3/18/2026 - Navigating the Urge to Nest and the Feeling of Being Whelmed

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0:02 Come on, champ. There you go. Let go.
0:05 You want a thing? You want a thing? You
0:07 want a thing? Come on, champ. Mhm. Mhm.
0:11 Mhm.
0:26 Oh,
0:35 desperately his old place dream discover
0:39 a new space himself alive
0:46 inside his We can't do this without
0:48 sunglasses. Come on people, it's a
0:51 tradition. It's three-day old tradition.
0:58 Wow.
1:23 Wow.
1:50 Spin B3 in the house. What's happening?
2:32 Woohoo!
2:36 Yeah!
3:01 Hello.
3:04 Hello.
4:02 Oh yeah.
4:19 Woohoo!
4:29 Lou.
4:46 Hello.
5:41 Lou.
6:01 Don't you
6:54 Oh man.
7:15 How do you feel?
7:37 Sometimes.
7:55 I have a question.
7:58 Is anyone on here
8:02 feeling a strong urge to organize some
8:05 part of their house in the past two
8:07 weeks?
8:17 Mimi, Danielle.
8:21 Okay,
8:23 go on. Anyone else?
8:29 Oh, Brandon's Brandon's trying to rain
8:32 on my parade.
8:35 Spin B3.
8:37 My desk is disaster.
8:42 Redid my office.
9:05 No source camp. It doesn't count if you
9:08 probably need to. I probably need to
9:10 clean up this room that I do this show
9:12 out of. That doesn't count.
9:17 My personal desk is fine. The work work
9:19 one looks terrible.
9:23 I have two boys. Enough said. That's
9:24 really funny.
9:48 Yeah.
9:51 Yeah.
9:54 Woohoo.
10:06 Yeah.
10:30 I'll tell you why I'm asking in a in a
10:32 bit.
10:40 Did what spark joy?
10:55 Oh, the Marie Condo thing. Does it spark
10:57 joy? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
11:24 Load the car and write the note.
11:30 Grab your bags and grab your coat.
11:36 Tell the ones that need to know
11:41 we are headed north.
11:49 One foot in and one foot back.
11:54 Well, it don't pay to live like that.
11:59 So, I cut the ties and jump the tracks
12:05 for never to return.
12:12 Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me in.
12:17 Are you where the shape I'm in?
12:22 My hands they shake my head it spins.
12:27 Oh, Brooklyn take me in. Almost choked
12:32 him on the spit.
12:34 When at first I lost I learned to speak.
12:40 I used all my words to fight
12:45 with him and her and you and me.
12:50 Yeah, it was just a waste of time.
12:55 It was such a waste of time.
13:02 That woman, she's got eyes that shine.
13:07 Like a pair of stolen polished eyes.
13:12 She has to dance. I said it's fine.
13:17 I'll see you in the morning time.
13:24 Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me in.
13:29 Are you aware the shape I'm in?
13:34 My hands they shake, my head it spins.
13:39 Oh, Brooklyn, Brooklyn, take me in.
13:44 Three words that became hard to say.
13:51 I had love and you.
14:00 But you were then I am today.
14:05 Look at the things I do.
14:13 Brooklyn, take me in.
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14:54 Sorry, Lord Digital Gods.
14:59 Ah,
15:02 okay.
15:05 I'm piles deep. Okay, so here's the
15:08 thing.
15:11 the the the amount of weird
15:14 synchronicity in this community is is
15:17 weird.
15:21 So, so if you don't know,
15:26 Cindy [ __ ] and I check in like once a
15:27 week. We try to. We're pretty good at
15:29 it. We check in once a week just like,
15:30 "How you doing? How you doing? How you
15:33 doing?" Like two little old ladies. Hey,
15:36 how's it going? How's it going? God, I
15:39 I've been in a studio. I've been I've
15:40 been doodling. A lot of doodling, a
15:42 little collaging. You know,
15:48 that's that's not how Cindy [ __ ] talks,
15:50 but you know, that's the spirit of it.
15:58 So, we've been doing this for the past
15:59 year or so, and and we're we're like
16:02 often in weird synchronicity, just like,
16:04 "How are you doing? I'm doing this. Oh,
16:06 I'm doing that." There's a lot of that
16:07 going on.
16:08 So I call T. I hope you I hope this is
16:10 okay. Me sharing Cindy. So I call
16:14 and she's a little quiet and and uh so
16:17 she goes, "How are you doing?" I like I
16:20 don't know.
16:26 Like I didn't want to say it, but I was
16:29 just like I don't know what to do.
16:32 Like I'm in this weird It's not even a
16:34 funk there. Like a funk is like a
16:36 depression. This isn't that
16:39 this is like a I don't know what to do.
16:40 Like I feel like
16:43 stuff's about to change dramatically and
16:45 quickly and I'm and and I'm in this
16:48 place where I'm like I does it does it
16:51 matter what I do right now because
16:53 things are going to change quickly and
16:55 dramatically enough.
16:59 Hey Chris, what's happening? Chris,
17:00 you're here. I love love knowing I can
17:02 always find you live and sharing and
17:04 connecting like this. Thank you sir. I
17:06 appreciate it. Actually, this is, you
17:08 know, the conversation you and I had was
17:10 in this neighborhood. Bed, you know, a
17:13 little bit of my soul to Cindy and said,
17:14 "I just I don't like I just I don't know
17:17 what to do what to do."
17:19 And she she got really quiet and I was
17:21 like, "Oh, no. What did I say?" And she
17:25 goes she goes, "Kyle," she goes, "I
17:28 don't want to do anything." She goes,
17:29 "I'm" she go she goes, "Yesterday
17:31 morning, I cleaned out my pantry." She's
17:33 got she's got her place to herself like
17:35 her her husband and daughter are on a
17:37 road trip. So she's got her place saved
17:40 her place to herself for 10 days and and
17:43 she's like she's like I I've got this
17:47 feeling like I've got to prepare. I've
17:50 got to like I have to have things in
17:51 order and and I've got to do my I did my
17:54 pantry and and I did my clothes like all
17:57 my clothes are out of my closet. She
17:58 pulled them all out. She sent me a
18:00 picture of her clothes like all over the
18:02 sofas and chairs that were just
18:03 everywhere.
18:05 I was like, "Shit." Okay.
18:09 And then this afternoon I did the AI
18:12 readiness podcast with with one Ann
18:14 Murphy and and the the show ended and
18:16 and she you know hung out backstage and
18:18 so we were chatting for a bit
18:21 and I was remembering a conversation I
18:24 had on Tuesday in this other community
18:25 that I'm in and one of the guys in there
18:28 came in and he he started out the
18:30 conversation by saying
18:35 this word keeps coming up in my
18:37 conversations and I don't know what to
18:38 do with it. And the word is
18:40 inevitability.
18:42 Like it's it feels like things are
18:45 inevitable. Like something's inevitable.
18:47 So it came up on Tuesday and then I
18:49 talked to Cindy and then and then I was
18:51 telling Ann Murphy some version of this
18:54 and I said I said, "Oh, I talked to
18:55 Cindy [ __ ] this morning and she's she's
18:57 nesting."
18:59 Because that was a term Cindy used. She
19:01 goes, "I I feel like this need," she
19:02 said, "I feel like I'm nesting." And
19:05 like I've got to prepare I've got to
19:06 prepare the nest. And I was like,
19:07 "That's fascinating. That's wild. And so
19:09 I said that to Ann and Anne Murphy goes,
19:12 "Oh my god, for the last two weeks I've
19:14 been nesting. She's totally re reddoing
19:17 her closets. She's going through all of
19:19 her kids knickknacks that they had, you
19:21 know, from their childhood and they're
19:23 now grown and she's like figuring out
19:25 what to take to Goodwill and what to
19:27 There is something going on. I I maybe
19:30 it's not about overwhelm.
19:32 It's just wellelmed. Okay, Chris,
19:36 I I honest to God.
19:40 Okay, Chris. Chris Huer,
19:45 I I need to ask you a serious question.
19:48 Have you bugged my house?
19:53 So last night,
20:00 it is so weird you use that word.
20:03 Maybe it's not about overwhelm.
20:05 Overwhelmed. It's just wellelmed. Okay,
20:08 this is [ __ ] weird.
20:12 You all You all got to get out of my
20:14 head. Um,
20:17 last night I was just surfing TikTok. I
20:20 think I even have my light out. I don't
20:22 know. I think I did. I might have had my
20:23 light on, but my son came in.
20:28 Oh, he had to order something on Amazon.
20:30 He had to get on my machine.
20:33 And my son comes in and and he he's
20:37 saying something or something else. I
20:38 said, "How are you doing?" And he he
20:40 said he said he said, "I'm wellelmed."
20:44 Or maybe I'm just wellelmed.
20:46 And I made fun of him. I said I said,
20:49 "No, you can't be wellelmed.
20:52 You can't be wellemed. You're either
20:53 overwhelmed or you're underwhelmed. You
20:55 can't be wellelmed. Wellelmed is not a
20:56 word." And so I went to Quinn and I
20:59 said, "Quinn, you've got to settle a
21:00 fight for me. I'm I'm trying to
21:02 humiliate my son here." And he just used
21:04 the word wellelmed.
21:06 Synchronicity, my friend. He just he
21:09 just used the word wellelmed. And I'm
21:11 pretty sure that's not a word. And Quinn
21:12 was like, "I hate to break it to you,
21:14 Kyle. Wellelmed is a word. I've never in
21:18 my life, and I'm a writer, like I
21:20 studied Shakespeare. I've never heard
21:22 the word wellelmed
21:25 and I've heard it twice in two days
21:28 and everyone's cleaning out their
21:29 [ __ ] closets.
21:34 It's right next to combabulate. Exactly.
21:37 The recombobulation.
21:41 And to be honest, somewhat obvious word
21:43 play. Yeah, exactly. I'm whelmed.
21:46 Maybe my CI Wait, what's that? Let's
21:49 see. In times of inevitability
21:51 and flux, build yourself up to be
21:53 unstoppable. I think that's right.
21:56 A bit of uncertainty mixed with the
21:58 desire to find new ground from which to
22:00 grow. So,
22:02 so all sort of joking about the
22:04 synchronicity aside,
22:07 you know, we're in a we're in a weirdly
22:08 unstable, you know, geopolitical state
22:11 right now. Um,
22:14 it is quite clear to me that at least
22:19 one of the Frontier models, and my my
22:21 suspicion is two of them,
22:24 um, have something that they haven't
22:26 released yet that's big.
22:29 December and January, all of the coders
22:32 said, "Oh [ __ ] Opus 4.6 marks a turning
22:36 point. These things are now good enough
22:38 to code for real."
22:40 And then OpenClaw comes out in February.
22:44 And so now OpenClaw is the fastest
22:47 adopted open-source
22:50 project in history by far.
22:53 Um
22:56 and on the AI readiness um podcast today
22:59 with an um we had on
23:02 um
23:04 a guest that was talking about his 12
23:07 agent. He's got three instances of
23:11 Claude code managing
23:13 an orchestrator bot and I think 12 um
23:17 Claude bots doing automated marketing
23:20 for him and his and his clients.
23:25 And then
23:27 and then if you scroll through X, it's
23:31 just like every fifth
23:35 um post is some radical scientific
23:39 breakthrough. I saw one that they've
23:42 actually figured out how to put um
23:45 essentially an entire computer inside an
23:48 inside an atom or a molecule.
23:51 Must have been a molecule. I don't know.
23:54 some small some some small unit that
23:57 they have functioning like a computer.
24:00 I gotta run and get on a call. We'll
24:01 chat Friday. Cool. Sorry you can't hang
24:03 hang. Uh thanks for for freaking me out
24:05 with the realm with wellemed me thinks
24:10 thus does protest too much.
24:15 Maybe because everyone you know is
24:16 dramatic. Everything's an extreme. No
24:19 just wellelmed. I don't know a lot of
24:21 wellelmed people.
24:26 But thanks for hanging, Chris. That's
24:28 cool. Um, so anyway, isn't that isn't
24:31 that crazy? So shit's happening.
24:33 Something's happening. Something's
24:35 happening. People are nesting. People
24:36 are wellelmed.
24:39 How is it possible?
24:42 Two days in a row I hear the word
24:44 wellelmed.
24:47 It's just weird. It's just weird. I've
24:50 had a whole life I've had a whole life
24:52 to have heard the word wellelmed.
24:55 I've probably deconstructed overwhelmed
24:57 and underwhelmed 20 times. I never
24:59 thought you could just say wellelmed.
25:04 Opus 4.6 is amazing. The collective.
25:08 Yeah, we're tapping into some [ __ ] I'll
25:10 tell you what, there's there are some
25:11 things opening up in this in this year
25:13 timeline.
25:17 I said something today that as I was
25:19 saying it,
25:24 I was kind of regretting it.
25:28 I was talking to someone this morning
25:31 who reached out to me, wanted to talk
25:33 about AI,
25:35 said, "Oh, you're really into this AI.
25:37 You got this positive attitude."
25:40 And she was
25:42 she was in that place of like, well,
25:44 I've got an intern and the intern's
25:46 starting to do things
25:49 to make our business more efficient and
25:51 I'm trying to learn it.
25:55 But she was afraid of it.
26:00 I just told her all the stuff I I say on
26:02 here all the time, right? Play first.
26:07 Put you at the center. This is about you
26:09 and your agency, not about the the
26:13 AI being a genius that replaces you.
26:17 You're the genius. It amplifies you. I
26:19 was saying all that [ __ ]
26:22 And then for whatever reason,
26:25 and I actually do believe this,
26:29 I said that
26:32 if you can get to the point that you're
26:33 free
26:35 with using AI
26:38 and you learn how it's actually working
26:40 and what it's been trained on, and you
26:42 can get in kind of a flow state, like a
26:44 collaborative flow state with AI. You
26:46 know how you get into a state where
26:49 you're going back and forth and you're
26:50 like, "Oh, yeah, and I could do this and
26:51 I could do that." and it's coming back
26:52 at you, right?
26:55 I said that I I sometimes feel like
26:59 working with AI can be a deeply
27:01 spiritual experience.
27:04 Like as the words are coming out out of
27:06 my mouth, I'm like, "Okay, that's
27:08 [ __ ] creepy."
27:12 I know. I agree, Champ. Yeah, it's
27:16 weird.
27:20 But if you think about what it is,
27:25 we're collaborating with all the people
27:28 that put all their thoughts on the
27:30 internet over 70 or 80 years. Many of
27:32 them are dead, but their ideas are still
27:35 there. Probably most of them are dead.
27:37 Most of the [ __ ] on the internet was is
27:40 from dead people, right? There's some
27:43 live musicians that are pissed off and
27:45 some artists that are pissed off. I
27:47 don't The writers don't seem to be all
27:48 that pissed off. Occasionally they are.
27:51 Sarah Silverman was pissed off,
27:57 but you know,
28:05 it's the reticular activation system.
28:08 That's a whole rabbit hole. What's the
28:10 What's the it in that sentence? No, it's
28:12 not creepy. It's a mirror of you.
28:15 You are a threat of the divine.
28:17 Everything is spiritual. Ah,
28:19 interesting. Champ says, "Kyle, put the
28:21 prayer beads down,
28:25 Kyle. AI is a mirror and so is the
28:27 inside of your head." Oh, do do it
28:29 during spiritual experience. It's
28:32 getting closer closer to who you truly
28:34 are. I think the reticular activated
28:36 system is part of the brain that tells
28:38 you what data is important and what to
28:40 pay attention to. Yeah,
28:43 that dog needs cheese. It's like a brain
28:46 massage.
28:48 the seeing things once you've seen them.
28:54 The reflection thing is is really an an
28:56 interesting one. I mean, it is a mirror.
28:59 And I suppose, listen, I suppose if if
29:03 we're all connected
29:06 and I create everything and you create
29:07 everything, then we're just tapping into
29:11 that. And maybe maybe that's why AI
29:13 feels so
29:16 feels so spiritual sometimes because
29:24 you know okay
29:27 one of my favorite
29:30 kinds of moments as a human being
29:35 and we've all had this but you know when
29:37 you're in a brainstorming session you're
29:38 in a room with smart people
29:43 and you're like, "Okay, here's the
29:45 problem we're trying to solve and here's
29:46 the this and here's the that and
29:48 everyone they build up all the context."
29:53 And then some idiot in the room, usually
29:55 me, is like, "There are no bad ideas.
29:57 Say anything." Which is not true. There
29:59 are bad ideas and we should make fun of
30:01 Bob. Bob never has good ideas. But
30:04 that's neither here nor there. You can't
30:06 say that out loud. Bob's sensitive. But
30:09 to be clear, there are bad ideas. But
30:11 anyway, you say that you create a safe
30:14 space, right?
30:16 And then people are like, "What if we
30:18 made it a sandwich?" Oh, that's funny.
30:21 Hey, but wait, what if it's what if it
30:23 was a food truck? Oh, right. You know,
30:25 there's that, right? That and it goes on
30:28 for 10 minutes, 15 minutes, 30 minutes,
30:30 whatever it is, some amount of time, and
30:32 people are just throwing ideas out and
30:33 people like, "Yeah, I like that. That
30:35 sounds good. That's really good." And
30:38 then at some point someone says
30:40 something
30:43 and the room goes silent
30:49 and you look around and everyone's like,
30:53 "Oh."
30:55 And usually at that moment I get full
30:57 body chills.
31:01 And then you like jump in and you're
31:03 like, "Well, yeah, if if it's that then
31:06 this and then this." And then you start
31:08 building on it. And it's this moment
31:10 where there there is unspoken agreement
31:13 that whatever that thing that was said
31:16 is the thing. It's the right thing.
31:20 Like that moment is the divine.
31:29 Can Can we nest your Tik Tok cam clean?
31:32 Yes.
31:38 that moment is the divine.
31:44 And I and I I have that with with AI
31:47 sometimes.
31:49 It's not a lot.
31:51 Sometimes I have it with other people
31:53 there. Sometimes I have it on my own,
31:54 but I'm throwing things in. Things are
31:55 coming back. Things It's happened on
31:57 here. It happens on here a lot.
32:00 It happened with Weird Mary. Um,
32:04 it happened with Before the Lights Come
32:06 On. It happened with Sydney,
32:09 you know, the the impetus to write a
32:12 musical was this moment of just like
32:16 that's a thing. It's a thing.
32:20 It's this moment of resonance, right?
32:28 Maybe that's why it's such a crackpipe.
32:31 It allows our thoughts and ideas to be
32:33 expressed when we have difficulty
32:35 getting it out. It's very introspective
32:37 AI.
32:39 The algorithm connects people.
32:48 It's like noticing the same model cars
32:50 on the road when you buy a new one.
32:51 That's also RA. Oh, the reticular
32:54 reticular activating system. Is that
32:55 what it was called?
33:01 reticular activated systems part of the
33:03 brain that tells you when data is
33:04 important and what to pay attention to.
33:05 Oh, that's cool.
33:08 Yeah.
33:22 I also got juggling balls.
33:26 Oh, the reticular activating system.
33:31 I got juggling balls. Are you excited
33:33 for me?
33:36 I haven't bought new juggling equipment.
33:38 I used to be a professional juggler if
33:40 you don't know. See if I can. So, I got
33:44 the reason I got these. These are bean
33:46 bags and so when they fall, they don't
33:48 roll away. The other balls I have, I'm a
33:52 connoisseur of balls.
33:55 These are Brian Dubet silicone juggling
33:59 balls.
34:00 2 and 3/4 in.
34:03 They are
34:05 insane
34:07 how good they are. But when you drop
34:09 them, they fly all over the place. So
34:12 bean bags.
34:21 They don't They don't run away when you
34:23 drop them.
34:26 So, I'm going to juggle more. Economy
34:29 one, baby. Economy one's coming at us
34:32 hard juggling balls. Kyle, you need to
34:35 wear better briefs.
34:39 And look, I got green and blue and
34:42 white. Aren't they cool? Why did you get
34:45 six? because I want to learn to juggle
34:46 five. I know how to flash five is what
34:49 they call it.
34:54 I can't do this from a chair.
35:04 All right. We're not going to try to
35:06 juggle five.
35:08 Not now. Not now. Not ever. Not ever.
35:12 We're never going to juggle five. Do you
35:14 do birthday parties? I'm impressed.
35:17 I look at my kid's 13th birthday party.
35:21 This guy's like a Swiss Army knife. I've
35:24 done a lot of [ __ ] Here's the cool
35:25 thing. If you're curious and you live a
35:28 while, you will have done some [ __ ] But
35:30 you have to be curious. You can't be
35:33 lumpy.
35:35 You can't be lumpy. Not my term.
35:37 Borrowed that term. Love that term. But
35:39 you can't be lumpy.
35:44 facts.
35:48 More proof that a college education is
35:50 worth it. Hey, I college is where I got
35:53 my first professional juggling job. I
35:56 was the uh I was the jester at the Utah
35:59 Shakespeare Festival in 198
36:03 seven seven
36:05 six
36:07 between my junior and senior year at
36:09 Penn State.
36:14 We should have an AI learning lab has
36:16 talent night.
36:19 I was born in ' 86. Nice. Yeah, I was in
36:22 1986. I was I was junior in college and
36:26 uh yeah, did Utah Shakespeare Festival.
36:29 It was really cool. They had a at the
36:31 time they had a replica of the Globe
36:33 Theater
36:35 and I played the jester and so ran
36:38 around acting like an idiot. And then we
36:41 did two nights a week they had they had
36:43 a Renaissance dinner where they served
36:45 like turkey legs and [ __ ] like that. And
36:47 then the entertainment was me and this
36:49 other guy Todd Merrill and we put on a
36:51 juggling show. It was good.
36:57 I love collecting random skills. I'm
36:58 chuck full of halfassery. Exactly. This
37:01 is This is And you know, I'll tell you
37:04 when juggling comes in handy, like when
37:06 you drop [ __ ] and you're you just
37:08 instinctively go and catch it. That's
37:11 pretty It's pretty good feeling.
37:15 I was married in ' 86. Nice. I graduated
37:19 from high school in ' 86. We got a lot
37:20 of 86 synchronicity here tonight.
37:26 Oh my god. I graduated in 76. I'm going
37:29 going to my 50th. Yikes. Yeah, I know.
37:31 Listen. Hey, we're we're none of us
37:34 spring chickens here.
37:37 Gesture, tell me a joke and I'll fetch
37:39 more wine. I'm parched. It was [ __ ] like
37:41 that. There was a lot of bad Renaissance
37:43 humor
37:44 making fun of people.
37:48 I did a tumbling show. I used to dive
37:50 over
37:52 um three or four barrels, dive over the
37:56 barrels, do a roll at the end, jump up
38:03 [ __ ] insufferable.
38:06 I have a real tough time at Renaissance
38:08 fairs now. I judge I judge others who've
38:12 chosen the path.
38:18 Oh, good lord.
38:21 Good lord. Anyway,
38:26 um yeah, nesting.
38:29 nesting. People are nesting. People are
38:30 nesting.
38:42 The guy the guy on the uh
38:46 on the podcast today, Sebastian,
38:50 um
38:53 he's he's been doing sort of, you know,
38:56 systems work for for years. And so the
38:59 way he set up Open Claw is is
39:02 very systemic, systematic,
39:06 um, and he's really successful with it.
39:08 And, and that's one of the things I am
39:10 not as systematic and so I'm having
39:12 trouble with it, which is fascinating.
39:14 I don't think it will always require you
39:16 to be as
39:20 systematic, but right now it does. I
39:24 find myself questioning
39:28 I was too short for a bike in 86.
39:36 Isn't it interesting that we're not all
39:37 spring chickens here? AI is embraced by
39:39 the older set. Well, you know, if if you
39:43 if you listen to media, what media
39:45 always says is the young people are
39:47 better with the AI and the old people
39:50 just don't get it. I'm like, no, that
39:53 was 1996.
39:56 this that's not the reality right now.
39:59 But it's possible that we're in a
40:01 bubble, but I don't think we are. I
40:03 think I talked to a lot of people that
40:05 are Gen Xie,
40:08 elder millennial, Gen XE, young boomers,
40:12 that whole range.
40:14 Everyone I talk to in there that's that
40:16 that's tried AI at all is like, "Hi,
40:18 holy [ __ ] I'm doing amazing. I love
40:20 this shit."
40:22 All the kids I talk to are like, "We
40:24 were told that AI is evil and we think
40:27 that anyone that uses it is equally e
40:30 evil."
40:31 I feel triggered.
40:35 Okay.
40:37 We grew up in the time of change.
40:42 Stoic in the corner. I don't know what
40:44 stoic's laughing at, but I like that
40:46 stoic is laughing.
40:49 Older people made external drives.
40:54 Stoic in the corner. That is a great
40:56 name. Um, your cards are back. My cards
41:00 are back. Wait, do I have card? I've got
41:02 cards here.
41:05 That's a good idea. I'll bring my cards
41:07 back. Oh, wait. I don't think I like
41:09 these. I don't like these. I'll bring my
41:11 [ __ ] cards back. You want my cards
41:13 back? I'll bring my cards back.
41:19 I totally can't sit still.
41:25 We might do something with AI tonight.
41:27 But economy one, if you're new to this
41:31 whole idea of the economies thing,
41:34 there's seven economies.
41:36 Well, there's about to be seven
41:37 economies. There's one economy right
41:39 now, but it's about to shatter.
41:44 And
41:46 we're going to have these independent
41:47 economies
41:53 and there's going to be crossovers.
41:54 There's going to be people that live in
41:55 multiple economies,
41:58 but you're going to have economy one,
41:59 which is just analog stuff like magic
42:01 shows and
42:03 live bands and blueberry farmers.
42:08 And then all the way over on the far end
42:10 is economy 7. And that'll probably go
42:12 like economy 8 n 10 but right now it's
42:15 seven.
42:17 What what economy is jugglers in
42:20 jugglers square in economy number one
42:24 analog the analog economy jugglers
42:27 inerson juggling not YouTube videos of
42:30 people juggling people juggling people
42:32 teaching people how to juggle you know.
42:39 Uh oh I lost one already.
42:44 That's economy one. Economy seven is all
42:48 the clawbots, the 50 agent companies
42:51 living on a chip managed by one dude or
42:54 one lady.
42:56 She's a fine lady. She's got many
42:58 clawbots.
43:01 Um
43:03 and then every and then the spectrum is
43:06 every level of AI adoption in between.
43:09 So,
43:15 so if you're if you're nesting right
43:17 now, if you're dealing with the atomic
43:20 world and you're feeling a a call
43:26 to play with physical cards and balls
43:33 and paintings and pens and paints and
43:38 dirt poop.
43:47 I think that economy is going to get
43:49 very robust over the next three to five
43:51 years
43:54 because this acceleration the
43:56 acceleration of AI, the stuff that
44:00 we on this channel and and people in the
44:02 AI salon community are kind of in the
44:04 midst midst of grappling with.
44:07 We
44:13 are trying to figure out
44:17 how big is our appetite
44:20 to keep going
44:22 because the keeping going part is
44:24 accelerating
44:27 was it it was Elon Musk. He was he was
44:30 interviewed by Peter Diamontis a week or
44:33 so ago
44:38 and and Peter asked him like
44:42 when he goes when does
44:46 when does takeoff begin? Talking about
44:49 the advance of AI and Elon Musk said oh
44:53 we're taking off like it's begun.
44:56 it's begun and it's you know I I think
45:00 December 2025 is so so if we're talking
45:04 significant dates
45:07 November 30th 2022
45:10 is chat GPT I think the next significant
45:13 date there's lots of little ones in
45:15 between there but the next significant
45:17 date is December 2025 the launch of Opus
45:21 4.6 six.
45:24 Like even on the the AI readiness
45:26 podcast today, we talked about that
45:29 cuz cuz Sebastian said um
45:34 he said he said starting in January. He
45:36 goes, "No, it was really December when
45:39 it started." And I said, "Oopus 4.6."
45:41 And he goes, "Yeah, the jump from Opus
45:43 4.5 to Opus 4.6." He said that that
45:47 0.1 jump he said it it was a significant
45:52 jump
45:53 that things were different after that
45:56 and then open claws another one
45:59 many think AI sucks away intellectual
46:01 thinking but my experience is it doesn't
46:03 it gives more space yeah I listen my my
46:06 experience is that I have never been
46:09 more intellectually and creatively
46:11 stimulated in my life than the last
46:14 three and a years.
46:17 It's it's it does it creates space that
46:22 it does two things. It it allows you to
46:24 get ideas out of your head, which
46:25 creates space, but then what it does is
46:28 it reflects those ideas back to you in
46:30 this amplified way, which will often
46:32 give you more ideas. So, so you clear
46:36 [ __ ] out of your head, you pump [ __ ]
46:38 back into it, stirs around in the crazy
46:40 straw, comes back out, comes back in,
46:43 and those cycles happen incredibly
46:46 quickly. Yeah, it's I it it is the
46:50 opposite of of draining your intellect
46:52 or draining your creative juices.
46:57 Just a we are the knights who say n.
47:03 How much is opus 4.6? 20 bucks a month.
47:08 20 bucks a month. Um if you use it for
47:12 your clawbot, uh it's going to cost you
47:14 a lot of money.
47:16 So it's expensive for API calls.
47:22 Quantum Franklin, nice name. What's
47:24 happening? AI studio revamp tomorrow. Oh
47:27 yeah. So it looks like tomorrow
47:30 so in the past week and a half or so
47:33 Google has revamped
47:35 their the interface of AI studio which
47:38 is their development their AI
47:40 development hub and where you can use if
47:44 you want to do nano banana where you can
47:46 actually control the aspect ratio and
47:48 the the size of the image create images
47:50 created you can do it there. Um, but
47:53 tomorrow they're launching a new version
47:55 of AI Studio, their their vibe coding
47:57 environment, which was really good
47:59 before. So, if they're making um big
48:02 improvements to it, uh, that's something
48:04 to pay attention to. We'll probably play
48:06 with that tomorrow. Oh, no, a new
48:08 subscription coming. AI Studio credits
48:10 are no longer unlimited, though. Yeah.
48:13 One of the things that I've noticed is a
48:17 lot of the things that I used to play
48:18 with on here for free, I don't anymore
48:21 because they don't let you play for
48:23 free. Um, I saw a post today. I don't
48:27 know. I don't know the accuracy of it,
48:28 but it wouldn't surprise me that people
48:32 are paying $200 a month subscriptions
48:36 and then they're using these Open Claw
48:37 bots and they're spending about $5,000 a
48:40 month in tokens that at some point the
48:43 uh these big companies are going to
48:44 start jacking their rates up because of
48:46 how much how many tokens people are
48:48 using.
48:50 Ah, I was so bummed when it hit a wall
48:52 on a small app, apparently. Yeah, I
48:54 know. It sucks.
48:57 It sucks. It sucks. It's like your
48:59 neighborhood drug dealer. Free for a
49:02 minute, then it costs a lot.
49:05 $1,900 credit. I didn't know that.
49:14 What happened? What did I say?
49:18 Did I say oh drug
49:21 the thought police?
49:26 Oh man.
49:37 This is hard to do. Throw a ball
49:40 straight up so that it just goes
49:42 straight up and comes straight back
49:43 down. Try that. It's hard. It's hard.
49:48 It's harder to watch.
49:53 Hey, do you guys open source your works?
49:55 Uh,
49:57 I'm not really building anything.
50:00 Back in my day, AI was free and we liked
50:03 it that way. Hands had pretzels instead
50:06 of fingers.
50:10 You could have as many pictures as you
50:11 want. You couldn't use any of them, but
50:13 you could have them all.
50:18 Hey, Kyle. I hope you're well. How soon
50:20 AI will be able to let us know gas is
50:23 cheaper at this station and groceries at
50:27 that one? I think it can probably do
50:29 that now, right?
50:34 Gas Buddy can do that.
50:38 Let's see.
50:40 Gas Buddy.
50:43 But Gas Buddy, I assume Gas Buddy is
50:45 just a just sitting on top of the Google
50:47 API, right? I don't I assume that's not
50:50 AI.
50:51 Gas Buddy, cheapest gas.
50:55 I don't want a card. I don't really want
50:57 to log in.
51:02 Learn more.
51:08 Find gas.
51:10 Search
51:13 80211.
51:16 Go.
51:20 All right. There you go.
51:25 So, that's done with gas. And then what
51:27 was the other one? Groceries.
51:30 I think can't chat GPT.
51:35 If we put chat GPT into agent mode,
51:37 we'll put chat GPT into agent mode and
51:40 say, I want you look, okay, I live in
51:46 80211. I want you to find
51:51 the nearest gas station
51:55 with the cheapest gas.
52:02 the
52:04 grocery store with the
52:08 cheapest
52:10 organic kale
52:22 and and the hardware
52:26 store with the
52:29 cheapest. Uh, let's see.
52:33 Um,
52:37 let's see.
52:41 Weber
52:43 charcoal
52:46 grill.
52:48 You know the round one.
52:53 All right, let's see if uh if chatpt
52:55 agent can succeed in this. I think
52:58 that's Oceans. Is that you, Oceans? I
53:00 think so. Um, we'll we'll see if if
53:03 Agent can pull this off for us. It's
53:06 it's a it's a radically complicated pro
53:09 prompt. I know those of you that are
53:11 quantum physicists in the audience are
53:13 probably like, "Wait a minute. How do
53:14 you come up with a prompt that good?"
53:16 Holy, I I'm going to give up physics. I
53:19 I just can't I can't hold my own here. I
53:22 know. I know. Champions whimpering.
53:24 What's wrong? Do you want cheese? What
53:26 do you want? Are there people in the
53:28 kitchen and you're hoping they're going
53:29 to give you cheese?
53:31 You know what's going to happen, right?
53:35 Do you know what's going to happen?
53:37 You're going to go out there, no one's
53:38 going to give you cheese, and then
53:40 you're going to whimper out there to
53:41 come back in here.
53:43 Right. Cuz you like hanging out with me.
53:45 Right.
53:47 Right. Right. You want to sing?
53:56 how
54:09 cheese taxes, dude. All right, let me go
54:11 let Champy out cuz he's going to keep.
54:23 >> He's whimpering.
54:41 All right, it's still going.
54:55 Organic green kale at Sprouts is $2.99.
54:59 Same day delivery.
55:02 I made a lovable app that tracked tariff
55:04 price alerts until they changed every
55:06 Oh, until they changed every day. I gave
55:08 up.
55:11 Token locally.
55:20 Cheese, please. Chat TBT has a shopping
55:23 research agent built in. It's in the
55:25 dropown menu. Oh, yeah, it does. It's
55:26 got that shopping thing, right? Oh,
55:28 yeah. Shopping research. I guess I could
55:30 have used that. Oh, well.
55:34 It really is amazing what's in chat GPT,
55:37 isn't it? all the stuff in it. Too bad
55:40 it sucks now.
55:42 That's that that's something that I I I
55:44 don't understand. I would This is the
55:46 documentary that I want to see is what
55:50 happened at Chat GPT. Was it Was it
55:52 really just that that many people left
55:54 that were the brains of the operation?
55:59 I don't know what happened there.
56:00 Something happened.
56:02 Did you see the agent industry evolving
56:05 into something
56:07 that could almost allow agents to run
56:09 agents? Oh, do I see?
56:11 Well, agents do run agents now. Oh,
56:14 without humans. Well,
56:19 technically,
56:21 yes. I mean, technically, you could just
56:23 turn on OpenClaw right now, spin up a
56:26 bunch of sub aents and spin up a bunch
56:28 of, you know, Open Clauss that are
56:30 managed by an orchestrator bot and just
56:32 turn it loose.
56:34 You could you could design it in such a
56:36 way that you don't have to watch it. Um,
56:40 it's new enough technology and the and
56:42 the uh
56:44 the models that that everyone's using
56:47 are still janky enough that it would
56:49 probably fail, but you can do that right
56:51 now. Why isn't there an easy way to keep
56:54 track of your token usage in an API?
56:57 Okay, Danielle, not sure if you're a
56:59 huge fan of Vegas. They call it Sin
57:02 City. Um, the reason it's not easier to
57:06 keep track of token usage is the same
57:09 reason there aren't clocks in casinos.
57:12 It's the same reason that if you want to
57:14 get to the free buffet, you have to walk
57:16 through the the the craps tables.
57:20 Um,
57:22 they just want your apps to keep
57:24 magically working. Oh, this app works so
57:26 good. And then you'll see your bill
57:29 later. So yeah, it's not they're not
57:31 incented to make it easy for you to
57:33 follow that. That said, you could you
57:36 could easily write your own dashboard or
57:38 you don't you don't have to write it.
57:40 Have your agents create a dashboard that
57:43 um measure their token use, put all the
57:45 um
57:47 the tables of the costs of your
57:49 different models in there as well. And
57:51 then it can track what models it's
57:53 using, how many tokens it's using, and
57:56 it can do all that math for you. So you
57:57 could create your own dashboard to do
57:58 that. Get Claude decode it for you. Send
58:02 the chat to them to a builder agent.
58:04 Yep.
58:06 They better be pizza.
58:09 There better be pizza and no damn
58:11 pineapple on the pizza. Listen, here's a
58:14 This is kind of a deal breaker for me.
58:16 If you're a pineapple on pizza loving
58:19 person,
58:21 this probably isn't the channel for you.
58:24 Okay. All right. All right. All right.
58:28 Good. I'm glad that's cleared.
58:31 Hey, Kyle, how's Adam? Have you talked
58:34 with him since the article he wrote?
58:35 He's now written seven articles. Stoic
58:37 in the corner. Um, he wrote one
58:40 yesterday
58:42 that I read I read here on the live and
58:45 uh he kind of called me out. He he kind
58:48 of called me an aggre Oh, wait. Here we
58:51 go. cheapest fuel.
58:56 The report on gas prices in Denver that
58:58 West 44th, the TA Travel Center in Wheat
59:01 Ridge
59:03 is at 3.69 a gallon.
59:07 All right.
59:10 The cheapest kale is at Sprouts. That's
59:12 the Sprouts I go to. And the cheapest
59:15 Weber grill is Tractor Supply Company's
59:18 Weber Grill. Charcoal kettle grill 22
59:21 inch lists at 149.
59:25 There you go.
59:30 So you can do that today ocean.
59:36 That's that's the thing about AI is
59:42 it can do more than you think it can do.
59:44 It can do a lot. It can do a lot. Can do
59:47 a lot.
59:55 Oh, wow. Seven. I read the one yesterday
59:58 right after you posted it. Okay. Yeah,
1:00:00 there's seven of them. If you just go to
1:00:02 my account on LinkedIn, um one one
1:00:04 through six are in there as well.
1:00:08 Um
1:00:09 and they're they're pretty good. They're
1:00:11 pretty well written. They're I'm I'm
1:00:14 surprised at how how well written they
1:00:16 are.
1:00:18 Oh, Silverf Fox likes pineapple on
1:00:20 pizza. Silverf Fox. Really?
1:00:26 I'm I'm not mad.
1:00:29 I'm disappointed.
1:00:36 I And And can we talk about another
1:00:38 thing? Can we please talk about another
1:00:41 thing?
1:00:44 Just below pineapple on pizza
1:00:48 is the barbecue chicken with purple
1:00:51 onion pizza
1:00:54 cuz they always put sweet barbecue sauce
1:00:56 on it. Pizza's not supposed to be sweet.
1:01:01 It's a savory item.
1:01:05 And so you you bite into the chicken one
1:01:07 and you're like, "Oh, it's going to be
1:01:09 chicken and savory and tasty." And then
1:01:11 it's sweet, but there's cheese and
1:01:13 tomato and then the onion.
1:01:17 Why did that one get adopted?
1:01:27 It's okay to be frustrated. A soggy
1:01:30 crust should be punable punishable by
1:01:32 flogging. Did you ever notice that on
1:01:34 the chicken barbecue onion
1:01:38 leaves a taste in your mouth for hours?
1:01:40 Pizza, you can never pick it up because
1:01:42 the crust is always soggy and you just
1:01:45 pick it up and your chicken bits fly off
1:01:47 and they pull the cheese with it and
1:01:49 then you're left with some crusty
1:01:51 twisted onions and barbecue sauce and
1:01:54 there's no cheese and you're like, "But
1:01:56 I got to eat it because I'm with friends
1:01:57 and that would be rude." And you're
1:01:59 eating it. Meanwhile, you're throwing up
1:02:01 a little in your mouth.
1:02:04 That's not pizza.
1:02:09 I'm going to ask Chachi BT, how many
1:02:11 people like Hawaiian pizza? See, this is
1:02:15 the important work of the irregulars.
1:02:18 I tea up tea up the idiotic ideas. You
1:02:22 take them to AI and realize those ideas.
1:02:25 You bring them to life. This is your
1:02:27 job. It's good. I like it.
1:02:34 Oh my god. Are we going to do anything
1:02:36 tonight? That's what we've been asking.
1:02:38 I don't know. I do not know.
1:02:46 This is good. So, this is making me
1:02:49 happy now. Look, people, I recently
1:02:51 learned about casserles. I haven't been
1:02:53 the same. Look, casserles.
1:02:56 I mean, granted, you have you have to
1:03:00 have a certain kind of upbringing to be
1:03:02 deep into the c casserole appreciation
1:03:05 game,
1:03:06 right?
1:03:08 But I mean,
1:03:11 Campbell's mushroom soup and frozen
1:03:14 green beans and and and the onions on
1:03:17 top.
1:03:20 That's solid. That's solid.
1:03:24 The cheese, the cheddar cheese chicken
1:03:26 with crushed potato chips on top.
1:03:33 I believe this was my debate.
1:03:36 Omnivore here. Can we do a poll?
1:03:40 Brandon, I don't know if you can if you
1:03:42 can still do polls or if any of the
1:03:44 moderators can do a poll. Let's let's do
1:03:46 a poll on how many people we have in
1:03:47 here. We only have 23 people in here,
1:03:49 but let's go. Let's go. cheese,
1:03:51 pepperoni, or Hawaiian. Wait, cheese,
1:03:54 pepperoni, Hawaiian, uh, or or barbecue
1:03:58 chicken. And if any of you vote for the
1:04:00 barbecue chicken, I will come through
1:04:02 Tik Tok. I will I will find you.
1:04:10 I can't. What is America eating? I cry
1:04:13 for you. You You really should. We're
1:04:16 not okay. We're not.
1:04:18 >> What were the
1:04:20 >> What were the choices? What were the
1:04:21 choices?
1:04:22 >> Plain, your classic, pepperoni. Can't go
1:04:25 wrong there. And then and then I I guess
1:04:28 we'll throw in deep dish because that
1:04:30 says that that'll reveal some of the
1:04:32 flawed individuals.
1:04:34 Um and then and then uh Hawaiian and
1:04:38 barbecue chicken.
1:04:42 Aby's pizza. No bueno. I per Fesh prefer
1:04:47 fresh but it's not good right now. We
1:04:50 have our ways to find you Valerie
1:04:53 Hawaiian.
1:04:55 >> And what was the last one? Barbecue
1:04:57 chicken.
1:04:58 >> Barbecued chicken.
1:05:01 Like it it it used to be that there was
1:05:03 one pizza shop in a 50 mile radius that
1:05:07 had the barbecue chicken pizza and like
1:05:09 everyone made fun of them and the other
1:05:12 pizza makers were like, "What are they
1:05:13 doing with the chicken? What is what is
1:05:15 that?"
1:05:17 And and now everyone's got it and it's
1:05:19 like high on the menu list. So you
1:05:21 accidentally order it. I'll take the
1:05:23 barbecue chicken. And you're a bite into
1:05:24 it. You're like, "What have I done with
1:05:25 my life?"
1:05:28 >> Thank you, Silver Fox. New York pizza
1:05:31 >> is live in the uh
1:05:33 >> Okay, we've got a poll
1:05:36 >> in the upper corner. If you're on Tik
1:05:37 Tok over there, over there,
1:05:41 that little angled blue and white thing.
1:05:44 Go vote. Hawaiian trivia. Pizza trivia.
1:05:48 It was actually invented in Canada, not
1:05:50 Hawaii, not the US, in the 1960s.
1:05:53 Didn't they do a documentary on on uh
1:05:56 Wait, I didn't know you were this big a
1:05:58 pizza. this big a pizza bigot. Kyle, you
1:06:02 think you know a person. Listen,
1:06:05 I I I definitely have food prejudices. I
1:06:08 do. I judge people. I judge people on
1:06:10 the food they eat.
1:06:13 I will judge them. I will prejudge them.
1:06:16 I will.
1:06:19 I can't vote. But pepperoni pepperoni
1:06:21 for me. That's That's an appropriate
1:06:24 choice. Plain or pepperon pepperoni.
1:06:26 I've got complete respect for you.
1:06:29 Chicago,
1:06:31 you just don't quite quite love yourself
1:06:34 enough to give yourself lasagna, right?
1:06:37 It's just a it's an inferiority complex,
1:06:40 right? You're somewhere between pizza
1:06:41 and lasagna. You go with the deep dish.
1:06:43 Makes you feel better. Kind of tastes
1:06:45 like lasagna, but you're like, but it's
1:06:47 not as fattening.
1:06:49 That's a character defect, right? Tasty,
1:06:53 don't get me wrong, but it's not pizza.
1:06:57 It's a mental disorder.
1:07:04 Chicago deep. Wait, wait. This needs to
1:07:07 be an ad. Wait. Okay, we're in chat.
1:07:09 GBT.
1:07:13 Okay, I need a vertical
1:07:17 um magazine ad
1:07:21 uh that has the headline
1:07:26 Chicago
1:07:28 deep
1:07:30 dish pizza
1:07:33 and then a
1:07:36 disgustingly
1:07:38 oozy
1:07:42 slice.
1:07:44 being pulled out of the pan with a
1:07:49 spatula.
1:07:53 spatula
1:07:57 and
1:07:59 in the background is a happy
1:08:04 Chicago in
1:08:08 the
1:08:10 tagline at the bottom
1:08:16 of the ad
1:08:20 is
1:08:23 it's a mental disorder.
1:08:29 Champ, shut up. Okay. Uh, please make
1:08:35 this ad.
1:08:37 Hawaiian is leading by a landslide.
1:08:39 They're just trolling me. The irregulars
1:08:41 are trolling me. I want it marked that
1:08:44 March 18th, 2026 is the day the
1:08:46 irregulars turned on me.
1:08:49 Nobody loves Hawaiian pizza that much.
1:08:53 Can we add pepper flakes? Of course.
1:08:55 Yeah, they're trolling me. Of course you
1:08:57 can add pepper flakes.
1:08:59 You should cancel next week. By the way,
1:09:01 I may have to cancel a fair amount of
1:09:02 things next week. And it is absolutely
1:09:05 your fault why I'm canceling
1:09:12 Chicago. Wait, we got we got an image.
1:09:15 Man, chat JPT's images are fast now. Why
1:09:18 can I not open this? Is it still
1:09:19 rendering? It's a mental disorder.
1:09:26 Oh my god, this is good. Why is this
1:09:28 still It's still going.
1:09:32 Image created. How do I download it?
1:09:36 More actions.
1:09:38 There we go. Download. All right.
1:09:43 This makes me happy.
1:09:55 This is going straight on the That's
1:09:58 going straight on the Twitter.
1:10:05 Hey, Windy City friends.
1:10:10 I'm gonna get I'm gonna get attacked for
1:10:12 this, aren't I?
1:10:19 Oh my god. Oh my god. He's totally
1:10:22 picking on Chicago. He's so edgy. You
1:10:25 know what he said about Chicago deep
1:10:27 dish pizza? He said it's a mental
1:10:28 disorder. Oh my god. It's hilarious.
1:10:31 Anyway,
1:10:34 all right. Let's see. Uh
1:10:38 let's see. Yeah, Hawaiian pineapple 55%
1:10:42 plain 11. Pepperoni 11. Deep dish 11.
1:10:46 No, I No, there's only nine votes. It's
1:10:48 not That is not statistically
1:10:50 significant. There There are a few of
1:10:52 you in there trolling me. I can find out
1:10:54 who you are.
1:10:57 That's just rude. That is just rude. How
1:11:00 dare you? How da
1:11:04 Dr. Singularity, the loop is closing.
1:11:08 Um, do me a favor. If you would go to
1:11:11 the Twitter.
1:11:13 Wait, some of your media failed to
1:11:15 upload. What happened?
1:11:18 Oh, is this because it's a [ __ ]
1:11:22 AVIF file or whatever it is? No. Okay,
1:11:26 it's posted now.
1:11:32 It's a mental disorder.
1:11:34 I think that's a pretty good I if I
1:11:37 owned a a uh a Chicago restaurant, a
1:11:39 deep dish restaurant, that I would run
1:11:41 that ad.
1:11:43 All right. As a deep dish lover, I
1:11:45 abstain from endorsing your zeit. Oh,
1:11:47 come on. Come on. You You got to admit,
1:11:50 even as a deep dish lover, that's that's
1:11:52 a that's a pretty classic ad.
1:11:56 All right, let's go look at uh we're
1:11:57 going to go look at Twitter now. We're
1:11:59 going to go look at news. I can't I
1:12:02 can't be I I don't know what's going on
1:12:04 with me. I don't want to do anything.
1:12:06 I'm I'm I am I I am a conscientious
1:12:09 objector right now.
1:12:16 Can we get in trouble then? Yes.
1:12:19 I I will uh there there will be
1:12:22 punishments.
1:12:25 It's for research. Jason, the crust is
1:12:28 almost 99% of the time undercooked and
1:12:31 the cheese is globby.
1:12:37 Jason's gonna piss in everyone else's
1:12:39 pizza. Okay. AI pricing dropped 150x in
1:12:42 three years. Open AAI just tripled their
1:12:45 cheapest model. The subsidy phase is
1:12:47 over. I think that's right. I think AI
1:12:49 is going to start getting expensive now.
1:12:57 A break runway a breakthrough in real
1:13:00 time video generation. As a research
1:13:02 preview developed with Nvidia and shared
1:13:05 this week, we trained a new realtime
1:13:08 video model running on Vera Rubin. HD
1:13:11 videos generate instantly
1:13:15 with time to first frame in under a 100
1:13:17 milliseconds,
1:13:19 unlocking entirely new creative
1:13:21 paradigm,
1:13:23 bolstering foundations for a general
1:13:25 world model.
1:13:27 Real-time generation opens a
1:13:29 fundamentally different design space for
1:13:31 video models and world simulation. We're
1:13:33 investing in co-designing our models
1:13:35 along with advances in hardware to keep
1:13:37 pushing the frontier.
1:13:42 All right, let me share my sound.
1:13:49 Champ, you just got let back in here.
1:13:52 What are you doing?
1:13:54 They're not going to give you cheese.
1:13:55 Nobody likes you.
1:13:58 Nobody cares.
1:14:00 You want to come over here and lay with
1:14:02 daddy?
1:14:04 Come on, buddy. Come on. No, you're just
1:14:07 going to lay over there and wag your
1:14:08 tail and whimper.
1:14:11 The answer is yes. By the way, that that
1:14:14 is exactly what he's going to do. All
1:14:16 right.
1:14:18 This this is decently significant.
1:14:24 We'll talk about this.
1:14:28 AI video generation changes how scenes
1:14:31 are created and directed, but can't
1:14:34 scale at the speed AI simulation and
1:14:37 creator workflows require. Just 3 months
1:14:40 ago, Runway's Gen 4.5 generated scenes
1:14:43 in minutes. Now, their new model,
1:14:46 accelerated by Vera Rubin, generates
1:14:48 them instantly.
1:14:51 That speed changes everything. Instead
1:14:55 of waiting for a render, scenes can be
1:14:57 directed while they are generated.
1:15:00 With just a simple prompt, new frames
1:15:02 appear.
1:15:04 When new direction is given, the scene
1:15:06 updates again in real time.
1:15:18 >> Video generation becomes a live creative
1:15:21 loop.
1:15:23 >> Yep. AI video generation.
1:15:25 >> All right, that's a big deal. Now, right
1:15:28 now, it requires a Reuben to run. So,
1:15:30 the the Verer Reuben is Nvidia's new,
1:15:34 isn't it? A seven chip cluster.
1:15:38 So, they invented seven new chips that
1:15:40 work on a on specialized silicon.
1:15:43 Um, so that's not going to be cheap, but
1:15:48 like all this stuff, it's coming down
1:15:53 incredibly quickly. So,
1:15:56 probably by the end of the year, we'll
1:15:59 have real time HD video generation.
1:16:07 So, imagine
1:16:11 archetypal architect
1:16:14 See, here's the thing, archetypal. You
1:16:17 don't have to admit that. I'm a
1:16:19 vegetarian. Pineapple on my pizza is my
1:16:21 favorite.
1:16:25 You could just
1:16:28 shamefully order it and take it home in
1:16:30 a box
1:16:32 and just eat it in a dark, dirty
1:16:34 kitchen. You know,
1:16:42 now I'm craving a Reuben.
1:16:45 Oh my god, I love a Reuben. I haven't
1:16:47 had a good Reuben in ages. If you go to
1:16:50 um if you go to New York, go to Cats's
1:16:53 Deli. Their Reuben's tasty.
1:16:58 I told you it was hard. I lost it in the
1:17:00 light.
1:17:03 Okay. All right. M I hate it when the
1:17:07 pineapple falls off and lands on my
1:17:09 clothes. I'm like that with the barbecue
1:17:11 chicken. Let's bring back keeping
1:17:13 secrets. Okay.
1:17:16 Breaking a mysterious force just smashed
1:17:18 through the Milky Way without lighter
1:17:20 heat. Okay. Yeah, whatever. They made
1:17:23 that picture up. That's fine.
1:17:26 Oh, did you hear this?
1:17:32 Meta. I I don't know if you know this.
1:17:34 Meta. It used to be called Facebook. And
1:17:37 then Zuck made this bet that if they
1:17:41 spent a couple of billion dollars
1:17:43 developing Second Life, a Second Second
1:17:46 Life, it was Second Second Life 2.0.
1:17:49 That if they developed Second Life 2.0,
1:17:51 but with shittier avatars
1:17:54 that that it was so important that they
1:17:56 changed their name to Meta for the
1:17:57 Metaverse. They just killed the
1:17:59 metaverse. They just killed it. Because
1:18:03 if you look at at the the the the thing
1:18:06 we just looked at the real time video,
1:18:10 we're within a year, year and a half
1:18:12 where you don't have to create worlds.
1:18:16 You can just speak them into existence.
1:18:18 And then we're probably three years away
1:18:20 from not only can can you speak a world
1:18:23 into existence, you can speak a world
1:18:25 into existence that's got a full compute
1:18:27 environment
1:18:30 sitting within it.
1:18:34 So you can create NPCs and games and
1:18:37 data visualizations and surgery
1:18:40 simulations and traffic realtime traffic
1:18:43 games.
1:18:47 So yeah, turn turns out they spent $80
1:18:51 billion dollar building out the
1:18:53 metaverse that no one used.
1:18:56 Crazy. Sam Waltman took 13 billion from
1:18:59 Microsoft.
1:19:03 Let's see.
1:19:05 Auto researching Apple's LL1 of flash.
1:19:12 Oh, by the way,
1:19:14 this is you know how much I've been
1:19:16 bitching about Apple in here.
1:19:23 Apple Apple is is
1:19:27 I think Apple's going to end up being a
1:19:29 very major player in AI
1:19:32 in hardware
1:19:34 because Nvidia is not going to create
1:19:36 consumer hardware. I I just I just don't
1:19:39 think they are. and Apple Apple owns it.
1:19:42 And so I think Apple's going to start
1:19:44 doing incredibly
1:19:46 powerful inference hardware that'll run
1:19:50 any of these models.
1:19:53 The the new uh the new G the new M5
1:19:56 power MacBook Pros
1:19:59 are are pretty incredible machines.
1:20:03 They could have solved world hunger with
1:20:05 that, right? With what?
1:20:09 kind of hoping the phone goes away. Oh,
1:20:11 with $80 billion. Yeah, they could have,
1:20:15 but they got a shitty Second Life 2.0.
1:20:19 Yeah, $80 billion. $80 billion.
1:20:36 Glory, glory, glory.
1:21:11 Most exp most most expensive experiment
1:21:13 in history. Meta spent $80 billion on
1:21:16 the metaverse. It will be shut down in
1:21:18 for good in June. $80 billion just gone.
1:21:23 That's a wild.
1:21:26 That's wild.
1:21:31 Oh yeah, this looks pretty cool.
1:21:34 Reversing memory loss via the vagus
1:21:36 nerve. Basically, as you get older, you
1:21:38 get an increase in this one kind of
1:21:40 bacteria that inflames your vagus nerve.
1:21:44 And so the vagus nerve connects I guess
1:21:46 your gut to your brain, right? And the
1:21:48 vagus nerves vagus nerve goes directly
1:21:50 to the hippocampus, the the memory
1:21:52 center of the brain. And so when it's
1:21:55 inflamed, those signals don't travel as
1:21:57 well and your memory gets worse. So
1:22:00 looks and they just proved this March
1:22:02 14th was when that came out.
1:22:05 New study reverses memory loss by
1:22:07 reactivating the brain gut connection
1:22:10 and achieving a full cognitive reset.
1:22:14 the dog,
1:22:19 Brandon. Yeah. So, that was another
1:22:21 thing. So, the same day I saw this thing
1:22:23 about the brain gut connection with the
1:22:25 Vegas nerve. There's also a guy who's a
1:22:28 non-biologist
1:22:31 who who his dog got cancer, had a big
1:22:34 tumor. He he took a DNA sample from the
1:22:38 tumor
1:22:40 with ChachiBT
1:22:43 um Gemini and Grock. I think Grock did
1:22:46 the final thing. He taught himself how
1:22:49 to use Google's Alphafold and
1:22:53 probably something else and probably
1:22:55 Crisper.
1:22:57 And he designed his own mRNA vaccine for
1:23:01 his dog's tumor.
1:23:04 And the dog's tumor has shrunk. And
1:23:09 so like
1:23:11 garage dudes are now curing cancer.
1:23:15 My god, really?
1:23:22 Wait, brain photo modulation. Start
1:23:25 investing in brain photo modulation
1:23:27 therapies. Is that like the blinky
1:23:29 lights? So in the 90s in New York City,
1:23:31 there was this thing called
1:23:35 neuro neuros neurosynchronicity.
1:23:39 I forget the name of this. It was they
1:23:41 had they had stores like spas and you'd
1:23:44 go in and they'd give you these goggles
1:23:46 and they would they would flash lights
1:23:48 in your eyes and you would hallucinate
1:23:50 that [ __ ] Is that what you're talking
1:23:52 about?
1:23:54 It was cool.
1:23:58 But I'm wellelmed. Wellelmed? How is it
1:24:01 possible? Well came up twice in in two
1:24:04 days. It's not possible. We're in a
1:24:07 weird [ __ ] simulation, people.
1:24:13 Yes, they actually worked. But it's Oh,
1:24:15 this is transcranial. Oh, cool. They do.
1:24:18 I can't understand why they have an
1:24:20 audience.
1:24:24 That's super cool. Okay, let's see what
1:24:26 else we got here.
1:24:32 just what I'm a AI Andrew Chen.
1:24:41 He's basically saying I'm in front of
1:24:43 the computer more because of AI. Well,
1:24:45 yeah, you're human and you get dopamine
1:24:48 hits from making all the cool [ __ ] Why
1:24:49 wouldn't you be in front of the computer
1:24:51 more, you big dumb dumb? That's why you
1:24:53 need to buy juggling balls.
1:24:58 Um, why software won't become disposable
1:25:01 despite the rise of egentic AI agents.
1:25:12 Scientists have spotted particles in
1:25:14 another dimension.
1:25:17 Come on, stop.
1:25:20 AI just ruined the careers of so many
1:25:22 people.
1:25:24 The machine payments protocol. Who did
1:25:26 this? Stripe. We're launching the
1:25:28 machine payments protocol. An
1:25:30 openstandard internet native way for
1:25:32 agents to pay.
1:25:38 That seems like a big [ __ ] deal,
1:25:41 don't it?
1:25:43 We're launching machine payments
1:25:44 protocol, an open standard internet
1:25:48 native way for agents to pay,
1:25:50 co-authored by Tempo and Stripe. MPPP
1:25:53 provides a specification for agents and
1:25:55 services to coordinate payments
1:25:57 programmatically, enabling
1:25:58 microtransactions, recurring payments,
1:26:00 and more. Stripe users can accept
1:26:02 payments over MPP in a few lines of code
1:26:06 using our payment intents API.
1:26:11 Businesses then accept payments directly
1:26:13 from agents in stable coins as well as
1:26:16 fiat with cards
1:26:19 and buy now pay later methods.
1:26:22 via shared payment tokens.
1:26:26 Wow,
1:26:28 that's a big deal,
1:26:32 right? If you want your agents to do
1:26:33 [ __ ] in the world, they got to be able
1:26:35 to interact with the world.
1:26:46 Cute.
1:27:35 Hey, look. There's there's my my Chicago
1:27:38 deep dish ad.
1:27:44 If you're joining us, welcome to the AI
1:27:46 bubble. I I hate to break it to you
1:27:49 people saying the AI bubble's about to
1:27:51 burst.
1:27:52 The bubble hasn't even started inflating
1:27:54 yet.
1:27:56 Hey, Kyle.
1:27:58 >> Yeah.
1:27:59 >> Um, if you go back out of this post and
1:28:01 scroll up just a smidge,
1:28:03 >> you noticed that it flagged your um
1:28:06 image as made with AI.
1:28:08 >> Oh, yeah. Look at that. That's
1:28:10 hilarious.
1:28:18 Got busted
1:28:20 putting AI slop out on the internet.
1:28:39 Tik Tok pin.
1:28:42 I barely have enough of my own currency
1:28:43 to spend. Now I have to budget for an AI
1:28:46 bot. You do. But if you if you do your
1:28:48 AI bot right and you can have it start a
1:28:50 business or two, then maybe I can make
1:28:51 some money. Make some money. Money
1:28:57 Miniax came out with a new model today
1:28:59 that you can go run OpenC Claw on there.
1:29:02 You just go there and it's I think it's
1:29:04 60 bucks a month.
1:29:06 Oh, this is good. Holy [ __ ] The new
1:29:10 Google Stitch is scary. Oh, that's what
1:29:12 I wanted to look at. Is that live yet?
1:29:15 Google Stitch
1:29:19 or No. Labs.google.com, right? Dropped
1:29:22 today. But is it live? I know it dropped
1:29:25 today, but Google does this all the
1:29:26 time. We're We're announcing this new
1:29:29 thing and then sometimes it never shows
1:29:30 up at all. Stitch, try it now. There you
1:29:33 go. All right, we're doing something. I
1:29:36 guess I got to share my tab. You all are
1:29:39 so selfish. All right, try now. Don't I
1:29:42 have to sign in? I'm signed in.
1:29:48 Welcome to Stitch.
1:29:56 Why can I not zoom in on that?
1:29:59 Sons of [ __ ]
1:30:10 app. All right. uh make me an interface
1:30:17 for a
1:30:19 an app called I just want
1:30:24 to talk
1:30:28 where
1:30:31 talkers
1:30:34 engage with listeners.
1:30:44 Um
1:30:48 and the platform
1:30:52 I don't know
1:30:55 let's see charges
1:30:58 per things for you before you press
1:31:01 enter.
1:31:02 >> Okay. block.
1:31:05 Um
1:31:08 uh it should be uber like slash
1:31:15 um
1:31:18 uh
1:31:21 swipe right like
1:31:25 uh hang on a sec. The word you're
1:31:27 looking for
1:31:27 >> which one?
1:31:29 >> Tinder.
1:31:30 >> Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly.
1:31:32 uh swipe right like let's see uh uh with
1:31:38 clear
1:31:40 ratings
1:31:42 and some
1:31:44 listeners can use pics but
1:31:50 others can be anonymous.
1:31:54 Okay. Oh [ __ ] I hit enter. You told me
1:31:57 not to do that.
1:32:00 >> I can start over.
1:32:02 No, that's okay. I just wanted to call
1:32:03 out um at the bottom next to the model
1:32:07 picker, you do have a pallet picker,
1:32:09 which is one of the new features. So,
1:32:11 just of
1:32:13 >> box um you can um once it actually
1:32:18 >> Oh, yeah. Look at that.
1:32:20 >> Primary secondary.
1:32:24 That's pretty slick.
1:32:34 And then they also released a video uh
1:32:36 that was linked, but it's on Twitter if
1:32:38 you wanted to see it while it's
1:32:39 building.
1:32:42 Wait, here we got we've got designs
1:32:43 coming in, kids.
1:32:47 This looks pretty damn good. And I'll
1:32:49 tell you what, you know what, Brandon,
1:32:51 producer Brandon, you don't have to be
1:32:52 up here for this. I can just say it. Um,
1:32:56 the vibe coding that's coming out
1:32:58 tomorrow, I would imagine that this and
1:33:01 that are going to start talking to one
1:33:02 another. So, you can come in here and do
1:33:05 your
1:33:06 your design stuff, right?
1:33:12 Compassionate listeners are here to here
1:33:15 to
1:33:17 hear you.
1:33:26 Oh, you know what would be cool
1:33:30 and I just want to talk.com?
1:33:34 These screens are too long, aren't they?
1:33:36 I guess not because they'll scroll.
1:33:40 Um,
1:33:41 what would be cool is you could you
1:33:43 could sign up to be a listener
1:33:50 and make money, but you could also say,
1:33:52 "I'm willing to listen for free."
1:33:56 And if you're willing to listen for
1:33:58 free, it only costs the talker,
1:34:01 I don't know, half as much,
1:34:06 but the proceeds go to some nonprofit or
1:34:09 something. Tik Tok pin. I'm teaching on
1:34:12 vibe coding in my LOL this weekend. Oh,
1:34:15 I know. That's that's going to be so
1:34:17 cool. Hey, what tool did you use?
1:34:18 Because I started today I started making
1:34:21 this app today and I thought I thought
1:34:24 it might be fun. I think I did it in it
1:34:27 begins with an E.
1:34:29 What's that one called? What's that one?
1:34:31 The vibe coding one that begins with an
1:34:33 E.
1:34:35 Brandon's got to know that.
1:34:43 Yeah. This Saturday. Yeah. Emergent.
1:34:45 That's it.sh.
1:34:54 Is this it? Continue with Google.
1:35:01 Continue.
1:35:15 Recent tasks.
1:35:22 Listener ready. Here we go. Preview
1:35:26 and pause. Wake up the agent.
1:35:29 Agent finished.
1:35:33 Testing. 100% pass rate.
1:35:36 Audio call UI is fully functional.
1:35:40 Actual voice streaming is simulated in
1:35:42 the web preview.
1:35:45 >> Are you in a different tab?
1:35:47 >> Oh, yeah, I am. Why?
1:35:54 Your words weren't matching the
1:35:55 pictures.
1:36:00 Previewing paused.
1:36:07 AI matching. Gemini Gemini 3 Flash ranks
1:36:09 listeners by fit score. Please wait.
1:36:13 Your app is brewing.
1:36:18 I just want to talk. Welcome back.
1:36:20 Continue with Google.
1:36:23 Log in.
1:36:25 Continue with Google.
1:36:31 Continue. Is that going to take me back
1:36:33 to that tab? Do they really have their
1:36:35 [ __ ] together? No, not quite.
1:36:43 Uncut error.
1:36:45 Minimize.
1:36:48 signing you in.
1:37:22 Sign up.
1:37:29 Email's already registered. Oh, because
1:37:31 I registered it with Google
1:37:40 again.
1:37:59 I want to talk. I'm going to listen. Be
1:38:00 there for someone. I want to talk and
1:38:03 listen. Let's go. I want to listen.
1:38:07 Continue.
1:38:09 Work, stress, life transitions, anxiety,
1:38:13 self-discover, mindfulness, creativity.
1:38:15 I'll go creativity.
1:38:18 I'll go late night overthinking. That's
1:38:21 pretty cool. I'll go
1:38:25 anxiety.
1:38:28 I'll go self-discovery. I'll go those
1:38:30 three. All right.
1:38:32 >> Your tab management is giving me
1:38:34 anxiety.
1:38:36 >> Oh,
1:38:38 it should be.
1:38:40 I'm very unprofessional tonight.
1:38:56 All right, let's see. Calm and grounded,
1:38:58 energetic, and warm. I'm going to go
1:39:00 with energetic and warm. Oh, I like
1:39:01 these categories. This is cool.
1:39:05 Talk now. Talk with someone right away.
1:39:09 Let's go.
1:39:14 Hey Kyle, just so you know, we're seeing
1:39:16 a bunch of stuff on your desktop,
1:39:18 including something from the post
1:39:20 office.
1:39:21 >> Oh, yeah.
1:39:24 All right. Hang on.
1:39:27 Thank you.
1:39:34 No upcoming conversations.
1:39:40 Boom.
1:39:43 >> Just because we kind of got confused in
1:39:46 the
1:39:47 tab switching. Is this a byproduct of
1:39:50 stitch or of emergent?
1:39:53 >> No, this is emergent.
1:39:55 This is um I took the the other night I
1:39:59 came up with that idea of I just want to
1:40:01 talk.com
1:40:03 and so I went to chatbt today and had it
1:40:05 write a software spec and and threw it
1:40:07 into emergent. What did Mimi, are you
1:40:10 still there? Side hustle, what what
1:40:12 platform did you use to make your iOS
1:40:14 app? And by the way, how's it going? Is
1:40:17 it out there in the world?
1:40:29 Used wind surf. Did you like it?
1:40:36 Wind surf and Xcode.
1:40:43 You love it, huh?
1:40:46 And how big's the learning curve on it?
1:40:59 Oh no.
1:41:11 It's not so bad. I built a platform in a
1:41:13 week. Huh. She needs a mic.
1:41:20 Um,
1:41:26 I don't like the color palette, but
1:41:28 that's okay. All right. Well, I have a
1:41:32 semifunctional app
1:41:35 beginning.
1:41:37 It might even be functional. We could do
1:41:40 testing with it. So, the the idea of
1:41:43 this is um you just talk to strangers.
1:41:47 It's like a voice. It's like a voice
1:41:49 app. I just want to talk. So, you can be
1:41:51 a talker or a listener.
1:41:53 Um, all right. Let me let me scadaddle
1:41:57 on out of here.
1:41:59 Let me scattle. All right. Fantastic,
1:42:02 Bob. All right, Bob. So, uh,
1:42:08 no, today's Wednesday. Oh, no, you're
1:42:11 right. That's correct. So, tomorrow, if
1:42:14 you're in the AI salon mastermind,
1:42:17 tomorrow is the practice lab. Uh, and,
1:42:20 uh, it's at 11:00 a.m. Mountain time.
1:42:22 So, 10:00 a.m. on the West Coast, 100
1:42:26 p.m. on the East Coast. Chicago, you're
1:42:28 on your own. You're on your own with
1:42:30 whatever you call pizza, and you're on
1:42:32 with your own with figuring out the time
1:42:34 zone. You can't be bothered.
1:42:37 It's exhausting. It's like a whole
1:42:39 different hour. Some sometimes you do
1:42:42 daylight saving time, sometimes you
1:42:44 don't. I don't understand it. I won't be
1:42:46 there, Kyle. Client meeting. Okay,
1:42:48 that's too bad. But enjoy your client
1:42:50 meeting.
1:42:53 It's everything we were told not to do.
1:42:54 Don't go on the internet and don't talk
1:42:56 to strangers. Exactly. That's what this
1:42:58 app is. This this this app, I just want
1:43:01 to talk.com.
1:43:08 Oh my god, it's hilarious. It's
1:43:10 hilarious. I tell you, it's hilarious.
1:43:14 Fantastic. What do you have against
1:43:15 Central time? Cam Ken from Cleveland
1:43:18 coming in hard. But here's what I
1:43:19 learned about Cleveland. Cleveland, as
1:43:22 far west as you think that godforsaken
1:43:25 place is,
1:43:27 it's still in the Eastern time zone.
1:43:30 It's barely east. It's barely east.
1:43:35 And we get meteors. We get meteors now.
1:43:40 I've been staying awake to the end all
1:43:42 week. Must be daylight savings time.
1:43:44 Sorry, Todd. I listen. I do my best to
1:43:47 put everyone asleep. This week in
1:43:49 particular has been a it's been a doozy
1:43:51 in terms of uh nonintillating content as
1:43:55 they say, but whatever. Um I appreciate
1:43:58 you all being here. I'm going to take
1:43:59 off. Uh if you haven't joined the
1:44:01 mastermind yet, go to
1:44:02 community.thesalon.ai.
1:44:06 Join the community. Join the mastermind
1:44:09 and uh come hang out with us and create
1:44:11 your daily practice. Um intentionality
1:44:14 and mindfulness. It's a big thing. It's
1:44:16 important.
1:44:18 It should be called Mid East
1:44:20 representing the great state of Ohio.
1:44:26 All right, man. Cool. You all have a
1:44:28 fantastic night. I appreciate you being
1:44:31 here. Bye.
1:44:34 Okay.