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aiLL 9/27/2023 - From DOS to Conversational AI: How Far We’ve Come and Where We’re Headed

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I reflect on how rapidly artificial intelligence capabilities have advanced, from the early days of computing to today's conversational AI systems like ChatGPT, Claude, and Bard. In this September 27, 2023 broadcast, I trace the evolution of AI, marvel at what today's systems can do, and speculate on where this technology may take us next. I invite you to join me on an informed and balanced look at the risks and rewards of building more human-like AI. See the full session on my TikTok channel AI Learning Lab here: https://tiktok.com/@aiLearningLab #ai #chatgpt #future Key topics: 0:52 - My first experiences with computers and AI in the 1970s 8:13 - How ChatGPT marks a profound shift in accessibility of AI 16:48 - Comparing today's basic AI to early computer systems like DOS 25:29 - The rapid adoption of ChatGPT, reaching 100 million users in weeks 39:49 - Concerns about security, ethics and regulation of increasingly advanced AI 1:24:37 - Just how early we still are in the evolution of these systems 1:35:16 - AI's potential to transform games, music, movies and more in the near future 1:43:21 - The risks of AI democratizing sophisticated programming abilities to non-programmers 1:47:42 - Big tech companies acknowledging the need for regulation when AI becomes more advanced 1:51:07 - The implications of AI on the advertising industry's business models 1:52:59 - Kyle's perspective that we are still in the very early days of AI, likening it to the Apple II era of computing 1:59:21 - Concerns about the rapid deployment of AI before governments can regulate 2:04:15 - The potential for AI to wreak havoc on the 2024 US elections 2:11:03 - The risks of synthesized AI voices being used for social engineering hacks 2:27:23 - A paper on creating AI agents with memories and personalities as NPCs in games or personal assistants

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0:01 foreign
0:23 good evening welcome welcome welcome
0:28 hey Ted looks at life what's happening
0:29 good to see you
0:33 user
0:36 575-217-03-8542 good to see you nice
0:39 memorable name I like it it's solid
0:41 solid if you had a couple of numbers in
0:44 a row it would have thrown me the fact
0:45 that they're all different they're all
0:47 uh it's with that's Fibonacci Sequence I
0:50 like it solid it's just it's like uh
0:53 it's like a mathematician's dream
0:55 yeah yeah
1:01 what's happening
1:03 what's happening jockster it's going
1:05 down what should I cut
1:07 Lots going on
1:10 the internet is back in chat GPT except
1:12 not in my [ __ ] Chef jpt
1:16 those sons of [ __ ] I got nothing
1:19 everyone's like I can play with images I
1:22 can play with this the internet's back
1:23 and I'm looking at mine it's like
1:29 welcome everyone to the AI learning lab
1:31 this is Larry that's Larry from Larry's
1:34 uh
1:35 Larry's hedgehogs Lawn Lawn Care Service
1:39 Landscaping service
1:42 we made him last night
1:45 um let's see what else we got here what
1:48 else we want to look at yeah we'll be a
1:51 wheel let's see am I late
1:55 AI learning lab this is the AI learning
1:58 lab my name is Kyle Shannon Paul Z what
2:01 is up KS what's going down Bigfoot
2:05 Electro hello from Virginia
2:07 welcome to Virginia
2:11 what was that line it was a line of a
2:13 play I was in
2:14 called The Amazing Adventures of tense
2:16 guy
2:17 oh and one of the actors Mark Ashmore
2:20 he's [ __ ] hilarious he misread one of
2:22 the lines the line was
2:24 um get me Langley Virginia right give me
2:27 the give me the CIA headquarters or FBI
2:31 CIA FBI and he goes he goes get me
2:34 Langley Virginia he thought Virginia was
2:37 like the secretary's name pretty funny
2:40 oh man working on the comics with Dolly
2:44 and mid-journey
2:45 nice do you have do you have access to
2:47 Dolly three yet jockster I don't have
2:50 nothing I got nothing
2:53 gotta have them Winters for for for Bing
2:56 chat jpete
2:58 Chad jpt you know one of the things we
3:01 talk about here in AI learning lab is
3:07 so AI is just like nfts
3:11 except
3:12 if you give send a hundred thousand
3:15 dollars to my to my world ID with in
3:18 World coin and then uh your chat GPT
3:22 you'll make money with this is solid
3:24 gold I made this out of uh nugget a Doug
3:27 in the last Yukon
3:31 all right
3:33 so we'll let some people get in here a
3:35 lot of folks in here I learned about hey
3:37 Jen from you on the previous stream the
3:39 demo blew my mind go check out my latest
3:42 you want to see something really [ __ ]
3:45 wild go check out my latest video in my
3:48 channel is this it no that's not it hang
3:50 on look at this thing this is just this
3:53 is just getting dumb at this point man
3:56 man
3:57 all right look oh wait you can't
4:01 so
4:02 yeah so this is just a Story vine video
4:05 storyvine's my company but then look
4:07 that there's Chinese Mandarin Chinese
4:15 what's this
4:21 is
4:38 now here's one weird thing so notice
4:41 that my hand is inside my face
4:45 because what they're doing is they're
4:47 kind of synthing the lower half of your
4:49 face and then laying it on top of the
4:52 video so so they're not masking out the
4:54 hands if they go over and I'm a hand
4:56 talker so so if I'm gonna if I'm gonna
5:00 record any of these that actually you
5:02 know that I actually use for anything
5:03 other than a demo I need to not do that
5:05 but still even with this it's like
5:07 totally forgivable because it's you know
5:10 it's it's like it's like fully fluent
5:14 Chinese you know with lip movement and
5:17 it sounds like me
5:19 stories
5:38 so that's hey Jen so anyway welcome
5:41 everyone this is the AI learning lab
5:45 and my name is Kyle Shannon and we'll
5:49 get started here so generally what we do
5:51 here if you're new here
5:53 um I'm a little bit about my background
5:55 I'm an entrepreneur of
5:57 I've started enough companies that I'm
5:59 now officially not hireable anywhere
6:03 and my current gig is oh yeah this like
6:06 all story mine tonight right uh I'm the
6:09 founder and CEO of a company called
6:10 storyvine I even have a hat here look
6:13 look see this is
6:17 solid
6:19 um
6:22 so so
6:24 um
6:25 so that's my day job I've been uh kind
6:28 of deep diving into this generative AI
6:30 stuff for about oh I don't know what
6:33 two years now and and ever since chat
6:37 GPT uh I've lost my [ __ ] mind
6:41 so this channel I go live every night
6:43 here I'll answer any questions you have
6:46 um
6:47 this channel is really about the
6:49 inflection point that started on
6:51 November 30th 2022 so the launch of chat
6:53 gbt prior to that point machine learning
6:57 and AI was really the the domain of you
6:59 know data scientists and mathematicians
7:02 and researchers and engineers and after
7:04 that point
7:06 it's for the rest of us to figure out
7:08 like what are we going to do with this
7:10 stuff what are we going to do with these
7:11 tools now that these tools are in our
7:13 hands November 1st marks
7:16 um General availability of Chachi BT
7:19 inside office 365. so you're gonna have
7:21 chat EBT within word and PowerPoint and
7:25 Excel
7:26 um it's already in Windows 11. it's
7:28 already in GitHub co-pilot it's already
7:30 in all the Google uh things not gpt4
7:33 there there's his Bard but all the
7:36 Google office docs have access to this
7:38 thing called Duet which is kind of a
7:39 shitty version of it but it's going to
7:40 get better quick
7:42 um
7:44 chat GPT has gone multimodal where it
7:47 can see images now it can see
7:49 I saw a thing today a guy took a
7:51 screenshot of a computer interface and
7:55 asked chat GPT to analyze the components
7:57 of the computer interface and write the
8:00 code for the different components and it
8:02 did it and it was good
8:04 it's like wow so
8:08 we have no idea zero idea what it means
8:13 to have a tool like chat GPT when it can
8:16 now speak and listen and see and draw
8:20 and make words
8:22 and you know within some short amount of
8:24 time it'll be able to do music and video
8:26 too and you know once once we have all
8:29 of the all of the media
8:32 um you know all bets are off what what
8:34 do we do with that I don't know
8:37 um
8:38 I'm a gen xer look I have an AARP card
8:42 I uh that just came today
8:47 um
8:48 I'm a little bitter
8:50 chat GPT hasn't given me access to the
8:52 new toys yet I flip and advertise their
8:55 their silly little company every night
8:58 for like four months and they don't give
9:00 me access to the new toys really chat
9:02 gbt really
9:04 really I I made a button for you
9:09 nothing
9:11 so anyway
9:13 um if you have questions pop them in the
9:14 comments below I'll do my best to answer
9:16 them I'll go through some of these uh
9:18 some of the if you want to get started
9:20 where to start but but let's just jump
9:21 in and start answering some questions
9:26 Winston joined Dave Winston there's pate
9:31 good to see you sir good day sir good
9:35 day how are you
9:36 well I'm rather fine I do Wonder Mr
9:39 Shannon what are your qualifications no
9:42 well well now we're asking for
9:44 qualifications are we well it's I think
9:46 it's quite reasonable to wonder you know
9:47 if I'm at a learning lab what are we
9:49 learning at the lab and if you're
9:50 teaching at the lab what are your
9:52 qualifications seems a relatively
9:54 straightforward question does it not
9:56 well I suppose for you it does
9:59 all right
10:01 let's let that one hanging right there
10:03 laughs
10:07 all right all right all right I did not
10:10 see your play uh which play I do every
10:14 night here is a play
10:15 oh I learned about hey Jen for me on a
10:17 previous one we talked about that
10:19 started at 38 000 now at 20 000 in the
10:22 queue this free version is really going
10:24 to take four days to run for render I
10:26 got to pay up I know my um my Mandarin
10:29 one the the one I just showed
10:32 I got in it was like 83 000 and I think
10:35 mine took five days so yeah yeah it took
10:38 it took a while I forgot about it and
10:40 then I got an email today this morning
10:42 that said here's your Mandarin
10:44 um yeah I'm gonna pay up for that as
10:46 well because I got I got to do it for my
10:47 company because uh this is this is too
10:50 important technology not to not to have
10:53 not not to be building stuff on
10:58 um so anyway yeah exactly learning how
11:01 important using the right words for
11:03 prompts is yeah it's you know it's it's
11:06 using the right words that you
11:08 have having
11:12 being experimental and having a good
11:14 sense of
11:15 language logic is definitely an
11:18 advantage
11:20 um but one of the things that you can
11:22 either do also do
11:24 um uh Harrow Herod Herod is is one of
11:29 the Irregulars here
11:31 um and and he came on the other night
11:33 and was talking about the fact the other
11:35 thing that you can do is you can have
11:36 chat GPT help you write prompts for
11:39 itself
11:40 so if you're getting stuck on the if
11:43 you're you know if you're getting
11:44 twisted up on the on the language stuff
11:45 and I don't really know how to ask this
11:47 and what to do
11:48 ask Chachi PT how how
11:51 what's the best prompt that you could
11:54 give it to get a certain
11:57 um result
11:58 and let it write the prompt or or you
12:00 write a prompt and say instead of
12:02 answering this prompt I want you to
12:04 critique it and tell me how you would
12:06 improve it to get a stronger answer or a
12:09 more clear answer or whatever that is
12:11 let it write it
12:13 let it write it all right
12:16 this one feels vastly more complex than
12:19 Anglo-Saxon European languages
12:20 impressive I know well that's so so
12:23 that's the thing about
12:25 these the Transformer models and the way
12:28 all of this technology works it's
12:30 [ __ ] magic it's not it's it's all
12:33 mathematics
12:35 um but the result right the Arthur C
12:38 Clarke quote any sufficiently advanced
12:41 technology is indistinguishable from
12:44 Magic
12:45 so they train these models on the
12:48 different languages
12:50 and whether it's word languages or
12:53 spoken languages
12:55 and
12:58 you know or or uh you know voice
13:00 synthesis right or you know music or
13:03 images
13:04 and then when you put in your prompt and
13:06 they marry that large language model to
13:09 that other whether it's a diffusion
13:10 model or or you know the audio stuff
13:13 and it just I don't know
13:16 it mythically pulls the [ __ ] out of The
13:19 Ether mathematically it's it's it's it's
13:21 it's absolutely incredible
13:24 you know it's it's not I think from a
13:27 machine learning point of view
13:28 I don't think I I'm curious if pay
13:32 you're in here
13:33 is is is is training a large line or not
13:37 a large language model is is training a
13:39 machine learning model
13:40 if we're talking about audio you know
13:43 synthesis stuff here is it any harder to
13:45 train it on Mandarin Chinese than it is
13:48 on Italian or it is on English I assume
13:50 it's the same thing
13:52 it's more complicated for us because we
13:56 have these tiny [ __ ] filet mignons in
13:59 our head
14:01 we can't take everything in at once
14:05 oh man mods in Irregulars present
14:09 Turtles
14:10 good evening Irregulars I hope you're
14:12 all well tonight
14:14 curious about this hello Kyle hello
14:16 Apocrypha how are you
14:19 I just started using docchio Turtle Army
14:23 throwing all my privacy concerns out the
14:26 window but I can find files you know I
14:29 listen I'm I'm being careful with my
14:32 with my uh my client data
14:35 um
14:36 but I but at this point I just feel like
14:39 I'm just putting it out there so yeah
14:41 I'm right there with you
14:44 I figure you know I'm not doing anything
14:46 all that particularly interesting right
14:48 now like from from a privacy standpoint
14:51 so like I feel like the value of what
14:55 I'm contributing to the world of machine
14:57 learning and prompt engineering is low
15:00 value enough that you know open AI ain't
15:02 ain't siphoning my ideas off you know if
15:06 that's even a concern right so I you
15:09 know
15:10 this is this is all like everything
15:13 we're doing these days is temporary
15:15 anyway right all the because like like
15:17 as these new models change it's it's
15:19 gonna get
15:20 um
15:21 you know the the thing that that we
15:23 thought was the perfect prompt three
15:26 weeks ago is not is going to be useless
15:29 now because there's it's just a
15:31 completely different thing I keep
15:32 checking my settings here to see if I
15:35 get any extra I got nothing
15:37 I got no I got no brows with Bing I got
15:41 no image upload
15:43 nothing my my uh open AI Chachi PT app
15:47 doesn't have the voice thing in it I got
15:50 nothing people nothing
15:52 anybody here have it anybody here got
15:55 the the extra good and chewy new stuff
15:59 how would we know if we have dally three
16:02 access I don't know policy I'll tell you
16:05 I got the new co-pilot on Startup today
16:08 and it had chosen a turtle for a
16:10 background that's [ __ ] awesome silver
16:13 fox
16:14 that's great so you got very suspect you
16:16 so you got
16:18 um that's co-pilot for Windows 11 right
16:20 I'm curious what that does
16:23 uh oh cool I've been keeping that tab
16:26 open too I was afraid to close it yeah I
16:28 think it's tied to your account and it's
16:30 I assume what they're doing is just sort
16:32 of batching you know batching accounts
16:35 with the with the new you know they're
16:36 probably doing 10 000 Accounts at a time
16:38 you know every 15 minutes they'll do
16:40 another I mean I don't who knows how
16:42 they're rolling that [ __ ] out but that's
16:43 probably what's going on
16:45 qualifications AI picked me out of a
16:49 lineup to study my neural Pathways
16:51 exactly
16:54 um I just booted up not sure yet what's
16:57 up oh okay that's cool
17:02 um but apparently Silver Fox you can do
17:04 things like you know
17:06 put my system into dark mode or don't
17:09 make my system go to sleep you know
17:11 after five minutes make it 15.
17:14 it can do
17:17 all the [ __ ] that you normally have to
17:18 go set up in your settings it'll just go
17:21 do that
17:24 there's a new project out called open
17:26 interpreter which is like code
17:28 interpreter that you can install into
17:30 your system
17:32 and I've installed it in mine but it's I
17:34 haven't really played with it
17:36 I'm waiting I'm waiting for the the kind
17:38 of sexier commercial version of this
17:39 [ __ ] I feel like George drill sergeant
17:43 when I do that Turtle present turtles by
17:47 the way if you're wondering why uh
17:48 people are talking about turtles it's
17:50 because they force me on a nightly basis
17:54 to play
17:56 a video
17:58 oh do I not have internet
18:00 um this looks suspect
18:03 I wonder if my edge browser has crashed
18:08 oh Microsoft
18:12 what just happened
18:16 huh I think I quit it all right Edge
18:28 all right let's see I like
18:35 uh
18:36 [Music]
18:38 this is for all of you
18:41 back here live at the waterfront village
18:43 with my friend the zombie Jonathan
18:45 you're looking good Jonathan just got an
18:47 awesome face paint job what do you think
18:49 I like turtles all right you're great
18:52 zombie and good times here
19:02 not really Kyle which is your turtle
19:04 Army that makes me feel better you
19:07 weirdos y'all weirdos I love it I like
19:11 it I like it I like it all right all
19:13 right all right all right let's see what
19:16 other questions we got here
19:18 do a regulars truly exist if when there
19:21 are no turtles there to perceive them uh
19:24 we don't get that philosophical here
19:25 Winston we can't when we start asking
19:27 questions we don't want to know the
19:29 answer to it goes south really quick
19:32 we just we just we just stumble through
19:34 life here at the AI learning lab we
19:36 don't want to be conscious of anything
19:38 right now
19:39 actually you know that's kind of funny I
19:41 love I love how it makes you giggle
19:43 every time it does you know it's it is
19:46 it is the kid because it's so unexpected
19:49 but it's the reporter trying to keep it
19:51 together that is the thing that just
19:53 busts me up every time okay good zombie
20:00 ah
20:01 you can't that's you can't teach that in
20:03 acting class man that level of
20:06 spontaneity is just that's gold
20:09 all right let's see
20:13 so your hunch is right it's not easier
20:15 ah okay pate it's not easier to
20:18 translate to languages that are related
20:21 yeah so
20:24 so to the machine learning models like
20:26 once these things go into Vector space
20:29 it's actually quite a simple operation
20:32 well I don't know how simple it is
20:33 technically but it's simple conceptually
20:36 you write a prompt and it turns into you
20:40 know
20:41 a probability within this thousand
20:44 Dimension Vector space and some point in
20:47 that Vector space is the highest
20:49 probability thing and whether that's a
20:51 word or whether that's a
20:53 I don't know points to some sort of uh
20:56 noised up image in a diffusion model
21:00 um it just does its thing it's it really
21:03 is remarkable how this Tech works
21:06 is there an art renderer for 3D design
21:09 well there there are some quasi ones
21:13 um and and there have been a bunch of
21:15 white papers on taking objects like
21:18 mid-journey images and turning them into
21:20 3D objects
21:21 there hasn't been like a big like
21:24 mid-journey type tool released yet that
21:27 automatically generates 3D objects that
21:30 I know of what I would do if I were you
21:33 because it's very possible that
21:35 something has been released and I don't
21:37 know about it so if anyone in here knows
21:38 about it something like that let me know
21:41 but what I would do also is go to
21:46 futurepedia.io that's like a list of
21:49 like I don't know it's got to be four
21:51 thousand forty two hundred forty five
21:52 hundred tools at this point those are a
21:54 bunch of AI tools just go there I'm sure
21:57 there's a 3D section or I'm sure there's
21:59 a a something section
22:02 um there are likely applications that
22:05 that
22:06 um let you do natural language input
22:08 that
22:10 um generate 3D objects in a in a program
22:13 like Unity
22:15 that probably exists but if you're
22:17 talking about just make me an apple and
22:19 it makes you an apple like like
22:20 mid-journey but it's a 3D object I don't
22:23 think that's there yet but I could be
22:24 very wrong
22:25 what company do you own sir it is a
22:28 company called storyvine in fact
22:31 I got the little URL right there right
22:34 there it is storevine.com oh yeah
22:38 I bought that in the in the in 1990s
22:43 news Vine was big at the time
22:46 and I had an idea for the company that
22:50 became storybine and I thought storybine
22:52 that's really good and I bought that I
22:55 paid it off over two years
22:58 so
23:00 fancy that
23:02 um
23:03 [Music]
23:06 meta announcements today VR glasses and
23:09 headset oh VR glasses yeah the Ray-Ban
23:12 glasses the headset
23:14 which I can't I cannot believe I heard
23:16 one little clip of the meta thing and
23:19 the dude from meta said we're gonna have
23:22 the world's cheapest spatial Computing
23:25 glasses
23:27 meta used apples terminology
23:32 they were everyone was calling it The
23:34 metaverse
23:36 meta changed their [ __ ] name to meta
23:40 and today a dude from meta
23:44 called
23:45 the thing that those Goggles do spatial
23:49 Computing goggles
23:53 oh my god do they not have a PR for like
23:56 just does Zuckerberg like need a loan
23:59 for a PR firm
24:02 I don't know maybe they cut some deal
24:04 with Apple or something like that but
24:05 that just blew my mind that they did
24:07 that that guy said that
24:09 uh yeah the meta AI assistant and the
24:12 Tom Brady bot and there's like there's a
24:14 yeah they yeah meta today announced all
24:17 these like
24:18 um personality Bots like one is the
24:21 dungeon master and it's Snoop Dogg I I
24:23 don't know that D and D players are
24:26 thinking Snoop Dogg although probably be
24:27 kind of cool to play D D with Snoop Dogg
24:30 but
24:32 oh man I don't know man meta seems like
24:36 they're all over the place I I just I I
24:39 keep every time I see their product
24:41 launches I'm like who is their target
24:44 audience it's like it's like they don't
24:46 have one and it's like our target
24:48 audience is everyone you know here's a
24:51 consumer toy here's this here's that
24:53 here's a piece of important technology
24:56 uh but yeah Big announcements today big
24:58 announcements for meta
25:01 um this Chachi PT stuff's rolling out
25:04 the Microsoft stuff is coming the Gemini
25:06 stuff is coming soon
25:09 um it's gonna be a wild October November
25:12 December I think
25:13 crazy crazy crazy it's gonna be crazy
25:17 um listen if you're new here if you have
25:19 not played with chat GPT
25:22 what we talk about here is generative Ai
25:25 and kind of the the little poster child
25:27 right now
25:29 of that technology is chat TPT
25:33 they're the ones that got this ball
25:34 rolling down the hill really fast so
25:37 chat.openai.com that's the official
25:39 website right there just go there and
25:41 start playing while while I'm rambling
25:43 on here look at Harper Chrome extension
25:46 plug-in for YouTube videos transcript
25:48 and mind map oh I I saw that today I saw
25:52 a tick tock video on that today of
25:53 someone that showed that mind map thing
25:55 yeah it's pretty cool that's pretty cool
25:57 we'll we'll see how uh
26:00 how like once once these tools get
26:02 multimodal and and I have a sneaking
26:05 suspicion that Gemini Google's new bard
26:10 under under engine underbelly I have a
26:13 sneaking suspicion it's going to have
26:14 some pretty tight YouTube Integrations I
26:17 I have a feeling it was trained on
26:18 YouTube
26:19 which is why it's probably really good
26:21 um what do you mean paid it off over two
26:24 years I thought it's a monthly payment
26:25 no no no some dude owned storyvine.com
26:31 and I agreed to pay him seventy five
26:33 hundred dollars and I didn't have
26:34 seventy five hundred dollars so I said I
26:37 forget what I paid him like 200 bucks a
26:40 month for
26:41 I don't know however long it took
26:42 whatever or whatever two years is into 7
26:46 500 bucks
26:48 um
26:49 so yeah that was that that was that I
26:53 forget the name but ten thousand percent
26:54 yes not sure what that's about but cool
26:57 Luna stick hola what's happening
27:05 Zippy zambo good name I like it what's
27:09 the best domain registry to purchase a
27:11 domain name website safely surely I
27:15 don't know I buy my ship from
27:17 GoDaddy or Network Solutions just
27:19 because I'm old Network Network
27:21 Solutions was like this
27:23 quasi-governmental thing for a long time
27:25 and then it turned into that and then
27:27 GoDaddy I hate because it's it it was so
27:32 like commercial and weird for a while
27:33 but it's it's kind of normalized now so
27:36 I don't really [ __ ] around with them I
27:38 bought
27:39 um I bought storyvine.ai from whatever
27:41 the [ __ ] registry you've gotta bait pay
27:45 the 200 bucks for the AI
27:47 top level domain
27:50 um
27:51 I don't know I I'm not big into that
27:54 game I don't I don't know that game at
27:56 all I just I just wanted that domain
27:58 because I had an idea for a company and
28:00 then I went and started the company and
28:01 now it's an 11 and a half year old
28:03 company storybine we've been around for
28:05 a while
28:07 we are out there
28:12 all right oh Zippy zambo that is awesome
28:16 thank you very much I appreciate that
28:19 Meadow throws out lots of stuff hoping
28:22 something will stick to the wall then
28:23 they run with it yeah that makes sense I
28:25 suppose it just it it feels like that
28:27 you know this channel is like chat add I
28:29 feel like meta is like product add it's
28:32 like it's like here's 30 things you want
28:34 one
28:35 uh
28:37 okay
28:39 got Windows 11 co-pilot today it's Bing
28:43 on your toolbar very cool
28:50 all right so here's what I'm gonna do
28:52 I'm gonna go
28:54 I'm gonna walk through some things here
28:55 so if you're new to the channel
28:58 I'm gonna I'm gonna walk you through a
28:59 list of
29:01 tools that I think are worth your time
29:03 to explore
29:05 and if you if you'd be so kind
29:09 um go ahead and share the share their
29:11 lives so we can get the word out there
29:12 too bit more people some more people
29:15 that would be good
29:17 and you know tap the screen if you've
29:19 got some Irregulars in here start
29:22 playing your game see if we can get the
29:23 get some folks in here
29:25 um so so what I'd suggest if you're if
29:28 you're brand new to this stuff
29:29 screenshot I'm gonna go through I think
29:32 it's four or five slides here
29:34 um of just tools that I think are worth
29:36 playing with right now
29:38 um this is what I call the adult table
29:40 so these are the top three tools that
29:42 I'm using pretty consistently now
29:44 although Bard probably not as much I use
29:46 the top two a lot
29:48 uh the top one is chat GPT
29:52 um depending on oh thank you very much
29:55 that was a cool one I don't think I've
29:56 seen that one before
29:58 um depending on if you uh pay for uh
30:01 chat GPT plus you may or may not have
30:04 access to their new
30:06 um chat gptv which is V is for vision
30:09 where it can see stuff you can upload
30:11 images to it
30:13 um
30:14 and they also brought back browse with
30:16 Bing internet connection today so so
30:19 um I don't have I can't show you either
30:21 of those because I don't have them yet
30:23 but
30:25 this is about to get
30:27 um much more sophisticated really
30:29 quickly Claude is by a company called
30:32 anthropic who's a bunch of ex-open AI
30:34 people who started a competitor and they
30:37 just got invested in by Amazon to the
30:40 tune of four billion dollars well 1.4
30:42 billion 1.5 billion with a four billion
30:45 dollar you know a possible total
30:47 investment
30:48 and then Bard is Google's entry into
30:51 this space it's connected to the
30:53 internet and
30:55 they've got this thing coming out called
30:57 Gemini which I assume is going to sit
30:59 underneath that thing and they claim
31:02 it's like five times better than gpt4
31:05 and like eight times bigger and I don't
31:07 know they're they're all swinging there
31:11 we Willie winkies at each other
31:15 mine's bigger than yours though mine's
31:17 bigger than yours well mine can do
31:19 multimodal now mine can do multimodal
31:22 there's a lot of that going on right now
31:23 so the good news is we're the
31:25 beneficiaries of it but it's a little
31:27 exhausting okay so that's that page oh
31:29 and then prompts.chat that's just a
31:31 little document it's like a little
31:32 primer document that talks to you about
31:35 how these large language models work how
31:38 to talk to them it gives you some
31:39 prompts you can copy and paste it'll
31:41 give you a lot of ideas
31:43 um so so that's that stuff
31:44 okay
31:46 um this is what I call the kids table so
31:49 these are are ones that I think are a
31:51 little uh
31:54 less useful on a day-to-day basis but
31:57 still really interesting
31:59 so bing.com is in the doghouse that's
32:02 why it's dark gray and you can barely
32:05 see it
32:06 um because the safety guard rails on it
32:08 just make it a steaming pile of poo
32:10 right now
32:12 um perplexity.ai is a really interesting
32:14 site and service labs.perplexity is free
32:17 hosting of meta's llama 2 models so
32:20 that's worth going and playing around my
32:22 mine looks like a rocket exactly Silver
32:25 Fox exactly mine looks like a rocket
32:28 well I have a very tall rocket I'm
32:30 flying to Mars
32:32 it's exhausting
32:34 um
32:36 Pi Pi dot a I
32:38 um that's a company called inflection
32:40 they just raised 1.3 billion dollars so
32:43 that's going to be a significant player
32:44 if you download the PI app
32:47 um you can put it into conversation mode
32:49 and just talk to it it's connected to
32:51 the internet and you can talk to one of
32:53 these GPT models it's designed for
32:55 conversation it's really interesting for
32:57 that and then Poe is one where you can
33:00 play with multiple models in the same
33:01 interface and it's got a bot maker and
33:04 and so so that's it so those are the
33:06 seven
33:06 large language model things I think are
33:08 worth playing with right now this list
33:11 the you know these two lists
33:14 um are probably going to get shaken up
33:16 here in a week or two because just
33:19 shit's changing
33:21 so that's the that's the word stuff now
33:23 the picture stuff
33:25 um if you want to make pitches
33:27 again this is going to change
33:29 probably in a week this list will not be
33:32 the same so if if you want this list
33:35 screenshot it now because it's gonna go
33:37 away this could be a collector's item we
33:40 could turn it into an nft you can buy an
33:43 nft and then
33:46 exactly you see that's what this channel
33:49 is really about what this really is is a
33:51 multi-level Market I mean a pyramid
33:53 scheme
33:54 and you level up and when you level up
33:57 your downline gets into your up upline
34:00 as your the upline is the in the
34:02 downline and anyway all right
34:05 so
34:07 there's people in here going is this
34:09 really a multi-level marketing scheme oh
34:12 Winston Winston knows how to pay Winston
34:14 knows how to get make it rain in here
34:16 you see what I'm saying
34:18 see what I'm saying this is not this is
34:20 not a game people
34:22 it's not a game
34:24 always be prompting
34:29 I I got nothing tonight just just bear
34:32 with me
34:33 um okay
34:35 um mid-journey in terms of quality is
34:38 the best of these of these image
34:39 generation tools ideogram
34:42 is not great at the image generation but
34:44 it's really good well not really good it
34:47 is the first of these large language
34:49 models that can do words like that
34:51 and that and that and that and that and
34:55 that and that and that all these were
34:57 done in ideogram
34:59 all of the tools
35:01 in AI right now are janky pieces of [ __ ]
35:05 thank you to one of the Irregulars who
35:06 made me that it's lovely
35:08 that was made in ideogram
35:12 um
35:13 leonardo.ai is is a really good
35:15 interface if you want a good powerful
35:17 interface on top of stable diffusion but
35:20 you don't want to figure out how to
35:21 install automatic 1111 in a Google
35:24 collab notebook because you didn't get a
35:27 computer science degree and you're like
35:30 can I just make pictures you can at
35:32 Leonardo
35:35 um heygen.com that's the one that I
35:38 showed earlier that uh you know I'm
35:41 speaking Chinese
35:43 foreign
35:50 .com actually labs.hagen.com and there's
35:54 a video translate tool there
35:56 um and then
35:57 um Adobe Firefly and Photoshop
35:59 generative fill if you've got Creative
36:01 Cloud licenses they have now generally
36:03 released their generative generative AI
36:05 tools so they're available for
36:07 commercial use and they haven't been
36:09 trained on copywritten work so if you're
36:12 in a company if you're in a corporation
36:14 Adobe Firefly and and Photoshop
36:16 generative feeling good
36:18 openart.ai promptbook thank you
36:21 apocryphal Apocrypha
36:24 um thank you very much
36:26 um
36:28 The Prompt book thing there will teach
36:29 you how to talk to these image models
36:32 it's designed for stable diffusion but
36:34 it'll work for all of them because
36:35 they're all basically the same
36:37 technology
36:38 um
36:40 I'm also the one of the co-hosts of a
36:43 thing called the AI Salon which is a
36:45 community of AI adventurers and we've
36:48 got a Discord channel so if if you want
36:50 a place to hang out and talk to people
36:52 that are into this AI stuff and you want
36:55 to ask questions last night at the we we
36:58 have a meeting every two weeks last
37:00 night was our our uh our bi-weekly
37:02 meeting and we launched this thing
37:04 called guilds so they're they're sub
37:06 communities within the salon so we've
37:08 got a writing Guild and a making Art
37:12 Guild and a AI 101 Guild it's really
37:15 cool so go to the salon.ai the links are
37:18 there for that
37:20 um what else oh I've been invited by
37:23 another content creator named Rhonda
37:26 Phillips who's got a community of
37:29 creative professionals she's a voice
37:30 actress and a creative coach
37:32 and so I'm doing a
37:36 um Workshop that actually starts a week
37:38 from tonight called the AI launch pad so
37:41 it's it's a it's a workshop for AI for
37:44 creatives
37:46 um over three weeks it's two hours once
37:48 a week on a Wednesday night starting
37:50 next Wednesday
37:52 and what time is it seven to nine
37:55 Eastern so that's five to seven
37:58 that's five to seven mountain time where
38:00 I am so I'll still I'll still do my Tick
38:02 Tock lives even though I'm doing
38:03 workshops
38:05 um starting next week on Wednesdays
38:08 um and it's gonna be good we're gonna do
38:09 kind of an intro to AI it's the first
38:12 Workshop applying generative AI to your
38:15 business is the second workshop and then
38:17 Advanced AI like you know voice
38:19 synthesis and animation and video and
38:22 things like that is going to be the
38:23 third Workshop so it should be a lot of
38:24 fun so the information's there at
38:26 Rhonda's voice.com events and then what
38:30 else I think that's about it that's good
38:32 that's good that's a good place to start
38:34 if you if you have questions about AI
38:36 pop them in the comments below I'll do
38:38 my best to answer them we've got some
38:39 some mods in here we call them the
38:42 Irregulars they just show up here night
38:44 after night and harass me they don't
38:46 harass me they they they they are
38:48 incredibly supportive and and awesome
38:50 and so thank you all whoever's modding
38:52 tonight thank you for doing that
38:55 um sorry had an add moment had to throw
38:57 some garbage out I'm back
39:01 chat add
39:07 um I like taters taters tasty
39:11 they call it a sling blade
39:14 oh that's Ally That's Ali right there
39:18 Ali the AI learning lab
39:20 she's so cute
39:23 all right we'll put her right there
39:26 ion China good evening Bigfoot Electro
39:29 that's hilarious
39:31 Amway Amway AI exactly exactly this is
39:36 this is the multi-level every time you
39:39 do a prompt every time someone in your
39:41 downline does a prompt you get a tenth
39:44 of a penny now if you just had to make
39:45 10 million prompts you'd have a million
39:48 bucks oh no you wouldn't you'd have a
39:50 hundred thousand I don't know I'm not
39:51 good at math but Chad gbt could tell you
39:54 that
39:59 um
40:01 all right now I just sent out to my
40:04 friends and said not a money thing
40:09 that's really funny and then they come
40:11 in that's it's one of my joys in life is
40:13 is when I do one of my stupid characters
40:15 just knowing that someone is sort of
40:17 flicking through Tick Tock and just
40:18 seeing like how do you work this thing
40:20 March is this is this tick tock on
40:23 foreign
40:25 oh man
40:27 all right let's see it's so exciting to
40:30 see the changes happening so fast pretty
40:31 much daily yeah it's you know I kind of
40:34 feel like
40:37 kind of from mid-july to August things
40:40 kind of stabilized like there weren't it
40:43 wasn't like this daily barrage I feel
40:45 like
40:46 you know January through March we're
40:48 just [ __ ] insane where it was just
40:50 daily daily announcements of just crazy
40:53 crazy stuff and then it lulled for a
40:56 little bit and then May and June got big
40:58 again and then kind of July and August
41:00 it got a little normal and boy
41:04 yeah
41:05 man the uh what's coming like September
41:08 was decently quiet but but you heard we
41:10 started hearing some Rumblings of what
41:12 was going on
41:13 and uh
41:16 yeah I just you know the thing for me
41:19 about about what's going on with all
41:21 these changes is just
41:24 I feel like all of us like myself
41:26 included like I kind of had my head
41:29 around
41:30 okay so so given what these things are I
41:33 kind of get what they are and I kind of
41:35 get where their limitations are and I
41:37 kind of get how I can use them in my
41:38 business
41:40 and now I'm like okay I no longer know
41:43 where the limitations are and no longer
41:45 know where the boundaries are when
41:48 Gemini comes out from Google if indeed
41:50 it's even as good as chat gpt4 much less
41:54 better than chat gbt4
41:56 if it's as good as
41:58 well where is it as good as is it is it
42:02 better at coding is it better at
42:04 language is it better at you know doing
42:06 basic math does it hallucinate less does
42:09 it hallucinate more
42:11 is it is it tightly integrated with
42:14 YouTube which could completely transform
42:16 the kind of applications you could
42:18 create like like so I just feel like you
42:21 know I've mentioned before that I feel
42:23 like the the stage of the industry we're
42:25 at right now is this primordial soup
42:27 right and it's and it's like that thick
42:30 sort of bloop you know and and I think
42:33 we're just like right now we're just
42:34 about to have like one of the bubbles
42:36 sort of come up and go bloop and just
42:38 shoot [ __ ] everywhere and just kind of
42:41 upset upset what what seemed like
42:43 equilibrium for a moment there so yeah
42:46 it's just crazy just crazy so
42:49 um it's one of the other things that I
42:50 talk about a lot on this channel is
42:53 if what you're looking for right now is
42:56 what's the best course I should take or
42:58 what's the best like who's the expert
43:00 who's the this who's there are no
43:02 experts right now like even the workshop
43:03 that I'm going to teach starting in a
43:05 week
43:06 like I'm thinking long and hard about
43:08 what I actually teach there because if I
43:10 teach anything too Tactical
43:12 it's going to be useless in six months
43:15 right but if I teach if it's too
43:17 esoteric and just like you know be Zen
43:20 with with your exploration of AI then
43:23 that's completely useless I I need to
43:25 sort of you know figure out how to how
43:27 to walk that thread but I would say be
43:31 very very skeptical of anyone right now
43:33 that claims to be an expert at this
43:36 stuff no one is an expert at this and
43:38 then on the flip side of that coin if
43:41 you're feeling like oh I'm so far behind
43:43 I don't know what I'm doing and I'm not
43:45 technical that it doesn't matter
43:48 you're not behind we're all behind right
43:51 these these tools are coming at us
43:53 they're coming at us hard
43:55 what they make possible we have no idea
43:59 what five years out looks like much less
44:02 you know even a year out
44:05 um so you're not behind and the whole
44:08 purpose of this channel is just to say
44:10 welcome welcome to the madness it was
44:13 funny I got a I got a direct message
44:15 from someone today that said
44:18 um you know I stumbled on your channel
44:19 and you know I was really resistant to
44:22 AI so like she was in a she was in in
44:24 this sort of demonization place of like
44:26 ai's evil ai's bad and she said she's
44:30 slowly coming around to oh maybe this is
44:32 just a tool and I need to start
44:34 experimenting with it and you know it's
44:36 this isn't so black and white it's not
44:38 black and white these things are
44:40 profoundly powerful and very flawed
44:42 they're there there's things that they
44:44 do really horribly just bad they're just
44:47 not good and then there's other things
44:49 that they do that are face meltingly
44:51 powerful
44:53 the thing about them is that
44:56 as
44:58 as flawed as they are right now
45:01 how they are today is as bad as they're
45:03 ever going to be
45:06 they only get better from here
45:09 so start
45:11 understanding what they are and how they
45:14 work and it will serve you I'm telling
45:16 you I feel like it's the next 18 months
45:20 anyone anyone right we we've had a
45:23 couple of people in here uh more than
45:26 one person that have come in and like
45:27 I'm in retirement but I'm think I'm
45:29 coming out now like I'm into this let's
45:31 let's do something
45:33 like there's a lot of people right now
45:34 rediscovering a passion for something
45:39 because we're at the birth
45:42 of a thing that I think we all
45:44 instinctively know is gonna
45:45 fundamentally transform how we do
45:48 business the definition of work
45:51 the definition of productivity the the
45:55 the it's going to completely upset the
45:57 apple cart in where the value is in the
45:59 value chain
46:03 and so we're all just trying to figure
46:04 it out it's tremendously exciting it's
46:07 tremendously terrifying like I you know
46:10 I
46:12 it's funny you know you talk to some
46:13 people and they're just like absolutely
46:15 scared or they're absolutely pissed off
46:17 and then you talk to other people and
46:18 they're absolutely excited and they're
46:20 all like ah far out it's gonna stay yeah
46:22 I tend to lean more toward that side but
46:25 where I find myself is I'm both right
46:29 like it's like this is tremendously
46:31 exciting and holy [ __ ] is that scary
46:35 what does it mean if the advertising
46:38 industry
46:40 loses the time and materials model that
46:44 their entire industry is founded on
46:47 what does that mean
46:50 I don't know
46:53 does it mean the big holding companies
46:54 right now
46:56 flail if they don't adopt fixed pricing
47:01 Maybe
47:04 how long can they hold on to that model
47:08 of here's 50 copywriters sitting in a
47:11 pen working on your Social Media stuff
47:13 we're going to charge you you know 120
47:15 ah dinosaur that's very good that's very
47:18 very good exactly
47:22 how many Kodak moments
47:24 are happening right now I they're
47:28 happening in universities they're
47:30 happening in companies
47:33 you know the Kodak moment right they
47:35 [ __ ] invented the digital camera
47:41 and the engineers came in and said
47:43 he has a digital camera sirs bah humbug
47:48 pixels we're in the silver halide
47:52 business
47:56 10 years later 20 years later they're
47:58 out of business
48:00 how many moments are gonna happen you
48:03 know
48:04 this year next year the following year
48:07 where
48:08 arrogance and hubris of well we're us
48:11 this won't affect us
48:16 and then some Punky little
48:18 20-somethings or 30 somethings or a pile
48:21 of gen xers are going to get into a room
48:23 together and they're gonna huh what if
48:25 we started a 10 person company
48:28 just to [ __ ] with the ad industry
48:33 you have a bunch of EX ad execs that
48:35 that know how to Market and how to [ __ ]
48:37 with the ad they know where all the soft
48:38 spots are on the armadillo
48:42 I mean sounds kind of fun to me
48:48 and then how many of those 10 person
48:49 shops are going to turn into 100 person
48:51 shops and then 500 person shops and that
48:54 500 person shop
48:56 can do the work at the same or better
48:59 quality than a 50 000 person holding
49:02 company
49:07 everything is relevant that you're doing
49:09 I'm going through the YouTube videos oh
49:11 awesome Obi-Wan yeah so oh that I forgot
49:14 to say that so
49:15 um
49:17 I'm making archives of these lives
49:20 because you know it's funny these these
49:22 are I mean
49:24 they're at least preserving moments in
49:26 history right like like like
49:28 everything before tonight
49:31 um Chachi PT was just text and
49:33 everything from kind of tonight forward
49:35 Chachi pitian just text anymore like
49:39 it's going to be interesting to be able
49:40 to go back and say what were we talking
49:42 about when chat GPT was just text oh
49:44 yeah we were talking about prompt
49:46 engineering that seemed like a big deal
49:47 huh we don't even think about prompting
49:49 anymore now the tool the fairies just go
49:52 off and do our work for us right uh
49:56 madcap thank you Kyle for doing this I'm
49:58 sure you helped much more than you know
50:01 by your
50:04 honesty oh thank you very much I
50:05 appreciate that yeah I try listen I one
50:09 of my pet peeves in life and in business
50:11 is the gratuitous use of Technology
50:14 um I hate it I think the This Crowd
50:20 I just want to smash my phone every time
50:23 I hear that and see that
50:26 um
50:28 you know this this is not this is not
50:30 black and white right now it's not ai's
50:33 great or it's not ai's evil
50:36 and it's not generative ai's perfect and
50:38 it's not these things are gonna it's
50:40 it's not any of that it's just that
50:44 if you pay attention to what the tools
50:46 are doing and how they're doing it
50:49 in my lifetime
50:52 from my understanding of computers I I
50:56 wrote my first line of basic
50:59 in uh
51:01 seventh grade in
51:04 1977.
51:06 and so I kind of knew about computers
51:08 before that and then I got into them
51:10 then
51:13 and everything about everything that I
51:15 know about computers
51:20 requires
51:22 human beings
51:26 to think logically
51:28 about
51:31 how to get the machines to do what they
51:33 want and they have to think of the logic
51:35 and they have to write the logic and
51:37 they have to Branch it and they have to
51:38 do these hierarchies
51:42 and this generative AI stuff is not that
51:47 it's some of How It's trained is a lot
51:50 of that but
51:53 the the fact that we can use our our
51:56 natural language our native languages
51:58 English in my case
52:00 as a programming language
52:03 just changes everything it changes
52:06 [ __ ] everything
52:09 right
52:10 because right now
52:12 right now it doesn't seem like that
52:14 maybe maybe sort of how profound it is
52:17 that you can say you know write me a
52:20 poem or write me a python application or
52:22 write me this or write me that it
52:24 doesn't seem that profound because
52:26 Chachi BT is kind of like this little
52:28 this little you know hermetically sealed
52:31 tool off to the side right we're still
52:34 doing our business and we still think
52:36 about writing papers and writing emails
52:38 and thinking about problem solving in
52:41 our business oh and then maybe I'll go
52:42 over here and play with chat GPT right
52:44 it's this thing off to the side
52:46 as these things get more integrated into
52:48 what we do
52:53 it will increasingly be that you just
52:56 ask for what you want and the machines
52:58 will go do it for you
53:00 and sort of bring you back the results
53:02 and then you just go no
53:04 Bad Bad Robot flick
53:07 or brilliant robot great
53:11 what does that mean
53:14 it's crazy ask ER yeah Sherry Banks I uh
53:17 my first uh computer was a trash 80.
53:21 hang on look I've got a do I have it
53:23 here
53:24 is it that hang on
53:27 let me get the the presentation up
53:32 um
53:33 [Music]
53:44 so this is this is the the beginning of
53:47 uh of another one of these two weeks
53:50 from now
53:51 um
53:52 this is my first day of math class in
53:55 1977. I walked into my classroom and it
53:59 kind of looked like this this is a
54:01 mid-journey representation of a 1970s
54:04 classroom with a computer on every desk
54:06 and on the desks were trash 80s that
54:10 that model right there with the Dual
54:12 floppy drives and the orange the the
54:14 orange on button
54:16 and the big giant clackety keys
54:19 and the first thing that we learned was
54:22 L print which you could print a line of
54:24 text to screen and my buddy Scott
54:26 buchart and I we made an animation of
54:29 ASCII art of a Rocket taking off back to
54:32 back to Rockets right mine looks like a
54:34 rocket
54:35 um we made an animation of an ASCII
54:38 rocket it was like a Saturn V like you
54:40 know scrolling up on the screen and then
54:41 the plumes of fire came out at the
54:43 bottom we were so proud of that and it
54:45 was one command we learned one command
54:47 and we were making cool animations with
54:50 it
54:51 um
54:52 and yeah and this was I I mean the the
54:55 thing that I was acutely aware of when I
54:57 was in seventh grade
55:00 was that
55:02 that machine as I learned with that
55:04 machine did I like what hit me was oh
55:07 [ __ ] this is like the printing press
55:10 and
55:12 I'm just too young to have been in on
55:15 the ground floor of that because
55:18 you know Steve Jobs and Wozniak were on
55:21 the cover of you know Newsweek and Time
55:24 Magazine and Bill Gates and the team at
55:27 Microsoft was was you know doing their
55:30 thing and I was in seventh grade and I
55:32 was like oh man I just missed like I
55:34 could have I could have been somebody I
55:36 could have been a player
55:38 and and that it like it broke my heart
55:40 and then and then I didn't think I'd see
55:42 another one of those in my lifetime
55:44 because I knew that
55:46 that these things don't come along very
55:50 often right the printing press was
55:52 whatever it was 500 years before more
55:55 than that
55:57 um
55:59 and it made me really sad and then in
56:02 1994 I stumbled on this thing called the
56:04 world wide web and I published
56:06 an online magazine
56:09 in my apartment in Brooklyn
56:11 and three weeks later
56:14 there was a full page article written
56:16 about it in Paris in Liberation on the
56:19 Parisian News Daily
56:21 and
56:23 I had I had I just I had an epiphany of
56:26 holy [ __ ] the world just changed and
56:29 holy [ __ ] the World Wide Web is like
56:33 this like this PC moment
56:36 and so I went all in on the world wide
56:39 web stuff and I co-founded agency.com
56:41 and I it was a crazy crazy time and I
56:45 didn't think I'd see
56:47 it again in my lifetime and then I
56:49 played with chat GPT and I was like holy
56:51 [ __ ] here it is again
56:54 there's like three of these in my
56:55 lifetime like I I if if you if you are
56:59 not acutely aware how lucky you are to
57:02 be
57:05 able to play with this stuff in this
57:07 moment it's it's an amazingly rare thing
57:09 and this one in particular
57:12 this is going to make the invention of
57:14 the personal computer and the world wide
57:17 web and the iPhone all of them seem
57:19 quaint right because this is just it's
57:22 the way this stuff is using the computer
57:24 is just a fundamentally different thing
57:26 so it's crazy
57:28 so anyway listen listen it's just not
57:32 that many of us in here tonight don't
57:34 tell anyone I get this cuckoo with this
57:36 stuff
57:37 he seems very obsessed with it did you
57:39 notice that I think he's a little
57:41 touched do you think so too do you think
57:44 so I don't think it's healthy I don't
57:45 think it's healthy I think you think
57:47 this is religion do you think he thinks
57:49 it's God oh I don't know he might
57:52 thank you
57:55 I'm sharing some deep gems some deep
57:58 something
58:00 lucky discs I had a TRS-80 with cassette
58:03 oh wow yeah that that looks good you
58:05 remember these
58:07 side quest drives
58:09 huh
58:11 oh yeah Urban desires that was my online
58:14 magazine
58:15 I think this is a 40 megabyte
58:20 it's a classic
58:26 [Music]
58:29 ours were IBM 5150s well you know what's
58:32 funny Clint so I had TRS 80s in seventh
58:36 grade and then my buddy Scott buchart
58:39 his dad was in real estate so he had a
58:40 lot of money so he had a he had an apple
58:42 II and then he had a Lisa he bought his
58:46 dad a Lisa for the real estate business
58:48 it was a ten thousand dollar computer
58:50 that was like a really giant shitty
58:53 Macintosh
58:55 so he had a Lisa and then when the first
58:57 Mac came out you know he and I were
58:59 playing on the Mac and we had modems and
59:01 we were calling up you know
59:03 um
59:05 it was cool you could you could call up
59:07 computer systems that didn't have any
59:09 Security on them you could just download
59:10 lists of phone numbers so I remember my
59:13 my only actual hacking experience we got
59:16 one of those lists and and basically you
59:18 would you would get one of those lists
59:20 and then you would just have the
59:21 computer just randomly call phone
59:24 numbers until it hit a phone number
59:26 where it logged into a computer and so
59:29 we did that and we logged into the
59:31 control system of a mall in North
59:34 Carolina
59:37 and we you know dug through the menu
59:39 systems and we turned the heat up to 99
59:41 and we reverse the escalators we
59:44 reversed the direction of the escalators
59:46 so ah those were good times all right I
59:51 had chat wait I tell chat GPT to make my
59:54 email casual professional and I've been
59:57 100 satisfied with the outcome yeah it's
59:59 great at that stuff it's also good if
1:00:01 you haven't tried it silver fox
1:00:03 um if you've got an email that you've
1:00:06 written or anything that you've written
1:00:07 that you're really happy with you know
1:00:09 paste paste it in there as an example
1:00:10 and just say follow the tone and
1:00:12 structure of that other thing I wrote
1:00:14 it's really good at that as well we
1:00:17 still use Fortran 77 in the HPC world
1:00:19 yeah yeah yeah I know well and that's
1:00:22 another place where these where the the
1:00:24 large language models you know because
1:00:26 you've got all these computer languages
1:00:27 that are that are fading where you where
1:00:29 you have you don't have expertise for
1:00:31 people that can do Fortran and and
1:00:34 Cobalt and things like that in these old
1:00:36 Mainframe systems that are still still
1:00:38 out there
1:00:39 um you know I think the the the ability
1:00:42 to
1:00:44 um refactor code or just to even
1:00:46 understand and document code
1:00:49 um that may be of a previous era could
1:00:52 be really really powerful
1:00:55 I hope my persistence comes off as
1:00:57 nothing short of professional absolutely
1:01:01 schedule a call yeah drop me a line
1:01:03 happy to do it happy to chat
1:01:05 um compact portable the size of a sewing
1:01:07 machine I don't think I owned
1:01:11 did I own the the Mac
1:01:14 they called it the luggable
1:01:16 I don't think I owned one but I think
1:01:18 some place I worked had one so I carried
1:01:20 one around a couple of times those those
1:01:22 [ __ ] were heavy
1:01:23 they were really heavy and the screens
1:01:26 were really dim they weren't back
1:01:27 backlit I think they were if they were
1:01:30 backlit it was like with a with like a
1:01:32 Bic lighter this is pretty bad
1:01:37 um we had apples in fifth grade very
1:01:39 cool yeah that I mean the Apple II was
1:01:41 was they did really good stuff in
1:01:43 education I guess Apple's still doing
1:01:44 good stuff in education but they kind of
1:01:47 owned that market for a good while
1:01:51 um Lan parties oh yeah
1:01:54 all right that's what I that's what I do
1:01:56 I'm the email Queen oh that's great
1:01:57 that's awesome toe dance where can I
1:01:59 find better prompts to get my
1:02:01 mother-in-law to act more like a human
1:02:05 actually you know what you can probably
1:02:07 do is is you could say here's the issues
1:02:09 I'm having with my mother-in-law give me
1:02:11 give me some strategies to uh to uh to
1:02:15 win her over
1:02:17 or be able to tolerate her that's really
1:02:20 funny uh
1:02:25 um
1:02:26 Dr J it passed the Kyle test and he's a
1:02:28 cgo so that that's a that's a funny
1:02:31 thing so
1:02:33 one of my titles right now is I'm a
1:02:35 chief generative officer which sounds
1:02:37 very [ __ ] impressive doesn't it
1:02:39 um I like it it's a it's a title that
1:02:41 makes me happy it's for a uh
1:02:44 an organization called content Evolution
1:02:46 which is a sort of a loose Federation of
1:02:48 marketing companies that are just kind
1:02:50 of there to co-market with one another
1:02:52 but I built I built something for
1:02:54 Content Evolution if you go to
1:02:56 contentevolution.net on the home page of
1:02:59 contentevolution.net is is this thing
1:03:01 called the uh challenge engine so you
1:03:04 give it a business Challenge and then
1:03:05 it'll generate a series of strategic
1:03:08 questions that you should be asking
1:03:10 yourself to solve that problem
1:03:12 and so along with some other folks in
1:03:15 content Evolution we built that tool and
1:03:17 so when we delivered that tool the guy
1:03:20 that runs content Evolution goes I'm
1:03:22 going to promote you to Chief generative
1:03:23 officer I'm like I'm in so
1:03:27 so I think I'm the first Chief
1:03:28 generative officer on the planet
1:03:32 you didn't think I had qualifications
1:03:34 cgo baby
1:03:38 amateurs amateurs you think I'm just an
1:03:41 ex-actor
1:03:42 it's I am
1:03:44 [Laughter]
1:03:49 cheers
1:03:53 all right let's see let's say say let's
1:03:57 get some more questions going here
1:03:58 tandy1000 HX love it the Osborne one I
1:04:01 remember that thing
1:04:03 swear it was a sewing machine case it
1:04:05 probably was you know what my my my lust
1:04:08 machine
1:04:10 when I was in seventh or eighth grade I
1:04:12 wanted the Timex Sinclair I think it was
1:04:15 a thousand CX it was a computer that was
1:04:18 about this big and it had a membrane
1:04:20 keyboard on it
1:04:21 it was here I can probably go find one
1:04:23 we have the internet
1:04:26 time x
1:04:28 Sinclair 1000 yeah man
1:04:32 and it was like it was like 129 dollars
1:04:35 and it was like that was way out of my
1:04:37 [ __ ] price range
1:04:40 [Music]
1:04:42 look at that bad boy look at how cool
1:04:44 that thing was
1:04:47 wait
1:04:50 see it had it it had all these shapes on
1:04:53 the key so you had the letters but you
1:04:54 had all these shapes that you could do
1:04:56 ASCII art with and then it had all this
1:04:58 other [ __ ] like all this programming
1:05:00 [ __ ]
1:05:01 and it was all just in this tiny little
1:05:03 box come on
1:05:07 that was a [ __ ] future man
1:05:10 never got one I should buy one now
1:05:12 except with my 80d I'll probably spend
1:05:15 like three months like just hyper
1:05:17 focusing on it and
1:05:19 just waste my life away so it's good I
1:05:22 don't have one
1:05:24 Timex Sinclair from the drugstores 4K
1:05:27 extra external RAM module exactly
1:05:30 jockster this is the link you're looking
1:05:33 for what is it
1:05:36 oh yeah
1:05:42 when you're ready to travel Macintosh
1:05:45 can easily go along
1:05:46 the durable carrying case Has Fallen
1:05:50 your Macintosh keyboard mouse manuals
1:05:53 and so on
1:05:57 even fully loaded the carrying case is
1:06:01 light enough to go anywhere you go hey
1:06:03 dang it
1:06:05 holes
1:06:08 um
1:06:13 come on
1:06:20 oh come on
1:06:22 it ain't working now
1:06:25 is it
1:06:27 and when you're ready to travel
1:06:29 Macintosh can easily go along the
1:06:32 durable carrying case is strong and
1:06:34 waterproof
1:06:35 your Macintosh keyboard mouse manuals
1:06:38 and software all fit neatly inside it's
1:06:41 like a cooler
1:06:46 [Laughter]
1:06:49 the carrying case is light enough to go
1:06:51 anywhere
1:06:52 [Laughter]
1:06:57 oh man
1:06:59 that's awesome
1:07:03 uh
1:07:05 you had Clint had the Timex Sinclair
1:07:07 okay I hate you Clint I'm jealous of you
1:07:10 in retrospect
1:07:12 did you ever see the Microsoft Excel
1:07:14 elevator commercial now I didn't
1:07:17 um optional audio cassette interface oh
1:07:19 man you were you were you were [ __ ]
1:07:21 loaded man you had all the toys
1:07:24 could fit that on a plane with you for
1:07:28 AI assisted encoding like copilot and
1:07:30 others how well do they protect company
1:07:32 code and IP ah so joaquim I think it's
1:07:35 Joachim or Joachim Joachim or Joachim
1:07:40 um
1:07:46 offend your audience in one easy step
1:07:48 with Kyle Shannon
1:07:50 um so listen Joachim
1:07:52 um
1:07:55 with these tools right now unless they
1:07:59 explicitly say it in writing like a
1:08:02 legal document
1:08:05 assume that all of these things have no
1:08:08 privacy and security
1:08:10 if you've got to send your data to Bing
1:08:13 or to open AI or to
1:08:16 Google bard or wherever just assume that
1:08:19 it's not secure
1:08:21 um
1:08:23 chat EPT has a new thing called chat GPT
1:08:25 Enterprise where they're starting with
1:08:27 people that can spend 10 or 15 grand a
1:08:29 month and then it'll come down to to us
1:08:31 plebes at some point
1:08:34 um
1:08:35 or if you do a standalone instance on
1:08:37 Microsoft Azure or something on AWS
1:08:41 where you know you've got a hermetically
1:08:43 sealed environment where you're you're
1:08:45 running these large language models you
1:08:47 know in some sort of thing
1:08:48 assume that assume that the sort of
1:08:52 consumer versions of these things are
1:08:54 not secure and so does it mean you can't
1:08:56 use them no it doesn't but but what it
1:08:58 might mean is you go through and
1:09:01 de-personalize a document so maybe
1:09:03 you've got a legal document and instead
1:09:05 of the person's name you put in Mickey
1:09:07 Mouse right and you know you you take
1:09:10 out real addresses and then you go
1:09:12 process the document like that so so
1:09:15 that's anything that I'm doing that
1:09:16 involves client data I'm depersonalizing
1:09:19 it if I'm dealing with anything that is
1:09:21 not in a standalone hermetically sealed
1:09:23 thing so I would I would just assume
1:09:27 um
1:09:28 just assume it's not safe assume it's
1:09:31 not secure because otherwise you'll end
1:09:33 up like that group out of Japan and
1:09:35 Samsung where they they put a bunch of
1:09:37 stuff up on chat CPT and it got it got
1:09:41 snacked up by the community who
1:09:44 hackers gonna hack
1:09:47 and so yeah
1:09:48 so
1:09:52 [Music]
1:09:55 I am the oldest before color TV there
1:09:58 was a show to put plastic over the
1:10:01 screen and color over black and white
1:10:03 yeah I remember that it was a Magnavox I
1:10:05 had
1:10:06 my stepdad got that system the Magnavox
1:10:10 Odyssey
1:10:11 and we had like a 27 inch like one of
1:10:14 those big console TVs it was like a 27
1:10:17 inch TV which was Giant at the time
1:10:19 because it was a tube
1:10:21 right and it had all the the election
1:10:23 like it would it would literally shock
1:10:25 you if you walked up to it because it
1:10:27 was just a giant like Tesla coil just
1:10:29 basically ready to electrocute you at
1:10:32 any moment and then yeah the the
1:10:34 Magnavox
1:10:35 Odyssey video game for like the duck
1:10:38 shooting game
1:10:39 you'd put the big piece of plastic it
1:10:42 would static electricity to this Tesla
1:10:44 coil TV and then the sky would be blue
1:10:48 and the water would be you know the the
1:10:50 grass would be green on the bottom it's
1:10:52 [ __ ] awful
1:10:56 and like the controllers would be like
1:10:57 clack clack clack
1:11:03 oh my God
1:11:05 remember so all there's there's enough
1:11:07 gen xers in here one of my one of my
1:11:10 great
1:11:11 um
1:11:12 one of my Great disillusionment Moments
1:11:15 you know you there's those moments where
1:11:17 you grow up right so so this was in the
1:11:20 kind of late 70s early 80s you know you
1:11:23 had arcades you know like physical
1:11:26 arcades where you'd go to a building
1:11:27 with machines in it and you put quarters
1:11:29 in it and you play video games
1:11:31 and then the Atari 2600 came out
1:11:35 and they're like oh it's so exciting and
1:11:37 you can play video games at home and
1:11:38 it's like the arcade experience at home
1:11:40 and then they made the boxes
1:11:43 the artwork on the boxes looked like the
1:11:46 [ __ ] arcade games and then you'd get
1:11:48 the game home and it was like six blocks
1:11:50 bouncing around scream and you're like
1:11:53 this isn't this isn't an arcade game and
1:11:57 it was just like I kept I kept getting
1:11:59 suckered into buying
1:12:02 Atari 2600 games because someone would
1:12:05 come out with clever box art and I'd go
1:12:07 maybe this one's different and I look at
1:12:09 the back and I'm like yeah this one's
1:12:11 gonna be better when I go play it no
1:12:13 it's still just shitty arcade games
1:12:19 oh man
1:12:21 my first Mac came with one megabyte of
1:12:24 ram I uploaded upgraded to two megabytes
1:12:26 for five grand so my first Mac it was a
1:12:30 512 ke
1:12:32 and I think it was my buddy Scott
1:12:33 buchart the guy that that
1:12:35 um you know he and I did computer stuff
1:12:37 as a kid
1:12:39 um
1:12:40 he had a five megabyte hard drive and it
1:12:44 was actually it's funny I've got a box
1:12:45 right here that my lights on it was a
1:12:48 five megabyte hard drive this was about
1:12:50 the size of it and it was this steel
1:12:52 enclosure right it was a multi-planner
1:12:55 thing it's a five megabyte hard drive I
1:12:58 think he sold it to me for 200 bucks I
1:13:01 think he paid like 1500 for it and I
1:13:04 think he upgraded to like a 50 megabyte
1:13:06 hard drive and so I had I had a Mac 512
1:13:10 ke with an external hard drive I was
1:13:12 like baller man like yeah I got the
1:13:15 system
1:13:17 then I upgraded to an se30 with the
1:13:19 color monitor I don't [ __ ] around
1:13:25 oh man it's crazy and I like for AI
1:13:27 assistant coding how well do they
1:13:29 protect yep we talked about that
1:13:32 Microsoft can close your account and
1:13:35 your documents are lost
1:13:38 wait what
1:13:40 what is that in reference to
1:13:44 oh oh if they close your GitHub if
1:13:46 you're talking about GitHub co-pilot
1:13:47 yeah I assume so if if they should if
1:13:50 they if you do something that violates
1:13:52 their terms of service and they shut it
1:13:54 down yeah
1:13:55 so all these CL all these cloud services
1:13:58 are like that right if they if they go
1:14:00 down like when what was it the the flick
1:14:04 flicker was it flicker the the photo one
1:14:06 that went out of business and everyone's
1:14:09 [ __ ] photo libraries were all just
1:14:11 [ __ ] to bed you could easily get into
1:14:14 trouble with your company if you upload
1:14:15 any code yeah exactly yeah just with all
1:14:19 this stuff assume it's assume it's
1:14:20 dangerous until it's not
1:14:22 um
1:14:23 especially if you work for a big company
1:14:26 um you know wait for your it Department
1:14:28 to have to either create a Sandbox for
1:14:30 you
1:14:31 or do
1:14:33 work
1:14:35 tangential to what you do officially on
1:14:38 a computer that's not a work computer
1:14:40 just so you can learn this [ __ ] if you
1:14:42 don't have you know official places to
1:14:44 play I did a workshop for a big
1:14:47 um uh Energy company not an energy
1:14:50 company battery company
1:14:53 um
1:14:55 a couple of months ago and it was for
1:14:58 their Marketing Group and the IT the IT
1:15:00 department basically installed you know
1:15:02 a special secure version of chat GPT and
1:15:07 Bing and like all the like the Microsoft
1:15:10 version of chat GPT
1:15:12 um just for the marketing part
1:15:14 department to do this Workshop but they
1:15:16 had access to it they you know it was
1:15:18 blessed by it and things like that so if
1:15:20 you've got that cool but just assume
1:15:22 it's a mess
1:15:23 let's see that's interesting I asked
1:15:25 about cleaning up my CRM a few nights
1:15:27 back using GPT oh yeah oh yeah Paulie z
1:15:32 um
1:15:32 hang on
1:15:33 to organize my CSV file so
1:15:37 come on
1:15:38 oh wait someone could someone re-pin
1:15:40 that because I I couldn't read the
1:15:42 second half of the thing because of tick
1:15:44 tock's wonderful interface they've
1:15:46 they've got icons that are literally
1:15:48 like three pixels wide and like you have
1:15:51 to wait there it is organize my CS5 so I
1:15:54 probably got
1:15:56 probably shouldn't do this a
1:16:00 um oh
1:16:10 I don't know enough about how
1:16:13 um code interpreter works
1:16:17 um
1:16:18 it's now called Advanced data analytics
1:16:20 but I'm pretty sure
1:16:22 that
1:16:26 when you fire up code interpreter in
1:16:29 chatpt it's it's it's gen it's uh it's
1:16:33 creating a container
1:16:34 so it's basically creating a little
1:16:37 hermetically sealed
1:16:39 um operating environment where it's
1:16:42 running all that python code so I don't
1:16:44 know that any of that's getting sent
1:16:46 back out but I don't know pay Pate might
1:16:48 know that more than I do
1:16:51 um
1:16:55 yeah I don't know I don't know if
1:16:59 if it's CRM data
1:17:05 I don't know I don't know that that's
1:17:07 that's a
1:17:12 you know
1:17:13 here's the deal policy I would go to how
1:17:17 big is your company what's your
1:17:18 tolerance for risk what's their
1:17:20 tolerance for risk if it's just if it's
1:17:22 a small organization and it's and it's
1:17:24 your company and you're like well if you
1:17:27 know someone gets this information like
1:17:29 is that gonna be
1:17:31 catastrophic or is it going to be like
1:17:33 well it would suck but it's actually
1:17:34 kind of fine then like it's a call you
1:17:37 got to make
1:17:38 um
1:17:39 but I would I would I would
1:17:42 research how how code interpreter
1:17:46 actually works because my understanding
1:17:48 of it is it's running inside a container
1:17:51 in in sort of a like a temporary little
1:17:53 Run State
1:17:55 um that's doing all of that processing
1:17:57 so I don't think it's sending a bunch of
1:17:59 stuff out but I could be very wrong so I
1:18:01 I don't don't listen to me on that do
1:18:04 some research on that and then you need
1:18:06 to figure out where your risk tolerance
1:18:07 is so
1:18:09 yeah yeah
1:18:10 all right all right all right all right
1:18:14 all right
1:18:15 20 megabyte hard drive four megabyte Ram
1:18:18 no modem yeah
1:18:22 they have to wait they have new terms of
1:18:24 service valid from November who do open
1:18:27 AI does mantred
1:18:31 um vintage Visionary good I love that
1:18:34 name it's 10 out of 10 name
1:18:36 I bought an early 512 added a monster
1:18:38 Mac conversion yep nice that's solid
1:18:44 um
1:18:47 [Music]
1:18:55 bite magazine just for the free game
1:18:57 code each month yep I remember that
1:19:03 um
1:19:05 [Music]
1:19:05 um
1:19:13 oh it's Joe
1:19:15 Joe Kim ah okay cool but I'm not
1:19:18 offended I'm the same age as you gen Z
1:19:21 cool
1:19:22 um Joachim cool
1:19:25 um oh it is so so I said Joe a Chim it's
1:19:27 go
1:19:28 Joe a Kim cool that's a cool name
1:19:33 um
1:19:33 but yeah depending on where you're from
1:19:35 could easily be Joaquin but Joe Kim
1:19:37 that's cool Microsoft can punish you for
1:19:39 the content of your documents oh that's
1:19:41 interesting
1:19:43 I suppose I suppose anyone can right I
1:19:46 mean Tick Tock does they boot me off
1:19:47 this thing I've been booted off this
1:19:49 thing three times
1:19:50 because I because I said some code word
1:19:52 if there's certain code words where
1:19:54 you're just like I'm talking merrily
1:19:56 along and it's like zap you're gone for
1:19:59 a week
1:20:06 oh Gen X I mean yeah I figured I figured
1:20:10 that all right let's see let's see if
1:20:13 you wrap something they do not like grow
1:20:15 up when exactly Joker My Pal owns a
1:20:19 ginormous arcade with all the old games
1:20:21 it's so rad oh that's so cool Bruno yeah
1:20:23 it's those old arcade games are just the
1:20:26 best I mean they they just had such good
1:20:28 playability and
1:20:30 like like as much as I respect the new
1:20:34 you know 3D environments and all that
1:20:36 exciting stuff there's something about
1:20:37 just
1:20:39 like the speed and quality of like
1:20:41 centipede
1:20:42 and then millipede and
1:20:45 you know missile defense and asteroids
1:20:48 like asteroids the gameplay of asteroids
1:20:51 was so pure and it was like you just
1:20:53 became one with that machine
1:20:55 those were those were cool days
1:20:58 and it was like and it was it you know
1:21:00 that's it it's funny why arcades died is
1:21:04 because the home consoles got as good as
1:21:06 them right you didn't need in like in my
1:21:09 day in my day you had to go to the
1:21:12 arcade to have a good video game
1:21:14 experience you know the one at home was
1:21:16 like this sad depressing Wonka
1:21:19 bad thing and then you go to the arcade
1:21:22 and it's like
1:21:24 amazing
1:21:27 I remember typing in games and basic
1:21:29 from magazines into my Atari 400 that's
1:21:31 awesome
1:21:33 hahaha
1:21:36 um
1:21:42 [Music]
1:21:44 that's interesting I asked about oh yeah
1:21:46 that's right okay
1:21:50 um
1:21:52 [Music]
1:21:55 Missile Command and Dragon's Lair
1:21:57 Dragon's Lair Dragon's Lair was one of
1:21:59 the most frustrating games in the
1:22:00 history of video gaming
1:22:03 because all the other video games had
1:22:06 you know zero latency or like very
1:22:09 little latency and Dragon's Lair
1:22:12 you you had to hit the moves right but
1:22:15 there was like that half second delay so
1:22:17 you'd sort of like go up up left right
1:22:20 up and then and then it would go
1:22:23 and then and then it would play whatever
1:22:26 part of the laser disc it played
1:22:28 I mean it was really cool to look at but
1:22:30 the gameplay on it was so [ __ ]
1:22:32 frustrating because of that delay well
1:22:34 it's you know what's funny the um
1:22:37 all of the talking chat Bots right now
1:22:40 the the ones that are you know like like
1:22:42 pie and and whatever the chat CPT One's
1:22:45 Gonna Be that half second delay in them
1:22:47 is is is almost that identical weird
1:22:50 delay that Dragon's Lair had
1:22:53 and like that'll go away like that that
1:22:54 latency is going to go away probably
1:22:56 pretty quick but
1:22:59 but it's it's weird right now
1:23:02 you know what's funny I'll tell you what
1:23:04 here's where we are it's funny we're
1:23:06 talking about all this video game [ __ ]
1:23:09 we are in
1:23:12 let's see not that
1:23:19 this is kind of the the Apple II you
1:23:23 know PC Junior
1:23:26 kind of you know State like we're we're
1:23:29 at such an early stage of this like this
1:23:32 isn't even the Macintosh hit like this
1:23:34 is like the Apple II and maybe the the
1:23:37 multimodal version that can see and
1:23:39 generate images with Dolly three is
1:23:41 gonna be like the Macintosh right but
1:23:44 maybe not like maybe it's like it goes
1:23:47 from like the Apple II to to I don't
1:23:49 know
1:23:50 it's it's still kind of command lining
1:23:52 and weird right now
1:23:54 and that's that's the stage we're at
1:23:56 with this stuff so if we you know you
1:23:58 think back on how far computers have
1:23:59 come
1:24:01 since those really nostalgic early days
1:24:04 of you know your computer had to call
1:24:06 another computer I remember when when my
1:24:09 buddy Scott had a 300 baud modem you
1:24:11 could actually you know sort of watch it
1:24:13 you know type [ __ ] across the screen and
1:24:15 then we got a 1200 baud modem and it was
1:24:18 like you couldn't keep up with it and
1:24:19 then when you got you know 56k it was
1:24:22 just like
1:24:24 and it's like that's kind of the stage
1:24:25 we are with these things right now
1:24:27 they're kind of like 300 baud modem text
1:24:29 interfaces
1:24:32 and like think about you know a PS5
1:24:34 today versus that [ __ ] well what's going
1:24:38 to be the PS5 version of that
1:24:42 [ __ ]
1:24:46 I mean the PS5 version of that is going
1:24:49 to be make me a movie that's exactly
1:24:52 what I want it to be make me a video
1:24:54 game make me an immersive
1:24:57 anti-anxiety environment that I can
1:24:59 enter right now
1:25:01 I've got 12 minutes to to get my
1:25:04 amygdala unhijacked go
1:25:11 it's like being in the Dos days of AI it
1:25:13 is it's this is yeah we're in that we're
1:25:17 in Das
1:25:19 it's like what so look it's a experience
1:25:22 but but let's let's go look at something
1:25:26 um the best image generation tool right
1:25:30 now is mid-journey you have to you have
1:25:33 to make images in this thing called
1:25:35 Discord which has got like all these
1:25:37 like server these are like bulletin
1:25:39 board systems and then within each of
1:25:41 your little bulletin board systems you
1:25:43 have your stupid little text channels
1:25:45 and all these little text channels have
1:25:47 their little talky talk and people talk
1:25:49 about their crap
1:25:50 and then in here you have a mid-journey
1:25:53 channel
1:25:54 and and what do you do to make an image
1:25:56 slash imagine right slash your magic so
1:26:00 you have to know the
1:26:03 command line to make an image and then
1:26:05 prompt what do you say here I don't know
1:26:07 I'm gonna say uh uh let's see uh a
1:26:13 photo
1:26:14 of
1:26:16 let's see a
1:26:19 um prehistoric
1:26:22 Hedgehog
1:26:25 on a plateau
1:26:31 um
1:26:32 Ansel atoms
1:26:35 and then I get I'm going to do dash dash
1:26:38 AR
1:26:40 check this out dash dash
1:26:43 ar16 colon 9.
1:26:48 what's that stand for
1:26:50 aspect ratio 16 9 what's that that's the
1:26:54 size of a of a QuickTime movie how do I
1:26:57 know that because I'm a geek that like
1:27:00 the fact that we're having to make
1:27:01 [ __ ] images with command line
1:27:03 interfaces we are absolutely in in the
1:27:06 Dos era of AI right now this is just
1:27:09 [ __ ] stupid
1:27:11 laughs
1:27:13 what's what's the uh what's Ye Old AI
1:27:17 learning lab uh um term janky pieces of
1:27:23 [ __ ]
1:27:23 now we're gonna don't get me wrong
1:27:26 they're still remarkable we're gonna
1:27:27 look back fondly on these days and like
1:27:29 remember when you had to type in command
1:27:30 lines to make a picture
1:27:32 but there you go
1:27:35 it did it and they're fun they're good
1:27:38 look at that one I like that one let's
1:27:40 do the let's do the one in the little
1:27:42 frame
1:27:44 we'll upscale him
1:27:48 I won't bow
1:27:51 look at that
1:27:54 boom with a little command line we made
1:27:56 magic this is like the Commodore 64
1:27:59 being able to do video
1:28:02 was it the Commodore 64 yeah
1:28:06 wait what was it the Amiga what was the
1:28:09 big video machine that was the video
1:28:11 machine forever anyway
1:28:14 yeah this is how early we are this is
1:28:17 how early we are
1:28:18 someone's coming in here though we're so
1:28:20 early that it hedgehogs Ruled the Earth
1:28:22 no
1:28:24 [Laughter]
1:28:29 edlin prompts exactly
1:28:32 oh man
1:28:35 crazy that's a good one
1:28:39 they are learning lab
1:28:42 we're learning tonight actually we're
1:28:44 just kind of reminiscing tonight I like
1:28:45 it
1:28:48 um
1:28:51 it started talking nonsense about the
1:28:54 multiplicative identity property oh
1:28:58 well just copy a greater than b oh God
1:29:03 I asked that what the heck it was
1:29:05 thinking about and it started
1:29:07 apologizing or talking about Holodeck
1:29:10 anyone I got one in my garage five years
1:29:13 from now yeah
1:29:15 that's what's coming
1:29:18 have you seen I mean I've showed this on
1:29:20 the channel before but have you seen
1:29:22 um oh what the [ __ ] is it called
1:29:25 blockade labs
1:29:28 this is stupid and and this is the the
1:29:31 the actual technology here is relatively
1:29:34 simple but what it's doing is super cool
1:29:38 so if you go to what is it
1:29:42 something.lockadelabs.com
1:29:45 um Skybox Skybox
1:29:49 .blockidelabs.com so if you go to
1:29:50 skybox.blockaidlabs.com
1:29:55 beta072 this time we're introducing more
1:29:58 control
1:30:00 so we got an API
1:30:05 all right whatever
1:30:07 so
1:30:08 so this is a cool 3D World right neat
1:30:12 you can look up in the sky you look down
1:30:14 in the valley swell but I can also
1:30:18 it says dream up your world so I can go
1:30:29 space station deep in the cosmos
1:30:34 with an exploding planet in the distance
1:30:38 and Fighters flying through the skies
1:30:43 shooting at one another
1:30:47 and then let's see what style we'll go
1:30:55 [Music]
1:31:00 I guess we'll go
1:31:02 techno Noir cyberpunk
1:31:05 some of the better models
1:31:08 oh I've run out of generations oh this
1:31:11 used to be free
1:31:13 wait let me log in maybe
1:31:17 I get some credits if I log in
1:31:20 mm-hmm
1:31:22 come on
1:31:23 come on
1:31:28 I am so done with
1:31:33 17 Factor Authentication
1:31:40 uh
1:31:54 [Music]
1:31:59 why does he sing like that I don't know
1:32:02 Martha I'm pretty sure he's been
1:32:03 drinking it looks like coffee oh that's
1:32:05 what he says it is I'm pretty sure
1:32:07 that's not coffee boom boom confirm
1:32:17 do I have any available
1:32:19 um let's see what did I say
1:32:24 space station deep in the cosmos
1:32:27 exploding nebula in the distance
1:32:33 is it going
1:32:35 I think it's going yay
1:32:49 so there's their little default world
1:32:53 but then
1:32:56 boom
1:32:58 there's a little space world
1:33:00 that we just invented and it's sort of
1:33:03 3D this is actually not 3D this is just
1:33:05 a flat image that they're generating in
1:33:08 a way that it can be warped onto a
1:33:11 sphere
1:33:12 but there are people now that are taking
1:33:15 these 3DS or these you know mapped
1:33:19 spheres into Unreal Engine 5 and they're
1:33:23 adding objects into the thing and making
1:33:26 them making them so you can interact
1:33:27 with them
1:33:28 so
1:33:30 so right now these are kind of still
1:33:32 janky pieces of [ __ ] where it's this
1:33:34 isn't a real 3D world but we are within
1:33:38 spitting distance of being able to
1:33:41 describe a 3D World it'll generate it
1:33:43 describe the kind of gameplay that you
1:33:46 want it'll generate that describe the
1:33:48 kind of objects the kind of weapons the
1:33:50 kind of vehicles the kind of players the
1:33:52 kind of
1:33:53 um Network ability is it just your
1:33:55 friends is it strangers the kind of
1:33:58 scoring system you just describe it and
1:34:01 you'll be playing this hyper
1:34:04 personalized game that you want to play
1:34:06 and you can do that Solo or you can do
1:34:08 that with your friends right and so
1:34:12 and this is going to be everything this
1:34:14 is going to be movies there's going to
1:34:15 be music Imagine a Spotify that instead
1:34:19 of just being a playlist of songs that
1:34:22 you like that other people wrote It's a
1:34:25 playlist of those songs mixed with
1:34:28 original songs written for you based on
1:34:32 your emotion in the moment
1:34:36 okay
1:34:38 three years from now
1:34:40 that's gonna be Spotify or whatever you
1:34:43 know whatever is the new Spotify right
1:34:44 because Spotify will be like it's all
1:34:46 about real music and real musicians and
1:34:48 then some punks will come up with one
1:34:50 where it's like hey how about if you had
1:34:52 something that just composed music for
1:34:53 you on the fly in real time based on the
1:34:55 emotional
1:34:57 you know senses that we get from your
1:34:59 iris from your smart glasses
1:35:05 and then it's just you know every day is
1:35:08 just an endorphin injection we're all
1:35:10 [ __ ] you know hooked up so ready
1:35:13 player one we should all what we should
1:35:15 do here one night since we're on here
1:35:17 two and a half hours anyway we should
1:35:19 just start watching you know
1:35:21 Ready Player one and her start watching
1:35:25 movies together see if we can get the
1:35:27 copyright police to hunt us down
1:35:30 laughs
1:35:32 janky piece of [ __ ] oh yeah
1:35:37 oh man
1:35:39 very funny
1:35:43 I might upgrade to chat gpd4 actually
1:35:47 pay for it
1:35:48 I need to step up my game
1:35:50 listen it's I think it's probably worth
1:35:54 it Becky just because like if you want
1:35:56 to start playing with this stuff the
1:35:57 fact that it's now multimodal the fact
1:35:59 that you could just show it you know
1:36:01 take a picture of
1:36:03 some location somewhere or take a
1:36:05 picture of like it's I I just have no
1:36:10 idea how we're going to use it I mean I
1:36:11 I think a lot of what this channel is
1:36:13 going to be in the next month or so is
1:36:16 just kind of discovering in real time
1:36:17 together like what is this stuff how do
1:36:20 we play with it like where's the value
1:36:21 here
1:36:23 because I don't know
1:36:26 our grandkids will laugh oh oh yes
1:36:30 so cool
1:36:33 who what I don't I didn't see who sent
1:36:35 that I got I got uh
1:36:38 mesmerized by the blue whale jumping
1:36:40 through the screen that was very cool
1:36:42 thank you whoever that was that was
1:36:44 really awesome I appreciate that wow we
1:36:48 had sound effects and everything it
1:36:49 totally caught me off guard it was like
1:36:51 the other night if you weren't in here
1:36:53 like a week ago
1:36:55 um one of the one of the people who's a
1:36:58 regular in here
1:36:59 um decided to do some
1:37:02 um some Tick-Tock view purchasing on on
1:37:06 our behalf so we're like cruising along
1:37:08 like tonight we were like at 50 people
1:37:09 for like half an hour and then all of a
1:37:12 sudden I look up and we're like four
1:37:13 thousand I was like wait what and then
1:37:17 it went it went all the way up the
1:37:18 highest we hit was like 17 700 and it
1:37:22 was just a bunch of people coming in
1:37:24 that with you know I think it was just
1:37:25 an engagement farm so the the engagement
1:37:27 was really low but there was like you
1:37:30 know
1:37:30 ten thousand plus people in here for
1:37:32 like an hour and a half totally freaked
1:37:34 me out
1:37:35 so the whale didn't freak me out that
1:37:37 much but it was pretty cool all right
1:37:39 awesome
1:37:42 met Gates and Allen at a Sting concert
1:37:44 in the early 80s My Heroes at the time
1:37:46 yeah I I met um I met guy Kawasaki
1:37:50 fairly
1:37:52 fairly early in apples
1:37:55 in apples in in his tenure at Apple as
1:37:57 the as the lead evangelist for Apple guy
1:38:01 Kawasaki was a hero of mine Steve's jobs
1:38:03 was a hero of mine
1:38:05 um
1:38:06 yeah
1:38:07 yeah amazing amazing I mean just
1:38:11 like the those those those early days of
1:38:14 of all that stuff was just
1:38:18 you know you you listen to the was it
1:38:21 Noah Bushnell who started Atari and you
1:38:24 know you listened to Wozniak and you
1:38:26 listen to let's just all those early
1:38:28 guys what it was like it was it's a very
1:38:31 small
1:38:32 community and it you know when we were
1:38:34 doing the the web stuff in New York City
1:38:36 in the mid 90s it was it was a
1:38:38 relatively small community right it was
1:38:40 a community of I don't know
1:38:43 300 to 500 people that really had their
1:38:47 fingers on the pulse of what was going
1:38:49 on
1:38:50 and you know it quickly grew but it was
1:38:54 it was it was a really amazing time
1:38:56 because nobody knew this [ __ ] was coming
1:38:58 and we were all like holy [ __ ] if people
1:39:02 knew what was coming
1:39:05 they'd be acting different
1:39:08 it's just like what we're doing here
1:39:11 if people only knew pay attention people
1:39:14 pay attention
1:39:17 reported today for bullying an AI video
1:39:20 post not the poster
1:39:22 the bot the post was about
1:39:26 reported today for bullying an AI video
1:39:29 post that's really funny quite sure the
1:39:33 bot isn't gonna come alive and go read
1:39:35 comments oh man
1:39:39 um how did you learn mid Journey so you
1:39:41 have to find it inside Discord yeah so
1:39:44 listen they call me tater tot listen
1:39:47 tater tot here's the deal tater tot okay
1:39:50 for one thing can we talk about Tater
1:39:52 tot's name they call me tater tot
1:39:56 she uses camel case so you can read the
1:39:58 words she separates them with the period
1:40:00 and her name is they call me tater tot
1:40:03 it's a 10.5 out of 10. it's my first
1:40:06 north of 10 rating on a name it's the
1:40:09 best name in the history of names in
1:40:11 this channel I love it
1:40:13 I'll never forget it they call me tater
1:40:15 tot
1:40:17 um here's the deal
1:40:21 you don't have to learn mid-journey
1:40:24 because Dolly three's coming out and I
1:40:27 think Dolly three is a mid-journey
1:40:29 killer and it's gonna live inside chat
1:40:32 gpt4 and it's going to be included in
1:40:34 your 20 bucks I think I assume
1:40:37 um
1:40:39 and it's probably going to be out in the
1:40:40 next two weeks so yes you could go learn
1:40:43 mid journey and listen quite frankly
1:40:45 mid-journey is probably still going to
1:40:48 be a significant player for some amount
1:40:50 of time but
1:40:51 Dolly three can do text Dolly 3 can do
1:40:55 incredibly coherent prompt to image uh
1:41:01 matching so so like if you put a bunch
1:41:03 of details in your prompt they actually
1:41:05 all show up in the image that's one of
1:41:07 the things that mid Journey struggles
1:41:09 with like if you put in
1:41:11 um a bunny and a turtle in a in a pond
1:41:16 setting with a beaver what you end up
1:41:19 with very often is like a bunny Turtle
1:41:22 where they've melded into the same kind
1:41:24 of animal and there's like a giant
1:41:26 beaver like smacking him with his tail
1:41:28 like the the sort of predictability of
1:41:31 mid-journey is challenging at best but
1:41:34 the quality is really good
1:41:36 but I would say just wait for two weeks
1:41:39 for Dolly three and start playing with
1:41:41 it because I think it's gonna be better
1:41:43 so
1:41:45 um I the the other thing about mid
1:41:47 Journey there's a couple of things about
1:41:48 it the CEO is a bit of a like an nft bro
1:41:51 he's a bit of a bit of a douche any and
1:41:54 mid-journey is very much about his whims
1:41:57 from what I can gather like the cus you
1:41:59 know the the customer base wants these
1:42:01 things he's like I don't like those
1:42:03 things and he's so he's just like he's
1:42:05 just like a flipping you know sort of
1:42:07 douchey little CEO
1:42:09 um and I don't think he's taking what
1:42:11 he's got on his hands all that seriously
1:42:12 that said they've got like 200 million
1:42:15 dollars in Revenue so so he's doing
1:42:18 something right like you know I don't
1:42:19 fault the guy he's got the the best tool
1:42:22 out there right now but I think just
1:42:24 wait for Dolly three and it's gonna be a
1:42:26 much more professional tight
1:42:29 um tool and and
1:42:32 the way they've coded it chat gpt4 will
1:42:36 write the prompts for you so you can
1:42:38 just say to chatgpt4 help me write a
1:42:41 prompt to make this kind of image really
1:42:43 good it will write its own prompt and
1:42:45 then generate the image so I think it's
1:42:47 going to be here
1:42:50 so but if you want to learn mid-journey
1:42:52 um I'm happy to do a little walk through
1:42:54 about how you get there it's it's a pain
1:42:56 in the ass but it's it's fine
1:42:59 it's the only reason I know how to use
1:43:01 Discord is I did like a year and a half
1:43:03 sort of deep diving into blockchain and
1:43:05 nft land with all the crypto Bros
1:43:08 um so I got I got decent at Discord then
1:43:12 so anyway
1:43:14 all right how to keep from breaking AI
1:43:17 from breaking into everything social
1:43:18 media bank accounts power grids
1:43:21 um
1:43:24 generic
1:43:26 um
1:43:27 I don't know
1:43:29 I don't know I mean this is this is one
1:43:31 of the risks right so if you wanna if if
1:43:34 you want trouble sleeping tonight go
1:43:36 look at a site called worm GPT
1:43:40 it is a it's based I I assume it's based
1:43:44 on one of the Llama models from meta is
1:43:47 my guess but it could be something else
1:43:48 but it's an open source it's based on
1:43:51 open source large language models it is
1:43:54 designed for hackers for a hundred bucks
1:43:56 a month to be an autonomous agent that
1:43:59 just goes and does evil [ __ ]
1:44:01 foreign
1:44:02 that's out there
1:44:06 um why am I laughing I don't know
1:44:07 because I'm nervous
1:44:10 um
1:44:12 they're going to be lots of tools like
1:44:14 that there's going to be lots of Bad
1:44:15 actors the good news is
1:44:17 the white hat hackers the the good guys
1:44:20 also have access to these tools so if
1:44:23 someone does something pretty egregious
1:44:25 you know the good guys are going to have
1:44:27 access to tools that can either stop it
1:44:29 prevent it fix it or go find the bad
1:44:32 guys and
1:44:33 do evil [ __ ] to them too so I don't know
1:44:36 um
1:44:39 you know I I think this is one of the
1:44:41 reasons it seems to me that that the the
1:44:44 Primitive nature you know we're talking
1:44:47 about these tools being in in DOS mode
1:44:49 right they're kind of in this weird
1:44:51 primitive state
1:44:53 and as powerful as chat gpt4 is
1:44:57 it's not AGI it's not doing reasoning
1:45:00 it's not it's not doing autonomous
1:45:03 actions right it's it's not you know
1:45:05 performing things on our behalf there
1:45:07 there are things
1:45:08 like
1:45:09 um you know Lang chain and baby AGI and
1:45:12 auto GPT that are autonomous agents but
1:45:16 they're also janky and [ __ ] up they
1:45:17 just don't work most of the time
1:45:20 it's the next round of these things it's
1:45:24 it's the GPT fives and and you know if
1:45:27 Gemini isn't so if let's say GPT three
1:45:31 three and three point five are down here
1:45:32 four is here
1:45:34 Gemini this new Google thing is either
1:45:36 going to be you know at gpt4 maybe it's
1:45:39 going to be up here
1:45:41 when when we get to kind of gpt5 when we
1:45:44 get to this level this this sort of next
1:45:46 round or gpt6
1:45:48 that's when these tools start getting
1:45:50 really really powerful and what what the
1:45:54 if if you want to feel a little bit
1:45:57 better
1:45:58 um a group of the big companies that
1:46:01 that have have access to all these GPT
1:46:03 used to do what What's called the
1:46:05 frontier models they put together this
1:46:07 Consortium called the Frontier Model I
1:46:10 forget what they're called it's not the
1:46:11 Consortium what is it
1:46:14 um AI Frontier Point
1:46:18 um
1:46:23 forum
1:46:24 the Frontier Model forum
1:46:27 so you can go read on open ai's blog
1:46:30 about the Frontier Model Forum so a
1:46:32 bunch of the big companies basically got
1:46:34 together and said when we start getting
1:46:36 to the next generation of these things
1:46:39 we need to coordinate and figure out
1:46:41 what if that needs to be actually not
1:46:44 just regulated by government but but
1:46:46 licensed
1:46:47 by government
1:46:49 similar to how you like you give a
1:46:51 license for someone to operate a nuclear
1:46:53 plant or you give someone a license to
1:46:55 operate you know a power plant
1:46:58 some of these models are going to be
1:47:00 powerful enough that the companies
1:47:03 making them are going to the government
1:47:05 to say you should license these things
1:47:07 now there's a cynical side of me that
1:47:10 says
1:47:11 you know if you're early enough you get
1:47:13 the government to you know regulate
1:47:16 things in your direction right so so
1:47:19 they might be doing that but
1:47:21 um they're they're at least talking
1:47:22 about it they're at least saying when
1:47:24 these things get more powerful the
1:47:25 danger is very real and they should be
1:47:27 treated like that just like we treat you
1:47:30 know licensing pilots and airplanes and
1:47:33 airplane manufacturers and all that sort
1:47:35 of stuff when when a lot of lives are at
1:47:38 risk so
1:47:39 I think the current tools are primitive
1:47:42 enough that maybe they're not you know
1:47:44 super a super threat but you know
1:47:48 a bad actor with not much knowledge
1:47:50 could probably do some damage so
1:47:53 sleep well sleep tight
1:48:00 give that garbage which garbage The
1:48:03 Prompt that I gave to make it give that
1:48:05 garbage I don't know what garbage you're
1:48:06 talking about
1:48:15 Becky Roo okay you've tucked me into it
1:48:16 I'm upgrading Bang
1:48:19 another satisfied customer
1:48:22 go to Chachi PT right now sign up at
1:48:25 1995 YouTube can have 1995
1:48:29 1995. yours only buy one get one free
1:48:36 I don't make money from that by the way
1:48:41 oh
1:48:43 but that's cool
1:48:45 okay uh let's see not C I meant C it
1:48:50 keeps popping C for x no it was a step
1:48:53 of an explanation what you you all are
1:48:55 you all are doing wait are you all
1:48:58 helping each other with math equations
1:48:59 in in the comments here
1:49:02 that seems anathema to someone who can't
1:49:05 do math
1:49:07 feels like you're going behind my back
1:49:09 here and solving actual math problems
1:49:11 I mean we got paid in here paint can do
1:49:14 actual math problems so
1:49:17 um I just don't understand how they are
1:49:19 so afraid of these things
1:49:21 and they fail to regulate guns well
1:49:24 listen I
1:49:27 have you watched any of the 48 PM shut
1:49:30 up
1:49:32 have you watched any of the the
1:49:34 Congressional hearings they don't know
1:49:36 what [ __ ] Wi-Fi is
1:49:38 I mean they at least know what a gun is
1:49:40 but they don't know what Wi-Fi is how
1:49:42 are they gonna how are they gonna
1:49:43 regulate something they don't have any
1:49:47 concept they don't understand how social
1:49:48 media works
1:49:50 much less the nuances of a large
1:49:52 language model
1:49:54 and how
1:49:56 how it's generating content and not
1:49:59 copying and pasting it like I don't know
1:50:02 I don't know I mean what I'm hoping what
1:50:04 I'm hoping they do is that out of the
1:50:06 out of the Chuck Schumer meeting you
1:50:08 know where they all met I you know I'm
1:50:09 hoping that they create the AI
1:50:11 equivalent of like the FTC or the FAA
1:50:15 where they put someone like Jeffrey
1:50:17 Hinton in charge of it that actually
1:50:19 knows what the [ __ ] he's doing
1:50:20 understands what the risks are
1:50:23 and and they have an organization that
1:50:25 they can that the Congress can you know
1:50:28 look to and say provide us guidance
1:50:31 based on reality not you know politics
1:50:36 so
1:50:38 I don't know I don't have I don't I I
1:50:41 have I am in a in it
1:50:44 I am in a dark and cynical place about
1:50:46 our state of politics over the past
1:50:48 decade so
1:50:50 I don't have a lot of faith in them and
1:50:52 at the same time
1:50:54 um this shit's really powerful like this
1:50:56 [ __ ] is not a it's not going away it's
1:50:58 not getting uninvented
1:51:00 and
1:51:01 um it needs to be dealt with it needs to
1:51:03 be dealt with at a governmental level
1:51:05 and it quite frankly needs to be dealt
1:51:07 with at a global level right this this
1:51:09 isn't even country by country at this
1:51:11 point
1:51:12 training AI to discern between
1:51:14 fraudulent data and factual data is the
1:51:16 challenge now yeah I think that's right
1:51:19 and I think that um I I think AI will
1:51:23 likely drive us toward back toward you
1:51:26 know tokenization blockchain technology
1:51:28 maybe nft technology maybe some other
1:51:30 flavor of that
1:51:33 but you know can you verify that that
1:51:37 reporter wrote that article and that
1:51:39 that article hasn't been [ __ ] with
1:51:42 how do you track all that well Large
1:51:44 Marge Marge you got to see this picture
1:51:47 you got to see this picture
1:51:49 they caught Biden French kissing a
1:51:51 gorilla at the Cleveland Zoo you know he
1:51:53 was there giving that speech in
1:51:54 Cleveland well apparently he's got a
1:51:56 thing for gorillas he went down to the
1:51:58 zoo and they got a picture of him French
1:51:59 kissing Gabriela can you believe that
1:52:06 what are we gonna do with that
1:52:09 are you using a mobile phone or a laptop
1:52:11 camera for this live curious since frame
1:52:15 size is good
1:52:17 um
1:52:19 phone but it's an iPhone 14 pro
1:52:23 so the back camera is a 45 megapixel
1:52:27 camera if it's using the the 1X camera
1:52:31 and then I think it's a decent
1:52:32 front-facing camera
1:52:34 the it's better my my previous phone I
1:52:37 think I had an 11 Pro and the focus this
1:52:40 [ __ ] was really bad with the 11. this
1:52:43 thing if I have my hand in the thing the
1:52:45 focus is bad but if it's just on its own
1:52:47 it's actually really good
1:52:48 so yeah yeah yeah
1:52:52 and another thing yeah
1:52:55 hey Peter yeah we're gonna need you to
1:52:58 go on ahead and coming in on Saturday
1:53:01 yeah oh and another thing Peter yeah
1:53:06 um we're gonna need you to go on ahead
1:53:08 and come on in on Sunday too yeah
1:53:13 yeah okay
1:53:15 I just got an update did you guys
1:53:18 Sherry Banks if I just got an update
1:53:21 I'll
1:53:22 jump through the screen and give you a
1:53:24 smooch on the forehead come on chat be
1:53:27 there baby
1:53:31 get started let's get this party started
1:53:35 get this party started let's get this
1:53:38 bodies started
1:53:40 I like turtles
1:53:44 welcome to chat adg
1:53:46 [Laughter]
1:53:49 anything new no no see I should have a
1:53:53 little picture I should have a little
1:53:55 camera icon in my in my thing let me go
1:53:58 to hang on
1:53:59 I don't think I have it yet I got
1:54:02 nothing get no see them
1:54:07 all right Sherry they call me tater tot
1:54:11 I'll wait until chat gbt has it thanks
1:54:14 they call me tater tot as a Ron White
1:54:16 reference c c yeah exactly I know that
1:54:19 that Ron White reference that's really
1:54:21 good the commentator that's great they
1:54:24 call me Tater that's awesome
1:54:27 um I just don't understand how they're
1:54:29 so afraid of these things oh yeah that
1:54:31 okay uh planes gas plants gas station
1:54:34 sushi in large quantities everything but
1:54:38 guns huh well listen
1:54:41 the
1:54:42 citizens united
1:54:45 there's your answer right like
1:54:47 undue Citizens United and maybe things
1:54:49 will get better everything's bought and
1:54:51 paid for right now so it's none of this
1:54:54 none of this is about the actual
1:54:56 politics this is all about who's bought
1:54:58 and paid for right so that's where we
1:55:01 are right now so it you know that's why
1:55:04 I'm so cynical this is you can this is a
1:55:07 the great mistake of the of the the
1:55:11 non-conservative side of this argument
1:55:14 is that they keep making the mistake
1:55:18 life's tough stuff tougher when you're
1:55:19 stupid
1:55:20 they keep making the mistake of thinking
1:55:22 that logic
1:55:24 will make a difference
1:55:26 it isn't about logic
1:55:30 it's a game it's a game button paid for
1:55:34 independent of good logic and good
1:55:37 intention
1:55:39 that's why I'm so cynical and bitter
1:55:41 bitter you betcha
1:55:47 um training AI to discernment yep we
1:55:50 talked about that don't trust AI in math
1:55:52 although
1:55:54 um code interpreters not bad because
1:55:56 it's writing and executing python code
1:55:58 and and it's better it's still not great
1:56:01 it's still not great
1:56:04 like I'm I've got a
1:56:06 I've got a report that I run for some
1:56:09 client stuff
1:56:11 oh my God it's like
1:56:14 I can get it
1:56:16 to get the numbers right after about
1:56:20 somewhere between 10 and 20 iterations
1:56:24 it's just it's just bad right now
1:56:27 well so so actually you know Mantra you
1:56:31 know your Point's a good one so so if
1:56:32 especially if you're new to this stuff
1:56:35 an important thing to to
1:56:38 understand is use these tools enough so
1:56:42 that you understand what they're good at
1:56:44 and what they're bad at
1:56:45 and where they're bad
1:56:48 use your [ __ ] brain use your critical
1:56:51 thinking
1:56:53 right if you know that it might not be
1:56:55 good at math if you know it hallucinates
1:56:57 if it spits out a bunch of citations for
1:57:00 the article it just wrote for you where
1:57:03 you're like hey this article is good I
1:57:04 wonder you know could you point me to
1:57:07 some some magazine articles that you
1:57:09 wrote that from it will give you the
1:57:11 magazine articles and most of them
1:57:13 probably won't exist
1:57:16 and unless you play with this stuff you
1:57:19 know you run the very real risk of
1:57:21 embarrassing yourself or Worse right
1:57:23 there was a lawyer that wrote a legal
1:57:26 brief handed it to a [ __ ] judge
1:57:30 and the judge says none of this case law
1:57:32 exists what are you doing you can't make
1:57:35 this [ __ ] up
1:57:37 and the lawyer was like uh sir I use
1:57:41 chat jpt uh sorry about that oh yeah
1:57:44 I'll go back and proofread it next time
1:57:47 foreign
1:57:51 Ty that's on shitty user Behavior
1:57:54 understand your tools these are just
1:57:57 tools
1:57:58 uh diag
1:58:01 o at goatori diagulatory diagulatory
1:58:05 diagulatory diagote I couldn't see the
1:58:09 rest of your name so I don't know what
1:58:10 it says but it looked like a cool name I
1:58:12 think this is one I couldn't pronounce
1:58:16 Congressman said can my wife get on my
1:58:19 Wi-Fi exactly exactly
1:58:24 these guys are gonna regulate our AI oh
1:58:28 my God was he a senator it doesn't
1:58:30 matter it's exactly Silver Fox same
1:58:34 exactly
1:58:36 oh they just bought and paid for shills
1:58:38 ugh it's so gross it's so gross you know
1:58:41 what I mean it's so gross
1:58:44 um are you using a mobile phone we did
1:58:46 that one
1:58:47 and some of those hearings they were
1:58:49 saying to regulate the deployment which
1:58:51 I was thinking
1:58:53 well yeah they could regulate here's the
1:58:55 problem so wait oh Diego Torre attorneys
1:59:01 um
1:59:01 so here's the here's the problem
1:59:06 it's already rolled out
1:59:08 [Laughter]
1:59:11 the the
1:59:13 what's Sam
1:59:15 the reason Sam Altman took open AI from
1:59:18 a non-frop profit to a for-profit was
1:59:21 first he realized he needed more money
1:59:23 than he could raise in a non-profit to
1:59:25 train these things
1:59:27 and then once they trained them he was
1:59:29 like oh [ __ ] we can't just let this out
1:59:31 in the world like was our intent right
1:59:33 so his idea was to slow roll the
1:59:36 deployment
1:59:37 of the base models
1:59:39 and then Chachi PT did what it did
1:59:42 and Google got all excited and they
1:59:44 started doing their thing but they're
1:59:45 all doing it within these closed you
1:59:48 know environments and then meta is like
1:59:50 Hey we're irrelevant over here we've
1:59:53 been talking about the metaverse for
1:59:54 three years no one seems to give a [ __ ]
1:59:56 they're like hey look over here we've
1:59:58 got AI too and they released it
2:00:02 they put it out in the world
2:00:04 so
2:00:06 so it's out there so like that ship has
2:00:09 already sailed now the next more
2:00:13 powerful versions of these maybe there's
2:00:16 some sort of government regulation that
2:00:18 says meta can't do that anymore but now
2:00:22 that the stuff's out there
2:00:24 I'm sure the developer Community is
2:00:26 trying to figure out how they can you
2:00:28 know do virtual GPU server Farms to
2:00:32 you know do their version of gpt5 so I
2:00:35 don't know we'll see
2:00:37 we'll see but this stuff's moving way
2:00:38 too fast and I I think the uh
2:00:41 I think the deployment ship has has done
2:00:45 deployed
2:00:47 government government missed that one
2:00:50 and they're gonna you know they're gonna
2:00:51 try their damnedest to put it back in
2:00:53 the box but they're not going to be able
2:00:54 to
2:00:56 go to chat GPT now please I did and it
2:01:00 didn't like me let me go try to reload
2:01:02 oh no I logged in from scratch it makes
2:01:05 me sad but what did I do Sam Altman
2:01:10 ham
2:01:11 Sam give me my toys I want my chat gbt
2:01:16 to be able to see
2:01:24 it doesn't work
2:01:26 I got nothing I got nothing nothing I
2:01:30 got nothing honey nothing honey
2:01:33 will require us to have some
2:01:35 permit to buy gpus they might I mean
2:01:38 above a certain level I mean if you buy
2:01:41 200 gpus I don't think they give a [ __ ]
2:01:44 if you buy 10 000 yeah
2:01:47 I mean inflection
2:01:49 the ones that do PI AI they just raise
2:01:51 1.3 billion dollars I think 950 million
2:01:54 of that is earmarked for 22 000 servers
2:01:57 or 22 000 gpus
2:02:00 so
2:02:02 that might be the kind of thing that a
2:02:04 regulatory body might say okay if you're
2:02:06 going to buy more than x number of GPU
2:02:08 or X number of compute you know X number
2:02:10 of cycles of compute then you have to be
2:02:14 regulated and if you're going to buy you
2:02:16 know 10x that then you have to be
2:02:17 licensed I mean I I don't know like I
2:02:20 don't know enough about that world at
2:02:21 all
2:02:22 it's the wild west and the laws playing
2:02:24 catch up it's totally that
2:02:27 um
2:02:28 I the the thing that's the thing that's
2:02:31 a little concerning though is I think
2:02:33 that like Corporate America
2:02:36 government America thinks they have more
2:02:39 time than they have I think that they
2:02:41 think they have well in three to five
2:02:43 years they like like a similar sort of
2:02:46 ramp up of the World Wide Web right the
2:02:48 world wide web from from when it was
2:02:50 kicked off to when it hit 100 million
2:02:52 users was six years so that ramp up was
2:02:55 six years chat GPT went from zero to 100
2:02:59 million users in six weeks
2:03:02 six weeks and this the the technology
2:03:06 here is not just the World Wide Web like
2:03:09 this simple point-and-click interface on
2:03:11 the internet no no the output here is it
2:03:14 writes code it writes words it makes
2:03:16 pictures it makes music
2:03:19 and knowledge workers are
2:03:22 about to be
2:03:25 shaken up
2:03:28 hard
2:03:29 and not like three years from now like
2:03:32 2024 is going to be insane
2:03:36 and so I think any company right now and
2:03:40 any government entity that thinks that
2:03:42 they have three years to prepare for
2:03:45 thinking about when to start
2:03:48 regulation is going to be smacked upside
2:03:53 the head
2:03:54 look at my hair
2:03:57 that's what the Senators and congressmen
2:03:59 are going to look like a year from now
2:04:01 when they realize uh we [ __ ] up what's
2:04:05 up there's that one Tick Tock sound and
2:04:07 that's what he knew he [ __ ] up
2:04:10 that's gonna be us
2:04:12 when is it going to be September
2:04:15 except this time next year
2:04:19 this time next year I think we're going
2:04:21 to realize
2:04:23 we need to get some sort of tokenization
2:04:25 and
2:04:27 um media authentication in place
2:04:31 personal verification and identity in
2:04:33 place
2:04:34 and we got to start getting our [ __ ]
2:04:37 together because
2:04:39 I think the 2024 election is going to be
2:04:42 is going to be
2:04:44 a special mess
2:04:46 so we'll see maybe not I don't know
2:04:49 how cautious wait oh sorry what was that
2:04:51 whoever pinned that could you pin it
2:04:52 again
2:04:56 my hair is gone it's gone all sorts of
2:04:59 [ __ ] wacky hasn't it
2:05:03 this is the best toupee I've had
2:05:07 it's actually three topaz but uh wait
2:05:09 how cautious about this information
2:05:11 being
2:05:12 farmed and analyzed in China are you I
2:05:15 don't really for me personally I don't
2:05:17 give a [ __ ]
2:05:20 um
2:05:22 I don't think China's our Nemesis I mean
2:05:25 Google and Facebook are
2:05:29 that we don't need it
2:05:32 okay so China's gonna Farm it all right
2:05:36 it's been it's been being farmed here
2:05:39 voluntarily on our parts for 20 years
2:05:41 now it's the ship has sailed our day the
2:05:45 date of privacy thing isn't done like
2:05:48 people talk about this AI [ __ ] like oh
2:05:50 my God the Privacy privacy is going to
2:05:52 be a real situation what do we do
2:05:54 what do we do
2:05:56 how long have you had a Facebook account
2:05:58 oh for 20 years I put everything on
2:06:00 there really
2:06:01 you concerned about AI
2:06:06 but Mark Zuckerberg he seems harmless
2:06:08 enough
2:06:10 Google their original saying was first
2:06:13 do no evil I'm pretty sure they haven't
2:06:14 done evil I'm pretty sure they haven't
2:06:16 I'm pretty sure they have it because
2:06:17 they said it
2:06:18 they said it I saw it somewhere it's not
2:06:21 on their website anymore but I remember
2:06:22 hearing that from someone first do no
2:06:24 evil so they're not evil
2:06:27 so yeah is it a risk sure is it a risk
2:06:30 from Russia sure
2:06:32 the thing that scares me about the AI
2:06:34 stuff is not so much
2:06:36 China's gonna do this Russia is going to
2:06:38 do this whoever's going to do this it's
2:06:40 that
2:06:42 I think we
2:06:44 mostly rightly
2:06:48 assumed that
2:06:51 if someone was really really resourceful
2:06:54 and had a lot of resources
2:06:57 and really wanted to get to our data
2:06:59 they could get to it but for the most
2:07:01 part our data was safe
2:07:03 and the problem with AI is is that it's
2:07:07 democratizing sophisticated
2:07:10 programming
2:07:13 to non-programmers
2:07:16 so the implication of that is Hackers
2:07:19 going to hack but now you've got
2:07:21 clueless hackers are going to start
2:07:23 hacking well
2:07:25 and that's that's where it gets a little
2:07:27 scary because it because a minor player
2:07:30 could do some major damage they can't
2:07:31 even pass a simple budget extension yeah
2:07:34 I just I I'm I'm just done the whole
2:07:37 it's it's it is comically tragic it is
2:07:41 our government right now is
2:07:43 Shakespearean and it's it is idiocy it
2:07:46 is it is
2:07:49 it is
2:07:51 tragic comedy
2:07:54 it would be [ __ ] hilarious if it
2:07:56 wasn't so [ __ ] destructive I made a
2:07:58 pobot that threatened to delete it if it
2:08:01 gives me false information that's the
2:08:04 Dan that's the Dan model Mantra is a
2:08:07 hacker from way back I can tell
2:08:09 Manchester is [ __ ] with PO
2:08:13 is it working is it giving you answers
2:08:15 that you want because have you gotten
2:08:17 around the safety guard rails
2:08:21 I like that uh we had script kitties for
2:08:24 eons
2:08:26 his videos are already being used
2:08:28 without his consent who's that me
2:08:31 the bot was scared to death so it did
2:08:33 not return any information at all
2:08:36 that's [ __ ] crazy
2:08:39 um
2:08:41 I mean these videos right wait any
2:08:44 information you share here can be used
2:08:47 without your consent oh do I care about
2:08:49 that no I've been listening
2:08:53 I've been I've been doxxed
2:08:56 not not fully docs I have been I've been
2:09:00 just kind of openly on the internet for
2:09:03 you know
2:09:04 many many decades
2:09:07 so I don't I don't really have anything
2:09:09 to hide I don't I don't there's there's
2:09:11 not really much
2:09:13 at risk
2:09:15 is it possible that someone takes these
2:09:17 videos and synthesizes me well yeah they
2:09:20 could do that but they only need like
2:09:22 three seconds of my voice and probably
2:09:25 10 seconds of video
2:09:28 and maybe if they wanted to do a
2:09:29 sophisticated version of this they could
2:09:31 take three of my lives I mean these are
2:09:33 two and a half or three hour sessions
2:09:35 I'm putting on YouTube
2:09:37 um
2:09:42 I mean
2:09:46 you know Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson
2:09:48 have more to worry about than I do right
2:09:50 like those guys are being spoofed a lot
2:09:53 already right but they've got millions
2:09:55 of followers I mean I just have a
2:09:58 relatively small following I mean
2:10:00 there's I like I don't there's no real
2:10:02 risk right
2:10:05 is it possible that someone goes oh
2:10:09 Kyle looks just like a cross between Tom
2:10:12 Arnold and Rosie O'Donnell and he's just
2:10:14 what we're looking for in a movie but we
2:10:16 don't actually want to deal with the
2:10:17 human being so we're just going to
2:10:18 synthesize him and make him start in
2:10:20 this movie is that a possibility I
2:10:23 suppose so but I think the risk is
2:10:25 really really really really really
2:10:26 really low
2:10:28 so so if someone wants to put me in a
2:10:31 movie because I have special attributes
2:10:33 they can just [ __ ] call me or they
2:10:36 can steal it and then you know I don't
2:10:39 know I'll call up my sag buddies and go
2:10:41 hey what do I do here they'll be like
2:10:43 pay your dudes [ __ ]
2:10:46 emotional based hackers
2:10:49 yeah there's gonna be all sorts of crazy
2:10:51 weird you know what's going to get weird
2:10:53 is the social engineering stuff have you
2:10:55 heard some of the some of the
2:10:56 conversations with these sales Bots this
2:10:59 shit's trippy go to
2:11:01 um if you want to see some weird stuff
2:11:03 again these right now are kind of like
2:11:05 the Dos version of these right so these
2:11:07 are the shitty versions of these go to
2:11:09 air.ai
2:11:11 and just listen to the the initial
2:11:14 um there's like an example
2:11:17 demo
2:11:19 hey James
2:11:23 yeah no worries I hate calls out of the
2:11:25 blue too but I'm actually from Apple and
2:11:28 I saw you were checking out Vision Pro
2:11:29 and we're about to pre-order but left
2:11:31 the page I was curious what had you
2:11:33 looking into potential okay I can
2:11:35 respect that can I just ask one question
2:11:37 before you go
2:11:39 uh fine shoot what's up
2:11:43 why did you well why did you decide not
2:11:46 to pre-order The Vision Pro so so those
2:11:49 kind of conversations like like I
2:11:52 when when
2:11:54 the ability to have a synthesized bot
2:11:57 call up and have a natural conversation
2:11:58 when that when that latency goes away
2:12:00 and the robotic nature of that goes away
2:12:02 which again
2:12:04 maybe a year
2:12:06 those Bots are going to be real time
2:12:08 with zero latency and they're going to
2:12:10 sound human and they can just dial the
2:12:12 phone 24 7 to all phone numbers
2:12:17 so the amount of social engineering that
2:12:20 can happen so that the hacking isn't
2:12:22 even necessarily going to happen at the
2:12:25 um computer like breaking into computer
2:12:27 systems and still stealing [ __ ] that's
2:12:29 one risk but security firms are getting
2:12:32 better and better at that the weak Link
2:12:34 in all of this is us it's always been us
2:12:38 it'll always be us
2:12:40 and so you're already hearing stories of
2:12:43 you know the daughter calls the mother
2:12:45 and says Mom I'm in trouble you got to
2:12:47 send me two thousand dollars right now
2:12:48 and it wasn't the daughter
2:12:52 question from Beach Palm do you put all
2:12:54 the live streams on YouTube all of them
2:12:56 question mark yeah I'm I'm up to
2:12:59 September 15th I think right now
2:13:02 so I'll I'll probably get completely
2:13:05 caught up
2:13:06 um Saturday is my hope
2:13:10 so I started doing these live streams
2:13:13 April
2:13:15 so there's May June July August half of
2:13:20 September
2:13:22 and you'll notice if you go to the
2:13:24 YouTube channel so the um
2:13:29 hang on I'll show you the address in a
2:13:31 second here I gotta sign in and then
2:13:34 switch accounts and then you need any
2:13:39 by the way if you want to feel stupid
2:13:44 um and really learn a lot about where
2:13:46 this shit's headed go watch a YouTuber
2:13:49 named David Shapiro
2:13:52 um he's a brilliant dude so let's see
2:13:54 videos so if you go to
2:13:59 um
2:14:04 uh AI learning lab Dash TT on YouTube
2:14:09 so AI learning lab was taken someone
2:14:11 else has that but AI learning lab Dash
2:14:13 TT for tick tock huh clever like a
2:14:16 [ __ ] steel trap hmm
2:14:19 go there you can see all the all the
2:14:22 back
2:14:23 um videos
2:14:24 but you'll notice the first seven seven
2:14:27 or so don't have descriptions but all
2:14:29 the descriptions
2:14:31 were written by Claude
2:14:34 so I took I took the two and a half or
2:14:36 three hour transcripts of each live
2:14:39 pasted it into Claude and I've got this
2:14:41 magical prompt I wrote like
2:14:44 I've probably put in I don't know a
2:14:47 week's worth of work getting this
2:14:48 [ __ ] prompt to work
2:14:50 and it works about 25 percent of the
2:14:52 time but all of the descriptions of the
2:14:55 videos and all of the chapterization is
2:14:58 all done with Claude it's pretty cool
2:15:01 so
2:15:02 yeah
2:15:04 so all of these are there I don't know
2:15:06 why anyone would want to watch them but
2:15:08 knock yourself out I don't even know why
2:15:11 I'm putting you know I'm putting them on
2:15:13 on YouTube because someone said oh could
2:15:15 could you put this [ __ ] on YouTube I was
2:15:17 like all right
2:15:18 I don't my plan for this Channel right
2:15:22 now is I don't have an end game
2:15:25 um I made a commitment to myself that
2:15:27 I'm going to do this so so just to give
2:15:29 you a sense of
2:15:30 when I decide to do [ __ ] like this I do
2:15:33 it like when I decide to start a company
2:15:34 I [ __ ] do it when I decide to
2:15:36 whatever I do it so when we went into
2:15:39 lockdown I've got my company storyline
2:15:42 we got a video storytelling platform
2:15:44 and
2:15:46 we went into lockdown and I'm like I'm
2:15:48 an extrovert I like I get my energy from
2:15:50 people this is going to be [ __ ]
2:15:52 torture so I decided to do a daily video
2:15:55 diary so if you go to YouTube uh for
2:15:59 storyvine you'll see there's a whole
2:16:01 video series there it's it's a video for
2:16:04 me every day for a year talking about
2:16:07 being an extrovert it's called an
2:16:09 extrovert's View From Within
2:16:12 and I did it for a year straight and got
2:16:15 like 65 followers so The Tick Tock
2:16:19 things has been very different like this
2:16:21 is actually interesting and engaging and
2:16:23 there's a really cool Community forming
2:16:25 here
2:16:26 um that didn't happen with with that
2:16:27 other project but but that's my
2:16:30 my intent right now is just to keep
2:16:33 doing these why I don't know
2:16:37 I think it's important I think it's
2:16:39 valuable it seems to be
2:16:41 helping some people
2:16:45 um
2:16:48 and I don't know I think it's I think
2:16:51 it's I think it's going to be something
2:16:52 of value I don't I don't know what I'm
2:16:55 doing with it though so do you have any
2:16:57 ideas let me know
2:16:59 uh you mean someone can download your
2:17:02 live as it's happening or showing I
2:17:04 don't oh they might be able to I don't
2:17:06 think so they can record you can record
2:17:08 your phone
2:17:10 actually I think I think some of the
2:17:12 Irregulars on here say that they that
2:17:14 they do that that they record these or
2:17:16 they record sections of them like when
2:17:17 I'm talking when I'm doing tutorials and
2:17:19 [ __ ]
2:17:21 um people people have done that
2:17:23 Jim Ross I've been playing with air.ai
2:17:25 to make sales calls for me the woman's
2:17:27 voice is much better oh that's cool so
2:17:29 Jim have they been have they been
2:17:30 working I mean like how does that work
2:17:33 do they get through like when Once when
2:17:35 when like one book's a meeting like do
2:17:38 you get to listen to the interaction do
2:17:39 they does it summarize it I've been
2:17:42 curious about that
2:17:45 that's really fascinating
2:17:48 it actually it might be cool to have you
2:17:51 like share that at a salon or something
2:17:53 like that Jim
2:17:55 Poe showed six criteria for trustworthy
2:17:57 news and said no news on the internet
2:18:00 matches all the criteria
2:18:02 that doesn't surprise me
2:18:04 I think I think it would be a fun thing
2:18:06 I think you could use AI to do I'm sure
2:18:08 someone's already done this
2:18:10 you could find the original the original
2:18:14 um event that happened and then you
2:18:17 could compare different news stories
2:18:19 coverage of it and see how far it
2:18:22 deviates from the facts of the event
2:18:25 oh
2:18:37 and offering boatloads of cash to
2:18:39 influencers for a tech that no one asked
2:18:42 for smells real fishy who's offering
2:18:45 boatloads of cash to influencers to me
2:18:47 wait
2:18:49 there's someone offering me buttloads of
2:18:51 cash I'll sell out I'll do it I'm in
2:18:56 I'm in send me the butt loads of cash
2:18:58 Kevin
2:19:01 what the [ __ ] are you talking about
2:19:03 all right
2:19:04 um
2:19:05 what would be a good model for creating
2:19:07 non-playable characters oh
2:19:10 uh Diego Torres Diego Torres you need to
2:19:14 see something listen
2:19:17 uh uh let's see what's it called
2:19:21 what the [ __ ] is it called hang on
2:19:26 um
2:19:27 oh I can't remember the name of the
2:19:29 paper
2:19:30 someone who's got to remember the name
2:19:32 of the paper
2:19:33 wait uh
2:19:36 let's see wait a i NPCs white paper
2:19:45 yeah I got it okay
2:19:53 so what's it called
2:19:59 this thing This Is Amazing by the way
2:20:02 so this white paper I gotta go find the
2:20:05 white paper hang on I'll do it
2:20:08 where's my mouse come on there we go
2:20:22 fantaverse this is it does it
2:20:34 no that's all right
2:21:04 I'm trying to get you the name of the
2:21:06 paper
2:21:21 so this was from back in April
2:21:24 so so basically what it is this paper
2:21:30 the paper oh generative agents that's
2:21:32 what it's called Interactive
2:21:35 simulacra of human behavior that's right
2:21:37 hang on
2:21:39 um
2:21:41 archive
2:21:45 um generative
2:21:48 agents
2:21:54 so if you go to Archive which is
2:21:56 oh wait that's archivevanity.com that's
2:21:59 not ah
2:22:01 [ __ ] Google and Bing the the search
2:22:04 engines are so [ __ ] useless
2:22:09 a r x i v
2:22:13 dot org
2:22:17 um
2:22:19 generative agents
2:22:25 [Music]
2:22:33 alternative agents Sim
2:22:37 you like
2:22:44 here we go
2:22:46 so go to Archive arxiv.org
2:22:51 and then find this paper
2:22:54 called generative agents Interactive
2:22:57 simulacra
2:22:58 of human behavior
2:23:01 and then what they did this is it's so
2:23:04 cool
2:23:05 um and I and I think there's like this
2:23:08 was the original paper I think there's a
2:23:10 there's a
2:23:11 um
2:23:12 a project on hugging face right now or
2:23:16 GitHub I forget which one where you can
2:23:18 actually go play with this thing now
2:23:22 let me load the white paper in here
2:23:30 Sherry Banks your lives keep me grounded
2:23:32 actually oh thank you for that I
2:23:34 appreciate that
2:23:36 I try to keep it real people I try to
2:23:39 keep it you know at least entertaining
2:23:41 semi semi-educational and then yes semi
2:23:45 like like what the [ __ ] are we all doing
2:23:47 here okay so the way this thing works is
2:23:51 there's 25 NPCs so NPCs are non-player
2:23:55 characters for those of you not in the
2:23:57 gaming world and they're those things
2:23:59 that like when you walk into the bar
2:24:00 he's like would you like a drink and
2:24:02 they have like their script of [ __ ] they
2:24:04 can say and they you know you ask them
2:24:06 things and if you try to have an
2:24:07 interaction with them you can't because
2:24:09 they've been just programmed it's kind
2:24:11 of like the voice trees when you call
2:24:14 the insurance company where they've only
2:24:16 been trained to say certain things
2:24:18 so what they did here was they made each
2:24:22 of the NPCs
2:24:24 have its own Persona and its own job and
2:24:27 then it's tied to chat GPT and the NPCs
2:24:31 can interact with each other so they
2:24:32 wake up in the morning like the artist
2:24:34 wakes up in the morning goes to the cafe
2:24:36 gets a coffee comes back to the studio
2:24:39 and starts painting the farmer makes
2:24:42 eggs with the wife and then goes out and
2:24:44 starts farming
2:24:46 um and then when these NPCs interact
2:24:48 with one another they have conversations
2:24:51 and they remember what they talked about
2:24:53 so one of the examples they give in this
2:24:56 paper is that is that um one of the NPCs
2:25:01 said to the other one it was his
2:25:03 birthday next week
2:25:04 and so the other one planned a party
2:25:08 with the other NPCs so he got together
2:25:11 they planned a party for this this other
2:25:14 one
2:25:15 um and it remembers it and and it's and
2:25:17 it's so so these things are like living
2:25:20 in this world
2:25:22 independent of of you or whatever other
2:25:25 players going through it and they're
2:25:27 developing memories and they're
2:25:29 developing you know personalities and
2:25:32 they're getting work done
2:25:35 what's fascinating about this to me is
2:25:37 that
2:25:39 the distance between this being a game
2:25:42 activity and being a personal agent for
2:25:46 for yourself is very small
2:25:49 so so imagine this rather than it being
2:25:51 a game like this imagine that you've got
2:25:54 25 agents that represent you
2:25:58 you've got a little entertainment agent
2:26:00 whose job it is to go out and find
2:26:01 interesting stuff for you to do and
2:26:03 you've got a work agent that's job is to
2:26:05 go out and research things for work so
2:26:08 that you you know rather than reading
2:26:09 the morning paper it knows what you like
2:26:11 and and you know on your way to work it
2:26:14 it calls you and you have a conversation
2:26:17 about the current events of the day and
2:26:19 then you have a vacation agent and then
2:26:21 you have an insurance agent you have all
2:26:23 these independent virtual agents
2:26:26 that are are out interacting with other
2:26:29 agents with other systems
2:26:31 and checking back in with you and
2:26:34 they're remembering all of the stuff
2:26:35 that they do so the vacation agents like
2:26:38 hey Kyle it's been it's been six months
2:26:40 since you you guys have had a vacation
2:26:42 you know are you thinking about doing
2:26:44 that anytime soon you're like oh that's
2:26:46 a good idea I forgot to do that you know
2:26:50 um
2:26:50 what do you what do you recommend and
2:26:52 then the agent might say well do you
2:26:54 want to you know do you want to do
2:26:56 something you've done before or do you
2:26:57 want to do something new oh I want to do
2:26:59 something completely new that I've never
2:27:01 thought of and it will know what you've
2:27:04 done right so this paper to me
2:27:07 I think from a gaming standpoint the
2:27:10 games are going to get really
2:27:11 interesting but then from a if you if
2:27:13 you just look at what's the ideas
2:27:15 sitting underneath this paper
2:27:18 holy [ __ ]
2:27:19 holy [ __ ] so anyway that was that was a
2:27:24 long answer to it to a question like
2:27:26 what about NPCs
2:27:28 there you go
2:27:31 yowza all right
2:27:33 archive is pronounced archive
2:27:36 it's the letter chai nice
2:27:40 cool didn't I call it archive
2:27:44 I think I did
2:27:47 looks like Legends of Zelda yeah again
2:27:49 don't mistake the artwork for how big
2:27:54 that idea is
2:27:56 on a Legend of Zelda game engine yeah
2:27:58 exactly exactly
2:28:01 that's where they'll test all this stuff
2:28:03 but I think I'm pretty sure that that
2:28:06 like like a month ago so that paper was
2:28:09 released in April and I think a month
2:28:12 ago the project came out where you can
2:28:14 actually log in and play with that thing
2:28:16 so go go Google the [ __ ] out of that
2:28:20 thing there's probably some fun stuff to
2:28:22 look at at this point
2:28:25 but now chat GPT wait now in chat EBT
2:28:29 have been playing so far useless oh
2:28:30 interesting
2:28:31 useless on the like the image reading
2:28:34 stuff yeah it's gonna be interesting to
2:28:36 see what's the thing I'm excited about
2:28:38 is the image Generation
2:28:41 Um but
2:28:42 we'll see I I think the the
2:28:46 ability for it to see is I I don't think
2:28:50 we really know what to do with that and
2:28:53 and quite frankly Bing's had that
2:28:55 capability for
2:28:58 four or five months now
2:29:00 it's just that it's in Chachi BT now it
2:29:02 seems like it's a big deal what was that
2:29:03 site again the site for the
2:29:06 um
2:29:07 for that paper is archive a r x i v
2:29:13 dot org and then search for generative
2:29:16 agents interactive
2:29:19 simulacra in fact I'll post this in the
2:29:24 um
2:29:25 I'll post this in the Discord
2:29:29 for
2:29:31 um
2:29:32 for the AI salon
2:29:34 in let's see
2:29:37 General discussion
2:29:40 um
2:29:41 this is a cool paper if you haven't
2:29:48 seen
2:29:50 it Bang
2:29:53 and if you're wondering well what's the
2:29:56 salon Discord if you go to if you're
2:29:59 interested in joining a community that
2:30:01 does cool [ __ ]
2:30:04 um the salon.ai is a group that I
2:30:08 started last December
2:30:11 um for people interested in playing
2:30:13 around with AI
2:30:14 and we have a Discord server and we have
2:30:17 bi-weekly meetups so there you go
2:30:22 um
2:30:25 girl wake up because you need to get
2:30:27 perplexity AI for this kind of stuff all
2:30:30 right you're helping one another that's
2:30:32 cool all right listen people
2:30:35 um let me see if there's any other
2:30:36 things here
2:30:38 dead out down what's the idea behind
2:30:41 this paper in your expert summary way
2:30:45 um the the idea is that the NPCs have
2:30:49 their own lives interact with one
2:30:51 another and have memory
2:30:54 and then if you if you attach that model
2:30:57 where you've got these agents that run
2:31:00 around in that case it's a game world
2:31:02 but you could see them sort of
2:31:04 navigating any world or Internet space
2:31:08 if you attach that behavior
2:31:13 if you attach that behavior to actions
2:31:17 so if you have a little agent that can
2:31:19 run around the world
2:31:21 and has access to your bank account and
2:31:23 your travel accounts and things like
2:31:24 that
2:31:25 and you've given it permission to do
2:31:27 that
2:31:28 it can just run around and do [ __ ]
2:31:30 and it can interact with another agent
2:31:32 so for example
2:31:34 in the game
2:31:36 the one dude said you know it's my
2:31:40 birthday and the other one planned a
2:31:41 party for it
2:31:43 in a real world use case you could say
2:31:45 hey you've got your travel agent is
2:31:48 going out and finding you cool vacation
2:31:50 stuff but the travel agent could
2:31:52 actually check in with the work agent
2:31:54 and say hey does Kyle have any important
2:31:57 meetings coming up that he can't miss
2:31:58 and the work agent would go oh yeah the
2:32:01 second week in October he's really busy
2:32:03 so the third week in October looks good
2:32:06 so book something then and then the
2:32:08 traveling so so the idea that these
2:32:13 these independent entities
2:32:16 can interact with one another
2:32:19 talk in natural language have their own
2:32:22 imperatives one's an artist one's a
2:32:24 farmer one's works at the store
2:32:28 and then have memories of what they
2:32:30 talked about from day to day is wholly
2:32:33 new because NPCs up to this point have
2:32:36 been hand written
2:32:38 logic like there's a writer that writes
2:32:42 the script of here's all the [ __ ] this
2:32:44 MPC can say when someone says this you
2:32:47 respond with this when someone says this
2:32:48 you respond with this and it's it's a
2:32:51 fixed set of instructions
2:32:54 and it can only move in certain places
2:32:56 it can't in operate independently on its
2:32:59 own
2:33:00 so
2:33:01 it's just it's just these things are
2:33:04 like
2:33:05 living organisms basically chat GPT on
2:33:08 iOS has voice conversations feature I
2:33:11 signed out and signed back in okay
2:33:13 and it worked okay
2:33:15 thanks retropunk that's awesome I'm
2:33:17 gonna go play with that
2:33:18 um listen it's 10 30. my voice is going
2:33:20 I'm sneezing whatever's happening shit's
2:33:24 going down oh wow that is beautiful
2:33:26 thank you Zippy Zimbo that was awesome
2:33:29 thank you very much
2:33:32 um
2:33:33 I'm out of here
2:33:34 thank you all you all are really cool so
2:33:37 let's see
2:33:38 um Jox has been in here tonight Sherry
2:33:41 Banks thank you for sharing what you're
2:33:42 doing paint similarly thanks for helping
2:33:45 out and sharing your wisdom that it
2:33:47 really does make a difference
2:33:48 uh let's see retropunk good to see you
2:33:51 uh who else we got in here
2:33:54 um beat from Firefly good night I saw
2:33:57 Silver Fox was in here for a while
2:33:59 cabruno thank you all thanks for all of
2:34:01 you who modded tonight I appreciate that
2:34:03 Clint good to see you how to partner how
2:34:06 you doing how you doing oh you're such a
2:34:09 little cutie
2:34:11 mods and Irregulars present Turtles
2:34:14 y'all are great thanks all for your time
2:34:16 I will see you tomorrow hey go play with
2:34:18 this stuff if you've got access to this
2:34:20 go start figuring it out get curious get
2:34:23 curious get curious
2:34:24 peace