aiLL November 18, 2023: Pt. 2 - ChatTMZ! OpenAI Meltdown: Sam Altman Ousted as CEO

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1. 0:19[Music] all right Ted can you hear me can you hear me now can you hear me can you hear me can you hear
2. 0:26me can anybody hear me yay is it better hello Captain hello Captain good day to you sir good day to you
3. 0:37sh forever hooked I am back Chelsea yes yeah yes better hear you yay audio is better yay llama M llamas is tasty do
4. 0:50you like llamas uh-oh lost my light you can make money all right how did that thing what is going on with my light
5. 1:01jeez oh gee good Lord that was bright all right no this is his clo hello I'm GPT 5 how can I help you today wow you sound more
6. 1:15confident I am more confident I'm chat bt5 be not afraid that's so sweet of you thank you wow you sound more
7. 1:24confident hi my name is Kyle I'm Chachi bt5 how can I help you today mid Journey Wanderer good day to you sir no d90s
8. 1:38hello music makes us smile doesn't it though I like music music is nice come on we know the robot overlords have
9. 1:46replaced you with a clone I do not know what you mean that's funny Elo Elo back to the Charter right okay
10. 2:02oh yeah cool glasses all right how many people we got in here we got 66 we got some people back all right welcome we
11. 2:08we'll let people stumble on in abduction oh we'll never know will we um well what what was I saying about uh
12. 2:18the technology before nonprofit roots in Tech govern governance Evolution tech tech for good future implications
13. 2:34let's ask chat GPT um is there a more detailed publicly accessible structure
14. 2:51of the open AI nonprofit and capped profit entity that you can analyze as well let's see if there's anything out there on
15. 3:04internets someone told me they can make a profit as a nonprofit I forget what it's called well they can so what they've so the the
16. 3:12nonprofit wholly owns the for-profit the for-profit is a capped for-profit meaning that once an investor makes back
17. 3:24100x I think 100x is the cap once they make back 100x of what they invested and of that money goes back to the nonprofit for the benefit of
18. 3:34humanity are you a paid spokesman for Comcast I am listen I love exfinity so much exfinity you know it's the future
19. 3:44it's the future so what we have is we have a wire that comes into our house and then it goes through a mouse nest
20. 3:50and it goes back out of the house into a squirrel's Nest it runs down into a gutter where a family of raccoons live
21. 3:58and then it comes into the router and even through all of that it's just this is how magically good Xfinity is it
22. 4:05is just I'll tell you what it's like butter you know it's like I like have you ever had a butter biscuit oh my God
23. 4:12I love butter biscuits so good you a little bit of a drizzle a honey on a butter biscuit oh my God so uh Comcast
24. 4:19Xfinity is just like that it's just like a good old butter biscuit and you and you just you put it it melts in your
25. 4:25mouth I'll tell you what though sometimes it does give me the indigestion that's I I'll tell you a little secret I keep a little Pepto
26. 4:32bismo right in the cabinet right next to where I get the butter biscuits it's so good it's so good I eat them I I know
27. 4:38they're going to give me the upset I know they're going to give oh I'm a little gassy right now I just probably
28. 4:43is that too much information you probably don't want to hear about that oh but I love a butter biscuit just like
29. 4:49I love Xfinity from Comcast it is just like butter and gas well not I mean it's yeah all right then fantastic Bob tell him what he's won
30. 5:02the open AI structure combines a nonprofit org with a capped profit arm this model was created to ensure open ai's mission to
31. 5:12develop safe and universally beneficial artificial general intelligence is not comp compromised by profit motives you
32. 5:20know this is one of the things that I have never quite understood is that Elon Musk categorize you know just uh like
33. 5:29talk about this oh they wenten for-profit and like everyone talks about oh it's for-profit now so it's all
34. 5:34[ __ ] well yeah but it's it's it's a really unique structure like not enough I guess you know what it is we're in America well I'm in
35. 5:43America and in America we don't like subtlety we like we like butter biscuits and trucks like we like it simple and so
36. 5:53if it's for profit it's evil and if it's not for profit it's good you know completely discounting the fact that not for-profits can be
37. 6:04corrupt so so yeah so anyway the for-profit subsidiary is fully controlled by the nonprofit I'm let's ask it
38. 6:16um what is the capped ratio period how much can an investor make before the profit goes back into the nonprofit entity
39. 6:31[Laughter] Matt wolf just posted what really happened at open AI let's go look at that did he do it in a
40. 6:40video because if he did it in a video he's probably just reading off Twitter posts knowing knowing Matt Wolf's stuff or did he post it
41. 6:49on the Twitter like is it sourced I did a quick search and here's what I found under open AI capped profit
42. 7:02yeah the returns for investors are limited to a 100 times their initial investment the model is to align which
43. 7:09not for nothing 100x on your investment is not bad so you know for the 10 billion dollar that's a lot YouTube yeah it's we can go look at
44. 7:24his thing I'm guessing it's not going to be anything new um Matt uh uh uh
45. 7:39wolf what really happened it open thei this game you're not ready we are seriously witnessing the craziest Silicon Valley
46. 7:54soap opera we've ever seen yeah he's show he's showing all the tweets that that we've already looked at ton tonight
47. 8:00let me let me let me go to the end here and see if there's anything new our research plan our safety and Alignment work particularly open AI
48. 8:09board is now in discussion with Sam Alman okay yeah this is all stuff we know the board that is all stuff we already know
49. 8:17people we already know it we're ahead we're ahead of the game we're looking at this stuff in real time just make gp5 the
50. 8:24board yeah not a bad idea Ethan mullock my vote for the equivalent of the bomber with
51. 8:44bullet thei AGI has been achieved internally this is Matt myess and Ilia hit the panic button in stage a coup evidence on 106 Elia tweets
52. 9:01if you value intelligence above all other human quality you're going to have a bad time 1016 at Apec s proclaims four times
53. 9:15in the history we talked about that that's it okay yeah this is this is all just re rehashing news
54. 9:31to be honest having gp4 Claude 2 and grock as board members would probably outperform 99.9 % of the boards out there it's probably
55. 9:39[Laughter] true New York City commercial real estate meltdown begins you can get all the news here in the AI learning
56. 9:50lab I lost all respect for Ilia after this listen if if this is indeed if they did hit AGI and CU Ilia would be the one that knows
57. 10:03that and and if it and if it really did come down to Sam's like we got to get it in the world and Elie is like we can't put it
58. 10:11in the world like that's a that's an existential the thing that happened yesterday was so immediate and so awkward and so unthought
59. 10:23Out and because it wasn't something like some weird sex scandal or something where you could point to it like
60. 10:29like there's no obvious thing that happened then it it it you know then like it could be plausible that they
61. 10:38they hit something where Elia felt that you know we got to slow Sam down he can't he can't go raise this hundred
62. 10:46billion dollar because if he does we're going to build the machine that can take this technology and and put it out in the world
63. 11:13so so the joke here my girlfriend just texted me this [ __ ] hey need to talk could you jump into this Google meet in
64. 11:19the next 10 minutes that's that's what uh Greg Brockman got they well I think both both Sam Alman and Greg Brock
65. 11:27Brockman got got this which it was pretty funny if you're looking at the the tweets the fact that Microsoft's a
66. 11:3449% owner of open Ai and they use Google meet everyone lost their mind over that that's really funny oh man crazy crazy
67. 11:47crazy there's some more neotokyo stuff wow wow wow wow wow people is that no
68. 12:01there they are it's like washing the Kardashian but for geeks there's Myra that's Sam there's Greg Brockman and there's Elia it's the
69. 12:16whole crew [Laughter] yikes wow wow wow wow people all right I love how one or two people have The Moxy
70. 12:28to slow down progress for the rest of us yeah well again it see as shittily as it was done I would like to know the full story
71. 12:41because if it really if it really is that they've hit AGI and elely is freaking out I'll give him some level of
72. 12:51pass cuz it's pretty intense like we we're not supposed to hit it for like a decade and then it was like well maybe
73. 12:56in five years and now it's like oh maybe it's here quick question will we have what we have accomplished tonight with any of this
74. 13:06speculation oh what have we accomplished tonight is it just for fun yeah this is just for fun I don't give a [ __ ] like until until
75. 13:16um you know until some actual news comes out nothing's nothing but but I if if uh so so let's let's let's say that um the
76. 13:29employees did stage the the coup the the employees said if if the board doesn't resign we're going to leave and then the
77. 13:37board says okay we'll resign and then they say well why don't we actually go into the negotiating room and see what
78. 13:42that actually looks like and let's bring Sam back and what's so what they're likely doing right now now if any of
79. 13:49this [ __ ] is true is they're probably just in there with a pile of lawyers including Microsoft lawyers open AI
80. 13:55lawyers Sam Altman's lawyers Greg brockman's lawyers probably lawyers from all the investors like it's probably a
81. 14:02good 30 or 40 person screaming [ __ ] right now um and you know and then they're going to come out of it and then
82. 14:11we'll know and and and we'll see over time I mean this is such a public thing that they're going to have to say what
83. 14:18happened they're going to have to say what happened at some point so yeah this is just for fun we're just [ __ ] around
84. 14:25here pow pop boom two new found ERS influencers join neotokyo so these are the these are the uh these are the neotokyo citizens
85. 14:36that's one of them all right all right people wow wow wow wow can't stop
86. 14:53progress so the employees will have Sam back or they go off and do it on their own absolutely absolutely they developed AGI get
87. 15:07pressured to release it and then gets fired and his team [Music] quits very diverse
88. 15:25photo the memes are awesome today yeah the memes have been pretty good hey hey hey a human being what's
89. 15:34happening make the board eat the [ __ ] sandwich they deserve yeah they I mean listen this this was clearly not an experienced
90. 15:44commercial you know commercially viable board I mean it's got to be a trip being part of a company that was flying under
91. 15:56the radar for so long and then they they released gpt3 in 2020 and that makes a little bit of noise and then in
92. 16:082022 mid journey and stable diffusion make more noise because the images kind of take over and then they release and
93. 16:16then Microsoft invests a billion they release chat GPT it gets a million users in 5 days sometime 3 weeks or so after they
94. 16:27invest a billion Microsoft invest 10 billion and then 6 weeks later they hit 100 million users fastest adoption of
95. 16:33technology in history that sequence from November 30th to mid January 22 and 23 that sequence is what changed
96. 16:44everything because it had they launched chat GPT and no one gave a [ __ ] if they got a million users over 20123 they have a decent
97. 16:57valuation but that's not what happened so we're this is we're just in a different place all the money all the
98. 17:03investment all the tech companies everyone has shifted all of their focus to AI because of this stuff full government com disclosure of
99. 17:13uaps announced roll out I'm not saying it's connected but so wait Sam thank you Joe mama I love that one that's my
100. 17:21favorite filter I think that one and there's sherbear always does this one with dangly lights down here I love that one too um
101. 17:32what if one of the viewers is an AGI just walk Sam and start a new one I you know I don't know about that well I mean listen Sam can
102. 17:41absolutely write his own ticket right now Sam has got all of the leverage he's Sam's got more leverage right now than
103. 17:48probably any entrepreneur in history it's it is staggering the amount of Leverage he has right now he can literally do what he
104. 18:05wants so I guarantee you if he's going back to open AI one of the reasons we haven't heard anything in an hour or two is
105. 18:17they're in there negotiating how this never [ __ ] happens again those lawyers that's why I don't practice anymore exactly herir girl geek
106. 18:29yeah I know um full government disclosure announced roll out was Barbara was that full government
107. 18:46disclosure announcement today or was that the one that was announced like they they announced that like two months ago that one or is there
108. 18:55something new that I missed as well I'm missing all sorts of [ __ ] today apparently what time is it I got to go
109. 19:01here when did I say I'd pick up my kids 9:45 I think I said 9:45 so I got about a half hour to get up there I gotta go people I got I got I
110. 19:11got children to pick up at a [ __ ] Thanksgiving party how about 9:45 all right I'll go for another 15 minutes
111. 19:19here we'll hang out for another 15 minutes so cuz I got to go I got to go to Boulder I got to go to where am I
112. 19:25going Lafayette I don't know somewhere up there toward Boulder I got to go there then I got to come back and I got
113. 19:33back in time for the F1 race then we got to watch the F1 race all
114. 19:47right Alman is not an engineer or scientist no that's why that's why El is freaking out because this past week thank you l
115. 19:59Rivera Greg Brockman and Alman were in the Middle East trying to raise hundred billion doll and they were probably doing
116. 20:08it which is probably why Elia freaked out be careful driving thank you oh man hopefully he has better attorneys
117. 20:23next time seriously Boulder Lafayette haha I live in Longmont oh that's awes awesome Grace that's fantastic yeah I live in Denver I
118. 20:37live in North Denver you should join the oh so so for folks here um if anyone's in Colorado um I talked about this earlier
119. 20:52but I know there's a bunch of new people here um this channel is is kind of an extension of a a larger Community I
120. 20:59started called the AI Salon we meet every other week here in Denver so and we also meet remotely so if you don't
121. 21:06want to drive down from Longmont um but go to the salon. we've got a Discord server uh we're about to launch a mighty
122. 21:13Network server that's going to replace some of the Discord stuff but you can go join the Discord server now we have
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125. 21:33we've got a healthc care Guild so there's there's a bunch of different subcommunities within it um go to the
126. 21:40salon. check out the first document that talks about who we are and what our values are things like curiosity and
127. 21:48exploration and generosity and inclusion and empathy um so make sure you resonate with the values if you resonate with
128. 21:56them hang come hang out with us and and be cool and generous and let's learn [ __ ] together and collaborate together
129. 22:03um so anyway that's what that is uh couple other things um uh please if you'd be willing follow the channel also I just created um a series
130. 22:16Tik Tok now allows me to create curated series of videos so I created my first one called underhyped which is sort of a
131. 22:25general primer on AI so if you're new to AI or if you're in business and you're trying to figure out like is this just
132. 22:30all hype or [ __ ] I think it's underhyped and and that's a collection of videos I've done over the past year
133. 22:37that talk about all sorts of things about AI like how does it compare to the early days of the worldwide web and and
134. 22:43you know how do you use it how do you prompt it how do you not get overwhelmed by it so it's it's a pretty neat thing
135. 22:48so somewhere on the interface now is a link to the to the series I don't know where it is on the interface and I think my interface is
136. 22:57different than years but if that's something that'd be interesting to you it's it supports the channel if you end up doing that
137. 23:16um which is why medium human is okay MVP let's build something better this is Sam's Obi-Wan Kenobi moment it totally is totally is
138. 23:30yesterday it's new well Barbara if we're going to I no I I do think it's coincidence that they're that they I
139. 23:39mean they've been [ __ ] around with announcing like who announced that there was going to be a UAP um disclosure
140. 23:48yesterday was it was it like some like the wacko that put over whatever the last Congressional hearing was where the
141. 23:55people were like I've definitely seen space ship no they were like I've definitely talked to a guy that's seen
142. 24:02spaceships I'm like does anyone have any evidence oh there's evidence it's in a I left it in my other briefcase it's in
143. 24:09the other briefcase but it's oh there was a lot of the they had the big eyes with the the little and the they and
144. 24:16they the spindly little hands that's with in the the with the the three seats like I got the tester's model of should I still use
145. 24:28should I still major in computer science with GPT 5 around the [Laughter] corner uh janoi
146. 24:43Masters that is your call I would say I don't know where you are in the process if you've got a year left finish it if you're a freshman
147. 24:59if you're somewhere in between that's it's a toin TOS coin toss I would um first of all I would say um does is your school leaning in
148. 25:13heavily to understanding AI are your professors leaning in heavily into it if they're not I would take everything
149. 25:21they're teaching with a grain of salt and I if I were you and you've got technical chops in any way I'd go go
150. 25:28um join all of David Shapiro's open- Source projects uh go start playing around Lang chain go start playing
151. 25:35around with GPT for all and and the autonomous agents and all the open- source large language models I would just go
152. 25:44fullon just do self- immersion into all this AI stuff I would join you know go to redit and hang out go join all the open- source
153. 25:55projects and just [ __ ] work just just I would go balls to the wall on you know teaching your stuff that because so then so because then
154. 26:08what you do is you graduate with a computer science degree which is going to hold some Merit but you're not just a coder right
155. 26:15if you're just a coder then you're going to be competing against GPT 4 like you don't even need to wait for GPT 5 like
156. 26:23gp4 is all like it's I mean we're essentially at the point if you go look at some of the [ __ ] that is being done
157. 26:30with GPT Vision right now where they're just popping in an interface and it's writing an app like we're not that far
158. 26:38from you know the future that the future that you're potentially fearing so so I just go all in and teach
159. 26:47yourself and if you're close to the end get your computer science degree and then come out as a [ __ ] kickass AI
160. 26:54literate AI Ops kind of person because they're going to be so in demand everyone's going to be trying to figure
161. 27:00out which tools can I use how do I use it how do I incorporate it with our data how do we maintain privacy how do I
162. 27:05maintain security holy [ __ ] everything's changing so if you can be nimble and and curious and learn tools um how do we
163. 27:14find those on Tik Tok saw your Tik tock on videos today but couldn't get that link I don't know somewhere in the live so I put as
164. 27:27part of the live maybe it's is it in my name check check my name uh so there's somewhere there's a link
165. 27:43to a thing called Series so maybe go to my name maybe somewhere on the page is a thing called series look look at the
166. 27:49icons on the bottom the icons on the top I honestly don't know does anyone in Discord do any of the mods know where
167. 27:56the uh the series link is see Tik Tok just created these thing called series I don't know a couple of weeks
168. 28:04ago and I I just decided to try one today it's a really janky interface right it's like all new technology it's
169. 28:10really janky um but the the actual result of what it created is actually pretty cool so I I don't know Mary Mary
170. 28:17I'm sorry about that it was on the bottom left but now we just have subscribed oh because I guess I've got to add it
171. 28:25every time I come new so if you to the to my pinned videos oh yeah you couldn't you couldn't select the link there the
172. 28:33link for those videos was on the bottom left okay I'll do it next time just come back tomorrow night I'll make sure I do
173. 28:39it so I've got to do it every time I go live I've got to make sure that I turn that on all right underwater basket weaving
174. 28:46is a great option yeah exactly I you know I I think physical trades are actually going to the the new South Park
175. 28:54movie where you've got all the knowledge workers standing outside Home Depot trying to get plumbing jobs it's everything's going to be fine
176. 29:06it's all GNA be good we're good everything's good right it's going to be good Sam alman's going to have a job
177. 29:12soon here pretty much in his own company or back at open AI we just don't really know yet do we everything's going to be fine
178. 29:19right satio wasn't having any of it Sam will be back by the end of Thanksgiving at the latest that's my friend David Armano
179. 29:28uh I think that was just him pontificating but I agree I think I think Microsoft lost their [ __ ] [ __ ] they're like hey we're not [ __ ]
180. 29:40around here you no you did what we we've committed the entire next 5year road map of Microsoft to to this
181. 29:56janky piece of [ __ ] technology and you did what without talking to us I yeah you know that you know that
182. 30:08happened Elon Musk the Split Second Court opens on Monday excorp will be filing a thermonuclear lawsuit against all Media
183. 30:23Matters and all who colluded in this fraudulent attack on our company huh elon's like they're talking about
184. 30:33Sam too much you got to talk more about me I know my rocket blew up today but all right we'll do a lawsuit these [ __ ]
185. 30:45billionaires just got off a long flight did I miss anything oh man alive people it's crazy I would pivot to cyber security
186. 31:00and try to find a program that is AI first yeah exactly yeah well AI Ops cyber security um all the open source projects I mean
187. 31:12honest to God if if you're AI literate and and are a decent engineer um there's going to be AI companies to join every Fortune 500
188. 31:22company going to be trying to figure out how to deal with this every single one of them and every agency is going to
189. 31:28have to deal with this every consulting company it just do not if especially if your school and your professors are not deeply committed to
190. 31:42AI if they're if they're skimming over it and go like yeah it's important all right can you still hear me can anyone hear me can you hear
191. 31:56me can can anyone hear me I like turtles apparently the board are already discussing Alman returning yep we talked
192. 32:03about that Grace can you hear me yes okay good you good okay great fantastic I don't know what I was talking about go
193. 32:11pick up the twins yeah I got to go pick up the twins all right it's 9:30 all right thank you Sherry D thank you
194. 32:16moderators thank you everyone for hanging out tonight um I'll be back tomorrow night I'm going to you should
195. 32:22watch the F1 race tonight cuz you never know what manhole cover is going to fly up and destroy a car I'm sorry I missed
196. 32:29the beginning take care that's okay grace um no no no it's it's good um yeah no we the uh thank you mods yeah Sam
197. 32:37Alman thank you so much Sam alman's in here uh he's so listen I know he's busy with his little Cur fluffle but he likes
198. 32:45hanging out in the AI learning Lab live so thanks Sam good to see you tonight all right he and I have patched up our
199. 32:51he's not as jealous of me anymore I don't think so it's good all right peace out everybody um okay Joker hair growth
200. 32:59geek Nancy good to see you Grace hunt good to see you come to a salon meeting Joe mama Dr J I on China good to see you
201. 33:07all Sherry D Be not Afraid as always thank you Ted Sam Alman Pedro all right Source Camp good to see you all right Tobias
202. 33:18peace out digital hen all right everyone peace I'll see you tomorrow