machine I don't think I owned 1:01:11 did I own the the Mac 1:01:14 they called it the luggable 1:01:16 I don't think I owned one but I think 1:01:18 some place I worked had one so I carried 1:01:20 one around a couple of times those those 1:01:22 [ __ ] were heavy 1:01:23 they were really heavy and the screens 1:01:26 were really dim they weren't back 1:01:27 backlit I think they were if they were 1:01:30 backlit it was like with a with like a 1:01:32 Bic lighter this is pretty bad 1:01:37 um we had apples in fifth grade very 1:01:39 cool yeah that I mean the Apple II was 1:01:41 was they did really good stuff in 1:01:43 education I guess Apple's still doing 1:01:44 good stuff in education but they kind of 1:01:47 owned that market for a good while 1:01:51 um Lan parties oh yeah 1:01:54 all right that's what I that's what I do 1:01:56 I'm the email Queen oh that's great 1:01:57 that's awesome toe dance where can I 1:01:59 find better prompts to get my 1:02:01 mother-in-law to act more like a human 1:02:05 actually you know what you can probably 1:02:07 do is is you could say here's the issues 1:02:09 I'm having with my mother-in-law give me 1:02:11 give me some strategies to uh to uh to 1:02:15 win her over 1:02:17 or be able to tolerate her that's really 1:02:20 funny uh 1:02:25 um 1:02:26 Dr J it passed the Kyle test and he's a 1:02:28 cgo so that that's a that's a funny 1:02:31 thing so 1:02:33 one of my titles right now is I'm a 1:02:35 chief generative officer which sounds 1:02:37 very [ __ ] impressive doesn't it 1:02:39 um I like it it's a it's a title that 1:02:41 makes me happy it's for a uh 1:02:44 an organization called content Evolution 1:02:46 which is a sort of a loose Federation of 1:02:48 marketing companies that are just kind 1:02:50 of there to co-market with one another 1:02:52 but I built I built something for 1:02:54 Content Evolution if you go to 1:02:56 contentevolution.net on the home page of 1:02:59 contentevolution.net is is this thing 1:03:01 called the uh challenge engine so you 1:03:04 give it a business Challenge and then 1:03:05 it'll generate a series of strategic 1:03:08 questions that you should be asking 1:03:10 yourself to solve that problem 1:03:12 and so along with some other folks in 1:03:15 content Evolution we built that tool and 1:03:17 so when we delivered that tool the guy 1:03:20 that runs content Evolution goes I'm 1:03:22 going to promote you to Chief generative 1:03:23 officer I'm like I'm in so 1:03:27 so I think I'm the first Chief 1:03:28 generative officer on the planet 1:03:32 you didn't think I had qualifications 1:03:34 cgo baby 1:03:38 amateurs amateurs you think I'm just an 1:03:41 ex-actor 1:03:42 it's I am 1:03:44 [Laughter] 1:03:49 cheers 1:03:53 all right let's see let's say say let's 1:03:57 get some more questions going here 1:03:58 tandy1000 HX love it the Osborne one I 1:04:01 remember that thing 1:04:03 swear it was a sewing machine case it 1:04:05 probably was you know what my my my lust 1:04:08 machine 1:04:10 when I was in seventh or eighth grade I 1:04:12 wanted the Timex Sinclair I think it was 1:04:15 a thousand CX it was a computer that was 1:04:18 about this big and it had a membrane 1:04:20 keyboard on it 1:04:21 it was here I can probably go find one 1:04:23 we have the internet 1:04:26 time x 1:04:28 Sinclair 1000 yeah man 1:04:32 and it was like it was like 129 dollars 1:04:35 and it was like that was way out of my 1:04:37 [ __ ] price range 1:04:40 [Music] 1:04:42 look at that bad boy look at how cool 1:04:44 that thing was 1:04:47 wait 1:04:50 see it had it it had all these shapes on 1:04:53 the key so you had the letters but you 1:04:54 had all these shapes that you could do 1:04:56 ASCII art with and then it had all this 1:04:58 other [ __ ] like all this programming 1:05:00 [ __ ] 1:05:01 and it was all just in this tiny little 1:05:03 box come on 1:05:07 that was a [ __ ] future man 1:05:10 never got one I should buy one now 1:05:12 except with my 80d I'll probably spend 1:05:15 like three months like just hyper 1:05:17 focusing on it and 1:05:19 just waste my life away so it's good I 1:05:22 don't have one 1:05:24 Timex Sinclair from the drugstores 4K 1:05:27 extra external RAM module exactly 1:05:30 jockster this is the link you're looking 1:05:33 for what is it 1:05:36 oh yeah 1:05:42 when you're ready to travel Macintosh 1:05:45 can easily go along 1:05:46 the durable carrying case Has Fallen 1:05:50 your Macintosh keyboard mouse manuals 1:05:53 and so on 1:05:57 even fully loaded the carrying case is 1:06:01 light enough to go anywhere you go hey 1:06:03 dang it 1:06:05 holes 1:06:08 um 1:06:13 come on 1:06:20 oh come on 1:06:22 it ain't working now 1:06:25 is it 1:06:27 and when you're ready to travel 1:06:29 Macintosh can easily go along the 1:06:32 durable carrying case is strong and 1:06:34 waterproof 1:06:35 your Macintosh keyboard mouse manuals 1:06:38 and software all fit neatly inside it's 1:06:41 like a cooler 1:06:46 [Laughter] 1:06:49 the carrying case is light enough to go 1:06:51 anywhere 1:06:52 [Laughter] 1:06:57 oh man 1:06:59 that's awesome 1:07:03 uh 1:07:05 you had Clint had the Timex Sinclair 1:07:07 okay I hate you Clint I'm jealous of you 1:07:10 in retrospect 1:07:12 did you ever see the Microsoft Excel 1:07:14 elevator commercial now I didn't 1:07:17 um optional audio cassette interface oh 1:07:19 man you were you were you were [ __ ] 1:07:21 loaded man you had all the toys 1:07:24 could fit that on a plane with you for 1:07:28 AI assisted encoding like copilot and 1:07:30 others how well do they protect company 1:07:32 code and IP ah so joaquim I think it's 1:07:35 Joachim or Joachim Joachim or Joachim 1:07:40 um 1:07:46 offend your audience in one easy step 1:07:48 with Kyle Shannon 1:07:50 um so listen Joachim 1:07:52 um 1:07:55 with these tools right now unless they 1:07:59 explicitly say it in writing like a 1:08:02 legal document 1:08:05 assume that all of these things have no 1:08:08 privacy and security 1:08:10 if you've got to send your data to Bing 1:08:13 or to open AI or to 1:08:16 Google bard or wherever just assume that 1:08:19 it's not secure 1:08:21 um 1:08:23 chat EPT has a new thing called chat GPT 1:08:25 Enterprise where they're starting with 1:08:27 people that can spend 10 or 15 grand a 1:08:29 month and then it'll come down to to us 1:08:31 plebes at some point 1:08:34 um 1:08:35 or if you do a standalone instance on 1:08:37 Microsoft Azure or something on AWS 1:08:41 where you know you've got a hermetically 1:08:43 sealed environment where you're you're 1:08:45 running these large language models you 1:08:47 know in some sort of thing 1:08:48 assume that assume that the sort of 1:08:52 consumer versions of these things are 1:08:54 not secure and so does it mean you can't 1:08:56 use them no it doesn't but but what it 1:08:58 might mean is you go through and 1:09:01 de-personalize a document so maybe 1:09:03 you've got a legal document and instead 1:09:05 of the person's name you put in Mickey 1:09:07 Mouse right and you know you you take 1:09:10 out real addresses and then you go 1:09:12 process the document like that so so 1:09:15 that's anything that I'm doing that 1:09:16 involves client data I'm depersonalizing 1:09:19 it if I'm dealing with anything that is 1:09:21 not in a standalone hermetically sealed 1:09:23 thing so I would I would just assume 1:09:27 um 1:09:28 just assume it's not safe assume it's 1:09:31 not secure because otherwise you'll end 1:09:33 up like that group out of Japan and 1:09:35 Samsung where they they put a bunch of 1:09:37 stuff up on chat CPT and it got it got 1:09:41 snacked up by the community who 1:09:44 hackers gonna hack 1:09:47 and so yeah 1:09:48 so 1:09:52 [Music] 1:09:55 I am the oldest before color TV there 1:09:58 was a show to put plastic over the 1:10:01 screen and color over black and white 1:10:03 yeah I remember that it was a Magnavox I 1:10:05 had 1:10:06 my stepdad got that system the Magnavox 1:10:10 Odyssey 1:10:11 and we had like a 27 inch like one of 1:10:14 those big console TVs it was like a 27 1:10:17 inch TV which was Giant at the time 1:10:19 because it was a tube 1:10:21 right and it had all the the election 1:10:23 like it would it would literally shock 1:10:25 you if you walked up to it because it 1:10:27 was just a giant like Tesla coil just 1:10:29 basically ready to electrocute you at 1:10:32 any moment and then yeah the the 1:10:34 Magnavox 1:10:35 Odyssey video game for like the duck 1:10:38 shooting game 1:10:39 you'd put the big piece of plastic it 1:10:42 would static electricity to this Tesla 1:10:44 coil TV and then the sky would be blue 1:10:48 and the water would be you know the the 1:10:50 grass would be green on the bottom it's 1:10:52 [ __ ] awful 1:10:56 and like the controllers would be like 1:10:57 clack clack clack 1:11:03 oh my God 1:11:05 remember so all there's there's enough 1:11:07 gen xers in here one of my one of my 1:11:10 great 1:11:11 um 1:11:12 one of my Great disillusionment Moments 1:11:15 you know you there's those moments where 1:11:17 you grow up right so so this was in the 1:11:20 kind of late 70s early 80s you know you 1:11:23 had arcades you know like physical 1:11:26 arcades where you'd go to a building 1:11:27 with machines in it and you put quarters 1:11:29 in it and you play video games 1:11:31 and then the Atari 2600 came out 1:11:35 and they're like oh it's so exciting and 1:11:37 you can play video games at home and 1:11:38 it's like the arcade experience at home 1:11:40 and then they made the boxes 1:11:43 the artwork on the boxes looked like the 1:11:46 [ __ ] arcade games and then you'd get 1:11:48 the game home and it was like six blocks 1:11:50 bouncing around scream and you're like 1:11:53 this isn't this isn't an arcade game and 1:11:57 it was just like I kept I kept getting 1:11:59 suckered into buying 1:12:02 Atari 2600 games because someone would 1:12:05 come out with clever box art and I'd go 1:12:07 maybe this one's different and I look at 1:12:09 the back and I'm like yeah this one's 1:12:11 gonna be better when I go play it no 1:12:13 it's still just shitty arcade games 1:12:19 oh man 1:12:21 my first Mac came with one megabyte of 1:12:24 ram I uploaded upgraded to two megabytes 1:12:26 for five grand so my first Mac it was a 1:12:30 512 ke 1:12:32 and I think it was my buddy Scott 1:12:33 buchart the guy that that 1:12:35 um you know he and I did computer stuff 1:12:37 as a kid 1:12:39 um 1:12:40 he had a five megabyte hard drive and it 1:12:44 was actually it's funny I've got a box 1:12:45 right here that my lights on it was a 1:12:48 five megabyte hard drive this was about 1:12:50 the size of it and it was this steel 1:12:52 enclosure right it was a multi-planner 1:12:55 thing it's a five megabyte hard drive I 1:12:58 think he sold it to me for 200 bucks I 1:13:01 think he paid like 1500 for it and I 1:13:04 think he upgraded to like a 50 megabyte 1:13:06 hard drive and so I had I had a Mac 512 1:13:10 ke with an external hard drive I was 1:13:12 like baller man like yeah I got the 1:13:15 system 1:13:17 then I upgraded to an se30 with the 1:13:19 color monitor I don't [ __ ] around 1:13:25 oh man it's crazy and I like for AI 1:13:27 assistant coding how well do they 1:13:29 protect yep we talked about that 1:13:32 Microsoft can close your account and 1:13:35 your documents are lost 1:13:38 wait what 1:13:40 what is that in reference to 1:13:44 oh oh if they close your GitHub if 1:13:46 you're talking about GitHub co-pilot 1:13:47 yeah I assume so if if they should if 1:13:50 they if you do something that violates 1:13:52 their terms of service and they shut it 1:13:54 down yeah 1:13:55 so all these CL all these cloud services 1:13:58 are like that right if they if they go 1:14:00 down like when what was it the the flick 1:14:04 flicker was it flicker the the photo one 1:14:06 that went out of business and everyone's 1:14:09 [ __ ] photo libraries were all just 1:14:11 [ __ ] to bed you could easily get into 1:14:14 trouble with your company if you upload 1:14:15 any code yeah exactly yeah just with all 1:14:19 this stuff assume it's assume it's 1:14:20 dangerous until it's not 1:14:22 um 1:14:23 especially if you work for a big company 1:14:26 um you know wait for your it Department 1:14:28 to have to either create a Sandbox for 1:14:30 you 1:14:31 or do 1:14:33 work 1:14:35 tangential to what you do officially on 1:14:38 a computer that's not a work computer 1:14:40 just so you can learn this [ __ ] if you 1:14:42 don't have you know official places to 1:14:44 play I did a workshop for a big 1:14:47 um uh Energy company not an energy 1:14:50 company battery company 1:14:53 um 1:14:55 a couple of months ago and it was for 1:14:58 their Marketing Group and the IT the IT 1:15:00 department basically installed you know 1:15:02 a special secure version of chat GPT and 1:15:07 Bing and like all the like the Microsoft 1:15:10 version of chat GPT 1:15:12 um just for the marketing part 1:15:14 department to do this Workshop but they 1:15:16 had access to it they you know it was 1:15:18 blessed by it and things like that so if 1:15:20 you've got that cool but just assume 1:15:22 it's a mess 1:15:23 let's see that's interesting I asked 1:15:25 about cleaning up my CRM a few nights 1:15:27 back using GPT oh yeah oh yeah Paulie z 1:15:32 um 1:15:32 hang on 1:15:33 to organize my CSV file so 1:15:37 come on 1:15:38 oh wait someone could someone re-pin 1:15:40 that because I I couldn't read the 1:15:42 second half of the thing because of tick 1:15:44 tock's wonderful interface they've 1:15:46 they've got icons that are literally 1:15:48 like three pixels wide and like you have 1:15:51 to wait there it is organize my CS5 so I 1:15:54 probably got 1:15:56 probably shouldn't do this a 1:16:00 um oh 1:16:10 I don't know enough about how 1:16:13 um code interpreter works 1:16:17 um 1:16:18 it's now called Advanced data analytics 1:16:20 but I'm pretty sure 1:16:22 that 1:16:26 when you fire up code interpreter in 1:16:29 chatpt it's it's it's gen it's uh it's 1:16:33 creating a container 1:16:34 so it's basically creating a little 1:16:37 hermetically sealed 1:16:39 um operating environment where it's 1:16:42 running all that python code so I don't 1:16:44 know that any of that's getting sent 1:16:46 back out but I don't know pay Pate might 1:16:48 know that more than I do 1:16:51 um 1:16:55 yeah I don't know I don't know if 1:16:59 if it's CRM data 1:17:05 I don't know I don't know that that's 1:17:07 that's a 1:17:12 you know 1:17:13 here's the deal policy I would go to how 1:17:17 big is your company what's your 1:17:18 tolerance for risk what's their 1:17:20 tolerance for risk if it's just if it's 1:17:22 a small organization and it's and it's 1:17:24 your company and you're like well if you 1:17:27 know someone gets this information like 1:17:29 is that gonna be 1:17:31 catastrophic or is it going to be like 1:17:33 well it would suck but it's actually 1:17:34 kind of fine then like it's a call you 1:17:37 got to make 1:17:38 um 1:17:39 but I would I would I would 1:17:42 research how how code interpreter 1:17:46 actually works because my understanding 1:17:48 of it is it's running inside a container 1:17:51 in in sort of a like a temporary little 1:17:53 Run State 1:17:55 um that's doing all of that processing 1:17:57 so I don't think it's sending a bunch of 1:17:59 stuff out but I could be very wrong so I 1:18:01 I don't don't listen to me on that do 1:18:04 some research on that and then you need 1:18:06 to figure out where your risk tolerance 1:18:07 is so 1:18:09 yeah yeah 1:18:10 all right all right all right all right 1:18:14 all right 1:18:15 20 megabyte hard drive four megabyte Ram 1:18:18 no modem yeah 1:18:22 they have to wait they have new terms of 1:18:24 service valid from November who do open 1:18:27 AI does mantred 1:18:31 um vintage Visionary good I love that 1:18:34 name it's 10 out of 10 name 1:18:36 I bought an early 512 added a monster 1:18:38 Mac conversion yep nice that's solid 1:18:44 um 1:18:47 [Music] 1:18:55 bite magazine just for the free game 1:18:57 code each month yep I remember that 1:19:03 um 1:19:05 [Music] 1:19:05 um 1:19:13 oh it's Joe 1:19:15 Joe Kim ah okay cool but I'm not 1:19:18 offended I'm the same age as you gen Z 1:19:21 cool 1:19:22 um Joachim cool 1:19:25 um oh it is so so I said Joe a Chim it's 1:19:27 go 1:19:28 Joe a Kim cool that's a cool name 1:19:33 um 1:19:33 but yeah depending on where you're from 1:19:35 could easily be Joaquin but Joe Kim 1:19:37 that's cool Microsoft can punish you for 1:19:39 the content of your documents oh that's 1:19:41 interesting 1:19:43 I suppose I suppose anyone can right I 1:19:46 mean Tick Tock does they boot me off 1:19:47 this thing I've been booted off this 1:19:49 thing three times 1:19:50 because I because I said some code word 1:19:52 if there's certain code words where 1:19:54 you're just like I'm talking merrily 1:19:56 along and it's like zap you're gone for 1:19:59 a week 1:20:06 oh Gen X I mean yeah I figured I figured 1:20:10 that all right let's see let's see if 1:20:13 you wrap something they do not like grow 1:20:15 up when exactly Joker My Pal owns a 1:20:19 ginormous arcade with all the old games 1:20:21 it's so rad oh that's so cool Bruno yeah 1:20:23 it's those old arcade games are just the 1:20:26 best I mean they they just had such good 1:20:28 playability and 1:20:30 like like as much as I respect the new 1:20:34 you know 3D environments and all that 1:20:36 exciting stuff there's something about 1:20:37 just 1:20:39 like the speed and quality of like 1:20:41 centipede 1:20:42 and then millipede and 1:20:45 you know missile defense and asteroids 1:20:48 like asteroids the gameplay of asteroids 1:20:51 was so pure and it was like you just 1:20:53 became one with that machine 1:20:55 those were those were cool days 1:20:58 and it was like and it was it you know 1:21:00 that's it it's funny why arcades died is 1:21:04 because the home consoles got as good as 1:21:06 them right you didn't need in like in my 1:21:09 day in my day you had to go to the 1:21:12 arcade to have a good video game 1:21:14 experience you know the one at home was 1:21:16 like this sad depressing Wonka 1:21:19 bad thing and then you go to the arcade 1:21:22 and it's like 1:21:24 amazing 1:21:27 I remember typing in games and basic 1:21:29 from magazines into my Atari 400 that's 1:21:31 awesome 1:21:33 hahaha 1:21:36 um 1:21:42 [Music] 1:21:44 that's interesting I asked about oh yeah 1:21:46 that's right okay 1:21:50 um 1:21:52 [Music] 1:21:55 Missile Command and Dragon's Lair 1:21:57 Dragon's Lair Dragon's Lair was one of 1:21:59 the most frustrating games in the 1:22:00 history of video gaming 1:22:03 because all the other video games had 1:22:06 you know zero latency or like very 1:22:09 little latency and Dragon's Lair 1:22:12 you you had to hit the moves right but 1:22:15 there was like that half second delay so 1:22:17 you'd sort of like go up up left right 1:22:20 up and then and then it would go 1:22:23 and then and then it would play whatever 1:22:26 part of the laser disc it played 1:22:28 I mean it was really cool to look at but 1:22:30 the gameplay on it was so [ __ ] 1:22:32 frustrating because of that delay well 1:22:34 it's you know what's funny the um 1:22:37 all of the talking chat Bots right now 1:22:40 the the ones that are you know like like 1:22:42 pie and and whatever the chat CPT One's 1:22:45 Gonna Be that half second delay in them 1:22:47 is is is almost that identical weird 1:22:50 delay that Dragon's Lair had 1:22:53 and like that'll go away like that that 1:22:54 latency is going to go away probably 1:22:56 pretty quick but 1:22:59 but it's it's weird right now 1:23:02 you know what's funny I'll tell you what 1:23:04 here's where we are it's funny we're 1:23:06 talking about all this video game [ __ ] 1:23:09 we are in 1:23:12 let's see not that 1:23:19 this is kind of the the Apple II you 1:23:23 know PC Junior 1:23:26 kind of you know State like we're we're 1:23:29 at such an early stage of this like this 1:23:32 isn't even the Macintosh hit like this 1:23:34 is like the Apple II and maybe the the 1:23:37 multimodal version that can see and 1:23:39 generate images with Dolly three is 1:23:41 gonna be like the Macintosh right but 1:23:44 maybe not like maybe it's like it goes 1:23:47 from like the Apple II to to I don't 1:23:49 know 1:23:50 it's it's still kind of command lining 1:23:52 and weird right now 1:23:54 and that's that's the stage we're at 1:23:56 with this stuff so if we you know you 1:23:58 think back on how far computers have 1:23:59 come 1:24:01 since those really nostalgic early days 1:24:04 of you know your computer had to call 1:24:06 another computer I remember when when my 1:24:09 buddy Scott had a 300 baud modem you 1:24:11 could actually you know sort of watch it 1:24:13 you know type [ __ ] across the screen and 1:24:15 then we got a 1200 baud modem and it was 1:24:18 like you couldn't keep up with it and 1:24:19 then when you got you know 56k it was 1:24:22 just like 1:24:24 and it's like that's kind of the stage 1:24:25 we are with these things right now 1:24:27 they're kind of like 300 baud modem text 1:24:29 interfaces 1:24:32 and like think about you know a PS5 1:24:34 today versus that [ __ ] well what's going 1:24:38 to be the PS5 version of that 1:24:42 [ __ ] 1:24:46 I mean the PS5 version of that is going 1:24:49 to be make me a movie that's exactly 1:24:52 what I want it to be make me a video 1:24:54 game make me an immersive 1:24:57 anti-anxiety environment that I can 1:24:59 enter right now 1:25:01 I've got 12 minutes to to get my 1:25:04 amygdala unhijacked go 1:25:11 it's like being in the Dos days of AI it 1:25:13 is it's this is yeah we're in that we're 1:25:17 in Das 1:25:19 it's like what so look it's a experience 1:25:22 but but let's let's go look at something 1:25:26 um the best image generation tool right 1:25:30 now is mid-journey you have to you have 1:25:33 to make images in this thing called 1:25:35 Discord which has got like all these 1:25:37 like server these are like bulletin 1:25:39 board systems and then within each of 1:25:41 your little bulletin board systems you 1:25:43 have your stupid little text channels 1:25:45 and all these little text channels have 1:25:47 their little talky talk and people talk 1:25:49 about their crap 1:25:50 and then in here you have a mid-journey 1:25:53 channel 1:25:54 and and what do you do to make an image 1:25:56 slash imagine right slash your magic so 1:26:00 you have to know the 1:26:03 command line to make an image and then 1:26:05 prompt what do you say here I don't know 1:26:07 I'm gonna say uh uh let's see uh a 1:26:13 photo 1:26:14 of 1:26:16 let's see a 1:26:19 um prehistoric 1:26:22 Hedgehog 1:26:25 on a plateau 1:26:31 um 1:26:32 Ansel atoms 1:26:35 and then I get I'm going to do dash dash 1:26:38 AR 1:26:40 check this out dash dash 1:26:43 ar16 colon 9. 1:26:48 what's that stand for 1:26:50 aspect ratio 16 9 what's that that's the 1:26:54 size of a of a QuickTime movie how do I 1:26:57 know that because I'm a geek that like 1:27:00 the fact that we're having to make 1:27:01 [ __ ] images with command line 1:27:03 interfaces we are absolutely in in the 1:27:06 Dos era of AI right now this is just 1:27:09 [ __ ] stupid 1:27:11 laughs 1:27:13 what's what's the uh what's Ye Old AI 1:27:17 learning lab uh um term janky pieces of 1:27:23 [ __ ] 1:27:23 now we're gonna don't get me wrong 1:27:26 they're still remarkable we're gonna 1:27:27 look back fondly on these days and like 1:27:29 remember when you had to type in command 1:27:30 lines to make a picture 1:27:32 but there you go 1:27:35 it did it and they're fun they're good 1:27:38 look at that one I like that one let's 1:27:40 do the let's do the one in the little 1:27:42 frame 1:27:44 we'll upscale him 1:27:48 I won't bow 1:27:51 look at that 1:27:54 boom with a little command line we made 1:27:56 magic this is like the Commodore 64 1:27:59 being able to do video 1:28:02 was it the Commodore 64 yeah 1:28:06 wait what was it the Amiga what was the 1:28:09 big video machine that was the video 1:28:11 machine forever anyway 1:28:14 yeah this is how early we are this is 1:28:17 how early we are 1:28:18 someone's coming in here though we're so 1:28:20 early that it hedgehogs Ruled the Earth 1:28:22 no 1:28:24 [Laughter] 1:28:29 edlin prompts exactly 1:28:32 oh man 1:28:35 crazy that's a good one 1:28:39 they are learning lab 1:28:42 we're learning tonight actually we're 1:28:44 just kind of reminiscing tonight I like 1:28:45 it 1:28:48 um 1:28:51 it started talking nonsense about the 1:28:54 multiplicative identity property oh 1:28:58 well just copy a greater than b oh God 1:29:03 I asked that what the heck it was 1:29:05 thinking about and it started 1:29:07 apologizing or talking about Holodeck 1:29:10 anyone I got one in my garage five years 1:29:13 from now yeah 1:29:15 that's what's coming 1:29:18 have you seen I mean I've showed this on 1:29:20 the channel before but have you seen 1:29:22 um oh what the [ __ ] is it called 1:29:25 blockade labs 1:29:28 this is stupid and and this is the the 1:29:31 the actual technology here is relatively 1:29:34 simple but what it's doing is super cool 1:29:38 so if you go to what is it 1:29:42 something.lockadelabs.com 1:29:45 um Skybox Skybox 1:29:49 .blockidelabs.com so if you go to 1:29:50 skybox.blockaidlabs.com 1:29:55 beta072 this time we're introducing more 1:29:58 control 1:30:00 so we got an API 1:30:05 all right whatever 1:30:07 so 1:30:08 so this is a cool 3D World right neat 1:30:12 you can look up in the sky you look down 1:30:14 in the valley swell but I can also 1:30:18 it says dream up your world so I can go 1:30:29 space station deep in the cosmos 1:30:34 with an exploding planet in the distance 1:30:38 and Fighters flying through the skies 1:30:43 shooting at one another 1:30:47 and then let's see what style we'll go 1:30:55 [Music] 1:31:00 I guess we'll go 1:31:02 techno Noir cyberpunk 1:31:05 some of the better models 1:31:08 oh I've run out of generations oh this 1:31:11 used to be free 1:31:13 wait let me log in maybe 1:31:17 I get some credits if I log in 1:31:20 mm-hmm 1:31:22 come on 1:31:23 come on 1:31:28 I am so done with 1:31:33 17 Factor Authentication 1:31:40 uh 1:31:54 [Music] 1:31:59 why does he sing like that I don't know 1:32:02 Martha I'm pretty sure he's been 1:32:03 drinking it looks like coffee oh that's 1:32:05 what he says it is I'm pretty sure 1:32:07 that's not coffee boom boom confirm 1:32:17 do I have any available 1:32:19 um let's see what did I say 1:32:24 space station deep in the cosmos 1:32:27 exploding nebula in the distance 1:32:33 is it going 1:32:35 I think it's going yay 1:32:49 so there's their little default world 1:32:53 but then 1:32:56 boom 1:32:58 there's a little space world 1:33:00 that we just invented and it's sort of 1:33:03 3D this is actually not 3D this is just 1:33:05 a flat image that they're generating in 1:33:08 a way that it can be warped onto a 1:33:11 sphere 1:33:12 but there are people now that are taking 1:33:15 these 3DS or these you know mapped 1:33:19 spheres into Unreal Engine 5 and they're 1:33:23 adding objects into the thing and making 1:33:26 them making them so you can interact 1:33:27 with them 1:33:28 so 1:33:30 so right now these are kind of still 1:33:32 janky pieces of [ __ ] where it's this 1:33:34 isn't a real 3D world but we are within 1:33:38 spitting distance of being able to 1:33:41 describe a 3D World it'll generate it 1:33:43 describe the kind of gameplay that you 1:33:46 want it'll generate that describe the 1:33:48 kind of objects the kind of weapons the 1:33:50 kind of vehicles the kind of players the 1:33:52 kind of 1:33:53 um Network ability is it just your 1:33:55 friends is it strangers the kind of 1:33:58 scoring system you just describe it and 1:34:01 you'll be playing this hyper 1:34:04 personalized game that you want to play 1:34:06 and you can do that Solo or you can do 1:34:08 that with your friends right and so 1:34:12 and this is going to be everything this 1:34:14 is going to be movies there's going to 1:34:15 be music Imagine a Spotify that instead 1:34:19 of just being a playlist of songs that 1:34:22 you like that other people wrote It's a 1:34:25 playlist of those songs mixed with 1:34:28 original songs written for you based on 1:34:32 your emotion in the moment 1:34:36 okay 1:34:38 three years from now 1:34:40 that's gonna be Spotify or whatever you 1:34:43 know whatever is the new Spotify right 1:34:44 because Spotify will be like it's all 1:34:46 about real music and real musicians and 1:34:48 then some punks will come up with one 1:34:50 where it's like hey how about if you had 1:34:52 something that just composed music for 1:34:53 you on the fly in real time based on the 1:34:55 emotional 1:34:57 you know senses that we get from your 1:34:59 iris from your smart glasses 1:35:05 and then it's just you know every day is 1:35:08 just an endorphin injection we're all 1:35:10 [ __ ] you know hooked up so ready 1:35:13 player one we should all what we should 1:35:15 do here one night since we're on here 1:35:17 two and a half hours anyway we should 1:35:19 just start watching you know 1:35:21 Ready Player one and her start watching 1:35:25 movies together see if we can get the 1:35:27 copyright police to hunt us down 1:35:30 laughs 1:35:32 janky piece of [ __ ] oh yeah 1:35:37 oh man 1:35:39 very funny 1:35:43 I might upgrade to chat gpd4 actually 1:35:47 pay for it 1:35:48 I need to step up my game 1:35:50 listen it's I think it's probably worth 1:35:54 it Becky just because like if you want 1:35:56 to start playing with this stuff the 1:35:57 fact that it's now multimodal the fact 1:35:59 that you could just show it you know 1:36:01 take a picture of 1:36:03 some location somewhere or take a 1:36:05 picture of like it's I I just have no 1:36:10 idea how we're going to use it I mean I 1:36:11 I think a lot of what this channel is 1:36:13 going to be in the next month or so is 1:36:16 just kind of discovering in real time 1:36:17 together like what is this stuff how do 1:36:20 we play with it like where's the value 1:36:21 here 1:36:23 because I don't know 1:36:26 our grandkids will laugh oh oh yes 1:36:30 so cool 1:36:33 who what I don't I didn't see who sent 1:36:35 that I got I got uh 1:36:38 mesmerized by the blue whale jumping 1:36:40 through the screen that was very cool 1:36:42 thank you whoever that was that was 1:36:44 really awesome I appreciate that wow we 1:36:48 had sound effects and everything it 1:36:49 totally caught me off guard it was like 1:36:51 the other night if you weren't in here 1:36:53 like a week ago 1:36:55 um one of the one of the people who's a 1:36:58 regular in here 1:36:59 um decided to do some 1:37:02 um some Tick-Tock view purchasing on on 1:37:06 our behalf so we're like cruising along 1:37:08 like tonight we were like at 50 people 1:37:09 for like half an hour and then all of a 1:37:12 sudden I look up and we're like four 1:37:13 thousand I was like wait what and then 1:37:17 it went it went all the way up the 1:37:18 highest we hit was like 17 700 and it 1:37:22 was just a bunch of people coming in 1:37:24 that with you know I think it was just 1:37:25 an engagement farm so the the engagement 1:37:27 was really low but there was like you 1:37:30 know 1:37:30 ten thousand plus people in here for 1:37:32 like an hour and a half totally freaked 1:37:34 me out 1:37:35 so the whale didn't freak me out that 1:37:37 much but it was pretty cool all right 1:37:39 awesome 1:37:42 met Gates and Allen at a Sting concert 1:37:44 in the early 80s My Heroes at the time 1:37:46 yeah I I met um I met guy Kawasaki 1:37:50 fairly 1:37:52 fairly early in apples 1:37:55 in apples in in his tenure at Apple as 1:37:57 the as the lead evangelist for Apple guy 1:38:01 Kawasaki was a hero of mine Steve's jobs 1:38:03 was a hero of mine 1:38:05 um 1:38:06 yeah 1:38:07 yeah amazing amazing I mean just 1:38:11 like the those those those early days of 1:38:14 of all that stuff was just 1:38:18 you know you you listen to the was it 1:38:21 Noah Bushnell who started Atari and you 1:38:24 know you listened to Wozniak and you 1:38:26 listen to let's just all those early 1:38:28 guys what it was like it was it's a very 1:38:31 small 1:38:32 community and it you know when we were 1:38:34 doing the the web stuff in New York City 1:38:36 in the mid 90s it was it was a 1:38:38 relatively small community right it was 1:38:40 a community of I don't know 1:38:43 300 to 500 people that really had their 1:38:47 fingers on the pulse of what was going 1:38:49 on 1:38:50 and you know it quickly grew but it was 1:38:54 it was it was a really amazing time 1:38:56 because nobody knew this [ __ ] was coming 1:38:58 and we were all like holy [ __ ] if people 1:39:02 knew what was coming 1:39:05 they'd be acting different 1:39:08 it's just like what we're doing here 1:39:11 if people only knew pay attention people 1:39:14 pay attention 1:39:17 reported today for bullying an AI video 1:39:20 post not the poster 1:39:22 the bot the post was about 1:39:26 reported today for bullying an AI video 1:39:29 post that's really funny quite sure the 1:39:33 bot isn't gonna come alive and go read 1:39:35 comments oh man 1:39:39 um how did you learn mid Journey so you 1:39:41 have to find it inside Discord yeah so 1:39:44 listen they call me tater tot listen 1:39:47 tater tot here's the deal tater tot okay 1:39:50 for one thing can we talk about Tater 1:39:52 tot's name they call me tater tot 1:39:56 she uses camel case so you can read the 1:39:58 words she separates them with the period 1:40:00 and her name is they call me tater tot 1:40:03 it's a 10.5 out of 10. it's my first 1:40:06 north of 10 rating on a name it's the 1:40:09 best name in the history of names in 1:40:11 this channel I love it 1:40:13 I'll never forget it they call me tater 1:40:15 tot 1:40:17 um here's the deal 1:40:21 you don't have to learn mid-journey 1:40:24 because Dolly three's coming out and I 1:40:27 think Dolly three is a mid-journey 1:40:29 killer and it's gonna live inside chat 1:40:32 gpt4 and it's going to be included in 1:40:34 your 20 bucks I think I assume 1:40:37 um 1:40:39 and it's probably going to be out in the 1:40:40 next two weeks so yes you could go learn 1:40:43 mid journey and listen quite frankly 1:40:45 mid-journey is probably still going to 1:40:48 be a significant player for some amount 1:40:50 of time but 1:40:51 Dolly three can do text Dolly 3 can do 1:40:55 incredibly coherent prompt to image uh 1:41:01 matching so so like if you put a bunch 1:41:03 of details in your prompt they actually 1:41:05 all show up in the image that's one of 1:41:07 the things that mid Journey struggles 1:41:09 with like if you put in 1:41:11 um a bunny and a turtle in a in a pond 1:41:16 setting with a beaver what you end up 1:41:19 with very often is like a bunny Turtle 1:41:22 where they've melded into the same kind 1:41:24 of animal and there's like a giant 1:41:26 beaver like smacking him with his tail 1:41:28 like the the sort of predictability of 1:41:31 mid-journey is challenging at best but 1:41:34 the quality is really good 1:41:36 but I would say just wait for two weeks 1:41:39 for Dolly three and start playing with 1:41:41 it because I think it's gonna be better 1:41:43 so 1:41:45 um I the the other thing about mid 1:41:47 Journey there's a couple of things about 1:41:48 it the CEO is a bit of a like an nft bro 1:41:51 he's a bit of a bit of a douche any and 1:41:54 mid-journey is very much about his whims 1:41:57 from what I can gather like the cus you 1:41:59 know the the customer base wants these 1:42:01 things he's like I don't like those 1:42:03 things and he's so he's just like he's 1:42:05 just like a flipping you know sort of 1:42:07 douchey little CEO 1:42:09 um and I don't think he's taking what 1:42:11 he's got on his hands all that seriously 1:42:12 that said they've got like 200 million 1:42:15 dollars in Revenue so so he's doing 1:42:18 something right like you know I don't 1:42:19 fault the guy he's got the the best tool 1:42:22 out there right now but I think just 1:42:24 wait for Dolly three and it's gonna be a 1:42:26 much more professional tight 1:42:29 um tool and and 1:42:32 the way they've coded it chat gpt4 will 1:42:36 write the prompts for you so you can 1:42:38 just say to chatgpt4 help me write a 1:42:41 prompt to make this kind of image really 1:42:43 good it will write its own prompt and 1:42:45 then generate the image so I think it's 1:42:47 going to be here 1:42:50 so but if you want to learn mid-journey 1:42:52 um I'm happy to do a little walk through 1:42:54 about how you get there it's it's a pain 1:42:56 in the ass but it's it's fine 1:42:59 it's the only reason I know how to use 1:43:01 Discord is I did like a year and a half 1:43:03 sort of deep diving into blockchain and 1:43:05 nft land with all the crypto Bros 1:43:08 um so I got I got decent at Discord then 1:43:12 so anyway 1:43:14 all right how to keep from breaking AI 1:43:17 from breaking into everything social 1:43:18 media bank accounts power grids 1:43:21 um 1:43:24 generic 1:43:26 um 1:43:27 I don't know 1:43:29 I don't know I mean this is this is one 1:43:31 of the risks right so if you wanna if if 1:43:34 you want trouble sleeping tonight go 1:43:36 look at a site called worm GPT 1:43:40 it is a it's based I I assume it's based 1:43:44 on one of the Llama models from meta is 1:43:47 my guess but it could be something else 1:43:48 but it's an open source it's based on 1:43:51 open source large language models it is 1:43:54 designed for hackers for a hundred bucks 1:43:56 a month to be an autonomous agent that 1:43:59 just goes and does evil [ __ ] 1:44:01 foreign 1:44:02 that's out there 1:44:06 um why am I laughing I don't know 1:44:07 because I'm nervous 1:44:10 um 1:44:12 they're going to be lots of tools like 1:44:14 that there's going to be lots of Bad 1:44:15 actors the good news is 1:44:17 the white hat hackers the the good guys 1:44:20 also have access to these tools so if 1:44:23 someone does something pretty egregious 1:44:25 you know the good guys are going to have 1:44:27 access to tools that can either stop it 1:44:29 prevent it fix it or go find the bad 1:44:32 guys and 1:44:33 do evil [ __ ] to them too so I don't know 1:44:36 um 1:44:39 you know I I think this is one of the 1:44:41 reasons it seems to me that that the the 1:44:44 Primitive nature you know we're talking 1:44:47 about these tools being in in DOS mode 1:44:49 right they're kind of in this weird 1:44:51 primitive state 1:44:53 and as powerful as chat gpt4 is 1:44:57 it's not AGI it's not doing reasoning 1:45:00 it's not it's not doing autonomous 1:45:03 actions right it's it's not you know 1:45:05 performing things on our behalf there 1:45:07 there are things 1:45:08 like 1:45:09 um you know Lang chain and baby AGI and 1:45:12 auto GPT that are autonomous agents but 1:45:16 they're also janky and [ __ ] up they 1:45:17 just don't work most of the time 1:45:20 it's the next round of these things it's 1:45:24 it's the GPT fives and and you know if 1:45:27 Gemini isn't so if let's say GPT three 1:45:31 three and three point five are down here 1:45:32 four is here 1:45:34 Gemini this new Google thing is either 1:45:36 going to be you know at gpt4 maybe it's 1:45:39 going to be up here 1:45:41 when when we get to kind of gpt5 when we 1:45:44 get to this level this this sort of next 1:45:46 round or gpt6 1:45:48 that's when these tools start getting 1:45:50 really really powerful and what what the 1:45:54 if if you want to feel a little bit 1:45:57 better 1:45:58 um a group of the big companies that 1:46:01 that have have access to all these GPT 1:46:03 used to do what What's called the 1:46:05 frontier models they put together this 1:46:07 Consortium called the Frontier Model I 1:46:10 forget what they're called it's not the 1:46:11 Consortium what is it 1:46:14 um AI Frontier Point 1:46:18 um 1:46:23 forum 1:46:24 the Frontier Model forum 1:46:27 so you can go read on open ai's blog 1:46:30 about the Frontier Model Forum so a 1:46:32 bunch of the big companies basically got 1:46:34 together and said when we start getting 1:46:36 to the next generation of these things 1:46:39 we need to coordinate and figure out 1:46:41 what if that needs to be actually not 1:46:44 just regulated by government but but 1:46:46 licensed 1:46:47 by government 1:46:49 similar to how you like you give a 1:46:51 license for someone to operate a nuclear 1:46:53 plant or you give someone a license to 1:46:55 operate you know a power plant 1:46:58 some of these models are going to be 1:47:00 powerful enough that the companies 1:47:03 making them are going to the government 1:47:05 to say you should license these things 1:47:07 now there's a cynical side of me that 1:47:10 says 1:47:11 you know if you're early enough you get 1:47:13 the government to you know regulate 1:47:16 things in your direction right so so 1:47:19 they might be doing that but 1:47:21 um they're they're at least talking 1:47:22 about it they're at least saying when 1:47:24 these things get more powerful the 1:47:25 danger is very real and they should be 1:47:27 treated like that just like we treat you 1:47:30 know licensing pilots and airplanes and 1:47:33 airplane manufacturers and all that sort 1:47:35 of stuff when when a lot of lives are at 1:47:38 risk so 1:47:39 I think the current tools are primitive 1:47:42 enough that maybe they're not you know 1:47:44 super a super threat but you know 1:47:48 a bad actor with not much knowledge 1:47:50 could probably do some damage so 1:47:53 sleep well sleep tight 1:48:00 give that garbage which garbage The 1:48:03 Prompt that I gave to make it give that 1:48:05 garbage I don't know what garbage you're 1:48:06 talking about 1:48:15 Becky Roo okay you've tucked me into it 1:48:16 I'm upgrading Bang 1:48:19 another satisfied customer 1:48:22 go to Chachi PT right now sign up at 1:48:25 1995 YouTube can have 1995 1:48:29 1995. yours only buy one get one free 1:48:36 I don't make money from that by the way 1:48:41 oh 1:48:43 but that's cool 1:48:45 okay uh let's see not C I meant C it 1:48:50 keeps popping C for x no it was a step 1:48:53 of an explanation what you you all are 1:48:55 you all are doing wait are you all 1:48:58 helping each other with math equations 1:48:59 in in the comments here 1:49:02 that seems anathema to someone who can't 1:49:05 do math 1:49:07 feels like you're going behind my back 1:49:09 here and solving actual math problems 1:49:11 I mean we got paid in here paint can do 1:49:14 actual math problems so 1:49:17 um I just don't understand how they are 1:49:19 so afraid of these things 1:49:21 and they fail to regulate guns well 1:49:24 listen I 1:49:27 have you watched any of the 48 PM shut 1:49:30 up 1:49:32 have you watched any of the the 1:49:34 Congressional hearings they don't know 1:49:36 what [ __ ] Wi-Fi is 1:49:38 I mean they at least know what a gun is 1:49:40 but they don't know what Wi-Fi is how 1:49:42 are they gonna how are they gonna 1:49:43 regulate something they don't have any 1:49:47 concept they don't understand how social 1:49:48 media works 1:49:50 much less the nuances of a large 1:49:52 language model 1:49:54 and how 1:49:56 how it's generating content and not 1:49:59 copying and pasting it like I don't know 1:50:02 I don't know I mean what I'm hoping what 1:50:04 I'm hoping they do is that out of the 1:50:06 out of the Chuck Schumer meeting you 1:50:08 know where they all met I you know I'm 1:50:09 hoping that they create the AI 1:50:11 equivalent of like the FTC or the FAA 1:50:15 where they put someone like Jeffrey 1:50:17 Hinton in charge of it that actually 1:50:19 knows what the [ __ ] he's doing 1:50:20 understands what the risks are 1:50:23 and and they have an organization that 1:50:25 they can that the Congress can you know 1:50:28 look to and say provide us guidance 1:50:31 based on reality not you know politics 1:50:36 so 1:50:38 I don't know I don't have I don't I I 1:50:41 have I am in a in it 1:50:44 I am in a dark and cynical place about 1:50:46 our state of politics over the past 1:50:48 decade so 1:50:50 I don't have a lot of faith in them and 1:50:52 at the same time 1:50:54 um this shit's really powerful like this 1:50:56 [ __ ] is not a it's not going away it's 1:50:58 not getting uninvented 1:51:00 and 1:51:01 um it needs to be dealt with it needs to 1:51:03 be dealt with at a governmental level 1:51:05 and it quite frankly needs to be dealt 1:51:07 with at a global level right this this 1:51:09 isn't even country by country at this 1:51:11 point 1:51:12 training AI to discern between 1:51:14 fraudulent data and factual data is the 1:51:16 challenge now yeah I think that's right 1:51:19 and I think that um I I think AI will 1:51:23 likely drive us toward back toward you 1:51:26 know tokenization blockchain technology 1:51:28 maybe nft technology maybe some other 1:51:30 flavor of that 1:51:33 but you know can you verify that that 1:51:37 reporter wrote that article and that 1:51:39 that article hasn't been [ __ ] with 1:51:42 how do you track all that well Large 1:51:44 Marge Marge you got to see this picture 1:51:47 you got to see this picture 1:51:49 they caught Biden French kissing a 1:51:51 gorilla at the Cleveland Zoo you know he 1:51:53 was there giving that speech in 1:51:54 Cleveland well apparently he's got a 1:51:56 thing for gorillas he went down to the 1:51:58 zoo and they got a picture of him French 1:51:59 kissing Gabriela can you believe that 1:52:06 what are we gonna do with that 1:52:09 are you using a mobile phone or a laptop 1:52:11 camera for this live curious since frame 1:52:15 size is good 1:52:17 um 1:52:19 phone but it's an iPhone 14 pro 1:52:23 so the back camera is a 45 megapixel 1:52:27 camera if it's using the the 1X camera 1:52:31 and then I think it's a decent 1:52:32 front-facing camera 1:52:34 the it's better my my previous phone I 1:52:37 think I had an 11 Pro and the focus this 1:52:40 [ __ ] was really bad with the 11. this 1:52:43 thing if I have my hand in the thing the 1:52:45 focus is bad but if it's just on its own 1:52:47 it's actually really good 1:52:48 so yeah yeah yeah 1:52:52 and another thing yeah 1:52:55 hey Peter yeah we're gonna need you to 1:52:58 go on ahead and coming in on Saturday 1:53:01 yeah oh and another thing Peter yeah 1:53:06 um we're gonna need you to go on ahead 1:53:08 and come on in on Sunday too yeah 1:53:13 yeah okay 1:53:15 I just got an update did you guys 1:53:18 Sherry Banks if I just got an update 1:53:21 I'll 1:53:22 jump through the screen and give you a 1:53:24 smooch on the forehead come on chat be 1:53:27 there baby 1:53:31 get started let's get this party started 1:53:35 get this party started let's get this 1:53:38 bodies started 1:53:40 I like turtles 1:53:44 welcome to chat adg 1:53:46 [Laughter] 1:53:49 anything new no no see I should have a 1:53:53 little picture I should have a little 1:53:55 camera icon in my in my thing let me go 1:53:58 to hang on 1:53:59 I don't think I have it yet I got 1:54:02 nothing get no see them 1:54:07 all right Sherry they call me tater tot 1:54:11 I'll wait until chat gbt has it thanks 1:54:14 they call me tater tot as a Ron White 1:54:16 reference c c yeah exactly I know that 1:54:19 that Ron White reference that's really 1:54:21 good the commentator that's great they 1:54:24 call me Tater that's awesome 1:54:27 um I just don't understand how they're 1:54:29 so afraid of these things oh yeah that 1:54:31 okay uh planes gas plants gas station 1:54:34 sushi in large quantities everything but 1:54:38 guns huh well listen 1:54:41 the 1:54:42 citizens united 1:54:45 there's your answer right like 1:54:47 undue Citizens United and maybe things 1:54:49 will get better everything's bought and 1:54:51 paid for right now so it's none of this 1:54:54 none of this is about the actual 1:54:56 politics this is all about who's bought 1:54:58 and paid for right so that's where we 1:55:01 are right now so it you know that's why 1:55:04 I'm so cynical this is you can this is a 1:55:07 the great mistake of the of the the 1:55:11 non-conservative side of this argument 1:55:14 is that they keep making the mistake 1:55:18 life's tough stuff tougher when you're 1:55:19 stupid 1:55:20 they keep making the mistake of thinking 1:55:22 that logic 1:55:24 will make a difference 1:55:26 it isn't about logic 1:55:30 it's a game it's a game button paid for 1:55:34 independent of good logic and good 1:55:37 intention 1:55:39 that's why I'm so cynical and bitter 1:55:41 bitter you betcha 1:55:47 um training AI to discernment yep we 1:55:50 talked about that don't trust AI in math 1:55:52 although 1:55:54 um code interpreters not bad because 1:55:56 it's writing and executing python code 1:55:58 and and it's better it's still not great 1:56:01 it's still not great 1:56:04 like I'm I've got a 1:56:06 I've got a report that I run for some 1:56:09 client stuff 1:56:11 oh my God it's like 1:56:14 I can get it 1:56:16 to get the numbers right after about 1:56:20 somewhere between 10 and 20 iterations 1:56:24 it's just it's just bad right now 1:56:27 well so so actually you know Mantra you 1:56:31 know your Point's a good one so so if 1:56:32 especially if you're new to this stuff 1:56:35 an important thing to to 1:56:38 understand is use these tools enough so 1:56:42 that you understand what they're good at 1:56:44 and what they're bad at 1:56:45 and where they're bad 1:56:48 use your [ __ ] brain use your critical 1:56:51 thinking 1:56:53 right if you know that it might not be 1:56:55 good at math if you know it hallucinates 1:56:57 if it spits out a bunch of citations for 1:57:00 the article it just wrote for you where 1:57:03 you're like hey this article is good I 1:57:04 wonder you know could you point me to 1:57:07 some some magazine articles that you 1:57:09 wrote that from it will give you the 1:57:11 magazine articles and most of them 1:57:13 probably won't exist 1:57:16 and unless you play with this stuff you 1:57:19 know you run the very real risk of 1:57:21 embarrassing yourself or Worse right 1:57:23 there was a lawyer that wrote a legal 1:57:26 brief handed it to a [ __ ] judge 1:57:30 and the judge says none of this case law 1:57:32 exists what are you doing you can't make 1:57:35 this [ __ ] up 1:57:37 and the lawyer was like uh sir I use 1:57:41 chat jpt uh sorry about that oh yeah 1:57:44 I'll go back and proofread it next time 1:57:47 foreign 1:57:51 Ty that's on shitty user Behavior 1:57:54 understand your tools these are just 1:57:57 tools 1:57:58 uh diag 1:58:01 o at goatori diagulatory diagulatory 1:58:05 diagulatory diagote I couldn't see the 1:58:09 rest of your name so I don't know what 1:58:10 it says but it looked like a cool name I 1:58:12 think this is one I couldn't pronounce 1:58:16 Congressman said can my wife get on my 1:58:19 Wi-Fi exactly exactly 1:58:24 these guys are gonna regulate our AI oh 1:58:28 my God was he a senator it doesn't 1:58:30 matter it's exactly Silver Fox same 1:58:34 exactly 1:58:36 oh they just bought and paid for shills 1:58:38 ugh it's so gross it's so gross you know 1:58:41 what I mean it's so gross 1:58:44 um are you using a mobile phone we did 1:58:46 that one 1:58:47 and some of those hearings they were 1:58:49 saying to regulate the deployment which 1:58:51 I was thinking 1:58:53 well yeah they could regulate here's the 1:58:55 problem so wait oh Diego Torre attorneys 1:59:01 um 1:59:01 so here's the here's the problem 1:59:06 it's already rolled out 1:59:08 [Laughter] 1:59:11 the the 1:59:13 what's Sam 1:59:15 the reason Sam Altman took open AI from 1:59:18 a non-frop profit to a for-profit was 1:59:21 first he realized he needed more money 1:59:23 than he could raise in a non-profit to 1:59:25 train these things 1:59:27 and then once they trained them he was 1:59:29 like oh [ __ ] we can't just let this out 1:59:31 in the world like was our intent right 1:59:33 so his idea was to slow roll the 1:59:36 deployment 1:59:37 of the base models 1:59:39 and then Chachi PT did what it did 1:59:42 and Google got all excited and they 1:59:44 started doing their thing but they're 1:59:45 all doing it within these closed you 1:59:48 know environments and then meta is like 1:59:50 Hey we're irrelevant over here we've 1:59:53 been talking about the metaverse for 1:59:54 three years no one seems to give a [ __ ] 1:59:56 they're like hey look over here we've 1:59:58 got AI too and they released it 2:00:02 they put it out in the world 2:00:04 so 2:00:06 so it's out there so like that ship has 2:00:09 already sailed now the next more 2:00:13 powerful versions of these maybe there's 2:00:16 some sort of government regulation that 2:00:18 says meta can't do that anymore but now 2:00:22 that the stuff's out there 2:00:24 I'm sure the developer Community is 2:00:26 trying to figure out how they can you 2:00:28 know do virtual GPU server Farms to 2:00:32 you know do their version of gpt5 so I 2:00:35 don't know we'll see 2:00:37 we'll see but this stuff's moving way 2:00:38 too fast and I I think the uh 2:00:41 I think the deployment ship has has done 2:00:45 deployed 2:00:47 government government missed that one 2:00:50 and they're gonna you know they're gonna 2:00:51 try their damnedest to put it back in 2:00:53 the box but they're not going to be able 2:00:54 to 2:00:56 go to chat GPT now please I did and it 2:01:00 didn't like me let me go try to reload 2:01:02 oh no I logged in from scratch it makes 2:01:05 me sad but what did I do Sam Altman 2:01:10 ham 2:01:11 Sam give me my toys I want my chat gbt 2:01:16 to be able to see 2:01:24 it doesn't work 2:01:26 I got nothing I got nothing nothing I 2:01:30 got nothing honey nothing honey 2:01:33 will require us to have some 2:01:35 permit to buy gpus they might I mean 2:01:38 above a certain level I mean if you buy 2:01:41 200 gpus I don't think they give a [ __ ] 2:01:44 if you buy 10 000 yeah 2:01:47 I mean inflection 2:01:49 the ones that do PI AI they just raise 2:01:51 1.3 billion dollars I think 950 million 2:01:54 of that is earmarked for 22 000 servers 2:01:57 or 22 000 gpus 2:02:00 so 2:02:02 that might be the kind of thing that a 2:02:04 regulatory body might say okay if you're 2:02:06 going to buy more than x number of GPU 2:02:08 or X number of compute you know X number 2:02:10 of cycles of compute then you have to be 2:02:14 regulated and if you're going to buy you 2:02:16 know 10x that then you have to be 2:02:17 licensed I mean I I don't know like I 2:02:20 don't know enough about that world at 2:02:21 all 2:02:22 it's the wild west and the laws playing 2:02:24 catch up it's totally that 2:02:27 um 2:02:28 I the the thing that's the thing that's 2:02:31 a little concerning though is I think 2:02:33 that like Corporate America 2:02:36 government America thinks they have more 2:02:39 time than they have I think that they 2:02:41 think they have well in three to five 2:02:43 years they like like a similar sort of 2:02:46 ramp up of the World Wide Web right the 2:02:48 world wide web from from when it was 2:02:50 kicked off to when it hit 100 million 2:02:52 users was six years so that ramp up was 2:02:55 six years chat GPT went from zero to 100 2:02:59 million users in six weeks 2:03:02 six weeks and this the the technology 2:03:06 here is not just the World Wide Web like 2:03:09 this simple point-and-click interface on 2:03:11 the internet no no the output here is it 2:03:14 writes code it writes words it makes 2:03:16 pictures it makes music 2:03:19 and knowledge workers are 2:03:22 about to be 2:03:25 shaken up 2:03:28 hard 2:03:29 and not like three years from now like 2:03:32 2024 is going to be insane 2:03:36 and so I think any company right now and 2:03:40 any government entity that thinks that 2:03:42 they have three years to prepare for 2:03:45 thinking about when to start 2:03:48 regulation is going to be smacked upside 2:03:53 the head 2:03:54 look at my hair 2:03:57 that's what the Senators and congressmen 2:03:59 are going to look like a year from now 2:04:01 when they realize uh we [ __ ] up what's 2:04:05 up there's that one Tick Tock sound and 2:04:07 that's what he knew he [ __ ] up 2:04:10 that's gonna be us 2:04:12 when is it going to be September 2:04:15 except this time next year 2:04:19 this time next year I think we're going 2:04:21 to realize 2:04:23 we need to get some sort of tokenization 2:04:25 and 2:04:27 um media authentication in place 2:04:31 personal verification and identity in 2:04:33 place 2:04:34 and we got to start getting our [ __ ] 2:04:37 together because 2:04:39 I think the 2024 election is going to be 2:04:42 is going to be 2:04:44 a special mess 2:04:46 so we'll see maybe not I don't know 2:04:49 how cautious wait oh sorry what was that 2:04:51 whoever pinned that could you pin it 2:04:52 again 2:04:56 my hair is gone it's gone all sorts of 2:04:59 [ __ ] wacky hasn't it 2:05:03 this is the best toupee I've had 2:05:07 it's actually three topaz but uh wait 2:05:09 how cautious about this information 2:05:11 being 2:05:12 farmed and analyzed in China are you I 2:05:15 don't really for me personally I don't 2:05:17 give a [ __ ] 2:05:20 um 2:05:22 I don't think China's our Nemesis I mean 2:05:25 Google and Facebook are 2:05:29 that we don't need it 2:05:32 okay so China's gonna Farm it all right 2:05:36 it's been it's been being farmed here 2:05:39 voluntarily on our parts for 20 years 2:05:41 now it's the ship has sailed our day the 2:05:45 date of privacy thing isn't done like 2:05:48 people talk about this AI [ __ ] like oh 2:05:50 my God the Privacy privacy is going to 2:05:52 be a real situation what do we do 2:05:54 what do we do 2:05:56 how long have you had a Facebook account 2:05:58 oh for 20 years I put everything on 2:06:00 there really 2:06:01 you concerned about AI 2:06:06 but Mark Zuckerberg he seems harmless 2:06:08 enough 2:06:10 Google their original saying was first 2:06:13 do no evil I'm pretty sure they haven't 2:06:14 done evil I'm pretty sure they haven't 2:06:16 I'm pretty sure they have it because 2:06:17 they said it 2:06:18 they said it I saw it somewhere it's not 2:06:21 on their website anymore but I remember 2:06:22 hearing that from someone first do no 2:06:24 evil so they're not evil 2:06:27 so yeah is it a risk sure is it a risk 2:06:30 from Russia sure 2:06:32 the thing that scares me about the AI 2:06:34 stuff is not so much 2:06:36 China's gonna do this Russia is going to 2:06:38 do this whoever's going to do this it's 2:06:40 that 2:06:42 I think we 2:06:44 mostly rightly 2:06:48 assumed that 2:06:51 if someone was really really resourceful 2:06:54 and had a lot of resources 2:06:57 and really wanted to get to our data 2:06:59 they could get to it but for the most 2:07:01 part our data was safe 2:07:03 and the problem with AI is is that it's 2:07:07 democratizing sophisticated 2:07:10 programming 2:07:13 to non-programmers 2:07:16 so the implication of that is Hackers 2:07:19 going to hack but now you've got 2:07:21 clueless hackers are going to start 2:07:23 hacking well 2:07:25 and that's that's where it gets a little 2:07:27 scary because it because a minor player 2:07:30 could do some major damage they can't 2:07:31 even pass a simple budget extension yeah 2:07:34 I just I I'm I'm just done the whole 2:07:37 it's it's it is comically tragic it is 2:07:41 our government right now is 2:07:43 Shakespearean and it's it is idiocy it 2:07:46 is it is 2:07:49 it is 2:07:51 tragic comedy 2:07:54 it would be [ __ ] hilarious if it 2:07:56 wasn't so [ __ ] destructive I made a 2:07:58 pobot that threatened to delete it if it 2:08:01 gives me false information that's the 2:08:04 Dan that's the Dan model Mantra is a 2:08:07 hacker from way back I can tell 2:08:09 Manchester is [ __ ] with PO 2:08:13 is it working is it giving you answers 2:08:15 that you want because have you gotten 2:08:17 around the safety guard rails 2:08:21 I like that uh we had script kitties for 2:08:24 eons 2:08:26 his videos are already being used 2:08:28 without his consent who's that me 2:08:31 the bot was scared to death so it did 2:08:33 not return any information at all 2:08:36 that's [ __ ] crazy 2:08:39 um 2:08:41 I mean these videos right wait any 2:08:44 information you share here can be used 2:08:47 without your consent oh do I care about 2:08:49 that no I've been listening 2:08:53 I've been I've been doxxed 2:08:56 not not fully docs I have been I've been 2:09:00 just kind of openly on the internet for 2:09:03 you know 2:09:04 many many decades 2:09:07 so I don't I don't really have anything 2:09:09 to hide I don't I don't there's there's 2:09:11 not really much 2:09:13 at risk 2:09:15 is it possible that someone takes these 2:09:17 videos and synthesizes me well yeah they 2:09:20 could do that but they only need like 2:09:22 three seconds of my voice and probably 2:09:25 10 seconds of video 2:09:28 and maybe if they wanted to do a 2:09:29 sophisticated version of this they could 2:09:31 take three of my lives I mean these are 2:09:33 two and a half or three hour sessions 2:09:35 I'm putting on YouTube 2:09:37 um 2:09:42 I mean 2:09:46 you know Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson 2:09:48 have more to worry about than I do right 2:09:50 like those guys are being spoofed a lot 2:09:53 already right but they've got millions 2:09:55 of followers I mean I just have a 2:09:58 relatively small following I mean 2:10:00 there's I like I don't there's no real 2:10:02 risk right 2:10:05 is it possible that someone goes oh 2:10:09 Kyle looks just like a cross between Tom 2:10:12 Arnold and Rosie O'Donnell and he's just 2:10:14 what we're looking for in a movie but we 2:10:16 don't actually want to deal with the 2:10:17 human being so we're just going to 2:10:18 synthesize him and make him start in 2:10:20 this movie is that a possibility I 2:10:23 suppose so but I think the risk is 2:10:25 really really really really really 2:10:26 really low 2:10:28 so so if someone wants to put me in a 2:10:31 movie because I have special attributes 2:10:33 they can just [ __ ] call me or they 2:10:36 can steal it and then you know I don't 2:10:39 know I'll call up my sag buddies and go 2:10:41 hey what do I do here they'll be like 2:10:43 pay your dudes [ __ ] 2:10:46 emotional based hackers 2:10:49 yeah there's gonna be all sorts of crazy 2:10:51 weird you know what's going to get weird 2:10:53 is the social engineering stuff have you 2:10:55 heard some of the some of the 2:10:56 conversations with these sales Bots this 2:10:59 shit's trippy go to 2:11:01 um if you want to see some weird stuff 2:11:03 again these right now are kind of like 2:11:05 the Dos version of these right so these 2:11:07 are the shitty versions of these go to 2:11:09 air.ai 2:11:11 and just listen to the the initial 2:11:14 um there's like an example 2:11:17 demo 2:11:19 hey James 2:11:23 yeah no worries I hate calls out of the 2:11:25 blue too but I'm actually from Apple and 2:11:28 I saw you were checking out Vision Pro 2:11:29 and we're about to pre-order but left 2:11:31 the page I was curious what had you 2:11:33 looking into potential okay I can 2:11:35 respect that can I just ask one question 2:11:37 before you go 2:11:39 uh fine shoot what's up 2:11:43 why did you well why did you decide not 2:11:46 to pre-order The Vision Pro so so those 2:11:49 kind of conversations like like I 2:11:52 when when 2:11:54 the ability to have a synthesized bot 2:11:57 call up and have a natural conversation 2:11:58 when that when that latency goes away 2:12:00 and the robotic nature of that goes away 2:12:02 which again 2:12:04 maybe a year 2:12:06 those Bots are going to be real time 2:12:08 with zero latency and they're going to 2:12:10 sound human and they can just dial the 2:12:12 phone 24 7 to all phone numbers 2:12:17 so the amount of social engineering that 2:12:20 can happen so that the hacking isn't 2:12:22 even necessarily going to happen at the 2:12:25 um computer like breaking into computer 2:12:27 systems and still stealing [ __ ] that's 2:12:29 one risk but security firms are getting 2:12:32 better and better at that the weak Link 2:12:34 in all of this is us it's always been us 2:12:38 it'll always be us 2:12:40 and so you're already hearing stories of 2:12:43 you know the daughter calls the mother 2:12:45 and says Mom I'm in trouble you got to 2:12:47 send me two thousand dollars right now 2:12:48 and it wasn't the daughter 2:12:52 question from Beach Palm do you put all 2:12:54 the live streams on YouTube all of them 2:12:56 question mark yeah I'm I'm up to 2:12:59 September 15th I think right now 2:13:02 so I'll I'll probably get completely 2:13:05 caught up 2:13:06 um Saturday is my hope 2:13:10 so I started doing these live streams 2:13:13 April 2:13:15 so there's May June July August half of 2:13:20 September 2:13:22 and you'll notice if you go to the 2:13:24 YouTube channel so the um 2:13:29 hang on I'll show you the address in a 2:13:31 second here I gotta sign in and then 2:13:34 switch accounts and then you need any 2:13:39 by the way if you want to feel stupid 2:13:44 um and really learn a lot about where 2:13:46 this shit's headed go watch a YouTuber 2:13:49 named David Shapiro 2:13:52 um he's a brilliant dude so let's see 2:13:54 videos so if you go to 2:13:59 um 2:14:04 uh AI learning lab Dash TT on YouTube 2:14:09 so AI learning lab was taken someone 2:14:11 else has that but AI learning lab Dash 2:14:13 TT for tick tock huh clever like a 2:14:16 [ __ ] steel trap hmm 2:14:19 go there you can see all the all the 2:14:22 back 2:14:23 um videos 2:14:24 but you'll notice the first seven seven 2:14:27 or so don't have descriptions but all 2:14:29 the descriptions 2:14:31 were written by Claude 2:14:34 so I took I took the two and a half or 2:14:36 three hour transcripts of each live 2:14:39 pasted it into Claude and I've got this 2:14:41 magical prompt I wrote like 2:14:44 I've probably put in I don't know a 2:14:47 week's worth of work getting this 2:14:48 [ __ ] prompt to work 2:14:50 and it works about 25 percent of the 2:14:52 time but all of the descriptions of the 2:14:55 videos and all of the chapterization is 2:14:58 all done with Claude it's pretty cool 2:15:01 so 2:15:02 yeah 2:15:04 so all of these are there I don't know 2:15:06 why anyone would want to watch them but 2:15:08 knock yourself out I don't even know why 2:15:11 I'm putting you know I'm putting them on 2:15:13 on YouTube because someone said oh could 2:15:15 could you put this [ __ ] on YouTube I was 2:15:17 like all right 2:15:18 I don't my plan for this Channel right 2:15:22 now is I don't have an end game 2:15:25 um I made a commitment to myself that 2:15:27 I'm going to do this so so just to give 2:15:29 you a sense of 2:15:30 when I decide to do [ __ ] like this I do 2:15:33 it like when I decide to start a company 2:15:34 I [ __ ] do it when I decide to 2:15:36 whatever I do it so when we went into 2:15:39 lockdown I've got my company storyline 2:15:42 we got a video storytelling platform 2:15:44 and 2:15:46 we went into lockdown and I'm like I'm 2:15:48 an extrovert I like I get my energy from 2:15:50 people this is going to be [ __ ] 2:15:52 torture so I decided to do a daily video 2:15:55 diary so if you go to YouTube uh for 2:15:59 storyvine you'll see there's a whole 2:16:01 video series there it's it's a video for 2:16:04 me every day for a year talking about 2:16:07 being an extrovert it's called an 2:16:09 extrovert's View From Within 2:16:12 and I did it for a year straight and got 2:16:15 like 65 followers so The Tick Tock 2:16:19 things has been very different like this 2:16:21 is actually interesting and engaging and 2:16:23 there's a really cool Community forming 2:16:25 here 2:16:26 um that didn't happen with with that 2:16:27 other project but but that's my 2:16:30 my intent right now is just to keep 2:16:33 doing these why I don't know 2:16:37 I think it's important I think it's 2:16:39 valuable it seems to be 2:16:41 helping some people 2:16:45 um 2:16:48 and I don't know I think it's I think 2:16:51 it's I think it's going to be something 2:16:52 of value I don't I don't know what I'm 2:16:55 doing with it though so do you have any 2:16:57 ideas let me know 2:16:59 uh you mean someone can download your 2:17:02 live as it's happening or showing I 2:17:04 don't oh they might be able to I don't 2:17:06 think so they can record you can record 2:17:08 your phone 2:17:10 actually I think I think some of the 2:17:12 Irregulars on here say that they that 2:17:14 they do that that they record these or 2:17:16 they record sections of them like when 2:17:17 I'm talking when I'm doing tutorials and 2:17:19 [ __ ] 2:17:21 um people people have done that 2:17:23 Jim Ross I've been playing with air.ai 2:17:25 to make sales calls for me the woman's 2:17:27 voice is much better oh that's cool so 2:17:29 Jim have they been have they been 2:17:30 working I mean like how does that work 2:17:33 do they get through like when Once when 2:17:35 when like one book's a meeting like do 2:17:38 you get to listen to the interaction do 2:17:39 they does it summarize it I've been 2:17:42 curious about that 2:17:45 that's really fascinating 2:17:48 it actually it might be cool to have you 2:17:51 like share that at a salon or something 2:17:53 like that Jim 2:17:55 Poe showed six criteria for trustworthy 2:17:57 news and said no news on the internet 2:18:00 matches all the criteria 2:18:02 that doesn't surprise me 2:18:04 I think I think it would be a fun thing 2:18:06 I think you could use AI to do I'm sure 2:18:08 someone's already done this 2:18:10 you could find the original the original 2:18:14 um event that happened and then you 2:18:17 could compare different news stories 2:18:19 coverage of it and see how far it 2:18:22 deviates from the facts of the event 2:18:25 oh 2:18:37 and offering boatloads of cash to 2:18:39 influencers for a tech that no one asked 2:18:42 for smells real fishy who's offering 2:18:45 boatloads of cash to influencers to me 2:18:47 wait 2:18:49 there's someone offering me buttloads of 2:18:51 cash I'll sell out I'll do it I'm in 2:18:56 I'm in send me the butt loads of cash 2:18:58 Kevin 2:19:01 what the [ __ ] are you talking about 2:19:03 all right 2:19:04 um 2:19:05 what would be a good model for creating 2:19:07 non-playable characters oh 2:19:10 uh Diego Torres Diego Torres you need to 2:19:14 see something listen 2:19:17 uh uh let's see what's it called 2:19:21 what the [ __ ] is it called hang on 2:19:26 um 2:19:27 oh I can't remember the name of the 2:19:29 paper 2:19:30 someone who's got to remember the name 2:19:32 of the paper 2:19:33 wait uh 2:19:36 let's see wait a i NPCs white paper 2:19:45 yeah I got it okay 2:19:53 so what's it called 2:19:59 this thing This Is Amazing by the way 2:20:02 so this white paper I gotta go find the 2:20:05 white paper hang on I'll do it 2:20:08 where's my mouse come on there we go 2:20:22 fantaverse this is it does it 2:20:34 no that's all right 2:21:04 I'm trying to get you the name of the 2:21:06 paper 2:21:21 so this was from back in April 2:21:24 so so basically what it is this paper 2:21:30 the paper oh generative agents that's 2:21:32 what it's called Interactive 2:21:35 simulacra of human behavior that's right 2:21:37 hang on 2:21:39 um 2:21:41 archive 2:21:45 um generative 2:21:48 agents 2:21:54 so if you go to Archive which is 2:21:56 oh wait that's archivevanity.com that's 2:21:59 not ah 2:22:01 [ __ ] Google and Bing the the search 2:22:04 engines are so [ __ ] useless 2:22:09 a r x i v 2:22:13 dot org 2:22:17 um 2:22:19 generative agents 2:22:25 [Music] 2:22:33 alternative agents Sim 2:22:37 you like 2:22:44 here we go 2:22:46 so go to Archive arxiv.org 2:22:51 and then find this paper 2:22:54 called generative agents Interactive 2:22:57 simulacra 2:22:58 of human behavior 2:23:01 and then what they did this is it's so 2:23:04 cool 2:23:05 um and I and I think there's like this 2:23:08 was the original paper I think there's a 2:23:10 there's a 2:23:11 um 2:23:12 a project on hugging face right now or 2:23:16 GitHub I forget which one where you can 2:23:18 actually go play with this thing now 2:23:22 let me load the white paper in here 2:23:30 Sherry Banks your lives keep me grounded 2:23:32 actually oh thank you for that I 2:23:34 appreciate that 2:23:36 I try to keep it real people I try to 2:23:39 keep it you know at least entertaining 2:23:41 semi semi-educational and then yes semi 2:23:45 like like what the [ __ ] are we all doing 2:23:47 here okay so the way this thing works is 2:23:51 there's 25 NPCs so NPCs are non-player 2:23:55 characters for those of you not in the 2:23:57 gaming world and they're those things 2:23:59 that like when you walk into the bar 2:24:00 he's like would you like a drink and 2:24:02 they have like their script of [ __ ] they 2:24:04 can say and they you know you ask them 2:24:06 things and if you try to have an 2:24:07 interaction with them you can't because 2:24:09 they've been just programmed it's kind 2:24:11 of like the voice trees when you call 2:24:14 the insurance company where they've only 2:24:16 been trained to say certain things 2:24:18 so what they did here was they made each 2:24:22 of the NPCs 2:24:24 have its own Persona and its own job and 2:24:27 then it's tied to chat GPT and the NPCs 2:24:31 can interact with each other so they 2:24:32 wake up in the morning like the artist 2:24:34 wakes up in the morning goes to the cafe 2:24:36 gets a coffee comes back to the studio 2:24:39 and starts painting the farmer makes 2:24:42 eggs with the wife and then goes out and 2:24:44 starts farming 2:24:46 um and then when these NPCs interact 2:24:48 with one another they have conversations 2:24:51 and they remember what they talked about 2:24:53 so one of the examples they give in this 2:24:56 paper is that is that um one of the NPCs 2:25:01 said to the other one it was his 2:25:03 birthday next week 2:25:04 and so the other one planned a party 2:25:08 with the other NPCs so he got together 2:25:11 they planned a party for this this other 2:25:14 one 2:25:15 um and it remembers it and and it's and 2:25:17 it's so so these things are like living 2:25:20 in this world 2:25:22 independent of of you or whatever other 2:25:25 players going through it and they're 2:25:27 developing memories and they're 2:25:29 developing you know personalities and 2:25:32 they're getting work done 2:25:35 what's fascinating about this to me is 2:25:37 that 2:25:39 the distance between this being a game 2:25:42 activity and being a personal agent for 2:25:46 for yourself is very small 2:25:49 so so imagine this rather than it being 2:25:51 a game like this imagine that you've got 2:25:54 25 agents that represent you 2:25:58 you've got a little entertainment agent 2:26:00 whose job it is to go out and find 2:26:01 interesting stuff for you to do and 2:26:03 you've got a work agent that's job is to 2:26:05 go out and research things for work so 2:26:08 that you you know rather than reading 2:26:09 the morning paper it knows what you like 2:26:11 and and you know on your way to work it 2:26:14 it calls you and you have a conversation 2:26:17 about the current events of the day and 2:26:19 then you have a vacation agent and then 2:26:21 you have an insurance agent you have all 2:26:23 these independent virtual agents 2:26:26 that are are out interacting with other 2:26:29 agents with other systems 2:26:31 and checking back in with you and 2:26:34 they're remembering all of the stuff 2:26:35 that they do so the vacation agents like 2:26:38 hey Kyle it's been it's been six months 2:26:40 since you you guys have had a vacation 2:26:42 you know are you thinking about doing 2:26:44 that anytime soon you're like oh that's 2:26:46 a good idea I forgot to do that you know 2:26:50 um 2:26:50 what do you what do you recommend and 2:26:52 then the agent might say well do you 2:26:54 want to you know do you want to do 2:26:56 something you've done before or do you 2:26:57 want to do something new oh I want to do 2:26:59 something completely new that I've never 2:27:01 thought of and it will know what you've 2:27:04 done right so this paper to me 2:27:07 I think from a gaming standpoint the 2:27:10 games are going to get really 2:27:11 interesting but then from a if you if 2:27:13 you just look at what's the ideas 2:27:15 sitting underneath this paper 2:27:18 holy [ __ ] 2:27:19 holy [ __ ] so anyway that was that was a 2:27:24 long answer to it to a question like 2:27:26 what about NPCs 2:27:28 there you go 2:27:31 yowza all right 2:27:33 archive is pronounced archive 2:27:36 it's the letter chai nice 2:27:40 cool didn't I call it archive 2:27:44 I think I did 2:27:47 looks like Legends of Zelda yeah again 2:27:49 don't mistake the artwork for how big 2:27:54 that idea is 2:27:56 on a Legend of Zelda game engine yeah 2:27:58 exactly exactly 2:28:01 that's where they'll test all this stuff 2:28:03 but I think I'm pretty sure that that 2:28:06 like like a month ago so that paper was 2:28:09 released in April and I think a month 2:28:12 ago the project came out where you can 2:28:14 actually log in and play with that thing 2:28:16 so go go Google the [ __ ] out of that 2:28:20 thing there's probably some fun stuff to 2:28:22 look at at this point 2:28:25 but now chat GPT wait now in chat EBT 2:28:29 have been playing so far useless oh 2:28:30 interesting 2:28:31 useless on the like the image reading 2:28:34 stuff yeah it's gonna be interesting to 2:28:36 see what's the thing I'm excited about 2:28:38 is the image Generation 2:28:41 Um but 2:28:42 we'll see I I think the the 2:28:46 ability for it to see is I I don't think 2:28:50 we really know what to do with that and 2:28:53 and quite frankly Bing's had that 2:28:55 capability for 2:28:58 four or five months now 2:29:00 it's just that it's in Chachi BT now it 2:29:02 seems like it's a big deal what was that 2:29:03 site again the site for the 2:29:06 um 2:29:07 for that paper is archive a r x i v 2:29:13 dot org and then search for generative 2:29:16 agents interactive 2:29:19 simulacra in fact I'll post this in the 2:29:24 um 2:29:25 I'll post this in the Discord 2:29:29 for 2:29:31 um 2:29:32 for the AI salon 2:29:34 in let's see 2:29:37 General discussion 2:29:40 um 2:29:41 this is a cool paper if you haven't 2:29:48 seen 2:29:50 it Bang 2:29:53 and if you're wondering well what's the 2:29:56 salon Discord if you go to if you're 2:29:59 interested in joining a community that 2:30:01 does cool [ __ ] 2:30:04 um the salon.ai is a group that I 2:30:08 started last December 2:30:11 um for people interested in playing 2:30:13 around with AI 2:30:14 and we have a Discord server and we have 2:30:17 bi-weekly meetups so there you go 2:30:22 um 2:30:25 girl wake up because you need to get 2:30:27 perplexity AI for this kind of stuff all 2:30:30 right you're helping one another that's 2:30:32 cool all right listen people 2:30:35 um let me see if there's any other 2:30:36 things here 2:30:38 dead out down what's the idea behind 2:30:41 this paper in your expert summary way 2:30:45 um the the idea is that the NPCs have 2:30:49 their own lives interact with one 2:30:51 another and have memory 2:30:54 and then if you if you attach that model 2:30:57 where you've got these agents that run 2:31:00 around in that case it's a game world 2:31:02 but you could see them sort of 2:31:04 navigating any world or Internet space 2:31:08 if you attach that behavior 2:31:13 if you attach that behavior to actions 2:31:17 so if you have a little agent that can 2:31:19 run around the world 2:31:21 and has access to your bank account and 2:31:23 your travel accounts and things like 2:31:24 that 2:31:25 and you've given it permission to do 2:31:27 that 2:31:28 it can just run around and do [ __ ] 2:31:30 and it can interact with another agent 2:31:32 so for example 2:31:34 in the game 2:31:36 the one dude said you know it's my 2:31:40 birthday and the other one planned a 2:31:41 party for it 2:31:43 in a real world use case you could say 2:31:45 hey you've got your travel agent is 2:31:48 going out and finding you cool vacation 2:31:50 stuff but the travel agent could 2:31:52 actually check in with the work agent 2:31:54 and say hey does Kyle have any important 2:31:57 meetings coming up that he can't miss 2:31:58 and the work agent would go oh yeah the 2:32:01 second week in October he's really busy 2:32:03 so the third week in October looks good 2:32:06 so book something then and then the 2:32:08 traveling so so the idea that these 2:32:13 these independent entities 2:32:16 can interact with one another 2:32:19 talk in natural language have their own 2:32:22 imperatives one's an artist one's a 2:32:24 farmer one's works at the store 2:32:28 and then have memories of what they 2:32:30 talked about from day to day is wholly 2:32:33 new because NPCs up to this point have 2:32:36 been hand written 2:32:38 logic like there's a writer that writes 2:32:42 the script of here's all the [ __ ] this 2:32:44 MPC can say when someone says this you 2:32:47 respond with this when someone says this 2:32:48 you respond with this and it's it's a 2:32:51 fixed set of instructions 2:32:54 and it can only move in certain places 2:32:56 it can't in operate independently on its 2:32:59 own 2:33:00 so 2:33:01 it's just it's just these things are 2:33:04 like 2:33:05 living organisms basically chat GPT on 2:33:08 iOS has voice conversations feature I 2:33:11 signed out and signed back in okay 2:33:13 and it worked okay 2:33:15 thanks retropunk that's awesome I'm 2:33:17 gonna go play with that 2:33:18 um listen it's 10 30. my voice is going 2:33:20 I'm sneezing whatever's happening shit's 2:33:24 going down oh wow that is beautiful 2:33:26 thank you Zippy Zimbo that was awesome 2:33:29 thank you very much 2:33:32 um 2:33:33 I'm out of here 2:33:34 thank you all you all are really cool so 2:33:37 let's see 2:33:38 um Jox has been in here tonight Sherry 2:33:41 Banks thank you for sharing what you're 2:33:42 doing paint similarly thanks for helping 2:33:45 out and sharing your wisdom that it 2:33:47 really does make a difference 2:33:48 uh let's see retropunk good to see you 2:33:51 uh who else we got in here 2:33:54 um beat from Firefly good night I saw 2:33:57 Silver Fox was in here for a while 2:33:59 cabruno thank you all thanks for all of 2:34:01 you who modded tonight I appreciate that 2:34:03 Clint good to see you how to partner how 2:34:06 you doing how you doing oh you're such a 2:34:09 little cutie 2:34:11 mods and Irregulars present Turtles 2:34:14 y'all are great thanks all for your time 2:34:16 I will see you tomorrow hey go play with 2:34:18 this stuff if you've got access to this 2:34:20 go start figuring it out get curious get 2:34:23 curious get curious 2:34:24 peace